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Speaker 2: Ladies, how are we feeling now that it's been forty
Speaker 2: eight hours to officially absorb everything San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Just breathe on it. We're getting ready to turn the page.
Speaker 3: Here on the podcast will be the last day we
Speaker 3: really talk about it in depth.
Speaker 2: I know Ayisha is screaming to be done with this conversation.
Speaker 2: She's blinking, blink twice. If you need help, there we go,
Speaker 2: Oh there, there it is.
Speaker 3: She's played three times.
Speaker 2: Oh man, So we're gonna we're gonna get more into
Speaker 2: that discussion today. I usuall went back and watch some film.
Speaker 2: The ladies here got to talk to some of the
Speaker 2: rookie class today. I'll let you guys talk about that
Speaker 2: event as well, and we'll just get into more discussion
Speaker 2: that we didn't get into today. Let's start with the
Speaker 2: event that happened today and the importance of that.
Speaker 3: Ladies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, World Mental Health Day couldn't have come at a
Speaker 4: better time after this San Francisco game. But it's awesome
Speaker 4: because the Rookie Club, presented by Blockchain, they do so
Speaker 4: many events throughout the year, and this year's rookie class
Speaker 4: and Nicole, you got to see him in action today
Speaker 4: just so outstanding. And so we had an event here
Speaker 4: at the Star where Bessie Coleman Middle School drove up
Speaker 4: from Cedar Hill, which is just south of Dallas, and
Speaker 4: we were on the out to our practice field and
Speaker 4: Trisha from Cowboys Fit, one of our yoga instructors at
Speaker 4: Cowboys Fit, led a thirty minute yoga session for all
Speaker 4: the kids and the Rookie Club was out there taking
Speaker 4: part in that. And then a character playbook, which is
Speaker 4: something that our community relations for the Cowboys in the
Speaker 4: NFL have focused on for many years. Our friends at
Speaker 4: EverFi help with that. And so to see those cowboys
Speaker 4: rookies that the kids were broken up into groups of four,
Speaker 4: and so we had four cowboys rookies with each of
Speaker 4: those groups, and they talked about some really important topics.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, of course the topic of the day
Speaker 5: mental health awareness. And like I mentioned in my story,
Speaker 5: that'll be airing on Specialization this week.
Speaker 6: Hey guys, may shu tun.
Speaker 7: But no, it's just Dak Prescott really started.
Speaker 5: To lead the way with this whole mental health awareness
Speaker 5: around the NFL, kind of leading the charge a couple
Speaker 5: of years ago. And so just to see so many
Speaker 5: guys really taking thinking about that just.
Speaker 6: Being sold important and you see.
Speaker 5: A lot of professional athletes really taking care of their
Speaker 5: mental health. I talked to Deuce today, talk to Luke
Speaker 5: and just ask them, you know, like what are why
Speaker 5: is it so important to take care of your mental health?
Speaker 5: And they're like, man, we do so much, you know,
Speaker 5: like it's just good to just you know, take a
Speaker 5: deep breath. Do said that, you know, for him to
Speaker 5: kind of like ease up and like kind of take
Speaker 5: a break from football. Sometimes he likes to read books,
Speaker 5: and then Luke said he likes to you know, his
Speaker 5: religion is really important to him. He also kind of
Speaker 5: mentioned to me that music is a thing as well
Speaker 5: for him to kind of give him a peace of mind.
Speaker 6: So just love.
Speaker 5: I love how like a lot of athletes use different
Speaker 5: avenues to kind of take care of their mental health.
Speaker 4: So that was that was It was a really cool
Speaker 4: eff Yeah, and the kids got to take the yoga
Speaker 4: mats home with them and and for a lot of
Speaker 4: them it's the first time they'd had, you know, real
Speaker 4: yoga instructor instruction from a real professional instructor. And then
Speaker 4: Raising Kanes provided lunch and Darry Max the smoothies, and
Speaker 4: so yeah, yeah, it was really an awesome day.
Speaker 6: And it's it's so nice of that Rookie.
Speaker 4: Club Tuesdays are the players stay off, and yet they're
Speaker 4: here on a Tuesday morning spending time with those middle
Speaker 4: school kids who just had a wonderful, wonderful day.
Speaker 6: So it was it was a day well spent for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we got to see some of the girls like stroll too,
Speaker 6: some of the yea, we had the dance the dance
Speaker 6: group and the cheer team. Yeah cool.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean in regard to the mental health
Speaker 8: side of things, definitely, I can say as as a veteran,
Speaker 8: I've even had to up my just my responsibility to
Speaker 8: myself to check in and to make sure I'm taking
Speaker 8: care of myself. So even though we're talking about the players,
Speaker 8: everyone out there, you know, this day is for you too.
Speaker 8: Know that you're you're needed, that people love you, that
Speaker 8: you're cared about, and just keep that in mind, and
Speaker 8: it's okay to ask for help. Absolutely, And that's that's
Speaker 8: Dak's slogan obviously as well. So that's something that I
Speaker 8: carry and I take very seriously as well.
Speaker 4: And I'm glad you mentioned military background. Another event this afternoon,
Speaker 4: the Langford family, James Langford and his wife Maya and
Speaker 4: their two young boys came up and it was an
Speaker 4: event for Sleep Number and so they knew that they
Speaker 4: were coming for a VIP tour of the Star. So
Speaker 4: I'm taking them on a tour of the Star, but
Speaker 4: they don't know that Tony Pollard is waiting for him,
Speaker 4: and that's why say this is yeah so Tony, yeah, Tony.
Speaker 4: So then we kind of finished the tour and then
Speaker 4: they win some tickets to a game, our salute to
Speaker 4: service game from Sleep Number and lots of goodies and
Speaker 4: jerseys and stuff. And so their little boys are out
Speaker 4: there running around on the field with Tony handing them the.
Speaker 6: Ball and stuff like that. So just a wonderful day.
Speaker 4: And so the Cowboys and Sleep Number and Tony Pollard
Speaker 4: with our own early salute to service with the Langford
Speaker 4: family that came up from Houston.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 2: And I feel like for those guys, especially after the
Speaker 2: heaviness from this weekend, it's a good way to start
Speaker 2: to turn the page.
Speaker 3: He can probably refresh and just remind themselves, you know,
Speaker 3: their why you know.
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of the guys you talked
Speaker 2: to in the locker room talk about when you start
Speaker 2: getting into conversation with them about how they take their
Speaker 2: at very serious. And uh, someone that I talked to
Speaker 2: a lot about this is Michael Gallup and saying I
Speaker 2: want to be an example for young kids that look
Speaker 2: up at me at the stadium and say, hey, I
Speaker 2: want to do that. One day, he said, if I
Speaker 2: can do that for one kid in that entire stadium,
Speaker 2: I did something right in my job that day. So
Speaker 2: for the rookies to get a taste of your fishy
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboy, this is the weight that you hold, and
Speaker 2: especially after that loss, I think it's a really good
Speaker 2: weight for them to turn the page. And then it explains.
Speaker 2: I walked in Tony Pollard's and in the lobby, I
Speaker 2: was like, what.
Speaker 3: Are you doing out here?
Speaker 6: His crocks?
Speaker 2: He was sporting those crocks in sport mode and he
Speaker 2: should have seen James's face.
Speaker 6: It was so cool. It was a great surprise.
Speaker 3: So that is awesome. What just glaze over that?
Speaker 8: Sorry, no shade.
Speaker 3: I love crocs. I've never had a pair of crocs.
Speaker 2: Guys, we're going to change that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy you your first hair cross.
Speaker 6: I've just never thought I was wearing crocs.
Speaker 3: All right, I just got to chang.
Speaker 7: They're convenient and comfortable. I don't got one on.
Speaker 3: Crocks right now.
Speaker 2: Tony Pollards wearing crocs upstairs. Anyways, before we get too
Speaker 2: off topic, let's transition from there. Let's use Tony Pollard
Speaker 2: is a good starting point with the Dallas Cowboys offense.
Speaker 2: Let's get back into some conversation post game post loss
Speaker 2: to the San Francisco forty nine ers. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: The run game in in this game obviously not as
Speaker 2: much of a factor as they would have liked it
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 3: Fifty seven total yards.
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard had eight touches on the ball for twenty
Speaker 2: nine yards. He averaged three point six yards per carry.
Speaker 2: Ric o'dowdell he had five attempts for fifteen yards, averaging
Speaker 2: three yards per carry. There his longest run was eight yards.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about why this run game wasn't established.
Speaker 2: Let's start there and then we'll work our way around
Speaker 2: us show when you went back, if you watched this
Speaker 2: game four times, ladies and gents, that's how dedicated she
Speaker 2: is to this podcast, four times four.
Speaker 3: I couldn't even watch it once. What did you notice
Speaker 3: about the lack of run game?
Speaker 2: Why was it not able to get established early on
Speaker 2: and going forward?
Speaker 3: How can they fix that to get that rhythm going
Speaker 3: a little bit quicker?
Speaker 7: Well, a couple of things.
Speaker 8: When they when the offense deferred, when they deferred and
Speaker 8: they allowed, you know, they decided to go out there
Speaker 8: and let the defense play first. I really thought that
Speaker 8: the offense expected things to kind of go in their
Speaker 8: favor with the defense being out there and everything from there.
Speaker 8: I think Brian Scheinenharmer mentioned that there they never found
Speaker 8: a rhythm yep. And but part of the reason why
Speaker 8: they never found a rhythm is because they went I
Speaker 8: felt like they went away from the run extremely quickly.
Speaker 8: And I also to you know, just looking at TP
Speaker 8: and looking at Rico, I personally thought that Rico was
Speaker 8: really when you play a defense that's that physical and
Speaker 8: it's that downhill, you got to counter that. And I
Speaker 8: felt as though Rigo could have countered some of that
Speaker 8: a little bit more also too. I mean, some of
Speaker 8: the things we talked about on this show that we
Speaker 8: felt like could work up against this forty nine Ers
Speaker 8: team motion screens we only saw one in that game
Speaker 8: and it was successful. That type of stuff we didn't
Speaker 8: really see in this game, and so it was just
Speaker 8: to me it was very discombobulated from the start offensively,
Speaker 8: and going away from the run game as early as
Speaker 8: they did.
Speaker 7: I don't think it played.
Speaker 8: It played into the forty nine Ers hands with how
Speaker 8: they liked to play defense. Would have really liked to
Speaker 8: see Totly, Pollard and Rico get more involved and maybe
Speaker 8: not just running up the middle, maybe not just doing
Speaker 8: those things, but doing some things, attacking the edges and
Speaker 8: taking it to those guys. I was disappointed in it.
Speaker 8: If I'm not mistaken. They ran the ball like two
Speaker 8: three times in the first half alone, Holy heck.
Speaker 7: And we looked at.
Speaker 8: The time of possession and also too, Schottenheimer mentioned that's
Speaker 8: the reason why, you know, usage was kind of scattered.
Speaker 8: But even so, you run the ball to sustain, sustain
Speaker 8: drives and to play off the play action, and there
Speaker 8: was just none of that yesterday, well Sunday at this point.
Speaker 8: So that's to me what I saw in the run game.
Speaker 5: I would agree with that. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 5: they just didn't trust it either. You know, I guess
Speaker 5: when it you're getting punched in the mouth like that
Speaker 5: early on, and then you kind of you have to
Speaker 5: still trust the game plan. You've got to still try
Speaker 5: to establish that run. And I feel like that's where
Speaker 5: the success came from in the first half of the season,
Speaker 5: the first couple of games.
Speaker 7: And yeah, I'm just going with you.
Speaker 5: I think I would have liked them to get you know,
Speaker 5: a lot of those guys involved, like Rico and Tony,
Speaker 5: maybe a little bit of Deuce and Hunter maybe kind
Speaker 5: of rotate them in you know, yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 5: can't go away from the game plan that early.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then in the second half when the score
Speaker 4: starting to get away from you, then you know you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to air it out some more so so
Speaker 4: falling behind the way they did early, but especially in
Speaker 4: the second half when the game was starting to really
Speaker 4: get away from them, and as just says, you got
Speaker 4: to go for the past. One thing that Mike said
Speaker 4: Monday afternoon that kind of pricked my ears up a
Speaker 4: little bit was he was saying, because you know, he
Speaker 4: was asked about, hey, you had your starting five offensive
Speaker 4: lineman back, and you're still not really able to run.
Speaker 4: And he didn't use this phrase, but time on task.
Speaker 4: It is important for these guys to work together, and
Speaker 4: so he said that moving forward that he expects Tyron
Speaker 4: and Tyler on the left side of the offensive line
Speaker 4: being together as left tackle and left guard, to have
Speaker 4: those combo blocks working better together. Right, But again, that's
Speaker 4: kind of a time on task thing, and they had
Speaker 4: really only had a couple of practices together. So that's
Speaker 4: something that we can look forward to moving on. But
Speaker 4: you're right, you know, would have loved to see more
Speaker 4: screen passers. We saw some great screen passes, but unfortunately
Speaker 4: it was mostly McCaffrey and the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, And I think as far as not
Speaker 2: using dues or Hunter, that might be some things that
Speaker 2: they're trying to use more in the red zone. The
Speaker 2: Cowboys didn't make it to the red zone to be
Speaker 2: able to show that off right, And we've talked about
Speaker 2: before this game how Mike McCarthy hasn't had to show
Speaker 2: his full hand yet at his play calling.
Speaker 3: You haven't really seen.
Speaker 2: What those special packages can be for Deuce or Hunter
Speaker 2: really yet, because one, they're still trying to establish what's
Speaker 2: going on in the red zone, who the red zone
Speaker 2: guy is.
Speaker 3: They don't have that rushing threat in the red zone
Speaker 3: like they used to with Zeke, so establishing.
Speaker 2: That is still something that's in the works. But yeah, overall,
Speaker 2: CHRISTI to your point about the offensive line. I wanted
Speaker 2: to mention this tweet that John Owning tweeted earlier about
Speaker 2: Tyler Smith, and I think it's very important to note
Speaker 2: Tyler Smith is currently PFF's highest graded run blocker among
Speaker 2: inside O linemen ninety one point nine. He is also
Speaker 2: the only player to have grades above eighty for both
Speaker 2: zone and gap runs.
Speaker 3: So kudos to Tyler Smith there.
Speaker 2: I know, I know it is all about that, but
Speaker 2: I think that's a second year jump that we don't
Speaker 2: talk enough about just anywhere. I think the amount of
Speaker 2: work that Tyler Smith has done in the year that
Speaker 2: he has been here, you know, his rookie year to
Speaker 2: now that second your jump is important and he's a
Speaker 2: leaping He's not just jumping, he is a leaping.
Speaker 4: Well, remember he got thrown in at left tackle his
Speaker 4: rookie year. He goes through all the off season at guard,
Speaker 4: and then Tyron Smith gets hurt right at the end
Speaker 4: of training camp and hey, you're in the starting lineup
Speaker 4: as we expected. Oh but you're on the blind side
Speaker 4: at left tackle instead of left guard. So man, just
Speaker 4: but now to just leave him at left guard and just.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: It's what Schottenheimer, I think was actually the previous week,
Speaker 4: said he's just going to be a stud in this
Speaker 4: league for years to come.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And to kind of piggyback off the fact that,
Speaker 8: like how good Tyler is playing, there were times in
Speaker 8: this game where there were lanes open that you know,
Speaker 8: TP took a different angle or he took a different
Speaker 8: lane and so also to those those are things that
Speaker 8: you look at on tape and you say, Okay, how
Speaker 8: do we improve from there?
Speaker 7: How can we go forward from there?
Speaker 8: Because you, I mean, this offensive line to your point,
Speaker 8: is still trying to, you know, find some cohesiveness. Really
Speaker 8: looking for them to continue to improve in the passing
Speaker 8: game as well, because there were plenty of times sometimes
Speaker 8: that DAK was under fire, some pressure coming from the edges.
Speaker 7: Really need those guys to pick up some of those
Speaker 7: blitzes and be physical as well.
Speaker 8: So movement, but the run the run scheme, I think
Speaker 8: there were opportunities there this game and they didn't take them.
Speaker 8: But I also would have liked for them to take
Speaker 8: other avenues to run the ball if running the way
Speaker 8: they were running wasn't working.
Speaker 2: And that's a perfect transition to the passing game. Ladies,
Speaker 2: Let's open up that conversation for a little bit, because again,
Speaker 2: the passing game was kind of forced at that point, Christie,
Speaker 2: like you had mentioned, after the run was not established
Speaker 2: in receiving yard. Let's see, there was one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty one total CD Lamb had five targets. He got
Speaker 2: the ball four times their forty nine yards averaging twelve
Speaker 2: point three yards per carry. And then Tony Pollard actually
Speaker 2: ranked second in receiving for the Cowboys in this game,
Speaker 2: same amount of targets and receptions as CD for thirty
Speaker 2: five yards. They are Jake Ferguson three receptions twenty eight yards.
Speaker 3: Overall, Let's get into the Ceedee.
Speaker 2: Lamb conversation because I feel like that's a big topic
Speaker 2: of conversation right now, of.
Speaker 3: Not getting him the ball enough. Nicole.
Speaker 2: When we were in the press conference yesterday with Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 2: he was asked about this, and he said, nobody wants
Speaker 2: to have Nobody wants CD.
Speaker 3: To have the ball more than me. How do you
Speaker 3: get him the ball more in these games?
Speaker 2: Because when you look at the totals right now, you
Speaker 2: look at the receiving totals so far in the last
Speaker 2: five games, CD's in the lead. He has the most targets,
Speaker 2: the most receptions. He has three hundred and fifty eight yards,
Speaker 2: but thirteen of those thirty five or excuse me, thirteen
Speaker 2: of those receptions.
Speaker 3: Came in Week two. So it's just not being distributed
Speaker 3: enough throughout games. How do you fix that?
Speaker 6: It's easy.
Speaker 5: You simply get that run game going to open up
Speaker 5: that passing game. I mean, there's no reason why. And
Speaker 5: his exact words were, if he doesn't pitched off about
Speaker 5: not getting the ball, you know, I'm pissed off that
Speaker 5: he's not pissed off about getting you know, us not
Speaker 5: getting him the ball.
Speaker 7: And so I think they.
Speaker 5: Want to try to find more ways to get him
Speaker 5: the ball. But now it's like you have to just
Speaker 5: establish that run game in order to create opportunities in
Speaker 5: the passing game.
Speaker 6: It's it's just as simple as.
Speaker 4: I was really struck by what seems like the most
Speaker 4: basic question yesterday. I think it was Todd Archer of
Speaker 4: ESPN dot com that asked it of Mike McCarthy, what
Speaker 4: is your offensive identity? And Mike talked about and who
Speaker 4: do you want to be, you know, on offense, and
Speaker 4: Mike talked about knowing you know, he said, this team
Speaker 4: is about defense. So we played to our defense. It's
Speaker 4: the strength of our team. So we can't give the
Speaker 4: ball away, you know, we want to We want to
Speaker 4: possess the ball and have long drives and limit the
Speaker 4: amount of time that our defense has to be on
Speaker 4: the field. And it's something that you know, I mean
Speaker 4: Jason Garret wanted to do the same thing. All teams
Speaker 4: want to do that. Forty nine Ers did it against
Speaker 4: the Cowboys with those long drives and things like that.
Speaker 6: But just thought it was really.
Speaker 4: Interesting where the offensive coach and the offensive play caller
Speaker 4: groos also the head coach comes out and says, we're
Speaker 4: gonna play to our defense.
Speaker 6: So yeah, you don't like that.
Speaker 8: I mean, I like it, but at the same time,
Speaker 8: you got to have a counter for if your defense
Speaker 8: ain't got it that day.
Speaker 7: Ye fair, which is what happened very.
Speaker 8: Exactly in that game, is where they went down and
Speaker 8: scored and then what is your plan after that? And
Speaker 8: for me, in regard to the CD Lamb thing, it's
Speaker 8: just like number one, the guys on the offensive side
Speaker 8: of the ball, they have to finish. And it's not
Speaker 8: just finishing, you know, finishing the play. It's finishing the route,
Speaker 8: rubbing when you're supposed to complete in the play. And
Speaker 8: I also felt like there's a lot of space and.
Speaker 7: Stuff going on.
Speaker 8: It was a lot of two receivers in one space
Speaker 8: and stuff like that where it's like, hey, we got
Speaker 8: to figure out they gotta get on the same page offensively,
Speaker 8: because it does look like there's some confusion going on
Speaker 8: there as well.
Speaker 7: And you mentioned the run game opening up the pass.
Speaker 8: Heck, yeah, it will open up the pass, especially when
Speaker 8: you're not passing out a shotgun all the time. I mean,
Speaker 8: do some things under center, do some of the play
Speaker 8: action things. I personally felt like there was not enough
Speaker 8: schematic stuff to get your guys open. I think Shoddy
Speaker 8: and Muccarthy they mentioned that the Niners played more man
Speaker 8: than what they normally do.
Speaker 7: They did.
Speaker 8: They are typically a zone team. They'll sprinkle in some men,
Speaker 8: but they're typically a zone team.
Speaker 7: They played the Cowboys straight up yesterday, pressed.
Speaker 8: Them at the line of scrimmage, and there wasn't a counter.
Speaker 8: That's the problem, Like that was my problem, is that
Speaker 8: there wasn't a consistent counter to what this defense came
Speaker 8: out and did to you that was different than what
Speaker 8: you planned on. But then also too, these receivers have
Speaker 8: to play through that contact. They have to figure out
Speaker 8: how to fight through that adversity when things don't go
Speaker 8: their way, And so it's a mixed Sure, there's there's
Speaker 8: conversation we had all across the line with the receiving game,
Speaker 8: but I mean it's that was one of the biggest
Speaker 8: things is fighting through the contact, have an a counter
Speaker 8: and figure it out other ways to get you know,
Speaker 8: to get your guys open when they need to be.
Speaker 5: But then when they are open, you have Dak that's
Speaker 5: throwing into double coverage.
Speaker 7: Like you have to make better decisions as a quarterback.
Speaker 5: And that's no shade to Dak, but like you have
Speaker 5: to make better decisions if you have CD, Like CD
Speaker 5: was wide open on maybe there were times, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 5: and so it's like at that point, you just have
Speaker 5: to make better decisions.
Speaker 2: So let's get into that conversation after this next break.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Dak Prescott, maybe the play calling, if
Speaker 2: what the issues are that we can pick out of
Speaker 2: the game. We'll get into some special teams. I know
Speaker 2: Nicole got to talk to Brian Ingery yesterday, so we'll
Speaker 2: get into that, and then of course we're going to
Speaker 2: talk defense.
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Speaker 2: The coot brought up Jack Prescott not making the best
Speaker 2: decisions during this game. I see you were talking about
Speaker 2: Hayde and see the field very well. Christy, you were
Speaker 2: on the sidelines of the game. What did you think
Speaker 2: of Dax's play? What did you notice maybe a difference
Speaker 2: from the first half to the second quarterly?
Speaker 3: I mean, what did you notice from how he was.
Speaker 4: Playing during the well, you know, when the game was
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Speaker 4: having to force it in there.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: So that's not an excuse, it's just a you know,
Speaker 4: facts or facts. Yeah, Uh, that's.
Speaker 6: How it is.
Speaker 4: I would say that in not getting the ball to
Speaker 4: CD or some of the other guys, only I say,
Speaker 4: only twenty six pass attempts. You would think that it
Speaker 4: would be higher, especially when you're falling behind and you know,
Speaker 4: needing to play catch up. And so CD was tied
Speaker 4: with Michael Gallup in terms of the most targets in
Speaker 4: this game with five. Tony Pollard was also targeted with
Speaker 4: five and so.
Speaker 6: And then Cooper.
Speaker 4: Rush had a couple of attempts there late in the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter. But uh, and then you look at brought
Speaker 4: perty stat line and he only had twenty four attempts
Speaker 4: and like a one forty four rating. But what did
Speaker 4: they connect on that? The Cowboys didn't the big plays right,
Speaker 4: those catalytic, those long plays. And so we talked yesterday
Speaker 4: about how there were some shots down the field in
Speaker 4: this game, particularly early couple that didn't connect with Michael
Speaker 4: Gallup or a couple to Brandon Cooks, one of them
Speaker 4: that was the interception later, so they were they were
Speaker 4: trying to get it, but San Francisco connected on theirs
Speaker 4: and Dak and the Cowboys didn't on their own goal.
Speaker 3: And how how do you fix that? What's the solution
Speaker 3: for this?
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing we just talked about, how CD's
Speaker 2: not getting the ball enough. We've been talking about how
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks isn't getting the ball enough. Earlier a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago, we're talking about how Michael Gallup's not getting
Speaker 2: the ball enough. So it seems like a ball distribution
Speaker 2: issue game to game, and given that could change with
Speaker 2: the game plan, right, you're going to see games where
Speaker 2: some guys get the ball more than others.
Speaker 3: But what is your playmaker? You're starting receiver in Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 3: how do you get him more open? What did you
Speaker 3: notice from the film?
Speaker 7: I mean, as far as getting them more open?
Speaker 8: I think I meant it when I said work sometimes, Yeah,
Speaker 8: he was open sometimes. We going back to when Nicole
Speaker 8: said earlier about you know the quarterback. Quarterback got to
Speaker 8: see the feel better also too, he gotta be patient.
Speaker 8: I felt like to your point, Christy, they did take
Speaker 8: some shots, but with what purpose? You know what that
Speaker 8: you're you're this defense is not stupid, you know what
Speaker 8: I'm saying? Like, are you are you setting something up?
Speaker 8: But with the lack of run game, it's hard to
Speaker 8: set up anything deep downfield. And then also to if
Speaker 8: you're passing deep, you're passing out a shotgun every single
Speaker 8: time you're playing. You take when you do that when
Speaker 8: you do so many plays out of shotgun, you take
Speaker 8: away the ambiguity of what you're gonna do if you
Speaker 8: are going to pass the ball off or hand the
Speaker 8: ball off. There they were so much more successful handing
Speaker 8: off the ball out of center and stuff in this game.
Speaker 8: I would like to see some more of that. But
Speaker 8: as far as getting him open, hey man, listen, some days.
Speaker 7: Your guy ain't got it.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 8: I was surprised how tight Oliver played CD Lamb because
Speaker 8: he's he's been had in previous games. But they came up,
Speaker 8: they played pressman and they were winning at the line
Speaker 8: of scrimmage their secondary. So an OC got to say,
Speaker 8: all right, man, they ain't got it. Let me figure
Speaker 8: that out. So I was looking for again the counter,
Speaker 8: but also to your quarterback. Did miss opportunities on this
Speaker 8: field when these guys were open, and it just felt
Speaker 8: like from there it just it kind of shrunk like
Speaker 8: when you miss those, especially against the defense like this,
Speaker 8: if that might slip and fall, you better take it
Speaker 8: to the house. You better take advantage of that because
Speaker 8: they tackle well and they have opportunity. They don't have
Speaker 8: a lot of opportunities. Also, would have liked to see
Speaker 8: more Jay Ferguson, because when you go look back at
Speaker 8: that tape, he was winning that matchup with Frevy Water
Speaker 8: often and that is very difficult to do.
Speaker 7: And so when you talk about ball distribution.
Speaker 8: It's not even just about the wide receivers, it's about
Speaker 8: the titands as well. And Dak missed Schoonmaker earlier in
Speaker 8: that game. Begin that game, you overshot them. You mentioned Nicole,
Speaker 8: you gotta be on the money.
Speaker 7: That could have changed things as well.
Speaker 8: So it's it's the QBC in the field, but also
Speaker 8: being able to say, hey, we ain't got it today.
Speaker 8: Let me do things to scheme my guys open, so
Speaker 8: they're not just looking like they're stuck in mud at
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: Just four targets to tight ends this weekend that it hurts.
Speaker 7: It hurts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm glad you mentioned Oliver, who's their nickelback
Speaker 4: for San Francisco.
Speaker 6: I thought he was one of the unsung heroes of
Speaker 6: that game.
Speaker 3: And sure's the thing.
Speaker 2: I think when you're talking about the Cowboys transforming to
Speaker 2: a more West Coast system, you're not gonna see as
Speaker 2: much tight end usage in the past game as much.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean you don't see it at all.
Speaker 7: You still you should.
Speaker 2: But in the red zone, we haven't had the opportunity
Speaker 2: to see it, and that's where it's the most needed
Speaker 2: right now. You don't even have the chance to see
Speaker 2: what the red zone plan was for the Cowboys this week.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, because I think if you're gonna get
Speaker 2: them involved, you need.
Speaker 3: A guy to fill the Dulton Shultz shoes in the
Speaker 3: red zone. You need a guy to feel dizzy shoes.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you have a group.
Speaker 2: Of very capable tight ends in this game. Jake Ferguson
Speaker 2: can get you that yakyard jack yardage that you need
Speaker 2: in the red zone that you need to get downfielding.
Speaker 3: Games like this, but just wasn't utilized.
Speaker 2: And so for targets two tight ends overall, who was
Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson, Sean McEwan because he was elevated from the
Speaker 2: practice squad, and then Luke scoon Maker.
Speaker 3: It's not acceptable as the play calling.
Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of blame that you
Speaker 2: can give offensively here that needs to get better. And
Speaker 2: like Christy mentioned yesterday, Mike McCarthy said that today is
Speaker 2: another day to go over everything, get the emotions out
Speaker 2: of the game, and then they're going to turn the
Speaker 2: page starting tomorrow. So excited to turn the page. Let's
Speaker 2: turn the page two Special Teams for a second.
Speaker 3: I want to go transition one. Oh nothing, I'm just listening.
Speaker 3: I'm just see she's looking at me.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, No, I was listening now she was, really
Speaker 8: I was are.
Speaker 2: We Bey's the only one here, just like staring at
Speaker 2: me like normal? Na, okay, well I love you, okay, Oh,
Speaker 2: Jazz is staring at me. Great, Okay, Let's transition to
Speaker 2: Special teams. Because here's the thing. Special teams often overlooked
Speaker 2: as a unit that does so much, but it's just
Speaker 2: so underappreciated. Uh and we talk about it all the
Speaker 2: time here on this podcast, but let's talk about it
Speaker 2: because losing CJ. Goodwin potentially for an extended period of time,
Speaker 2: it's and and Cavante Turp and potentially we don't know
Speaker 2: exactly what those injury extends are right now, we don't
Speaker 2: know yet, but let's let's say that both of them
Speaker 2: are out for extended periods of time.
Speaker 3: It's not good.
Speaker 2: It's not good for your Special Teams unit. And it's
Speaker 2: just it makes everybody work a little bit harder and
Speaker 2: in ways that they were already kind of struggling before.
Speaker 3: Nicole.
Speaker 2: You got to sit down with Brian Anger yesterday, an
Speaker 2: unspoken hero of this team, just a veteran leader who's
Speaker 2: such a quiet leader, but such a vital part of
Speaker 2: this special teams unit. I know he's been vital in
Speaker 2: helping Brandon Aubrey ads and he's just a great locker
Speaker 2: room guy overall. We talked about it, Christy and I
Speaker 2: do all the time. What did you get to learn
Speaker 2: from Brian yesterday after the game and some key points
Speaker 2: that you got from him from Cowboys Hour yesterday.
Speaker 5: Well, one funny thing he likes to fish, that's funny.
Speaker 7: But no, he talked about CJ.
Speaker 5: Goodwin and how that loss is going to be really
Speaker 5: huge for them, and I know Brad actually mentioned him
Speaker 5: that someone's gonna his quote was about CJ. That someone's
Speaker 5: gonna realize one day that he could probably be an
Speaker 5: All Pro player, you know, just based off how good
Speaker 5: he is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so, but no, talking.
Speaker 5: With Brian, he basically had said that you know, this
Speaker 5: guy went from playing basketball at like Bethany College. I
Speaker 5: believe it was a smaller school and then he just
Speaker 5: all of a sudden picked up football, you know, ran
Speaker 5: a four, two nine and a forty. He's like, I mean,
Speaker 5: you have to miss a guy like that, especially who's
Speaker 5: produced so much for us on special teams.
Speaker 7: But hey, we've got Jalen.
Speaker 6: Tolbert, you know.
Speaker 7: So I think that he can step up.
Speaker 5: He hash shown that he can step up, like in
Speaker 5: the Patriots game, you know, penning them inside the ten.
Speaker 5: So I mean they have full faith in Fossil of
Speaker 5: course as special teams coordinator, and they got faith in
Speaker 5: Jalen Tolbert.
Speaker 7: So I know they're gonna I know c J.
Speaker 6: Goodwin's gonna be missed.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Chris, Yeah, So the way that
Speaker 4: they addressed it in the game on Sunday because CJ
Speaker 4: got hurt early in the in the first quarter, went
Speaker 4: back out there for one more play and then basically
Speaker 4: missed the rest of the game. So Tolbert was it
Speaker 4: one gunner, and then they inserted Noah Igbinoghany as the
Speaker 4: other gunner in place of CJ. And I think that
Speaker 4: Jalen Tolbert, to your point, Nicole, has proven himself just
Speaker 4: in the first month of the seasons as a really
Speaker 4: good force in coverage at gunner, and so you know,
Speaker 4: maybe the special teams coordinators for the other team shift
Speaker 4: a little more focus to Jalen moving forward, because CJ
Speaker 4: is the guy that you really kind of have to
Speaker 4: plan for. So he's not just not just the leader,
Speaker 4: the veteran guy and the veteran presence, but really your
Speaker 4: most productive special teams guy. But the other thing is
Speaker 4: with Cavante Turpin not having him, what they did Sunday
Speaker 4: for the remainder of the second quarter and then for
Speaker 4: the second half, Ducevaughn took over on punt returns and
Speaker 4: Ricodoutle on kickoff returns. Well, here's the thing. Those guys
Speaker 4: are normally blocking for Cavante, So when they are taking
Speaker 4: over as the returners, then not only have you had
Speaker 4: to replace CJ, but you've had to replace Cavante and
Speaker 4: CJ with blocking. So you've had to make two moves there.
Speaker 4: And so you know, the special teams guys are mainly
Speaker 4: backups anyway, you have a few starters in there, like
Speaker 4: Jake Ferguson is a key guy. For example, when it's
Speaker 4: field goals and extra points, certainly you're starting offensive linemen or.
Speaker 6: Out there to help block.
Speaker 4: But it is a real domino effect, and so they
Speaker 4: were really, especially the second half of that game, working
Speaker 4: on the fly. It was almost like a preseason game
Speaker 4: in terms of all hands on deck and trying to
Speaker 4: make all of these personnel changes as the game moved along.
Speaker 4: But yeah, just from a personal standpoint and having a
Speaker 4: good relationship with CJ for the past several years, you know,
Speaker 4: my heart hurts for him because he really is a
Speaker 4: key guy. And Brad's right, he should have been in
Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl at least twice really over the past
Speaker 4: four or five years that he's past four or five seasons.
Speaker 4: But the Turpin thing, I know that Mike McCarthy said
Speaker 4: he's hopeful that he might be able to practice and
Speaker 4: maybe even play on Monday.
Speaker 6: We really won't know until.
Speaker 4: They have their first full practice this week, which will
Speaker 4: be on Thursday, extra day going into the Monday game.
Speaker 6: But man, I don't know. I don't know the way
Speaker 6: I don't I'm.
Speaker 4: Hopeful that Turpin will be able to play, but man,
Speaker 4: that the dominoes are really going to fall if he's
Speaker 4: not able to.
Speaker 2: I also think it's interesting too to see how they
Speaker 2: place him in the game. So you have Deuce Vaughan
Speaker 2: and then you have ric o'dowdell who were both kind
Speaker 2: of taking.
Speaker 4: Reps, yeah, but also at wide receiver for Turpin and
Speaker 4: with that package.
Speaker 6: So would Jalen Brooks be your fifth receiver?
Speaker 7: Probably?
Speaker 4: Probably probably Brooks as your fifth receiver. Brooks was active
Speaker 4: when Brandon Cooks was not available for Game two or
Speaker 4: Game three within the knee injury, and so Brooks would
Speaker 4: probably be active. And he you know, he can obviously
Speaker 4: if you're the fifth or sixth wide receiver, you're playing
Speaker 4: special teams, right, so he could help be another person
Speaker 4: out there and help on coverage and blocking and things
Speaker 4: like that. But you know, I guess the positive was
Speaker 4: the Brandon Aubrey with his fifty yard kick that was
Speaker 4: still solid.
Speaker 2: So I love that we have Brandon Aubrey's fifty yard
Speaker 2: kicks on this podcast and.
Speaker 3: All over, Kevin, let's take our next break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to continue the special
Speaker 2: teams conversation just a little bit, a couple more points
Speaker 2: there as well as the Cowboys defense. When I just
Speaker 2: saw on film what we heard from Dan Quinn yesterday
Speaker 2: and a couple of little nuggets that we can throw out.
Speaker 2: And we have a question to answer from someone on
Speaker 2: Twitter that I want to end the conversation with, so
Speaker 2: we'll get to all of.
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Speaker 2: get into a little bit more of special teams, because
Speaker 2: here's the thing I think.
Speaker 3: When it comes to we're just talking about Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 2: He is your top scorer on this team right now.
Speaker 4: And that's not necessarily a good thing. It's not a
Speaker 4: good thing because you don't want to settle for threes.
Speaker 4: You want your kickers to have a lot of ones
Speaker 4: for extra points, not a bunch of threes for field goals.
Speaker 4: Because you've been stalin in the red zone.
Speaker 3: Let's go through this.
Speaker 2: He has fourteen field goals and then ten extra point kicks. There,
Speaker 2: fifty two points for the season so far, and that's
Speaker 2: a lot of points for your kicks.
Speaker 3: In only five games. I would just like to point
Speaker 3: that out.
Speaker 2: It's only been five games and those are his stats.
Speaker 2: We praise Brandon Aubrey's leg so much, but it's gonna
Speaker 2: need a break at some point.
Speaker 6: Give me mistick to extra points, points.
Speaker 2: And you know, just give the man a break. It's
Speaker 2: a long season ahead. But I love Brandon Aubrey's story
Speaker 2: and I love what you've been able to see because
Speaker 2: the conversation, if you go back to week one a
Speaker 2: little bit, the conversation was not Brandon Aubrey is going
Speaker 2: to be carrying this team on his back to score
Speaker 2: points during games.
Speaker 3: It was is he even the kicker? Is Hee the
Speaker 3: certain kicker?
Speaker 2: Remember preseason, everyone was questioning, see the guy? Do you
Speaker 2: go and get another kicker? And I'm so proud of
Speaker 2: what he's been able to do during his time here,
Speaker 2: and a large part of that he credits to guys
Speaker 2: like Brian Anger, Trent Seg your long snapper there as well.
Speaker 2: So we're going back to you know, the the ripple
Speaker 2: effect of CJ. Goodwe here, there are veterans within this unit,
Speaker 2: but when you lose a guy like CJ. Goodwin, who,
Speaker 2: by the way, when you saw that blocked kick a
Speaker 2: couple weeks ago, kind.
Speaker 3: Of spearheaded that during the game, made the call to.
Speaker 2: Say, hey, we got this look at practice the morning
Speaker 2: before in the ballroom at the hotel. The guys were
Speaker 2: practicing the same thing, and then it transpired into the
Speaker 2: game because CJ. Goodwin was the one running that operation
Speaker 2: behind bones fossil. So again, it may not be a
Speaker 2: ripple effect that you see automatically from special teams, but
Speaker 2: it could be a ripple.
Speaker 3: Effect of what you don't see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not necessarily good because blocked kicks, muffed
Speaker 2: punts that they return, things of that nature, right, things
Speaker 2: that you don't see that could add more of a
Speaker 2: threat to.
Speaker 3: This Cowboys team overall. So wanted to throw that out there.
Speaker 2: All right, defense ladies, let's get to our last segment. Here, Aisha,
Speaker 2: I see you doodle in over there. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: see you doodle in. She's underlining the important thing she
Speaker 2: wants to talk about, the thing about Ayisha's notes is.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I've known her for a year and
Speaker 2: now we've been doing this podcast.
Speaker 3: I know what that says.
Speaker 2: I think if anybody just looks at it, nobody would
Speaker 2: know what it says.
Speaker 7: It's chaotic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so fun to watch.
Speaker 2: But what does what do your notes say about what
Speaker 2: you saw from the Cowboys defense and what you saw
Speaker 2: specifically in the second half of the game.
Speaker 7: Yeah, go there.
Speaker 8: I mean you mentioned number one. I wanted to just
Speaker 8: pick it back really quickly off of what you said
Speaker 8: about the blocked kicks. Yanye was close a couple of times.
Speaker 7: He's gonna get another one.
Speaker 8: His speed off the off the line is just is different.
Speaker 8: I'll say that he's really twitchy, and so I wanted
Speaker 8: to highlight that that I do think that he's gonna
Speaker 8: get another.
Speaker 6: You're making the call. You're making the call.
Speaker 7: Hoping that he gets another one.
Speaker 8: Now from this defense, the forty nine ers play a
Speaker 8: lot of quick game. So we talked about it yesterday
Speaker 8: where I was like, I was surprised at the lack
Speaker 8: of pressure that they got that plays into it, as
Speaker 8: well as the fact that the forty nine.
Speaker 7: Ers get the ball out a lot. I believe that
Speaker 7: my not Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 8: Dan quinn said, you know that they wanted to create
Speaker 8: longer third downs. He was hoping that they created more
Speaker 8: longer third downs. They had fourteen third downs total, sounds like,
Speaker 8: and they had seven under four yards where they had
Speaker 8: five wins and two losses, and then they had seven
Speaker 8: four yards and more and they had five.
Speaker 7: Losses and two wins.
Speaker 8: So you kind of see the balance there, and they
Speaker 8: were hoping to get them into more third and short situations.
Speaker 8: With that being said, one of the biggest problems that
Speaker 8: I well, one of the biggest issues was there was.
Speaker 7: A lot of leaky yardage.
Speaker 8: Well we talked about on this We talked about on
Speaker 8: this podcast that these guys needed to tackle and be
Speaker 8: sure tacklers, but the Niners just fought for just a
Speaker 8: couple more yards here and there, or a couple more
Speaker 8: yards after contact here and there.
Speaker 7: Really was also surprised.
Speaker 8: That the Cowboys didn't disguise more in the secondary. They
Speaker 8: ended up playing. This is that Cowboys are heavy man team.
Speaker 8: They ended up playing a lot more zone and I
Speaker 8: thought that they would be.
Speaker 7: A good mix of that, but that's not happened.
Speaker 8: And so really For me, it was just the fact
Speaker 8: they could not get them off the field on third down,
Speaker 8: whether it was for leaky yardage a couple of yards
Speaker 8: a couple of downs before, or the penalties on the
Speaker 8: key third down situations where they had gotten them off
Speaker 8: the field.
Speaker 7: And I mean just san Fran also too.
Speaker 8: They just I mean, they just do such a good
Speaker 8: job causing conflict, getting your guys to run into each other, rubs,
Speaker 8: stuff like that. And I think not disguising as much
Speaker 8: as the Cowboys could have done, really put them in
Speaker 8: a play. They played them straight up almost. They were
Speaker 8: just like, yeah, can you beat it? And I'm like, no,
Speaker 8: brock Perdy has had another year of being a quarter
Speaker 8: another he's had more time at being a quarterback. You've
Speaker 8: got to show him some different looks. Get your past
Speaker 8: rush from time, make him come off that first read.
Speaker 8: And I wasn't sure we saw that consistently. There were
Speaker 8: a few highlighted guys, but other.
Speaker 7: Than that, yeah, it just wasn't a good day in
Speaker 7: the office.
Speaker 8: LV sad he got hurt because he was very sound
Speaker 8: against the runs here early in that game. So yeah,
Speaker 8: just those to me, that was the big takeaway. I
Speaker 8: took from it, and I was glad that Dan Quinn
Speaker 8: mentioned creating the shorter, I mean, the longer third downs
Speaker 8: because that's where that defense thrives.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pin your ears back, yes, third and long. And
Speaker 4: then Dan also mentioned that the one time they got
Speaker 4: him in a third and fifteen and they give up
Speaker 4: an explosive play, you know, so you do that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you can't do that because because the defense has been
Speaker 4: good at taking advantage of that, you know, three of
Speaker 4: the previous four games. But you're right about the leaky
Speaker 4: yards when instead of holding him to a two yard run,
Speaker 4: when that becomes a four to five yard run, and like, yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's a shorter second down, shorter third down. But
Speaker 4: the way Dan put it was he says, it's like
Speaker 4: paper cuts, you know, just get again, get death by.
Speaker 6: A thousand paper cuts. It's basically what it was.
Speaker 3: It's a great Tailor Swift song.
Speaker 6: Oh does that you got?
Speaker 9: All right?
Speaker 6: Jesse? Get ready? We had a Tailor.
Speaker 3: Swift to be fair, that's what Dan said. Saxcuse me,
Speaker 3: Mike said death by thousand cus that's an in the prescot.
Speaker 6: I was like, but it's a Taylor Swift reference.
Speaker 3: But I thought, wait, I had in my head. I
Speaker 3: thought that's a Taylor Swift song when he said it,
Speaker 3: but I didn't say.
Speaker 6: That quarter is from from Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Wait, so when do we put because I'm just quoting
Speaker 2: what michaemccarthy said, so it does not count.
Speaker 5: Wait, so since when do we put coins in the
Speaker 5: jar for Taylor Swift?
Speaker 7: You haven't gotten you care say this point.
Speaker 2: We actually I got a tweet about you. What yours
Speaker 2: is going to be? Yeah, we got a tweet when
Speaker 2: we put a quarter in for you, and we'll talk
Speaker 2: about it after the show.
Speaker 3: Sty we got a tweet about it. Everybody, we have
Speaker 3: a we have our own things that we have to
Speaker 3: put in there.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, yep, I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker 7: Ain't that the same?
Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime you say you know what I'm saying, you have.
Speaker 8: To say I say that a lot, not a lot,
Speaker 8: but you say it.
Speaker 4: But it's all either for a Christmas fund or for charity.
Speaker 4: So well we'll decide later.
Speaker 8: Asking his birthday birthday, Yeah, we're gonna be broke it
Speaker 8: all right, you know what coming along, You're gonna be
Speaker 8: broke from the puns.
Speaker 6: So sorry, Yeah, but we got questions, we got question.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Twitter, let's end this episode with a good
Speaker 2: question that we got here on Twitter. I tweeted to
Speaker 2: send us your questions. I'm sorry we didn't get to
Speaker 2: all of them. We will save them throughout the week,
Speaker 2: though Jamie wants to know.
Speaker 3: He said, good evening from the UK.
Speaker 2: Does it, James last week's sho where the Cowboys really
Speaker 2: are or aren't likely to challenge the likes of the
Speaker 2: Eagles and forty nine ers in the NFC? Or do
Speaker 2: you think it was just a bad day in the
Speaker 2: office and we don't see that kind of performance again
Speaker 2: this season? Honest opinions here based on that question.
Speaker 4: Uh, well, are you going first, Nicole?
Speaker 6: Who's going first?
Speaker 10: First?
Speaker 2: Come?
Speaker 5: Well, let me say I hope it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 5: I hope that it was a bad day in the
Speaker 5: office and it was just kind of like, okay, like
Speaker 5: the Cardinals game, like let's just throw it away.
Speaker 7: Let's just hope that was that.
Speaker 5: But I think that now you've gotten exposed as an offense.
Speaker 5: You've been relying and playing behind your defense all season long.
Speaker 7: Now I feel like.
Speaker 5: You got to step up, and I'm hoping that like
Speaker 5: I said, that was just a bad day in the office.
Speaker 5: Now this team has had time, You've got extra days.
Speaker 5: Now you've got to step up because again, like I
Speaker 5: said yesterday, your schedule is not getting easier. So I mean, no,
Speaker 5: I hope. I'm not going to say that it might
Speaker 5: not happen, but I definitely hope, certainly hope it does
Speaker 5: not happen.
Speaker 6: Again.
Speaker 4: I'll go to what Bill Parcells used to say, you
Speaker 4: are what your record says you are. This is a
Speaker 4: three and two team, and there's no shame in losing
Speaker 4: to a forty nine ers team which proved itself on
Speaker 4: game Day Sunday to be the superior team. But the
Speaker 4: fact that the defense, who by Mike McCarthy's admission, is
Speaker 4: the strength of the team, win two out of three games,
Speaker 4: and they're coming saying that's not us, that's not good.
Speaker 4: This team is not good enough if they do not
Speaker 4: play com implementary football. This team is not good enough
Speaker 4: for one phase to carry all three to this point,
Speaker 4: to this point, Can that change, Jamie moving forward? We hope,
Speaker 4: So I really don't. We still haven't seen this offense.
Speaker 4: It's at full strength or at you know, full throttle
Speaker 4: and it's been five games, Okay, there's no more excuses
Speaker 4: moving forward. You've got your five offensive linemen. You can't
Speaker 4: use that as an excuse anymore. We're not at full
Speaker 4: strength along the offensive line.
Speaker 6: Dak needs to play better.
Speaker 4: He's the first to say that we need to get
Speaker 4: the ball to CD more. Yeah, but we also need
Speaker 4: to get it to Brandon Cooks and Michael Gallop and
Speaker 4: to the tight ends and Jake Ferguson and Peyton Hendershott
Speaker 4: needs to get back and healthy and get involved. So
Speaker 4: ball distribution is going to be the thing, and it's
Speaker 4: all about matchup.
Speaker 6: Guys.
Speaker 4: Don't get worried that CD was targeted eight times this
Speaker 4: time and Michael only twice. It's going to depend week
Speaker 4: to week, okay, So don't get caught up in the numbers.
Speaker 4: Week you know, week to week that's gonna vary. But
Speaker 4: you are what your record says you are, and right
Speaker 4: now they're not equal to the forty nine ers, and
Speaker 4: hopefully we get a chance to play them again in January.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna answer the question guys saying that if I
Speaker 8: think both sides of the ball got to look themselves
Speaker 8: in the mirror and ask themselves what they want to be.
Speaker 8: And that's like to me, guest coaches included, just because
Speaker 8: it's it's not working, it's a players and it's.
Speaker 7: It's all the way around.
Speaker 8: So to me, if they don't make changes internally within themselves,
Speaker 8: their decision making, some of their however they decide to
Speaker 8: do things, then yeah, this is this is what they're
Speaker 8: gonna be. But you've seen in this last few games,
Speaker 8: like there has to be changes made. I with your
Speaker 8: ideals and how you decide to go about, you know,
Speaker 8: continue to push this team because clearly the offensive side
Speaker 8: of the ball they're struggling with some certain things, but
Speaker 8: defensively as well, what is your your bread and butter? Like,
Speaker 8: how are you guys gonna go forward? And if your
Speaker 8: bread and butter's not working anymore, what changes can you
Speaker 8: make to go ahead and evolve Because it might just
Speaker 8: be time for that, Like, it might just be time
Speaker 8: to evolve in different ways. So if they stay like
Speaker 8: this and they don't change anything, yeah, but they got
Speaker 8: to make some decisions amongst each other to give.
Speaker 4: Hiad yea And by the way, Lighton vander ash is
Speaker 4: going to miss some time. Yeah, you know which several
Speaker 4: weeks at least, Yeah, handful of games, so at least
Speaker 4: hopefully he'll be back, but we don't know how long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know, and we can get in this
Speaker 2: discussion tomorrow. But if you remember how the run defense
Speaker 2: looked last season and when the conversation came up, it's
Speaker 2: when he had that next stinger, and so we'll get
Speaker 2: into that.
Speaker 3: Here's what I think about that question.
Speaker 2: I think that when you lose to a forty nine
Speaker 2: Ers team, who is arguably the best in the NFL
Speaker 2: right now, doesn't necessarily define you. What defines you is
Speaker 2: how you bounce back from this, because, like you said, Christy,
Speaker 2: there's nothing left that you can say is getting in
Speaker 2: your way anymore. Can't be emotional for this next game,
Speaker 2: you can't overhype it, you can't get to in your
Speaker 2: head about it.
Speaker 3: It's either you do it or you don't. You execute
Speaker 3: or you don't. You have a game plan it's not working,
Speaker 3: you adjust it or you don't. And that's what's going
Speaker 3: to define the team. You're only five weeks in. Your
Speaker 3: team is three and two. Other three and.
Speaker 2: Two teams include the Bills, the Steelers, the Ravens, the Jags,
Speaker 2: the Colts can keep going down this list, and the Saints.
Speaker 3: Three and two is not a horrible record.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you're still vying for
Speaker 2: a playoff run. At this point, you're still talking about
Speaker 2: the playoffs in this conversation because.
Speaker 3: You have the talent on this team. But how you
Speaker 3: decide to execute going forward that defines this football team.
Speaker 3: It's not what happened on Sunday night, and it's not
Speaker 3: anything that's happened these last five weeks. It's what you
Speaker 3: learn from it, what you take away from it, and
Speaker 3: what you decide to execute on going forward.
Speaker 7: So you better pivot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, Well, ladies, our time has come to an end.
Speaker 2: We went a little bit over today, but all in good,
Speaker 2: good stuff. Here Tomorrow we're gonna turn page officially. We're
Speaker 2: gonna start talking all things Chargers for your Monday night
Speaker 2: football game. So you get a Sunday to kind of
Speaker 2: rest and get ready for Monday night.
Speaker 3: But we're gonna give you all the previews like we
Speaker 3: normally do in a normal week Wednesday and Thursday as well.
Speaker 3: So with that being said, we'll be back here tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Please take care of yourself.
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