1 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Heldo, as they say in Spanish. Hello, I too got 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: up to Spanish three in high school. Actually wasn't terrible 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: at it. I wasn't that great, but my dad really 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: tried to get me to learn it. I really wish 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: I would have been more locked and loaded on that. 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast three and Out podcast with me. 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm John middle Coff. You guys know the drill. Hopefully 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: everyone had a good weekend hanging out, chilling, relaxing by 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: the pool. I know I did catch caught some rays, 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: got a little son, played a little golf. Now we're 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: back at it. I guess I read today on the 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: social media streets when I was refusing to look at 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: the stock market plummet. That's a couple of teams report 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: this week. The Cowboys, the Bucks, I think in the 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: colts by, you know, by the middle of next week. 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: I talked to somebody's day in the league. Most of them, 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, kind of start work either this weekend or 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: next Monday. And once they start work, like kind of 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: show up for training camp. Now usually they get there 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: before the veteran guys get there. The scouting community, obviously, 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: I think gms and head coaches have probably been going in. 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: But football is right around the corner, baby, It's it's 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: basically here, Uh the SEC media days. We'll talk a 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: little bit about the SEC today. Big news today though, 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: the Mannings, the Manning brothers are gonna be part of 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Have some thoughts there, uh college football. 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, Deshaun Watson, it's kind of weird how 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: that story is, just what the hell happened to it? 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: And then I thought I'd do the three offseason moves 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: that I that I am the most interested to see 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: definitely kind of play out during training camp. And of course, 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: if you subscribe to Collins feed, I'd greatly appreciate you 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: subscribe to my feed separate from his feed. Three and 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: out with me. It's got his own feet. Subscribe if 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: you have already, thank you. If you haven't, please leave 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: a review. It helps with the selling. It helps with 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: these things they called the algorithm. You know, I say 38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: a lot algorithms like I know what that means. It 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: just helps, Uh you know the hype of the podcast. 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, but just just leave a review if 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: you can. Okay. The big news today that was announced 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: that kind of got me thinking was Eli Manning and 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning are both gonna be part of Monday Night 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Football for really the next three years. Officially, if you 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, they're gonna be doing a simulcast on 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: ESPN two with celebrity guests. They're both working remotely. Uh 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: and they're gonna do ten games the next three years, 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: so a total of thirty games. It's a pretty big deal. Now, 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: let's peel back the onion a little bit. Monday Night Football. Well, 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's been passed right. If you're my age 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: in your mid thirties. When we were kids in the nineties, 52 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football was the biggest show in America. Now 53 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: that is Sunday Night Football, and depending on the week, 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football has become really but Monday Night Football 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: is still a standalone game. It's a massive, massive product 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: for the league, for its partner in ESPN, for the owners, 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: and for for ratings. I mean a lot of people watch. 58 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: And let's face it, they have had big time announcers. 59 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: They just had basically for a decade, John Gruden, who 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: was the modern version of John Madden. Now I would 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: say that John Madden again, I'm a sucker. John Madden 62 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: was better, but Gruden was very, very entertaining. Now he 63 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: might have piste off some like hardcore fans those broadcasts 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: or for the casual person. And he was a rock 65 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: star and they built the brand around John Group and 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: it really really worked. And since he's left, they've been 67 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: a disaster. Now. I know Lewis Riddeck. I worked for 68 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Lewis Riddeck when I was with the Eagles. If you've 69 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: listened to Lewis Riddeck, he knows his ship. He's really good. 70 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: But Monday Night Football is looking for a superstar. There 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: was a reason I said it last year when Drew 72 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Brees went to NBC. You are crazy, naive and and 73 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: maybe you don't even think this deeply about it, but 74 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: they hired him to eventually maybe a year, maybe two years, 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: get rid of Chris Collinsworth. You want stars in your 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: broadcast boost now, ideally you want stars that are good. 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: John Madden was good. Jon Gruden was entertaining, right, Aikman Romo. 78 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: They're good at their jobs. So just because you get 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: a big name historically I was young for this, but 80 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: I guess Joe Montana was terrible, right, I don't think 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh again, you could correct me if you're older. 82 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: Was that good? You see a lot in the NBA. 83 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: I mean Chris Webber, very famous, awful they fired him. 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't even think Reggie Miller is that great. It's 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: the NBA struggles at it, even though they have a 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: lot of famous players. And it's hard, right because the 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: NBA is a good example that forever their players were 88 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: making more money than NFL players. It's hard to get 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: a guy that's made two d million dollars to do 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: the job right. It's hard to get like they would 91 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: love Philip Rivers to call a game CBS, ABC, Fox. 92 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: He's too rich. He wants to coach high school. He 93 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: doesn't give a shit. That's why NBC had to pounce 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: when Drew Brees was open to it. Drew Brees made 95 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: probably four or million dollars on and off the field. Well, 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: the Mannings are even richer. Peyton's the richest and he 97 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: lies worth a time. So this isn't breaking news to 98 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: know that if either one of those guys would have said, 99 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: I will do Monday Night Football with Steve Levy, Lewis 100 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: Riddick and Brian Greasy would have immediately been fired. We 101 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: know that. I mean two years ago they tried to 102 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: get Tony Romo. I guess it was a year ago, 103 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: right right before last football season. They were offering him 104 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: like fifteen million dollars and then those guys ended up 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: getting the job. Well, now, like I've learned this in anyone, 106 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: Like I've really only been in sales now for about 107 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: four or five years because I have to sell my 108 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: own podcast, which is a learning experience, and I've you know, 109 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: followed a buns Instagram accounts forever. And obviously when you 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: go to college, if you're in if you have a 111 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: business degree, you hear stuff, but until you get out 112 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: in the trenches of real life, you don't truly understand 113 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: this is anyone listening that's in sales. Like of course, 114 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: most times when you try to sell something, you don't 115 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: get a yes. You're really just looking for a maybe, 116 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: and then you eventually can turn that maybe into a yes. 117 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: I always thought when I was, like even when I 118 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: got out of football and gotten radio, I always thought 119 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: it was bullshit that the bosses would go play golf 120 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: with the partners try to extend deals. I thought it 121 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: was all fluff. And then I've realized, since selling stuff 122 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: like that stuff is important, having personal relationships with the 123 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: people you're in business with or trying to get into 124 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: business with is very important. There's a reason people go 125 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: on these golf trips, there's a reason people go, you know, 126 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 1: to these fancy dinner You're trying to woo these people 127 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: to do business with them. And the most powerful thing 128 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: any human can ever say, not just in business, but 129 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: in life is no. I don't need that. Like now, 130 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm good because usually when you're young, uh, when you're 131 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: kind of desperate, you're always saying yes, you don't have 132 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: a choice. And then the older you get, ideally you 133 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: get some more leverage, you say no a lot. Yeah, 134 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: my time is too valuable. I'm not interested in that. 135 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: The money doesn't matter to me. I think we're all 136 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: aspiring to get to a point in time or a 137 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: place in life that you can just say no to 138 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: whatever you want to and you only say yes to 139 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: the things you really want to do. Peyton Manning and 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: Eli Manning are at that point in time in life. 141 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: They don't have to say yes to a thing. Peyton 142 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: surely doesn't know. Peyton clearly kind of likes the line 143 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: like Eli a little different personality. But the reason that 144 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: those guys wouldn't immediately uh say yes to it, even 145 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: if ESPN was offering one of them twenty million dollars 146 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: a year, paying about twenty million dollars a year whatever, 147 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: is because what do they really have to gain? Right 148 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: we Peyton's going to the Hall of Fame. I think 149 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: Eli inevitably is going there, but he's got two rings. 150 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: He's an absolute legend. That it could go bad, Like 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: you get on National TELEVI, maybe you're not good because 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that you're just gonna get into it 153 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: and be good. But ESPN will do anything possible to 154 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: get those guys involved. So what happens. They gave them 155 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: a simulcast with celebrities. They both get to work remotely, 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: and the production company that's doing this is Omaha Productions. 157 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: Now I wasn't born yesterday, I'd imagine that's Patent's right 158 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: Omaha oh mah. So the best part. And as someone 159 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: that's looking into real estate right now in a market 160 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: that's on fire, hopefully like I'm not rooting for the 161 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: stock market to kind of crumble, but the stock market 162 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: goes down, everything goes down, it makes purchasing real estate 163 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: for me a lot cheaper. So I wouldn't mind a 164 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: little come back to Earth. Even though I don't root 165 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: for economies to slow down. I wanted to keep going. 166 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: It just makes things less expensive for me because right 167 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: now in the real estate market, it is the sellers 168 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: are in complete control. They basically tell you to bend 169 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: over and take it. That's how it's working in all 170 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: the major suburbs all over America. Well, now ESPN to 171 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: get those guys involved, they had no choice. You can 172 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: work from home, you can do whatever you want, simulcast, 173 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: bring on your buddies. Like ESPN has zero juice right 174 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: because they are desperate just to get him, maybe from 175 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: the Mannings, and clearly the Mannings gave in. But they 176 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: don't have to do anything. They don't have to fly 177 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: to the game, they have to meet with any of 178 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: the coaches they ship, They don't even have to leave 179 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: their home office. It's an incredible gig. But if I 180 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: was Lewis Riddick and I was Brian Greasy, I would 181 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: know I'm on borrow time because who in their right 182 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: mind because ultimately the games, and we've been talking about 183 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: this for years on this show. The games pay for everything. 184 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: I think I saw over the weekend, maybe it was 185 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: Saturday or Friday. The checks got distributed last year for 186 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: the revenue right, and the majority of it comes from 187 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: the television revenue. Every team got three hundred million dollars. 188 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: The salary cap last year was a million dollars. Even 189 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: if you're coaching staff costs fifteen million dollars, we're only 190 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: at two hundred fifteen million dollars. Those are your most 191 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: expensive employees. So then you're scout, your general managers, your 192 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: sales people. At worst, you're what two hundred forty two 193 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars the league's media rites covers at all 194 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: they truly care about the television ratings. Well, if you 195 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: truly care about the television ratings, you wouldn't put on 196 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: an as simulcast with two superstars. They're way bigger than 197 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: anyone you're rolling out on the actual game. It's kind 198 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: of like you're you're taking away from your product, even 199 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: if it only means two million people watch. Those two 200 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: million people that are watching those guys instead of fifteen 201 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: million people watching ESPN two is taken away from the broadcast. 202 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Even though ultimately it's all under one umbrella because they're 203 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: trying to sell these guys to do it, and they're 204 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: trying to get one of them eventually to give in. 205 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: Ideally it's Peyton, but I think they would gladly take Eli, 206 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: and I think honestly Eli might be better than Peyton, 207 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: just because a little less corporate, little just I just 208 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: that's just a gut feel. But it's clear where we're headed. 209 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: Anytime in media when you see people filling in, like 210 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: if you were driving around, if I guess if you 211 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: still listen to radio, you probably don't like the thing 212 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,119 Speaker 1: that's powerful about the difference between like radio and podcasts. 213 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: If I don't do a podcast, no one fills in 214 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: on three and out. When when I did radio and 215 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: take vacation, they had a fill in, And usually the 216 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: fill in is because maybe this guy is good, maybe 217 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: this guy will do a higher rating, maybe we can 218 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: get it for cheaper. So anytime you see a fill 219 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: in on radio or TV, just no, they're trying people out. 220 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: Powerful thing about podcast I don't worry about anyone filling in. 221 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: It's me, this is my show. You're coming for me, 222 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: You're coming for you know what any pod. There's no 223 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: like Joe Rogan fill in right, he's the show where 224 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: in normal old school media radio and television, it's like, 225 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, we're always looking to either upgrade or get cheaper. 226 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: And clearly ESPN is looking and they'll do. And I 227 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: don't blame him. This is a smart move because the 228 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: only way to eventually get them to say yes is 229 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: make it easy for them. They're getting more. Maybe he's 230 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: from these guys, and then let's the white whale is Peyton, 231 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: and maybe with time he ends up giving in and doesn't, 232 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: which would be huge, and they would immediately put them 233 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: in the broadcast and they would fire absolutely everyone involved, 234 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: and they would let him pick the guy that he 235 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: wanted to do be you know, he would hand pick 236 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: the play by play guy. Remember the story a couple 237 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: of years ago Alex Rodriguez when he took over Sunday 238 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: Night Baseball, he hand picked the scursion that was his 239 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: hand pick guy. And maybe they were, you know, represented 240 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: by the same agent or whatever. But he had all 241 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: the juice. Peyton has all the juice no one else has. 242 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: Like we saw Booger tested toward those guys had zero 243 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: power once you know, they fired mcdonnaugh. Those guys had 244 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: no juice. The only guy that's had juice the last 245 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: decade and Monday I Football is John Grood, and he 246 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: had it all because they would bend over backwards for him. 247 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Now it's clear they're trying to bend over backwards for 248 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: the Mannings. Now. I don't know if it's inevitable because 249 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: ultimately Peyton would have to just go all in, right. 250 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: They pay him a lot of money, and it's a 251 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: lot of work. Every week, you're traveling every week, you're 252 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: meeting with the coaches every week. You're kind of putting 253 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: yourself out there. Uh. And Peyton's really the only negatives 254 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: he's ever had in his life were you know, on 255 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: the field, but they were always short lived because he 256 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: always bounced right back. He was such a great player. 257 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: ELI went through more, but I think his personality, he 258 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: didn't really give a shit. So I'm fascinated to watch 259 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: this play out. But just know this is not random. 260 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: This is not random. They want these guys to run eventually. 261 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: The broadcast. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 262 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 263 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: Fox sports radio dot com and within the I Heart 264 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: radio app search f s R to listen live. One 265 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: story I've seen kind of lingering out there that I 266 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: just want to pump the brakes on a little bit, 267 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: and just I mean, it's kind of a bizarre story, right, 268 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: just to show on Watson in general, he was the 269 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: talk of football probably in the month of February. Then 270 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: everything came out with the massage therapists and it was 271 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: clearly got really weird. And then I would say, around 272 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: a little bit before the draft, it's just we haven't 273 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: heard a thing. I haven't heard one person say anything. 274 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: Whether that be his lawyer, whether that see be any 275 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: of the girls, I don't know, but it's pretty clear. 276 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that I Deshaun Watson is. 277 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd even go this far not 278 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: gonna play football in I can't see him playing for 279 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: another team. And here's what I know. He is a 280 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: very very talented player. And if this never would have happened, 281 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: teams would have been lined up to trade form maybe 282 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: what the Niners ended up getting for trade lance or 283 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: trading for trade lance, they just would have given that 284 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: deal to the Houston Texans right pick twelve and two 285 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: other first rounds for two other first rounders for Deshaun Watson. 286 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: Maybe that would have been the deal. The Eagles have 287 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: these first rounders, the Broncos. Who knows, people would have 288 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: traded a lot for him. I think I think anyone 289 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: listening agrees he would have gone for a boatload of picks. 290 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: If Matt Stafford went for two ones, I think Anna three. 291 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is way younger, would have gone for a lot. 292 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: But this happened. And here's what I know. Haven't been 293 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: in these rooms when talking about situations like this and 294 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: just knowing people in the league, and this is not 295 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: breaking news here. There is not a soul in the 296 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: NFL that is going to trade for Deshaun Watson until 297 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: this is sorted out in the courtroom, because it would 298 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: be impossible. I don't care how good your local security is, 299 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: no matter how many you know former FBI agents you 300 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: have working for you as an NFL team sniffing around 301 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: doing your own recon on this, you would never be 302 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: able to get the actual information. And it would be 303 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: career suicide to trade for a guy one. We don't 304 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: even know the outcome what's gonna happen yet too, Who 305 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: knows if he's gonna get spended, and like back to 306 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: the outcome, if it is really bad. You can't trade 307 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: for something with the unknown of the possibility of it 308 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: being really bad, especially given what you have to trade 309 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: for him. And I'm a huge believer in buy and low. 310 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: Love buy and low. Who doesn't Everyone wants to buy low, 311 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: But there are certain things in life you cannot buy 312 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: low on. And definitely, in two thousand twenty one, a 313 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: situation like this, you couldn't touch him. I'm even saying 314 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: if you get the guy for like a second round pick, 315 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: because you would have to say, well, wait, they're giving 316 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: him to us for a second round pick. It would 317 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: be like a five million dollar house, like you know, 318 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: I'll just give it to you for You'd be like, 319 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: they're rouse snakes living in every room, I mean, the ghosts. 320 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: What is there like, uh, toxic waste beneath it it? 321 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: It wouldn't make sense. So to me, he is currently untouchable. 322 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: And sometimes I see, why are we talking more about? 323 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: What is there to say at this point in time? Honestly, 324 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: what is there to say? And what's gonna be fascinating? 325 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: Which I don't even know if this can be an 326 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: educated guest. But let's say everyone the situation goes away, 327 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: he pays all these girls off. I don't know if 328 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: that just exonerates him in the eyes of general managers 329 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: and owners, because once upon a time Greg Hardy got off. 330 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying listen, I don't know anything about 331 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson. We know for a fact the details of 332 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: the Greg Hardy situation, and we know that he paid 333 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: it off to to go away, and then when Jerry 334 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: took him, they got crushed for it. And rightfully so 335 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: Greg Hardy wanted. He's a bad guy until it's like, 336 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't a good enough player anymore. Bring 337 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: him in the in the locker room. It was a disaster. 338 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: It was a terrible move for the Cowboys. And I 339 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: think teams have learned from these situations now. I never 340 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: say never. I'm not naive, like this is the football. 341 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: Their bottom line business is not to set the moral 342 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: compass for society. So ultimately, if he did pay him off, 343 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to serve any jail time and he 344 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: just gets eight game suspension from the league or five 345 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: game suspension or whatever. We know teams will look past it, 346 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: But I do think that you just be a little 347 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: hesitant given that at your quarterback. We see a lot 348 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: with position players, it's so much easy to pivot off 349 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: position players. It's harder with quarterbacks, especially given what you'd 350 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: have to potentially pay for him. So at this point 351 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: in time, no matter where I read like this potentially 352 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: could the Eagles in a year, I would say, right now, 353 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: he's not touchable. He is he is toxic. Now that 354 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: could change more information comes out, But until anything gets 355 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: figured out in the court of law, which is something 356 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: that the league has no control over. Right that's between 357 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, the accusers, and the lawyers, which is a 358 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: off my head. But until that gets figured out, he's 359 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Okay, let's dive into little college football. 360 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: And right now, if you live in the South, you 361 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: know SEC media days are going on. I call the 362 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: SEC NFL light so where a large percentage of NFL 363 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: players come from. The fan bases are similar to the NFL, 364 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: the huge television ratings, it's an absolute cash cow of 365 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: a conference. Big ten's not far behind, but college football 366 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: is big time, right. We all know that the SEC, 367 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: led by the basically Bama. But then the three other 368 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: four programs Florida, Georgia, A and M's coming right now. 369 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: You know L s U on a given year, we 370 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: know how State, you know, Penn State, Wisconsin, kind of 371 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: trade off in Oklahoma. And before we get into just 372 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: the health of college football, I saw something that just 373 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: made me shake my head, even though I understand it. 374 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: Malachi Nelson, who is a five star pro spect who's 375 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a junior this fall. So this fall he's 376 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a junior in high school. He is the 377 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: number one quarterback in the in his class of two thousand, 378 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: and he's the number two overall player in his class. 379 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: Just committed to Oklahoma. That's not a big deal. Oklahoma 380 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: has been getting top flight, five star players for a 381 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: long period of time. The thing that really jumped out 382 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: to me though, he's from Anaheim, California, the last two quarterbacks. 383 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: I guess they've signed other guys in between, but Spencer Rattler, 384 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: their current starting quarterback, is from the state of Arizona. 385 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: This kid, who clearly is probably pretty awesome, is from 386 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: l A. And I'm not trying to be an alarmist 387 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: because the facts are already in the Pack twelve is 388 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: clearly behind the other four conferences. The SEC and the 389 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Big Ten run circles really around him both and while 390 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: the Big twelve has been really down, Oklahoma had thrived. 391 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: They have produced multiple number one overall quarterbacks. They've been 392 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoffs, their head coach is a star. 393 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: I get why this guy would sign up to go there, right, 394 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: where's he gonna go? Usc U c l A Jeff 395 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: Tedford a walking through that door at cow. Oregon is 396 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: an awesome program and they've had a ton of success 397 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: the last couple of decades. But if Oregon is the 398 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: best program in your conference, probably got a problem. Like 399 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: ideally SCS Humming and Oregon is also there, and I 400 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: think that, like I, I just don't see how the 401 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: Pack twelve can get caught up. They just continue to 402 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: get lacked. Now. In fairness, top players, at least in 403 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: my life, have left the state of California for other programs. 404 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: The greatest player in NFL history is from twenty five 405 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: minutes away from me, Tom Brady went to Michigan. The 406 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: best player in Dalla sal history was d J. Williams 407 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: conquer It's Dayless House five minutes away from where I'm 408 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: sitting right now. He went to the University of Miami. 409 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: When I was at Fresno State, Oklahoma was signing guys 410 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: from California, Kenny Stills, San Diego guy. So just these 411 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: other programs have signed guys from California. I'm not saying 412 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: that that is that weird. It's the floodgates are open 413 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: now though, because two years ago DJ who's now gonna 414 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback at Clemson, also from l A. 415 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: He's at Clemson. We've talked a lot about Naja Harris 416 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: on this show. He went to Alabama. The world was 417 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: flat right that article or that book was written. Is 418 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: that Malcolm Gladwell book. I think it might have been 419 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: Michael Lewis, one of those two guys. I actually think 420 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: that book was probably a little ahead of its time, 421 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: and in two thousand twenty one, that has never been 422 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: more true with the Internet, with the popularity of television. 423 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: I can't imagine being a high school kid and turning 424 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: on TV and seeing you know, sixty thou people at 425 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: USC and them struggling to win nine games. Returning on 426 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: the television and seeing Oklahoma, seeing Alabama, seeing Georgia, seeing Clemson, 427 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: seeing Ohio State and not going there. Hew, people are 428 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: leaving California right now, then, aren't athletes? Right? We're going 429 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: to other states for business purposes. It's cheaper to operate there. 430 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't the kid leave if the programs aren't as good? 431 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: But historically that hasn't been the case. In the in 432 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: the nineties and even the early two thousand's, U c 433 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: l A got elite guys from the state of California. 434 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: Then in the two thousands we knew, we know what 435 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll did, But one thing we forget about is 436 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Tedford how to run at cal From like O 437 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: two till about two thousand ten, of recruiting the top players, 438 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: do you think DeShawn Jackson would end up in the 439 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: pack twelve now? Of course not. He'd be at Oklahoma, 440 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: He'd be at Alabama, Marshawn Lynch, some of the players 441 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: at Tedford was getting. Alex Mack was from Sandy A 442 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: or Santa Barbara. I don't see anyway. It makes me 443 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: sad as a Pack twelve guy to think that this 444 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: is only going to speed up the process and the name, 445 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: image and likeness. We act like that's gonna create some 446 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: parody bullshit. It's going to I'd say, accelerate the top 447 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: programs Ohio State, Alabama, A and M Georgia, Florida, Oklahoma, 448 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: if Sark can figure it out at Texas, Penn State, 449 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, all the all the programs that truly care 450 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: a lot about football, They're only gonna quadruple down on 451 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: it in i L. So their programs are obviously ahead 452 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: of most every program out here beside Oregon. I don't 453 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: know how they're gonna catch up. Now. You're only as 454 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: strong as your coach. So eventually, if USC can get 455 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: the right coach, maybe, but let's face it, the last 456 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: time they hit a home run with the coach they 457 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: kind of looked into Pete Carroll. He was not their 458 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: first choice. So I'm a little nervous for the health 459 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: of the Pact twelve football just in general relative to 460 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: competing with the big boys. Now, I think it's gonna 461 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: be fine. They're gonna keep producing NFL players, They'll have 462 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: teams that you know, their best team will win ten 463 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: eleven games. I'm talking about having a powerhouse because Oklahoma, obviously, 464 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: Alabama and all the other programs, I just listen are 465 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: so far ahead and now it's cool. If you grow 466 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: up in Sacramento, where you grow up in Los Angeles, 467 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I'll go to Ohio State over USC 468 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: or U C, l A or Cal. Why would I 469 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: stay out here? Maybe Oregon? But if if Clemson calls me, 470 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: you think I'm turning down Dabbo of course not. And 471 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: Malachi Nelson like he's not leaving the state twenty years 472 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: ago definitely to go to Oklahoma. The other thing I 473 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: saw is at the SEC, which is media days kind 474 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: of in full swing today. I think Monday was the 475 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: first official day. Greg Sanky, the commissioner, said they will 476 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: not cancel or move games. If you have a Corona outbreak, 477 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: you will forfeit the game. But we're not pushing back 478 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: inventory like they did last season. And one thing I 479 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: think is gonna be fascinating is how these leagues, Like, 480 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: are these schools going to continue to pay for testing? 481 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: Are they gonna worry about testing players? I don't know 482 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: the answer to that. If they do not care about 483 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: testing players like they did last year, especially if you 484 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: get vaccinated, I don't think it'll be as big a 485 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: deal now if they continue to test guys are gonna 486 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: test positive. It's just going to happen. But I know this, 487 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: and they set the tone last year is the SEC 488 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: will power through unlike any other conference, and the Big 489 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: twelve in a CEC will be right behind them. But 490 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: we know the Big ten in the Pack twelve operate differently. 491 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: So one thing that will be fascinating this year it's just, 492 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: let's face it, in the in the winner virus is 493 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: their problems, right. I mean, it's just the natural. I'm 494 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: the I'm the doctor or scientists, but they're gonna be 495 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: some issues and the SEC will not flinch, well the 496 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: Pack twelve, because I would imagine they'll start canceling games 497 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: or pushing back and it'll just be a ship show. 498 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: The Big ten potentially too, Is the SEC like they 499 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: were last year? Are we gonna look up and they're 500 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: one of the only conferences that, yeah, we've played thirteen 501 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: games again and some of these other conferences play seven, 502 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: play nine and it gets weird that way. Clearly they 503 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: do not want to do that. There is a lot 504 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: of money on the table. All these places will be hell, 505 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: they were packed last year. I remember watching I think 506 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: a Florida game and looking up and this is like 507 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: California was shut down. It's like that place is packed. 508 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: I was so jealous, like these guys they didn't even 509 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: they didn't even hesitate, So you definite really know now 510 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: they're not going to I just I'm fascinating to watch 511 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: the way the other conferences operate the Pactwalve has a 512 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: new commissioner. The Big Ten has proven to be you know, 513 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: they lean academia. They did last year until Justin Fields 514 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: and you know Harbaugh and Ryan Day refused to shut 515 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: up about it, and props to them. But it's it's 516 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating. But the one thing we know for 517 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: certain is the SEC will set the tone on this. Okay, 518 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: as we get closer and closer, not just a training 519 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: camp but the season, wanted to dive into some big 520 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: picture thoughts and I picked three things that I'm most 521 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: excited to see play out. Definitely in training camp, but 522 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: early on in the season. I'm gonna start my at 523 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: number three. I'm gonna work up to number one. So 524 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: these are the three things that I'm most excited from 525 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: the off season. An offseason move this year that was 526 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: made that I'm excited to see play out number three. Now. Listen, 527 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: I was hoping the Chargers would take a big swing, 528 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: but I'm not naive. I know the Dean's Banos loves 529 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: his savings account more than any other thing on God's 530 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: green Earth. Loves saving that money. So he didn't get 531 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. He didn't try to get Lincoln Riley. I 532 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: don't know, even though he's got this potential rocket ship 533 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: known as Justin Herbert. He went out and got Brandon Staley, who, 534 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: in fairness, was incredible last year as a defensive coordinator. 535 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: The only red flag. I have just only been a 536 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator one time in the league, and he's really 537 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: just been the league five years now. On a good 538 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, on on a bright note, Vic Fangio is 539 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: the guy that took him to the league, brought him 540 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: to the league from a small school, and then he 541 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: went on to be you know, kind of his apprentice, 542 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: his outside linebacker coach, which is a big deal for Fangio. 543 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: I've been around Fangio when he was with the nine. 544 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: Loves those pass rushers, and if he makes you his 545 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: outside linebackers coach, you can coach. And Sean McVeigh isolated him, 546 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 1: hired him and It was awesome, And I don't think 547 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh thought when he hired the guy that he'd 548 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: go on and become a head coach really quick. I 549 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: remember Mike Gundy started hiring these guys from like Division 550 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: two because he was tired of getting his coaches stolen. 551 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: I've been Sean McVeigh thought he had a diamond in 552 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: the rough, and then boom a year later, Dean Spans 553 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: making the head coach of the Chargers. Is this guy 554 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna be good head coach? Is he not? No one knows. 555 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: We have no freaking clue. I've listened to a couple 556 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: of podcasts with him and followed his career really closely, 557 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: at least last year as a defensive coordinator. He's really 558 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: really smart. But as we know, there is no you know, 559 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: true learning ground to become a head coach until you 560 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: become a head coach. But if this guy is good, 561 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: we all acknowledge. The Chargers have been a head coach 562 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: away the last several years from being really good and 563 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: the lynn they no longer have that excuse. They have 564 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: talent all over the field. They what looks like to 565 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: be a star young quarterback. I'm fascinated to watch this 566 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: playout because if he's just solid, I'm not looking for 567 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's first year. You know, if he can just 568 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: be solid, this team can win ten games. I can't 569 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: wait to watch just the Chargers operation to watch them play. 570 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: You know, can Justin Herbert? Does he take a step back? 571 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Does he get better? If Brandon Staley is good, they're 572 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: gonna be good. Like just because you're good as a 573 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: head coach, If you take over a shitty team, you 574 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: might lose a bunch of games first year, right, might 575 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: take you a little while. Now, if you're solid, like 576 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: Laflour has turned out to be, you get Aaron Rodgers boom. 577 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: You can win twenty six games and two years playing 578 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: back to back NFC championships. If you're Kyle Shanahan, you 579 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: take over the Dempster fire, there was the Niners. Takes 580 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: you a couple of years to get to the super Bowl, right, 581 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, I don't know if he has a Super 582 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: Bowl roster, but he has a good GM. He has 583 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: a ton of talent on there can and he just 584 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: get them to the playoffs. I don't think that's unrealistic 585 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: for them to be a playoff contender. Number two I 586 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: did not understand and I still do not understand because 587 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: I think he got nitpicked by a lot of the coaches. 588 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: Now maybe they'll turn out to be right. I don't 589 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: look at players from a coaching standpoint. I view them 590 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: from a big picture talent standpoint, and I would if 591 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: I was ever a general manager, if I was in 592 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: a draft room that needed a quarterback, I would have 593 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: been pushing Justin Fields. I might be wrong, but I'm 594 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: a sucker for physical attributes and talent, especially for a 595 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: guy that I've seen at the highest level have success. 596 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: Does he have some issues? Hell yeah, Josh Allen had 597 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of issues. Three years later, m VP candidate 598 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: his teams in the FC Championship game. If you can't 599 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: look at it through that lens, you're probably in the 600 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: wrong business. I get White coaches didn't like him. I 601 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: understand it. Kyle Shanahan not a huge fan. I I 602 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: understand it. Relative to the other guys. He like Mac 603 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: Jones more than Justin Fields. I disagree, but I understand it. 604 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: I think the Bears potentially got the steel of the 605 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: draft at twelve, not in a million years, when draft 606 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: Knights started and they were at pick number twenty. Did 607 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: they ever dream that Justin Fields would be on their 608 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: team when the night ended? Not in a million freaking years. 609 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: No one did. No one listening did I didn't. My 610 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: buddies and the Bears didn't listen. Lucky enough to have 611 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: a little inside information. He has looked very very good 612 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: at training camp. He should. He's physically very gifted. I 613 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: know they have really liked being around him. Now. I 614 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: get Andy Dalton's looked good too, but he should thrive 615 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: in a O T a situation. There's no pass rush. 616 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: I do not believe and listen, they don't know this. 617 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: I know a lot of Bears fans of DM me like, 618 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: why did Naggie say that? I just think he's trying 619 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: to take pressure off the young player. But I think 620 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: when the bullets start flying and the pass rushers can 621 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: actually tackle the quarterback, that's where Justin Fields should thrive. 622 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: And I think he'll pass the red rifle. Some call 623 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: him the red be begun very very quickly. I would 624 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: imagine Justin Fields just starting much quicker than anticipated. But 625 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: here's what we know. We get preseason games this year, 626 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to see Justin Fields on the field 627 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: against a live rush. I'll bet he looks good. I'll 628 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: bet he stands out and I think that is gonna 629 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: materialize from where the fans wanted to go. I e. 630 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: Justin Fields beat the starting quarterback much faster. But I 631 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: can't wait to watch Justin Fields in the Bears uniform. 632 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: And then the number one thing I am fascinated to 633 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: watch has to be Sean McVeigh and Matt Stafford. Matt 634 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: Stafford is one of the most unique players in NFL history. 635 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: Everyone in the league that has studied him closely thinks very, 636 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: very highly of them. He's a high character guy, he's 637 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: a physical freak, and he's produced. But he's always had 638 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: this crutch and we're gonna find out whether it's fair 639 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: or not that he played for the Detroit Lions. Like 640 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: if you've worked in the tech business the last some 641 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: of my friends that went to work in tech right 642 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: out of college I graduated in oh eight have made 643 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money I have. You know, I don't 644 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: want to give too much information just in case one 645 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: of them listening. I know someone who has had several 646 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: seven figure years. It's perfect timing. They got in at 647 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: the right time. If you work for an Oracle, if 648 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: you work for an Apple, if you work for a Facebook, 649 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: if you work for some of these companies and you 650 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: got in in the mid to late two thousand's, you 651 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: might have rode that rocket ship to riches. No one 652 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: like if you get if you get to play for 653 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, if you got to play for Belichick 654 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: over the last twenty years, if you got to play 655 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning, you have no excuses. If you go 656 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: play at Alabay them, if you go play at Ohio State, 657 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: you should be good. But if you play for the 658 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: Lions and we go you know, might have been Lions. 659 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: It might have been the Lions, right, it happens, and 660 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: like it definitely happens with draft prospects and bad schools. 661 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: You play like South Carolina, you know, you play at 662 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, Arizona, It's like, well' is the school. This 663 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: kid's talented. But eventually we find out. We're gonna find out. 664 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: With Matt Stafford. I'm a Matt Stafford fan. I think 665 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: he's really good and I think he's gonna be good 666 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: for Sean McVeigh. But here's there's pressure They traded multiple 667 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: first round picks, and that clearly didn't include this year 668 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: because they didn't have one. So they don't have a 669 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: first round pick for the next two years. All their 670 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: chips from the middle of the table. Their head coach, 671 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: who if you listen to flying coach, it's hard not 672 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: to be a show. I'm a Sean McVeigh fan. I 673 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: I really am, but I thought I'm not gonna say 674 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: it's unbecoming because I always say I appreciate raw and 675 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: real I hate political cliche bullshit. And Sean McVeigh was 676 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: very honest and so was less need And they talked 677 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: about Jared Goff unlike most people talk about their quarterback. 678 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 1: They were just outwardly kind of crushed the guy, and honestly, 679 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: he deserved it. They did nothing wrong, They just did 680 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: something that was not typical to the sport. Usually the 681 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: head coach. Now maybe they knew they were gonna be 682 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: able to trade them, but usually you're not very critical 683 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: of a guy you're paying all that money too, especially 684 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: a guy that you've had some success with. But they were, 685 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: and again I supported them. I just I've watched a 686 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: lot of rams games. He has not been very good. 687 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: The last couple of years and last year there were 688 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: several games against average opponents where he was terrible. I mean, 689 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: he was god awful. And when you're paying someone a 690 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: lot of money, your expectations are sky high, the entire packets, 691 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: not just on Sunday work ethic Monday through Saturday. Your 692 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: expectations are out of this world. And they got off 693 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: of them, which was one of the great pivots of 694 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: all time for Matt Staffort. But now there is like 695 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,959 Speaker 1: they were winning with Jared Goff. Say what you want. 696 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: Did he skip some balls on deep out routes? Did 697 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: he take some terrible sacks? Did he looked like a 698 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: low level player some of the time. Yes, they were 699 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: in the second round of the playoffs last year they 700 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: beat Now granted there weren't any fans there in one 701 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: of the loudest, you know, buildings stadiums in the league. 702 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: They went to Seattle and they beat the Pete Carroll 703 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson with Jared Goff with a bad hand. 704 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: So anything less like if they were to make the 705 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: playoffs again bounced in the wild card round, that would 706 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: be a disaster. I would say anything less for them 707 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: than an NFC championship. Birth is you're underachieving when you 708 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: factor in the price that was paid for everything, when 709 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: you factor in how open again, I love it? I 710 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: love it. But how he was about how happy is 711 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: it Stafford is here? And basically how happy is it? 712 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: Goff's gone? They have to be good now. I think 713 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: the fascinating part about the Rams is their defense was 714 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: elite last year. Like I said, Brandon Staleley is now 715 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: with the Chargers. They lost the safety Johnson is with 716 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: the Browns and they're margin forrere with Jalen Ramsey and 717 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Those guys gotta play seventeen weeks. Sometimes guys 718 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: get hurt, especially on defense, take a lot of collisions. 719 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: Can those guys stay healthy? There's their very top heavy team. 720 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: But I had someone DM me last week, what do 721 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: you think about Matt Stafford. I think it was like 722 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: eighteen to one or twenty to one to win the 723 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: m v P. I would say I like him more 724 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: next year. But if you tell me that the Rams 725 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: win twelve or thirteen games, he is a lock to 726 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: be in the conversation. Now we know there are a 727 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: lot of variables, like who else is playing well, how 728 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: their defense plays right, how he plays in prime time games. 729 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: Primetime games factors in. But I would say best case scenario, 730 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: he's definitely in the m v P conversation. Worst case scenario, 731 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, they win nine games, maybe maybe even tenant seven, 732 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: and they're like battling for that last wild card spot. 733 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: Their offense, my prediction, their offense is gonna be really good. 734 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: I think it has a chance to be exceptional. I 735 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be awesome. But the pressure in that building, 736 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: for for let's face it, there's the Rams, the Crown 737 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: Key is even paying attention, you know, there's It's not 738 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: this ain't Philly, this isn't New York. This is in Boston. 739 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: This isn't the Steeler's hell, that's not the Packers, this 740 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: isn't the Cowboys, but that there is tangible pressure with 741 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: this movement. And rightfully, So okay, we're gonna save the 742 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag for later this week, So you guys know, 743 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: the drill Middlecoff mail Bag at John Middlecoff is my 744 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: Instagram slide up in those d m s and we'll 745 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: do a lot on for Friday show. So Middlecoff mail 746 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: Bag this Friday at John middlecoff instap firing my d ms, 747 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: and you'll get your question answered. If not, I will. 748 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 1: I'll see everyone later this week. We're actually hearing me um, 749 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: and yeah, I have a great week, stay positive, and yeah, 750 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't really have anything else to say. Piece