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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: The world's longest snake has been found thirty two feet long.

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Speaker 2: That's a long snake.

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Speaker 1: That is a very very long snake. Lfs for sure.

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Speaker 1: So great stuff happening on the sorting out progressive policies

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Speaker 1: front and one in particular leapt out. It's not made

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Speaker 1: any well, not made many national headlines anyway, and I

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Speaker 1: became aware of it when our good friend Tim Sandefer

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Speaker 1: alerted us to it.

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Speaker 2: Tim the lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Sanderfer, vice president for Legal Affairs at the Goldwater Institute,

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Speaker 1: has written more books than I've read, only a slight exaggeration,

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Speaker 1: including Freedom's Furious How Isabel Patterson, Rose Wilder Lane nine

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Speaker 1: Rand founded Liberty in Age of Darkness, which is a

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Speaker 1: fascinating rate.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Tim, welcome, How are you, sir?

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Speaker 4: I'm great, Thanks for having me Bet, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you guys won a big victory in Arizona, and

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Speaker 1: maybe I just missed it, but I think it's a

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Speaker 1: little uncomfortable for the mainstream media to report why don't

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Speaker 1: you tell us about it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, you know, in Arizona, like many states, we had

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Speaker 5: a serious problem with an explosion in homelessness in recent years,

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Speaker 5: thanks in part to a crazy ruling by the Ninth

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Speaker 5: Circuit Court of Appeals that tied the hands of police

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Speaker 5: officers and local governments when it came to clearing out

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Speaker 5: encampments on the sidewalks and things. Well, the Supreme Court

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Speaker 5: overruled that, so that case has gone. But nevertheless, a

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Speaker 5: lot of city progressive city leaders really just thought that

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Speaker 5: the best thing to do was not to enforce laws

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Speaker 5: against camping on the sidewalk or on public property or

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Speaker 5: in public parks and things. And the result here in

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Speaker 5: Phoenix was the largest homeless encampment in the country. They

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Speaker 5: called it the Zone, a thousand people living in tents

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Speaker 5: in downtown Phoenix during the one hundred and twenty degree

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Speaker 5: summers during the COVID pandemic.

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Speaker 3: Well, doubt of the great I didn't realize. I didn't

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Speaker 3: realize that was the biggest homeless camp in America. Did

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Speaker 3: you witness it with your own eyes?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yes, and it's pretty. It's really something to see. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's fortunately it is largely cleared away now, but at

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Speaker 5: the time, I mean, we're talking about entire blocks where

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Speaker 5: people were just living in tents and doing drugs in

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Speaker 5: public and defecating and urinating in the streets and things,

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Speaker 5: and with the city refusing to do anything about it,

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Speaker 5: because that's what progressives consider to be compassionate right, is

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Speaker 5: to just let people just wallow in their filth when

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Speaker 5: they need help.

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Speaker 4: So what we did.

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Speaker 5: At the gold Winter Institute is we wrote a ballot

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Speaker 5: initiative and we said, look, if local governments are not

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Speaker 5: going to enforce the law and protect taxpayers the way

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Speaker 5: that they're supposed to x payers have to protect themselves

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Speaker 5: by installing bars on their windows or getting security cameras

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Speaker 5: or whatever, then they should at least get their tax

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Speaker 5: money back. And so voters overwhelmingly approved that at this

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Speaker 5: most recent election. And then it's called Prop three one

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Speaker 5: two here in Arizona that says, if the city refuses

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Speaker 5: to enforce these laws and creates a public nuisance like this,

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Speaker 5: they lose the tax money that was supposed to go

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Speaker 5: to your police protection that you're not getting and you

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Speaker 5: get that to deduct that from your tax.

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Speaker 4: Wow, we're going to.

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Speaker 5: Push this vallid initiative idea in other states. Now we're

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Speaker 5: starting with four states in the coming year and try

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Speaker 5: and get some responsibility out of these city officials.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That sound you hear is millions of Californians turning their

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, this is possible.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is that is so awesome and and logically

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Speaker 3: on when they've not lived up to the responsibility and

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Speaker 3: it's below the bar where it's just you know, this

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Speaker 2: There's going to be some homeless people around. Where's the cutoff.

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Speaker 5: No, that's a very good question, because we do you

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Speaker 5: can't just make them enforce every single law in every

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Speaker 5: the level of a public nuisance, which is a concept

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Speaker 5: that exists in state law in every state, and if

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Speaker 5: then the city's are liable. And we have said if

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Speaker 5: enforce a law in a particular circumstance, they can do

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Speaker 5: that as long as they give a written explanation of

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Speaker 5: have to explain why. But what's really happening in these

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Speaker 5: cities is just these blanket across the board ideas of well,

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Speaker 5: we're just never going to enforce the anti camping laws downtown,

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Speaker 5: and that's the thing that we're trying to push back on.

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Speaker 5: The real victims of those kinds of policies are both

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Speaker 5: the homeless people themselves who need help, even sometimes against

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Speaker 5: their will, and the taxpayers, the hardworking taxpayers of these

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Speaker 5: communities who pay their money hoping for police protection and then.

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Speaker 2: Go get it right. A couple of points.

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Speaker 1: Number one, I'm glad you summed it up the way

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Speaker 1: you did at the end, because so often these things

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Speaker 1: are seen first from the point of view of the

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Speaker 1: quote unquote homeless as opposed to everybody else who has

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Speaker 1: a specific and undeniable interest in having law and order

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Speaker 2: And it should be said that a huge.

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Speaker 1: Percentage of these people are simply drug addicts, and the

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Speaker 1: idea that you can cloak a bunch of drug addicts

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Speaker 1: living in filth and breaking the law in the righteous

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Speaker 1: garment of the poor, unfortunate who had medical bills they

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Speaker 1: couldn't pay. Therefore, society has no power interest in enforcing

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Speaker 2: That's just wrong. And think about what's been portrayed for

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Speaker 2: a long time.

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Speaker 5: Think about what these non enforcement policies do. Like here

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Speaker 5: in Phoenix, the zone included this one business, a sandwich shop,

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Speaker 5: that were owned by this couple named the Falacis. And

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Speaker 5: the Falangis were forced to become homelessness counselors, right because

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Speaker 5: what happens is these people will wander into the business,

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Speaker 5: scare away, the customers, threaten the employees, and so forth

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Speaker 5: and so on, and the Falangis are then forced to

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Speaker 5: intervene in some way. They're not trained to help people

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Speaker 5: And yet so by refusing to enforce the law, the

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Speaker 5: city was basically conscripting the Falacis into protecting themselves and

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Speaker 5: protecting their employees and protecting the general public and cleaning

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Speaker 4: Tax dollars are supposed to go for.

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Speaker 5: I mentioned the Selachis, by the way, because we just

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Speaker 5: this past weekend at the Goldwater Institute held our big

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Speaker 5: annual dinner, and we presented them with an award to

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Speaker 5: say thank you for standing up for your rights and

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Speaker 5: championing this ballot initiative Prop three point twelve that now

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Speaker 5: says if the city refuses to enforce these laws, then

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Speaker 5: it loses the tax money and people get to get

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad this is going this direction.

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Speaker 3: But like one thing, that's impossible to measure, because I

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Speaker 3: have a friend who owns a business in this situation.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have homeless in particular in front of his place,

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Speaker 3: but he's downtown where there's lots of homeless people, and

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Speaker 3: there's no way to measure how many people have decided

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Speaker 3: I don't go downtown anymore because of all the homeless.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, And a lot of these communities are

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Speaker 5: being destroyed by progressive policies that say, well, until you

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Speaker 5: refusing to do anything to mitigate the problem, and which

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Speaker 5: is crazy policy making. It reminds me of a lesson

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Speaker 5: I learned from a friend. One to you said, you

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Speaker 5: know you are judged by your second best policy option,

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Speaker 5: because if everybody had their first best policy option, you

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Speaker 5: would have utopia. You just wave your magic wand and

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Speaker 5: you'd have perfect society. Well, you have to accept that

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Speaker 5: a perfect society is never going to happen, and then

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Speaker 5: ask yourself what is second best and the second best option?

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Speaker 5: Since we will always have a homelessness problem forever, the

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Speaker 5: second best option is how do we help these people?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 5: What steps can we take realistically to help particular cases

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Speaker 5: and not just sit back and fold our arms and

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Speaker 5: say well, until we have socialist utopia, we refuse to

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Speaker 5: lift our fingers, which is the progressive approach to solving

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Speaker 5: the homeless problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I continue to reject the term homeless because when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the lazy and or the drug addicts,

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Speaker 1: the distinguishing characteristic of their lives is not the lack

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Speaker 1: And then back to my previous point, very briefly, because

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Speaker 1: you're the fascinating guest that I'd drawn on for hours

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Speaker 1: at a time. Is and this is purely an argument

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Speaker 1: in terms of effectiveness. If your first principle or your

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Speaker 1: first question is do we maintain law and order and

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Speaker 1: civilization and the answer is yes, then you break up

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Speaker 1: the camps, you send people away.

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Speaker 2: But wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: You have this man who's psychotic, it's not his fault,

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Speaker 1: or these people who couldn't afford their medical bills. Well,

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Speaker 1: having dispatched with the lazy, the bums and the junkies,

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Speaker 1: now we can help those people.

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Speaker 2: If we default first.

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Speaker 6: To compassion for the quote unquote homeless, we'll never get

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Speaker 6: to those people. You've got to be not cruel, but

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 4: No, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: And I say this as a person who has had

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Speaker 5: homelessness in his family. I've had homeless relatives. I think

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Speaker 5: most many of your listeners have probably had homeless relatives

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Speaker 5: that they can testify that what you said is absolutely true.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people need help, even when they don't

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Speaker 5: want it and don't see it out. They need intervention

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Speaker 4: And say thank you.

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Speaker 5: But I will tell you this, Joe, if your answer

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Speaker 5: to the question is of should we defend ordinary civilization

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Speaker 5: and enforced law and order, If your answer to that

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Speaker 5: question is yes, apparently you're some kind of extremist, reactionary

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Speaker 5: weirdo in today's world.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Well, you know, it's a multifaceted problem. All the

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Speaker 3: things we've mentioned, and then the homelessness industrial complex as

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Speaker 3: we call it, with the billions and billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: that are flying around. There's a lot of organizations getting

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Speaker 3: a lot of people making their living off of this,

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Speaker 3: and it not being solved gets them more money, not less.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and those are primarily government bureaucracies. I mean, when

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Speaker 5: the make it sorry welfare state was created in the

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Speaker 5: nineteen thirties, the argument for it was, well, private chair

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Speaker 5: hasn't solved the problem of poverty.

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Speaker 4: So we need to have government.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, now we've been we had a century now

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Speaker 5: where government is taking primary responsibility for the for poverty

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Speaker 5: and the poor and so forth.

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Speaker 4: Has it solved the problem? No? I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: We're in California, where half the homeless people in America live.

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Speaker 1: Here here, Tim Sander, for vice president for Legal Affairs

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Speaker 5: The idea that we can trust government to solve these

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Speaker 5: The question is why would you trust government even more

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Speaker 3: If rered lobster has all you can eat shrimp and

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Speaker 5: Whereas if government has all you know, gives away free

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Speaker 1: Now you know this is a book length answer, you

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Speaker 5: Well, it was a long term, gradual process, primarily through

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Speaker 5: So it was a slow process of corruption of the

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Speaker 1: Tim Sander for Vice president for Legal Affairs at the

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Speaker 1: Goldwater Institute Goldwater Institute, Well worthy of your support. You

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Speaker 1: can find them online very easily. Indeed, Tim, always enlightening.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the time, Thank you guys man. It's our pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Democrats win a couple of big elections where they've got

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Speaker 2: Now. Then you add to.

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Speaker 1: That the principle that if there's a benefit nobody ever

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Speaker 3: If you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and

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Speaker 3: Getty on demand.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 7: Step away from woke, focus less on who is woke

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Speaker 5: Social justice issues, and take a back seat when your

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Speaker 2: I feel like that last guy was really venting more

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Speaker 3: Everybody else had sort of a broader point, but.

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Speaker 2: His was just so specific. John Stewart is a master

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Speaker 3: His pause was the perfect length to the millisecond to

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Speaker 3: That's pretty good line though, from that guy who's lifting

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Speaker 2: Cuomo?

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Speaker 3: Chris Cuomo, your training partner, My training partner. Although he

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Speaker 3: took way more selfies than I was taking.

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Speaker 2: That was so funny. Uh, I've never seen anybody do

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Speaker 3: He get his pump on it, and he get the

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Speaker 2: Man? That is so foreign to me.

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Speaker 3: of reasons. Cryptocurrency keeps setting new records. Bitcoin broke another

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Speaker 2: It was sixty eight thousand a week ago.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I could have bought a handful of

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Speaker 2: I will not I'm not going to try either.

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm putting it in that category like climate change,

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Speaker 3: I'm not looking into bitcoin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wish i'd thrown a few bucks at

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Speaker 3: Oh good lord, And is that gonna last or I mean,

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Speaker 1: Sure, the amount of speculation in cryptocurrency too, So man,

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Speaker 3: And of course it can go the other direction the

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Speaker 3: He's gonna Secretary of State, a job first held by

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Speaker 2: On the contrary, I want you guys to get this.

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Speaker 8: I want them to destroy every element of hamas they

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Speaker 8: who did horrifying crimes, and I hope you guys post that.

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Speaker 2: What about the civilians? Every day?

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Speaker 8: Amasa stopped hiding behind civilians, putting civilians in the way.

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Speaker 9: So you don't care the fifteen thousand, you don't care

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Speaker 4: That's what I think.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you post that plane.

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Speaker 3: Marco Rubio not going to shrink from that or a

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Speaker 1: Three people familiar with this thinking set on Monday, cautioning

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a new Homeland Security Secretary, Christy Noome

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Speaker 2: Next to a pit. Tell you what rover she says, sit,

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Speaker 2: I'd go ahead and sit. Fetch means fetch Huh? Did

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Speaker 2: I stutter?

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Speaker 1: What I know?

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Speaker 3: You go?

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Speaker 2: I go ahead and fetch sniffing? Can wait that itch

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Speaker 3: I'd get to that later. You might want to sit. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is Trump willing to look past that unfortunate

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Speaker 3: if it weren't for that anecdote that ain't she included

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Speaker 3: in her autobiography.

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Speaker 2: But shooting the dog right, it's possible anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of his cabinet and specifically in the realm

451
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Speaker 1: of immigration, we will be getting into that again next hour.

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Speaker 1: If you don't get next hour, you got to do

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Speaker 1: something whatever, that's fine, just grab it later via podcast

454
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Speaker 1: Armstrong you're getting on demand.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you probably ought to just subscribe. Makes it easy.

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Speaker 3: Roll over now do the dishes thumbs figure it out? Wow,

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Speaker 3: too much now, West, She's.

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Speaker 2: Not messing around.

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Speaker 3: There's one other Oh I wanted to get to some

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Speaker 3: of these. Actually I haven't heard him yet because this

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Speaker 3: has been breaking while we're on the air today, some

462
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Speaker 3: of this stuff around the Trump legal cases trying to

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Speaker 3: do him in. Here's Andy McCarthy on Fox explaining some

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Speaker 3: of the latest developments.

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Speaker 2: Fifty one there, Michael. What's going to.

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Speaker 7: Happen is the Biden Harris administration is going to dismiss

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Speaker 7: the Trump cases. They've already sort of laid the groundwork

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Speaker 7: for that. Judge shuck In has said, I think December

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Speaker 7: second as a date for Smith's to get Jack Smith

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Speaker 7: to get back to her on how he sees the

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Speaker 7: case proceeding in the future. I think what he'll come

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Speaker 7: back with his emotion to dismiss the case.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. Now, which cases are those? Because I

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Speaker 3: don't have them all memorized. Which one's Chuckkin?

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Speaker 1: The federal ones, I think she's on documents classificat document

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Speaker 1: that's the one he was probably guilt for the election

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Speaker 1: interference and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But the federal stuff is over over over.

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Speaker 3: And the documents one was the one he was in

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Speaker 3: serious trouble on if he lost, probably arguably Yeah. And

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Speaker 3: then the whole Stormy Daniel thing. That was the one

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Speaker 3: where he had what was it forty felonies charged to

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Speaker 3: him or someone, yeah, convicted of thirty four felonies. Is

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Speaker 3: they reminded us over and over again in the final

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Speaker 3: days of the campaign, utterly phony, according to even the

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Speaker 3: most moderate of lefties, trumping up note pun intended of

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Speaker 3: local paperwork charges into somehow being felonies.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court was going to smack that. I'm not

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, the appeals court. He's going to smack

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Speaker 1: that down like that fella playing for the San Jose

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Speaker 1: State women's volleyball team. Just whack it out of the air.

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Speaker 1: And so the judge burchon on that is now looking

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Speaker 1: to say, maybe never mind on that case, avoiding the

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Speaker 1: humiliation of being overturned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, treat that like the Secretary of Homeland Security. Treat

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Speaker 3: to dogheat's chickens. That's what you do again with that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, barboy, Speaking of the volleyball player, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: been avoiding using this person.

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Speaker 2: One more Andy McCarthy on and then we'll be done

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Speaker 2: with this. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the other thing Andy McCarty he weighed in on

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Speaker 3: is the legal guy for National Review is on whether

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Speaker 3: or not Biden is going to pardon Hunter.

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Speaker 7: My sense of this is that, and I continue to

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Speaker 7: think this, even though the White House pushes back the

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Speaker 7: other way. I think that President Biden is going to

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Speaker 7: pardon his son, and that he will get a lot

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Speaker 7: of criticism if that's done in a vacuum because it's

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Speaker 7: a former self dealing. And he also said he wouldn't

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Speaker 7: do it, so he'll look terrible. But I think if

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Speaker 7: it's pitched to the country is kind of a clemency

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Speaker 7: package where we're turning the page from the Trump prosecutions

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Speaker 7: and turning the pati from the hunts of the country

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Speaker 7: will take it a lot better.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting, just emotionally. And yeah, you put those

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Speaker 3: all together. It's time to move on. All that stuff

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Speaker 3: about Trump and everything. Bygone's begun, end Hunter, and bygones

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Speaker 3: be bygones.

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Speaker 2: We got a new administration.

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Speaker 3: So the Trump cases, I'm going to end that, end Hunter,

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Speaker 3: and we'll just.

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Speaker 1: Million the millions of dollars that filtered into my family

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Speaker 1: through dozens of LC's from the communist Chinese and the

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Speaker 1: previous Ukrainian regime.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's not get hung up on that otherwise, can't

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Speaker 2: move on with the country's future. Okay, you're a loser.

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Speaker 2: What does what would Biden care?

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Speaker 3: What is this thirty seven percent approval rating going to

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Speaker 3: go down to twenty seven on his final month of

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Speaker 3: being president?

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Speaker 2: Who cares? He's going to be dead next year.

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Speaker 1: Probably, And any guy who can convince himself hete you

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Speaker 1: do another term, can convince himself that this.

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Speaker 2: Is the right move, right, sure, yeah, please.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I want to congratulate this transgender You know what,

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Speaker 1: oh man, don't have time for this tangent.

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Speaker 2: Be disciplined, joke, be disciplined.

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Speaker 1: The fellow that's playing on the San Jose State women's

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Speaker 1: volleyball team. And if you're new to this issue, you

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Speaker 1: might be thinking, wait a minute, there's a there's a

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Speaker 1: man playing on the team. Yeah, that's that's permitted in

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Speaker 1: some places these days.

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Speaker 2: I know it sounds crazy.

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Speaker 1: And they're underfellow, the Spartans, that's right, Blair. Is this

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Speaker 1: fellow's name? Congratulations Blair steadily breaking women's volleyball records at

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Speaker 1: San Jose State in spite of all of those games

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Speaker 1: that they've forfeited because the other teams don't want to

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Speaker 1: play against a women's team with a dude. For instance,

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Speaker 1: despite San Jose State's lost to San Diego State on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: San Diego State, you should not have played the game,

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Speaker 1: Blair achieved his two hundred and fiftieth kill shot, a

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Speaker 1: record that puts him in the upper reaches of women's volleyball.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize they lost.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he achieved that mark. In twenty twenty two, as

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Speaker 1: well as the first team year with the team. So

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, that's an incredible woman's volleyball player considering

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Speaker 1: they've had seven games canceled this season.

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Speaker 2: Will there be because of the forfeits?

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Speaker 3: Will there'll be an asterisk in the record book and

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Speaker 3: then you look down to the bottom page and next

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Speaker 3: to the asterisk it says has a penis?

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 1: It'll just say is a dude? Yeah, yeah, that's just great,

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, ladies.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that the.

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Speaker 1: Vast majority of quote unquote progressive women don't see this

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Speaker 1: as a women's right issue has just further deepened my

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Speaker 1: cynicism about mankind. But look at that men are better

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Speaker 1: at everything, including being women.

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Speaker 2: Oh you don't like the way that you don't like

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Speaker 2: the way that sits. We'll get on the right side

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Speaker 2: of this issue.

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Speaker 3: A great gift under your Christmas tree would be a

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Speaker 3: T shirt that says hot dogs are dogs from the

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Speaker 3: Armstrong ngetdy dot com website. That's right, part of our

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Speaker 3: fall collection, right with fall colors like whatever fall colors

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Speaker 3: are green and pumpkin spice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: San Jose State bravely also forcing aside the player and

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Speaker 1: assistant coach who joined in the Title nine lawsuit against

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Speaker 1: the Biden administrations. Really anyway, Yeah, this this fight is

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Speaker 1: nowhere near over for a return to sanity, but it's

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Speaker 1: starting to go pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Hey Hanson, is that clip from The Lady that runs NPR?

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Speaker 3: Is that new or was that old that Elon grabbed

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Speaker 3: and retweeted today?

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Speaker 2: It's old?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's old but good, That's what Hanson says.

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Speaker 2: That and other stuff on the way. Stay here, armstrong.

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Speaker 9: And in the wake of Donald Trump's historic win, there's

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Speaker 9: a new movement sweeping America. Disappointed women are actually swearing

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Speaker 9: off men.

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Speaker 5: There's no way I am letting any man near me

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Speaker 5: for the next few years.

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Speaker 9: They're saying no to dating, no to marriage, no to.

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Speaker 2: Sex celibacy at least to me, isn't that hard?

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Speaker 9: And no to having children like so many other women

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Speaker 9: in America who have been considering trying to get pregnant.

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Speaker 2: I woke up today and said, Nope, not anymore.

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Speaker 9: This woman is actually shaving her head in protest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm thinking some of you chicks didn't exactly have

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Speaker 3: a line outside your door before the election.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I was going to talk about the sociological

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Speaker 1: implications and electoral consequences. But Jack, we're going to personal shots.

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Speaker 1: That's disappointing U Roland Michael.

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Speaker 9: It's being called the four B movement, and women are

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Speaker 9: taking to social media declaring their allegiance. The four B

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Speaker 9: movement was actually started by women in South Korea back

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Speaker 9: in twenty nineteen as part of their version of the

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Speaker 9: Meet Too movement. The number four refers to dating, marriage, sex,

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Speaker 9: and children.

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Speaker 7: This movement is way more important now than ever.

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Speaker 9: Twenty six year old Alexa Argus joined the movement two

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Speaker 9: years ago and expects a surge of interest in the

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Speaker 9: wake of the Trump victory. So you in twenty twenty

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Speaker 9: two swore off dating forever.

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Speaker 4: Not forever.

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Speaker 9: We're not going to settle for low value men that

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Speaker 9: don't respect us anymore.

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Speaker 3: Boy, and are we men will just have to live

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Speaker 3: without you. I guess somehow her I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: mean women kind as a whole, I mean her right, Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So the uh I'm picturing historians looking back and saying.

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Speaker 1: And then the United States endured a huge drop in

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Speaker 1: the birth rate after three quarters of young women lost

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Speaker 1: their fing minds over a man called Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we need a woman's opinion.

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Speaker 10: Yes, if anybody could just hear me shaking my head. Uh,

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Speaker 10: low value men will go for those women, you know.

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Speaker 10: The feminist guys will be like, you're right, and then

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Speaker 10: they'll stick together and the rest of us alone.

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Speaker 2: The Tim Walls is of the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no kidding, mind your own business.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's Katie's cistern represented in the next clip.

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Speaker 9: But lots of women are mocking then no marriage, no

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Speaker 9: sex movement?

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Speaker 3: Why that woman was cutting her hair off?

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Speaker 4: Oh bold wild.

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Speaker 2: The fact of these crazes are out here.

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Speaker 4: They're like, we're not touching men.

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Speaker 2: I hope that means the more for me.

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Speaker 10: Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, and hey, if they're refusing to

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Speaker 10: have sex, they won't make more of.

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Speaker 2: Them the whole.

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Speaker 1: Any descent from my whole list of issues means you're

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Speaker 1: evil and I hate you. Totalitarian lefty movement. Right now,

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Speaker 1: How that gets unraveled and how quickly it is such

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Speaker 1: an interesting question to me, because it is, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's really it's it's counterproductive. It's counter happiness, it's counter sanity,

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Speaker 1: it's counter the way human beings have behaved for for

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Speaker 1: years and years outside of a cult environment.

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Speaker 3: And I'm more more than partly serious about that first

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Speaker 3: comment that no one think there's a line of guys

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Speaker 3: outside your door anyway. It is a sad version of

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Speaker 3: that crowd. It's like the in cell dudes on the

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Speaker 3: other side. You're doing the whole I don't like women

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Speaker 3: for these reasons because they weren't. They're not popular with

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Speaker 3: girls for whatever reasons of looks or personality or whatever,

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Speaker 3: and so they go with you can't fire me. I

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Speaker 3: quit sort of attitude that these women are doing, and

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Speaker 3: I think it gives you a shield against, you know,

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Speaker 3: the hurt that you're experiencing from for whatever reason not

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Speaker 3: being that desirable in.

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Speaker 2: Your current life.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I'm less likely to buy it, just

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Speaker 1: having seen the statistics on the percentage of Democrats, and

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Speaker 1: in particular women who will not be friends with dot

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Speaker 1: dot dot, will not date dot dot dot, won't even

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Speaker 1: patronize a business dot dot dot. That is a pretty

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Speaker 1: crazy way to live your life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say, what did that one person say about

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Speaker 3: shaving off your hair?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Bold, bold, all right? What is women have gone

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Speaker 2: full blown? Britney two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good for you, But we played the audio from

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Speaker 1: a young black man who's active with helping young boys

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Speaker 1: mentoring young boys in this community posted the two videos,

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Speaker 1: one in which he said, I've decided to vote for

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Speaker 1: Trump and the other I decided to vote for Kamala,

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Speaker 1: And the reactions to the two videos were completely different.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got the Nate Silver's screed who he said, look,

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Speaker 1: during a very easy even campaign, we put out newsletters

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Speaker 1: that say, hey, Trump is doing well, and some that

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Speaker 1: said hey Harris is doing well. And the vitriol and

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Speaker 1: hate they got it. They got anytime they said Trump

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Speaker 1: it was like, oh, that's interesting, y'all. Are are It's

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Speaker 1: like the classic description of holding a grudge. You take

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Speaker 1: poison and wait for the other person to die. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna make yourselves nuts. Don't make yourself nuts. Listen to

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Speaker 1: the Armstrong in Getty show. We do four hours every

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Speaker 1: single day. If you miss an hour or segment, or

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Speaker 1: you want to replay it for your friends and family,

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Speaker 1: you can find it in podcast form at Armstrong in

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Speaker 1: Geeddy dot com. No, you can't Armstrong in Getty on demand.

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Speaker 1: That's refine it or you can probably find it in

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Speaker 1: our website. I don't know where you find him. I

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Speaker 1: don't ever look forward. I'm here, I don't need to

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Speaker 1: listen to it.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the worst promos I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: What is the whovil knows?

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Speaker 1: It's very controversial and placks to scourge of plastic surgery.

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Speaker 2: That and more next hour if you get Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: Getty