WEBVTT - Episode Highlight: The OGs Shares How Desmond Barnes CHANGES The Magic

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Summer League nineteen eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you what like this, No, it will take

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<v Speaker 3>that up.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even lie to Sudden League when I was

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<v Speaker 4>like this, let this, Oh, I think Mike scored.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have had your mama, daddy and your agent

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<v Speaker 1>in the crowd. That's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>That was showing up.

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<v Speaker 2>It really looked exactly. It really looked hey and now jumping. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I love it for the game and I love

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<v Speaker 1>it for the game.

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<v Speaker 4>The NBA is the greatest machine in the world. They

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<v Speaker 4>keep building and growing, the talent keeps getting better. If

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<v Speaker 4>people hear stuff behind us is because it's the Lakers

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<v Speaker 4>in Dallas, Cooper Flag, BRODDI j going crazy behind us.

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<v Speaker 4>But this summer, this off season has been insane, my

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<v Speaker 4>brother has it. I mean when you talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About dam getting waved, KD getting traded, good point. There's

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<v Speaker 2>been power moves that normally don't happen. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Financial of the flexibility, we saw what Draymond of them said,

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<v Speaker 4>but the financial flexibility has hurt some of the free

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<v Speaker 4>agent not okay, see they put the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bag out there.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that pressed the guy man?

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<v Speaker 4>Come here, Sam, Come here, Sam?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, man, I mean, what can you say?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? I look around the league.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the KD deal. We know that had to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think Houston did an amazing job by

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<v Speaker 3>keeping their core together.

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<v Speaker 1>You still keep your boring, you extend him.

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<v Speaker 2>Lift sports man, your class.

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<v Speaker 1>Sad game. Yeah, you keep your Bari Smith. Obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>extend him.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out lift Walls, prathers.

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<v Speaker 3>Out out lift you, Uh fred out bring them back

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<v Speaker 3>for more years per year. You keep saying, keep him in.

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<v Speaker 3>You keep um Mad Thompson. Uh you know you bring

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<v Speaker 3>back Adams, go out to get Capella.

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<v Speaker 2>Offen up playing time for Reid who had on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know you got Red Shepherd keeps So I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you pretty much kept your core group of guys

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<v Speaker 3>in your future and guys and kept your leadership and

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<v Speaker 3>u D.

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<v Speaker 2>We both know this.

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<v Speaker 4>Championship teams have great defensive teams, but you still gotta

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<v Speaker 4>be able to score the basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>And Houston but the glaring, the glaring weakness.

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<v Speaker 4>Houston had Smith Drian Phinney Smith great addition, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>a quiet, smooth edition. But you go get the greatest

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<v Speaker 4>score in NBA history. In my opinion and Kevin Durant man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be a different that's gonna be a that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a dangerous team. Coach, let's coach list that leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>Love the coach Listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it like I'm wearing sunglasses for the first

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<v Speaker 4>time on the old geez. But I'm gonna keep my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>On them now.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that, you know, that's what shout out sunny.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably.

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<v Speaker 1>I love what they've done. And another team you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. Let's talk about different job.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow Wow, Cam Johnson, who people have been trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get every since he was, you know, in the trade

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<v Speaker 3>for Katie who was a huge part of that trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously. You know you love what Michael Porter Jr.

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<v Speaker 3>Does offensively, but he was a guy who, on the

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<v Speaker 3>other end, you get even get picked on something.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the guy who you would target a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times. I don't think you have that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey did I get targeted?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of times you did it. But that's not

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<v Speaker 3>your fault. Kill you know, it has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 3>with you. You got this plain something to me real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Why can't shoot his guard shooters.

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<v Speaker 2>Show? Because yard shooters we have the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how do y'all all get open on each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we do, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna get open on the floppy on another.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's a trick. It's a trick we're good at.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know stick.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know each other's trick.

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<v Speaker 4>But I understand that when it comes to wrestling, at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, all you're trying to create

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<v Speaker 4>that much advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can create that much advantage, you're gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>your job to get me open. And I know that.

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<v Speaker 3>It just feels like shooters can never go shoot, Like

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<v Speaker 3>how did he get over? But he did the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing you do.

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<v Speaker 4>The non shooters had a better time with non shooter.

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<v Speaker 4>Non shooters are more aggressive, their top heavy, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>can I can make a non shooter create something for me,

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<v Speaker 4>like I I ate off non shooters better than shooters.

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<v Speaker 1>Be honest, okay, I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean what you're talking about is white on white crime.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear what you saying on white crime. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>saying I never I shoots, cannot go on shooting. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand that fall from the same tree you

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<v Speaker 3>and do to him on one end, and he'll come

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<v Speaker 3>down to do the same to you that you just

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<v Speaker 3>did them?

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<v Speaker 1>How does that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>But the stoves hot don't touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, how does it happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Like he shot the gaff on the flop and you

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<v Speaker 3>flare it back, you know, you flare back for the three.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you come back down and now you shoot the

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<v Speaker 1>gap on the flop. Why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>And he just did? Because all shooters have bad feet?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Next next time, figure next time we're talking about we

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Cam Cam Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously you go back and you bring back Bruce Brown,

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<v Speaker 3>who was a fan favorite, killed us in the finals

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<v Speaker 3>that he was on some hero in the final. I

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<v Speaker 3>was about eleven to twelve games. I was a against

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<v Speaker 3>us in the final. So you know, you go, you

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<v Speaker 3>go bring him in. Timmy Junr, who is ignitable. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. He can get it going. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who he's see the shot, the ball going in.

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<v Speaker 3>He can run off four or five, six, seven threes

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<v Speaker 3>for you. You go get the big feller. He was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to hall last to Europe, but he can't go.

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<v Speaker 3>Nowhere is he coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>But hey boy, that listen man.

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<v Speaker 3>Every about twelve and eight, like sixteen minutes last year,

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<v Speaker 3>like you got to come here, boy, Like listen, as

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<v Speaker 3>great as Joker is, man he averaged about forty minutes

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<v Speaker 3>a game Playoffs last Yes, too much for.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody talk about Joker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's too much for anybody the great as

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<v Speaker 1>Joker is.

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<v Speaker 3>So you bring somebody in and even though he comes

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<v Speaker 3>out the game, you don't have to worry about And

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<v Speaker 3>he's not gonna do what he can.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna make.

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<v Speaker 3>Other guys as good offensively as Jokers, but as defense,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna hold this.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna hold his fun.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's gonna you know, if you give me

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<v Speaker 3>the ball in the post, you're gonna crab Jim with

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<v Speaker 3>your ass to death and make a jumper.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. He can make his free throw.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, He rebounds obviously, gonna put

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<v Speaker 3>him in action as the pick and rolls. But I

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<v Speaker 3>love that movie as well. So you know, Denver has

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<v Speaker 3>been criticized for being stale and not switching enup and

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<v Speaker 3>not having enough And I think they asked the bill where.

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<v Speaker 4>They talked about it last year is like the depth

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<v Speaker 4>was a problem. They din't playing enough guys they went

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<v Speaker 4>brought in their strengthen numbers now gives Joke, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>gives Joker a little bit of flexibility or the coaches

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<v Speaker 4>staff a little bit of flexibility in the playoffs to

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<v Speaker 4>not playing for the whole game.

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<v Speaker 3>Should think about him not sign an extension. Who Joker, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you think that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he ultimately does.

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<v Speaker 4>I I mean, listen, if he doesn't, it says a

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<v Speaker 4>lot because that's bread now. Yes, yes, that's real life

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<v Speaker 4>bread now, stuff we ain't seen before. There's not wonderbread.

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<v Speaker 4>It's real bread now. So I mean I think he

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately does. I mean I think they sit down and

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<v Speaker 4>talk about it. But at the same time, if he

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<v Speaker 4>does hold off next summer, he signs for a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more so maybe that's what he's looking at. And and

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<v Speaker 4>Joker has never been a guy that's worried about worried

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<v Speaker 4>about injury because he's not above the rim, but can't

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<v Speaker 4>worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>The horses at his bosses.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly you get to do it is this little dance or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever about the horse.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say this though, not to switch from east

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<v Speaker 4>to west back to the east, m but view Orlando magic,

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<v Speaker 4>mister Haslin, I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they Ortlanto Magical in the East next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me tell you this.

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<v Speaker 3>What I say about Orlando, I said, and I always

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<v Speaker 3>felt like this, Orlando was one player away, one guy away.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't or will say that Desmond Band is that

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<v Speaker 3>guy right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Can Desmond Band hoop? Hell, yeah, he can hoop, But

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<v Speaker 3>I have to see if he's that guy. But I

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<v Speaker 3>always felt Orlando was one player away.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard you say it. I heard you say it.

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<v Speaker 4>I gave you your flowers, not flowery, but I'll give

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<v Speaker 4>you your flowers. Self promotion, yeah, but big time flowery, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'll give you your flowers because you said it.

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<v Speaker 4>You said, what does Duncan Robinson do to Detroit? He

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<v Speaker 4>unlocks Cade, he gives them space. And it's not because

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<v Speaker 4>I represent the kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I think Paulo Bankcaro is a top five player.

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<v Speaker 1>A great against I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I think I think Paula Bankero is a

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<v Speaker 2>top five player in this league if you give him space.

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<v Speaker 4>And I always just say when I when we played

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<v Speaker 4>in Miami with Lebron and d Wade them. If you

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<v Speaker 4>give them an extra foot, that's like giving them that's

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<v Speaker 4>like giving them buckets, right, And so Desmond Bain does that.

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<v Speaker 4>Desmond Bain like, he might not have to he might

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<v Speaker 4>have to get twenty, he might not have to get

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<v Speaker 4>twenty to affect the overall part of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>You said it, you said it on TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Duncan Robinson can go out there and change the gravity

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<v Speaker 4>of the game and open up stuff for your star

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<v Speaker 4>players without effecting a box score at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So Desmond Bain, I think has the same effect. Now

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<v Speaker 2>do we do? We do?

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<v Speaker 4>We got to add some more to that, yes, But

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<v Speaker 4>when you start looking at Orlando, I said, we catch me,

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<v Speaker 4>catch me, catch it right. I'm but Orlando, Orlando. If

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<v Speaker 4>you look at the starting five right now and you

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<v Speaker 4>go Jalen Slugs, Desmond Bane, Polo Bank, Carrol Franz, Vagner,

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<v Speaker 4>Wendell Carter, I'm just telling you right now, man, And

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<v Speaker 4>you've always praised him defensively and doesn't Ban and doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>Ban's a dog too, so it's not like you're not

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<v Speaker 4>at a dog in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I am with an agreeance of everything you are saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Jesus, where's my wife?

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<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is I have to see it. Guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's that guy think he I think he fits well,

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<v Speaker 3>he's the guy I think. Listen by what means I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want no smokeing SHO wouldn't jail house working. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want no smokes So this ain't this ain't listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't trying to discredit anything desnib Bane is capable

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<v Speaker 3>of doing as a dog. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to see it. I want to see

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<v Speaker 3>it fit and I want to see it work. Just

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<v Speaker 3>oftentimes when guys don't work and guys don't fit doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean a guy can't play.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to see it work.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do believe they are one player away, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think Desie Band could be that player.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to see, you know why.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it though, And this is where I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think Desmion gets enough credit. Desmond Bain is like Dunk

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<v Speaker 4>in a gravity dude. Yes, but Desmond bin is also

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<v Speaker 4>a secondary prime ballhams. Desmond Bain coming out of college,

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<v Speaker 4>have very long arms. Yes, Desmond Bain's finishing package at

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<v Speaker 4>the Rim was elite and it still has been that way,

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<v Speaker 4>and you leave defensively. He's a dog, so like, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>he's gravity, which is great for Pollos and the Franzis

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<v Speaker 4>and the windows of the world, but he's also a

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<v Speaker 4>secondary ballhandle that helps Jalen sugs. You can rotate your

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<v Speaker 4>guys play seven eight guys, I really really and and

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<v Speaker 4>let me let me tell you this, and I mean this.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone jumped on it like they gave up way too

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<v Speaker 4>much for desnmon Bane.

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<v Speaker 2>No they did not.

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<v Speaker 4>In the NBA now and you're seeing through free agency

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<v Speaker 4>in the NBA now you have a two to three

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<v Speaker 4>year one way to be win championships. At the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, win loser, draw. Orlando's gonna reassess themselves

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<v Speaker 4>in two three years anyways, because no one wants to

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<v Speaker 4>pay the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Apron they're seeing with Boston. So when you start adding that,

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<v Speaker 2>I know mean youalk about this all time.

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<v Speaker 4>You started adding the financial flexibilities in there, like to me, go,

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<v Speaker 4>all in East is vulnerable right now. And guess what

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<v Speaker 4>as good as Oklahoma City is, Tylers, how burd does

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<v Speaker 4>get hurt?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows what happens?

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<v Speaker 1>What happens? This is true, This is true. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I will say about desnel.

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<v Speaker 2>Bin is he's to take my sunglasses off.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say about desbel Bain is I was impressed

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<v Speaker 3>he had to handle it. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>his and Memphis was playing well at that time being out,

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<v Speaker 3>so I have seen that part of the game and

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<v Speaker 3>he can't do that.

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