Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I was in Summer League nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3: I tell you what like this, No, it will take
Speaker 3: that up.
Speaker 4: I don't even lie to Sudden League when I was
Speaker 4: like this, let this, Oh, I think Mike scored.
Speaker 1: You might have had your mama, daddy and your agent
Speaker 1: in the crowd. That's about it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: That was showing up.
Speaker 2: It really looked exactly. It really looked hey and now jumping. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, I love it for the game and I love
Speaker 1: it for the game.
Speaker 4: The NBA is the greatest machine in the world. They
Speaker 4: keep building and growing, the talent keeps getting better. If
Speaker 4: people hear stuff behind us is because it's the Lakers
Speaker 4: in Dallas, Cooper Flag, BRODDI j going crazy behind us.
Speaker 4: But this summer, this off season has been insane, my
Speaker 4: brother has it. I mean when you talk.
Speaker 2: About dam getting waved, KD getting traded, good point. There's
Speaker 2: been power moves that normally don't happen. Now.
Speaker 4: Financial of the flexibility, we saw what Draymond of them said,
Speaker 4: but the financial flexibility has hurt some of the free
Speaker 4: agent not okay, see they put the.
Speaker 2: Bag out there.
Speaker 1: What is that pressed the guy man?
Speaker 4: Come here, Sam, Come here, Sam?
Speaker 1: Hey, man, I mean, what can you say?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I look around the league.
Speaker 3: You know the KD deal. We know that had to happen.
Speaker 3: You know, I think Houston did an amazing job by
Speaker 3: keeping their core together.
Speaker 1: You still keep your boring, you extend him.
Speaker 2: Lift sports man, your class.
Speaker 1: Sad game. Yeah, you keep your Bari Smith. Obviously you
Speaker 1: extend him.
Speaker 2: Shout out lift Walls, prathers.
Speaker 3: Out out lift you, Uh fred out bring them back
Speaker 3: for more years per year. You keep saying, keep him in.
Speaker 3: You keep um Mad Thompson. Uh you know you bring
Speaker 3: back Adams, go out to get Capella.
Speaker 2: Offen up playing time for Reid who had on the show.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know you got Red Shepherd keeps So I
Speaker 3: mean you pretty much kept your core group of guys
Speaker 3: in your future and guys and kept your leadership and
Speaker 3: u D.
Speaker 2: We both know this.
Speaker 4: Championship teams have great defensive teams, but you still gotta
Speaker 4: be able to score the basketball.
Speaker 2: And Houston but the glaring, the glaring weakness.
Speaker 4: Houston had Smith Drian Phinney Smith great addition, by the way,
Speaker 4: a quiet, smooth edition. But you go get the greatest
Speaker 4: score in NBA history. In my opinion and Kevin Durant man.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a different that's gonna be a that's
Speaker 2: gonna be a dangerous team. Coach, let's coach list that leadership.
Speaker 1: Love the coach Listen.
Speaker 4: I love it like I'm wearing sunglasses for the first
Speaker 4: time on the old geez. But I'm gonna keep my eyes.
Speaker 1: On them now.
Speaker 4: I like that, you know, that's what shout out sunny.
Speaker 2: Probably.
Speaker 1: I love what they've done. And another team you gotta
Speaker 1: talk about. Let's talk about different job.
Speaker 3: Wow Wow, Cam Johnson, who people have been trying to
Speaker 3: get every since he was, you know, in the trade
Speaker 3: for Katie who was a huge part of that trade.
Speaker 1: Obviously. You know you love what Michael Porter Jr.
Speaker 3: Does offensively, but he was a guy who, on the
Speaker 3: other end, you get even get picked on something.
Speaker 1: He was the guy who you would target a lot
Speaker 1: of times. I don't think you have that.
Speaker 2: Hey did I get targeted?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: A lot of times you did it. But that's not
Speaker 3: your fault. Kill you know, it has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with you. You got this plain something to me real quick.
Speaker 3: Why can't shoot his guard shooters.
Speaker 2: Show? Because yard shooters we have the problem.
Speaker 1: Well, how do y'all all get open on each other.
Speaker 2: Because we do, they're.
Speaker 1: Gonna get open on the floppy on another.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a trick. It's a trick we're good at.
Speaker 2: I don't know stick.
Speaker 1: You don't know each other's trick.
Speaker 4: But I understand that when it comes to wrestling, at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, all you're trying to create
Speaker 4: that much advantage.
Speaker 2: If I can create that much advantage, you're gonna do
Speaker 2: your job to get me open. And I know that.
Speaker 3: It just feels like shooters can never go shoot, Like
Speaker 3: how did he get over? But he did the same
Speaker 3: thing you do.
Speaker 4: The non shooters had a better time with non shooter.
Speaker 4: Non shooters are more aggressive, their top heavy, Like I
Speaker 4: can I can make a non shooter create something for me,
Speaker 4: like I I ate off non shooters better than shooters.
Speaker 1: Be honest, okay, I get that.
Speaker 2: I mean what you're talking about is white on white crime.
Speaker 3: I hear what you saying on white crime. I'm just
Speaker 3: saying I never I shoots, cannot go on shooting. And
Speaker 3: I don't understand that fall from the same tree you
Speaker 3: and do to him on one end, and he'll come
Speaker 3: down to do the same to you that you just
Speaker 3: did them?
Speaker 1: How does that happen?
Speaker 2: But the stoves hot don't touch.
Speaker 1: Like, how does it happen?
Speaker 3: Like he shot the gaff on the flop and you
Speaker 3: flare it back, you know, you flare back for the three.
Speaker 1: Now you come back down and now you shoot the
Speaker 1: gap on the flop. Why would you do that?
Speaker 2: And he just did? Because all shooters have bad feet?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Next next time, figure next time we're talking about we
Speaker 3: were talking about talking about that.
Speaker 1: I mean Cam Cam Johnson.
Speaker 3: Obviously you go back and you bring back Bruce Brown,
Speaker 3: who was a fan favorite, killed us in the finals
Speaker 3: that he was on some hero in the final. I
Speaker 3: was about eleven to twelve games. I was a against
Speaker 3: us in the final. So you know, you go, you
Speaker 3: go bring him in. Timmy Junr, who is ignitable. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He can get it going. He's
Speaker 3: a guy who he's see the shot, the ball going in.
Speaker 3: He can run off four or five, six, seven threes
Speaker 3: for you. You go get the big feller. He was
Speaker 3: trying to hall last to Europe, but he can't go.
Speaker 3: Nowhere is he coming back?
Speaker 1: But hey boy, that listen man.
Speaker 3: Every about twelve and eight, like sixteen minutes last year,
Speaker 3: like you got to come here, boy, Like listen, as
Speaker 3: great as Joker is, man he averaged about forty minutes
Speaker 3: a game Playoffs last Yes, too much for.
Speaker 2: Anybody talk about Joker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's too much for anybody the great as
Speaker 1: Joker is.
Speaker 3: So you bring somebody in and even though he comes
Speaker 3: out the game, you don't have to worry about And
Speaker 3: he's not gonna do what he can.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make.
Speaker 3: Other guys as good offensively as Jokers, but as defense,
Speaker 3: he's gonna hold this.
Speaker 1: He's gonna hold his fun.
Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna you know, if you give me
Speaker 3: the ball in the post, you're gonna crab Jim with
Speaker 3: your ass to death and make a jumper.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He can make his free throw.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, He rebounds obviously, gonna put
Speaker 3: him in action as the pick and rolls. But I
Speaker 3: love that movie as well. So you know, Denver has
Speaker 3: been criticized for being stale and not switching enup and
Speaker 3: not having enough And I think they asked the bill where.
Speaker 4: They talked about it last year is like the depth
Speaker 4: was a problem. They din't playing enough guys they went
Speaker 4: brought in their strengthen numbers now gives Joke, like you said,
Speaker 4: gives Joker a little bit of flexibility or the coaches
Speaker 4: staff a little bit of flexibility in the playoffs to
Speaker 4: not playing for the whole game.
Speaker 3: Should think about him not sign an extension. Who Joker, Yes,
Speaker 3: you think that's it.
Speaker 2: I think he ultimately does.
Speaker 4: I I mean, listen, if he doesn't, it says a
Speaker 4: lot because that's bread now. Yes, yes, that's real life
Speaker 4: bread now, stuff we ain't seen before. There's not wonderbread.
Speaker 4: It's real bread now. So I mean I think he
Speaker 4: ultimately does. I mean I think they sit down and
Speaker 4: talk about it. But at the same time, if he
Speaker 4: does hold off next summer, he signs for a lot
Speaker 4: more so maybe that's what he's looking at. And and
Speaker 4: Joker has never been a guy that's worried about worried
Speaker 4: about injury because he's not above the rim, but can't
Speaker 4: worry about.
Speaker 1: The horses at his bosses.
Speaker 3: Exactly you get to do it is this little dance or
Speaker 3: whatever about the horse.
Speaker 4: I will say this though, not to switch from east
Speaker 4: to west back to the east, m but view Orlando magic,
Speaker 4: mister Haslin, I think that.
Speaker 2: I think they Ortlanto Magical in the East next year.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me tell you this.
Speaker 3: What I say about Orlando, I said, and I always
Speaker 3: felt like this, Orlando was one player away, one guy away.
Speaker 3: I won't or will say that Desmond Band is that
Speaker 3: guy right now.
Speaker 2: I will say it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Can Desmond Band hoop? Hell, yeah, he can hoop, But
Speaker 3: I have to see if he's that guy. But I
Speaker 3: always felt Orlando was one player away.
Speaker 2: Coach.
Speaker 4: I heard you say it. I heard you say it.
Speaker 4: I gave you your flowers, not flowery, but I'll give
Speaker 4: you your flowers. Self promotion, yeah, but big time flowery, unbelievable.
Speaker 4: But I'll give you your flowers because you said it.
Speaker 4: You said, what does Duncan Robinson do to Detroit? He
Speaker 4: unlocks Cade, he gives them space. And it's not because
Speaker 4: I represent the kid.
Speaker 2: I think. I think Paulo Bankcaro is a top five player.
Speaker 1: A great against I am.
Speaker 2: I am. I think I think Paula Bankero is a
Speaker 2: top five player in this league if you give him space.
Speaker 4: And I always just say when I when we played
Speaker 4: in Miami with Lebron and d Wade them. If you
Speaker 4: give them an extra foot, that's like giving them that's
Speaker 4: like giving them buckets, right, And so Desmond Bain does that.
Speaker 4: Desmond Bain like, he might not have to he might
Speaker 4: have to get twenty, he might not have to get
Speaker 4: twenty to affect the overall part of the game.
Speaker 2: You said it, you said it on TV.
Speaker 4: Duncan Robinson can go out there and change the gravity
Speaker 4: of the game and open up stuff for your star
Speaker 4: players without effecting a box score at all.
Speaker 2: So Desmond Bain, I think has the same effect. Now
Speaker 2: do we do? We do?
Speaker 4: We got to add some more to that, yes, But
Speaker 4: when you start looking at Orlando, I said, we catch me,
Speaker 4: catch me, catch it right. I'm but Orlando, Orlando. If
Speaker 4: you look at the starting five right now and you
Speaker 4: go Jalen Slugs, Desmond Bane, Polo Bank, Carrol Franz, Vagner,
Speaker 4: Wendell Carter, I'm just telling you right now, man, And
Speaker 4: you've always praised him defensively and doesn't Ban and doesn't
Speaker 4: Ban's a dog too, so it's not like you're not
Speaker 4: at a dog in there.
Speaker 1: I am with an agreeance of everything you are saying.
Speaker 2: Thank you Jesus, where's my wife?
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I have to see it. Guy.
Speaker 3: He's that guy think he I think he fits well,
Speaker 3: he's the guy I think. Listen by what means I
Speaker 3: don't want no smokeing SHO wouldn't jail house working. I
Speaker 3: don't want no smokes So this ain't this ain't listen.
Speaker 3: I ain't trying to discredit anything desnib Bane is capable
Speaker 3: of doing as a dog. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I just want to see it. I want to see
Speaker 3: it fit and I want to see it work. Just
Speaker 3: oftentimes when guys don't work and guys don't fit doesn't
Speaker 3: mean a guy can't play.
Speaker 1: I just want to see it work.
Speaker 3: But I do believe they are one player away, and
Speaker 3: I think Desie Band could be that player.
Speaker 1: You just have to see, you know why.
Speaker 4: I like it though, And this is where I don't
Speaker 4: think Desmion gets enough credit. Desmond Bain is like Dunk
Speaker 4: in a gravity dude. Yes, but Desmond bin is also
Speaker 4: a secondary prime ballhams. Desmond Bain coming out of college,
Speaker 4: no one thought because he has small he is doesn't
Speaker 4: have very long arms. Yes, Desmond Bain's finishing package at
Speaker 4: the Rim was elite and it still has been that way,
Speaker 4: and you leave defensively. He's a dog, so like, yes,
Speaker 4: he's gravity, which is great for Pollos and the Franzis
Speaker 4: and the windows of the world, but he's also a
Speaker 4: secondary ballhandle that helps Jalen sugs. You can rotate your
Speaker 4: guys play seven eight guys, I really really and and
Speaker 4: let me let me tell you this, and I mean this.
Speaker 4: Everyone jumped on it like they gave up way too
Speaker 4: much for desnmon Bane.
Speaker 2: No they did not.
Speaker 4: In the NBA now and you're seeing through free agency
Speaker 4: in the NBA now you have a two to three
Speaker 4: year one way to be win championships. At the end
Speaker 4: of the day, win loser, draw. Orlando's gonna reassess themselves
Speaker 4: in two three years anyways, because no one wants to
Speaker 4: pay the second.
Speaker 2: Apron they're seeing with Boston. So when you start adding that,
Speaker 2: I know mean youalk about this all time.
Speaker 4: You started adding the financial flexibilities in there, like to me, go,
Speaker 4: all in East is vulnerable right now. And guess what
Speaker 4: as good as Oklahoma City is, Tylers, how burd does
Speaker 4: get hurt?
Speaker 2: Who knows what happens?
Speaker 1: What happens? This is true, This is true. And what
Speaker 1: I will say about desnel.
Speaker 2: Bin is he's to take my sunglasses off.
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm giving you your flowers because I'm rapping. Because what
Speaker 3: I will say about desbel Bain is I was impressed
Speaker 3: with his ball handling, especially last year when Joah got hurt,
Speaker 3: he had to handle it. You know, a lot of
Speaker 3: the ball handling was, you know, his responsibility. I was
Speaker 3: impressed with his ball handed and his playmaking and how
Speaker 3: he was able to get other guys involved still get
Speaker 3: his and Memphis was playing well at that time being out,
Speaker 3: so I have seen that part of the game and
Speaker 3: he can't do that.
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