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Speaker 2: I was in Summer League nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what like this, No, it will take

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Speaker 4: I don't even lie to Sudden League when I was

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Speaker 4: like this, let this, Oh, I think Mike scored.

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Speaker 1: You might have had your mama, daddy and your agent

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Speaker 2: It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: That was showing up.

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Speaker 2: It really looked exactly. It really looked hey and now jumping. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, I love it for the game and I love

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Speaker 4: The NBA is the greatest machine in the world. They

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Speaker 4: keep building and growing, the talent keeps getting better. If

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Speaker 4: people hear stuff behind us is because it's the Lakers

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Speaker 4: in Dallas, Cooper Flag, BRODDI j going crazy behind us.

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Speaker 4: But this summer, this off season has been insane, my

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Speaker 4: brother has it. I mean when you talk.

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Speaker 2: About dam getting waved, KD getting traded, good point. There's

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Speaker 2: been power moves that normally don't happen. Now.

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Speaker 4: Financial of the flexibility, we saw what Draymond of them said,

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Speaker 4: but the financial flexibility has hurt some of the free

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Speaker 4: agent not okay, see they put the.

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Speaker 2: Bag out there.

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Speaker 1: What is that pressed the guy man?

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Speaker 4: Come here, Sam, Come here, Sam?

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Speaker 1: Hey, man, I mean, what can you say?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I look around the league.

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Speaker 3: You know the KD deal. We know that had to happen.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think Houston did an amazing job by

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Speaker 3: keeping their core together.

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Speaker 1: You still keep your boring, you extend him.

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Speaker 2: Lift sports man, your class.

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Speaker 1: Sad game. Yeah, you keep your Bari Smith. Obviously you

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Speaker 1: extend him.

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Speaker 2: Shout out lift Walls, prathers.

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Speaker 3: Out out lift you, Uh fred out bring them back

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Speaker 3: for more years per year. You keep saying, keep him in.

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Speaker 3: You keep um Mad Thompson. Uh you know you bring

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Speaker 3: back Adams, go out to get Capella.

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Speaker 2: Offen up playing time for Reid who had on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know you got Red Shepherd keeps So I

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Speaker 3: mean you pretty much kept your core group of guys

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Speaker 3: in your future and guys and kept your leadership and

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Speaker 2: We both know this.

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Speaker 4: Championship teams have great defensive teams, but you still gotta

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Speaker 4: be able to score the basketball.

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Speaker 2: And Houston but the glaring, the glaring weakness.

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Speaker 4: Houston had Smith Drian Phinney Smith great addition, by the way,

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Speaker 4: a quiet, smooth edition. But you go get the greatest

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Speaker 4: score in NBA history. In my opinion and Kevin Durant man.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a different that's gonna be a that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a dangerous team. Coach, let's coach list that leadership.

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Speaker 1: Love the coach Listen.

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Speaker 4: I love it like I'm wearing sunglasses for the first

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Speaker 4: time on the old geez. But I'm gonna keep my eyes.

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Speaker 1: On them now.

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Speaker 4: I like that, you know, that's what shout out sunny.

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Speaker 2: Probably.

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Speaker 1: I love what they've done. And another team you gotta

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Speaker 1: talk about. Let's talk about different job.

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Speaker 3: Wow Wow, Cam Johnson, who people have been trying to

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Speaker 3: get every since he was, you know, in the trade

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Speaker 3: for Katie who was a huge part of that trade.

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Speaker 1: Obviously. You know you love what Michael Porter Jr.

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Speaker 3: Does offensively, but he was a guy who, on the

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Speaker 1: He was the guy who you would target a lot

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Speaker 1: of times. I don't think you have that.

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Speaker 2: Hey did I get targeted?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: A lot of times you did it. But that's not

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Speaker 3: your fault. Kill you know, it has nothing to do

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Speaker 3: with you. You got this plain something to me real quick.

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Speaker 3: Why can't shoot his guard shooters.

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Speaker 2: Show? Because yard shooters we have the problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, how do y'all all get open on each other.

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Speaker 2: Because we do, they're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna get open on the floppy on another.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's a trick. It's a trick we're good at.

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Speaker 2: I don't know stick.

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Speaker 1: You don't know each other's trick.

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Speaker 4: But I understand that when it comes to wrestling, at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, all you're trying to create

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Speaker 2: If I can create that much advantage, you're gonna do

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Speaker 3: It just feels like shooters can never go shoot, Like

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Speaker 4: The non shooters had a better time with non shooter.

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Speaker 4: Non shooters are more aggressive, their top heavy, Like I

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Speaker 4: can I can make a non shooter create something for me,

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Speaker 4: like I I ate off non shooters better than shooters.

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Speaker 2: I mean what you're talking about is white on white crime.

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Speaker 1: How does that happen?

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Speaker 2: But the stoves hot don't touch.

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Speaker 3: Like he shot the gaff on the flop and you

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Speaker 3: flare it back, you know, you flare back for the three.

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Speaker 2: And he just did? Because all shooters have bad feet?

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Speaker 3: Next next time, figure next time we're talking about we

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Speaker 3: Obviously you go back and you bring back Bruce Brown,

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Speaker 3: go bring him in. Timmy Junr, who is ignitable. You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He can get it going. He's

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Speaker 3: He can run off four or five, six, seven threes

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Speaker 3: for you. You go get the big feller. He was

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Speaker 3: trying to hall last to Europe, but he can't go.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere is he coming back?

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Speaker 1: But hey boy, that listen man.

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Speaker 3: Every about twelve and eight, like sixteen minutes last year,

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Speaker 3: like you got to come here, boy, Like listen, as

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Speaker 3: great as Joker is, man he averaged about forty minutes

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Speaker 3: a game Playoffs last Yes, too much for.

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Speaker 2: Anybody talk about Joker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's too much for anybody the great as

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Speaker 1: Joker is.

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Speaker 3: So you bring somebody in and even though he comes

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Speaker 3: out the game, you don't have to worry about And

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Speaker 3: he's not gonna do what he can.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna make.

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Speaker 3: Other guys as good offensively as Jokers, but as defense,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna hold this.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna hold his fun.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna you know, if you give me

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He can make his free throw.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, He rebounds obviously, gonna put

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Speaker 3: love that movie as well. So you know, Denver has

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Speaker 3: not having enough And I think they asked the bill where.

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Speaker 4: They talked about it last year is like the depth

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Speaker 4: was a problem. They din't playing enough guys they went

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Speaker 4: brought in their strengthen numbers now gives Joke, like you said,

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Speaker 4: gives Joker a little bit of flexibility or the coaches

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Speaker 4: not playing for the whole game.

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Speaker 3: Should think about him not sign an extension. Who Joker, Yes,

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Speaker 3: you think that's it.

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Speaker 2: I think he ultimately does.

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Speaker 4: I I mean, listen, if he doesn't, it says a

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Speaker 4: lot because that's bread now. Yes, yes, that's real life

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Speaker 4: bread now, stuff we ain't seen before. There's not wonderbread.

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Speaker 4: It's real bread now. So I mean I think he

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Speaker 4: more so maybe that's what he's looking at. And and

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Speaker 4: Joker has never been a guy that's worried about worried

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Speaker 1: The horses at his bosses.

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Speaker 3: Exactly you get to do it is this little dance or

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Speaker 4: I will say this though, not to switch from east

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Speaker 4: mister Haslin, I think that.

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Speaker 2: I think they Ortlanto Magical in the East next year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me tell you this.

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Speaker 3: What I say about Orlando, I said, and I always

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Speaker 3: I won't or will say that Desmond Band is that

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Speaker 2: I will say it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Can Desmond Band hoop? Hell, yeah, he can hoop, But

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Speaker 3: I have to see if he's that guy. But I

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Speaker 2: Coach.

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Speaker 4: I heard you say it. I heard you say it.

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Speaker 4: I gave you your flowers, not flowery, but I'll give

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Speaker 4: you your flowers. Self promotion, yeah, but big time flowery, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: But I'll give you your flowers because you said it.

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Speaker 4: You said, what does Duncan Robinson do to Detroit? He

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Speaker 4: unlocks Cade, he gives them space. And it's not because

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Speaker 4: I represent the kid.

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Speaker 2: I think. I think Paulo Bankcaro is a top five player.

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Speaker 1: A great against I am.

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Speaker 2: I am. I think I think Paula Bankero is a

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Speaker 4: And I always just say when I when we played

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Speaker 4: like giving them buckets, right, And so Desmond Bain does that.

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Speaker 4: Desmond Bain like, he might not have to he might

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Speaker 4: have to get twenty, he might not have to get

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Speaker 2: You said it, you said it on TV.

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Speaker 4: Duncan Robinson can go out there and change the gravity

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Speaker 4: of the game and open up stuff for your star

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Speaker 4: players without effecting a box score at all.

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Speaker 2: So Desmond Bain, I think has the same effect. Now

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Speaker 4: We got to add some more to that, yes, But

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Speaker 4: when you start looking at Orlando, I said, we catch me,

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Speaker 4: catch me, catch it right. I'm but Orlando, Orlando. If

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Speaker 4: Wendell Carter, I'm just telling you right now, man, And

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Speaker 4: you've always praised him defensively and doesn't Ban and doesn't

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Speaker 4: Ban's a dog too, so it's not like you're not

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Speaker 1: I am with an agreeance of everything you are saying.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Jesus, where's my wife?

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I have to see it. Guy.

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Speaker 3: He's that guy think he I think he fits well,

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Speaker 3: he's the guy I think. Listen by what means I

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Speaker 3: don't want no smokeing SHO wouldn't jail house working. I

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Speaker 3: don't want no smokes So this ain't this ain't listen.

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Speaker 3: I ain't trying to discredit anything desnib Bane is capable

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Speaker 3: of doing as a dog. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see it. I want to see

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Speaker 3: it fit and I want to see it work. Just

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Speaker 3: oftentimes when guys don't work and guys don't fit doesn't

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Speaker 1: I just want to see it work.

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Speaker 3: But I do believe they are one player away, and

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Speaker 3: I think Desie Band could be that player.

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Speaker 1: You just have to see, you know why.

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Speaker 4: I like it though, And this is where I don't

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Speaker 4: think Desmion gets enough credit. Desmond Bain is like Dunk

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Speaker 4: in a gravity dude. Yes, but Desmond bin is also

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Speaker 4: a secondary prime ballhams. Desmond Bain coming out of college,

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Speaker 4: and you leave defensively. He's a dog, so like, yes,

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Speaker 4: he's gravity, which is great for Pollos and the Franzis

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Speaker 4: guys play seven eight guys, I really really and and

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Speaker 4: let me let me tell you this, and I mean this.

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Speaker 4: Everyone jumped on it like they gave up way too

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Speaker 2: No they did not.

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Speaker 4: In the NBA now and you're seeing through free agency

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Speaker 4: year one way to be win championships. At the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, win loser, draw. Orlando's gonna reassess themselves

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Speaker 2: Apron they're seeing with Boston. So when you start adding that,

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Speaker 2: I know mean youalk about this all time.

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Speaker 4: You started adding the financial flexibilities in there, like to me, go,

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Speaker 4: all in East is vulnerable right now. And guess what

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Speaker 2: Who knows what happens?

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Speaker 1: What happens? This is true, This is true. And what

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