WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 14 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:12.400 It is Monday, December fourteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.040 Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by Jet Home Loans 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.640 and now a guy who's finally figured out a way 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:27.680 to get a word in edgewise. Jay Peace, Shadrack, Welcome 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:32.120 in Jaguars Happy Hour, and that is because we are 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:38.200 Busselly Free tonight, j P. Shadrick, Pete Friscoe, CBS Sports 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.040 Senior writer. Well Tony will be with us in the 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.920 second hour. We have one hour to break it all down. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.280 Here's what's coming up on the show today, Me and Pete, 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.800 Pete and Me like the old days. I love it. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:56.120 Titans Jaguars review, Jake's lost thirty one to tend Gardner Minshew. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.720 The second will start next week against the Baltimore Ravens. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.880 We'll get into that decision from head coach Doug Marrone. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.760 Tony was Sully at five o'clock. Your social media questions 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.800 in the second hour, but not so powerful draft rankings 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.000 and draft order, and we'll go around the National Football 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:19.880 League and week number fourteen. Mr Prisco, good afternoon, what 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.800 is up? Jtuh This might be the best hour of 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.639 radio we've had in gosh since Besully was in Europe. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.040 I think probably then. Yeah, I mean this hearkens back 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.680 to the days when I was across the street over 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.920 here and used to call into your old radio show 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.399 when you hosted. Remember, yeah, a JP, give us an 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.160 update on the Suns and what they got going on. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:44.560 I can tell me, you can tell me how good 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.040 the pregame meal is. I used to ask you always 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.880 about the pregame meal. That's right, the late Great bet 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.400 Road Chicken Dinners, which is no longer. That's no longer 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.920 with you, Jackson, I know, I know, so yeah, so 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:58.840 this will be fun tonight. I'm looking forward to it, 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.800 and this is made. But you know what it's all 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.160 he's doing. You know, he wouldn't say what he was doing. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:08.359 Maybe he's formulating his plan take over the Maybe he's 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.720 doing that, or or he's on you know about the 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.760 sixteenth hole at Sawgrass, maybe one or the other. Whatever way, 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.760 we're you know what, JP, whatever he's doing, if it's 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.480 that important, we're just gonna say he was on the 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.520 sixteen to a right, because that's not a bad place 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.120 to be. Actually, maybe he's got to figure it out 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.280 and we don't, Pete. We're the ones doing the show. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.480 I don't know the teams won in twelve. Now they've 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.960 dropped twelve in a row. Of course, lost to the Titans. 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.240 And you know, it felt like this was the measuring 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.320 stick game because the Titans are the team, the first 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.560 place team in the ANFC South, the division leaders, They're 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.840 the standard right now. Um, this team is so far 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.680 away the Jaguars are from what the Titans are doing 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.239 that they don't even make measuring six that long in 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.800 my opinion. I mean, it was just a totally different 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:01.000 looking football team yesterday. Yeah, look, the Jaguars aren't a 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.639 very good team right now, and nobody can dispute that. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.880 Nobody will argue that. And they can't compete with good teams. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.120 It's probably not going to compete next week with the 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.799 Ravens either, And so this is not about the rest 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.959 of this year. It's about moving forward after the season 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.040 and and finding the right fits and finding the right 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.280 coach and finding the right general manager. And you know, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.040 look it makes sense to go explore all options and 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.040 you know, filling that position or those positions. And you know, 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.080 you saw there was a report today Albert Berre mentioned 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.480 Urban Meyer. I had heard that I mentioned that to 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.320 you this morning before I even saw that, and that 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.360 is one option out there. And I think the Jaguars 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.320 are indeed interested in him, and we'll we'll talk to 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.280 him down the road or have maybe they've even talked 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:51.240 to him. So again, explore all options and and try 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.160 and figure out who the best people to run that 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.080 franchise is. You know, I was a little shocked yesterday 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.560 when I heard the report that Marone was going to 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:03.240 come back or could come act that was believe that, Yeah, 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.760 because wasn't it was and the way it was kind 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.080 of I wentn't back and kind of looked at the 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.400 wording a little later and it said, hey, some people 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.120 around the league think that Maron has a chance to 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.760 come back. It was kind of a loose report. It 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.840 wasn't like, hey, sources say this is happening, and we 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.600 all know he's staying through the end of the year. 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.960 That's already been announced. Yeah, I and and I saw 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.559 Jeane for Nette disputed it as well just now on Twitter, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.800 Saince some source told him that's not true. I don't 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.720 believe it either. I just don't. I think they're gonna 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.640 clean house. I think they're getting rid of everybody. And 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.119 this is no slight at Doug, but you know, Doug's 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:39.800 hands were kind of tie beyond his back. There's not 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.440 a lot of talent on that team. But changes have 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.480 to come, and it needs to be a full scale 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.880 changes across the board. It just can't be you know, 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.200 one guy here and then maybe you keep the coach 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.040 and you change the general It can't work that way. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.080 It has to be the general manager of the coach 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.840 working together in sync. You want your guys, they want 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.919 to work together. I just can't imagine Doug Moron staying 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.520 in that position. Now. Have weird things happened in the NFL, Absolutely, 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.920 we've seen him happen, but I can't see it happening 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.960 in this case at all. We'll break this down a 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.920 little bit more as we go tonight, Pete, and maybe 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.040 throw some names out there if you if you have 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.280 some others that could be options, that will get into that. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:23.040 But because we must, let's review yesterday's game. The Jaguars 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.120 thirty one to ten uh and Mike Glennan made the 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.640 start and so did Derrick Henry on the other side 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.720 for Tennessee went over two hundred yards for the fourth 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.920 time in his career, the second time against the Jaguars 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.599 in his career two hundred fifteen yesterday, and they seemed 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:45.120 relatively easy for the most part. They the defense had 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.680 real issues. Let's start on the offensive side though, and 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.720 there was a quarterback change in the third quarter. Mike 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.160 Glennan started the game and went two and a half 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.719 quarters with only eighty five passing yards, so Gardner Minshew 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.120 was brought and off the bench. He did lead a 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.280 touchdown drive. James Robinson had a big run on that 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.680 drive as well. There were a couple of other times 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.120 where they ended short in the red zone. And then 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.440 after the game, Gardner Metshew obviously pretty fired up to 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.920 be back on the field. Uh. Yeah, it's so great 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.920 to be back in there. You know. It's something, um 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.600 that I really missed. I missed, Uh, you know, comaraderie 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.440 with the guys. I'm as being out there. Um, you know, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.120 as much as you're always a part of the team, 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.800 it's just something different, you know, when you really are 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.920 out there with the guys, and that was it's always special. Um. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.840 You know, I thought we got in a rhythm. He 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.800 was kind of up and down. Um, you know, I 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.200 think we can finish drives better. Gardner Minshew after the 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.760 game yesterday, Pete and now a fourth quarterback change for 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.760 Doug Moron this year, they're going back to Gardner Minshew 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.360 moving forward, at least this week in Baltimore. Would you 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.560 what'd you think of all the quarterback play yesterday? It 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:02.200 was terrible? You've I'm to expect in Jacksonville. Look, Mike 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:06.200 Lennon was bad. Gardner Minshew wasn't much better when he 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.080 went in there in garbage time, and that's essentially what 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.320 it was. He did give him a little life on 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.720 that one touchdown dry but let me come on that 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.600 that nobody's playing in that situation. It was garbage time. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.200 They're not good at quarterback period. End of story. Jake 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:24.880 Lwton not good, Mike Glennon not good, Gardner Minshew not good. 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.760 So what do you do? You try a new guy 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.200 this week? Um, you bring back Gardner Minshew and let 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.680 him start against the Ravens. But look, doesn't matter, does 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.960 it really matter to JP? None of these are any good. 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.680 It's a bad it's a bad position on a bad 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.000 football team, and it's a big part of the reason 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.200 why they're a bad team, there's all these you know, 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.560 everybody's talking about all the crowd was channing for Minshew 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.880 yesterday and all that stuff, and there's controversy who's gonna start. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.120 There's no such thing as a quarterback controversy when you're 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.320 one and twelve and all three aren't playing, well, that 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.840 just doesn't exist in my book. Well, let's put it 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.000 this way. Which of those three guys is going to 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.040 be on the roster next year? Are any of them? 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.200 And maybe, I mean depends on the GM, right, I mean, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.760 who does he want? I mean, does he think Luton 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.880 maybe has the bigger arm, and as a younger player 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.480 and he's inexpensive, maybe you keep him around. I mean, okay, 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.640 I outlined it last year. If last week, if they 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.440 draft number two, they draft Justin Fields, They're not going 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.000 to have Gardner Minshew be the other quarterback in the room. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.800 It's just not gonna work. Gardner thinks he should be playing, 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.160 and I don't think that he'd be a good mentor 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.880 for Justin Fields. So take that out of the equation. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.319 Mike Glennon. That just depends on what they want in 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.719 their backup quarterback. Luton has the big arm, but he 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.240 didn't show very well when he played. So I'm not 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.080 sure any of them are going to be in the room. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.400 And and the best guest you made it would probably 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.520 be Luton. He would be the guests to be the 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.800 backup quarterback. But you need a veteran I think if 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.760 you've gotta if you have an older quarterback, you have 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.800 to have a veteran behind. I mean a younger quarterback. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.160 You have to have a veteran behind. You need. You 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.000 need a chat to port you know, a Chad Henny 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.000 to your Blake Portles is what you need. Correct, That's 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.079 exactly what you need. And so I don't think any 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:02.560 of them are gonna be on the roster next year, 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.800 or at least suiting up. You know, it depends on 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.640 what the rosters look like in terms of practice squad 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.679 and everything else. But I don't think they're gonna in 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.480 the rules. What the rules are. I don't think any 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.120 of them gonna be suiting up next year. I really don't. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.559 I think they're all gone. And you know, people channing 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:19.240 for Minshew, why what does he bring? What is he 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.600 better than those guys? No? Are they any even better 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.160 than the other No? And so does he bring the 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.880 excitement when he's moving around and leaving clean pockets with 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:35.079 two hands on the ball. Did you know did you know? 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.280 Do you notice that now? Not a lot of all 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.960 the time. Man, it's it's all, that's all I see. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.160 It's it's frustrating. And I was sitting there watching the 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.920 game in my studio with a couple of guys that 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.520 were sitting there, and I'm like, this is maddening watching 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.400 him leave clean pockets. He leaves them and there's no 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.920 reason to leave them, and it's just it's just it's 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.439 just amazing. And I think, what did he have a 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.280 What was the run he had? It was about fifteen 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.520 yard run up the middle of fourteen yard runners something. Yeah, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.599 that was one of those. And I keep finished with 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:11.240 twenty something yards rushing on that run. Okay, but did 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.400 you see the pockets step up and fire a shot 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.040 to somebody? And I hadn't watched the tape. I bet 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.040 there was somebody open and he didn't fire it to him. Now, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.480 now you know, that's the thing. How far down the 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.120 field was this guy you think was open? Well, that's 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.520 the question if and I gotta see it. I didn't 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.360 see it on the tape. But I'll look at the 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.040 tape and see and it's maddening to be because it 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.640 happens all the time to a lot of these young quarterbacks. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.400 And and you heard the game last night. You know 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.000 Josh Allen does run as much. Well, that's a good thing. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:43.679 It's better to move and throw than it is to 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.160 move and run. Your quarterback. You're supposed to move to throw. 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.400 And so I think from that standpoint, Minshew leaves far 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.720 too many clean pockets. And if I was an offensive lineman, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.599 I would hate that. Uh. And I think his receivers 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:57.600 pout when he's in the game. I don't think they 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.640 he throws them open at all. And I think you 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.960 can see that in their body language. And I we've 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.720 got some tweets I think today about people wondering about 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.800 DJ chark body language. And I didn't notice it. I 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.480 don't know, did you notice it? Was it bad? I 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.520 didn't notice it that much yesterday. I mean I noticed 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.720 it earlier in the season a little bit, you could 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.680 sense a little frustration. Yesterday, in particular, it didn't stand 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.920 out to me. Maybe it showed and I just didn't 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.959 see it. But on the TV copy at least I 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.959 didn't see and you know, I'm gonna have to go 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.079 back and watch it when I watched and see. But 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.160 remember two, pet like he's had, he's had a tough season. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.080 Two he's been banged up a little bit Chark has 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.760 and then all that combined with the frustration of the 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.040 offense this year, that's just a tough year for Chark. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.600 I don't think there's anything bad going on with Chark. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.520 I think he's a guy you want around here. It's not. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.480 It's just he's frustrated and understandably so. It's much like 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.200 the Allen Robinson you know, curse when Robinson to play 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.760 Blake Bortles and who else do you play Blake? And 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.040 then he had Nick Foles and he has Drabinsky and 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.120 he's a good, really good receiver. Needn't get the play 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.560 of the good quarterback. That's frustrating. Think about Shark. Look 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:09.439 who he's played with, he played with what Bordles was? 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:17.839 Did he have boardles? Yeah? Right? Yeah? And bowls this year. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:23.000 It's frustrating. It's frustrating. I understand it's frustration. I don't 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.120 understand low thing. If that's the case. If people saw that, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.960 I didn't see it. But I understand the frustration. Yeah, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.120 and obviously we haven't been able to talk to DJ. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:36.320 He has not been out there in the press area, 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.040 in the in the virtual world, I guess after games. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.360 So we'd love to I'm sure at some point here 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.400 from DJ over the next few weeks, to see how 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.920 you like. Who do they make available after the game? 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.199 I saw Minshew was available, but who else? Thence you? 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.360 I saw Shoulbert on the screen. I saw James Robinson 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.959 because he's surpassed a thousand yards. So it's a handful 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.559 of guys, I mean, depending on how you. I just 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.320 don't know how you could cover a team right now. Yeah, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.680 we talked about, Yeah, it'd be so hard. And because 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.360 I meant i'd go to the wide receivers and say, hey, 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:08.920 what do you think of the quarterbacks? And you have 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.240 a story. They can't throw me the ball. They're all bad. 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.720 Let's hear from I'd be curious, does anybody think Minsho 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:22.720 is good? Does anybody? I mean, seriously, he's not. Apparently 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.600 some folks in the stands did yesterday. Wow, I don't 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.640 get it. Yeah, let's hear from head coach Doug Marone 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.400 today on a conference call with the media explaining why 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:38.319 Gardner minshow next week in Baltimore. Yeah, I mean, I 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.600 mean that comes into play, you know, and extending plays 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.480 and being you know, being able to make plays on 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.040 his feet and you know, um, I mean that's you know, 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.280 that's that's what we're looking for. And you know, someone 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.839 I can do it, and you know, um, you know, 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.360 Mike's gonna sit back there and we haven't been you know, 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.000 doing a great job and anything. I think that's why 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.480 we are sitting, you know, with with our record the 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.320 way it is. So there you go. Head coach Doug 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:06.040 Marone today discussing some of the reasons why Gardner minshew 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:11.280 last yesterday eighteen thirty one. He had thirty one attempts. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:12.920 They were down so big they had to throw it 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.120 all over the yard yesterday and you know, going back 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.040 to earlier in the year, that's not the formula for 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.160 success for yeah, and it just it was n the 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.120 even period. It was I mean, the numbers looked better 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.280 than the game. Let's put it that way. Eighteen and 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.800 thirty one for one seventy eight doesn't look awful, but 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:34.480 he didn't look that good, right, right, So U they 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.160 have it first appearance since week seven, before the bye week. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.160 We'll come back in a moment. We've got plenty of head. Pete, 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.520 we have to talk about the Jaguars defense. It was 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.360 a rough day at the office yesterday. 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Pete and didn't he have a long 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.920 run call back to he did? There were a couple 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.080 I think in fact, so he might have flirted with 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.680 the all time record had he had those runs in there, 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.359 they might have left him in. Yeah, and they did 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:43.840 take him out of the game, but they did allow 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.920 him to go back in and get the two. What 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:49.920 I couldn't figure out was early in the game, why 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.000 wasn't he in on the fourth and one? That was 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.800 a weird one. That was a really mean Sometimes these 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.920 coaches outthink themselves. I don't get it. But he looked 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.560 The defense is bad. They were blocked, had a ton 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.680 every time he got the ball, there was space and 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.560 sometimes there was giant cavities in that defense. I mean, 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:09.920 just whatever he wanted to do, he could do. And 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.520 once he gets ahead of steam, forget about it. JP 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.080 he's done. You can't you know, it's hard to tackle him. 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.080 You gotta get him bouncing, you gotta get him early 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.840 into play. And they did none of that. Every single 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.200 time it looked like he had space to run and 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.680 maneuver and and start running over people. So it's a 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.119 bad defensive performance. There was the talk going into the 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:32.040 game feat where they were discussing uh, the coaching staff 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.840 and players. Defensive players were saying, well, we're adding time 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.080 and practice this week to talk about stiff arms, and 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.000 how do you defend against the stiff arm. You chop 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.520 it down your eyes to the thighs and all that. Well, 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.640 it doesn't really matter if you're five yards away from 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.200 the guy and can't get to him. No, well, once 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.880 he gets ahead of steam, going forget about it, he's 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:52.919 gonna he's gonna run three. And here we're looking at 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.120 some of these runs and look at that hole. Look 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.399 at that hole, and then of course you know the 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.280 safety takes a terrible angle and has no change ants. 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:02.720 It's just I mean I could have run through that hole. 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.840 There were a couple of their holes. And I'm not exaggerating. 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.000 There were a couple of those holes in that game 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.760 where we could look at that there's nobody there. That's 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.120 just bad gap football. Somebody, somebody just messed up their 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.199 gap discipline right there because he ran right through him. 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.399 That's not like the offensive lines mauling up front or anything. 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.120 I mean, you're just blocking the guy on the left 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.720 and he runs to the right. That was it were 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:27.280 run that play again because where the heck on the linebacker? 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:29.480 I think that was. Was that the play where they 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:32.920 shifted last moment before and then he ran through. I 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:34.720 think it was there was like a late shift on 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:38.440 defense the secondary guys around. We didn't see the safety 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:45.560 what's his name? Winged? Well, Okay, Let's see Miles gets blocked. 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:47.560 He runs into a gap and gets blocked by the 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:51.120 right tackle. So he got somebody didn't hold that gap. 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.400 If he's coming into that that gap that he blitz into, 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.680 what you can see him he's running in there, somebody's 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.920 got to have gap discipline. Oh it's the and will 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.760 washed down. Okay, yeah, you can see it. Watch the 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:09.320 watch the right Jason gets moved. Yeah, Jason gets washed down. 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:13.119 That that's the problem right there. We figured it out, 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.879 we digressed it. Yeah, he looked he actually was a 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.639 little bit better yesterday. I thought he showed some life 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.879 and and and look, you're looking for positiveive signs from Jason, 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:25.760 but he did a little bit more yesterday. That was 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.119 one good sign. But as a defense, they were terrible. 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:32.560 Oh yeah, bad day overall at the office yesterday. Another 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.760 guy that played well. Obviously, Miles Jack had a bunch 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:39.480 of tackles yesterday. But Joe Giles Harris continues to bring 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.760 some statistics to the table. Here, five tackles in yesterday's game. 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:47.480 He's a first year player out of Duke, and he 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.520 had a sack in yesterday's game too, So I mean 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:52.359 the guy is the last couple of weeks starting to 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.360 put up some numbers. That's a good sign for him. 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.400 You know, he's a relative unknown. We haven't really heard 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.640 a lot of his name over the last couple of seasons. 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.000 But hey, good for him. He's standing out a little bit. Yeah, 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.720 where did he come from? He was an undrafted guy 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.159 last year? I know, but I mean he hadn't been 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.280 playing at all up until the last couple of weeks, 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.200 right right, And they had so many injuries at that 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:19.080 strong side linebacker that now Joe's getting a chance on defense. 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:23.040 He started yesterday's game. In fact, they actually made some plays. 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.000 Do you actually looked like he was a productive player? 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.560 I mean it was. It was good to see. You know, 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.520 some of those young players. Look, they're they're okay, but 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.080 the problem isn't playing too many snaps. They're on the 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:35.960 field too much. They should be rotational guys, and you're 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.800 asking too much of them and they're just not good enough. 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.320 Right now. Um, you know, you look at the team, 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.920 but that that group, read the starting lineup from yet 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.239 and try and peg how many of those guys are 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:50.760 gonna be starting next year? All right, here's the Grant 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.720 starters from yesterday's lineup next year. On defense, here we 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.880 go the starting lineup for your Jacksonville Jaguars in Week 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:06.119 fourteen against the Tennessee Titan. Defensive lineman Dawn Smoot, nose 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:15.159 tackle Daniel Aqually. No defensive tackle Doug Coston maybe probably 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:21.640 not though defensive and Adam Gotsis no week side linebacker 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:28.680 Miles jack Middle linebacker Joe Shobert. Maybe the linebacker Joe 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:36.359 Giles Harris. No cornerback Sydney Jones the fourth maybe, but 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:38.919 why did he only play thirty five snaps? That was there? 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.320 I didn't see an injury. I didn't see him. I 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.840 didn't see it yesterday either on on the injury thing. 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:51.160 So maybe for him free safety Jared Wilson, maybe strong 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:56.120 safety Josh Jones. Cornerback Tray hurt And by the way, 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.680 did he get hurt because he didn't play? I think yeah, 0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.760 he got banged up yesterday. He let after halftime, he 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.440 came back in and then early in the second half 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.679 they ruled him. Answer for him is no, Okay, Herndon 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:16.639 corner maybe there's not a lot of yeses. There's how 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:21.119 many yes is? There's one yes? Miles? That's it? The 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:25.080 only yes, says got three more years of his deal. 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:27.680 It doesn't. But you don't play a guy just for 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.360 the sake of playing him. I mean, what if else 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.760 is gonna put out there? What if they change What 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:34.680 if the new coaches staff comes out and they changed 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.600 to a three four scheme? Can he handled playing in 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:40.640 a three three four schemes? Not a big guy. Miles 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.000 isn't a big guy either, but he's more of a 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.480 thumper than shower. It is, so, I mean, there's a 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.600 lot of things Miles, for sure, he's the only one 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.960 now Sydney Jones. If he played like Sydney Jones earlier 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:53.840 in the year, then I think he would be a candidate. 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.879 But can you count on that. I mean, the inconsistency 0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:58.880 and the injuries have always been there, so it's there's 0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.800 uncertainty there as well. But of all the guys that 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.280 were on the field starting that game, the only one 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:08.560 that you can say definitely definitely that will starts Jack. 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:10.600 That's just that's that's a lot of work to be 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.320 done in the off season for the general manager. I mean, 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.000 you're you're always talking about the quarterback and getting the 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.120 offense going and everything, but you gotta stop some guys. 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.639 How many guys that will start next year or now 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:25.080 on injured reserve or on or out with injured? Oh, 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.960 there's so many, right, I mean, maybe's talent one, there's 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:29.920 another one, so there's two. Let me go to the 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.560 actual injured reserve right now and I'll pull it up. 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:39.159 Is three? Yeah, that's right, that's right. Um okay, let 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:40.680 me go through the list here. Let me get to 0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.560 the list standby, here we go. Here comes the injured 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:52.280 reserve Jacksonville Jaguars, Josh Allen, Chris Claybrooks, Ben Ellipson, Von 0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.359 Davon Hamilton's. Yes, there's another one, so that's two. That's 0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:00.520 but three, right, that's well, Captain Miles says. Plus two 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.800 others Dick Hamilton's and Josh Allen, that's three that would 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:09.480 definitely start next year. D J. Hayden No. C. J. Henderson, Yes, 0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:19.240 there's four. Leon Jacobs No, Lambeau doesn't count norwell. Um 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.480 maybe Josh Oliver tied End. Haven't seen any of him? 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.280 Who the hell knows? Do you know about him? He 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:32.639 hasn't played a bunch of defensive guys as well as Russell. 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:39.640 We haven't seen much of no starter. Daniel Thomas maybe, yeah, 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:45.000 he flashed. But but there's four definites four. So if 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:48.000 you're a new GM and you're coming in here, you 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:54.080 and you have to find starters, quality starters. Now Coston 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:55.920 might be one of those guys. He might be on 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:57.480 like if he played the three four, he could be 0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.200 one of the big ends or one of the ends 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.359 the down well you know tackle ends, slash guy. They 0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.800 bay Hamilton's costin and what and you need another body 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.120 over there. And then you stand up Alan and Chase 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:12.080 on and you play jack and whoever, show bird, who quarterman, whoever. 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.359 Then you get away with it that way. But but 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:21.600 again for definite guys on defense. Now we're gonna talk 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:23.440 about the offense too, but we can flip it to 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:27.400 the offense. And how many definite starters are on the offense. Well, 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:32.720 let's come back and get into the offense. 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I mean, you don't get drafted, it sucks, 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:58.120 but I mean once you um get on a team, 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.520 it's still kind of the same villain, other than not 0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.280 having your name caught on TV. But yeah, I just 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.719 keep going out there and grinding and wait for your opportunity. 0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:13.240 James Robinson, Jaguars running back after the game yesterday, sixty 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.120 seven yards on the ground against the Titans and now 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:21.080 over one thousand in his rookie season, rushing third in 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.800 the league, fourth and scrimmage yards in the NFL. Welcome 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.640 back Jaguars Happy Our j P. Shadrick with Pete Brisco 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.880 Tony Boselli's on the vac nine somewhere should join us 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:34.680 at five o'clock today and our conversation. Just yanked one 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.560 into the tree. It's gonna hit a breakfast Forallard afternoon 0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:46.120 brunch ball. You know, have you ever played with him? No? 0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:47.760 I have not. I heard he hits it a mile 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:49.880 though I haven't either. I'm sure he does. I mean, 0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.840 he's got all that length, so he can they can 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:57.160 rip it probably. You know, you can get in his head, though, 0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.160 come on, look at this show when every Monday, it's 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:02.640 so easy to get in his head. You know, you 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.600 can get into his hat. Poke him at, poke him 0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:08.080 a time or two, and you know he teas off 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.200 with his I did that the you know, Brady Quinn. 0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.799 I worked with the old quarterback's playing golf with him 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.800 one day and he hits it a mile and we 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.319 were playing, and he played at a club and he's 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:23.239 teeing off with his irons and I'm like, what are 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.120 you doing? You're like a tennis player runs around his 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.360 backhand hitting, you know, hit with your driver. Come on, 0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.400 what is this? He pulls out of his driver and 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.560 proceeds to yagg about three of them into the woods. 0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.279 I got into his head and actually beat him that day. 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.120 And he's a ten times better golfer than I am. 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.600 That's sometimes it's what it takes to equal the playing field. 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.319 You gotta get getting the mentals, as they say. Of course, 0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.320 of course it's a mental game, There's no doubt about that. 0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.759 And I'm pretty bad physically at it too. That's the 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.680 other issue, Um, Jaguar's offense. We continue our conversation. We 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.480 just talked about the defense. How many guys that started 0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.160 yesterday would be starters next season? We can play the 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.239 same game on the offensive side, and of course they 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.799 played two different quarterbacks yesterday. It won't be either one 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.960 of those guys, um, And then we can go down 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.640 the list. You just want to go down the list here, 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:13.759 I mean, let's start, by the way, One quick thing 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:17.239 about James Robinson. The kids a phenomenal running back. Phenomenal. 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.080 He reminds me again, I say it all the time. 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.399 He does run like Emmett Smith. He doesn't have great speed, 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.520 but he knows how to make people miss. He knows 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.480 how to, you know, give a little bit of a 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:29.640 small target and turn his body. I just every time 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.960 he runs and there's a flag, I see the frustration 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.840 all over his face. Yeah, how many times has that 0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.759 happened to him? This year where he's had a nice 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.880 run or a touchdown and had it called back for 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:46.440 a flag numerous times, so many times, and obviously yesterday 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.160 he's a building block and a great player to have 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.400 on that team. The guy yesterday go again had twelve 0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.480 negative rushes all year. He had too early in the game. 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.440 You could tell that the Titans were not going to 0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.360 let him get rolling early in that game yesterday, and 0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:03.640 they did a pretty good job of keeping him and 0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.120 check a lot of that day. He had forty seven 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.640 yards of his day in the fourth quarter and in 0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.640 that one run his longest run of the year. But early, um, 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.000 they knocked him down in the backfield a couple of times. 0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:19.000 All right, So obviously that's one guy that would start 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:20.960 next year. By the way, Leonard for Nette was a 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:26.520 healthy scratch yesterday. What's that about? Um, you can only imagine. 0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.880 I don't know. They didn't really say. I didn't hear 0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:33.040 anything about that, but I mean, you go from a 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:37.080 guy who's been playing to healthy scratch. Something's up right? Well, 0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:41.360 I mean it didn't hurt him. They won beat the Vikings. No, 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.440 but he hasn't played very well either. He's you know, 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:47.560 he isn't very good. That's an issue. Yes, that is 0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.799 an issue. So produces. The Jaguars front office has taken 0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:52.560 over the years, and some of it rightfully. So they 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.560 got that one right. That was the right call, that 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:56.919 was the right drafting him. They got that one wrong. 0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.560 But to get him out of here, absolutely, and and 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.799 it took this training camp to do it. I mean, 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.399 that's what they saw it. They Doug Moron said it. Hey, 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.200 we're no no numbers, no names on the jerseys. That's 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.440 as cliche as it gets, but that's what it was. 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.680 It was the performance during training camp for James Robinson 0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:16.440 that said, you know what, we can get rid of 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.680 our first round, top five draft pick running Bank. That's 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.839 pretty bold. Well, they could have got rid of him 0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.200 last year, but that's a whole another story. Um, okay, 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.920 so let's go James Robinson's one, obviously one. Let me 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.440 go through the starting line up yesterday. Peete, all right, Um, 0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.479 there's one. We'll start with the skill guys, then wide 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:42.080 receivers d J. Chark, yes, Leviscus Chernault. Yes. They started 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.160 with two tight ends yesterday. By the way, on end, 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:49.640 so put the third receiver in there. So Cole no 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:51.239 I mean he'll be a backup. He won't be a 0:37:51.280 --> 0:38:02.040 starter effort tight end. No, that face painful. Pete. Yeah, 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.760 I think they'll find a tight end in the drafts 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:11.120 Florida quarterback obviously, No, we've gone through that. How many 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.920 we have so far? We have recounting Robinson, shark and 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.640 all right, so that's three. Let's go to the offensive line. 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:22.040 This is an interesting cam Robinson left tackle. I'm gonna say, no, 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.800 I don't think he's gonna be there. I'm leaning with you, 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.880 and you know if you get all argue when we 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:29.879 get when he gets in there, because he always takes 0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.000 up for the left tackle. I swear to god, JP, 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:33.640 I could put a helmet on you and stick you 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:38.440 at left tackle and he'd defend you. And I'm a 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.920 spinning top over there. There's no way I'm blocking it. 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.600 But he defended Luke jokel. That's been adopted in me 0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:49.000 Ben Bartch left guard. Yes, I think he's gonna be 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.440 a starter next year. They've been talking him up the 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.480 last couple of weeks. I think he's I think and 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.719 I thought he did okay yesterday. I thought he was better. 0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:58.759 And you know, but silly picks that kid apart for 0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.160 some reason, and I think he's been better, and I 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.239 think he will start at left guard because I think 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.480 they're gonna let Norwell go. Even you know you don't 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:07.120 have to let Norwell go. But if you have a 0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:08.640 guy who can go in there and play, and isn't 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.719 the drop off isn't that much? Why not play him? 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.279 And don't you think that that that makes sense? Sure? 0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.919 Absolutely right, You save some cash, get the guy in there. 0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.160 You still are effective? And is that the same argument 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:26.239 at center? Tyler Shatley started yesterday? And Shatley wasn't awful either. 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.520 I didn't just from the TV tape and I haven't 0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:30.440 watched the All twenty two tape, but he didn't look 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.400 awful either. I don't. I mean, look, Linda is a 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.400 better player than Shatley, but it's not that much different. 0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.400 You can't get rid of all of them. No, I'm 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.120 not gonna. I mean, personally, if it was my team, 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.000 I might consider getting rid of all of them, because 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.400 I don't why why just for the Antnioways goes, Oh, 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.400 you gotta have lineman in front of that young quarterback? 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.960 What if they're not good? Yeah, get some better lineman, right, 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.040 if there's somebody it relates to dam Robinson. I look, 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:56.920 you could get by with Norwell and and and and 0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.880 Linda coming back because they're not they're not. They've played okay, 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:05.040 they've been solid. Cam Robinson hasn't played to a new 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:10.160 new contract that will pay him eighteen million a year. Right, 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.440 I'm with you. I mean, it's a contract. Do you 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.839 expect to play to be at its best this year? 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.440 And if this is the best, it's not like the 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.080 contract year where he focused on everything and got himself 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:23.759 in the tip shop tip top shape and he was 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.440 ready to go, and this is the best, then you're 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.600 not paying that, that's right. A J. Cannit right guard. 0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.640 I think he comes back and starts. He's actually played 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.280 pretty well this year. A J. And Juan Taylor right tackle. 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.759 I think he's back. Yeah, he's coming back, but he 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.040 needs to pick it up. You know. I usually don't 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:46.520 criticize the coaching staff for guys, but that line hasn't 0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.319 gotten that much better he has. He's regressed and that's 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.759 a concern. When you have young players who regressed, that's 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.560 a major concern. So there you have it. That's the 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.840 starting lineup from yesterday. And there's a handful of guys 0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:00.680 on I ur enter norm Well could be back on 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.359 the practice field this week, so we might how many 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.680 definite do we have? We had Robinson, Chark and Chal 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.960 It's not a definite starter either, So Robinson Chark I 0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.560 think he is, though, Pete, I mean, yeah, yeah, they 0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.600 targeted him, what do they target him? A bunch of times? 0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:16.640 Bunch yesterday? Yeah, he was all over the place. I 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:18.160 think you lined up in the backfield a couple of 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:23.480 times as well. Yeah, he'll probably be charch h eleven 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:30.439 target So charch Chenal, Robinson, Taylor, it's four, it's four 0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:37.960 and or Linder and Norwell, I think. Okay, so four 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:42.600 or five, right, that's it. That's a lot of work 0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.200 to be done too. It's a lot of guys. How 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.600 many draft picks they have, next ton of draft picks 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.920 and you have a ton of money, right, but those 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:52.440 guys are going to come in right away, I mean 0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:56.000 the draft picks. It takes time for rookies, even first 0:41:56.080 --> 0:42:00.040 round picks to get right sometimes. Yeah, but okay, to 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.600 look around the league that Beckton is playing pretty well, 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.360 really well, but there's a high picks to Beckton for 0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.360 the Jets. Andrew Thomas got better than got worse yesterday. 0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:14.360 Um Wills is playing pretty good for the Browns. I 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.800 mean you can find you can find left tackle and 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.759 and put them in there and play him. I mean 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.600 the jack Ward. How much cap room will they have. 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.520 I'm just looking at it, just quickly, looking at the 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:28.040 two thousand and twenty one caps, because Bucky told us 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:32.920 on Wednesday he feels like million. Now yeah, m hmm. 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:37.680 That's healthy. That's still healthy. He said that tackles pretty 0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:41.239 deep this year in the draft. There's some tackles. There 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.719 are some tackles. Yes, seventy seven million dollars in cap 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:47.400 space though, and if you didn't bring Norwell and linderback, 0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.160 you create more. Not I don't know how much I 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.200 got to do the calculating, but you create some more. 0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.200 So they have money to spend. And what do we say, 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.200 what do they got two first round picks? What they 0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.239 have seven in the first four? Isn't that right? Yeah, 0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:04.400 there's a lot early this this coming yere Um. I 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.200 mean the ramp didn't do him a favor last week. 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:11.240 But no, they didn't. I mean it's just that they're 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:18.080 loaded for the draft and they're loaded for spending money. 0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:22.719 This is not they got the second overall, they got 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:27.040 twenty six or in that area, they'll have thirty you know, 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:37.359 thirty four and sixty six. Wow, So that's I mean, 0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:42.279 that's a lot of capital. Yeah, yeah, it is. No. 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:43.880 I mean, do you finlay some of that and move 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:45.719 up if you? I mean, depending on what the new 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.000 gms wanted to do or move around, you can move 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:52.120 up to one and go get one. I think that's happening. 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:54.960 Would you give would you give up the second first 0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:59.680 round pick to go up a spot? I mean, what 0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.560 you've done in free agency at that point I would 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.120 get I don't care. I'm giving it up. I'll give you. 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.880 I'll sit there and I like Fields, but I love Lawrence. 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.560 So if you go, I'll give up you. I'll give 0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:13.680 up A one and a two next year to go 0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:18.920 up a spot. You're generous, very generous. I want that quarterback. 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.520 I think that that changes the whole dynamic of a franchise. 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:27.480 All right, let's come back. We'll get into the reports. 0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:30.360 Je real quick. I pet you to the majority of 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:31.920 fans out there would give up A one and the 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:37.160 two to go probably they would? Would you? I think 0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:40.120 it might, Yeah, of course you would. I think it 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.000 might well, specifically when he gets off the golf course, 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:44.840 if he would do that. Yeah, we'll see if he 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:46.920 makes it on time. He's due to join us at 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.000 five o'clock. We're back in a moment. 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Because it Navy Mutual, our highest commitment 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:10.560 is to you visit Navy Mutual dot org, Navy Mutual 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:31.480 ensuring those who serve. You know, he threw some good 0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.440 balls and we had we had we left some plays 0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:36.000 out there, and you know, he had some drops. You know, 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.839 I mean, just you know, it's just tough. I think 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:40.799 it's it's not on one person. I mean I think 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:42.640 everyone can see that there's a lot of things that 0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:45.080 you know, we've we've got to keep working on and 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.560 keep trying to approve upon. So UM, you know, I 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:50.759 don't I don't think it's for the one position right now, 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.200 Um that we can you know point to. Um. I 0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:55.880 think we just got to try to see, you know, 0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.719 whoever it is, whoever gives us the best chance to 0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.919 you know, try to win a football. Head coach Doug 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.880 Moron after the game yesterday and the loss to the Titans. 0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:07.880 Thirty one ten Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday, 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.560 presented by Jet Home Loans, J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco. 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:18.319 Tony Vaselli is wrapping up of golf round. Maybe we'll 0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:20.640 find out about five o'clock where he has been for 0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:23.160 the last hour. What do you think you over under? 0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.200 What tiny accident shows up there? Oh that's a good one. 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:28.759 Will he be on time at five o'clock at the 0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:31.719 top of the hour or nine? Will he be here 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:39.120 by five o'clock? I say, I say yes, just for purposes, Yeah, 0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.520 all right, I'll go. Yes, I'm taking the I'm taking 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:43.959 the over. I'll go under that, right, what's the what's 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:48.759 the bet? Next time I see a drink? How about that? Okay, 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:53.840 I'm I'll thanks for the drink. I appreciate it. You 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.200 know something I don't already know. I don't know anything. 0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:00.520 I'm just saying, thank you, thank you for the drink. Early, Um, 0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.040 let's get into a little bit of the changes that 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:06.320 are obviously coming up. The GM has gone, and obviously 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:10.120 the question is what will this What will the order 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.919 of operations, the flow chart look like? Only shot con 0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.920 really would know what what he wants it to be. 0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:21.120 He's had a few different ways to go about it 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:24.759 as the owner here, um obviously, the the GM, the 0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:28.320 head coach, who reports to who? And when? Is a 0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.319 guy like Mark Lamping going to be a little more 0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.920 involved because he really hasn't been over the last a 0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:35.839 little while at least. Well, I don't think Mark will 0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:37.920 be involved in the football side of thing, right, will 0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:40.520 be involved in the hiring process. I would imagine he 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:43.960 would have something input into it. Yeah. Sure. So at 0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:46.800 the end of the day, is it coach reporting to GM, 0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:51.080 record reporting to the owner? Is there like there was 0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.279 in the last year or so, the GM and head 0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.360 coach equally reporting to the owner. That seemed like a 0:50:57.480 --> 0:51:01.040 lot of moving parts there. Or is it a vice 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:06.400 president of football operations hiring a general manager and they 0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:09.680 hire a coach and the coach reports to both and 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:14.239 they both in the one reports to the VP of 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:17.560 Football Operations and the football operations VP of Football Operations 0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:22.120 reports to John con That's the way it could work. 0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:25.320 I mean, if you look at at the forty Niners, 0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:35.120 John Lynch, Adam Peters, Kyle Shanahan, and Lynch reports to 0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:40.080 the ownership the Yorks. So I think that could work. Um, 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:44.160 if you have the right people in place. It could 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.320 work if you have a general manager and a coach 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:52.600 who a general manager came up through the ranks. That's 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:54.239 the difference. Like, let's let's just throw it out there. 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.200 Let's just say Boselli was the VP of Player of 0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:59.680 Football operations have to hire. He'd have to be at 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:04.640 the top. He'd have to hire a good general general 0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:06.680 manager or whatever time do you want to give him, 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:09.520 Who's come up through the scouting ranks, which Tony didn't do, 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:13.400 who knows the scouting circles, who knows the good scouts, 0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:15.680 who knows how to network, who knows how to get 0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:19.520 the information? And then they would hire the code And 0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:23.880 usually you would hire a guy on your radar that 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:27.160 you know. Now, does mis selling know these guys like 0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:29.080 some of the people in the league. Probably not. That 0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:32.560 might not be a bad thing, because here's why. Sometimes 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.480 we get in the networking and I'll hire your cousin, 0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:38.399 if you hire my brother, if you hire my brother 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.040 in law down the road, and you see it all 0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.399 the time. So it might not be a bad thing 0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.959 to have a guy like that in that position, because 0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.680 then he's gonna find the really good people and not 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.800 be influenced by others to hire their friends and their buddies, 0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:55.000 which sometimes that could be a problem. So it gives 0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.440 them an open campus. If Tony was in that role, 0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:01.600 now let's just say it was. They hired Um Ryan 0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:05.400 colten Um from the Titans, and he hired Arthur Smith. 0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:10.640 Then I think Smith reports the Calton who reports too 0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:17.600 the con What about all this urban Meyer talk today? 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:20.520 So he would want carte blonde, right, do you? That's 0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:25.200 another option to write gives the urban Meyer would want. 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.080 You know, he's sniffing around jobs. He sniffed around jobs 0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:29.920 in the past. Remember he had the health issues that 0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:33.200 were concerned at Florida, and does he want to get 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.480 back into it. I don't think. I don't think that 0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.359 would be a great higher I'll just put that out there. 0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:44.239 I just don't why. I don't think, just I don't. 0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:46.600 I don't know. I used to have when he came 0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.960 to Florida. I remember I did a show with Franzie 0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:52.120 back in the day, and I remember telling Franzi, go, 0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:55.520 you are going to love urban Meyer because I followed 0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:58.080 his career and I watched him at Utah and Frank 0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.359 wasn't aware of him, and he wasn't real on who 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.759 he was. And I remember telling Frank, I, go, you're 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:07.799 gonna love Urban Meyer. And true to his word, they did. 0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:10.719 The whole Nate Gator Nation loved Urban because he brought 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:15.680 winner there. Now, he had some players of questionable character 0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:17.719 when he was at the University of Florida. That's a 0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:20.680 way to say it. But you know what if they 0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.680 did that at Arizona State and want a couple of titles, 0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:25.480 I trade it in the nest. So let's go, let's go. 0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:31.839 So anyways, but you know, so if you had Urban Meyer, 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:35.440 then you'd bring in a guy that would kind of 0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:43.239 answer to him. For example, think links to Belichick and 0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:46.239 Belichick that you know, you know, Shod and Tony Kahn 0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:50.759 respect Bill Belichick. Tony Khan loves Bill Belichick. Look, I 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.279 love Tony con I think Tony Khan is a passionate, 0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:57.560 die hard football guy and he loves it and lives it. 0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:02.000 But he loves Bill Belichick and rightfully so. Bill Belichick 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:03.960 is the greatest coach in the history of the league. 0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:06.719 So why not lean on that if you have it 0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:10.480 as a resource. But Belichick might recommend irban Meyer. And 0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.200 if you recommend irban Meyer, he might recommend one of 0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:16.520 his former lieutenants. Maybe it's Nick Kissario, if you can 0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:20.120 get him out of New England. Maybe it's Scott Pioli, 0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.320 who works with me. Now, I mean there are guys 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.760 out there, and so think about that. I mean they 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.120 basically Urban Meyer has been a coach, is coming out 0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:30.879 of the TV booth. Scott Pioli has been a general 0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:32.800 magic he'll be coming out of the TV booth. So 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:35.680 you know, there are a lot of scenarios to play 0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:37.359 it out. There are a lot of good people out there, 0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:39.840 but you've got to find the right people. And by 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:42.040 the way, I'm gonna say this again, Vasselli's not here. 0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:44.480 I sincerely believe he could do the job as VP 0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:48.040 of of football operations. I don't think he could be 0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:50.920 just the general manager because he didn't come up through 0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:54.239 the ranks, but as big picture VP of football operations. 0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:57.440 It's just football. I say it over and over again. 0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.920 It's just football. Marty her is the general matter of 0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:04.200 the Carolina Panthers. He was a sportswriter at one point. 0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:08.640 It's just well, let's say a lot. Then let's come 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:11.200 back in a moment and we'll get the answer. Is 0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:15.960 Tony on time or not? We've just completed the greatest 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:19.480 hour of radio all season, is the best all years, 0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:22.840 It's not even close. We shouldn't have him screaming and 0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:25.880 yelling and interrupting and everything else. We should We should 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:28.160 turn this in for awards, is what we should do. Well, 0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:32.080 you're you're, you're going to vote for yourself anyway. Jaguars 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:44.920 Happy Hour Jaguars Digital Network. 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Yes, what we're gonna do is I spoke 1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:16.560 to the quarterback today, you know, when I played them, 1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:18.680 I mean all three of them, you know, during the 1:00:18.760 --> 1:00:21.640 course of this year having you know, I think having 1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:23.520 done the way they want them to go, neither of I, 1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:26.640 neither of anyone. And there's a lot of a lot 1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:28.880 of pressure to get everyone else around us playing well. 1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:32.520 And I think you know, um, you know that's it's 1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:35.040 going to be important for you know, the pieces around 1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:38.560 them to play extremely well for them to have success. So, um, 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:40.920 you know, Gardener is gonna go ahead and get to 1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:43.000 start this week. And I told you know, Mike to 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:46.000 be ready and Jake to keep coming along because you know, 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:48.160 the pressure on pressure on all of us to go 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:52.360 in there and and and win football games. Head coach 1:00:52.440 --> 1:00:56.640 Doug Broone today discussing the quarterback position and welcome back 1:00:56.760 --> 1:01:00.600 Jaguar's Happy Hour j P Shadrick, Pete Price, Go, Tony 1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:03.920 Basselli coming up the aftermath of a loss to the 1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:08.120 Titans yesterday one ten, the final score the Jags and 1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:12.720 now dropped twelve consecutive games, extending the single season franchise 1:01:12.840 --> 1:01:16.880 worst losing skid, and the quarterback change. Minshoe will get 1:01:16.920 --> 1:01:20.520 the start this week against the Baltimore Ravens in week 1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:25.200 number fifteen, and maybe not beyond that the will see 1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:29.120 depending on the performance. The Jaguars lead the league and 1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:32.280 player count the number of players who have played on 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:35.880 the field this year, seventy nine different players have played 1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:38.520 a lot of turnover and Pete and I were discussing 1:01:38.560 --> 1:01:43.080 earlier you know how many guys that started yesterday would 1:01:43.120 --> 1:01:46.919 be starters next year. And now it's onto Baltimore where 1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:49.680 guess what klais Campbell and Unique and Gakua will be 1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:52.920 fired up and ready to play the Jags. And guess what, Pete, 1:01:53.400 --> 1:01:57.080 you owe me a drink Tony bosellis on time. You 1:01:57.120 --> 1:02:00.600 know what I think? I think Basselli was listening and 1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:03.280 he raced to get his office so he would make 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:08.520 me a loser that you wouldn't make it by five o'clock. 1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:13.680 A break? Well, where were you? What? What? What hold 1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:15.440 you finish up on before you got out of there? 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:25.240 It was not for months? You were you? You played well? 1:02:25.320 --> 1:02:29.400 I hope was the old saw Grass? And was at 1:02:29.440 --> 1:02:32.400 the stadium? Was it the valley? Where were you? We 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:34.640 already we had to yanke in a couple into the 1:02:34.720 --> 1:02:41.280 woods by the way. People called in and sent me 1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:43.080 a couple of direct messages. They said that it was 1:02:43.120 --> 1:02:45.800 the best hour of this show. They had in like 1:02:47.440 --> 1:02:50.360 messages as I was in this other event, saying where 1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:53.040 are you? It's a train wreck. They can't even carry 1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:55.880 the show. You were getting messages. Don't you know you're 1:02:55.920 --> 1:02:57.720 not supposed to have your your phone on on the 1:02:57.760 --> 1:03:00.520 golf course. I'm surprised that's allowed it saw Grass, sir, 1:03:00.960 --> 1:03:07.960 this nuts shouldn't be no phones allowed. We've been we've 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:14.080 been evaluating the mess that is. Oh I was thinking 1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:17.720 about I was thinking about the you know kind of 1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:21.200 the show today and and what what what are you 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:23.000 talking about? Because it isn't it doesn't. It feel like 1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:25.080 it's a little bit of the same story over and 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:29.560 over again. And the only difference this week is instead 1:03:29.560 --> 1:03:31.880 of being close and like, okay they had a chance, 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:33.920 they never had. I mean from the middle of the 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:37.560 second quarter on, it was over and as sooner you 1:03:37.600 --> 1:03:40.320 can feel it on that drive where Derreck Camber you 1:03:40.320 --> 1:03:43.560 got them about five times for seventy five yards right there, 1:03:44.040 --> 1:03:47.560 it was like, oh, this could get ugly, and you 1:03:47.600 --> 1:03:49.680 almost get the feeling you didn't get more ugly because 1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:52.240 Pete they didn't want it to because they well it 1:03:52.360 --> 1:03:54.080 was thirty one three. They're like, hey, let's just get 1:03:54.120 --> 1:03:56.040 out of here, run the clock so we can go 1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:59.000 home without any injuries. That's and they took him out 1:03:59.040 --> 1:04:00.280 of the game, but then put it back again to 1:04:00.320 --> 1:04:05.200 get the two under Well. And here's another crazy thing. 1:04:05.320 --> 1:04:08.160 I bet you had fifty yards runs called back because 1:04:08.200 --> 1:04:11.120 of that's what we were saying earlier. But you know what, 1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:12.560 do you get one call back and then he just 1:04:12.560 --> 1:04:14.280 give it back to him and you go rip up another. 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:20.840 So I mean, here's here's the deal, and we know this, Um, 1:04:21.440 --> 1:04:23.640 they lost twelve straight I'm sure you guys covered that 1:04:23.760 --> 1:04:29.200 franchise record. Uh, all the questions about who the quarterback is. 1:04:29.520 --> 1:04:32.000 It's important for the guys in the locker room, important 1:04:32.000 --> 1:04:33.400 for the coaching staff because they want to try to 1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:36.919 win a game. But outside this, Pete, you've been saying 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:39.160 for a while, you got me on board earlier than 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:41.680 any other year it's ever happened on this show. But 1:04:42.000 --> 1:04:45.440 it doesn't matter for the long run because I'm not 1:04:45.560 --> 1:04:48.480 sure in the backup quarterbacks on the roster right now. Uh. 1:04:48.600 --> 1:04:51.160 We we said that earlier. I said he's not and 1:04:51.600 --> 1:04:54.560 and so now you're looking at and the question is 1:04:54.600 --> 1:04:57.920 how many guys you have that are viable NFL starters 1:04:59.040 --> 1:05:01.600 on this team and what can you build with the 1:05:01.680 --> 1:05:03.680 next year. And it's gonna be there's gonna be a 1:05:03.760 --> 1:05:06.040 new gm um. We're not gonna fired up. We're on 1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:07.960 this not our job, but most likely it sounds like 1:05:08.080 --> 1:05:10.200 to probably be a changed there as well. If we 1:05:10.480 --> 1:05:12.800 when you lose this many games, I mean, Doug wear 1:05:12.840 --> 1:05:15.240 of it. None of us like it. We all um 1:05:15.320 --> 1:05:17.720 want the best for the guys on that are coaches 1:05:17.760 --> 1:05:19.400 of this team because we have relationships with them. But 1:05:20.200 --> 1:05:21.920 at some point it kind of becomes is what it 1:05:22.080 --> 1:05:25.280 is story and you know they're gonna evaluate this thing, 1:05:25.360 --> 1:05:29.480 and now you're looking to next year, and unfortunately it's 1:05:29.520 --> 1:05:33.200 another year where you have the fan base way too 1:05:33.240 --> 1:05:36.640 early in the season saying, um, the most exciting thing 1:05:36.760 --> 1:05:38.040 is is who are we gonna draft? And who were 1:05:38.040 --> 1:05:40.360 gonna get free agency? And the thing that you add 1:05:40.400 --> 1:05:43.480 to the story this year, who's gonna be making the decisions? 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:47.280 So hopefully that changes here soon. You want to give 1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:50.200 a campaign speech again, No, and I didn't have a 1:05:50.280 --> 1:05:54.880 campaign last last week. Excuse me, I have no campaigns 1:05:55.240 --> 1:05:57.840 uh speech right now? I think the only speech I 1:05:57.880 --> 1:06:01.280 have is and Pete and JP. I think you can agree. 1:06:02.720 --> 1:06:04.520 This franchise has to get to the point where the 1:06:04.560 --> 1:06:07.520 most interesting stuff of the year is on Sundays during 1:06:07.560 --> 1:06:09.800 the fall and winter. That's what it needs into. It 1:06:09.920 --> 1:06:12.480 can't be the most interesting time of the year is 1:06:12.480 --> 1:06:14.960 in the off season when you're going through free agency 1:06:15.040 --> 1:06:17.440 and draft and that kind of not stuff that has 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:20.720 to be secondary. The good teams. That secondary the good 1:06:20.760 --> 1:06:23.920 teams Sundays the most exciting thing, and that's what everyone 1:06:23.960 --> 1:06:26.520 looks forward to in the market. It's the it's the 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:32.280 worst team in franchise history. And it's not close. Yeah, 1:06:33.280 --> 1:06:36.000 that's not close. And we Tony, we went through the 1:06:36.080 --> 1:06:39.160 whole starters from yesterday. Let's see if you agree with us. 1:06:39.160 --> 1:06:43.800 How many guys who started yesterday will be starters next year? 1:06:44.040 --> 1:06:47.720 Definite starters next year we'll start on defense. On defense first, 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:52.160 we'll go to defense. Um, definitely starters next year on defense. 1:06:52.280 --> 1:06:56.680 One to name them as you go. Miles Jack Joe 1:06:56.720 --> 1:06:59.440 Schobert will both be starters next year. It's not a 1:06:59.480 --> 1:07:02.680 defen he's not sold. There's a lot of money to start. 1:07:03.000 --> 1:07:06.000 He's a starter that year. You can't replace everything he's like, 1:07:06.800 --> 1:07:09.280 he's a good player. I'm not saying he's great on 1:07:09.360 --> 1:07:12.240 a team that is losing twelve straight on the pathway 1:07:12.280 --> 1:07:14.120 to lose. What if they what if they switch to it? 1:07:14.200 --> 1:07:15.560 What if they switched to a defense that was a 1:07:15.640 --> 1:07:17.840 three four and he had to play a different style. 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:21.000 I'm just telling you, if you can't replace all right, 1:07:21.040 --> 1:07:23.680 I said, I said almost on him. Okay, Okay, we'll 1:07:23.720 --> 1:07:28.280 count him so too. Okay, that's too that we're in 1:07:28.360 --> 1:07:31.640 the game yesterday. You're saying, yes, that started starters yesterday. 1:07:33.240 --> 1:07:36.920 There's two for sure. Is Cindey Jones starter next year. 1:07:38.040 --> 1:07:39.760 If you're saying for sure, I think he will be. 1:07:40.200 --> 1:07:43.680 Is it for sure? So you you're you have Scholbered 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:47.480 Is it for sure? Yeah? Okay, So there's next closest 1:07:47.480 --> 1:07:50.600 to me is Jared Wilson. So you got you got 1:07:50.680 --> 1:07:56.040 two definite though two different too definite, two maybes? Okay? 1:07:56.600 --> 1:08:09.440 Offense um in the game yesterday, I'm gonna say chart, 1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:12.960 I'm gonna say, James Robinson do we'd same as us? 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:21.320 Same as us? And then I'm gonna say, uh, what 1:08:21.439 --> 1:08:25.000 are you gonna say to the five lineman yesterday? We'll 1:08:25.000 --> 1:08:27.280 be back? I like a j campill be a starter? 1:08:27.520 --> 1:08:35.439 And that's four? What about chinal all right? If you're 1:08:35.479 --> 1:08:39.559 the three wide receiver set? Okay? So yeah, so basically 1:08:39.600 --> 1:08:41.639 it's a starter because you're usually in three wide receivers. 1:08:41.680 --> 1:08:46.479 So okay, so there's there's five and so you're not 1:08:46.640 --> 1:08:51.040 counting Cam Robinson. I noticed. I can't. I can't say 1:08:51.160 --> 1:08:53.080 it for sure started next year because I don't know 1:08:53.160 --> 1:08:55.680 what the financial situation is going to be based on 1:08:56.360 --> 1:08:59.920 the consistency in the second half of the season. If 1:09:00.280 --> 1:09:04.840 he wants seventeen eighteen ninety million dollars which left home. 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:06.400 I don't think you can pay him that much money. 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:12.360 So is bart starter at left guard next year? I 1:09:12.439 --> 1:09:15.320 would not know, I would bring would bring the world back. 1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:18.080 I thought he played better yesterday, though Tony. I didn't 1:09:18.080 --> 1:09:19.640 watch the tape, but on the TV it looked like 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:26.280 you guys keep saying that you don't think he played 1:09:26.320 --> 1:09:28.840 better yesterday, and I have did you watch the tape? 1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:32.760 Was he bad? No? I seem was bad? It was 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:37.519 he better? Sure going in the right direction? Sure? Am 1:09:37.520 --> 1:09:41.280 I ready to say he's a starter next year? That's 1:09:42.320 --> 1:09:44.479 we talked about the first how we saw this coming 1:09:44.520 --> 1:09:49.479 a mile away. You're not Anthony ccerio in him, are you? No? No, no, 1:09:49.640 --> 1:09:53.120 no no no. The first practice I walked up the field, 1:09:55.280 --> 1:09:59.320 I was like, right, well tell that story for him 1:09:59.320 --> 1:10:02.519 for those sud don't know quickly and God the rest 1:10:02.560 --> 1:10:04.479 of soul, because he passed away. And he's a great kid, 1:10:04.560 --> 1:10:06.960 a great guy. And I mean he was an offensive lineman. 1:10:07.560 --> 1:10:11.479 And we drafted a third fourth round peat third round 1:10:11.920 --> 1:10:14.960 get out of Colorado State. I mean, good dude, I 1:10:15.000 --> 1:10:18.200 mean I really liked them. And he came in and 1:10:18.520 --> 1:10:22.320 where maybe it was the first second practice practice. Remember 1:10:23.400 --> 1:10:25.400 I watched him getting this dance and we started doing 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:28.960 individual drills and this is no paths and we're going 1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:32.120 through stuff, and I just knew right away he he 1:10:32.240 --> 1:10:35.000 couldn't play at this level. Why he just wasn't athletic enough. 1:10:35.040 --> 1:10:37.800 He didn't have the feet and his hips and they're 1:10:37.880 --> 1:10:40.439 just something you can't teach, you you just tell. And 1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:43.400 I walked out the field and Priscoe. Actually the first 1:10:43.479 --> 1:10:45.400 person who grabbed me was Rick Reaper. She was a 1:10:45.479 --> 1:10:46.880 world college guy, and he was, what do you think? 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:48.479 And I looked at him and said, Rick, he can't play. 1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:50.920 There's no chance to you play. And then I saw 1:10:51.000 --> 1:10:52.439 Pete later he was what do you think of the kid? 1:10:52.479 --> 1:10:54.920 And I said, he can't play. I mean, I'll help. 1:10:55.240 --> 1:10:58.080 The first practice, I just knew. I can see, you 1:10:58.160 --> 1:11:00.680 can see it, and I and I tried to help 1:11:00.760 --> 1:11:02.560 him and liked them and wanted him to succeed. And 1:11:02.600 --> 1:11:05.160 did he get better? Yeah, But was he ever gonna 1:11:05.200 --> 1:11:08.840 be a starting caliber offensive lineman in this league. No, 1:11:09.000 --> 1:11:12.760 he just didn't have the ability, athletic ability, couldn't bend right, 1:11:12.840 --> 1:11:15.200 and things just and nothing he gets them. He's a 1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:17.960 good kid. God bless him. He got paid. Unfortunately, you know, 1:11:18.000 --> 1:11:19.800 I have had some health issues, so but you don't 1:11:19.840 --> 1:11:22.880 see that and bark. Okay, and here's the kicker to 1:11:22.960 --> 1:11:26.880 the s Sario story is the scouts had like a 1:11:26.960 --> 1:11:30.519 sixth round grade on him and Tom had a second 1:11:30.640 --> 1:11:33.559 round grade on then they drafted him in the third round. 1:11:34.600 --> 1:11:37.840 That's true. That's true. So I mean, but if you're 1:11:37.840 --> 1:11:43.120 asking me, I mean, I think there's um so four 1:11:43.240 --> 1:11:48.320 on offense, then two linemen Chart Robinson and five of five. 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:53.160 It's a lot of work to be done. Well, I mean, 1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:55.840 then you have to go to I mean, here's a 1:11:55.880 --> 1:12:02.040 better question. So you um play the Tennessee Titans yesterday. 1:12:02.560 --> 1:12:05.160 How many guys on the team would start on this 1:12:05.240 --> 1:12:11.599 team would start on that team yesterday? Good question? Okay, 1:12:12.280 --> 1:12:16.799 the best player would the best player either wide receivers 1:12:16.800 --> 1:12:20.720 beating out A. J. Brown or uh Corey Davis. The 1:12:20.760 --> 1:12:23.720 tight ends not gonna be out there? Um now, DJ 1:12:23.840 --> 1:12:27.040 Mett be a third receiver on that team? Um. Uh. 1:12:28.040 --> 1:12:30.519 The right tackles a wash I mean, and that's I 1:12:30.560 --> 1:12:33.800 mean dens Kelly, you probably Jowan probably being about they're 1:12:33.800 --> 1:12:38.920 all washed as across. I would say their left guard 1:12:39.000 --> 1:12:44.040 staffles better than Ben BArch so called the offensive line 1:12:44.080 --> 1:12:46.800 wash because they have a bunch of injuries. But by 1:12:46.800 --> 1:12:48.679 the way we're saying it's a wash, that's the third 1:12:48.760 --> 1:12:52.680 left tackle, Pete right right. Oh, you're the one who 1:12:52.760 --> 1:12:56.639 wasn't bake Cam Robinson nothing know. I just said, now, 1:12:57.200 --> 1:12:59.479 if you had up until up until today, you've been 1:12:59.520 --> 1:13:01.479 saying let him go. You got a pepper guy in 1:13:01.560 --> 1:13:02.880 front of them. I said, if you get them for 1:13:02.920 --> 1:13:04.720 the right price, which I won't change. If you get 1:13:04.800 --> 1:13:09.320 the right price, you not just price come down. Um. 1:13:09.360 --> 1:13:11.160 I think I was at twelve or four teen before 1:13:11.200 --> 1:13:16.760 I think I take Now, I would still take him 1:13:16.800 --> 1:13:22.840 over Queasenberry. I agree, But that's my point. But if 1:13:22.880 --> 1:13:25.479 you look at you're gonna pay for two million for 1:13:25.560 --> 1:13:29.120 a third tackle, you're not. My point is, if you 1:13:29.200 --> 1:13:32.000 go to there, I'll do it differently. Go to the 1:13:32.080 --> 1:13:33.960 starting group that you thought was the starting group in 1:13:34.040 --> 1:13:36.000 the season, and the starting group on their starting group 1:13:36.120 --> 1:13:39.840 on this season. The only you're taking the wan Um 1:13:40.120 --> 1:13:44.080 Staffold and Uh and Uh I'd probably take no, Rale, 1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:47.479 I take Linder, I can and the other kid are 1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:53.759 pretty much close. And you know, Uh, Kelly and Juwanni 1:13:53.840 --> 1:13:57.759 probably like, Okay, it's it's pretty close all the position. 1:13:57.880 --> 1:14:00.120 That's the that's the worst thing that you said, an 1:14:00.240 --> 1:14:03.400 entire thing is that it's close between Kelly and Taylor. 1:14:04.400 --> 1:14:06.160 If you just look at the play being, I'm like, 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:11.519 not like I think the ceiling is. But right now 1:14:12.120 --> 1:14:14.800 he's played to that hustle. He's played to a Dennis 1:14:14.920 --> 1:14:18.000 Kelly level. And that's a problem. And so I mean, 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:21.120 the reality is it's not just who do you think 1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:23.320 are gonna be starters on this team next year? At 1:14:23.600 --> 1:14:26.599 at sub level? Who cares? Because you're one of fifteen 1:14:27.960 --> 1:14:30.560 if you like you always say you gotta have some 1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:33.960 of them back. Yeah, you're missing My point, be what's 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:38.960 the goal now? The way the championship? Okay, so if 1:14:39.000 --> 1:14:42.040 the goal like next year, like the goals to win 1:14:42.080 --> 1:14:43.920 a championship next year too, Now you have to have 1:14:44.000 --> 1:14:46.240 a process to get there. And so yes, you're gonna 1:14:46.240 --> 1:14:48.639 have guys starting that might not be at the caliber 1:14:48.720 --> 1:14:51.720 you need them to be to get to that championship level. 1:14:51.800 --> 1:14:54.479 And you have to build it. It's gonna take time. Um, 1:14:54.960 --> 1:14:59.120 but you know, as you look at this over twelve games, 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:02.360 now we've had it, and you two things. You go 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:04.800 back to how do they beat the Colts week one? 1:15:07.760 --> 1:15:12.519 Philip through Joe twice, a team that didn't punt um 1:15:12.960 --> 1:15:16.439 And then you start looking at it and and it's 1:15:16.800 --> 1:15:20.439 a little bit flabbergasting in the sense of, you know, 1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:24.599 it's like, I don't know about you got JP and Pete. 1:15:24.640 --> 1:15:26.439 But you you start thinking about what we're gonna talk 1:15:26.439 --> 1:15:27.840 about on the show thing, and you don't want to 1:15:27.920 --> 1:15:30.240 negative all the time. You don't want to kill these 1:15:30.280 --> 1:15:33.320 guys because I respect them as professional athletes. I respect 1:15:33.400 --> 1:15:35.560 him because they worked hard. They respect him because that 1:15:35.680 --> 1:15:37.760 defense came out and played their tails off for a 1:15:37.840 --> 1:15:39.559 quarter and a half and then it was just too much. 1:15:41.200 --> 1:15:43.880 And you know, you respect the coaches because they're putting 1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:46.400 time in. But at the same time, it's a result, 1:15:46.520 --> 1:15:50.799 a result prianted printed business. If you don't get results, 1:15:51.600 --> 1:15:57.360 you're not getting I mean, who cares? What is Matthew? 1:15:58.120 --> 1:15:59.920 And people are tired of here in their hard work 1:16:00.000 --> 1:16:03.080 and plan the sick of it. It pains me to 1:16:03.200 --> 1:16:07.599 say it. And anybody who's been in the NFL player 1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:12.559 coach anything, you know, look, hard work and dedication. Everything 1:16:12.600 --> 1:16:14.719 I was gonna make, they're not gonna make bad players 1:16:14.760 --> 1:16:17.840 And good players were the first of all hard work 1:16:18.120 --> 1:16:20.680 and dedication and being a pro. That should mean like 1:16:21.000 --> 1:16:25.920 just the base expectation. Get out of here, like we 1:16:25.960 --> 1:16:27.960 don't want you like. You need to get a bunch 1:16:27.960 --> 1:16:30.560 of pros on your team. That's the first thing. A 1:16:30.640 --> 1:16:32.559 bunch of guys who love here's the thing you need 1:16:32.600 --> 1:16:33.760 to get. You need to get a bunch of guys 1:16:33.800 --> 1:16:37.320 who love football, not love being an NFL player. Correct, 1:16:37.720 --> 1:16:40.080 They love the game, don't love being the trappings of 1:16:40.120 --> 1:16:43.360 the game. They love the game. That's the basics. Jps 1:16:43.400 --> 1:16:45.560 chopping at the bid for a break. 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The Scenes 1:20:11.200 --> 1:20:14.519 is ready with your office solutions can seven one to 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:17.200 S seven nine or visit S I S, s I 1:20:17.479 --> 1:20:37.880 n e S dot com today. M HM Jaguar's Happy 1:20:37.920 --> 1:20:40.160 Hour is presented in part by t i A, a 1:20:40.280 --> 1:20:45.080 bank created to serve, built to perform publis where shopping 1:20:45.200 --> 1:20:48.880 is a pleasure and Baptist Health changing healthcare for good. 1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:57.920 You know, Mike, you know to the pic and you know, um, 1:20:58.520 --> 1:21:00.600 you know, and we were behind. I really wanted to 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.000 try to get a spark and thinking that you know, Gardner, 1:21:03.040 --> 1:21:05.519 could you know, extend plays and and make some plays 1:21:05.560 --> 1:21:09.360 with his feet, and he did that. Head coach Doug 1:21:09.439 --> 1:21:12.720 Marone after the game yesterday explaining the quarterback change and 1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:15.320 the loss to the Titans, and welcome back to Jaguars 1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:18.960 Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick Pete Frisco Tony Boselli has 1:21:19.040 --> 1:21:22.599 joined us in the second hour, and Pete, right before 1:21:22.640 --> 1:21:26.040 the break, you promised to ask Tony the question that 1:21:26.200 --> 1:21:29.599 we both were discussing earlier in the first hour about 1:21:29.960 --> 1:21:34.080 possible first round trades to go up Tony, would you 1:21:34.160 --> 1:21:37.320 give up your first round pick this year in a 1:21:37.439 --> 1:21:40.639 second round pick next year, your second first round pick, 1:21:41.520 --> 1:21:46.800 the two first round picks to go up to one? Yeah, 1:21:46.840 --> 1:21:49.719 you give up you give up your two your second 1:21:49.760 --> 1:21:51.920 first round pick and a second next year to go 1:21:52.040 --> 1:21:56.920 up one spot. Yes, we all though we all agreed 1:21:57.600 --> 1:22:01.080 we do so, two first rounders, right, the second rounder 1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:07.000 next year? Yes, yes, yes, in a herpeat right. Yeah. 1:22:07.040 --> 1:22:10.400 I mean now, I'm saying that now based on what 1:22:10.479 --> 1:22:12.200 I know about Trevor Lawrence and the rest of the 1:22:12.280 --> 1:22:15.080 field as quarterbacks or justin fields is put on words 1:22:15.439 --> 1:22:17.160 and and the rest of the other guys that you 1:22:17.200 --> 1:22:19.800 would consider it that. Um So, based on what I 1:22:19.880 --> 1:22:22.800 know now, my perception is, and have not done any 1:22:22.880 --> 1:22:25.240 work on this, by the way, my perception is that 1:22:25.280 --> 1:22:29.600 Trevor Lawrence is like, uh like much higher number of 1:22:29.760 --> 1:22:32.080 a couple of notches above the rest of the group. 1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:36.320 And based on that difference, UM would deter how much 1:22:36.400 --> 1:22:38.720 a difference or what that delta is will determine how 1:22:38.800 --> 1:22:40.400 much I'm going to give up. Based on what I 1:22:40.479 --> 1:22:43.840 believe now, what you just said, I would do immediately. Yeah, 1:22:43.880 --> 1:22:46.719 I would too. And and again I don't like giving 1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:48.599 up that kind of draft in capitable. You go get 1:22:48.640 --> 1:22:50.680 that guy. You go get them if you can get them, 1:22:51.320 --> 1:22:53.920 if you can get them, you go get them. I mean, 1:22:54.000 --> 1:22:57.240 did you guys, anybody watched Wilson the other night for 1:22:57.439 --> 1:23:02.000 b y U who he was spinning it the other night. 1:23:02.040 --> 1:23:05.559 I'll tell you that he looks like he's about fifteen, 1:23:05.680 --> 1:23:08.720 but he's got it. They did a hail Mary and 1:23:08.800 --> 1:23:13.840 he threw it like seventy yards. He can, I mean, 1:23:14.040 --> 1:23:16.519 and he's pretty accurate. He's pretty accurate to and he 1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:21.000 can move around. He's intriguing. He really is. So like 1:23:21.080 --> 1:23:22.760 you have to like you have to evaluate all this 1:23:22.880 --> 1:23:25.800 because here's the other question. If you had Okay, let's 1:23:25.800 --> 1:23:27.479 say Trevor Lawrence is up here and you can't move 1:23:27.560 --> 1:23:30.320 up because the Jets are taking him, um, no matter what, 1:23:31.000 --> 1:23:35.040 And would you move back if someone really wants fields? 1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:38.280 Would you move back two or three spots get Wilson 1:23:39.160 --> 1:23:44.320 and get extra picks? That takes us right into our 1:23:44.479 --> 1:23:48.439 social media questions. Let's go right into him tonight, number 1:23:48.520 --> 1:23:51.400 one from a s bus and to fight seven, could 1:23:51.520 --> 1:23:54.639 we consider trading back to number six with Carolina, who's 1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:57.120 looking for a quarterback? We take Wilson and take advantage 1:23:57.120 --> 1:23:58.479 of what we were seved from that trade to trade 1:23:58.560 --> 1:24:00.720 up and get pits. Sounds like a good first round 1:24:00.760 --> 1:24:03.080 to me, with a franchise quarterback and a deadly weapon. 1:24:04.800 --> 1:24:07.960 Well okay, but there's so many things here to consider. Um, 1:24:08.040 --> 1:24:10.080 so if you move back to six, it's pretty far back. 1:24:10.320 --> 1:24:14.200 And so, uh, you know who's picking third, three, four, 1:24:14.240 --> 1:24:17.719 and five? Do they need a quarterback? Are they interested 1:24:17.760 --> 1:24:21.040 in the guy you want? Because the other theory here 1:24:21.640 --> 1:24:23.760 and the Giants got all kinds of criticism a couple 1:24:23.760 --> 1:24:25.960 of years ago when they felt like people thought they 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:28.320 took Daniel Jones too early that they could have moved 1:24:28.360 --> 1:24:30.240 back four or five spots and still got down to 1:24:30.240 --> 1:24:33.000 the Jones. And the argument the flip side of that is, 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:36.080 if you know he's your guy, and you know he's 1:24:36.120 --> 1:24:39.840 a franchise quarterback, don't risk missing out on take him 1:24:40.280 --> 1:24:42.360 instead of trying to be cute. Moved back a couple 1:24:42.360 --> 1:24:44.519 of spots, maybe get a pick here or there, and 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:46.040 then you end up missing on it because there's no 1:24:46.080 --> 1:24:48.360 guarantees that someone else isn't gonna move back up and 1:24:48.439 --> 1:24:50.200 take the guy you want, and you have to get 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:53.400 a quarterback if you're Jacksonville, in my opinion, i'd be 1:24:53.640 --> 1:24:56.160 I'd be careful of that. Yeah, you gotta be careful 1:24:56.200 --> 1:24:58.560 with it. But but if it's it workable and you 1:24:58.600 --> 1:25:00.080 could do it and you don't have a different that 1:25:00.160 --> 1:25:02.519 big a difference in the grave between Fields and Wilson, 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:04.840 then maybe you do that and get the extra picks. 1:25:04.880 --> 1:25:06.920 But you gotta, like Tony said, you gotta make sure 1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:09.320 that you get your guy. By the way, you know, 1:25:09.960 --> 1:25:12.000 JP you did the game the other day, I saw 1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:16.040 you send out your your call to kick yeah Florida 1:25:16.120 --> 1:25:18.800 with the deal with Pitt So he was a late 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:22.080 scratch Florida said that he went through free game warmups 1:25:22.160 --> 1:25:26.200 and reaggravated an injury from the week before, and then 1:25:26.200 --> 1:25:30.040 it was a late scratch and then and then there 1:25:30.120 --> 1:25:34.479 were some tweets after the game, of course from Kyle Pitts. 1:25:34.560 --> 1:25:37.280 There was one with the three dots, you know. Um, 1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:40.040 there was a couple of those type of tweets from him, 1:25:40.600 --> 1:25:43.679 so it made it seem like he wasn't so happy 1:25:43.720 --> 1:25:46.760 about that decision. I know, they certainly missed him down 1:25:46.800 --> 1:25:50.680 around the goal line earlier in that game. They missed him. 1:25:51.000 --> 1:25:53.320 They missed him, But there's more to that story. There's 1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:57.040 something hot, there's something up with that and um, and 1:25:57.160 --> 1:26:00.160 he's a great player. But I will say that us 1:26:00.520 --> 1:26:03.240 there are some really good tight ends out there. I 1:26:03.280 --> 1:26:05.240 don't know if you watch the Miami game the other night, 1:26:05.320 --> 1:26:07.840 but they're tight end. Jordan Brevin Jordan's the heck of 1:26:07.880 --> 1:26:10.000 a player as well. So there are a lot of 1:26:10.080 --> 1:26:12.800 tight ends out there. But there's something that that one 1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:16.000 needs more investigating. Because when he when he's up, he's 1:26:16.000 --> 1:26:18.560 the best in the country. Easy. Yeah, we'll let you 1:26:18.600 --> 1:26:20.760 guys investigate that another day. I don't really care why 1:26:20.800 --> 1:26:22.840 you didn't play at that point at this point, Um, 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:27.200 I just I mean, I'll go back to answer again. 1:26:27.240 --> 1:26:30.320 I would be I would be I would be risk adverse. 1:26:31.000 --> 1:26:32.960 Backing up, if I knew there was a guy W 1:26:33.080 --> 1:26:35.680 wanted and if I have them and I can take them, 1:26:36.000 --> 1:26:39.240 I'm taking them because there's too many things that come 1:26:39.280 --> 1:26:41.240 into it and you gotta be careful and you just 1:26:41.280 --> 1:26:45.160 look at recent history. So um, going back to the question, Pete, 1:26:45.360 --> 1:26:47.960 would you trade to ones and next year's two to 1:26:48.040 --> 1:26:51.760 get Trevor Lawrence? Um? Would you trade right now with 1:26:51.880 --> 1:26:54.720 this with the Los Angeles Chargers? Would you trade C J. 1:26:54.840 --> 1:26:59.280 Henderson and then and Chase On for Justin Herbert? Yes? 1:26:59.640 --> 1:27:03.240 And then stiff like, yeah, I mean that's nothing he 1:27:03.479 --> 1:27:09.200 is U C J? Or uh um or Chason. My 1:27:09.360 --> 1:27:11.680 point there is the quarterbacks at important. You gotta get 1:27:11.760 --> 1:27:16.880 that right, right, So how about the Okay, let's go 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:19.200 back to the draft. A couple of years ago. It 1:27:19.360 --> 1:27:23.280 was Mayfield one and Lamar Jackson won the m v P. 1:27:23.400 --> 1:27:24.960 But the guy you take right now would be Josh 1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.519 Allen in an instant. Well, you only bring that up 1:27:27.560 --> 1:27:29.640 because you called that one from day one, and you 1:27:30.040 --> 1:27:34.880 I'm just's you love no I've been wrong before. I 1:27:34.920 --> 1:27:37.160 believe me. I thought Christian Pondner would be good, so 1:27:41.320 --> 1:27:46.080 you probably did too. No, I did, But I think 1:27:46.120 --> 1:27:48.120 you gotta you have to look when you get if 1:27:48.120 --> 1:27:50.840 you got an opportunity to go get the guy, you 1:27:50.960 --> 1:27:56.880 get them, get them right, all right? Next question, Yes, sorry, Tony, 1:27:57.080 --> 1:28:00.559 We're gonna move along here at Waco Garena from Argentina. Hi, Guys, 1:28:00.600 --> 1:28:03.040 which Jags players are in the last year the contracts 1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:05.200 that you think will be extended and which players from 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:07.160 free agency would you like to see until next year? 1:28:07.360 --> 1:28:13.920 Free agency? Is who's under who's under the last year 1:28:13.960 --> 1:28:17.960 of contract that you need to sign? The one guy 1:28:18.080 --> 1:28:21.200 I'll give you a couple, Um d wants mood is 1:28:21.200 --> 1:28:23.479 a good rotational player and he's but you're not gonna. 1:28:23.560 --> 1:28:26.040 You're not gonna. You don't need to sign him, but 1:28:26.200 --> 1:28:29.360 you'd like to sign him. You like it to sign 1:28:29.720 --> 1:28:37.559 Heske need like you have to sign Yeah? Nobody zero? Okay, 1:28:38.560 --> 1:28:46.760 Well well then okay, moving along our next question? Okay, then, 1:28:47.880 --> 1:28:50.000 I mean, but you have to define need. You do 1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:52.160 need to sign a couple of these guys because you 1:28:52.240 --> 1:28:54.360 can't just you're not gonna do it all in free agency. 1:28:54.800 --> 1:28:57.000 Like I would say, dwant Smooth for the right price. 1:28:57.080 --> 1:29:00.679 I'm still looking at Cam Robinson. Um, you've got another 1:29:00.720 --> 1:29:04.120 guy in Sydney Jones, who you know can compete for 1:29:04.200 --> 1:29:06.240 a starting corner and you'll probablyly get him at the 1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:08.680 right price. So there are a handful of guys like 1:29:08.800 --> 1:29:12.200 that that you have to look at. But if you're talking, um, 1:29:14.400 --> 1:29:17.479 is there a franchise player coming up for contract this 1:29:17.680 --> 1:29:21.479 year that you want to get signed a SAP because 1:29:21.479 --> 1:29:23.400 you don't want to hit the free free agency. I 1:29:23.479 --> 1:29:25.599 don't think that the team has one of those guys. 1:29:26.120 --> 1:29:28.680 Maybe maybe they go out and side and he can 1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:35.160 go away. Yeah, you know, but you look at the 1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:39.080 Dwan Smooth, there are guys available. By the way, Tyson 1:29:39.160 --> 1:29:44.360 Ala was going to be in the band's getting back together, 1:29:44.520 --> 1:29:48.720 freaking Mercedes Flower at it. I mean it's just when 1:29:48.800 --> 1:29:54.439 you look at it, Okay, would you pay Leonard Williams point, 1:29:54.439 --> 1:29:58.040 he's played good this year? He really, But what you 1:29:58.120 --> 1:29:59.760 worry about this is the place you thought he was 1:29:59.800 --> 1:30:02.240 in all along and it came to his contract year 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:04.800 to get like he's always been good, but this year 1:30:04.880 --> 1:30:07.800 he's like dominating at time, and so what do you 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:10.120 if you pay him, and he's probably gonna cost you, 1:30:10.560 --> 1:30:14.360 you know, between eighteen and twenty one million to get him. 1:30:15.360 --> 1:30:19.160 Do you get that consistent effort? But like you always, Okay, 1:30:19.200 --> 1:30:21.800 here's one. I'll give you this one. What about Trey 1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:27.800 Hendrickson h d end from New Orleans? Great this year? Yeah, 1:30:28.360 --> 1:30:31.080 and you know what, He's probably gonna be a middle 1:30:31.120 --> 1:30:33.360 of the road type of guy as far as the 1:30:33.439 --> 1:30:35.080 number you have to pay him. Yeah, I mean, I 1:30:35.120 --> 1:30:37.000 think those are the type of guys that you know, 1:30:37.080 --> 1:30:40.080 he's always been. He's always been a guy who loves ball, 1:30:40.160 --> 1:30:43.759 you can tell. Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean he's interesting. 1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:47.280 Let's listen. I said it, and you go back to 1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:51.679 the tape longs I argued about it, Dante Fallers draft, 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:53.840 it was Leonard Williams or Dante five. Said I would 1:30:53.840 --> 1:30:58.360 take Leonard Williams big, and I thought he has never 1:30:58.560 --> 1:31:00.479 he hasn't played to what I thought he would be though. No, 1:31:00.600 --> 1:31:03.400 but he's always been a very good run defender and 1:31:03.800 --> 1:31:05.680 this year has become a pretty good pass rusher too. 1:31:07.439 --> 1:31:11.320 Remember he played that three two gap defense with the Jets. 1:31:11.760 --> 1:31:14.519 So it's a different type of deal. So you get 1:31:14.680 --> 1:31:18.400 Leonard Williams and a guy like Hendricks, Addam to Allen 1:31:18.680 --> 1:31:22.840 and Hambleton's cha right there. That's a pretty good front. 1:31:23.360 --> 1:31:25.479 And so I like depending on the price tag. I mean, 1:31:25.520 --> 1:31:27.280 the one thing like I would really want to do 1:31:27.360 --> 1:31:29.519 a deep dive and you know, let her lender Williams 1:31:29.520 --> 1:31:33.679 is from Daytona right down the road. Um, I wanted 1:31:33.680 --> 1:31:35.519 to do a deep dive and making sure I know 1:31:35.680 --> 1:31:39.920 him from sc my experiences with Leondard Williams. Great dude, um, 1:31:40.000 --> 1:31:42.360 but she just wanted to make sure, like what happened 1:31:42.439 --> 1:31:44.320 this year? Is it just being in a better system 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:47.640 that he had that led to the production? Like what 1:31:47.880 --> 1:31:50.320 is it? But he is a force to be record 1:31:51.160 --> 1:31:55.759 by the way Hendricks, Leonard Williams, they're in that perfect 1:31:55.840 --> 1:32:00.760 gage bracket. Oh yeah right, our next questions mission from 1:32:00.960 --> 1:32:03.840 at Brandon Bush Street one seven Hall of Fame Talk. 1:32:04.040 --> 1:32:06.400 I've been watching freddie te highlights and two things come 1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:08.760 to mind. One he deserves to be in and two 1:32:08.920 --> 1:32:11.560 on all the highlights you see Tony absolutely pummeling the 1:32:11.640 --> 1:32:14.840 defensive end tenor Tony yards down the field. Tony gets 1:32:14.880 --> 1:32:16.680 in this year and leads away for Fred just like 1:32:16.840 --> 1:32:19.280 he did on the field. Yeah. Well, you know what 1:32:19.360 --> 1:32:21.040 they don't do. They don't show the runs where Fred 1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:23.040 got dumb for two year and loss and to sell 1:32:23.120 --> 1:32:24.960 the guy knifed in front of him and dropped him 1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:26.880 for the loss. They don't They don't show that on 1:32:26.960 --> 1:32:35.560 the highlight. Why yeah, why did I know he was 1:32:35.600 --> 1:32:41.160 gonna say? Look, Tony should get in the Hall this year, 1:32:41.640 --> 1:32:44.880 and I think he will, and Fred should be in 1:32:44.960 --> 1:32:47.599 the hall. There's no question about if Fred Taylor should 1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:50.000 be in the Hall of Fame. So once Tony goes in, 1:32:50.479 --> 1:32:53.560 I think dan it spurs the momentum to get Fred in. 1:32:54.000 --> 1:32:57.000 Look edwun James is going in this year. Uh wait, 1:32:57.000 --> 1:32:58.639 he went in last year, but he's gonna get inducted 1:32:58.960 --> 1:33:02.240 this year. Coming up two, Fred Taylor was a better 1:33:02.320 --> 1:33:09.519 running back than Edger and James. I'm sorry he was. Okay, yeah, yeah, 1:33:09.600 --> 1:33:11.560 Tony doesn't want to talk about himself. Let's go to 1:33:11.760 --> 1:33:20.120 uh social question. The next one from at buck Eye 1:33:20.240 --> 1:33:23.000 nine oh four. Curious if Pete has scouted any of 1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:26.920 the other quarterbacks besides Fields and Lawrence. If so, who 1:33:27.000 --> 1:33:29.240 he feels is the second best quarterback in this draft. 1:33:29.320 --> 1:33:31.400 We can't get this wrong again. I may not survive 1:33:31.479 --> 1:33:35.599 that hashtag Pete the Scout, hashtag go Jags, hashtag JP 1:33:36.000 --> 1:33:40.880 is the Glue. I got the voted for you too 1:33:40.920 --> 1:33:45.160 in that poll. Thank you for the votes. Um. I 1:33:45.240 --> 1:33:49.000 think Wilson's the third quarterback and I'm intrigued by him. 1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:51.000 I gotta watch him some more of a boy when 1:33:51.040 --> 1:33:53.559 you watch him and he can move around, he's athletic. 1:33:54.360 --> 1:33:58.960 He does look like he's fifteen though he could pass 1:33:59.320 --> 1:34:04.040 dustin field. Yes, do I think he will? I don't know, 1:34:04.280 --> 1:34:07.840 but good he yes. I mean they're done. I think 1:34:07.960 --> 1:34:12.639 b y You's done playing and Fields has the Big 1:34:12.680 --> 1:34:16.559 Ten championship this week, and then he'll play in the playoffs, 1:34:16.680 --> 1:34:20.599 and so look in the playoffs, everybody goes, oh, we'll see, 1:34:20.680 --> 1:34:23.400 we'll see in the postseason. And not like Clemson or 1:34:23.400 --> 1:34:29.760 Alabama has good defenses, are correct, so we'll get but 1:34:29.920 --> 1:34:32.120 but they do have athletes. It's always good to see 1:34:32.200 --> 1:34:34.920 him because in the Big Ten a lot of those 1:34:34.960 --> 1:34:37.080 teams aren't that good. And so when you see him 1:34:37.120 --> 1:34:39.400 play Alabama and Clemson, you get to see him play 1:34:39.400 --> 1:34:43.120 against NFL caliber athletes. You're seeing that Ohio State per 1:34:43.200 --> 1:34:46.320 Due is not quite the matchup you're looking for in 1:34:46.400 --> 1:34:49.599 the Big Ten Championship is Ohio State Northwestern and Patrick 1:34:49.720 --> 1:34:51.240 Joe has done a great job with that team, but 1:34:51.760 --> 1:34:57.600 they're not that good head coaching candidate. Yes, yes, what 1:34:57.640 --> 1:34:59.479 does it make sense for the Bears to blow their 1:34:59.479 --> 1:35:02.280 whole thing up and bringing fat Pat fitz Gerald? Do 1:35:02.400 --> 1:35:04.559 you think you know what his style would translate into 1:35:04.560 --> 1:35:07.679 the NFL? I don't know him. I don't, Yes, I do, Yes, 1:35:07.760 --> 1:35:15.800 I do. Our final question from see stevs uh, well 1:35:15.840 --> 1:35:17.519 you look at it. You tell me what that says 1:35:18.680 --> 1:35:24.720 is Steve? It's Steve? Yes, see Steves. See Steve's is 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:27.800 Chart's attitude and effort a concern. He's not fighting through 1:35:27.880 --> 1:35:29.719 coverage back to the ball and not making the extra 1:35:29.720 --> 1:35:33.000 effort on tougher catches and seems visibly disinterested. Should he 1:35:33.080 --> 1:35:35.800 be a priority signing this season or should we make 1:35:35.880 --> 1:35:39.160 him play it out another year before extending? And there 1:35:39.240 --> 1:35:41.800 you go. That's that's the second one we've heard that from. 1:35:41.920 --> 1:35:44.120 Did you Tony on the tape? Did you see him 1:35:44.479 --> 1:35:47.400 not being as interested and not being as into it 1:35:47.479 --> 1:35:49.240 as he should have been, because we've seen that earlier 1:35:49.320 --> 1:35:51.840 in the year. You know, he doesn't have a great 1:35:51.840 --> 1:35:54.400 body language, at the time, and because you can tell 1:35:54.439 --> 1:35:56.320 he's frustrated, which I don't think is a player you 1:35:56.320 --> 1:35:59.760 should ever do. Because um can be frustrated, you make 1:35:59.840 --> 1:36:02.479 him steak, which is fine, But you don't want to 1:36:02.520 --> 1:36:04.840 be frustrated a teammate on the field because it's almost 1:36:04.840 --> 1:36:06.680 like you're calling that individual out a little bit, and 1:36:06.720 --> 1:36:08.960 that's what you're gonna be careful if you had those 1:36:09.000 --> 1:36:12.000 guys throw, you'd be frustrated too. I'm not saying his 1:36:12.120 --> 1:36:15.880 frustration is unwarranted, Beat, I'm saying it's as as you 1:36:16.000 --> 1:36:17.560 mature as a player. You can't do that. If you 1:36:17.600 --> 1:36:18.920 want to be a team leader, if you want to 1:36:18.920 --> 1:36:22.160 be the guy, you can't do that. Um, he's not 1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:24.879 having a great year. But now, is it the quarterback? 1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:26.840 Is it him? Is in a combination of both? Is 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:29.240 it the injuries? There's a lot going on this year, 1:36:29.760 --> 1:36:33.000 and UM, I still think he's a future building block 1:36:33.040 --> 1:36:34.560 of this team. I still think that you have to 1:36:35.160 --> 1:36:37.120 try to see if you can work out a deal 1:36:37.200 --> 1:36:41.240 this offseason if it's possible. Um, But there's no doubt 1:36:41.479 --> 1:36:43.679 he's not having the season he expects or anyone else. 1:36:43.720 --> 1:36:45.400 And there's no doubt his body link which is not 1:36:45.520 --> 1:36:48.760 very good. So did you see any loafing yesterday? I 1:36:48.800 --> 1:36:51.920 didn't see loafing. No, I'm like, for me to call 1:36:52.000 --> 1:36:55.000 it out, that's not trying or loafing. It has to 1:36:55.080 --> 1:36:57.800 be like obvious, kind of like the Cowboys, like the 1:36:57.880 --> 1:37:01.679 Cowboys last week. Yeah, has to be obvious, obvious, obvious. 1:37:01.800 --> 1:37:06.040 So like watching um, you know he got you can 1:37:06.080 --> 1:37:08.680 tell he's frustrated. Malcolm Butler did a good job on him, 1:37:08.760 --> 1:37:12.640 and he got frustrated. Uh, you know, and some of 1:37:12.680 --> 1:37:15.200 the balls were so poorly thrown. You know, I think 1:37:15.280 --> 1:37:16.760 he just was like, what am I supposed to do 1:37:16.840 --> 1:37:19.719 with it? Uh? Now, couldn't It could be a fought 1:37:19.760 --> 1:37:21.600 back maybe on that deep ball, but I think it 1:37:21.680 --> 1:37:23.840 was almost out of bounds at the same time. So 1:37:24.400 --> 1:37:27.960 you know, maybe you could question and maybe say, man like, 1:37:28.120 --> 1:37:30.679 just even if there's not a chance, just fighting through 1:37:31.200 --> 1:37:33.760 and trying to give a great um effort and show 1:37:33.840 --> 1:37:37.360 great intention would be a good thing. But I didn't 1:37:37.400 --> 1:37:39.920 see anything where like you're saying, oh my gosh, he's 1:37:40.040 --> 1:37:42.599 you know, giving up, or he's lower or he quit um. 1:37:42.680 --> 1:37:45.120 I I didn't see that. Um is their plays that 1:37:45.200 --> 1:37:47.160 I'm sure he watches on tape and which is he's 1:37:47.200 --> 1:37:49.960 got back? Um? Does he need to create more separation? 1:37:50.200 --> 1:37:53.040 Could his routes be crisper at the top of him? Um? 1:37:53.640 --> 1:37:56.800 You know, could he help his quarterback out a little bit? Sure? Um, 1:37:57.439 --> 1:38:00.240 I mean he's not without fault. I mean it's not 1:38:00.320 --> 1:38:02.600 like he can't get better. But if you're asking me, 1:38:03.000 --> 1:38:05.360 has it changed my opinion of wanting him on back 1:38:05.439 --> 1:38:07.680 on the team? Um, that he and that he's one 1:38:07.680 --> 1:38:09.519 of the young good players. I have not changed my 1:38:09.600 --> 1:38:13.160 opinion on the nine targets to about JP. We didn't 1:38:13.160 --> 1:38:17.639 ask Tony about Minshew yesterday. Let's take your time out. 1:38:17.800 --> 1:38:23.040 We'll come back and get Tony's assessment. Think, Yeah, JP, 1:38:23.120 --> 1:38:25.360 I don't think we need to do the air, the 1:38:25.600 --> 1:38:27.800 power rankings, any of that stuff. 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I apologize, So your comment was fair. JP. 1:43:01.840 --> 1:43:03.519 Keep my mouth shut. If you can't make the first 1:43:03.560 --> 1:43:08.960 part of your dang job fair, No comeback from the 1:43:09.000 --> 1:43:12.760 golf course. But you know whatever first less you would puts, 1:43:12.880 --> 1:43:15.080 you would put the Jaguars ahead of the Texans. Anyways, 1:43:15.520 --> 1:43:17.400 if you're gonna say I was on the golf course 1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:19.639 one more time, JP, I might come down there, find 1:43:19.720 --> 1:43:27.479 you and abuse you. Well, then Okay, how about how 1:43:27.479 --> 1:43:30.720 about them Apples? How about them um Let's start with 1:43:30.800 --> 1:43:33.320 a quarterback talk. Then we'll get to the draft order 1:43:33.600 --> 1:43:36.000 in a moment. So I don't think that matters either 1:43:36.360 --> 1:43:40.040 number two, but everyone, there's no way they can't be 1:43:40.160 --> 1:43:43.000 number two now, right, yes it is. They lose this. 1:43:43.240 --> 1:43:46.320 If they lose this weekend and the Bengals win, then 1:43:46.360 --> 1:43:49.960 there's no chance. Remember, they only have a one game 1:43:50.240 --> 1:43:52.320 they have. The Jaguars have a one game cusher. If 1:43:52.320 --> 1:43:55.479 they win one game, they win one or the next three, 1:43:55.800 --> 1:43:57.840 they still have the number two pick. If they win 1:43:57.960 --> 1:43:59.960 two of the next three and the Bengals don't win anymore, 1:44:00.040 --> 1:44:06.680 or they have the three pick, which which is the 1:44:06.720 --> 1:44:08.439 next three year, they have a chance to Okay, they're 1:44:08.479 --> 1:44:18.240 not being the Ravens Chicago Bears. Come on. Even if 1:44:18.280 --> 1:44:20.840 they beat the Bears, they still would have the number 1:44:20.840 --> 1:44:24.920 two picks. The locked in at number two, so we 1:44:24.960 --> 1:44:27.080 don't need to do the draft power right, So when 1:44:27.600 --> 1:44:29.439 to the quarterback do something else? Let's go all right, 1:44:29.479 --> 1:44:32.000 So Glennon started yesterday, he gets pulled, He threw for 1:44:32.080 --> 1:44:34.160 eighty five yards and two and a half quarters, and 1:44:34.200 --> 1:44:37.320 the gardner Minshew comes in well, did you make of 1:44:37.439 --> 1:44:42.000 the Mints Show's day yesterday, Tony? I didn't make much 1:44:42.040 --> 1:44:44.439 of it at all. I'm being honest. I came in 1:44:45.120 --> 1:44:48.599 three the games, like the defense has changed, the tempo 1:44:48.640 --> 1:44:52.200 of the game change. Um, you know, I think one 1:44:52.280 --> 1:44:54.960 passing through you know, maybe one or two passes traveled 1:44:55.040 --> 1:44:58.599 more than five yards. Uh. And so does he give 1:44:58.640 --> 1:45:01.120 you something more than those other guy eyes, with his um, 1:45:02.280 --> 1:45:05.840 with his feet, his legs. Absolutely he does. Is he 1:45:05.880 --> 1:45:07.760 gonna extend it yes? Is he gonna get out of 1:45:07.760 --> 1:45:10.560 there quicker than he should? Yes? Um. Some of the 1:45:10.600 --> 1:45:13.880 balls at the end were not accurate at all. Um? 1:45:14.080 --> 1:45:18.320 Is that rust? Possibly? So it was like, okay, like nothing, 1:45:18.560 --> 1:45:21.920 I'll say this. Nothing I saw like. I'm fine with 1:45:22.000 --> 1:45:24.960 Doug naming him the starter. Whatever, that's great. I've said it, 1:45:25.040 --> 1:45:28.280 I said it last week. Whatever. Whatever Doug thinks, I'm 1:45:28.280 --> 1:45:31.280 gonna trust he's with it. He has a vested interest 1:45:31.320 --> 1:45:34.760 of winning games. I am now in Pete's corner. Like 1:45:34.920 --> 1:45:37.880 it or not, I'm thinking about next year. I'm not 1:45:37.960 --> 1:45:40.880 saying that's right. I'm just telling you I'm thinking about 1:45:40.960 --> 1:45:43.040 what does this team need to do so that I'm 1:45:43.080 --> 1:45:46.600 not talking about next year. During the season. Ever again, like, 1:45:46.680 --> 1:45:48.559 I don't like this. I don't like talking about next 1:45:48.600 --> 1:45:50.160 year when we have games to play. I don't like 1:45:50.240 --> 1:45:53.479 talking about people have relationships with possibly losing their jobs. 1:45:53.720 --> 1:45:56.160 I don't like like. I don't like being this negative stuff. 1:45:56.200 --> 1:45:58.360 So I am now looking forward. So if Gardner mits, 1:45:58.360 --> 1:46:02.439 who starts, great, I see anything that makes me go Yep, 1:46:03.680 --> 1:46:11.519 he's the guy. Let's build around it. No nothing, nothing, Yes, 1:46:12.080 --> 1:46:14.280 you watch the tape on the run when he left 1:46:14.320 --> 1:46:16.639 the clean pocket, he ran for thirteen yards? Was there anybody? 1:46:16.720 --> 1:46:18.400 Was there somebody open that he could have hit down 1:46:18.439 --> 1:46:22.760 the field? I couldn't tell. But you know, in this league, 1:46:22.840 --> 1:46:27.200 like I'm talking about NFL Open Open, I have to 1:46:27.240 --> 1:46:29.400 go back and look at that exact play. But here's 1:46:29.400 --> 1:46:31.800 what I don't see him very often throwing into tight 1:46:31.840 --> 1:46:36.599 windows and throwing people open, or anticipating where they're going 1:46:36.800 --> 1:46:38.880 and throwing it in over the middle of the field 1:46:39.000 --> 1:46:42.160 into anticipation where they're going. I just don't see that 1:46:42.240 --> 1:46:44.040 a lot. I'm not trying to be critical of the 1:46:44.080 --> 1:46:47.679 young man. Um, he's a competitor. He wants he works. 1:46:48.080 --> 1:46:50.240 You know, it looks like he competes out there. Um, 1:46:50.320 --> 1:46:53.240 he's gritty, he's gonna fight. He's not afraid to, you know, 1:46:53.320 --> 1:46:55.560 try to make things happen. But do I see a 1:46:55.600 --> 1:46:58.519 guy who's a franchise or a starting caliber quarterback in 1:46:58.520 --> 1:47:02.800 the NFL? I don't. All right, Let's come back in 1:47:02.840 --> 1:47:05.439 a moment. And by the way, the yes, the not 1:47:05.600 --> 1:47:10.200 so powerful draft order, the Jaguars are number two currently 1:47:10.320 --> 1:47:14.639 with the strength of schedule. The Jets are number one. 1:47:15.400 --> 1:47:16.960 I just wanted to get the graphic in for our 1:47:17.080 --> 1:47:20.880 video getting number one. By the way, Jets are not 1:47:20.960 --> 1:47:24.320 gonna do it. Patriots, don't think Belichick, you want me? 1:47:24.439 --> 1:47:26.800 Belichick says, Hey, let's start Stidham this week and see 1:47:26.800 --> 1:47:30.120 what we can do. What if? 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It's my ear now, that's right. 1:51:41.800 --> 1:51:45.960 I get to hear myself. Just keep talking, Okay, I 1:51:46.120 --> 1:51:51.519 like to hearing myself. Um no, I think lock kJ Hamler. Um, 1:51:51.640 --> 1:51:54.360 you know you get Courtland Sutton back, Judy Noah Fan. 1:51:54.560 --> 1:51:57.880 They haven't making a pretty good offense there in Denver. Yeah, 1:51:58.680 --> 1:52:03.240 I'm not sure you sold on. I like, like, I 1:52:03.320 --> 1:52:06.000 want a gun slinger. I think he's a gunslinger. I 1:52:06.160 --> 1:52:08.479 get that, and I haven't seen enough Beata. I'll trust you. 1:52:08.960 --> 1:52:10.640 I mean if walks the guy. Yeah, they got some 1:52:10.760 --> 1:52:14.040 talent and I think munch Checks did a good job 1:52:14.080 --> 1:52:16.439 of the offensive line. They're starting to play better. Um, 1:52:17.200 --> 1:52:20.680 you know, so we'll see. I think for sure. Now 1:52:20.880 --> 1:52:23.400 I shouldn't say for sure. If they finished the season 1:52:23.479 --> 1:52:26.439 the right way. I think Alway brings Vic Fangio back. 1:52:26.560 --> 1:52:27.920 It gives him another year to see if he can 1:52:28.000 --> 1:52:31.880 what he can do. Uh in a non COVID everyone 1:52:32.000 --> 1:52:34.280 you know, not with all the injuries get starts back 1:52:34.360 --> 1:52:37.519 if he but I think he has. They have five wins. Now, 1:52:38.080 --> 1:52:40.479 if he wins to the next three, think he's for 1:52:40.600 --> 1:52:42.920 sure back one of the next three. Six wins. I 1:52:42.960 --> 1:52:47.000 think it's I would agree with you. The Bears over 1:52:47.080 --> 1:52:51.439 the Texans thirty six to seven. What happened to Houston? Well, 1:52:51.560 --> 1:52:56.639 Trubisky and Montgomery and Allen Robinson happened to Houston, Texas. 1:52:57.520 --> 1:53:00.240 It's a bad defense, It's it's a bit, it's a 1:53:00.280 --> 1:53:03.599 bad team. The team's not good. And you know, people 1:53:03.680 --> 1:53:07.439 keep comparing jobs and stuff too. Okay, would you rather 1:53:07.479 --> 1:53:10.400 have Watson and not and have that mess that's around 1:53:10.479 --> 1:53:13.000 them and no draft picks? Or would you rather have 1:53:13.080 --> 1:53:16.160 the Jaguars situation with the number two overall pick. Look, 1:53:16.200 --> 1:53:18.920 the quarterback is great to have, but that team around 1:53:19.000 --> 1:53:22.080 him is terrible and they have issues that they're getting 1:53:22.120 --> 1:53:24.400 the ages there. J J. Watts starting to break down. 1:53:24.439 --> 1:53:29.040 Who rushes the passer? The bad team speaking, they're not 1:53:29.160 --> 1:53:33.160 very good. I didn't see blind like that might dropped 1:53:33.200 --> 1:53:34.840 him in this That might have dropped him in the 1:53:34.880 --> 1:53:39.679 NFC South power ranking. Wow, that's uh. But we didn't 1:53:39.720 --> 1:53:42.120 do him tonight. Remember somebody didn't want to do You 1:53:42.200 --> 1:53:45.080 can't drop him over this team. Mr Word stop it. 1:53:45.800 --> 1:53:49.400 Cowboys sospeaking a bad team's Cowboys over the Bengals thirty 1:53:49.479 --> 1:53:51.840 to seven yesterday we'll just go ahead and skip that 1:53:51.960 --> 1:53:57.160 game because it's Kansas City over Miami thirty seven. This 1:53:57.360 --> 1:54:00.799 was ten nothing Miami and the Kansas City storms ahead 1:54:00.840 --> 1:54:04.720 and they got close late. And you know what, Kansas City, 1:54:05.240 --> 1:54:07.880 that's the greatness of them. Mahomes wasn't that great. He 1:54:07.920 --> 1:54:10.280 threw three picks, he had a couple of tipped through, 1:54:10.320 --> 1:54:13.160 a bad interception, and they were down ten nothing. The 1:54:13.240 --> 1:54:14.800 next thing you know, you look up and it's thirty. 1:54:16.280 --> 1:54:18.720 I mean, they were just dominating and then to have 1:54:18.800 --> 1:54:22.479 made it interesting with some nice plays. But no, Kansas 1:54:22.479 --> 1:54:25.720 City is the best team in the league. Yep. Nothing 1:54:25.760 --> 1:54:29.400 to add there. Arizona over the Giants twenty six to seven. 1:54:30.000 --> 1:54:34.080 And let's see Tampa Bay over Minnesota twenty six to fourteen. 1:54:34.160 --> 1:54:36.440 Tom Brady a couple of touchdowns and Pete, as you 1:54:36.520 --> 1:54:39.920 said earlier, Leonard four net a healthy scratch yesterday, healthy 1:54:39.960 --> 1:54:44.400 scratch Leonard four Net. Yeah that Remember remember when everyone 1:54:44.520 --> 1:54:48.120 was saying the Jaguars are tanking because of getting Leonard 1:54:48.400 --> 1:54:51.760 rid of Leondard Fournette and keeping James Robinson as the starter. Um, 1:54:52.360 --> 1:54:57.200 what do you think now? It's not even close? James Robinson, 1:54:57.440 --> 1:55:02.120 James Robinson is a better just better at everything. He's 1:55:02.120 --> 1:55:04.760 a better football player. James Robinson be voted into the 1:55:04.800 --> 1:55:10.440 Pro Bowl. Yes, yeah, I agree. What is he? Where 1:55:10.520 --> 1:55:16.520 is he in? Rushing third in the NFL? I mean 1:55:16.680 --> 1:55:20.160 so he's second in the Yes, yes, yeah, he's got 1:55:20.240 --> 1:55:22.080 I mean he if he I mean, it depends how 1:55:22.120 --> 1:55:24.440 he finishes. He needs to have another good week because 1:55:24.440 --> 1:55:25.920 I think they vote after this week at the week 1:55:25.960 --> 1:55:29.760 fourteen typically, um, I mean, like one and two are 1:55:29.840 --> 1:55:32.720 clearly ahead of him, but by you know that Dalvin 1:55:32.760 --> 1:55:34.440 Cooks two and he's three on yards ahead of him, 1:55:34.440 --> 1:55:37.800 But after that he's he's got a pretty significant lead 1:55:37.840 --> 1:55:42.200 over four. He's a good player. Yeah, he could be 1:55:42.240 --> 1:55:46.280 in the Pro Bowl. Colts over the Raiders seven. The 1:55:46.320 --> 1:55:49.080 Colts nine and four keeping pace, but they're still back 1:55:49.120 --> 1:55:51.040 because of the division record and the Jags win on 1:55:51.240 --> 1:55:55.400 them and the Raiders fired Paul Gunther And I've known 1:55:55.440 --> 1:55:57.520 Paul for a long time. You tell me who's gonna 1:55:57.600 --> 1:56:00.640 make chicken salad out of that chicken dunk? Come on? 1:56:02.640 --> 1:56:05.600 How about how about this? If the Titans went out 1:56:06.400 --> 1:56:08.880 and the Colts went out. The reason the Colts don't 1:56:08.880 --> 1:56:11.800 win the division is because they lost in the Jaguars 1:56:11.920 --> 1:56:15.840 opening day. Yeah, and the Colts are a better team. 1:56:15.920 --> 1:56:18.920 I think they're a better completely because they have a defense. 1:56:18.960 --> 1:56:20.360 I don't think the Titans can go anywhere in the 1:56:20.360 --> 1:56:23.800 playoffs that defense is so bad. Have a chance because 1:56:23.840 --> 1:56:26.520 they can play really good defense. Yeah, I don't think 1:56:26.520 --> 1:56:28.600 there's any question about But by the way, Mike Mayock 1:56:28.680 --> 1:56:33.680 not doing you any favors, bess Elly, Pete, we stop, 1:56:33.840 --> 1:56:42.240 please a few more games here quickly. Seattle dominated the Jets, 1:56:42.320 --> 1:56:44.960 thanks a lot. In New York, the Packers win again 1:56:46.240 --> 1:56:51.240 over Detroit, Chargers over Atlanta. It's twenty to seventeen. Philly 1:56:51.400 --> 1:56:56.240 gets a win quick Yeah, Pete, I want to ask 1:56:56.240 --> 1:57:01.520 you the question, quickly, does do they one from Matt Ryan? 1:57:01.600 --> 1:57:03.800 I mean, he was three pictures and he was bad. 1:57:04.120 --> 1:57:07.240 He was bad. No, Julio, though, I don't care, and 1:57:07.360 --> 1:57:10.160 they move Do they move on from that? I don't 1:57:10.200 --> 1:57:15.200 think so. Philly over New Orleans one and Washington wins again. 1:57:15.640 --> 1:57:19.280 The football team starting to rally, Pete. Jack del Rio 1:57:19.400 --> 1:57:22.920 has that defense playing good football. You men have a 1:57:22.960 --> 1:57:26.920 lot of talent up front. By right, Buffalo they are 1:57:26.960 --> 1:57:29.960 they can get after the quarterback, and then Buffalo they 1:57:30.040 --> 1:57:32.320 can they got big players inside Tony. That goes back 1:57:32.320 --> 1:57:37.520 to your theory, you know, block attact, the quarterback, run 1:57:37.600 --> 1:57:40.520 the ball, affect the quarterback, sack them and get a quarterback, 1:57:40.560 --> 1:57:43.120 and you're gonna win football. But it's not sustainable without 1:57:43.200 --> 1:57:46.800 the franchise quarterback the quarterback. That's right. I have the 1:57:46.880 --> 1:57:49.480 quarterback Bills over the Steelers. They have a quarterback both teams. 1:57:49.520 --> 1:57:53.520 In fact, the final score some Steelers fans right now 1:57:53.640 --> 1:57:58.000 might debate Buffalo is better than Pittsburgh a lot better. 1:57:59.080 --> 1:58:01.320 Monday Night foot Oh, we get a sneak preview of 1:58:01.360 --> 1:58:04.080 the Jags Week fifteen opponent Lamar Jackson and the seven 1:58:04.120 --> 1:58:06.720 and five Baltimore Ravens are hovering at the a f 1:58:06.800 --> 1:58:09.880 C playoff cut line. They'll face the churning running game 1:58:09.920 --> 1:58:13.120 of the surprising nine and three Cleveland Browns. Could be 1:58:13.240 --> 1:58:15.720 the fastest game of the year. Two of the top 1:58:15.800 --> 1:58:20.000 three rushing offenses in football. Who you got tonight? You 1:58:20.040 --> 1:58:22.760 know I said that last week when the Browns played 1:58:22.800 --> 1:58:26.600 the Titans and it ended up being off explodeson. So 1:58:27.120 --> 1:58:28.520 I don't know how this will play out, but the 1:58:28.600 --> 1:58:30.560 last time the Ravens blew them out there, the better 1:58:30.640 --> 1:58:33.280 team look, Cleveland's up start. They're nice team, but I 1:58:33.320 --> 1:58:35.200 think the Ravens are getting guys back. They go in 1:58:35.280 --> 1:58:38.520 there and they handle business. You know. My concern is, 1:58:38.560 --> 1:58:40.680 could the Ravens be looking ahead to the big matchup 1:58:40.760 --> 1:58:44.040 next week and they get caught sleeps right, that's right, 1:58:44.920 --> 1:58:50.440 trap game. They're gonna rest guys next week the following 1:58:50.600 --> 1:58:54.840 week and still win, all right, they have. I think 1:58:54.840 --> 1:58:57.360 the Ravens are the better overall team, but I'll tell 1:58:57.400 --> 1:59:00.760 you they better trap it up because the Browns have 1:59:00.880 --> 1:59:03.800 a really good offensive line. Will is their left tackle, 1:59:04.040 --> 1:59:06.520 who was the right tackle in Alabama. Pete maybe the 1:59:06.560 --> 1:59:09.080 best rookie I've seen this year as far as offensive lineman. 1:59:09.320 --> 1:59:11.600 The kids are stud good in the run in the past. 1:59:11.720 --> 1:59:13.920 I love the offensive line for the Browns. I think 1:59:13.960 --> 1:59:15.960 they could run it and against the Ravens, and I 1:59:15.960 --> 1:59:18.000 think it's gonna be a close game. You know. You 1:59:18.040 --> 1:59:20.040 know that's why you don't pay Cam Robinson Right there, 1:59:21.240 --> 1:59:25.000 Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselli. We uh we had a show tonight. 1:59:25.200 --> 1:59:28.920 Thanks to our entire crew, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaber for 1:59:29.120 --> 1:59:32.560 Pete and Tony, I'm J P. Shadrick. Thank you, for listening, 1:59:32.600 --> 1:59:34.600 Thank you for watching a Jaguars Happy Hour on the 1:59:34.680 --> 1:59:36.000 Jaguars Digital Network.