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Speaker 1: second hour. We have one hour to break it all down.
Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up on the show today, Me and Pete,
Speaker 1: Pete and Me like the old days. I love it.
Speaker 1: Titans Jaguars review, Jake's lost thirty one to tend Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1: The second will start next week against the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that decision from head coach Doug Marrone.
Speaker 1: Tony was Sully at five o'clock. Your social media questions
Speaker 1: in the second hour, but not so powerful draft rankings
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Speaker 1: League and week number fourteen. Mr Prisco, good afternoon, what
Speaker 1: is up? Jtuh This might be the best hour of
Speaker 1: radio we've had in gosh since Besully was in Europe.
Speaker 1: I think probably then. Yeah, I mean this hearkens back
Speaker 1: to the days when I was across the street over
Speaker 1: here and used to call into your old radio show
Speaker 1: when you hosted. Remember, yeah, a JP, give us an
Speaker 1: update on the Suns and what they got going on.
Speaker 1: I can tell me, you can tell me how good
Speaker 1: the pregame meal is. I used to ask you always
Speaker 1: about the pregame meal. That's right, the late Great bet
Speaker 1: Road Chicken Dinners, which is no longer. That's no longer
Speaker 1: with you, Jackson, I know, I know, so yeah, so
Speaker 1: this will be fun tonight. I'm looking forward to it,
Speaker 1: and this is made. But you know what it's all
Speaker 1: he's doing. You know, he wouldn't say what he was doing.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's formulating his plan take over the Maybe he's
Speaker 1: doing that, or or he's on you know about the
Speaker 1: sixteenth hole at Sawgrass, maybe one or the other. Whatever way,
Speaker 1: we're you know what, JP, whatever he's doing, if it's
Speaker 1: that important, we're just gonna say he was on the
Speaker 1: sixteen to a right, because that's not a bad place
Speaker 1: to be. Actually, maybe he's got to figure it out
Speaker 1: and we don't, Pete. We're the ones doing the show.
Speaker 1: I don't know the teams won in twelve. Now they've
Speaker 1: dropped twelve in a row. Of course, lost to the Titans.
Speaker 1: And you know, it felt like this was the measuring
Speaker 1: stick game because the Titans are the team, the first
Speaker 1: place team in the ANFC South, the division leaders, They're
Speaker 1: the standard right now. Um, this team is so far
Speaker 1: away the Jaguars are from what the Titans are doing
Speaker 1: that they don't even make measuring six that long in
Speaker 1: my opinion. I mean, it was just a totally different
Speaker 1: looking football team yesterday. Yeah, look, the Jaguars aren't a
Speaker 1: very good team right now, and nobody can dispute that.
Speaker 1: Nobody will argue that. And they can't compete with good teams.
Speaker 1: It's probably not going to compete next week with the
Speaker 1: Ravens either, And so this is not about the rest
Speaker 1: of this year. It's about moving forward after the season
Speaker 1: and and finding the right fits and finding the right
Speaker 1: coach and finding the right general manager. And you know,
Speaker 1: look it makes sense to go explore all options and
Speaker 1: you know, filling that position or those positions. And you know,
Speaker 1: you saw there was a report today Albert Berre mentioned
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. I had heard that I mentioned that to
Speaker 1: you this morning before I even saw that, and that
Speaker 1: is one option out there. And I think the Jaguars
Speaker 1: are indeed interested in him, and we'll we'll talk to
Speaker 1: him down the road or have maybe they've even talked
Speaker 1: to him. So again, explore all options and and try
Speaker 1: and figure out who the best people to run that
Speaker 1: franchise is. You know, I was a little shocked yesterday
Speaker 1: when I heard the report that Marone was going to
Speaker 1: come back or could come act that was believe that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because wasn't it was and the way it was kind
Speaker 1: of I wentn't back and kind of looked at the
Speaker 1: wording a little later and it said, hey, some people
Speaker 1: around the league think that Maron has a chance to
Speaker 1: come back. It was kind of a loose report. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like, hey, sources say this is happening, and we
Speaker 1: all know he's staying through the end of the year.
Speaker 1: That's already been announced. Yeah, I and and I saw
Speaker 1: Jeane for Nette disputed it as well just now on Twitter,
Speaker 1: Saince some source told him that's not true. I don't
Speaker 1: believe it either. I just don't. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: clean house. I think they're getting rid of everybody. And
Speaker 1: this is no slight at Doug, but you know, Doug's
Speaker 1: hands were kind of tie beyond his back. There's not
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on that team. But changes have
Speaker 1: to come, and it needs to be a full scale
Speaker 1: changes across the board. It just can't be you know,
Speaker 1: one guy here and then maybe you keep the coach
Speaker 1: and you change the general It can't work that way.
Speaker 1: It has to be the general manager of the coach
Speaker 1: working together in sync. You want your guys, they want
Speaker 1: to work together. I just can't imagine Doug Moron staying
Speaker 1: in that position. Now. Have weird things happened in the NFL, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: we've seen him happen, but I can't see it happening
Speaker 1: in this case at all. We'll break this down a
Speaker 1: little bit more as we go tonight, Pete, and maybe
Speaker 1: throw some names out there if you if you have
Speaker 1: some others that could be options, that will get into that.
Speaker 1: But because we must, let's review yesterday's game. The Jaguars
Speaker 1: thirty one to ten uh and Mike Glennan made the
Speaker 1: start and so did Derrick Henry on the other side
Speaker 1: for Tennessee went over two hundred yards for the fourth
Speaker 1: time in his career, the second time against the Jaguars
Speaker 1: in his career two hundred fifteen yesterday, and they seemed
Speaker 1: relatively easy for the most part. They the defense had
Speaker 1: real issues. Let's start on the offensive side though, and
Speaker 1: there was a quarterback change in the third quarter. Mike
Speaker 1: Glennan started the game and went two and a half
Speaker 1: quarters with only eighty five passing yards, so Gardner Minshew
Speaker 1: was brought and off the bench. He did lead a
Speaker 1: touchdown drive. James Robinson had a big run on that
Speaker 1: drive as well. There were a couple of other times
Speaker 1: where they ended short in the red zone. And then
Speaker 1: after the game, Gardner Metshew obviously pretty fired up to
Speaker 1: be back on the field. Uh. Yeah, it's so great
Speaker 1: to be back in there. You know. It's something, um
Speaker 1: that I really missed. I missed, Uh, you know, comaraderie
Speaker 1: with the guys. I'm as being out there. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: as much as you're always a part of the team,
Speaker 1: it's just something different, you know, when you really are
Speaker 1: out there with the guys, and that was it's always special. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought we got in a rhythm. He
Speaker 1: was kind of up and down. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think we can finish drives better. Gardner Minshew after the
Speaker 1: game yesterday, Pete and now a fourth quarterback change for
Speaker 1: Doug Moron this year, they're going back to Gardner Minshew
Speaker 1: moving forward, at least this week in Baltimore. Would you
Speaker 1: what'd you think of all the quarterback play yesterday? It
Speaker 1: was terrible? You've I'm to expect in Jacksonville. Look, Mike
Speaker 1: Lennon was bad. Gardner Minshew wasn't much better when he
Speaker 1: went in there in garbage time, and that's essentially what
Speaker 1: it was. He did give him a little life on
Speaker 1: that one touchdown dry but let me come on that
Speaker 1: that nobody's playing in that situation. It was garbage time.
Speaker 1: They're not good at quarterback period. End of story. Jake
Speaker 1: Lwton not good, Mike Glennon not good, Gardner Minshew not good.
Speaker 1: So what do you do? You try a new guy
Speaker 1: this week? Um, you bring back Gardner Minshew and let
Speaker 1: him start against the Ravens. But look, doesn't matter, does
Speaker 1: it really matter to JP? None of these are any good.
Speaker 1: It's a bad it's a bad position on a bad
Speaker 1: football team, and it's a big part of the reason
Speaker 1: why they're a bad team, there's all these you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about all the crowd was channing for Minshew
Speaker 1: yesterday and all that stuff, and there's controversy who's gonna start.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a quarterback controversy when you're
Speaker 1: one and twelve and all three aren't playing, well, that
Speaker 1: just doesn't exist in my book. Well, let's put it
Speaker 1: this way. Which of those three guys is going to
Speaker 1: be on the roster next year? Are any of them?
Speaker 1: And maybe, I mean depends on the GM, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: who does he want? I mean, does he think Luton
Speaker 1: maybe has the bigger arm, and as a younger player
Speaker 1: and he's inexpensive, maybe you keep him around. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: I outlined it last year. If last week, if they
Speaker 1: draft number two, they draft Justin Fields, They're not going
Speaker 1: to have Gardner Minshew be the other quarterback in the room.
Speaker 1: It's just not gonna work. Gardner thinks he should be playing,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that he'd be a good mentor
Speaker 1: for Justin Fields. So take that out of the equation.
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon. That just depends on what they want in
Speaker 1: their backup quarterback. Luton has the big arm, but he
Speaker 1: didn't show very well when he played. So I'm not
Speaker 1: sure any of them are going to be in the room.
Speaker 1: And and the best guest you made it would probably
Speaker 1: be Luton. He would be the guests to be the
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. But you need a veteran I think if
Speaker 1: you've gotta if you have an older quarterback, you have
Speaker 1: to have a veteran behind. I mean a younger quarterback.
Speaker 1: You have to have a veteran behind. You need. You
Speaker 1: need a chat to port you know, a Chad Henny
Speaker 1: to your Blake Portles is what you need. Correct, That's
Speaker 1: exactly what you need. And so I don't think any
Speaker 1: of them are gonna be on the roster next year,
Speaker 1: or at least suiting up. You know, it depends on
Speaker 1: what the rosters look like in terms of practice squad
Speaker 1: and everything else. But I don't think they're gonna in
Speaker 1: the rules. What the rules are. I don't think any
Speaker 1: of them gonna be suiting up next year. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I think they're all gone. And you know, people channing
Speaker 1: for Minshew, why what does he bring? What is he
Speaker 1: better than those guys? No? Are they any even better
Speaker 1: than the other No? And so does he bring the
Speaker 1: excitement when he's moving around and leaving clean pockets with
Speaker 1: two hands on the ball. Did you know did you know?
Speaker 1: Do you notice that now? Not a lot of all
Speaker 1: the time. Man, it's it's all, that's all I see.
Speaker 1: It's it's frustrating. And I was sitting there watching the
Speaker 1: game in my studio with a couple of guys that
Speaker 1: were sitting there, and I'm like, this is maddening watching
Speaker 1: him leave clean pockets. He leaves them and there's no
Speaker 1: reason to leave them, and it's just it's just it's
Speaker 1: just amazing. And I think, what did he have a
Speaker 1: What was the run he had? It was about fifteen
Speaker 1: yard run up the middle of fourteen yard runners something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was one of those. And I keep finished with
Speaker 1: twenty something yards rushing on that run. Okay, but did
Speaker 1: you see the pockets step up and fire a shot
Speaker 1: to somebody? And I hadn't watched the tape. I bet
Speaker 1: there was somebody open and he didn't fire it to him. Now,
Speaker 1: now you know, that's the thing. How far down the
Speaker 1: field was this guy you think was open? Well, that's
Speaker 1: the question if and I gotta see it. I didn't
Speaker 1: see it on the tape. But I'll look at the
Speaker 1: tape and see and it's maddening to be because it
Speaker 1: happens all the time to a lot of these young quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: And and you heard the game last night. You know
Speaker 1: Josh Allen does run as much. Well, that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: It's better to move and throw than it is to
Speaker 1: move and run. Your quarterback. You're supposed to move to throw.
Speaker 1: And so I think from that standpoint, Minshew leaves far
Speaker 1: too many clean pockets. And if I was an offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: I would hate that. Uh. And I think his receivers
Speaker 1: pout when he's in the game. I don't think they
Speaker 1: he throws them open at all. And I think you
Speaker 1: can see that in their body language. And I we've
Speaker 1: got some tweets I think today about people wondering about
Speaker 1: DJ chark body language. And I didn't notice it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, did you notice it? Was it bad? I
Speaker 1: didn't notice it that much yesterday. I mean I noticed
Speaker 1: it earlier in the season a little bit, you could
Speaker 1: sense a little frustration. Yesterday, in particular, it didn't stand
Speaker 1: out to me. Maybe it showed and I just didn't
Speaker 1: see it. But on the TV copy at least I
Speaker 1: didn't see and you know, I'm gonna have to go
Speaker 1: back and watch it when I watched and see. But
Speaker 1: remember two, pet like he's had, he's had a tough season.
Speaker 1: Two he's been banged up a little bit Chark has
Speaker 1: and then all that combined with the frustration of the
Speaker 1: offense this year, that's just a tough year for Chark.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything bad going on with Chark.
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy you want around here. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's just he's frustrated and understandably so. It's much like
Speaker 1: the Allen Robinson you know, curse when Robinson to play
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles and who else do you play Blake? And
Speaker 1: then he had Nick Foles and he has Drabinsky and
Speaker 1: he's a good, really good receiver. Needn't get the play
Speaker 1: of the good quarterback. That's frustrating. Think about Shark. Look
Speaker 1: who he's played with, he played with what Bordles was?
Speaker 1: Did he have boardles? Yeah? Right? Yeah? And bowls this year.
Speaker 1: It's frustrating. It's frustrating. I understand it's frustration. I don't
Speaker 1: understand low thing. If that's the case. If people saw that,
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. But I understand the frustration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and obviously we haven't been able to talk to DJ.
Speaker 1: He has not been out there in the press area,
Speaker 1: in the in the virtual world, I guess after games.
Speaker 1: So we'd love to I'm sure at some point here
Speaker 1: from DJ over the next few weeks, to see how
Speaker 1: you like. Who do they make available after the game?
Speaker 1: I saw Minshew was available, but who else? Thence you?
Speaker 1: I saw Shoulbert on the screen. I saw James Robinson
Speaker 1: because he's surpassed a thousand yards. So it's a handful
Speaker 1: of guys, I mean, depending on how you. I just
Speaker 1: don't know how you could cover a team right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about, Yeah, it'd be so hard. And because
Speaker 1: I meant i'd go to the wide receivers and say, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think of the quarterbacks? And you have
Speaker 1: a story. They can't throw me the ball. They're all bad.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from I'd be curious, does anybody think Minsho
Speaker 1: is good? Does anybody? I mean, seriously, he's not. Apparently
Speaker 1: some folks in the stands did yesterday. Wow, I don't
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, let's hear from head coach Doug Marone
Speaker 1: today on a conference call with the media explaining why
Speaker 1: Gardner minshow next week in Baltimore. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean that comes into play, you know, and extending plays
Speaker 1: and being you know, being able to make plays on
Speaker 1: his feet and you know, um, I mean that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's what we're looking for. And you know, someone
Speaker 1: I can do it, and you know, um, you know,
Speaker 1: Mike's gonna sit back there and we haven't been you know,
Speaker 1: doing a great job and anything. I think that's why
Speaker 1: we are sitting, you know, with with our record the
Speaker 1: way it is. So there you go. Head coach Doug
Speaker 1: Marone today discussing some of the reasons why Gardner minshew
Speaker 1: last yesterday eighteen thirty one. He had thirty one attempts.
Speaker 1: They were down so big they had to throw it
Speaker 1: all over the yard yesterday and you know, going back
Speaker 1: to earlier in the year, that's not the formula for
Speaker 1: success for yeah, and it just it was n the
Speaker 1: even period. It was I mean, the numbers looked better
Speaker 1: than the game. Let's put it that way. Eighteen and
Speaker 1: thirty one for one seventy eight doesn't look awful, but
Speaker 1: he didn't look that good, right, right, So U they
Speaker 1: have it first appearance since week seven, before the bye week.
Speaker 1: We'll come back in a moment. We've got plenty of head. Pete,
Speaker 1: we have to talk about the Jaguars defense. It was
Speaker 1: a rough day at the office yesterday. You can still
Speaker 1: see Derrick Henry putting footprints on their on their helmets
Speaker 1: and their their jerseys running over him. It was bad.
Speaker 1: That was bad. Well, we'll see how bad when we
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Speaker 1: of us to love it Jags and one and twelve
Speaker 1: and a big reason why is the performance of Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry Yesterday two fifteen yards, a couple of touchdowns, his
Speaker 1: fourth career two hundred yard rushing game and second against
Speaker 1: the Jags in his career. And yesterday it was pretty
Speaker 1: easy for him. Pete and didn't he have a long
Speaker 1: run call back to he did? There were a couple
Speaker 1: I think in fact, so he might have flirted with
Speaker 1: the all time record had he had those runs in there,
Speaker 1: they might have left him in. Yeah, and they did
Speaker 1: take him out of the game, but they did allow
Speaker 1: him to go back in and get the two. What
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out was early in the game, why
Speaker 1: wasn't he in on the fourth and one? That was
Speaker 1: a weird one. That was a really mean Sometimes these
Speaker 1: coaches outthink themselves. I don't get it. But he looked
Speaker 1: The defense is bad. They were blocked, had a ton
Speaker 1: every time he got the ball, there was space and
Speaker 1: sometimes there was giant cavities in that defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: just whatever he wanted to do, he could do. And
Speaker 1: once he gets ahead of steam, forget about it. JP
Speaker 1: he's done. You can't you know, it's hard to tackle him.
Speaker 1: You gotta get him bouncing, you gotta get him early
Speaker 1: into play. And they did none of that. Every single
Speaker 1: time it looked like he had space to run and
Speaker 1: maneuver and and start running over people. So it's a
Speaker 1: bad defensive performance. There was the talk going into the
Speaker 1: game feat where they were discussing uh, the coaching staff
Speaker 1: and players. Defensive players were saying, well, we're adding time
Speaker 1: and practice this week to talk about stiff arms, and
Speaker 1: how do you defend against the stiff arm. You chop
Speaker 1: it down your eyes to the thighs and all that. Well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter if you're five yards away from
Speaker 1: the guy and can't get to him. No, well, once
Speaker 1: he gets ahead of steam, going forget about it, he's
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna run three. And here we're looking at
Speaker 1: some of these runs and look at that hole. Look
Speaker 1: at that hole, and then of course you know the
Speaker 1: safety takes a terrible angle and has no change ants.
Speaker 1: It's just I mean I could have run through that hole.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of their holes. And I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of those holes in that game
Speaker 1: where we could look at that there's nobody there. That's
Speaker 1: just bad gap football. Somebody, somebody just messed up their
Speaker 1: gap discipline right there because he ran right through him.
Speaker 1: That's not like the offensive lines mauling up front or anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just blocking the guy on the left
Speaker 1: and he runs to the right. That was it were
Speaker 1: run that play again because where the heck on the linebacker?
Speaker 1: I think that was. Was that the play where they
Speaker 1: shifted last moment before and then he ran through. I
Speaker 1: think it was there was like a late shift on
Speaker 1: defense the secondary guys around. We didn't see the safety
Speaker 1: what's his name? Winged? Well, Okay, Let's see Miles gets blocked.
Speaker 1: He runs into a gap and gets blocked by the
Speaker 1: right tackle. So he got somebody didn't hold that gap.
Speaker 1: If he's coming into that that gap that he blitz into,
Speaker 1: what you can see him he's running in there, somebody's
Speaker 1: got to have gap discipline. Oh it's the and will
Speaker 1: washed down. Okay, yeah, you can see it. Watch the
Speaker 1: watch the right Jason gets moved. Yeah, Jason gets washed down.
Speaker 1: That that's the problem right there. We figured it out,
Speaker 1: we digressed it. Yeah, he looked he actually was a
Speaker 1: little bit better yesterday. I thought he showed some life
Speaker 1: and and and look, you're looking for positiveive signs from Jason,
Speaker 1: but he did a little bit more yesterday. That was
Speaker 1: one good sign. But as a defense, they were terrible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bad day overall at the office yesterday. Another
Speaker 1: guy that played well. Obviously, Miles Jack had a bunch
Speaker 1: of tackles yesterday. But Joe Giles Harris continues to bring
Speaker 1: some statistics to the table. Here, five tackles in yesterday's game.
Speaker 1: He's a first year player out of Duke, and he
Speaker 1: had a sack in yesterday's game too, So I mean
Speaker 1: the guy is the last couple of weeks starting to
Speaker 1: put up some numbers. That's a good sign for him.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a relative unknown. We haven't really heard
Speaker 1: a lot of his name over the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 1: But hey, good for him. He's standing out a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where did he come from? He was an undrafted guy
Speaker 1: last year? I know, but I mean he hadn't been
Speaker 1: playing at all up until the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: right right, And they had so many injuries at that
Speaker 1: strong side linebacker that now Joe's getting a chance on defense.
Speaker 1: He started yesterday's game. In fact, they actually made some plays.
Speaker 1: Do you actually looked like he was a productive player?
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was good to see. You know,
Speaker 1: some of those young players. Look, they're they're okay, but
Speaker 1: the problem isn't playing too many snaps. They're on the
Speaker 1: field too much. They should be rotational guys, and you're
Speaker 1: asking too much of them and they're just not good enough.
Speaker 1: Right now. Um, you know, you look at the team,
Speaker 1: but that that group, read the starting lineup from yet
Speaker 1: and try and peg how many of those guys are
Speaker 1: gonna be starting next year? All right, here's the Grant
Speaker 1: starters from yesterday's lineup next year. On defense, here we
Speaker 1: go the starting lineup for your Jacksonville Jaguars in Week
Speaker 1: fourteen against the Tennessee Titan. Defensive lineman Dawn Smoot, nose
Speaker 1: tackle Daniel Aqually. No defensive tackle Doug Coston maybe probably
Speaker 1: not though defensive and Adam Gotsis no week side linebacker
Speaker 1: Miles jack Middle linebacker Joe Shobert. Maybe the linebacker Joe
Speaker 1: Giles Harris. No cornerback Sydney Jones the fourth maybe, but
Speaker 1: why did he only play thirty five snaps? That was there?
Speaker 1: I didn't see an injury. I didn't see him. I
Speaker 1: didn't see it yesterday either on on the injury thing.
Speaker 1: So maybe for him free safety Jared Wilson, maybe strong
Speaker 1: safety Josh Jones. Cornerback Tray hurt And by the way,
Speaker 1: did he get hurt because he didn't play? I think yeah,
Speaker 1: he got banged up yesterday. He let after halftime, he
Speaker 1: came back in and then early in the second half
Speaker 1: they ruled him. Answer for him is no, Okay, Herndon
Speaker 1: corner maybe there's not a lot of yeses. There's how
Speaker 1: many yes is? There's one yes? Miles? That's it? The
Speaker 1: only yes, says got three more years of his deal.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. But you don't play a guy just for
Speaker 1: the sake of playing him. I mean, what if else
Speaker 1: is gonna put out there? What if they change What
Speaker 1: if the new coaches staff comes out and they changed
Speaker 1: to a three four scheme? Can he handled playing in
Speaker 1: a three three four schemes? Not a big guy. Miles
Speaker 1: isn't a big guy either, but he's more of a
Speaker 1: thumper than shower. It is, so, I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things Miles, for sure, he's the only one
Speaker 1: now Sydney Jones. If he played like Sydney Jones earlier
Speaker 1: in the year, then I think he would be a candidate.
Speaker 1: But can you count on that. I mean, the inconsistency
Speaker 1: and the injuries have always been there, so it's there's
Speaker 1: uncertainty there as well. But of all the guys that
Speaker 1: were on the field starting that game, the only one
Speaker 1: that you can say definitely definitely that will starts Jack.
Speaker 1: That's just that's that's a lot of work to be
Speaker 1: done in the off season for the general manager. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're always talking about the quarterback and getting the
Speaker 1: offense going and everything, but you gotta stop some guys.
Speaker 1: How many guys that will start next year or now
Speaker 1: on injured reserve or on or out with injured? Oh,
Speaker 1: there's so many, right, I mean, maybe's talent one, there's
Speaker 1: another one, so there's two. Let me go to the
Speaker 1: actual injured reserve right now and I'll pull it up.
Speaker 1: Is three? Yeah, that's right, that's right. Um okay, let
Speaker 1: me go through the list here. Let me get to
Speaker 1: the list standby, here we go. Here comes the injured
Speaker 1: reserve Jacksonville Jaguars, Josh Allen, Chris Claybrooks, Ben Ellipson, Von
Speaker 1: Davon Hamilton's. Yes, there's another one, so that's two. That's
Speaker 1: but three, right, that's well, Captain Miles says. Plus two
Speaker 1: others Dick Hamilton's and Josh Allen, that's three that would
Speaker 1: definitely start next year. D J. Hayden No. C. J. Henderson, Yes,
Speaker 1: there's four. Leon Jacobs No, Lambeau doesn't count norwell. Um
Speaker 1: maybe Josh Oliver tied End. Haven't seen any of him?
Speaker 1: Who the hell knows? Do you know about him? He
Speaker 1: hasn't played a bunch of defensive guys as well as Russell.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen much of no starter. Daniel Thomas maybe, yeah,
Speaker 1: he flashed. But but there's four definites four. So if
Speaker 1: you're a new GM and you're coming in here, you
Speaker 1: and you have to find starters, quality starters. Now Coston
Speaker 1: might be one of those guys. He might be on
Speaker 1: like if he played the three four, he could be
Speaker 1: one of the big ends or one of the ends
Speaker 1: the down well you know tackle ends, slash guy. They
Speaker 1: bay Hamilton's costin and what and you need another body
Speaker 1: over there. And then you stand up Alan and Chase
Speaker 1: on and you play jack and whoever, show bird, who quarterman, whoever.
Speaker 1: Then you get away with it that way. But but
Speaker 1: again for definite guys on defense. Now we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the offense too, but we can flip it to
Speaker 1: the offense. And how many definite starters are on the offense. Well,
Speaker 1: let's come back and get into the offense. Pete learn
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Speaker 1: just like I said, I keep fighting. That's that's all
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, you don't get drafted, it sucks,
Speaker 1: but I mean once you um get on a team,
Speaker 1: it's still kind of the same villain, other than not
Speaker 1: having your name caught on TV. But yeah, I just
Speaker 1: keep going out there and grinding and wait for your opportunity.
Speaker 1: James Robinson, Jaguars running back after the game yesterday, sixty
Speaker 1: seven yards on the ground against the Titans and now
Speaker 1: over one thousand in his rookie season, rushing third in
Speaker 1: the league, fourth and scrimmage yards in the NFL. Welcome
Speaker 1: back Jaguars Happy Our j P. Shadrick with Pete Brisco
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli's on the vac nine somewhere should join us
Speaker 1: at five o'clock today and our conversation. Just yanked one
Speaker 1: into the tree. It's gonna hit a breakfast Forallard afternoon
Speaker 1: brunch ball. You know, have you ever played with him? No?
Speaker 1: I have not. I heard he hits it a mile
Speaker 1: though I haven't either. I'm sure he does. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got all that length, so he can they can
Speaker 1: rip it probably. You know, you can get in his head, though,
Speaker 1: come on, look at this show when every Monday, it's
Speaker 1: so easy to get in his head. You know, you
Speaker 1: can get into his hat. Poke him at, poke him
Speaker 1: a time or two, and you know he teas off
Speaker 1: with his I did that the you know, Brady Quinn.
Speaker 1: I worked with the old quarterback's playing golf with him
Speaker 1: one day and he hits it a mile and we
Speaker 1: were playing, and he played at a club and he's
Speaker 1: teeing off with his irons and I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? You're like a tennis player runs around his
Speaker 1: backhand hitting, you know, hit with your driver. Come on,
Speaker 1: what is this? He pulls out of his driver and
Speaker 1: proceeds to yagg about three of them into the woods.
Speaker 1: I got into his head and actually beat him that day.
Speaker 1: And he's a ten times better golfer than I am.
Speaker 1: That's sometimes it's what it takes to equal the playing field.
Speaker 1: You gotta get getting the mentals, as they say. Of course,
Speaker 1: of course it's a mental game, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty bad physically at it too. That's the
Speaker 1: other issue, Um, Jaguar's offense. We continue our conversation. We
Speaker 1: just talked about the defense. How many guys that started
Speaker 1: yesterday would be starters next season? We can play the
Speaker 1: same game on the offensive side, and of course they
Speaker 1: played two different quarterbacks yesterday. It won't be either one
Speaker 1: of those guys, um, And then we can go down
Speaker 1: the list. You just want to go down the list here,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's start, by the way, One quick thing
Speaker 1: about James Robinson. The kids a phenomenal running back. Phenomenal.
Speaker 1: He reminds me again, I say it all the time.
Speaker 1: He does run like Emmett Smith. He doesn't have great speed,
Speaker 1: but he knows how to make people miss. He knows
Speaker 1: how to, you know, give a little bit of a
Speaker 1: small target and turn his body. I just every time
Speaker 1: he runs and there's a flag, I see the frustration
Speaker 1: all over his face. Yeah, how many times has that
Speaker 1: happened to him? This year where he's had a nice
Speaker 1: run or a touchdown and had it called back for
Speaker 1: a flag numerous times, so many times, and obviously yesterday
Speaker 1: he's a building block and a great player to have
Speaker 1: on that team. The guy yesterday go again had twelve
Speaker 1: negative rushes all year. He had too early in the game.
Speaker 1: You could tell that the Titans were not going to
Speaker 1: let him get rolling early in that game yesterday, and
Speaker 1: they did a pretty good job of keeping him and
Speaker 1: check a lot of that day. He had forty seven
Speaker 1: yards of his day in the fourth quarter and in
Speaker 1: that one run his longest run of the year. But early, um,
Speaker 1: they knocked him down in the backfield a couple of times.
Speaker 1: All right, So obviously that's one guy that would start
Speaker 1: next year. By the way, Leonard for Nette was a
Speaker 1: healthy scratch yesterday. What's that about? Um, you can only imagine.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They didn't really say. I didn't hear
Speaker 1: anything about that, but I mean, you go from a
Speaker 1: guy who's been playing to healthy scratch. Something's up right? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it didn't hurt him. They won beat the Vikings. No,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't played very well either. He's you know,
Speaker 1: he isn't very good. That's an issue. Yes, that is
Speaker 1: an issue. So produces. The Jaguars front office has taken
Speaker 1: over the years, and some of it rightfully. So they
Speaker 1: got that one right. That was the right call, that
Speaker 1: was the right drafting him. They got that one wrong.
Speaker 1: But to get him out of here, absolutely, and and
Speaker 1: it took this training camp to do it. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what they saw it. They Doug Moron said it. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're no no numbers, no names on the jerseys. That's
Speaker 1: as cliche as it gets, but that's what it was.
Speaker 1: It was the performance during training camp for James Robinson
Speaker 1: that said, you know what, we can get rid of
Speaker 1: our first round, top five draft pick running Bank. That's
Speaker 1: pretty bold. Well, they could have got rid of him
Speaker 1: last year, but that's a whole another story. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's go James Robinson's one, obviously one. Let me
Speaker 1: go through the starting line up yesterday. Peete, all right, Um,
Speaker 1: there's one. We'll start with the skill guys, then wide
Speaker 1: receivers d J. Chark, yes, Leviscus Chernault. Yes. They started
Speaker 1: with two tight ends yesterday. By the way, on end,
Speaker 1: so put the third receiver in there. So Cole no
Speaker 1: I mean he'll be a backup. He won't be a
Speaker 1: starter effort tight end. No, that face painful. Pete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they'll find a tight end in the drafts
Speaker 1: Florida quarterback obviously, No, we've gone through that. How many
Speaker 1: we have so far? We have recounting Robinson, shark and
Speaker 1: all right, so that's three. Let's go to the offensive line.
Speaker 1: This is an interesting cam Robinson left tackle. I'm gonna say, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be there. I'm leaning with you,
Speaker 1: and you know if you get all argue when we
Speaker 1: get when he gets in there, because he always takes
Speaker 1: up for the left tackle. I swear to god, JP,
Speaker 1: I could put a helmet on you and stick you
Speaker 1: at left tackle and he'd defend you. And I'm a
Speaker 1: spinning top over there. There's no way I'm blocking it.
Speaker 1: But he defended Luke jokel. That's been adopted in me
Speaker 1: Ben Bartch left guard. Yes, I think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a starter next year. They've been talking him up the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I think he's I think and
Speaker 1: I thought he did okay yesterday. I thought he was better.
Speaker 1: And you know, but silly picks that kid apart for
Speaker 1: some reason, and I think he's been better, and I
Speaker 1: think he will start at left guard because I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna let Norwell go. Even you know you don't
Speaker 1: have to let Norwell go. But if you have a
Speaker 1: guy who can go in there and play, and isn't
Speaker 1: the drop off isn't that much? Why not play him?
Speaker 1: And don't you think that that that makes sense? Sure?
Speaker 1: Absolutely right, You save some cash, get the guy in there.
Speaker 1: You still are effective? And is that the same argument
Speaker 1: at center? Tyler Shatley started yesterday? And Shatley wasn't awful either.
Speaker 1: I didn't just from the TV tape and I haven't
Speaker 1: watched the All twenty two tape, but he didn't look
Speaker 1: awful either. I don't. I mean, look, Linda is a
Speaker 1: better player than Shatley, but it's not that much different.
Speaker 1: You can't get rid of all of them. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna. I mean, personally, if it was my team,
Speaker 1: I might consider getting rid of all of them, because
Speaker 1: I don't why why just for the Antnioways goes, Oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta have lineman in front of that young quarterback?
Speaker 1: What if they're not good? Yeah, get some better lineman, right,
Speaker 1: if there's somebody it relates to dam Robinson. I look,
Speaker 1: you could get by with Norwell and and and and
Speaker 1: Linda coming back because they're not they're not. They've played okay,
Speaker 1: they've been solid. Cam Robinson hasn't played to a new
Speaker 1: new contract that will pay him eighteen million a year. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I mean, it's a contract. Do you
Speaker 1: expect to play to be at its best this year?
Speaker 1: And if this is the best, it's not like the
Speaker 1: contract year where he focused on everything and got himself
Speaker 1: in the tip shop tip top shape and he was
Speaker 1: ready to go, and this is the best, then you're
Speaker 1: not paying that, that's right. A J. Cannit right guard.
Speaker 1: I think he comes back and starts. He's actually played
Speaker 1: pretty well this year. A J. And Juan Taylor right tackle.
Speaker 1: I think he's back. Yeah, he's coming back, but he
Speaker 1: needs to pick it up. You know. I usually don't
Speaker 1: criticize the coaching staff for guys, but that line hasn't
Speaker 1: gotten that much better he has. He's regressed and that's
Speaker 1: a concern. When you have young players who regressed, that's
Speaker 1: a major concern. So there you have it. That's the
Speaker 1: starting lineup from yesterday. And there's a handful of guys
Speaker 1: on I ur enter norm Well could be back on
Speaker 1: the practice field this week, so we might how many
Speaker 1: definite do we have? We had Robinson, Chark and Chal
Speaker 1: It's not a definite starter either, So Robinson Chark I
Speaker 1: think he is, though, Pete, I mean, yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 1: targeted him, what do they target him? A bunch of times?
Speaker 1: Bunch yesterday? Yeah, he was all over the place. I
Speaker 1: think you lined up in the backfield a couple of
Speaker 1: times as well. Yeah, he'll probably be charch h eleven
Speaker 1: target So charch Chenal, Robinson, Taylor, it's four, it's four
Speaker 1: and or Linder and Norwell, I think. Okay, so four
Speaker 1: or five, right, that's it. That's a lot of work
Speaker 1: to be done too. It's a lot of guys. How
Speaker 1: many draft picks they have, next ton of draft picks
Speaker 1: and you have a ton of money, right, but those
Speaker 1: guys are going to come in right away, I mean
Speaker 1: the draft picks. It takes time for rookies, even first
Speaker 1: round picks to get right sometimes. Yeah, but okay, to
Speaker 1: look around the league that Beckton is playing pretty well,
Speaker 1: really well, but there's a high picks to Beckton for
Speaker 1: the Jets. Andrew Thomas got better than got worse yesterday.
Speaker 1: Um Wills is playing pretty good for the Browns. I
Speaker 1: mean you can find you can find left tackle and
Speaker 1: and put them in there and play him. I mean
Speaker 1: the jack Ward. How much cap room will they have.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at it, just quickly, looking at the
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty one caps, because Bucky told us
Speaker 1: on Wednesday he feels like million. Now yeah, m hmm.
Speaker 1: That's healthy. That's still healthy. He said that tackles pretty
Speaker 1: deep this year in the draft. There's some tackles. There
Speaker 1: are some tackles. Yes, seventy seven million dollars in cap
Speaker 1: space though, and if you didn't bring Norwell and linderback,
Speaker 1: you create more. Not I don't know how much I
Speaker 1: got to do the calculating, but you create some more.
Speaker 1: So they have money to spend. And what do we say,
Speaker 1: what do they got two first round picks? What they
Speaker 1: have seven in the first four? Isn't that right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot early this this coming yere Um. I
Speaker 1: mean the ramp didn't do him a favor last week.
Speaker 1: But no, they didn't. I mean it's just that they're
Speaker 1: loaded for the draft and they're loaded for spending money.
Speaker 1: This is not they got the second overall, they got
Speaker 1: twenty six or in that area, they'll have thirty you know,
Speaker 1: thirty four and sixty six. Wow, So that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of capital. Yeah, yeah, it is. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you finlay some of that and move
Speaker 1: up if you? I mean, depending on what the new
Speaker 1: gms wanted to do or move around, you can move
Speaker 1: up to one and go get one. I think that's happening.
Speaker 1: Would you give would you give up the second first
Speaker 1: round pick to go up a spot? I mean, what
Speaker 1: you've done in free agency at that point I would
Speaker 1: get I don't care. I'm giving it up. I'll give you.
Speaker 1: I'll sit there and I like Fields, but I love Lawrence.
Speaker 1: So if you go, I'll give up you. I'll give
Speaker 1: up A one and a two next year to go
Speaker 1: up a spot. You're generous, very generous. I want that quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think that that changes the whole dynamic of a franchise.
Speaker 1: All right, let's come back. We'll get into the reports.
Speaker 1: Je real quick. I pet you to the majority of
Speaker 1: fans out there would give up A one and the
Speaker 1: two to go probably they would? Would you? I think
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Speaker 1: out there, and you know, he had some drops. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, just you know, it's just tough. I think
Speaker 1: it's it's not on one person. I mean I think
Speaker 1: everyone can see that there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: you know, we've we've got to keep working on and
Speaker 1: keep trying to approve upon. So UM, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think it's for the one position right now,
Speaker 1: Um that we can you know point to. Um. I
Speaker 1: think we just got to try to see, you know,
Speaker 1: whoever it is, whoever gives us the best chance to
Speaker 1: you know, try to win a football. Head coach Doug
Speaker 1: Moron after the game yesterday and the loss to the Titans.
Speaker 1: Thirty one ten Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday,
Speaker 1: presented by Jet Home Loans, J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco.
Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli is wrapping up of golf round. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: find out about five o'clock where he has been for
Speaker 1: the last hour. What do you think you over under?
Speaker 1: What tiny accident shows up there? Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Will he be on time at five o'clock at the
Speaker 1: top of the hour or nine? Will he be here
Speaker 1: by five o'clock? I say, I say yes, just for purposes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll go. Yes, I'm taking the I'm taking
Speaker 1: the over. I'll go under that, right, what's the what's
Speaker 1: the bet? Next time I see a drink? How about that? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'll thanks for the drink. I appreciate it. You
Speaker 1: know something I don't already know. I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, thank you, thank you for the drink. Early, Um,
Speaker 1: let's get into a little bit of the changes that
Speaker 1: are obviously coming up. The GM has gone, and obviously
Speaker 1: the question is what will this What will the order
Speaker 1: of operations, the flow chart look like? Only shot con
Speaker 1: really would know what what he wants it to be.
Speaker 1: He's had a few different ways to go about it
Speaker 1: as the owner here, um obviously, the the GM, the
Speaker 1: head coach, who reports to who? And when? Is a
Speaker 1: guy like Mark Lamping going to be a little more
Speaker 1: involved because he really hasn't been over the last a
Speaker 1: little while at least. Well, I don't think Mark will
Speaker 1: be involved in the football side of thing, right, will
Speaker 1: be involved in the hiring process. I would imagine he
Speaker 1: would have something input into it. Yeah. Sure. So at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, is it coach reporting to GM,
Speaker 1: record reporting to the owner? Is there like there was
Speaker 1: in the last year or so, the GM and head
Speaker 1: coach equally reporting to the owner. That seemed like a
Speaker 1: lot of moving parts there. Or is it a vice
Speaker 1: president of football operations hiring a general manager and they
Speaker 1: hire a coach and the coach reports to both and
Speaker 1: they both in the one reports to the VP of
Speaker 1: Football Operations and the football operations VP of Football Operations
Speaker 1: reports to John con That's the way it could work.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at at the forty Niners,
Speaker 1: John Lynch, Adam Peters, Kyle Shanahan, and Lynch reports to
Speaker 1: the ownership the Yorks. So I think that could work. Um,
Speaker 1: if you have the right people in place. It could
Speaker 1: work if you have a general manager and a coach
Speaker 1: who a general manager came up through the ranks. That's
Speaker 1: the difference. Like, let's let's just throw it out there.
Speaker 1: Let's just say Boselli was the VP of Player of
Speaker 1: Football operations have to hire. He'd have to be at
Speaker 1: the top. He'd have to hire a good general general
Speaker 1: manager or whatever time do you want to give him,
Speaker 1: Who's come up through the scouting ranks, which Tony didn't do,
Speaker 1: who knows the scouting circles, who knows the good scouts,
Speaker 1: who knows how to network, who knows how to get
Speaker 1: the information? And then they would hire the code And
Speaker 1: usually you would hire a guy on your radar that
Speaker 1: you know. Now, does mis selling know these guys like
Speaker 1: some of the people in the league. Probably not. That
Speaker 1: might not be a bad thing, because here's why. Sometimes
Speaker 1: we get in the networking and I'll hire your cousin,
Speaker 1: if you hire my brother, if you hire my brother
Speaker 1: in law down the road, and you see it all
Speaker 1: the time. So it might not be a bad thing
Speaker 1: to have a guy like that in that position, because
Speaker 1: then he's gonna find the really good people and not
Speaker 1: be influenced by others to hire their friends and their buddies,
Speaker 1: which sometimes that could be a problem. So it gives
Speaker 1: them an open campus. If Tony was in that role,
Speaker 1: now let's just say it was. They hired Um Ryan
Speaker 1: colten Um from the Titans, and he hired Arthur Smith.
Speaker 1: Then I think Smith reports the Calton who reports too
Speaker 1: the con What about all this urban Meyer talk today?
Speaker 1: So he would want carte blonde, right, do you? That's
Speaker 1: another option to write gives the urban Meyer would want.
Speaker 1: You know, he's sniffing around jobs. He sniffed around jobs
Speaker 1: in the past. Remember he had the health issues that
Speaker 1: were concerned at Florida, and does he want to get
Speaker 1: back into it. I don't think. I don't think that
Speaker 1: would be a great higher I'll just put that out there.
Speaker 1: I just don't why. I don't think, just I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I used to have when he came
Speaker 1: to Florida. I remember I did a show with Franzie
Speaker 1: back in the day, and I remember telling Franzi, go,
Speaker 1: you are going to love urban Meyer because I followed
Speaker 1: his career and I watched him at Utah and Frank
Speaker 1: wasn't aware of him, and he wasn't real on who
Speaker 1: he was. And I remember telling Frank, I, go, you're
Speaker 1: gonna love Urban Meyer. And true to his word, they did.
Speaker 1: The whole Nate Gator Nation loved Urban because he brought
Speaker 1: winner there. Now, he had some players of questionable character
Speaker 1: when he was at the University of Florida. That's a
Speaker 1: way to say it. But you know what if they
Speaker 1: did that at Arizona State and want a couple of titles,
Speaker 1: I trade it in the nest. So let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1: So anyways, but you know, so if you had Urban Meyer,
Speaker 1: then you'd bring in a guy that would kind of
Speaker 1: answer to him. For example, think links to Belichick and
Speaker 1: Belichick that you know, you know, Shod and Tony Kahn
Speaker 1: respect Bill Belichick. Tony Khan loves Bill Belichick. Look, I
Speaker 1: love Tony con I think Tony Khan is a passionate,
Speaker 1: die hard football guy and he loves it and lives it.
Speaker 1: But he loves Bill Belichick and rightfully so. Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: is the greatest coach in the history of the league.
Speaker 1: So why not lean on that if you have it
Speaker 1: as a resource. But Belichick might recommend irban Meyer. And
Speaker 1: if you recommend irban Meyer, he might recommend one of
Speaker 1: his former lieutenants. Maybe it's Nick Kissario, if you can
Speaker 1: get him out of New England. Maybe it's Scott Pioli,
Speaker 1: who works with me. Now, I mean there are guys
Speaker 1: out there, and so think about that. I mean they
Speaker 1: basically Urban Meyer has been a coach, is coming out
Speaker 1: of the TV booth. Scott Pioli has been a general
Speaker 1: magic he'll be coming out of the TV booth. So
Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of scenarios to play
Speaker 1: it out. There are a lot of good people out there,
Speaker 1: but you've got to find the right people. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I'm gonna say this again, Vasselli's not here.
Speaker 1: I sincerely believe he could do the job as VP
Speaker 1: of of football operations. I don't think he could be
Speaker 1: just the general manager because he didn't come up through
Speaker 1: the ranks, but as big picture VP of football operations.
Speaker 1: It's just football. I say it over and over again.
Speaker 1: It's just football. Marty her is the general matter of
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. He was a sportswriter at one point.
Speaker 1: It's just well, let's say a lot. Then let's come
Speaker 1: back in a moment and we'll get the answer. Is
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Speaker 1: It's not even close. We shouldn't have him screaming and
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Yes, what we're gonna do is I spoke
Speaker 1: to the quarterback today, you know, when I played them,
Speaker 1: I mean all three of them, you know, during the
Speaker 1: course of this year having you know, I think having
Speaker 1: done the way they want them to go, neither of I,
Speaker 1: neither of anyone. And there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure to get everyone else around us playing well.
Speaker 1: And I think you know, um, you know that's it's
Speaker 1: going to be important for you know, the pieces around
Speaker 1: them to play extremely well for them to have success. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, Gardener is gonna go ahead and get to
Speaker 1: start this week. And I told you know, Mike to
Speaker 1: be ready and Jake to keep coming along because you know,
Speaker 1: the pressure on pressure on all of us to go
Speaker 1: in there and and and win football games. Head coach
Speaker 1: Doug Broone today discussing the quarterback position and welcome back
Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Hour j P Shadrick, Pete Price, Go, Tony
Speaker 1: Basselli coming up the aftermath of a loss to the
Speaker 1: Titans yesterday one ten, the final score the Jags and
Speaker 1: now dropped twelve consecutive games, extending the single season franchise
Speaker 1: worst losing skid, and the quarterback change. Minshoe will get
Speaker 1: the start this week against the Baltimore Ravens in week
Speaker 1: number fifteen, and maybe not beyond that the will see
Speaker 1: depending on the performance. The Jaguars lead the league and
Speaker 1: player count the number of players who have played on
Speaker 1: the field this year, seventy nine different players have played
Speaker 1: a lot of turnover and Pete and I were discussing
Speaker 1: earlier you know how many guys that started yesterday would
Speaker 1: be starters next year. And now it's onto Baltimore where
Speaker 1: guess what klais Campbell and Unique and Gakua will be
Speaker 1: fired up and ready to play the Jags. And guess what, Pete,
Speaker 1: you owe me a drink Tony bosellis on time. You
Speaker 1: know what I think? I think Basselli was listening and
Speaker 1: he raced to get his office so he would make
Speaker 1: me a loser that you wouldn't make it by five o'clock.
Speaker 1: A break? Well, where were you? What? What? What hold
Speaker 1: you finish up on before you got out of there?
Speaker 1: It was not for months? You were you? You played well?
Speaker 1: I hope was the old saw Grass? And was at
Speaker 1: the stadium? Was it the valley? Where were you? We
Speaker 1: already we had to yanke in a couple into the
Speaker 1: woods by the way. People called in and sent me
Speaker 1: a couple of direct messages. They said that it was
Speaker 1: the best hour of this show. They had in like
Speaker 1: messages as I was in this other event, saying where
Speaker 1: are you? It's a train wreck. They can't even carry
Speaker 1: the show. You were getting messages. Don't you know you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to have your your phone on on the
Speaker 1: golf course. I'm surprised that's allowed it saw Grass, sir,
Speaker 1: this nuts shouldn't be no phones allowed. We've been we've
Speaker 1: been evaluating the mess that is. Oh I was thinking
Speaker 1: about I was thinking about the you know kind of
Speaker 1: the show today and and what what what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Because it isn't it doesn't. It feel like
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of the same story over and
Speaker 1: over again. And the only difference this week is instead
Speaker 1: of being close and like, okay they had a chance,
Speaker 1: they never had. I mean from the middle of the
Speaker 1: second quarter on, it was over and as sooner you
Speaker 1: can feel it on that drive where Derreck Camber you
Speaker 1: got them about five times for seventy five yards right there,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, this could get ugly, and you
Speaker 1: almost get the feeling you didn't get more ugly because
Speaker 1: Pete they didn't want it to because they well it
Speaker 1: was thirty one three. They're like, hey, let's just get
Speaker 1: out of here, run the clock so we can go
Speaker 1: home without any injuries. That's and they took him out
Speaker 1: of the game, but then put it back again to
Speaker 1: get the two under Well. And here's another crazy thing.
Speaker 1: I bet you had fifty yards runs called back because
Speaker 1: of that's what we were saying earlier. But you know what,
Speaker 1: do you get one call back and then he just
Speaker 1: give it back to him and you go rip up another.
Speaker 1: So I mean, here's here's the deal, and we know this, Um,
Speaker 1: they lost twelve straight I'm sure you guys covered that
Speaker 1: franchise record. Uh, all the questions about who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: It's important for the guys in the locker room, important
Speaker 1: for the coaching staff because they want to try to
Speaker 1: win a game. But outside this, Pete, you've been saying
Speaker 1: for a while, you got me on board earlier than
Speaker 1: any other year it's ever happened on this show. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter for the long run because I'm not
Speaker 1: sure in the backup quarterbacks on the roster right now. Uh.
Speaker 1: We we said that earlier. I said he's not and
Speaker 1: and so now you're looking at and the question is
Speaker 1: how many guys you have that are viable NFL starters
Speaker 1: on this team and what can you build with the
Speaker 1: next year. And it's gonna be there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: new gm um. We're not gonna fired up. We're on
Speaker 1: this not our job, but most likely it sounds like
Speaker 1: to probably be a changed there as well. If we
Speaker 1: when you lose this many games, I mean, Doug wear
Speaker 1: of it. None of us like it. We all um
Speaker 1: want the best for the guys on that are coaches
Speaker 1: of this team because we have relationships with them. But
Speaker 1: at some point it kind of becomes is what it
Speaker 1: is story and you know they're gonna evaluate this thing,
Speaker 1: and now you're looking to next year, and unfortunately it's
Speaker 1: another year where you have the fan base way too
Speaker 1: early in the season saying, um, the most exciting thing
Speaker 1: is is who are we gonna draft? And who were
Speaker 1: gonna get free agency? And the thing that you add
Speaker 1: to the story this year, who's gonna be making the decisions?
Speaker 1: So hopefully that changes here soon. You want to give
Speaker 1: a campaign speech again, No, and I didn't have a
Speaker 1: campaign last last week. Excuse me, I have no campaigns
Speaker 1: uh speech right now? I think the only speech I
Speaker 1: have is and Pete and JP. I think you can agree.
Speaker 1: This franchise has to get to the point where the
Speaker 1: most interesting stuff of the year is on Sundays during
Speaker 1: the fall and winter. That's what it needs into. It
Speaker 1: can't be the most interesting time of the year is
Speaker 1: in the off season when you're going through free agency
Speaker 1: and draft and that kind of not stuff that has
Speaker 1: to be secondary. The good teams. That secondary the good
Speaker 1: teams Sundays the most exciting thing, and that's what everyone
Speaker 1: looks forward to in the market. It's the it's the
Speaker 1: worst team in franchise history. And it's not close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not close. And we Tony, we went through the
Speaker 1: whole starters from yesterday. Let's see if you agree with us.
Speaker 1: How many guys who started yesterday will be starters next year?
Speaker 1: Definite starters next year we'll start on defense. On defense first,
Speaker 1: we'll go to defense. Um, definitely starters next year on defense.
Speaker 1: One to name them as you go. Miles Jack Joe
Speaker 1: Schobert will both be starters next year. It's not a
Speaker 1: defen he's not sold. There's a lot of money to start.
Speaker 1: He's a starter that year. You can't replace everything he's like,
Speaker 1: he's a good player. I'm not saying he's great on
Speaker 1: a team that is losing twelve straight on the pathway
Speaker 1: to lose. What if they what if they switch to it?
Speaker 1: What if they switched to a defense that was a
Speaker 1: three four and he had to play a different style.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, if you can't replace all right,
Speaker 1: I said, I said almost on him. Okay, Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: count him so too. Okay, that's too that we're in
Speaker 1: the game yesterday. You're saying, yes, that started starters yesterday.
Speaker 1: There's two for sure. Is Cindey Jones starter next year.
Speaker 1: If you're saying for sure, I think he will be.
Speaker 1: Is it for sure? So you you're you have Scholbered
Speaker 1: Is it for sure? Yeah? Okay, So there's next closest
Speaker 1: to me is Jared Wilson. So you got you got
Speaker 1: two definite though two different too definite, two maybes? Okay?
Speaker 1: Offense um in the game yesterday, I'm gonna say chart,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, James Robinson do we'd same as us?
Speaker 1: Same as us? And then I'm gonna say, uh, what
Speaker 1: are you gonna say to the five lineman yesterday? We'll
Speaker 1: be back? I like a j campill be a starter?
Speaker 1: And that's four? What about chinal all right? If you're
Speaker 1: the three wide receiver set? Okay? So yeah, so basically
Speaker 1: it's a starter because you're usually in three wide receivers.
Speaker 1: So okay, so there's there's five and so you're not
Speaker 1: counting Cam Robinson. I noticed. I can't. I can't say
Speaker 1: it for sure started next year because I don't know
Speaker 1: what the financial situation is going to be based on
Speaker 1: the consistency in the second half of the season. If
Speaker 1: he wants seventeen eighteen ninety million dollars which left home.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can pay him that much money.
Speaker 1: So is bart starter at left guard next year? I
Speaker 1: would not know, I would bring would bring the world back.
Speaker 1: I thought he played better yesterday, though Tony. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch the tape, but on the TV it looked like
Speaker 1: you guys keep saying that you don't think he played
Speaker 1: better yesterday, and I have did you watch the tape?
Speaker 1: Was he bad? No? I seem was bad? It was
Speaker 1: he better? Sure going in the right direction? Sure? Am
Speaker 1: I ready to say he's a starter next year? That's
Speaker 1: we talked about the first how we saw this coming
Speaker 1: a mile away. You're not Anthony ccerio in him, are you? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. The first practice I walked up the field,
Speaker 1: I was like, right, well tell that story for him
Speaker 1: for those sud don't know quickly and God the rest
Speaker 1: of soul, because he passed away. And he's a great kid,
Speaker 1: a great guy. And I mean he was an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: And we drafted a third fourth round peat third round
Speaker 1: get out of Colorado State. I mean, good dude, I
Speaker 1: mean I really liked them. And he came in and
Speaker 1: where maybe it was the first second practice practice. Remember
Speaker 1: I watched him getting this dance and we started doing
Speaker 1: individual drills and this is no paths and we're going
Speaker 1: through stuff, and I just knew right away he he
Speaker 1: couldn't play at this level. Why he just wasn't athletic enough.
Speaker 1: He didn't have the feet and his hips and they're
Speaker 1: just something you can't teach, you you just tell. And
Speaker 1: I walked out the field and Priscoe. Actually the first
Speaker 1: person who grabbed me was Rick Reaper. She was a
Speaker 1: world college guy, and he was, what do you think?
Speaker 1: And I looked at him and said, Rick, he can't play.
Speaker 1: There's no chance to you play. And then I saw
Speaker 1: Pete later he was what do you think of the kid?
Speaker 1: And I said, he can't play. I mean, I'll help.
Speaker 1: The first practice, I just knew. I can see, you
Speaker 1: can see it, and I and I tried to help
Speaker 1: him and liked them and wanted him to succeed. And
Speaker 1: did he get better? Yeah, But was he ever gonna
Speaker 1: be a starting caliber offensive lineman in this league. No,
Speaker 1: he just didn't have the ability, athletic ability, couldn't bend right,
Speaker 1: and things just and nothing he gets them. He's a
Speaker 1: good kid. God bless him. He got paid. Unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 1: I have had some health issues, so but you don't
Speaker 1: see that and bark. Okay, and here's the kicker to
Speaker 1: the s Sario story is the scouts had like a
Speaker 1: sixth round grade on him and Tom had a second
Speaker 1: round grade on then they drafted him in the third round.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. So I mean, but if you're
Speaker 1: asking me, I mean, I think there's um so four
Speaker 1: on offense, then two linemen Chart Robinson and five of five.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of work to be done. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: then you have to go to I mean, here's a
Speaker 1: better question. So you um play the Tennessee Titans yesterday.
Speaker 1: How many guys on the team would start on this
Speaker 1: team would start on that team yesterday? Good question? Okay,
Speaker 1: the best player would the best player either wide receivers
Speaker 1: beating out A. J. Brown or uh Corey Davis. The
Speaker 1: tight ends not gonna be out there? Um now, DJ
Speaker 1: Mett be a third receiver on that team? Um. Uh.
Speaker 1: The right tackles a wash I mean, and that's I
Speaker 1: mean dens Kelly, you probably Jowan probably being about they're
Speaker 1: all washed as across. I would say their left guard
Speaker 1: staffles better than Ben BArch so called the offensive line
Speaker 1: wash because they have a bunch of injuries. But by
Speaker 1: the way we're saying it's a wash, that's the third
Speaker 1: left tackle, Pete right right. Oh, you're the one who
Speaker 1: wasn't bake Cam Robinson nothing know. I just said, now,
Speaker 1: if you had up until up until today, you've been
Speaker 1: saying let him go. You got a pepper guy in
Speaker 1: front of them. I said, if you get them for
Speaker 1: the right price, which I won't change. If you get
Speaker 1: the right price, you not just price come down. Um.
Speaker 1: I think I was at twelve or four teen before
Speaker 1: I think I take Now, I would still take him
Speaker 1: over Queasenberry. I agree, But that's my point. But if
Speaker 1: you look at you're gonna pay for two million for
Speaker 1: a third tackle, you're not. My point is, if you
Speaker 1: go to there, I'll do it differently. Go to the
Speaker 1: starting group that you thought was the starting group in
Speaker 1: the season, and the starting group on their starting group
Speaker 1: on this season. The only you're taking the wan Um
Speaker 1: Staffold and Uh and Uh I'd probably take no, Rale,
Speaker 1: I take Linder, I can and the other kid are
Speaker 1: pretty much close. And you know, Uh, Kelly and Juwanni
Speaker 1: probably like, Okay, it's it's pretty close all the position.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the worst thing that you said, an
Speaker 1: entire thing is that it's close between Kelly and Taylor.
Speaker 1: If you just look at the play being, I'm like,
Speaker 1: not like I think the ceiling is. But right now
Speaker 1: he's played to that hustle. He's played to a Dennis
Speaker 1: Kelly level. And that's a problem. And so I mean,
Speaker 1: the reality is it's not just who do you think
Speaker 1: are gonna be starters on this team next year? At
Speaker 1: at sub level? Who cares? Because you're one of fifteen
Speaker 1: if you like you always say you gotta have some
Speaker 1: of them back. Yeah, you're missing My point, be what's
Speaker 1: the goal now? The way the championship? Okay, so if
Speaker 1: the goal like next year, like the goals to win
Speaker 1: a championship next year too, Now you have to have
Speaker 1: a process to get there. And so yes, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have guys starting that might not be at the caliber
Speaker 1: you need them to be to get to that championship level.
Speaker 1: And you have to build it. It's gonna take time. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know, as you look at this over twelve games,
Speaker 1: now we've had it, and you two things. You go
Speaker 1: back to how do they beat the Colts week one?
Speaker 1: Philip through Joe twice, a team that didn't punt um
Speaker 1: And then you start looking at it and and it's
Speaker 1: a little bit flabbergasting in the sense of, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know about you got JP and Pete.
Speaker 1: But you you start thinking about what we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about on the show thing, and you don't want to
Speaker 1: negative all the time. You don't want to kill these
Speaker 1: guys because I respect them as professional athletes. I respect
Speaker 1: him because they worked hard. They respect him because that
Speaker 1: defense came out and played their tails off for a
Speaker 1: quarter and a half and then it was just too much.
Speaker 1: And you know, you respect the coaches because they're putting
Speaker 1: time in. But at the same time, it's a result,
Speaker 1: a result prianted printed business. If you don't get results,
Speaker 1: you're not getting I mean, who cares? What is Matthew?
Speaker 1: And people are tired of here in their hard work
Speaker 1: and plan the sick of it. It pains me to
Speaker 1: say it. And anybody who's been in the NFL player
Speaker 1: coach anything, you know, look, hard work and dedication. Everything
Speaker 1: I was gonna make, they're not gonna make bad players
Speaker 1: And good players were the first of all hard work
Speaker 1: and dedication and being a pro. That should mean like
Speaker 1: just the base expectation. Get out of here, like we
Speaker 1: don't want you like. You need to get a bunch
Speaker 1: of pros on your team. That's the first thing. A
Speaker 1: bunch of guys who love here's the thing you need
Speaker 1: to get. You need to get a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: who love football, not love being an NFL player. Correct,
Speaker 1: They love the game, don't love being the trappings of
Speaker 1: the game. They love the game. That's the basics. Jps
Speaker 1: chopping at the bid for a break. I can see it.
Speaker 1: He's wavings flopping his little paper JP. When we come back,
Speaker 1: this is a tease. We're gonna ask Tony the question
Speaker 1: you I asked you. Would you do the trade for
Speaker 1: the first I like that. I like that. We'll do
Speaker 1: it when we come back. We've also got so a
Speaker 1: fual questions to get to we return as well. We
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Speaker 1: You know, Mike, you know to the pic and you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, and we were behind. I really wanted to
Speaker 1: try to get a spark and thinking that you know, Gardner,
Speaker 1: could you know, extend plays and and make some plays
Speaker 1: with his feet, and he did that. Head coach Doug
Speaker 1: Marone after the game yesterday explaining the quarterback change and
Speaker 1: the loss to the Titans, and welcome back to Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick Pete Frisco Tony Boselli has
Speaker 1: joined us in the second hour, and Pete, right before
Speaker 1: the break, you promised to ask Tony the question that
Speaker 1: we both were discussing earlier in the first hour about
Speaker 1: possible first round trades to go up Tony, would you
Speaker 1: give up your first round pick this year in a
Speaker 1: second round pick next year, your second first round pick,
Speaker 1: the two first round picks to go up to one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you give up you give up your two your second
Speaker 1: first round pick and a second next year to go
Speaker 1: up one spot. Yes, we all though we all agreed
Speaker 1: we do so, two first rounders, right, the second rounder
Speaker 1: next year? Yes, yes, yes, in a herpeat right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean now, I'm saying that now based on what
Speaker 1: I know about Trevor Lawrence and the rest of the
Speaker 1: field as quarterbacks or justin fields is put on words
Speaker 1: and and the rest of the other guys that you
Speaker 1: would consider it that. Um So, based on what I
Speaker 1: know now, my perception is, and have not done any
Speaker 1: work on this, by the way, my perception is that
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is like, uh like much higher number of
Speaker 1: a couple of notches above the rest of the group.
Speaker 1: And based on that difference, UM would deter how much
Speaker 1: a difference or what that delta is will determine how
Speaker 1: much I'm going to give up. Based on what I
Speaker 1: believe now, what you just said, I would do immediately. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would too. And and again I don't like giving
Speaker 1: up that kind of draft in capitable. You go get
Speaker 1: that guy. You go get them if you can get them,
Speaker 1: if you can get them, you go get them. I mean,
Speaker 1: did you guys, anybody watched Wilson the other night for
Speaker 1: b y U who he was spinning it the other night.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that he looks like he's about fifteen,
Speaker 1: but he's got it. They did a hail Mary and
Speaker 1: he threw it like seventy yards. He can, I mean,
Speaker 1: and he's pretty accurate. He's pretty accurate to and he
Speaker 1: can move around. He's intriguing. He really is. So like
Speaker 1: you have to like you have to evaluate all this
Speaker 1: because here's the other question. If you had Okay, let's
Speaker 1: say Trevor Lawrence is up here and you can't move
Speaker 1: up because the Jets are taking him, um, no matter what,
Speaker 1: And would you move back if someone really wants fields?
Speaker 1: Would you move back two or three spots get Wilson
Speaker 1: and get extra picks? That takes us right into our
Speaker 1: social media questions. Let's go right into him tonight, number
Speaker 1: one from a s bus and to fight seven, could
Speaker 1: we consider trading back to number six with Carolina, who's
Speaker 1: looking for a quarterback? We take Wilson and take advantage
Speaker 1: of what we were seved from that trade to trade
Speaker 1: up and get pits. Sounds like a good first round
Speaker 1: to me, with a franchise quarterback and a deadly weapon.
Speaker 1: Well okay, but there's so many things here to consider. Um,
Speaker 1: so if you move back to six, it's pretty far back.
Speaker 1: And so, uh, you know who's picking third, three, four,
Speaker 1: and five? Do they need a quarterback? Are they interested
Speaker 1: in the guy you want? Because the other theory here
Speaker 1: and the Giants got all kinds of criticism a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago when they felt like people thought they
Speaker 1: took Daniel Jones too early that they could have moved
Speaker 1: back four or five spots and still got down to
Speaker 1: the Jones. And the argument the flip side of that is,
Speaker 1: if you know he's your guy, and you know he's
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, don't risk missing out on take him
Speaker 1: instead of trying to be cute. Moved back a couple
Speaker 1: of spots, maybe get a pick here or there, and
Speaker 1: then you end up missing on it because there's no
Speaker 1: guarantees that someone else isn't gonna move back up and
Speaker 1: take the guy you want, and you have to get
Speaker 1: a quarterback if you're Jacksonville, in my opinion, i'd be
Speaker 1: I'd be careful of that. Yeah, you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: with it. But but if it's it workable and you
Speaker 1: could do it and you don't have a different that
Speaker 1: big a difference in the grave between Fields and Wilson,
Speaker 1: then maybe you do that and get the extra picks.
Speaker 1: But you gotta, like Tony said, you gotta make sure
Speaker 1: that you get your guy. By the way, you know,
Speaker 1: JP you did the game the other day, I saw
Speaker 1: you send out your your call to kick yeah Florida
Speaker 1: with the deal with Pitt So he was a late
Speaker 1: scratch Florida said that he went through free game warmups
Speaker 1: and reaggravated an injury from the week before, and then
Speaker 1: it was a late scratch and then and then there
Speaker 1: were some tweets after the game, of course from Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: There was one with the three dots, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: there was a couple of those type of tweets from him,
Speaker 1: so it made it seem like he wasn't so happy
Speaker 1: about that decision. I know, they certainly missed him down
Speaker 1: around the goal line earlier in that game. They missed him.
Speaker 1: They missed him, But there's more to that story. There's
Speaker 1: something hot, there's something up with that and um, and
Speaker 1: he's a great player. But I will say that us
Speaker 1: there are some really good tight ends out there. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you watch the Miami game the other night,
Speaker 1: but they're tight end. Jordan Brevin Jordan's the heck of
Speaker 1: a player as well. So there are a lot of
Speaker 1: tight ends out there. But there's something that that one
Speaker 1: needs more investigating. Because when he when he's up, he's
Speaker 1: the best in the country. Easy. Yeah, we'll let you
Speaker 1: guys investigate that another day. I don't really care why
Speaker 1: you didn't play at that point at this point, Um,
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'll go back to answer again.
Speaker 1: I would be I would be I would be risk adverse.
Speaker 1: Backing up, if I knew there was a guy W
Speaker 1: wanted and if I have them and I can take them,
Speaker 1: I'm taking them because there's too many things that come
Speaker 1: into it and you gotta be careful and you just
Speaker 1: look at recent history. So um, going back to the question, Pete,
Speaker 1: would you trade to ones and next year's two to
Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence? Um? Would you trade right now with
Speaker 1: this with the Los Angeles Chargers? Would you trade C J.
Speaker 1: Henderson and then and Chase On for Justin Herbert? Yes?
Speaker 1: And then stiff like, yeah, I mean that's nothing he
Speaker 1: is U C J? Or uh um or Chason. My
Speaker 1: point there is the quarterbacks at important. You gotta get
Speaker 1: that right, right, So how about the Okay, let's go
Speaker 1: back to the draft. A couple of years ago. It
Speaker 1: was Mayfield one and Lamar Jackson won the m v P.
Speaker 1: But the guy you take right now would be Josh
Speaker 1: Allen in an instant. Well, you only bring that up
Speaker 1: because you called that one from day one, and you
Speaker 1: I'm just's you love no I've been wrong before. I
Speaker 1: believe me. I thought Christian Pondner would be good, so
Speaker 1: you probably did too. No, I did, But I think
Speaker 1: you gotta you have to look when you get if
Speaker 1: you got an opportunity to go get the guy, you
Speaker 1: get them, get them right, all right? Next question, Yes, sorry, Tony,
Speaker 1: We're gonna move along here at Waco Garena from Argentina. Hi, Guys,
Speaker 1: which Jags players are in the last year the contracts
Speaker 1: that you think will be extended and which players from
Speaker 1: free agency would you like to see until next year?
Speaker 1: Free agency? Is who's under who's under the last year
Speaker 1: of contract that you need to sign? The one guy
Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple, Um d wants mood is
Speaker 1: a good rotational player and he's but you're not gonna.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna. You don't need to sign him, but
Speaker 1: you'd like to sign him. You like it to sign
Speaker 1: Heske need like you have to sign Yeah? Nobody zero? Okay,
Speaker 1: Well well then okay, moving along our next question? Okay, then,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you have to define need. You do
Speaker 1: need to sign a couple of these guys because you
Speaker 1: can't just you're not gonna do it all in free agency.
Speaker 1: Like I would say, dwant Smooth for the right price.
Speaker 1: I'm still looking at Cam Robinson. Um, you've got another
Speaker 1: guy in Sydney Jones, who you know can compete for
Speaker 1: a starting corner and you'll probablyly get him at the
Speaker 1: right price. So there are a handful of guys like
Speaker 1: that that you have to look at. But if you're talking, um,
Speaker 1: is there a franchise player coming up for contract this
Speaker 1: year that you want to get signed a SAP because
Speaker 1: you don't want to hit the free free agency. I
Speaker 1: don't think that the team has one of those guys.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they go out and side and he can
Speaker 1: go away. Yeah, you know, but you look at the
Speaker 1: Dwan Smooth, there are guys available. By the way, Tyson
Speaker 1: Ala was going to be in the band's getting back together,
Speaker 1: freaking Mercedes Flower at it. I mean it's just when
Speaker 1: you look at it, Okay, would you pay Leonard Williams point,
Speaker 1: he's played good this year? He really, But what you
Speaker 1: worry about this is the place you thought he was
Speaker 1: in all along and it came to his contract year
Speaker 1: to get like he's always been good, but this year
Speaker 1: he's like dominating at time, and so what do you
Speaker 1: if you pay him, and he's probably gonna cost you,
Speaker 1: you know, between eighteen and twenty one million to get him.
Speaker 1: Do you get that consistent effort? But like you always, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's one. I'll give you this one. What about Trey
Speaker 1: Hendrickson h d end from New Orleans? Great this year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what, He's probably gonna be a middle
Speaker 1: of the road type of guy as far as the
Speaker 1: number you have to pay him. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think those are the type of guys that you know,
Speaker 1: he's always been. He's always been a guy who loves ball,
Speaker 1: you can tell. Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean he's interesting.
Speaker 1: Let's listen. I said it, and you go back to
Speaker 1: the tape longs I argued about it, Dante Fallers draft,
Speaker 1: it was Leonard Williams or Dante five. Said I would
Speaker 1: take Leonard Williams big, and I thought he has never
Speaker 1: he hasn't played to what I thought he would be though. No,
Speaker 1: but he's always been a very good run defender and
Speaker 1: this year has become a pretty good pass rusher too.
Speaker 1: Remember he played that three two gap defense with the Jets.
Speaker 1: So it's a different type of deal. So you get
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and a guy like Hendricks, Addam to Allen
Speaker 1: and Hambleton's cha right there. That's a pretty good front.
Speaker 1: And so I like depending on the price tag. I mean,
Speaker 1: the one thing like I would really want to do
Speaker 1: a deep dive and you know, let her lender Williams
Speaker 1: is from Daytona right down the road. Um, I wanted
Speaker 1: to do a deep dive and making sure I know
Speaker 1: him from sc my experiences with Leondard Williams. Great dude, um,
Speaker 1: but she just wanted to make sure, like what happened
Speaker 1: this year? Is it just being in a better system
Speaker 1: that he had that led to the production? Like what
Speaker 1: is it? But he is a force to be record
Speaker 1: by the way Hendricks, Leonard Williams, they're in that perfect
Speaker 1: gage bracket. Oh yeah right, our next questions mission from
Speaker 1: at Brandon Bush Street one seven Hall of Fame Talk.
Speaker 1: I've been watching freddie te highlights and two things come
Speaker 1: to mind. One he deserves to be in and two
Speaker 1: on all the highlights you see Tony absolutely pummeling the
Speaker 1: defensive end tenor Tony yards down the field. Tony gets
Speaker 1: in this year and leads away for Fred just like
Speaker 1: he did on the field. Yeah. Well, you know what
Speaker 1: they don't do. They don't show the runs where Fred
Speaker 1: got dumb for two year and loss and to sell
Speaker 1: the guy knifed in front of him and dropped him
Speaker 1: for the loss. They don't They don't show that on
Speaker 1: the highlight. Why yeah, why did I know he was
Speaker 1: gonna say? Look, Tony should get in the Hall this year,
Speaker 1: and I think he will, and Fred should be in
Speaker 1: the hall. There's no question about if Fred Taylor should
Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. So once Tony goes in,
Speaker 1: I think dan it spurs the momentum to get Fred in.
Speaker 1: Look edwun James is going in this year. Uh wait,
Speaker 1: he went in last year, but he's gonna get inducted
Speaker 1: this year. Coming up two, Fred Taylor was a better
Speaker 1: running back than Edger and James. I'm sorry he was. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tony doesn't want to talk about himself. Let's go to
Speaker 1: uh social question. The next one from at buck Eye
Speaker 1: nine oh four. Curious if Pete has scouted any of
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks besides Fields and Lawrence. If so, who
Speaker 1: he feels is the second best quarterback in this draft.
Speaker 1: We can't get this wrong again. I may not survive
Speaker 1: that hashtag Pete the Scout, hashtag go Jags, hashtag JP
Speaker 1: is the Glue. I got the voted for you too
Speaker 1: in that poll. Thank you for the votes. Um. I
Speaker 1: think Wilson's the third quarterback and I'm intrigued by him.
Speaker 1: I gotta watch him some more of a boy when
Speaker 1: you watch him and he can move around, he's athletic.
Speaker 1: He does look like he's fifteen though he could pass
Speaker 1: dustin field. Yes, do I think he will? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but good he yes. I mean they're done. I think
Speaker 1: b y You's done playing and Fields has the Big
Speaker 1: Ten championship this week, and then he'll play in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and so look in the playoffs, everybody goes, oh, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see in the postseason. And not like Clemson or
Speaker 1: Alabama has good defenses, are correct, so we'll get but
Speaker 1: but they do have athletes. It's always good to see
Speaker 1: him because in the Big Ten a lot of those
Speaker 1: teams aren't that good. And so when you see him
Speaker 1: play Alabama and Clemson, you get to see him play
Speaker 1: against NFL caliber athletes. You're seeing that Ohio State per
Speaker 1: Due is not quite the matchup you're looking for in
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship is Ohio State Northwestern and Patrick
Speaker 1: Joe has done a great job with that team, but
Speaker 1: they're not that good head coaching candidate. Yes, yes, what
Speaker 1: does it make sense for the Bears to blow their
Speaker 1: whole thing up and bringing fat Pat fitz Gerald? Do
Speaker 1: you think you know what his style would translate into
Speaker 1: the NFL? I don't know him. I don't, Yes, I do, Yes,
Speaker 1: I do. Our final question from see stevs uh, well
Speaker 1: you look at it. You tell me what that says
Speaker 1: is Steve? It's Steve? Yes, see Steves. See Steve's is
Speaker 1: Chart's attitude and effort a concern. He's not fighting through
Speaker 1: coverage back to the ball and not making the extra
Speaker 1: effort on tougher catches and seems visibly disinterested. Should he
Speaker 1: be a priority signing this season or should we make
Speaker 1: him play it out another year before extending? And there
Speaker 1: you go. That's that's the second one we've heard that from.
Speaker 1: Did you Tony on the tape? Did you see him
Speaker 1: not being as interested and not being as into it
Speaker 1: as he should have been, because we've seen that earlier
Speaker 1: in the year. You know, he doesn't have a great
Speaker 1: body language, at the time, and because you can tell
Speaker 1: he's frustrated, which I don't think is a player you
Speaker 1: should ever do. Because um can be frustrated, you make
Speaker 1: him steak, which is fine, But you don't want to
Speaker 1: be frustrated a teammate on the field because it's almost
Speaker 1: like you're calling that individual out a little bit, and
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna be careful if you had those
Speaker 1: guys throw, you'd be frustrated too. I'm not saying his
Speaker 1: frustration is unwarranted, Beat, I'm saying it's as as you
Speaker 1: mature as a player. You can't do that. If you
Speaker 1: want to be a team leader, if you want to
Speaker 1: be the guy, you can't do that. Um, he's not
Speaker 1: having a great year. But now, is it the quarterback?
Speaker 1: Is it him? Is in a combination of both? Is
Speaker 1: it the injuries? There's a lot going on this year,
Speaker 1: and UM, I still think he's a future building block
Speaker 1: of this team. I still think that you have to
Speaker 1: try to see if you can work out a deal
Speaker 1: this offseason if it's possible. Um, But there's no doubt
Speaker 1: he's not having the season he expects or anyone else.
Speaker 1: And there's no doubt his body link which is not
Speaker 1: very good. So did you see any loafing yesterday? I
Speaker 1: didn't see loafing. No, I'm like, for me to call
Speaker 1: it out, that's not trying or loafing. It has to
Speaker 1: be like obvious, kind of like the Cowboys, like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys last week. Yeah, has to be obvious, obvious, obvious.
Speaker 1: So like watching um, you know he got you can
Speaker 1: tell he's frustrated. Malcolm Butler did a good job on him,
Speaker 1: and he got frustrated. Uh, you know, and some of
Speaker 1: the balls were so poorly thrown. You know, I think
Speaker 1: he just was like, what am I supposed to do
Speaker 1: with it? Uh? Now, couldn't It could be a fought
Speaker 1: back maybe on that deep ball, but I think it
Speaker 1: was almost out of bounds at the same time. So
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you could question and maybe say, man like,
Speaker 1: just even if there's not a chance, just fighting through
Speaker 1: and trying to give a great um effort and show
Speaker 1: great intention would be a good thing. But I didn't
Speaker 1: see anything where like you're saying, oh my gosh, he's
Speaker 1: you know, giving up, or he's lower or he quit um.
Speaker 1: I I didn't see that. Um is their plays that
Speaker 1: I'm sure he watches on tape and which is he's
Speaker 1: got back? Um? Does he need to create more separation?
Speaker 1: Could his routes be crisper at the top of him? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, could he help his quarterback out a little bit? Sure? Um,
Speaker 1: I mean he's not without fault. I mean it's not
Speaker 1: like he can't get better. But if you're asking me,
Speaker 1: has it changed my opinion of wanting him on back
Speaker 1: on the team? Um, that he and that he's one
Speaker 1: of the young good players. I have not changed my
Speaker 1: opinion on the nine targets to about JP. We didn't
Speaker 1: ask Tony about Minshew yesterday. Let's take your time out.
Speaker 1: We'll come back and get Tony's assessment. Think, Yeah, JP,
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Speaker 1: knows well. I think when somebody comes in for only
Speaker 1: one hour of the show, they don't have a say.
Speaker 1: So let's come back in a moment and we'll figure
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Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Hour on a Monday. After a twelve consecutive loss,
Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Pete Briscoe, Tony VA silly you know
Speaker 1: upon for the review. Tony, You're right, and I apologize
Speaker 1: for being so aggressive before the break. We should not
Speaker 1: talk about the standards because they don't matter anymore. They
Speaker 1: don't matter, but they don't listen. I had a conflict.
Speaker 1: I hated it. I couldn't something that was out of
Speaker 1: my control from four to five day. It never happens,
Speaker 1: it did. I apologize, So your comment was fair. JP.
Speaker 1: Keep my mouth shut. If you can't make the first
Speaker 1: part of your dang job fair, No comeback from the
Speaker 1: golf course. But you know whatever first less you would puts,
Speaker 1: you would put the Jaguars ahead of the Texans. Anyways,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna say I was on the golf course
Speaker 1: one more time, JP, I might come down there, find
Speaker 1: you and abuse you. Well, then Okay, how about how
Speaker 1: about them Apples? How about them um Let's start with
Speaker 1: a quarterback talk. Then we'll get to the draft order
Speaker 1: in a moment. So I don't think that matters either
Speaker 1: number two, but everyone, there's no way they can't be
Speaker 1: number two now, right, yes it is. They lose this.
Speaker 1: If they lose this weekend and the Bengals win, then
Speaker 1: there's no chance. Remember, they only have a one game
Speaker 1: they have. The Jaguars have a one game cusher. If
Speaker 1: they win one game, they win one or the next three,
Speaker 1: they still have the number two pick. If they win
Speaker 1: two of the next three and the Bengals don't win anymore,
Speaker 1: or they have the three pick, which which is the
Speaker 1: next three year, they have a chance to Okay, they're
Speaker 1: not being the Ravens Chicago Bears. Come on. Even if
Speaker 1: they beat the Bears, they still would have the number
Speaker 1: two picks. The locked in at number two, so we
Speaker 1: don't need to do the draft power right, So when
Speaker 1: to the quarterback do something else? Let's go all right,
Speaker 1: So Glennon started yesterday, he gets pulled, He threw for
Speaker 1: eighty five yards and two and a half quarters, and
Speaker 1: the gardner Minshew comes in well, did you make of
Speaker 1: the Mints Show's day yesterday, Tony? I didn't make much
Speaker 1: of it at all. I'm being honest. I came in
Speaker 1: three the games, like the defense has changed, the tempo
Speaker 1: of the game change. Um, you know, I think one
Speaker 1: passing through you know, maybe one or two passes traveled
Speaker 1: more than five yards. Uh. And so does he give
Speaker 1: you something more than those other guy eyes, with his um,
Speaker 1: with his feet, his legs. Absolutely he does. Is he
Speaker 1: gonna extend it yes? Is he gonna get out of
Speaker 1: there quicker than he should? Yes? Um. Some of the
Speaker 1: balls at the end were not accurate at all. Um?
Speaker 1: Is that rust? Possibly? So it was like, okay, like nothing,
Speaker 1: I'll say this. Nothing I saw like. I'm fine with
Speaker 1: Doug naming him the starter. Whatever, that's great. I've said it,
Speaker 1: I said it last week. Whatever. Whatever Doug thinks, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna trust he's with it. He has a vested interest
Speaker 1: of winning games. I am now in Pete's corner. Like
Speaker 1: it or not, I'm thinking about next year. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's right. I'm just telling you I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: what does this team need to do so that I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about next year. During the season. Ever again, like,
Speaker 1: I don't like this. I don't like talking about next
Speaker 1: year when we have games to play. I don't like
Speaker 1: talking about people have relationships with possibly losing their jobs.
Speaker 1: I don't like like. I don't like being this negative stuff.
Speaker 1: So I am now looking forward. So if Gardner mits,
Speaker 1: who starts, great, I see anything that makes me go Yep,
Speaker 1: he's the guy. Let's build around it. No nothing, nothing, Yes,
Speaker 1: you watch the tape on the run when he left
Speaker 1: the clean pocket, he ran for thirteen yards? Was there anybody?
Speaker 1: Was there somebody open that he could have hit down
Speaker 1: the field? I couldn't tell. But you know, in this league,
Speaker 1: like I'm talking about NFL Open Open, I have to
Speaker 1: go back and look at that exact play. But here's
Speaker 1: what I don't see him very often throwing into tight
Speaker 1: windows and throwing people open, or anticipating where they're going
Speaker 1: and throwing it in over the middle of the field
Speaker 1: into anticipation where they're going. I just don't see that
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm not trying to be critical of the
Speaker 1: young man. Um, he's a competitor. He wants he works.
Speaker 1: You know, it looks like he competes out there. Um,
Speaker 1: he's gritty, he's gonna fight. He's not afraid to, you know,
Speaker 1: try to make things happen. But do I see a
Speaker 1: guy who's a franchise or a starting caliber quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL? I don't. All right, Let's come back in
Speaker 1: a moment. And by the way, the yes, the not
Speaker 1: so powerful draft order, the Jaguars are number two currently
Speaker 1: with the strength of schedule. The Jets are number one.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get the graphic in for our
Speaker 1: video getting number one. By the way, Jets are not
Speaker 1: gonna do it. Patriots, don't think Belichick, you want me?
Speaker 1: Belichick says, Hey, let's start Stidham this week and see
Speaker 1: what we can do. What if? What if they tanked?
Speaker 1: And you want to sun down all the guys so
Speaker 1: they don't go. Let's come back in a moment. We'll
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, and it is time to go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League in Week fourteen and get to the
Speaker 1: games from yesterday. The Broncos get a win over the
Speaker 1: Panthers thirty two, and in that game, through Lock through
Speaker 1: four touchdown passes. Pete, I'm telling you I like him.
Speaker 1: I think the Broncos have the makings of a pretty
Speaker 1: good offense because I think Lock and throw it. I'm
Speaker 1: getting I'm hearing myself. It's my ear now, that's right.
Speaker 1: I get to hear myself. Just keep talking, Okay, I
Speaker 1: like to hearing myself. Um no, I think lock kJ Hamler. Um,
Speaker 1: you know you get Courtland Sutton back, Judy Noah Fan.
Speaker 1: They haven't making a pretty good offense there in Denver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you sold on. I like, like, I
Speaker 1: want a gun slinger. I think he's a gunslinger. I
Speaker 1: get that, and I haven't seen enough Beata. I'll trust you.
Speaker 1: I mean if walks the guy. Yeah, they got some
Speaker 1: talent and I think munch Checks did a good job
Speaker 1: of the offensive line. They're starting to play better. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, so we'll see. I think for sure. Now
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say for sure. If they finished the season
Speaker 1: the right way. I think Alway brings Vic Fangio back.
Speaker 1: It gives him another year to see if he can
Speaker 1: what he can do. Uh in a non COVID everyone
Speaker 1: you know, not with all the injuries get starts back
Speaker 1: if he but I think he has. They have five wins. Now,
Speaker 1: if he wins to the next three, think he's for
Speaker 1: sure back one of the next three. Six wins. I
Speaker 1: think it's I would agree with you. The Bears over
Speaker 1: the Texans thirty six to seven. What happened to Houston? Well,
Speaker 1: Trubisky and Montgomery and Allen Robinson happened to Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1: It's a bad defense, It's it's a bit, it's a
Speaker 1: bad team. The team's not good. And you know, people
Speaker 1: keep comparing jobs and stuff too. Okay, would you rather
Speaker 1: have Watson and not and have that mess that's around
Speaker 1: them and no draft picks? Or would you rather have
Speaker 1: the Jaguars situation with the number two overall pick. Look,
Speaker 1: the quarterback is great to have, but that team around
Speaker 1: him is terrible and they have issues that they're getting
Speaker 1: the ages there. J J. Watts starting to break down.
Speaker 1: Who rushes the passer? The bad team speaking, they're not
Speaker 1: very good. I didn't see blind like that might dropped
Speaker 1: him in this That might have dropped him in the
Speaker 1: NFC South power ranking. Wow, that's uh. But we didn't
Speaker 1: do him tonight. Remember somebody didn't want to do You
Speaker 1: can't drop him over this team. Mr Word stop it.
Speaker 1: Cowboys sospeaking a bad team's Cowboys over the Bengals thirty
Speaker 1: to seven yesterday we'll just go ahead and skip that
Speaker 1: game because it's Kansas City over Miami thirty seven. This
Speaker 1: was ten nothing Miami and the Kansas City storms ahead
Speaker 1: and they got close late. And you know what, Kansas City,
Speaker 1: that's the greatness of them. Mahomes wasn't that great. He
Speaker 1: threw three picks, he had a couple of tipped through,
Speaker 1: a bad interception, and they were down ten nothing. The
Speaker 1: next thing you know, you look up and it's thirty.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were just dominating and then to have
Speaker 1: made it interesting with some nice plays. But no, Kansas
Speaker 1: City is the best team in the league. Yep. Nothing
Speaker 1: to add there. Arizona over the Giants twenty six to seven.
Speaker 1: And let's see Tampa Bay over Minnesota twenty six to fourteen.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady a couple of touchdowns and Pete, as you
Speaker 1: said earlier, Leonard four net a healthy scratch yesterday, healthy
Speaker 1: scratch Leonard four Net. Yeah that Remember remember when everyone
Speaker 1: was saying the Jaguars are tanking because of getting Leonard
Speaker 1: rid of Leondard Fournette and keeping James Robinson as the starter. Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think now? It's not even close? James Robinson,
Speaker 1: James Robinson is a better just better at everything. He's
Speaker 1: a better football player. James Robinson be voted into the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yes, yeah, I agree. What is he? Where
Speaker 1: is he in? Rushing third in the NFL? I mean
Speaker 1: so he's second in the Yes, yes, yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: I mean he if he I mean, it depends how
Speaker 1: he finishes. He needs to have another good week because
Speaker 1: I think they vote after this week at the week
Speaker 1: fourteen typically, um, I mean, like one and two are
Speaker 1: clearly ahead of him, but by you know that Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cooks two and he's three on yards ahead of him,
Speaker 1: But after that he's he's got a pretty significant lead
Speaker 1: over four. He's a good player. Yeah, he could be
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. Colts over the Raiders seven. The
Speaker 1: Colts nine and four keeping pace, but they're still back
Speaker 1: because of the division record and the Jags win on
Speaker 1: them and the Raiders fired Paul Gunther And I've known
Speaker 1: Paul for a long time. You tell me who's gonna
Speaker 1: make chicken salad out of that chicken dunk? Come on?
Speaker 1: How about how about this? If the Titans went out
Speaker 1: and the Colts went out. The reason the Colts don't
Speaker 1: win the division is because they lost in the Jaguars
Speaker 1: opening day. Yeah, and the Colts are a better team.
Speaker 1: I think they're a better completely because they have a defense.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Titans can go anywhere in the
Speaker 1: playoffs that defense is so bad. Have a chance because
Speaker 1: they can play really good defense. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any question about But by the way, Mike Mayock
Speaker 1: not doing you any favors, bess Elly, Pete, we stop,
Speaker 1: please a few more games here quickly. Seattle dominated the Jets,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot. In New York, the Packers win again
Speaker 1: over Detroit, Chargers over Atlanta. It's twenty to seventeen. Philly
Speaker 1: gets a win quick Yeah, Pete, I want to ask
Speaker 1: you the question, quickly, does do they one from Matt Ryan?
Speaker 1: I mean, he was three pictures and he was bad.
Speaker 1: He was bad. No, Julio, though, I don't care, and
Speaker 1: they move Do they move on from that? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Philly over New Orleans one and Washington wins again.
Speaker 1: The football team starting to rally, Pete. Jack del Rio
Speaker 1: has that defense playing good football. You men have a
Speaker 1: lot of talent up front. By right, Buffalo they are
Speaker 1: they can get after the quarterback, and then Buffalo they
Speaker 1: can they got big players inside Tony. That goes back
Speaker 1: to your theory, you know, block attact, the quarterback, run
Speaker 1: the ball, affect the quarterback, sack them and get a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna win football. But it's not sustainable without
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback the quarterback. That's right. I have the
Speaker 1: quarterback Bills over the Steelers. They have a quarterback both teams.
Speaker 1: In fact, the final score some Steelers fans right now
Speaker 1: might debate Buffalo is better than Pittsburgh a lot better.
Speaker 1: Monday Night foot Oh, we get a sneak preview of
Speaker 1: the Jags Week fifteen opponent Lamar Jackson and the seven
Speaker 1: and five Baltimore Ravens are hovering at the a f
Speaker 1: C playoff cut line. They'll face the churning running game
Speaker 1: of the surprising nine and three Cleveland Browns. Could be
Speaker 1: the fastest game of the year. Two of the top
Speaker 1: three rushing offenses in football. Who you got tonight? You
Speaker 1: know I said that last week when the Browns played
Speaker 1: the Titans and it ended up being off explodeson. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how this will play out, but the
Speaker 1: last time the Ravens blew them out there, the better
Speaker 1: team look, Cleveland's up start. They're nice team, but I
Speaker 1: think the Ravens are getting guys back. They go in
Speaker 1: there and they handle business. You know. My concern is,
Speaker 1: could the Ravens be looking ahead to the big matchup
Speaker 1: next week and they get caught sleeps right, that's right,
Speaker 1: trap game. They're gonna rest guys next week the following
Speaker 1: week and still win, all right, they have. I think
Speaker 1: the Ravens are the better overall team, but I'll tell
Speaker 1: you they better trap it up because the Browns have
Speaker 1: a really good offensive line. Will is their left tackle,
Speaker 1: who was the right tackle in Alabama. Pete maybe the
Speaker 1: best rookie I've seen this year as far as offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: The kids are stud good in the run in the past.
Speaker 1: I love the offensive line for the Browns. I think
Speaker 1: they could run it and against the Ravens, and I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a close game. You know. You
Speaker 1: know that's why you don't pay Cam Robinson Right there,
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselli. We uh we had a show tonight.
Speaker 1: Thanks to our entire crew, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaber for
Speaker 1: Pete and Tony, I'm J P. Shadrick. Thank you, for listening,
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