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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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Speaker 1: to the fundamentals better deer hunting, presented by first Light,

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Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host

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Speaker 1: Tony Peterson. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Wire to Hunt

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Speaker 1: Foundations podcast, which brought to you by First Light. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Tony Peterson, and this week I'm going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the things we often overlook when we start

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Speaker 1: planning our over the road whitetail months. Last week I

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Speaker 1: covered the fine tuning aspects of really taking your ambush

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Speaker 1: sites to the next level, and I think that's something

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Speaker 1: in the deer game. It just doesn't get a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of love, but should and I think March is

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Speaker 1: a great month to do that kind of stuff. I

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Speaker 1: also think it's a great month to start working on

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Speaker 1: your over the road whitetail trips. Now, we all know

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Speaker 1: about some of the stuff involved in this right, like

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Speaker 1: researching tags and e scouting, but there's a hell of

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Speaker 1: a lot of other details that don't seem all that

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Speaker 1: important now until you get like six hours down the

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Speaker 1: road and start setting up camp somewhere, and that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this week with my friends.

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Speaker 1: Last year, one of our neighbors walked past our house

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Speaker 1: with her little boy and a puppy, And when you

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Speaker 1: have twin girls in middle school, a fresh puppy sighting

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Speaker 1: is pretty big news. Now, the next time that neighbor

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Speaker 1: walked by, we all went outside to greet the new dog.

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Speaker 1: It was an eight week old doodle of some sort. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm a dog guy, so I love most canines, even

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Speaker 1: the ones that don't really have a job quite like

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Speaker 1: a I don't know, a German short hair or a lab.

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Speaker 1: Might this pup, Lola, she wasn't meant to be a worker,

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Speaker 1: only a good family dog, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. Without sounding like too much of

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Speaker 1: an ass, I'm usually pretty suspicious of popular breeds. I've

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Speaker 1: talked about this a lot, so I won't go into

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Speaker 1: it too much. But in the dog world, breeds rise

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Speaker 1: and fall in popularity, and that means demand rises, and

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Speaker 1: when it does, prices go up and folks try to

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Speaker 1: bulk up the supply by producing more puppies. Now, if

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Speaker 1: this is a fidget spinner or something, I guess it's

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Speaker 1: not a big deal, but if it's a living, breathing

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Speaker 1: animal that has to be bred in a certain way,

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Speaker 1: it certainly can be. The doodle craze, just like the

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Speaker 1: Golden retriever craze in the seventies and eighties, or more recently,

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Speaker 1: the French bulldog or Belgian malinoa craze, tends to create

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Speaker 1: some questionable breeding. Now people hear about pups going for

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Speaker 1: three or four grand a pop or more than they

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Speaker 1: do the math on the average litter size, and pretty

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Speaker 1: soon they are shopping for private islands and yats. But

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Speaker 1: breeding just to produce more dogs of a certain breed

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Speaker 1: often has disastrous effects on health and temperament. This is

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Speaker 1: not much different than breeding for a certain color of

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Speaker 1: dog or a specific look. When you place esthetics as

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Speaker 1: more important than health or simply quantity of pups over quality,

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Speaker 1: bad results are on their way. Unfortunately, those bad results

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Speaker 1: often don't show until the checks are cashed and the

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Speaker 1: dog has wormed its way into the family and a

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Speaker 1: few years to have passed since the puppy purchase. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't get an amazing dog in

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Speaker 1: a popular breed or that you couldn't end up with

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Speaker 1: an incredible elaborator retriever. Even if your primary criteria when

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Speaker 1: or a red one. You certainly can. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: it's a buyer beware situation if you're going after a

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Speaker 1: super popular breed without digging into the bloodline. Well, our

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Speaker 1: didn't know any better. And she also had a plan

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Speaker 1: to train the dog, which sounded pretty good when she

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Speaker 1: told me about it. She had the pupp enrolled in

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Speaker 1: classes at a dog training center, she had bought plenty

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Speaker 1: of puppy training supplies, and it all sounded pretty good

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Speaker 1: on paper. Fast forward to a few weeks ago, when

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Speaker 1: I was heading down the road to shovel my neighbor's

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Speaker 1: had to give that puppy away. This isn't an uncommon

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Speaker 1: And it's not really unlike hunt planning in a few ways. First,

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Speaker 1: there is the big that has to be right, otherwise

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Speaker 1: how to get a tag, and how you'll eat scout

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Speaker 1: or boots on the ground scout your location. That's big stuff, right.

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Speaker 1: Compare that to doing some due diligence on a dog

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Speaker 1: potentially going to buy. Not breed, mind you, but what

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Speaker 1: kind of a healthy dog should it be? How smart

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Speaker 1: should it be, How athletic, how stubborn, how much prey

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Speaker 1: drive these kind of things. With hunt planning, we devote

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Speaker 1: a lot of time to the big stuff, the big questions,

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Speaker 1: the sexy stuff, like how we should probably hold out

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Speaker 1: for a one fifty plus since we're going to be

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Speaker 1: hunt in southern Iowa and it's loaded with giants, or

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Speaker 1: how much easier it is going to be to leave

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Speaker 1: Georgia and drive up to Ohio to kill a Midwestern toad.

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Speaker 1: We romanticize the trip and we shoot a lot. We

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Speaker 1: book our vacation, we daydream, We immerse ourselves in the

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Speaker 1: notion of what are hunt will go like, and we

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Speaker 1: don't look back. People do this with dogs, especially with puppies.

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Speaker 1: We think about how fun it will be to always

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Speaker 1: kill a limited roosters, or always have a well behaved

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Speaker 1: every night. But this glosses over so much of the

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Speaker 1: reality that we are often blindsided by it. Now, one

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Speaker 1: of the things that people often get wrong with hunt

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Speaker 1: just hard, really hard, even in places with high deer

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Speaker 1: densities plenty of land rome. Now you might be thinking,

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Speaker 1: a smart cookie to question that the thing is hunting

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Speaker 1: deer is more academic than most of us want to admit.

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Speaker 1: You rarely encounter really dumb people who are good at

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Speaker 1: white to hunting. Simply recognizing reality and how difficult of

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Speaker 1: something that might seem overblown in white tail circles, but

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Speaker 1: is well understood amongst Western hunters. If you think packing

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Speaker 1: a bowl elk out of the mountains isn't going to

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Speaker 1: test you, you're probably way wrong. Hell if you think

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Speaker 1: any average elk hunt isn't going to cause you to

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Speaker 1: think about your life choices in a not so great

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Speaker 1: way at one point or another, you're probably way wrong.

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Speaker 1: If you know that going into it, Hell, I know

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Speaker 1: for months ahead of it that you'll get your mental

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Speaker 1: gear squared away. That's important. It's not so hard to

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Speaker 1: both physically and mentally for a long time. For the

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Speaker 1: but there will often be stands to hang, bluffs to climb,

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Speaker 1: rivers to cross, camp to set up and tear down,

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Speaker 1: and lots of shitty weather to sit through. And to

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Speaker 1: be fair, depending on where you hunt, there actually might

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Speaker 1: be some mountains to climb. Now. I'm not saying you

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Speaker 1: should focus solely on the negatives, because that's stupid, but

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Speaker 1: encounter and build in some contingencies for them. An easy

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Speaker 1: want to go to a specific piece of public land

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Speaker 1: in Illinois, for example, that you read about on bow

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Speaker 1: hunting forums, and those internet strangers told you that the

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Speaker 1: they have enough time here in the rut. So you

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Speaker 1: You drop a pile of weight points on ruddy looking

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Speaker 1: hot spots and you figure, I don't know, it's just

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Speaker 1: habitat is just woods. It's not a jungle, it's not

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Speaker 1: prohibitively thick. It's just some good old deciduous forest, the

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Speaker 1: kind that I don't know. Just about any random hunter

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Speaker 1: could walk through just fine. Thank you. Okay, that's a setback,

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Speaker 1: not really there or they aren't really where you're hunting,

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Speaker 1: fun trying to do it is very real. What do

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Speaker 1: that sometimes you can't go all that far away. If

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Speaker 1: then you need a backup. Even if you only relocate

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Speaker 1: all change for you. Now. If you can hunt a

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Speaker 1: Plan B is a real good idea. Driving one hundred

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Speaker 1: a deal considering how much you have at stake for

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Speaker 1: give yourself a real backup option that you have confidence

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Speaker 1: in it. And I'm talking about planning this now. Then

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Speaker 1: drill down some of the hunt details that you might

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Speaker 1: be overlooking. A good example of this is food. Last

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Speaker 1: my food strategy. But I'll borrow something from the elk

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Speaker 1: world to highlight this in a new way. If you

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Speaker 1: go on your first elk hunt, you undoubtedly research food options,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't, your bananas crazy. Since weight is

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Speaker 1: everything to the elk hunter, carrying in light food that

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Speaker 1: leads us to freeze dried just add hot water kind

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