1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: the Weekly zeitgeistal Well, Miles, we are thrilled, fortunate, and 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: blessed to be joined in our third seat by one 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: of the smartest people I know. She's a producer here 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: in my Heart l a podcast studio, helping to create 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: shows like Fake Doctor's Real Friends. She's a fabulous writer 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: who you can read a Vulture, the a v Club, 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: Teamboat Pays, the Advocate, many more. She is the brilliant, 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: the talented Joe Almony. I'm back in the house still 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: the Marvel Defender, so excited to be here today. How 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: are you guys doing. You have a new microphone and 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: it is it is covering your eyes as though you 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: are you had you had it over one eye and 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: you look like like fury. At one point it was 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: covering both eyes and you looked like, you know, a 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: witness on a special that is to cover up their identity. 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: But they're they're just like doing a real half past job. 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: You know it's hard when your brother edits the show, 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: because if you don't record right, you're gonna hear about it, 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: hear about it. So I'm trying to get the mic right. 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: You know, now that I got the professional mic, Like 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I've been podcasting for eight years or something, I just 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: got a real mike. This is crazy. I'm gonna try 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: to hold it here so I can make eye contact. No, don't, 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: don't do whatever you want. I just I thought it 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: was it was fun. It was fun. Yeah, well, we 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: were thrilled to have you back. How are you doing? 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: How have you been since the last you checked in? 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: Was that Gay Friday? One day? Was that? You know? 33 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: For business folks, it's Q four, So everyone needs everything 34 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: right this minute. Don't not later, not thirty seconds from now. 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: Do not take a nap, Do not do that other work, 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: because their work is most important. You know, the six 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: people being like but now like you have to wait, 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: it's coming. Please believe me. I'm working on it. I 39 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: have not forgotten about you. I've sent that email six times. 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: You're still in my thoughts. The actions are coming. Can 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: you record three days ago? I can't. I'm not a 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: time traveler. Unsouly damn it. Someone said you might be 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: as a as a minor podcast Celebrita if I can, 44 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: if I call myself that Also, other networks are now 45 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: bringing me up and being like, so our regulars are 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: not available, will you come slide in and help us? 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is what I've been asking for 48 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: all year. It would be weird if I said no, 49 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: But I just don't sleep now to bed it like eleven, 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: I was up at three. It's fine, and listen, we're 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna get all of it done and it's gonna be great. 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I got the things I asked for, 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna just rebel in that meta. Get your worth, 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: get your worth. Yes, yes, John g let us know 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: something from your search history that reveals something about you. 56 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Well pretty obvious. But the most reason why I have 57 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: is short board shorts size X x L and I 58 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: mean never go away, baby, never go away ever. Ever, 59 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: hard to find, hard to find short board shorts uh 60 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: in my size. So that's what I'm on the hunt for. 61 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: If any listeners here are girthy individuals and have access 62 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: to short, vintage looking board shorts, that's what your boys 63 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: in the market force. What are you looking for when 64 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: you say it? What's what? Like not just to swim 65 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: trunk a short trunk, but has to be a board short? 66 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Like what do you tell what? It doesn't have to be, 67 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: but the I want like board shorts, like I need 68 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: a little stretch. I need a little shortness to show 69 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: the thighs. You can't really surf in a budget smuggler, 70 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: which is what I normally wear at the beach is 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: a speedo, but you can't really surfing it because it 72 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: like could chafe your thighs and stuff. So I just 73 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: want and I don't need to get I'm already getting 74 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: roasted by every surfer that's out there as I am 75 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: on a fucking ten foot foam padded board, like it's 76 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: like a fucking canoe, and I'm just wiping out in 77 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: the fucking shorebreak. They all know I'm a kuk. So 78 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: I just want. I just want, want to be able 79 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: to uh not look not also being a speedo. Oh god, 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: it so you want you you don't want to immediately 81 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: be ideed as a kuk out there? Yeah, I need 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: like one yeah exactly, I need one layer of illusion. Yeah, 83 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: coming up to the water, you might have what it takes. 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: And then they see me in the water absolutely floundering 85 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: with my nipples bleeding. They know what up, You're an 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: Arianna Huffington's out there. Come. So I was in Hawaii 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago and like, I went to 88 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: a beach and they surfers being cracking me up man, 89 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: because they always pretend they was like, yo, you're not 90 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: gonna get in the water. I was just lamming the beach, 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: enjoying myself. Had a little uh cut water vodka mule 92 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: or Moscow mule and drinking, enjoying myself. And then it's 93 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: like surfer dude comes up, Hey, man, you want to 94 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: join the class. You want to get in the water. 95 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I can't even swim like that. 96 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: He was like, you don't need to swim. I'm like, 97 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: they can stop lying, yes you do. You gotta know 98 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: how to swim to serve you can. You should never 99 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: say to someone that says I can't swim, you should 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: go nah, I'm getting the ocean. You shouldn't even get 101 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: on a fuck you're you love cruising and you can't swim. 102 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: I get some lessons justin I'm pretty yeah, I can 103 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: stay alive on the cruise. I'm not I'm not falling 104 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: off the boat. Someone just fell off. Women just fell 105 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: off the boat in Mexico, and and swimming didn't help her. 106 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: She did. No, No, you're right enough. Never learned to 107 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: swim fall off a boat to help you. You go 108 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: argue that, especially if the person who pushes you off 109 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: doesn't say anything. Never let the captain. Oh yeah, that's wow. 110 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: She was saying something and then vanished. That's weird. Yeah, 111 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: I guess maybe not. I don't let check her check 112 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: the casino. She must be the scene of a murder always. 113 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know I like short shorts too. I'm 114 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: thigh gang. I recently I had a suit made for myself, 115 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: and I really like pants are always the hard bit 116 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: to get taylored. And when I was getting fitted, the 117 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: dude getting my measurements like, yeah, you know, you would 118 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: probably always need to have made like pants custom made. 119 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: He's like the set, He's like, your waist is at 120 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: thirty four, but the actual seat that you need for 121 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: your thighs is of a thirty eight, so you could 122 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: either go thirty eight and have them tailored down. He's like, 123 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, you would have trouble finding pants that normally 124 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: fits you because and every time I wear pleated pants, 125 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the bleat is gone because my thighs thick. I'm the same. 126 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: I have huge thighs, a big belly, and no ass. 127 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Pants fit me in the weirdest fucking ways, dude, Like 128 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: they hang off the back, they bunch in the thigh 129 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: and flapping in the butt. I got dad space in 130 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: and look, let's be honest, I got extra space in 131 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: the front too. You know, no ass, no dick, big belly, 132 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: thick thighs, clear heart, can't lose, lose. I understand way, 133 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: I look like you remember the old Montreal expos logo 134 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: that basically look like a d and the beat. That's 135 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: how my eyes and ass look. Big thighs and a 136 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: big ass pants. Just don't pass me. Fucking me up. Man, 137 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: you got that back porch that we love. Baby? What 138 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated? The Mariah Carey Christmas 139 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: song All I Want for Christmas? As you? I do 140 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: not like it it. This came up on my new 141 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: podcast Upworthly Weekly. There was a story about a bar 142 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: I believe it was in Texas that on their jukebox 143 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: said you can't play this song until after Thanksgiving and 144 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: then only one time per night. And my co host 145 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: said he doesn't like any Christmas music, but he does 146 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: like that song, and I was like, you're entirely wrong 147 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: top to about him. I like all christ No, I 148 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: like most I like good Christmas music, but I don't 149 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: like that song. And after this aired, I just really 150 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: got so much ship on Twitter from people, even a 151 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: being of Kevin and Bean was like, Allison, I love you, 152 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: but I'm sorry you're wrong. It's a great song. So 153 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: many people I know, people I respect and love, have 154 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: let me know they love that song. So the other 155 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: day I put it on and I'm like, I'm gonna see, 156 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: and this what a big person I am. I'm going 157 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: to see if I was wrong. Listen to it turns 158 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: out just like I keep trying to eat cucumber and watermelon, 159 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: and I know they're related, I don't I I don't 160 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: particularly like either of them, and I keep trying. I 161 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: tried this song. I was like, okay, I don't need 162 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: to hear it again. I still don't like it. So 163 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: I just feel this song. I'm surprised at how popular 164 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: it is and I feel it's overrated. Yeah, it's a 165 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: It's like it's one of those songs. I hear it 166 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: once in the right context and I'm like ha all right, 167 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: but in my heavy road strange reaction, it's kind of it, alright, 168 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: like you kind of like, hey, I'm gonna best buy. 169 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll buy this blank VHS tape. That's what Jack 170 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: said when his fish got killed. Alright, alright, alright, another 171 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: two are floating today. More food, I mean my fish. 172 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, more food. But yeah, like I'm I love 173 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: I like so that's the thing. I like all Christmas music, 174 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: so I don't hate one. But I can only listen 175 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: to that so many times before I have to go 176 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: back to the old you know, like ear valium hits 177 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: of Christmas music. It is, it has reached a level 178 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: of cultural just dominance that it's I think it's got 179 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: to be by far the most played Christmas song, right 180 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: like a point by multiples, Like it just seems like 181 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: because it's the only one that like nobody's going to 182 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: ever play a cover of that, And yeah, it's just 183 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: so omnipresent. My kids really like it. So I'm in 184 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: kind of a weird position, all right. I actually also 185 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: like it, but prising prising how many how many people 186 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: basic asked, motherfucker's are out here? Hey? Get it's good 187 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: for me for one, all right, then I go on 188 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: with my day. But yeah, I'd be lying if I 189 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: said it didn't give me a little and you go, 190 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: he he all right, when you hear it at best 191 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: Buy at the beginning of the season, like, if it's 192 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: um an indication that it's Christmas season, I can accept it, right, 193 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: But when it when we're in the thick of it, 194 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. Yeah, yeah, I feel 195 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: like not liking that song is probably as close as 196 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: you can get to the experience of being the Grinch. 197 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Like you know how the Grinch like exactly the right size. 198 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: I know, I'm not saying that you are like a 199 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: Grinch in any respect other than that you do have 200 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: those charges of stealing people's Christmas trees for the past 201 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: I guess three years around. I had to fix the light, right, 202 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: But the just you know, the way that he can't 203 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: stand Christmas and like all the Christmas like that is 204 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: basically the most omnipresent thing that you could that I 205 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: could imagine somebody objecting to. That's just like like everywhere. 206 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: I don't know how you could avoid that around the 207 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: Christmas holidays, really you can't. You're right, it's situational grinchiness. 208 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: But I look at it like I love Christmas time 209 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: and everything Christmas Eve so much that I can't like 210 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: that song. I have a question. I think this is 211 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: the reason why I think I only like it at 212 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: the maybe the kick off to the holidays, or like 213 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: in a dynamic situation. It's because the song itself is 214 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: very fast. It's like that tempo. That tempo is too much. 215 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: That tempo is just too much for me. I need 216 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: to bring that ship back because I think in my 217 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: mind the year is ending, so it's slowing down, and 218 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: maybe just my overconsumption of food is contribute to that lethargy. 219 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: But I need the music to also kind of be 220 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: an energetic match for what I needed to take it 221 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: down or not. Yeah, just a little bit, just a 222 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: little bit. But I think that's for me. That one 223 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I like I tend to like 224 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: some of the more classics that are more like brooding 225 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: and just sort of loan. Yeah yeah, Evo of Fire 226 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: a you old log. There's a playlist that we listened 227 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: to called Christmas Crooners and it's all the classics, and 228 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that quite a bit. Yeah, the people who 229 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: I think we talked about it on our Holiday Year 230 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: and Christmas Song episode, but like the people who sound 231 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: like they eventually died of throat cancer, like those, Yeah, 232 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: the classics? What what is something you think is underrated? 233 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: There's so many things I think are underrated. Like I 234 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: was thinking about rain in l A and how everyone 235 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: plains about the rain and how the rain is like 236 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: my favorite thing, and then I, you know, then I 237 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: had this moment yesterday that I really cherished, which was 238 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: when I went to the bathroom at a restaurant and 239 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: I came back and my food was there, and I 240 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: was like, is there a better feeling in the world? 241 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: The best, especially like sometimes you you'll go to the 242 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: bathroom hoping that that's what's going to happen. You're like, oh, man, 243 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: I thought it would be here fun and I'm just 244 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna go to the bathroom and maybe that will be 245 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: the Yeah, Like your maybe can sort of catalyze the 246 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: delivery by going to try into the universe come back 247 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: it's not there, and you're like, actually, sorry, I forgot 248 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: to Uh, I guess I forgot. Rain in l A 249 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: is like a phenomenon that like I was not aware 250 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: of until I started living out here. But the air 251 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: is because it's usually so dry. The air is like 252 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: thick with dust and smug and but it's like a 253 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: lot of you know, just everything is is dusty. The 254 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: reason that, like, you know, road crews need a truck 255 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: out there to like spray down the dust so that 256 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: it's you know, there's just no water, so the dust 257 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: is like hanging in the air. And then like you 258 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: don't realize that, like everything is like being like you're 259 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: you're seeing everything through like a screen of haze. And 260 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: then it rains and like the air is like cleaned 261 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: out of all that, and it's like suddenly like five 262 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: times prettier, and you're like, what have I been inhaling? Exactly? Dude, 263 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: Like air quality in l A. I obsess over it 264 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,359 Speaker 1: in like an unhealthy way, probably, but we all are inhaling, 265 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: like it's just like the pollution is insane. I think 266 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: clean air is another underrated thing because like when I 267 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: go to New York where my family lives, I'm just like, 268 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is how I'm supposed to breathe, 269 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: like my skin is better. Like yeah, so when it rains, 270 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: it's just like a sweet in l A. It's like 271 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: a sweet day of just like incredible air quality and 272 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: also just the rain. It's like so like needed, like 273 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: and it's just like the way the plants react to it, 274 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: like it's just like to have a gloomy l a day. 275 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: It's I mean, I grew up in the East Coast, 276 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: so I love like the snow. I love rain, and 277 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: I love like just whether that changes. Yeah, oh I 278 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, but yeah they're rain is like to 279 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: your point about like how we desk, like we actually 280 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: the earth around here needs it. It really is like 281 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: it's like that sip of water in the middle of 282 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: a hangover, like in the middle of a yes, and 283 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: like that's how the sit. Like the plants react like 284 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: oh fucking thank God. So I do, like in some 285 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: weird way, I feel the same waym like, oh, yes, 286 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: it's good because the earth needs this ship right now, 287 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: like the Mad Max scene when he releases the water 288 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: faucet and down and like I's just like thank thank heavens. Yeah, yeah, alright, 289 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and 290 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: talk about Rand Paul. Unfortunately, and we're back. And so ever, 291 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: since Trump's election, there's been a lot of pulling around 292 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: quantifying the percentage of people who would or would not 293 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: have sex with a Republican. It's always sort of the 294 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: same thing. People that are on the left are not 295 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: as likely to want to be with someone that has 296 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: a antithetical worldview, while conservatives are willing to like bang anyone. 297 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: I guess is like the general thesis here is like, yeah, sure, 298 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: fucket like, which I don't know that the Republicans seem 299 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: to think that this makes them more accepting and like 300 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: open minded, which kind of misunderstands the whole situation. I 301 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: have so many questions, starting with what conversation leads to 302 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: these studies no bracket totally banging Democrats like you couldn't 303 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: They just wouldn't have sex, okay, but I would. Okay, 304 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: but your choice too, doesn't negate their willingness to you know, 305 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: it seems a foolish question. I don't don't because I 306 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: don't understand the bottom line results of this what we're 307 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: supposed to do with this information. And also anyone with 308 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: the brain could have told you that because most I 309 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: feel like I feel confident in saying most Democratic women 310 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: would not sleep with the Republican man because they don't 311 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: want to die. Right, this is pretty much to be 312 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: getting little end of it, Like I just don't want 313 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: to die. I wouldn't be welcomed here. You would want 314 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: to get into some weird racist kink that I don't 315 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: want to engage in. Like it's one of those like 316 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: situations as weird to me that the Republicans don't recognize 317 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: it yet they don't think they're racists, So maybe I 318 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: don't know much about anything. I think it's honestly for 319 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Democratic women, like if I was to fuck a Republican, 320 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: I have to actively recognize that, Oh, he thinks lesser 321 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: of me, and it's a factive self hate to Republican. Yeah, 322 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: but in doing that, you're being closed minded to his 323 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: point of view. My willingness to have sex with you 324 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: isn't the same as my willingness to engage in conversation 325 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: with you. It's weird to be like, you won't let 326 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: me be intimate with you. It's like you're terrifying. You 327 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: would force me to carry that baby to full term. 328 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: You jerk. Yeah, get out of here. I have dildos 329 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: more politically correct than most Republicans. Listen. So the latest 330 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: poll was released over a axios. It pulled college students 331 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: nationwide in November of this year. And this is all 332 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: being framed as I thought the left was tolerant, which 333 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: ignores that tolerance means that you express your openness through 334 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: not discriminating, which is discrimination is the very basis of 335 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: the entire modern and historic Republican point of view, since 336 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, for most of the twentieth century. But yeah, 337 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: so women are more likely than men to take a 338 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: strong partisan stance in their personal choices. I wonder if 339 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: it has anything to do with what you guys are 340 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: just mentioning about, you know, differences of opinion around you know, 341 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: you're right to have a say of what you do 342 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: with your own body. They found forty one percent of 343 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: women would go on a date with someone who voted 344 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: for the opposing candidate, compared to sixty seven percent of men. 345 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: Of women would work for someone who voted for the 346 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: other candidates percent of men and just sixty percent of 347 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: women compared to eighty four percent of men would shop 348 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: at or support the business of someone of the other party. 349 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: I feel like that's convoluted because you don't know everyone 350 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: you're buying to stop it hugely. Think you if their 351 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: opinions were publicly displayed and we're I don't know, actively 352 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: harming a community and you were very aware of it, yes, 353 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: of course you would not shop there. But otherwise you're 354 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: you're just trying to get whatever it is you're trying 355 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: to get and get on with your day. But I 356 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: also feel this is from the perspective of the way 357 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: Republicans are sort of projecting themselves into media right now. 358 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: There's this idea of like we're being left out. We 359 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: can't be in the main stream. I don't understand how 360 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: you can be. I'm against the government and frankly individual liberties, 361 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: and I want everyone to carry a gun. I don't 362 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: care whether you feel safe, but also please include me 363 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: and all of your activities. Why am I not invited 364 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: to the picnic? Why are you afraid of me? There's 365 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: such as boiled hot dogs, damage the hot dogs, oil 366 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: the hot dogs, and it's nasty and foul. You did 367 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: not use the correct seasoning. All of your best recipes 368 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: come from the black people you used to own like 369 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: it's weird. Get out of here. Yeah, I don't. I 370 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: truly do not understand how you can want to be 371 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: so antisocial but also be involved in the culture at 372 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: the same time, Like lions have to be drowned somewhere. 373 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: It's almost like they're wildly entitled and have no sense 374 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: of the fucking damage and harm that they're horrifying beliefs. 375 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: Cause I just read an article that was all about 376 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: what it was like inside Germany after they lost World 377 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: War Two and just like the you know, coming to 378 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: terms with themselves as as Nazis, and it was a 379 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: very slow process that involved a lot of cognitive dissonance 380 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: and people just not being willing to recognize what they did, 381 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: kind of the same way we did with slavery. I 382 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: really feel like it's exactly the same. Sure, there was 383 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: like but if you think about everything happens before the 384 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: launch of Gym Crow, it's like, oh, black people are free. 385 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: That's a sort of terrifying. Um keep them in their 386 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: own communities just well, just like gently exclude them from everything, 387 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: and uh, you know what, you can pay them two dollars, 388 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: it's fine, Like really really lower that minimum wage so 389 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: that we can keep them at reasonable prices and we 390 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: don't tank our economy. And then it was like, oh 391 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: they got their accumulating wealth, cannot have. We do not 392 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: like them living better than us. Put on your burned 393 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: their couns down, get rid of it. The law. People 394 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: don't like that we're breaking the law. Got it, Jim 395 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: Crow laws. Now now it's legal and it's fine them. 396 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: Racism is over. What are you talking about? It's such 397 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: a weird I guess as we as people, and I 398 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: just mean human beings in general just are not comfortable 399 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: accepting our roles in awful things and are our best 400 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: defense to quote uncote protect ourselves is just distance yourself 401 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: as much as possible, as quickly as possible from what 402 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: you've done, but also don't change anything because we sort 403 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: of like how things are. There was a Twitter thread, 404 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: i'm wanna say yesterday or maybe a few days ago, 405 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: where a black family was selling their home in San 406 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: Francisco and they got appraised and it came in super low, 407 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: but they had an odd feeling about it, so they 408 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: had their white friend step in and redecorate a little 409 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: bit by changing photos, had it reappraised again, went up 410 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: like doubled essentially. Yeah, and a lot of black people 411 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: are doing this. Now. Just call a white friend. You should. 412 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: Everyone should have one. You need one good white friend. 413 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: They can come bail you out when things are sticky. 414 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: I like to keep white ladies around, particularly once I 415 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: can cry on cue. Um. So she was ready for me, honey, Like, 416 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: let's do it. She's a good person. We don't hurt her. 417 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: So I feel safe in large spaces. Yeah, that's it's 418 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: it's chippy. There's a different article today about a woman 419 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: who can pass and she doesn't try. She just can. 420 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: People don't recognize that she's black, and she lives in 421 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: an affluent white neighborhood. And she just wrote, like talked 422 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: about all of the things people have said to her 423 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: because they don't know she's black. And like, my favorite 424 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: one is like why do you have a Black Lives 425 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: Matter sign? Like that you're just out here killing themselves. 426 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: Like man, ma'am exhausting, Jesus Christ exhausting. What a great 427 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: time to be alive, truly truly. Yeah, I mean America's 428 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: been bad, a bad place to be alive for a 429 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: lot of people. It's just like I think we're now 430 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: coming to terms with it. I just think every generation 431 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: has to continually come to terms with it though, right, 432 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: especially because we do a lot to shield our children 433 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: from terrible things for good reasons. You should be able 434 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: to have a childhood and I have to deal with 435 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: the stuff. But then suddenly it's like, okay, so we're 436 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: just gonna talk about slavery. They did what my successors. 437 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: I would be there, crap, that sucks, okay, and I'm 438 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: gonna talk to you about how we tried to extinguish 439 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: an entire like race of people when we first got here. 440 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: What that's awful. I thought we enjoyed Thanksgiving. That's not 441 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: how that actually went out. We have to problemstantly go 442 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: through this process of unlearning things that we've learned. And 443 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: I think, m it's valid because it's something way it 444 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: could stay fresh and it's uncomfortable. Like Barry Jenkins just 445 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: did this great series on Amazon called Underground, and he 446 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: spoke a lot about how he was like, I didn't 447 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: want to dwell in it. But at the same time, 448 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: I can't ignore sleep. I can't not looking in the 449 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: face and address it directly. When my ancestors survived that, 450 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: I have to go look at it and stay in 451 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: these places and try to feel and come to terms 452 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: with what happened. I think it sucks, a really sucks, 453 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: but I also think it's vital. Yeah, So this article 454 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: Germany went from they're kind of national, like the zeitgeist 455 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: opinion was that like their loss in World War Two 456 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: and all the you know, revelations around the Holocaust were 457 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: a part of a Jewish conspiracy. They called it. American 458 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: financial interests had like put together this conspiracy. But as 459 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: we talked about on an episode last week, like Germany 460 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: has become you know, not they're not perfect, but they 461 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: are a model of like a nation that has actually 462 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: accounted for, like come to terms with at least and 463 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: is trying to pay reparations and like do actual things 464 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: to to deal with their past. So there there is 465 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: a a path to it. It's just a long and 466 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: painful and fucking brutal one, but like the work needs 467 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: to be done. My roommate, well, she actually just moved 468 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: back to Germany. Her grandfather was literally a Nazi. And 469 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: the way she talked to me about it, they say, 470 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: we not you never talk about the individual families because 471 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: there is that great shame about just the involvement. So 472 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: it is talked and still uncomfortable, but it's like we 473 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: all fucked up and we're going to talk about it. 474 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: And it was more of a community change and you 475 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: just don't talk about the individuals because it's just she 476 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: said it like it ate her up inside, like how 477 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: could my grandfather be such such a terrible human? You know, 478 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if America could ever get to that. I 479 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: feel no, I want to believe, but I also feel 480 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: like we're again just as a country, just like, especially 481 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: for last year, was any indication, you know, there was 482 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: that giant swell of like, we are not gonna let 483 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: this happen anymore, and we're gonna hire so many black 484 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: people and we're going to like put some respect on 485 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: indigenous people's names and it's going to be changed forever. 486 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: And then this year to see a ton of black 487 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: freelancers talking about how projects that got picked up suddenly 488 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: dropped agents just not calling back, like it was just 489 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: a complete abandonment within a year. And I think that's 490 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: sort of our future trajectory. It's just kind of like 491 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: these small swells of like, oh, we don't want to 492 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: be that, but we're legitimately never going to change anything. 493 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: But please don't think of us that way. It's just 494 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: I think we prefer that contradictory state of existence. Yeah, 495 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean, something will have to change because to this 496 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: point it's been just a steady rhythm of people coming 497 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: up against the reality of America's history and the reality 498 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: of America's present, and then there is a white backlash, 499 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: and you know that we're seeing that. We saw that 500 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: in January six, we'll see that probably in election, which 501 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm as pessimistic about as I think I've ever been. 502 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, I just don't so something will need to change. Alright, Well, 503 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: real quick. Chris Wallace has left Fox News. It was 504 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: a surprise announcement at the end of his UH Sunday show. 505 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: He's apparently going to CNN Plus, which is CNN subscription 506 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: service that will I think compete to be the least 507 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: subscribed to service of any sort that that anyone has 508 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: ever launched. But maybe not. I just I don't I 509 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: don't understand why you would subscribe to that instead of 510 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: just have CNN on talking about whatever. But anyways, I 511 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: don't know behind the scenes machinations. I do think we 512 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: are seeing broadly, like people positioning for like the fourth 513 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: Reich that is going to be out in the open 514 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: white supremacy and fascism starting around election, and you know, 515 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: Fox is putting themselves in in position to no longer 516 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: really have that critical kind of news focused side of 517 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: things and you know, just be full Tucker Carlson ledge. 518 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess like his Tucker Carlson's Patriot Purge 519 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: documentary and quotes. It was something that Chris Wallace had 520 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: criticized and so that that might have ledged to this. 521 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, he's had the unfortunate distinction of 522 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: being like the one of the few people who like 523 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: would try to acknowledge like some level of how bad 524 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: ship was with Trump and being objected like should a 525 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: president do that? They're like, Okay, you fucking Democrat, get 526 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: the funk out of here, and like, I know, let's 527 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: just say that's a real question. And yeah, I mean, 528 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: I think it's it's really I think the fact that 529 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: you have these sort of challengers to the throne in 530 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: like oh A n and Newsmax that's pulling them even 531 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: further off the ledge because they're seeing that they were 532 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: like hemorrhaging viewers to like Newsmax in certain like time 533 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: time slots, and that's only bad for Fox quote unquote 534 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: News because yeah, like as you see, Tucker Carlson is 535 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: a slowing down or Ingram's not slowing down, it's just 536 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: getting further and further into their sort of you know, 537 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: white dominated fantasy world fascism all the time. Yeah, exactly. 538 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: But I think that's I think people are going to 539 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 1: be surprised by how much a second Trump administration is. 540 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 1: Like the lesson they will have learned is to just 541 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: get rid of like anything resembling breaks on the Trump 542 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: train and just go like full unadulterated like authoritarianism and 543 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: fully like trying to make adjustments while he's in office 544 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: to keep him in office and you know, make it 545 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: so that he can't be voted out. So that's I 546 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: think where we're headed. But hopefully CNN plus can save 547 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: us and and N plus will get us our voting 548 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: rights restored. I definitely think cable news is what's going 549 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: to save us. I'm glad saying because that's what I'm hoping. 550 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: Person of the Year, they told us the truth about 551 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Thank you, Like oh God, focusing on all 552 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: the right stories all the time. Yeah. Yeah, Time Person 553 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: of the Year will be like Donald Trump presents Time 554 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: Person of the Year. Like Time Person of the Year 555 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: this year is Donald Trump. Yes, who's like the next 556 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: person of the year, the next most personist of the year. 557 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's got to be Avonka, right, I might 558 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: only one who it feels like it's to suck full 559 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: of loose bullets Joe Rogan. Yeah, no, it's really dark. 560 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm just hoping there's something in that week that can 561 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: happen that can prevent Trump. And I hope that, like 562 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats are able to at some point do things 563 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: for people that really affect their day to day lives 564 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: and in a positive way, so we can just avoid 565 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: total fucking utter disaster in two years. Yeah, the data 566 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: set not looking too good, but we've gotta keep our 567 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: eyes peeled and like, yeah, I think it's more and more. 568 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: I hopefully more and more people actually get in touch 569 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: with how die or the situation, especially as it relates 570 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: to like election boards, like you're already seeing like Georgia 571 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 1: they're purging black members of elect on the election boards. 572 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: It's it's like it's they're they're very much fully positioning 573 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: themselves to be able to flip a switch and just 574 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: say like, no, man, the winners, whoever the funk we 575 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: say it is, and you're gonna have to fucking accept that. 576 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: And I think that's I don't think that reality has 577 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: been communicated properly in the news. Two people. It's just 578 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: always like wow, like they're doing a lot of news 579 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: like a voter suppression right and saying like, hold the 580 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: funk on this idea that you live in a country 581 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: where you could go and vote. I mean even now, 582 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: I mean many way would argue, you know, what, what 583 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: what good does it do now? But even further so, 584 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about just absolute vaporware and they're you know, 585 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: even less accountability. Is that a fucking situation you want 586 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: to be in? I mean, it's already bad enough now, 587 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: and to go deeper down that hole I think is 588 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: a reality that I think Americans aren't able to fathom 589 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: because voting has always been like a thing that's like yeah, 590 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: you vote, and then like whoever get some most votes 591 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 1: you win? Since you're in school, are doing like school 592 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: elections as a kid, But that's that idea of like 593 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, whoever has more better, like more people supporting 594 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: their ideas wins. That's uh more, very quickly becoming an afterthought. 595 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: It totally is an afterthought. And it's also just like 596 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: the entire way that electoral politics work is based on 597 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: the idea that it's not actually the amount of people 598 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: who want something that wins. I mean, if that was true, 599 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: Hillary would have won, right Like, it's sort of this 600 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: idea that is part of our system, and we've sort 601 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: of like I think because of that, there's this acceptance 602 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: of like, yeah, well that's not how it works here, 603 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: Like it's not about the most popular, it's about the 604 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: system that we have that we don't totally understand. And 605 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: I think it's sort of ingrains this idea and you 606 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: that you don't have control over anything. Um so like 607 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't know. I think it's sort 608 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: of trickles down the way that the voting suppression is 609 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: happening right now. I think you're right where there is 610 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: a disconnect from like, no, people actually are not going 611 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: to be able to vote, and like this is ultimately 612 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: going to change the fabric of electoral politics in our country. 613 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: I do think there's a little bit of a disconnect 614 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: from a lot of people and like myself, including at 615 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: times included at times, as I've learned about these issues, 616 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: I think there is like a sense of well, how 617 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: bad can it be? Like we all vote it and yeah, 618 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: even independent of the suppression and the like you know, 619 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: rigging and changing that's happening at the local level. There's 620 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: also the current The Democrats who are currently empower seem 621 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: like they think, well, just that we'll get people to 622 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: vote more now because they will recognize how bad it 623 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: can get as as a strategy, and I don't, which 624 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: is so fun up. It's like, no, they want to 625 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: recognize that you can help them. They want to recognize 626 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: that when you're in power and when you have all 627 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: branches of the government, there can be actual actions that 628 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: impact someone's life, instead of learning that like the Senate 629 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: parliamentary and is a thing we've never heard that ever, 630 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: but now we can't cripnimum wage. Sorry, like that is 631 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: not a winning strategy for Democrats. They actually have to 632 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: do something to show people that when they're in power, 633 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: their lives are improved. And it's just like shocking how 634 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: little they've been able to achieve and like yeah, yeah, sorry, 635 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: I won't get too much into it. I don't really. 636 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: I think it's it's I mean, and it's a habit. 637 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: It's a habit that both parties are unable to break, 638 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: right because the line really does end with is this 639 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: going to help people? Well, then we can't do that, 640 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, like that there, and I think the difference 641 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: being is it you know, you see all those memes 642 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: in the version of like what Republicans say, what Democrats saying? 643 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: The Democrats saying the same things after like better fonts 644 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: and emojis around it, while though the substance of it 645 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: is the exact same. And yeah, I it is disheartening 646 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: in that sense. And I think that's the sort of 647 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: reality too that I think that you just can't be 648 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: uttered on TV because it's like it's too real to say, 649 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm like fucking MSNBC. It's like, well, to be honest, 650 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: like there's the will to really get things done is 651 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: about around the same because when it comes to really 652 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: fighting for things that are going to help people, they 653 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: will is just not there. And there are you know, 654 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: there are transformational things that were being proposed, but we're 655 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: already seeing they get diminished and diminished and diminished. And yes, 656 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: they are still meaningful also because the bar is so low, 657 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: and I think we there's we really have to, you know, 658 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: as it's hard to I think see Americans truly demand 659 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: to get the things that they want out of their 660 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: politicians because like to your point, Ali, like it's just 661 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 1: it becomes a thing where you think, well, what's nothing's happened, 662 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: so what good is it doing? And then you see 663 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: how Democrats want to motivate the base, and it's like, 664 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,959 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, if you guys don't vote, they're 665 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: some it's gonna get bad. Well you're you're there, though, 666 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: to do that for us? Where's that? Where's the funk? 667 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: Is that? What are y'all doing? The just vote like 668 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: tweeting just vote whenever something bad happens is just not 669 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: a winning strategy anymore when you guys have power and 670 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: we did vote, and this is what's happening, So like 671 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: you need to change your tune. We voted, Yeah, try 672 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: to act on it, like yeah, I think bringing home, Yeah, 673 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna go real bad. I think it's 674 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: gonna go real bad mid term, probably slam age and 675 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: then they'll panic and then figure it out. Maybe it's 676 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 1: just make good time. But I also see it happening 677 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: like they doubled down on the nonsense, and you're like, Okay, well, 678 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 1: now they'll see now they'll be scared by the fact 679 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: that we lost the mid terms, and then they'll really 680 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: come out. It's like, oh, the Republicans are now controlling 681 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: the House, and they stripped everyone of committee assignments, so 682 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: now right, Yeah, I feel like that's not the thing 683 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: that's going to spur everyone to action that they might 684 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: think it is. I feel like there's a disrespect of 685 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: like the people of like well, like Democrats can't do 686 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: anything because like cinema and mansion, so like sorry, like 687 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: we just need to vote for more Democrats. Whereas like 688 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: there's this I I I don't know. I mean, not 689 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: everyone in the country is politically informed, but I do 690 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of people understand that actually the Democrats 691 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: could do so much more and are not, and they 692 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: continue to like just bank on the like ignorance of 693 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: the people in a way that like I find is 694 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: like really disgusting, Like like a lot of the rhetoric 695 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: or at like the like rov Wade also like I 696 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: was disturbing to me for that reason, where it's like 697 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: when you got like there there were opportunities to actually 698 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: like codify this into law that we just like wasn't 699 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: a priority because abortion rights are how are like a 700 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: really important political issue for Democrats. So I do think 701 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: there's like a few like gross rhetorical ways that the 702 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: Democrats are operating right now and they're at reality is 703 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: like things were sucking dire, like Trump's gonna win, Like 704 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: we just need to like shut up and like not 705 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: like wull Republican moves like with like Supreme Court, like 706 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: do something that is actually going to change the way 707 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: the people view the possibilities of what can happen when 708 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: the Democrats in power. Yeah, all right, let's take a 709 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back and talk about that 710 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: hockey fundraiser. And we're back and memit Oz, as we 711 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: talked about, he's running for Senate in Pennsylvania because his 712 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: in laws live there and I guess it's pretty crowded 713 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: field and so he it's a challenge, but he he 714 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: feels he's up to it and he but he's pissed 715 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: because the Philadelphia anchor has started referring to him as 716 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: Mr Oz and he's like put some respect on my name, 717 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: put some respect on my fucking title. And yeah, he 718 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: came out swinging. I don't know why with this like 719 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: walk and talk video. That's like again, I don't know 720 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: why he thought this needed production value, because again, just 721 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: to somebody who's directed videos, you should have your subject 722 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: begin walking before you roll the camera. So it's not 723 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: that awkward and I'm walking movement, but anyway, that's fine, 724 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's a free tip from me. But here's 725 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: him complaining about how he's been OMG canceled. Last week, 726 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: the Puldelfie Inquire had on their front page as Dr Oz. 727 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: This morning they just announced no more doctor, even though 728 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 1: a practicing position taking care of patients. I've done thousands 729 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: of heart surgeries. They don't want to call me doctor anymore. 730 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: I won't be canceled. Oh my god. Hell yeah, video 731 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: rules so dumb, Like like I love I love the 732 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: little tilt shift depth of field. It felt very cinematic. 733 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: But again just from you know, just a quick direction 734 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: note you could have you could have trimmed the top 735 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: down right, because doing it like that, it's like and 736 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: he's in a parking lot. I feel like he's going 737 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: to tell me about the deals on cars they have 738 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: crazy crazy down right, He like throws the newspaper out 739 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: of frame. Someone hands in him an umbrella from off camera. 740 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: He puts it because it's raining deals and like the 741 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: water comes down. But that's not the only thing. It's 742 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: like that Dollar Shave Club commercials. So you know, he 743 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: he released this video. He's complaining about being canceled. But 744 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: the thing is, the Philadelphia Inquired they made a conscious 745 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: decision not to be like, let's funk with doctor Oz 746 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: that they didn't want to use like these titles when 747 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: reporting on candidates, Like they just don't want to have 748 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: these honorifics to you know, just to kind of a 749 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: level playing field so people might not be swayed by 750 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: this title. So they said, quote, do not use doctor 751 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: on first reference for anyone with the title, whether they 752 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: are a medical doctor or have a doctorate in a 753 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: non medical field, to avoid complaints of unequal treatment from 754 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: individuals who worked hard to achieve doctorate's in non medical fields. 755 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: Because sometimes they'll only give doctor to like an m d. 756 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: And it's in like, you know what, we don't need it. 757 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 1: All they're saying is we don't want to just habits 758 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: seem like, you know, there's any kind of our thumbs 759 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: are on the scale in any possible way. They are. 760 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: The only exceptions that they have are for obituaries and 761 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: Dr Martin Luther King Jr. So shout out acquired, inquired 762 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: for that. But yeah, I mean, I think it's just 763 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: clear that you know, Oz, doctor Oz is like this 764 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 1: TV character and this whole campaign is about It's about 765 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: brand awareness. He knows that he's not going to win 766 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: because he has any kind of mind for legislation. He's 767 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: there because in the Culture Wars he's emerged as a willing, 768 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, embracer of bullshit pseudoscience to normalize it on TV. 769 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: And so for him not being able to, like the 770 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: thing with Donald Trump is Donald Trump was his brand name, 771 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 1: you know, mement Oz is not Dr Oz's brand name. 772 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: Doctor Oz is his fucking brand. So I think that's 773 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: why he's just out You're being like, I don't what 774 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: they're canceling me because that's my brand. It's Dr Oz erasure. 775 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: They're erasing him, if I understand correctly, it's their style guide. 776 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: So it's not just for political candidates, it's like across 777 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: the board, and I used to work in magazines that 778 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: had style guides and things, and so it is an 779 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: interesting debate because generally you you always defer to the 780 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: style guide, except you know, communication to the readers is 781 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: more it is more important than the letter and the 782 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,959 Speaker 1: law of the style guide. So in a situation like this, 783 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to come out on his side 784 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 1: because that would make me bark. But in a situation 785 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: like this where people do know him, like you're saying 786 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: that's his brand as doctor Oz, do you make an exception? 787 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: I say, I don't think so because in this context, right, 788 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: you're trying to treat people as political candidates who are 789 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: like people running for office, and you want to give 790 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: people like you want to say, oh, this is Connor 791 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: Lamb who is running, who's also running, Here's Jon Fetterman 792 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: who's also running. And there you'll typically give a description 793 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: mahmod Oz who is out practicing blah blah blah blah blah. 794 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: Like you know, if you're writing it up, you're not 795 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: gonna avoid mentioning. You know, what qualifications they may have 796 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: or what they do for work as it relates to 797 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: their candidacy. And if it was like little Kim running. 798 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: They're not going to be referring to her in the 799 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: paper as little Kim. No, they're going to call her. 800 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna call her, uh queen be put the hex 801 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: on the whole family dressed in all black, like the 802 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: woman as her first and all about the Benjamin's goes. 803 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think this is one of those moments 804 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: where again it's the brand awareness. And it's funny too, 805 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: because there is another medical doctor running in this same race, 806 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: Dr val Arcouch. And you know she said, I have 807 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: no problem with this. That's fine. I'm really here to 808 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: talk about these ideas I have is potentially a senator 809 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,879 Speaker 1: and not to say, like, because I'm a doctor, vote 810 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 1: for me. And you know she's also not out here 811 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: saying things because she's an actual obstetric anesthesiologists, like your 812 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: vagina is a self cleaning oven, So you know, Dr 813 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: val Arcouch, I might have a little more sense than 814 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: Dr Oz here. Yeah, this is also like so basically 815 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: it's not that they created this rule. After doctor Oz 816 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: like became a candidate. They wrote an article in which 817 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: the front page headline, and photo caption, and first sentence 818 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: all referred to doctor Oz as doctor Oz and then 819 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 1: they came out more like, actually, we realized that does 820 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: not fit with our style guide and like they were 821 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: basically doing reacting to the reality you were talking about, Miles, 822 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: that this is a brand Doctor Oz and like so 823 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: that is how he exists in most people's brains as 824 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: Doctor Os. But like that is doesn't stick to it 825 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: doesn't fit within the rules of their of their style. 826 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: It's they didn't make a change, which is what I 827 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: assumed at first. It's just there was a mistake to 828 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: run it as doctor first time. But the idea that 829 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: we want to elect that TV personality into office as 830 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: opposed to we want to lack this person of substance 831 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: who happens to have a show the former terrifies me. 832 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: It's what we've already done and didn't go well, and 833 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: apparently we're doing it again. We'll see. All right, Well, 834 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about Mr Big, not Dr Big, but it 835 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: is officially his name, Mr Big. So this is going 836 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: to be technically a spoiler for the Sex and the 837 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: City reboot and just like that, So if you haven't 838 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: seen that and for some reason are her like really 839 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: holding out hope to be caught off guard by the 840 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 1: twists and turns um and there is a big twist 841 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: in the in the first episode, then maybe stop listening here. Okay. 842 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: So in the first episode, we opened with Carry being 843 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: married to Mr Bib played by Chris Noff, and then 844 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the first episode, Big guys of 845 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 1: a heart attack after exercising on his peloton bike. He's 846 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,720 Speaker 1: discovered by Carrie, who, despite the fact that he's clearly 847 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: still alive when she finds him, doesn't call an ambulance 848 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: or anything for several minutes until her voiceover reveals that 849 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: he died. It's a very strange, prolonged scene, like kind 850 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: of on the level of that, like it reminded me 851 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 1: of the Lonely Island sketch with the where they keep 852 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: shooting people in the music. Yeah that what you say thing, 853 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: because it's just like, wait, so he's like he's still alive, 854 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: but he's holding his arm. Criminal charges should be brought 855 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: against Carrie on the bathroom floor, right, he's like in 856 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: the bathroom shower, but like he's still like sees her 857 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: focus on her. Maybe he but like he looks a 858 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: little vacant, but definitely the move is to immediately call 859 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: nine one one as you're trying to, but instead she 860 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,439 Speaker 1: like jumps into the shower and then like starts hugging him, 861 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, people react when experiencing grief 862 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: and shock in different ways. But and then I think 863 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: at one point she starts like trying to perform mounce 864 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 1: in mouth on him, which seems weird because he's still luck. 865 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: But anyways, I don't know where they're like kissing, but 866 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 1: it was like a weird like I do not recall 867 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: her doing any sort of resuscitation. It was just a 868 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: real like and then you see her special shoes that 869 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: she had worn that day, which she apparently wore when 870 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: they got married. They get all wet, but it just 871 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: seemed like a like now I'm just gonna hold you 872 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: and it's inevitable that you're going to die, when in 873 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 1: real life, probably in real life, there's there was probably 874 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: time to do something right, right, Yeah, I mean, yeah, 875 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: that's a terrible reaction as someone's having a medic emergency, 876 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: and yes, console somebody, but my first thing is like 877 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk to do. Yeah, she 878 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, what what the fund is happening? 879 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god? You know, she was just a heart attack. 880 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: Hold on, I can also hold someone and be on 881 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 1: the phone. Okay, carry the fuck. It's yeah, it's probably 882 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: just bad writing, which I would say the this reboot 883 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,919 Speaker 1: thus far suffers from a great deal of but they um, yeah, 884 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: so Peloton the news story. This became a news story 885 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: because there hasn't been in recent memory a example of 886 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: product placement that so directly kills one of the characters, 887 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: like through its use as advertised. Basically, like the the 888 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 1: idea that you're like democratizing like spin classes and like 889 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: putting it in fifty something guys homes so they can 890 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: like do the workout in the in the privacy of 891 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: their own home. Like that is basically the pitch of Peloton, right, 892 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: And that is also the exact thing that kills this guy, 893 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,479 Speaker 1: is that like he probably shouldn't be exercising as hard 894 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 1: as he was. He probably shouldn't be exercising without somebody present. Well. 895 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: It's also super weird though, because in the show and 896 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 1: in the culture around the show, it is understood that 897 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: this Peloton ride is what did him in. I guess. However, 898 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: I feel like that doesn't have to be the truth, 899 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: because someone who has a bad heart, like maybe he 900 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: it was gonna go at that time no matter what 901 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,240 Speaker 1: he did. So I'm it's weird that in the show 902 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: that's what they have seemed to the conclusion they seem 903 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 1: to have reached. The second episode, someone's like, that fucking bike, 904 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: it's it's Steve and he says that fucking bike right, 905 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: all right, Miranda, But I don't think it's clear that 906 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: that is what at it. I don't think so, right, 907 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,320 Speaker 1: But isn't that like why Peloton like had to act 908 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: as if there's a whole forensic analysis or they're like whoa, whoa, whoa, 909 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: what the fun right? Trying to put that on the bike. 910 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: They're like, he could have died fucking carry, you know, 911 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: and you're gonna put this on the Peloton right. Look 912 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: at his lifestyle and he smokes and eats steaks, and uh, 913 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: maybe he has a history of it in his fictional family. Yeah, 914 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: so they're just a writer. Jam looked up some other 915 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: examples of like bad product placement that backfired on these 916 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: massive corporations, so we don't really need to feel bad 917 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 1: for them. But Coke wasn't thrilled that they're They had 918 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: a commercial that appeared in natural Born Killers, which is 919 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: this very like postmodern cutting back and forth between like 920 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: different types of media. And Coke had one of their 921 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: commercials intercut with footage of headless, bloody bodies and natural 922 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 1: born Killers, which is decidedly against the Coke brand manifesto 923 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: as far as that, yeah, right exactly, there can be blood, yeah, 924 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: but the heads have to be attached. Reebok invested one 925 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: point five million dollars in Jerry McGuire only to have 926 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: one the one reference to Reebok in the movie be 927 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,879 Speaker 1: people getting junior shouting fuck Reebok. I think this one 928 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: comes the closest, maybe too being like the Peloton one, 929 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: being like the Peloton one, because like they got it 930 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: in the movie and then they made fun of the 931 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 1: one thing that is like the bad part of Reebok 932 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: that it's like the lesser of the shoe brands. It's 933 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 1: not who you would want to be sponsored by. You 934 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: would want to be sponsored by Nike and so, and 935 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: that is I think the context in which Cuba getting 936 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: junior shouts fuck rebuked, so like that seems like it's 937 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: close to what what we're talking about. Mad Men also 938 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: always like routinely used real companies but then there was 939 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguar incident when they get a Jaguar account it's 940 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: run by a really creepy piece of ship who would 941 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: only give Don Draper his business if the company forced 942 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: one of the characters to have sex with him, and 943 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: then like as it that one also feels like like 944 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: the Peloton thing struck me as like, okay, maybe the 945 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: head writer of the Sex and the City reboot like 946 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: has a personal beef with Peloton, like he had a 947 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 1: bad experience with Peloton and has a vendetta. The Jaguar 948 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: Madman example is also feels like that because not only 949 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: is like the head of jag Jaguar a piece of ship, 950 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: but then like the guy who brings in the business 951 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: ends up killing himself and he tries to do it 952 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,800 Speaker 1: by like putting a hose from the tailpipe of the 953 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 1: Jaguar into his front driver's side window, but the car 954 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: like fails, so that's the only thing that stops him 955 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: from doing that. That's compounding them, yeah exactly. But anyways, Peloton, 956 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: in addition to having one of their medical advisors issue 957 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: a note like talking about how big is a you know, 958 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: unhealthy piece of ship and it wasn't there, it's not 959 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: our bike. He fucking he's an unhealthy fat guy. Then 960 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 1: also they partnered with Ryan Reynolds for some reason. He's 961 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,399 Speaker 1: not in the ad, but the Peloton wife ad that 962 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: he counters, so they partnered with him to whip up 963 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 1: a tongue in cheek commercial featuring chrisnth and Jess King, 964 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: the Peloton instructor from the show, and they they're basically 965 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:46,439 Speaker 1: like in a on a couch together and like saying, oh, 966 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: let's go for a ride soon on the peloton, and 967 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: like it's supposed to be like, uh, the they're actually 968 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: having fun, it ends up feeling like they're in like 969 00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: a creepy like purgatory afterlife and in which you have 970 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:06,919 Speaker 1: to like write a peloton your entire within moments going 971 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: to hell. I like, you know Anna in the chat 972 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: right now saying she suspects that there's this was a setup, 973 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: that they knew what they were doing the whole time, 974 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: that they were maybe in cahoots. That's a little difficult 975 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: given how in the toilet like peloton is. At the 976 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: moment they're like, yeah, that would be cool, and then 977 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: it'll it'll maybe mess up with the brand identity a 978 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: little bit more. It is interesting not to be too 979 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: cynical about it, but before I even heard actual reviews 980 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: of the reboot, when it aired, I saw all like, 981 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: I knew someone's going to die because of a Peloton. 982 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was going to be big. For 983 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: some reason, I assumed it was the Peloton teacher. I 984 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: was confused. But I was seeing all these articles about 985 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: the relationship, you know, about that shocking Peloton death, So 986 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,040 Speaker 1: clearly there was some kind of pr campaign, Like I 987 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: don't think that that was so I think what happened 988 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: for sure, they knew about it before we did, right, 989 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: Peloton knew about it before we did. They got probably 990 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,959 Speaker 1: either had it screened for them or leaked out. And 991 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, they have like corporations have intelligence agencies working 992 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: for them, just the same as governments. So I'm sure 993 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: they were all over it. I doubt that they encouraged 994 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: them to, uh, like do this, because a brands are 995 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 1: like not that smart. They're not that kind of smart, right, 996 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: they always like play it safe. But also they have 997 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 1: been killing people like recently, and it's been a huge 998 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: like hit to their share prices. Pelotons have been killing. Yeah, 999 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: so they had a treadmill that killed a child, and 1000 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: there was a like call to issue a recall on 1001 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: their treadmills, and they you know, pumped the brakes on 1002 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: that they wanted to examine whether that was the right 1003 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: thing to do based on how not profitable it was. 1004 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: Do you know what happened but with the child, No, 1005 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I I think it involved like them 1006 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 1: getting stuck underneath or something. It's really horrifying. Treadmills in 1007 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: general are fucking dangerous and exercise is terrible, you guys, Yeah, 1008 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: but exactly it's the devil, right, ye, satanic panic. So 1009 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: I would say, don't hate Peloton for like killing a 1010 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: fictional character. I hate them for fighting a recall for 1011 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: a product they knew led to the death of a child. 1012 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: And also their stock is like so a lot of 1013 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: people were reporting that the stock was down based on 1014 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 1: this storyline. The stock has been down like overall like 1015 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 1: across the you know, yeah, I didn't know that because 1016 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: I had heard that it went down in relation to 1017 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: this show. So I was like, wow, that actually not 1018 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 1: that I have, you know, not that my heart bleeds 1019 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: for Pelton, but like that does suck for them if 1020 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 1: this caused that, But no, this didn't cause that. It's 1021 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: that and they just they they over forecasted what they thought, 1022 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, how many more sign ups they'd have in 1023 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: one without realizing like what reopening would do for people's 1024 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: exercise habits. Yeah, but I'm just surprised they didn't really 1025 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: put the knife in and carries like getting really specific 1026 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 1: to like slam Pelotons, like, oh my god, big, why 1027 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: did you take a power zones class with Alex Toussaint. 1028 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 1: You know it's too hard for you, and like looking 1029 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 1: directing the camera with those but who knows it was 1030 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: a real Peloton instructor who played the instructor in the show, 1031 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: though they changed they changed the name, but did get 1032 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 1: the actual instructor to Allegra, everyone's favorite anti histamine. They're 1033 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 1: always like, hey, what happened when you shot with the 1034 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: Sex and City? What what went down to anything? How 1035 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: was it with Peloton? Yeah, like that's another example of 1036 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: like how they probably like figured out yeah, nothing, nothing, 1037 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 1: it was really fun. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, the guy died. 1038 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mr Peloton, But I mean I like this 1039 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 1: goes directly towards like what is a risk with Peloton, 1040 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: which is like, you know, you see him doing the 1041 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 1: workout and he's being like coach slash, like you know, 1042 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: yelled at by an instructor who's you know, hundreds of 1043 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: miles away from him, and but like is telling him 1044 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: to like, you know, really step it up. And it's 1045 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: like he's a six year old guy, and like who 1046 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: probably thinks she's attracted. I mean they make jokes about 1047 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: how he thinks she's attractive throughout the show, So it's like, 1048 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, it feels like that's not a great 1049 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 1: like set up for people not to die of heart attacks. 1050 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Like That's what I'm curious about is like how many 1051 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 1: people are dying against any exercise video service, you know, 1052 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: like if you're doing P ninety x or and you know, 1053 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 1: like stuff like that in the past. Like at a 1054 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: certain point you have to know yourself. And if you 1055 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: she sees me, Miles, she sees me. She likes me 1056 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: to play Devil's Advocate with pen and the Ax or 1057 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: you know what is typo is that what it was 1058 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 1: called that um you know that you're watching something taped, 1059 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: whereas with peloton there is the illusion that they that 1060 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: it is two ways and that it's unique, you know, 1061 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 1: the direction is like unique to you, and this is 1062 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 1: his thousand th ride and he's excited that he's going 1063 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: to get a shout out from the instructor who he 1064 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: has a crush on. So they're really just like kind 1065 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: of hone in on the on it. But I'm like, 1066 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: in my mind, like that doesn't seem logical, you know, 1067 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: like to would be like, no, man, these pelots they'll 1068 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: fucking kill you because they try and get you to 1069 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: do more than you can. That's do you have a peloton? 1070 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Why is that relevant? Good question? Because I'm just gonna 1071 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: love Alex too Zones class. I've noticed people who do 1072 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: peloton immediately become converts to it and are like it's 1073 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 1: actually pretty great, Like I kind of love it, and 1074 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 1: so I'm just curious. Yeah, I'm not going to do 1075 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: an ad for them right now based on what we've 1076 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 1: been talking about, but there's they're definitely parts of it 1077 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 1: where I'm surprised for me as such little motivation to exercise, 1078 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 1: that something got my stinking ass to do something more 1079 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 1: than like for a week straight. Yeah, this is what 1080 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: they say. This is what they say. That's what they say, 1081 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: That's how they get you next thing. You know you're 1082 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about my death on this thing. So 1083 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: you do have one comment? If I were to have one, 1084 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 1: I hope Peloton would understand what the value is of 1085 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: my brain, Ambassador SI, particularly tumultuous time at the moment, 1086 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: your chill for the bike. If you did have one, 1087 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 1: how many times would you find yourself using it? Like 1088 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: on a on a weekly basis? How frequently we're time? 1089 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: What four times a week? If I did yeah, if 1090 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: if I did it? Which if I did it? By O. J. Simpson. 1091 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: It's about me owning a ploton. All right, that's gonna 1092 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: do it for this week's weekly Zeite. Guys, please like 1093 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 1: and review the show. If you like the show, uh 1094 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 1: means the world to Miles. He needs your validation. Folks. 1095 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will 1096 01:04:31,640 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. By S.