1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien. Supposedly the ambition of the government is 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: sometime in the next seven to eight years to have 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: self driving cars on the road by overwhelming popularity. Angela 4 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, we're not getting the car I want 5 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: to hold that. I want to be in control. Would 6 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: you trust the self driving car micro mechanism? Thanks you, 7 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: my computer tapes, thank you, and I thank you. Welcome 8 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. 9 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 10 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 11 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: giving you a busy sign, no, take up the phone 12 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: and call in the garage to or there are open. 13 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: But I am here to take their call at eight 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: five five and now he running. Hey, come on in 15 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: so down. I'm running in the Car Doctor at your 16 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: service at eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero, 17 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: here to take your calls and answer your questions. We're 18 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: taking no prisoners today, as the phone lines were already 19 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: backed up and lit up. Just to make you aware. 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: There's more information of this radio show at Car Doctor 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: show dot com. You can find links to tune in 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: my Heart iTunes dot com. You need me during the 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: week Ron at Car Doctor show dot com and I'm 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: all fired up and ready to go. Here a little 25 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: quick welcome. We have a special studio guest. Mom is 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: with us today. Wave Mom. Everybody on radio can see 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: you here. She is everybody, wave aload of Mom. Mom's 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: out watching the show today. She hasn't been here in 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: a while. We thought we'd get her out of her 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: room and let her come down and see radio as 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: it were, as we do the big show. She says, 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, I've heard it all the time she goes, 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: but I've never really seen you do it. So we're 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: showing off her mom today something. Uh. We thought it 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: would be a fun thing to do. We have an 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: interview free hour. Actually, we have an interview free two 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: hours today. We're all about calls today. We're all about 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: answering your car questions. But I really quick wanted to 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: plant this seed and then I'm gonna move on. I 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about obligation. I want 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: to talk about obligation of the repair shop, and I 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: want to talk about obligation of you, the consumer, the 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: vehicle owner, the person that's driving that car, that's making 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: that decision on when and how it should be repaired. 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: Had a couple of weird, well unsettling phone calls at 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: the shop this week. One was a gentleman. He's been 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: listening to the show for five six years. I'm sure 48 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: we'll get this on podcast, maybe longer he's been listening. 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: He had a ninety nine Chevy van with a camp 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: sensor fault that he had an engine replaced, he had 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: some work done to it. Nobody's been able to diagnose it, 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: and it fell into my lap, as can you fix this. 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm going on vacation for three weeks. I'd like you 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: to look at it. As much as I hated to 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: do it, I had to turn it down. Number One, 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: we're backed up until about the middle of September, about 57 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: six weeks out on drive ability right now, before I 58 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: can get my head into anything else because I've got 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: so many other things going on in the shop on 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: a day to day basis. But also the middle of 61 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: August we're gonna take a week off and do nothing, 62 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: so approaching that time period, I tend to kind of 63 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: cool things down a little bit. I don't want to 64 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: get backed up and have any bigger drive ability issues, 65 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: and I've got right now waiting for me than the 66 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: cars I'm into currently, And it seemed to miss him 67 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: for lack of a technical term. And when I asked 68 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: Fast Harry about it, because Harry was the one answering 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: the call, uh, you know, he said he didn't sound happy, 70 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sorry he's not happy. But I 71 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: think the question comes down to, as long as more 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: people swear by me than at me, I'm ahead of 73 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: the curve. But it's also like, why are we still 74 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: at this point in the relationship of not having a 75 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: relationship with a mechanic? And I asked that of everybody. 76 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: If you're twenty years old and you're driving a car, 77 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: I get it. Why you don't have a mechanic. If 78 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: you're twenty five, I'm questioning it. If you're thirty, you're 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: doing something wrong. You're allowing something to exist in your 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: life to prevents you from finding a good mechanic. They're 81 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: out there, You've got to look further. Maybe you're like 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: the gentleman that called the shop with the mercury mystique 83 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon. I want a price on puting an alternator 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: into it. I didn't want to diagnosis just one of 85 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the alternator replaced in it, and I said, oh, you 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: mean the mercury mystique. We have to pull a dry 87 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: axle out in order to get the alternator out, and 88 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: it's a two to three hour job because it's just 89 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: a nightmare. And he was shocked to hear that. But 90 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you the part. Well, gee, now you're 91 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: really enticing me to not want to work on this car, 92 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: because where's my opportunity to make a profit, to make 93 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: some repair money so I can pay the bills and 94 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: keep the lights on and pay for the scan tools 95 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: that I have to use. And he didn't quite understand it. 96 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: And my point is, obligation goes both ways. Relationships go 97 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: both ways. You need to develop one with a mechanic 98 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: if you ever have a hope of getting something fixed 99 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: in the future going forward, because I absolutely guarantee you 100 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: cars are not going to get simpler from this moment on. 101 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: They're gonna get much more difficult. Just something to think about. Hello, 102 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: and welcome Rondenading in the car. Doctor here was always 103 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: at a five zero nine zero not to sound arrogant, 104 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: and I've been accused of being that as well, and 105 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: I look forward to those people, because arrogant means that, 106 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just doing my job. I'm just 107 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: trying to fix cars. And it's not that I'm better 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: than anybody else. I just happened to be the lucky 109 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: guy behind the microphone. But sometimes thinking you're a little 110 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: arrogant and being arrogant helps you fix cars and give 111 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: you a little bit of an ego so that you 112 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: don't give up. Is easy, and that's the name of 113 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: the game. Never give up. Every car can be fixed. 114 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Let's kick the garage doors open. Let's go talk to 115 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Clyde and Lewis and Idaho and we welcome here with 116 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: his nine Volkswagon. Clyde. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 117 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: How can I help? Well, I've got this four cylinder 118 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: with the did you front? You might have heard of it? 119 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did you find did you find Volkswagons? Yeah? 120 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: You need The one thing you need to fix those 121 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: is a digital voltometer because they were a very electronic vehicle, 122 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: even for um. So what's going on with it? Well, look, 123 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: everything was fine until about a month ago and it 124 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: started getting a weird idol And now it starts fine, 125 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: cold and hot, but on a cold start, it'll rive 126 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: up to about and then don't all almost all. Maybe 127 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: it will stall, rev up a couple of more times. 128 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: And now when you're driving around and you take your 129 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: foot off the gas of idols. Other than that, it drives. 130 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: All right, it's got power. But i've what sort of 131 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: tools do you have? Not checked the grounds because about 132 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: a year ago I had to replace the octygen censor 133 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: and I made sure all those grounds were good. Then 134 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: maybe I'll have to do it again. No, well, let's 135 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: let's back up. You have a digital volte dometer. I'm 136 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: sure you do by the sounds of it. Oh yeah, okay, 137 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: So why don't we going to think there's there's there's 138 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: three critical sensors. There's three or four critical things to 139 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: look at when the auto starts acting up on these cars. 140 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: Go to the engine cool in tempt censor. Alright, the 141 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: cool attempt censor when you when you unplug it, when 142 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: it when it's having I've tested it both at hot 143 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: and at cold, and it matches the factory spects it 144 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: owns out correctly. Yes, all right, then let's also remove 145 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 1: the oxygen censor and put the torch test on it. Yeah, 146 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: but all an oxygen center torch test does is heat 147 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: it up. It doesn't tell you what the oxygen content is. Yeah, 148 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: So if if you want to really see what the 149 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: O two censors do, and once you put the d 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: V O M on it and just plug it in 151 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: and go to the signal line and just look and 152 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: see where the voltage is. You can track it with 153 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: the d V O M. You can track it with 154 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: a lap scope. You should be able to get a 155 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: nice true pattern to see what's coming out of the 156 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: two center. Of course, what the computer seeing might be 157 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: a whole another story. And in nine you're gonna need 158 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: some kind of special scan tool to read data stream. 159 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: But they're out there, they're they're older. Now you gotta 160 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: realize how old that car is. I'm sure you do. 161 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: Where I was going to send you to take a 162 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: look is start to look at the voltage at the 163 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor, particularly between pins four and three ones 164 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: brown white ones blue black. That should be that between 165 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: between three and four you should have you should have 166 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: five alts or something close, all right. If you don't, 167 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: then you've got a problem somewhere in the wire leading 168 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: up to the mass air And that was common to 169 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: mass airs. Also, you want to take a look at 170 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: pin two and this is keion engine off. Okay, to 171 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: right engine off. Go to pin two. It's a blue red. 172 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: You should see about a vault and a half. Start 173 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: the engine, the engine at idle. We'll then go from 174 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: about a vault and a half to about one point 175 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: eight two vaults. The vault that should increases, the RPM increases. 176 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: If it starts to climb higher than one point eight 177 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: one point nine vaults, chances are you've got a bad 178 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: mass air flow or a problem in the way the 179 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: s airflow is interpreting air. Maybe you've got an air 180 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: leak ahead of it or behind it. I'm sorry, behind 181 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: it all right. I will check those things, okay, But 182 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: the most the most critical, it still comes back to 183 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: cool attempt censor on those cars. That was the number 184 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: one cause of a erratic IDOL. And I would almost 185 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: encourage you because of the age of the car is 186 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: go find those wiring, those those wires as they lead 187 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: into the PCM and make sure the signal you're getting 188 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: at the sensor are the same that what you're getting 189 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: at the pc M itself. Okay, what I've done, I 190 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: haven't done that and we'll do it. But when it's 191 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: when it settles down and you're driving it and the 192 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: idol is about if you'll unplug the cts at that point, 193 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: it will go down to idle at about a thousand. 194 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: But it's rough as a cob, right, because you're you're 195 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: taking it out of you're you're putting it into what 196 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: we'll i'll call it limp mode at that point. You know, 197 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: that's what we used to do when we wanted to 198 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: set timing on the on the early cars. And you're 199 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: actually you're actually skewing the picture if you will, you're 200 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: you're that's a proper response, but that still doesn't tell 201 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: us if the response it was getting when it was 202 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: plugged in was any good. Yeah, so check the check 203 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: that the cts it's actually wired to the correct pins 204 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: on the on the e c U. Well check that. 205 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: They'll check at the signal coming out of the e 206 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: C T. This signal you see it, the e C 207 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: T should be the same at the PCM itself. How 208 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: do we know there isn't damage to the wiring harness 209 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: somewhere along the way. The car is now almost thirty 210 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: years old, that's right, So just just e c T 211 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: was the most critical input on those cars. Y E 212 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: c T. You a minute ago we called this CTS. 213 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: It's not the same part. Same thing. Yeah, okay, good, 214 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: same thing. So I'll do that. Check the any m 215 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: m F volts and take it from there. Take it 216 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: from there, and then give me a call back and 217 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: let me know. Well. I really appreciate your your information 218 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: and I look forward to fixing this thing. You will. 219 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: It's easy. It's only a car, all right, Clyde, thank 220 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: you very much. All right, brother, you take good careero, 221 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: run any in the car to docurate your service. I'll 222 00:10:41,520 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Bavids clean kind of delights, nights, 223 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: no ally hurnsing and nursing. We know every card by 224 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: hard lights. This is one. Hey, welcome back. We'm meeting 225 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: the car doctor. G I wonder what's next. What's up, Doc? 226 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll find that for next week. But the 227 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: tip of the wrench to my chief engineer, Tom Ray 228 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: and the things that he comes up with to keep 229 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: this show fresh. Thanks Tom. Let's get out and go 230 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: over and talk to Let's go talk to Tom in 231 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and some vacuum leek issues. Tom. Welcome to the 232 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, how can I help? Well, first of all, Ryan, 233 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 1: you've got a great program. Okay, So I've got a 234 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: vacuum link. It's a pretty good one because when I 235 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: shut the engine off, only a matter of seconds before 236 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: I even lose my brake booster vacuum. But here's what 237 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: I've tried to do, And you tell me if this 238 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: makes any sense or maybe I shouldn't be doing it. 239 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: I can't hear anything on there when the engines running. 240 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: So what I've done is I've just opened up a 241 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: vacuum line and leave the engine off and put a 242 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: remote vacuum pump connected through a twenty ft line on there? 243 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: Is that bad? Or can is that worth to try? Well? 244 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: What's that going to accomplish? What are we? What do we? 245 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: We've got a vacuum leak, the engines running rough as 246 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: it said, any check engine light faults as it no 247 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,239 Speaker 1: check engine light, and it actually runs good. That's what's interesting. 248 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: When I'm when I'm going down the highway on the level, 249 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: no problem, but my air conditioning vents drop out when 250 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: the engine tries to accelerate for a slice heal or 251 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, what makes you think this isn't 252 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: a leaking power break booster. Then if you lose the pedal, 253 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: it gets hard immediately when you shut it off. Well, 254 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: it's not immediate, but it's quick, and maybe it is. 255 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: So if that's the case, I don't have the knowledge 256 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: to know how to find that or fix that or 257 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: figure out where it is. Okay, so what's your Let's 258 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: start over a minute, tom. If if we were having 259 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: a drinking in a bar over a couple of adult 260 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: beverages and you said to me, here on my truck 261 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: does your answer would be what's wrong with your truck? 262 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: What is it actually doing? Okay, here's the main thing 263 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: it's doing. It runs fine, starts, spine, does everything good. 264 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: It's just the way I noticed this problem was going 265 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: down the highway, noticing that my air conditioning seems to 266 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: drop out completely, which I assume that's because the vacuum 267 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: actually we're just for the events are are losing their 268 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: priority or something, and so I can sense that it's 269 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: almost like my air conditioning shuts off until I get 270 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: over a little nol. Then it comes on, works fine 271 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: until the engine has to work. So if you didn't 272 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: have the air conditioning on, you would never know there's 273 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: anything wrong with this truck. You know, I may not. 274 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: But also I'm assuming that maybe it's also in all 275 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: the ventilation, but I don't know. I don't know. Okay, 276 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: So let's let's assume dangerous word family radio, that we've 277 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: got a vacuum loss feeding the reservoir system or the 278 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: reserve system for the air conditioning. All right, there's gonna 279 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: be a reason. There's gonna be a red vacuum line 280 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: that leads up to the reserve tank, which will be 281 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: underhood on that particular truck. Take a look over on 282 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: the passenger side, underneath the battery tray. All right, The 283 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: battery on this truck is on the right side, if 284 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I remember, right, if you're yeah, if you're sitting in 285 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: the seat, always as you're sitting in the seat, the 286 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: vacuum tank should be under the battery tray. That's also 287 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: if this is four wheel drive, that will be the 288 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: reserve vacuum tank for the four wheel drive if they're 289 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: vacuum actuated hubs. All right, so everything will be over there. 290 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: What used to happen is if the battery had any 291 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: kind of acid leaks or corrosion, it would drip down 292 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: onto the plastic lines, because where else would you put them. 293 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: You put the plastic underneath the battery. That's why it'll 294 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: it'll rot and fall apart, and it would corrode everything 295 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: and cause all kinds of dysfunctionality. So what I would 296 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: be looking for is coming off the back of the engine, 297 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a hard red plastic vacuum line. On 298 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: a Ford, red was always manifold vacuum that was that 299 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: was the feed coming off the engine, going out to 300 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: feed whatever circuit it was trying to uh, you know, charge. 301 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: So in this case, it's gonna be that that hard 302 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: nylon plastic line feeding the reservoir tank. And then from 303 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: the reservoir tank it'll branch out, possibly in a purple 304 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: or a purple tinted or in an orange striped vacuum 305 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: line that then goes out and feeds the vacuum control 306 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: units under the dash. All right, do you have a 307 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: handheld vacuum gauge something with a needle? Actually I don't, 308 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: but I can come up with one, okay, Because you 309 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: find that red vacuum line and just make sure you've 310 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: got solid vacuum there, and then you're gonna have to 311 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: pull the battery to get to this if you see 312 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: that it's there, and then start doing your testing with 313 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: that vacuum pump to find where it's where it's actually leaking. 314 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: Usually I find a broken nipple or a rotted line. Okay, 315 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: all right, that's where you want to be, all right, 316 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: And then just one quick thing if I can hear 317 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: if I if I do put a vacuum on and 318 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: don't allow it to go to twenty vacuum. If I 319 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: can hear a leak, is that going to steering in 320 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: the direction, or are vacuum relief? If you if you've 321 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: got the dashboard controls in the on position and you 322 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: either hand pump it and that's how you would do it, 323 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: or apply a vacuum pump just to hold vacuum on 324 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: the system. It should hold vacuum, vacuums vacuum. But a 325 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: bad bad blend or actuator, or a bad temp lever, 326 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: a bad vacuum control in the dash all of those 327 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: can lead to and cause a problem in vacuum bleed 328 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: off in this system. All right, Well, that's very helpful. Ron. 329 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: I just love your program. Thank you very much. You're 330 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: very welcome. Sorry, you take good care. Let's roll over. 331 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: Let's get started with Walt and Maui, Hawaii, two thousand two. 332 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Dodge Ram Walter, how are you today? What's going on? 333 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: What's cooking? Okay? I got a trouble code of pace six. 334 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: I have a dash that has for the mindlets should 335 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: it shows no bus. I've got uh an a BS 336 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: and seatbelt ceterer lights staying on and none of the 337 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: instrument gauges are worked. Everything else runs fine. It runs fine, Okay, 338 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: just come on overnight, Walt. It just sort of started 339 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: up on its own. Yes, And what have you done 340 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: to try and diagnose it? Anything? Well? I at first 341 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: I checked to make sure the batteries were both put 342 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: in that I load tested them, and I of course 343 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: voltage sets of them, and I pulled the code, the 344 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: the and uh. From that point I said, no, I'm 345 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: not sure where to go. Yeah. Unfortunately, what you're gonna 346 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: have to do is you're gonna have to get intimate 347 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: with the C C D bus wires UM down at 348 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: the dattal link connector. UM. This might be this might 349 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: be easier if I email you the information. UM, I 350 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: can go over with you here but it's very tedious 351 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: in time consuming. So do this. Send me an email 352 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: Walt Ron at Car Doctor show dot com, and then 353 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: if anybody else needs this information, anybody else out there 354 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: is a very specific issue. This is all about wiring 355 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: it pins three and eleven at the dattal link connector. 356 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: It's a step by step process. I'm glad to send 357 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: it out to you, Walter. I think that would be 358 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: easier for you, but p general results in this, do that, 359 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: I'll take care of it. 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Let's get over and talk to oh Let's 376 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: start at the top there. Let's go to Don in 377 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: South Williamsport, OH five Donali with some questions about an 378 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: air bag. Don Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How 379 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: can I help? Hey, Ron, thank you. We bought an 380 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: OH five Yukondinality that was in the front end collision 381 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: with a deer and um, the airbag was deployed. Yeah, 382 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: you usually losing that situation together, getting night car all 383 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: new parts and stuff right, and the air bag. They 384 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: put a brand new air bag in it, and they 385 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: bought a control module for it, and they told her 386 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: they've never installed it. They told us that this would 387 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: clear the service air bag message that's on the front 388 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: of the screen. And I'm just wondering if there's something 389 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: more to it. But I thought i'd call you because 390 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: your opinion really makes a difference. Well, when when you 391 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: say they, who's they? The body shop? The dealer? Yeah, 392 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: the body shop. They so just backfill me in a 393 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: little bit here. You had the accident, they fixed the car. 394 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: You took the car back the air bag light was 395 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: still on or no, no, no, we picked we picked 396 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: this car up, the truck up. It came out of 397 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: New Jersey and we they bought it, brought it over 398 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: into Pennsylvania and did all the repairs on it in 399 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: p A and uh they put all the new parts 400 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: on we we did a car fact and all the 401 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: title check on it and everything matched up. The vehicle 402 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: seventy miles on them. But they put this air bag 403 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: in it. And I guess when you're in a collision, 404 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: the computer can records a an accident in the system 405 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: and the accident needs to be cleared. I guess this 406 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: is what they're telling modules supposed to do. If to 407 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: my knowledge, no, you know the bag, the bag has 408 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: to be replaced. Sure, the possibly the censors behind the 409 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: front bumper. There are crash centers up there. If they're damaged. 410 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: In a lot of cases they are normally replaced. They 411 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: get replaced. But the electronic module itself generally can be 412 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: reset or reflashed. If there's an update for it, I 413 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: should retract that, not refleshed, but it can be cleared 414 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: and reset if it's just a matter of it having 415 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: stored a code. I'm not aware of mandatory having to 416 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: replace a module. That being said, you know, it's possible 417 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: the module was damaged in the accident, depending upon how 418 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: the accident occurred, And I don't disagree with that. They're 419 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: gonna put a used one in though, no, no, no, 420 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: they gave us one, and it's they gave us the 421 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: wrong part number, so we have to get the right, 422 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: correct one, I guess, or or take RS out of 423 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: the vehicle and send it away to be reprogrammed and 424 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: have the data cleared from it. So what the body 425 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: shop is, what what you're really telling me is the 426 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: body shop doesn't have the ability to do flashing at 427 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: dealer level. From the sounds of it, I guess you're 428 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: right right, that's really what it is. And what a 429 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: scan tool can do, that dealer little scan tool. I 430 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: do it all the time at the shop. That's what's 431 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: kind of got me scratching my head. I'm asking myself, 432 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: what are they trying to sell you here? You know, 433 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: they're they're trying to say they can't go directly into 434 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: the service port and dialed down the into that. I 435 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: was this take the unit out. Who paid for this? 436 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: Don you were the insurance company. My wife bought this vehicle. 437 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: Well but but but who who paid for the repair? Oh? 438 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: The people that owned it prior to us. Okay, you 439 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: know there's a liability factor here, a huge liability factor 440 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: that somebody has released a car with a non working 441 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: air bag system. And in a society where listen, I 442 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: just heard the other day in New York City that 443 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: someone rented a bike, one of the uber bikes in 444 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: New York City, and he didn't wear he didn't wear 445 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: a helmet, He crashed, he got hurt, and now he's 446 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: suing New York City for sixty million dollars, as ridiculous 447 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: as that is, because he didn't want to wear a helmet. 448 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: There he's saying it's their full. So in a society 449 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: that's that litigious, I'm amazed that a body shop would 450 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: release a vehicle with an air bag light on, not 451 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 1: you know, not making you sign forty seven documents with 452 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: circles and arrows telling you what's going on and how 453 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: you can't through this and you're in danger because understand, 454 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: if you're getting to another accident and that airbag lights on, 455 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: which I'm believing it is from your description the airbag. 456 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: The air bag system doesn't work. You're you're you're you're 457 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: in a dangerous vehicle at that point, and and and 458 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: and understand this too. The way modern vehicles are designed. 459 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: Modern vehicles are designed to work with air bags and 460 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: seat belts based on the way the crush zones or 461 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: the crash zones are designed on board at the computer. 462 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: You know what you ever see a Nascar car, the 463 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: way it gets the nose torn off it it breaks away. 464 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: Modern cars are designed to do the same thing, with 465 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: the idea that the air bag systems themselves are gonna 466 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: work and keep you safe. So I would get this, 467 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: I would get this to a dealer. I would explain 468 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: to them what you're explaining to me, and I would 469 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: get the right module, whatever it takes, and I wouldn't 470 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: drive the vehicle until it's repaired. And it sounds like 471 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: it might just be the original module and the lights 472 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: still on. Then they may be able to flat showing 473 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: me that it collects data from a crash and that's 474 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: why it's throwing that code. Oh, so it might happen 475 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: it well, then it might have an internal memory failure 476 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: fault code. That's telling us that. But listen, let's do 477 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: it like this. Go spend, Go spend a hundred and 478 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: twenty bucks, have a dealership diagnosis, get some diagnosis here, 479 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: because it sounds like these guys are throwing darts at 480 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: the wall. I'd rather have you say, all right, I'd 481 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: rather have let's let's spend some money and uh, you know, 482 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: money well spent. Listen, I spent a hundred forty eight 483 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: dollars and have the guys come out and tell me 484 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: why my roof was leaking. And it had nothing to 485 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: do with anything that I expected it to be. But 486 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: at least I got the answer. So it's it's it's 487 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: it's money well spent in clear conscience. All right, sir, 488 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: if you need any more help. If you need any 489 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: more help, shoot me an email Ron at Car Doctor 490 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: Show dot com eight five five zero nine zero. We're 491 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: coming back right after this. It's not gonna please you. 492 00:25:49,920 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: See there, it took me, Davy man and then down 493 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: around get around. I get around. I got around to 494 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: the car doctor here at eight five five five six 495 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Let's get back to the busy phones. 496 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: Bruce and manitou Springs. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 497 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: How can I help Bruce? Are you there? H we 498 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: lost one? Okay, let's jump right on, let's keep going. 499 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: Let's go to Dan Appleton, Wisconsin. Dan. Welcome to the 500 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. How can I help Grong? I got 501 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: ato GMC four hundred and fifteen fellows on right. And 502 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: the headlights. I'm just saying, since day one, I always 503 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: been fairly dim. I'm wonder if there's anything I can 504 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: do well dim in that they I'm gonna, I'm gonna, 505 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask some dumb questions even though we know 506 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: there aren't any. Are they You've only since new I 507 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: bought one? Okay, So when you say dim that they're 508 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: just I mean the lenses are clear, it's not it's 509 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: not h this is this is a glass this is 510 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: a glass light in. Yeah. This is the first year 511 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: of plastic right, correct, right, Yeah, this is the first 512 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: year of plastic lamps. The lenses aren't this colored or 513 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: faded or anything like that. Nope? Okay, um, cleaning them 514 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: several times, Okay. And then when you say dim, are 515 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: they dim or do you just think they're standard headlights? 516 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: And it's just a matter of you know, trying to 517 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: decide is this an electrical issue which is hard to 518 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: convey on radio, or is this something uh, you know 519 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: where Maybe it's just time for a headlight bulb upgrade. 520 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: I changed them one time, but I don't remember the 521 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: time I put in there. I've cleaned every growing I 522 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: could find on this truck. I think maybe it was 523 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: a growing problem. Right. Well, if you want to if 524 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: you want to see if it's a ground problem, one 525 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: of the easiest things to do is, you know, if 526 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: you take that headlight out of its socket and you know, 527 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: just kind of hold it in your hand, turn the 528 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: headlight on, look at it. How bright is it? All right? 529 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Plug a new one in, How bright is it? It 530 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: might just be that that's that's as bright as it's 531 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: gonna get. Now, if you haven't, if you have any 532 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: kind of way to measure amperage um, not to be 533 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: too technical, but a typical headlight will pull five to 534 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: seven amps, and you can see what sort of current 535 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: it's flowing, and if it's if it's flowing something other 536 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: than that, then maybe we'll go and talk about grounds, 537 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: or maybe provide an alternate ground. Provide an alternate ground 538 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: right to the battery. Does it change the way the 539 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: brightness of the lights? Chances are it won't. I've got 540 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: a feeling you're dealing with ninety two headlights and you're 541 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: getting used to seeing everybody else on the road blinding 542 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: you that you know, you know, what do you do now? 543 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: And and that wouldn't be totally uncommon back about a 544 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: million years ago in another life, when we used to 545 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: aim headlights inside the hoppy headlight aiming kit, we actually 546 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: and I still have mine, We actually have a candle 547 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: power device where we can hold it up to the 548 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: headlight and measure the candle power coming out of the lights, 549 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: and it will show you just how bright it is, 550 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: kind of like what a photographer would have. And you know, 551 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: three to five thousand, seven to eight thousand, that kind 552 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: of a thing. And you can, if you can find 553 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: a repair shop that actually has that, you can see 554 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: what the candle power rating is on those lights and 555 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: then make a decision from there. If I were going 556 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: to upgrade them, I wouldn't go for the top of 557 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: the line, because I find that the top of the 558 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: line bulbs, while they're really bright, tend to burn out. 559 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: They have a shorter lifespan. So what I tend to 560 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: do is I like the Sylvanias. I think the Sylvania 561 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: blue bulbs. I don't remember exactly. It's not their top 562 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: of the line, it's like their middle grade of bulb. 563 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: I've tried those and I've gotten better results. Or you 564 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: might look around and see if there's any l E 565 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: ed kits. The problem with the led kits is you 566 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: really they involve modules and wiring and connectors, and you know, 567 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm very selective on what I will start to incorporate 568 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: in because I don't want to make it a bigger 569 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: problem than it over he is, hm, So I can 570 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: drive down the road at night with this singing, leave 571 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: the light sounding right and over the over flash street. Huh, 572 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: Now maybe you've got a problem. Let me ask you this. 573 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: Do they change from high beam to low being you 574 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: can see a difference in the brightness, yes, okay, Then 575 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: I would start looking at I would look at current 576 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: see if are you really flowing five to seven. I 577 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: would take a look in comparison to a different bulb, 578 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: and I would consider upgrading to a brighter bulb and 579 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: go from there. But you know, basically ninety two it's 580 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: amazing how much better headlights have gotten in the past 581 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: twentysomething years. So I appreciate the thoughts. Dan, let me 582 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: know how you make out. Let's go and talk to Michael. 583 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: Some comments about Tesla. Michael, Ron and Ny and the 584 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: car doctor, Sir, how can I help? Yeah, I don't 585 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: really like them. I keep I hear that they keep 586 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: catching fires. So, but your guy, I forgot his name, 587 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: he said, you seem to like them Tesla. I think 588 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: Tesla's got some good points. I think Tesla is trying 589 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: to create the future. I think Tesla is trying to 590 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: make it. And I personally think that what Tesla is 591 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: doing and a lot of the electric vehicle companies are doing, um, 592 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: I think that they are. I think they're tied to 593 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: the Space program. I really do. I think I think 594 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: that what you're seeing is the development of cars that 595 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: will run around on Mars and other planets. I just 596 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: think we're just a hundred years before that happens. You know, 597 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 1: some of the Tesla's have caught fire, they have had 598 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: their failures, But I think in the grand scheme of things, 599 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: that the percentage of failures Tesla has is two on 600 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: a scale of one. To a hundred and yeah, I 601 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: think I think Tesla as look at listen, they're they're 602 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: recreating how we view the automobile, and I think they've 603 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: got to have their do. I don't know that they 604 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: have their place. I don't know that they're going to 605 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: be totally accepted by society. But you know, I've always said, Michael, 606 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: cars are a lifestyle and I can prove it even 607 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: in the even in the face of four and five 608 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: dollar a gallon gasoline, back when the government had us 609 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: convinced that it had to be that expensive, you know 610 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: what people were. People were still buying V eight suburbans 611 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: and trucks and have two fifties and people like their 612 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: big cars. And that's that's the issue. Uh, you know, 613 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: it's it's you're not gonna change things. You got to 614 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: change society. And that's what Tesla is trying to do. Yeah, 615 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: I have a question for your real quick Okay, what 616 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: did you think about at seventy five or older lo 617 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: par with the V three for four barrel hype. I 618 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: think they were great cars. And you know what, I 619 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: think if you can find one today, I think you 620 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: found something that's really kind of neat. There weren't that 621 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: many around I'm thinking about. I think they kind of 622 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: got smogged out early. I think by seventy three most 623 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: of the three forties were gone. They went to become 624 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: three sixties. But um, you know what, I think they 625 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: were a neat car in terms of their comparison to 626 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: Camaros and Mustangs of the time, and listen, muscle cars. 627 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: I can talk about those for a lot more than 628 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: the two hours I get today. Michael, I appreciate the call, 629 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: and uh, you keep on listening. We appreciate you being there. 630 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: Zero zero brought in nading the car doctor back right 631 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: after this. Right now, he's probably a little dancing with 632 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: the beach blonde champ and he's probably getting welcome back. 633 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Weren't any of the car doctor as we rolled forward 634 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: this hour? Let's cover Richard, Chelsea May and Richard. Welcome 635 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: to the car Docice or how can I help? Thanks 636 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: for taking my call? Welcome. What's going on? Well? I 637 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: have a two thousand sixteen Chevy Colorado and the hood bounces, 638 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: and I've been back to the dealer. They adjusted the 639 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: rubber bumpers in the front. That didn't help, so they 640 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: filled the back brace with our TV. That didn't help. 641 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: Then they filled all the braces with our TV. That 642 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: didn't do anything. So they told me they bought me 643 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: a new Hood, and the next day I get a 644 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: call from him said they spoke with GM and they 645 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: said that a new Hood wouldn't help. That that was 646 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: just out of the vehicle. It was the nature of 647 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: the beast. That was the way it worked. It might 648 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: be so then my question would be, can you drive another? 649 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: If you drive another, does it do the same thing? Right? 650 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: And I haven't, okay, And that's the next step. Now. 651 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: The reason I took your call, and the reason I 652 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: pushed Harry to get your call up is because I 653 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: also wanted to throw my hat in the ring and 654 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: make mention that there is a campaign now for this 655 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: particular vehicle four of all things, the hood striker, the 656 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: the latch mechanism. Have they talked to you about that 657 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: where corrodes and and and could fail at some point? 658 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: Not that I think it's anywhere near that at this 659 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: stage of the game, but um, I just kind of 660 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that the hood striker, which obviously 661 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: is what holds the hood down, could fail. And you've 662 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: got an issue with the hood I just want to 663 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: make sure the two aren't somehow connected. Right now, they've 664 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: never mentioned that. Asked him about asked him about campaign. 665 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: I'll give you the number. It's campaign fifteen one one 666 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: six Hood Striker Corrosion, all right, and the program is 667 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: gonna run through the end of December. But ask him 668 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: about that and just say, hey, does any of that 669 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: have anything to do with this? And if not, driving 670 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: another sixteen and see what that does. I always like 671 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: to do that as a comparison or a brand new 672 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: vehicle when they tell me here, that's the nature of 673 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: the beast, and sometimes it is and um, that sort 674 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: of leads to the diagnostic conclusion of yeah, it is 675 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: what it is. So I wish you the best of luck, Richard, 676 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: and I think you for being part of the car 677 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: doctor family. I wanted any in the card docker. The 678 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you