Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia.
Speaker 2: Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler.
Speaker 3: This is a very special episode of Dirty Rush. We
Speaker 3: are on a top secret sorority girl and one fraternity
Speaker 3: boy retreat. I will not even say where we are,
Speaker 3: but what we want you all to know is that
Speaker 3: it's work week and a lot of people are probably
Speaker 3: saying to themselves, the hell is work week? A sorority girl,
Speaker 3: especially this younger era of sorority girls, really knows what
Speaker 3: work week is. I think in I am fifty, so
Speaker 3: in my era, I don't know that we actually called
Speaker 3: it work week, but we called it pre rush. So
Speaker 3: we want to let everybody listening in on the secrets
Speaker 3: of work week. So we begin with Catherine, who is
Speaker 3: a current Kapa Kapa gamma at a school we will
Speaker 3: not name.
Speaker 4: Uh, Catherine, what year are you?
Speaker 5: I'm going to be a senior, So let me ask
Speaker 5: you this first.
Speaker 3: Do seniors get to do less work during rush than
Speaker 3: sophomores and juniors?
Speaker 5: We do less during work week?
Speaker 6: We do the same amount as Rush just because we've
Speaker 6: already done it in the past.
Speaker 5: We've learned everything. We kind of the gist.
Speaker 6: We'll go into work week the last day just to
Speaker 6: like get our groove.
Speaker 5: With the younger people.
Speaker 6: Make sure that like we can like memory, like re
Speaker 6: memorize everything, because it's like it's like riding a bike,
Speaker 6: like you learn the songs once, like you get it
Speaker 6: again after doing it with the group.
Speaker 5: But Rush you are there for the entire part of it.
Speaker 3: So for people listening, work week is happening right now
Speaker 3: all over the country, and at some schools work week
Speaker 3: is actually two weeks. I was astounded to learn that
Speaker 3: at your school, is it work week?
Speaker 4: Is it how long? It's taking a.
Speaker 6: Week and half like counting weekends and like a couple
Speaker 6: like two days before rush as well, So it's probably
Speaker 6: it's around like nine days for us.
Speaker 3: So can you give us an overview of for you,
Speaker 3: what work week is? What is happening during work week?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we A lot of it revolves around learning bump groups.
Speaker 6: Bump groups change each round of Rush. It can change
Speaker 6: depending on how many people are in each party. I
Speaker 6: mean some days you're having twelve parties in just sisterhood day,
Speaker 6: and there's a certain amount of number of girls, and
Speaker 6: like you're figuring that out day of five minutes before
Speaker 6: you're opening those doors and having these p and ms
Speaker 6: come in. So a lot of it is you're matching
Speaker 6: girls in your bump group.
Speaker 3: You're literally like you don't start to interrupting, but you
Speaker 3: don't do the same bump group for the whole week. No,
Speaker 3: what is the strategy behind changing the bump group?
Speaker 5: We our first two days we do randoms.
Speaker 6: So when we have the p and ms in front
Speaker 6: of the door, you grab the first girl that you see,
Speaker 6: Like we teach everyone, like the first person you lock
Speaker 6: guys with, you were grabbing them and you were walking
Speaker 6: with them.
Speaker 4: Are you also.
Speaker 3: Taught that that girl is the shiniest star you've ever
Speaker 3: met in your life?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Absolutely, you are. You better know their name.
Speaker 6: And you better know where they're from, their hometown, asking
Speaker 6: them questions because those things also then you need to
Speaker 6: remember it going to vote for them right after, because
Speaker 6: you're gonna talk to like three girls in one party,
Speaker 6: and if you don't remember their name, you don't remember
Speaker 6: like the facts about them, You're gonna go after they
Speaker 6: leave and have to go vote on them and be like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, like who was this girl? I'm trying
Speaker 6: to remember her. I'm trying to remember her face. It's
Speaker 6: like you need to like lock those things then for
Speaker 6: sure as a.
Speaker 3: Bump group whole. Or do you vote individually and do
Speaker 3: you vote on an app?
Speaker 5: We vote on an app.
Speaker 6: We you go into a private room with your bump group.
Speaker 6: Our bump groups are normally around three girls. Max, You're
Speaker 6: really not supposed to talk to your people about it
Speaker 6: if you need to ask a question of like, hey, like,
Speaker 6: I'm really feeling kind of conflicted right now because like
Speaker 6: I liked this girl, but like I don't know like
Speaker 6: how well she would fit in the or like I
Speaker 6: don't know if she seems like she really cares or
Speaker 6: like values like our chapter, et cetera. So like you
Speaker 6: can ask for like advice, like you really should not
Speaker 6: like be trying to And.
Speaker 3: Two quick questions, can somebody that knows that girl previously
Speaker 3: vote on her?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: And also do you have I don't know what we
Speaker 3: call them, maybe roamers, Like they're not in a bump group,
Speaker 3: but they're roaming and they can go up and talk
Speaker 3: to anyone they want during a party and then go
Speaker 3: vote on that girl.
Speaker 6: No, we cannot do that. You like absolutely. The only
Speaker 6: time that you can do that is PREF. And what
Speaker 6: we do is if you know the girl as like
Speaker 6: you went to high school with her or you were
Speaker 6: I don't know, some type of like hometown person to her,
Speaker 6: you can go into their like the room that she's
Speaker 6: talking to someone in and like walk in and be
Speaker 6: like hi, Like we do this thing where for PREF
Speaker 6: we read like letters, like we read like letters from
Speaker 6: like your like their parents, and like we surprise them
Speaker 6: with them. So like sometimes like we'll have like the
Speaker 6: person that they know like homeship come in and be
Speaker 6: like hey, like I wanted to come in and like
Speaker 6: like read these letters to you.
Speaker 5: And then's supposed to do this like whole floaterer buying.
Speaker 3: So a floater could go during the party and talk
Speaker 3: to anyone they want and then go vote on the person.
Speaker 6: If a floater for us, you can only vote on
Speaker 6: them if you had a conversation with them. If you
Speaker 6: did not have a conversation with them, you cannot vote
Speaker 6: on them.
Speaker 3: Interesting, all right, So for everybody again, sum up what
Speaker 3: is happening during work week? What is possibly being done
Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day for more than a week
Speaker 3: to prepare.
Speaker 6: For Rush overall grand things, your songs, memorizing them, doing
Speaker 6: them with one hundred and twenty girls.
Speaker 4: You sing a little of one of your songs. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I could let.
Speaker 6: Me think Kaya Pfea take it twice an Ada Ga
Speaker 6: Mma Kapa Kappa Gamma. Yeah, and we do that. That's
Speaker 6: like our day one song. And you do that for
Speaker 6: maybe ten minutes while all the girls are coming into
Speaker 6: the house.
Speaker 5: And then once everyone's say.
Speaker 4: Open while you're singing or do you have to wait
Speaker 4: till it's closed.
Speaker 5: Once the door closes, that's when we stop singing.
Speaker 4: That's like that you're now allowed to sing when they
Speaker 4: come in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they'll be coming in, everyone's singing, and then
Speaker 6: once that door closes, that's like the queue for everyone
Speaker 6: to stop singing. It has to like travel down throughout
Speaker 6: the house for everyone to know like done.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we'll get I mean, obviously, welcome to season
Speaker 3: two of Dirty Rush. This is you know, great stuff.
Speaker 3: We're going to bring this all to you live from
Speaker 3: all over the country at Sorority Rush everywhere. But right
Speaker 3: now we're focusing on work week. So again, tell me
Speaker 3: the most probably the top five things other than a
Speaker 3: bump group that happened, So bump group song. Give me
Speaker 3: three more things.
Speaker 6: The things that you need to ask them and how
Speaker 6: to respond to questions of like day for example, they
Speaker 6: prepare you of like you might have a girl that's
Speaker 6: going to come in and say, like I want to
Speaker 6: be in a sorority, to go to frat day parties
Speaker 6: and meet a frat guy and have him be my boyfriend,
Speaker 6: which is exactly.
Speaker 4: What ninety nine percent of every girl wants.
Speaker 6: And so we'll do like practice conversations, like literally like
Speaker 6: our like president and vice president will walk around and
Speaker 6: make sure that we're like actually practicing this, and like
Speaker 6: we'll like literally practice I use this question.
Speaker 3: Say if someone says I want to be in this
Speaker 3: house because you party with the cutest fraternity boys.
Speaker 6: You have to just really divert and be like, well,
Speaker 6: so being in Greek life obviously, like we have a
Speaker 6: lot of great fraternities. They're very very You have to
Speaker 6: be so careful about not saying rats.
Speaker 5: You cannot say frat names.
Speaker 6: It has to be a fraternity or a sorority or
Speaker 6: just overall cross life.
Speaker 4: Okay, we are.
Speaker 5: Greek life is a community.
Speaker 6: You're gonna get to know so many other people, and
Speaker 6: it's really a school inside of a school, and luckily,
Speaker 6: like we're able to do so many fun events with
Speaker 6: and it can all be real.
Speaker 3: So there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven of
Speaker 3: us here, all in a sorority and one fraternity.
Speaker 5: Do you ever.
Speaker 3: Feel like and again we're gonna get back to work week,
Speaker 3: that you're lying during rush? I mean yeah, like that
Speaker 3: just seems like a lie. Like if somebody actually said
Speaker 3: to me, Hey, I want to be in this sorority
Speaker 3: because you hang out with really fun boys and I
Speaker 3: hope one of them is gonna be my boyfriend and
Speaker 3: just make my college experience great.
Speaker 4: That is actually true.
Speaker 6: We have this thing, and it's like a very like
Speaker 6: common known thing I think amongst people who've done rush.
Speaker 6: Now to where the very every single day until pref
Speaker 6: PREF is the day to where you can like let
Speaker 6: loose and like you actually talk about.
Speaker 5: Like drinking and dating and partying.
Speaker 4: So we lie to you. We lied to you.
Speaker 6: We lie to you, like that's like the rules of
Speaker 6: like you don't talk about like the.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're handing them my phone to M. We're
Speaker 3: gonna call her M who we love, hold on who
Speaker 3: went to a different school, and what sorority were you
Speaker 3: at this unnamed school?
Speaker 7: I was in Alpha Fie Alpha Fee.
Speaker 4: Okay, these are top houses these girls are in.
Speaker 7: Okay to you and then you get haste.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, well let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're getting distracted here at our sorority retreat.
Speaker 4: We're on, but we're gonna go back to work week.
Speaker 3: But give the microphone to em for a second there,
Speaker 3: so EM, do you hayes because I was in a.
Speaker 4: Sorority and we do not hayes.
Speaker 3: We hayze interesting And would you say, uh, that's at
Speaker 3: your school, this particular unnamed school, Alpha Fee or do
Speaker 3: you feel that that could be the case.
Speaker 4: Of Alpha FI in general?
Speaker 7: I feel like it's definitely a mix of both.
Speaker 8: I feel like a lot of schools try to make
Speaker 8: it like an undercover thing, but they must definitely do it.
Speaker 8: And the girls depending who you get preffed by, and
Speaker 8: the girls who's like gonna be your big or like
Speaker 8: you connected with during work week and rush they you
Speaker 8: got with them, at least we did. We went out
Speaker 8: with them on the first night after you got your bid,
Speaker 8: and they would.
Speaker 5: We'd go out and do whatever and.
Speaker 9: Go to frash.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, this is gonna be a whole other episode
Speaker 3: because right now we're gonna focus back on work week.
Speaker 3: But this sorority retre we're on is gonna bring you
Speaker 3: a lot of top secret information. And the reason we
Speaker 3: don't use real names, and the reason we don't say
Speaker 3: schools is because we want to be able to bring
Speaker 3: you the real truth. So back to work week. So
Speaker 3: bump groups, songs, how to answer really lie? How lie
Speaker 3: when someone asked you a question?
Speaker 4: Got it? And what are two more things that happened
Speaker 4: during work week?
Speaker 5: Your social videos? Okay, with all the other houses too.
Speaker 4: From my era?
Speaker 3: Also, I can unequivocally say there was no hazing at
Speaker 3: all zero in my era. But we'll go that'll be
Speaker 3: a different episode. So these social videos, So what is
Speaker 3: the point of them? What do you feel as the
Speaker 3: point of these?
Speaker 6: I think the main point is honestly for the p
Speaker 6: and ms to see the like overall the vibes of
Speaker 6: the houses, but then also be able to tell like
Speaker 6: this looks like it would be the top house, Like
Speaker 6: this looks stizing advertising is like the this is like
Speaker 6: all the really pretty girls with really cute style and
Speaker 6: like they look fun and like energetic and like they
Speaker 6: like I think it's like a way for you to
Speaker 6: like be able to try to compete with all the
Speaker 6: other houses of like we're the coolest house, Like we're
Speaker 6: the best house, and like so the p and ms
Speaker 6: know when they're going in, like we want them to
Speaker 6: be like out in front of our door being like
Speaker 6: oh my god, I'm at Kappa right now, like like nervous,
Speaker 6: but like a good nervous, like I want this house.
Speaker 3: It is the social media that does that or reputation
Speaker 3: through the years.
Speaker 6: I think mainly social media, because unless they know someone
Speaker 6: that goes to that school, they're not really gonna have
Speaker 6: a full answer as to like what the top houses
Speaker 6: are at least I know, like when I was coming
Speaker 6: into my school, like I was able to solidly like
Speaker 6: look at each school's Instagram and kind of be like
Speaker 6: I see this vibe, like I see this house, like
Speaker 6: I see that house, and like you can kind of
Speaker 6: see like where you would want to probably fit in
Speaker 6: and yeah, So.
Speaker 3: How much time is put into all that hoopla that
Speaker 3: is happening in those videos which I also just realized
Speaker 3: it's really only the front girls actually doing the dances.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that until I really zoomed in. I
Speaker 3: thought the whole house was doing these dances, and then
Speaker 3: I realized, like the majority of the girls are just
Speaker 3: doing waving in the background, and then this handful of
Speaker 3: like eight ten girls is actually performing.
Speaker 4: How much time do those things take?
Speaker 6: It takes a few tries, Like it definitely like you're
Speaker 6: out there for probably like an hour, like in the sun,
Speaker 6: like in your guys's costumes, and when doing these dances,
Speaker 6: cracking those things.
Speaker 4: I'm coming over.
Speaker 3: We got people we at this retreat we're at. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of sority girls and they are ready to
Speaker 3: raise their hands.
Speaker 4: We're coming in to you.
Speaker 6: But a lot of them for us, we choose all
Speaker 6: the girls who are on the dance team have been
Speaker 6: on the dance team, and like our social media chair,
Speaker 6: like she will have the tiktoks that we're gonna do
Speaker 6: the night before, She'll send them to the girls who
Speaker 6: are like our dance girls, Hey, learn this choreo tonight
Speaker 6: and like Uriah, yeah, all the linga, this is how
Speaker 6: it's gonna be, and have it ready to go by them.
Speaker 3: All that would be the social media chair as opposed
Speaker 3: to the rush chair. Does the rush chair have any
Speaker 3: say approval over it?
Speaker 6: Honestly no, I think they're so word with so much
Speaker 6: other stuff that they're like I don't care about, like
Speaker 6: the social media crop.
Speaker 4: And is rush chair what do you guys call that?
Speaker 4: We call it rush chair? Okay?
Speaker 5: Is that recruitment chair?
Speaker 3: Recruitment chair? Is that a coveted office? What did you
Speaker 3: do you guys we called office? What do you guys
Speaker 3: call it leaders leadership?
Speaker 5: We call it leadership?
Speaker 3: Is that something that is a coveted position? Or is
Speaker 3: that known as like that job as hell?
Speaker 5: It's kind of known as like that job as hell?
Speaker 6: And like you are gonna it's like you're committing your
Speaker 6: whole summer to it, pretty much like you're once you're
Speaker 6: done after mid day, like your job is pretty much done,
Speaker 6: but like your summer is literally dedicated to planning.
Speaker 4: So does the rush chair prepare that plan the outfits?
Speaker 6: They plan the outfits, they plan the hours like they're
Speaker 6: the ones to like do the timing for everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And is that are these outfits?
Speaker 3: So do you get like a note during summer like
Speaker 3: please bring one black, this one white, this one pink this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's very like your first two days, everyone's
Speaker 6: handed shirts. Then we have to do floral, and then
Speaker 6: the next floral we do floral dresses.
Speaker 5: Everyone.
Speaker 6: Everyone has to wear a certain type of floral dress.
Speaker 6: The next day we have to wear a specific blue
Speaker 6: shade dress for philanthropy.
Speaker 3: Okay, quick question, now, is it like if you don't
Speaker 3: have love shack fancy poo poo on you, or is
Speaker 3: it like hey, got this at home goods.
Speaker 4: I mean not home goods, sorry, TJ Max, I'm good.
Speaker 6: It's more so just like don't be wearing a kind
Speaker 6: of more like skimpy dress, like okay, look like like
Speaker 6: they're more so like we want to look classy.
Speaker 4: Like we're not here to like find you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like yes, like we want to look like we're
Speaker 6: speaking ell again, got it?
Speaker 4: Got it? Got it? Great?
Speaker 3: So nobody's too brand name me labely conscious. It's just
Speaker 3: like fit the theme.
Speaker 6: It's fit the theme and like look like you know,
Speaker 6: you could go to like lunch with your grandma on
Speaker 6: this dress. Like we don't want to be looking like
Speaker 6: we're gonna go out to the.
Speaker 3: It's the in your opinion sort of thought process behind
Speaker 3: that that it's just classier for the rushies.
Speaker 6: I think, like at least with my house, like we've
Speaker 6: definitely there's definitely stereotypes and like negative things that go
Speaker 6: around top houses when you go through recruitment of like
Speaker 6: they like our house is very much like they only
Speaker 6: take in blondes or like all their girls are just
Speaker 6: like dumb and like partiers or whatever. So it's like
Speaker 6: you more so like want to like go into rush
Speaker 6: of Like no, like we have our shit together, like
Speaker 6: I promise, like we're not like a mess or anything
Speaker 6: like that. So it's more just to like keep a
Speaker 6: good reputation going because like if you're a top house
Speaker 6: like on like your yik yak and whatever, like you're
Speaker 6: gonna get like slander and hate for a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, so I yik yak I've heard of
Speaker 3: that was not around in my day. Let's pass the
Speaker 3: microphone to M. Now, M, you went to.
Speaker 4: A school.
Speaker 3: Maybe, I'll say on the West coast. You're not a
Speaker 3: Southern school, You're not a Texas school. So what does
Speaker 3: work week mean to you? And how long was work week?
Speaker 7: Work week was kind of like a dedicated week.
Speaker 8: It was a week for us just one week, and
Speaker 8: it was dedicated for us where we could not go out,
Speaker 8: could not drink.
Speaker 7: It was like super locked in.
Speaker 3: So does that mean like you have every meal in
Speaker 3: the house, like can you walk down to yogurt park
Speaker 3: or so for.
Speaker 8: Us we could only eat in on Mondays on Monday
Speaker 8: night dinner after a chapter house. Yes, so you're allowed
Speaker 8: to leave the house. And I didn't ever live in
Speaker 8: the Chopter house.
Speaker 9: So during week.
Speaker 8: Work week, and our houses are so small they couldn't
Speaker 8: even house all of us.
Speaker 3: So is are you going over to the sorority to practice?
Speaker 3: Is it similar to what Catherine was talking about at
Speaker 3: all with all all her priorities.
Speaker 7: No kind of yes and no, oh wait, give them
Speaker 7: mic back.
Speaker 6: Work week is like your week to go out and
Speaker 6: like party. It's like, oh that's not dry. Rush is dry.
Speaker 6: But so like since rush is dry, they're very much like,
Speaker 6: so this is your time to go out and have fun.
Speaker 3: When when work day is done, then it's at nine
Speaker 3: o'clock or whatever it is, then it's on and you're
Speaker 3: heading down the hill.
Speaker 6: Literally, girls are like looking at it like to the
Speaker 6: hour of like once twelve o'clock hits, like you're dry
Speaker 6: and then the moment after mid day immediately go out.
Speaker 3: Okay, now back to you, M what would happen if
Speaker 3: somebody did not show up for work week.
Speaker 8: I did not show up for work week and I
Speaker 8: did not get punished.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, and why did you not show up?
Speaker 8: I just knew how horrible it was my big how
Speaker 8: horrible was but my first year, I was actually out
Speaker 8: of town did not go to work week, and then
Speaker 8: after that I was like, Okay, I heard all this
Speaker 8: horrible things after my bid group like went and my
Speaker 8: piano like year went, and they're like, it's so horrible
Speaker 8: to not go. So I was on vacation actually the
Speaker 8: last week.
Speaker 3: Question not sorry to do so when they describe it
Speaker 3: as horrible, why why do you think work week has
Speaker 3: this reputation of being horrible.
Speaker 8: It's kind of just like a dedicated week where you
Speaker 8: put in like so much effort and so much time
Speaker 8: for p and ms. Yes, and like the outcome as
Speaker 8: you can find like a great little but at the
Speaker 8: same time it's like cool, like we're just dying to
Speaker 8: go out.
Speaker 4: WHOA, Okay, I didn't follow any of that. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna lie. I just totally did not follow that give
Speaker 4: it to me again. So is it the work of
Speaker 4: work week?
Speaker 8: Or yeah, see the dresses you have to buy, the
Speaker 8: punishments that you get if you don't show up.
Speaker 4: If you can't go back, get a punishment.
Speaker 8: Well like once you're in it, Like I mean, all right,
Speaker 8: and it's just like a lot of work, Like people
Speaker 8: dread having to buy the dresses, going standing in the sun,
Speaker 8: learning the dances, posting on social media, having alpha fy.
Speaker 7: In your bio, not talking to the p and ms
Speaker 7: like it was.
Speaker 4: Just I have to laugh because honestly, it doesn't sound
Speaker 4: hard at all. It really doesn't. So all you.
Speaker 3: Delicate flowers out there when you actually have to go
Speaker 3: to work are gonna be.
Speaker 6: In nice hour days of like not our days longer
Speaker 6: and longer like guys the real world days sometimes.
Speaker 3: But give it back to m m uh. Did you
Speaker 3: participate in rush? And I guess my question is if
Speaker 3: you don't participate in work week, are you like totally
Speaker 3: not aware of how to do rush?
Speaker 4: Are you screwed? Essentially? If you don't do work week
Speaker 4: and then you show up for Rush.
Speaker 7: I didn't show up for Rush either, I just like
Speaker 7: didn't do the whole thing.
Speaker 9: I never had a little.
Speaker 4: You seem like not a great sorority member.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna take the mic from m and
Speaker 4: pass that along.
Speaker 3: Actually, before we go to the girls, let's go to
Speaker 3: our one fraternity boy. Man who's here, he's a man boy.
Speaker 3: Hello Michael, nice to see you. So, Michael, we will
Speaker 3: not name your school, but what is your fraternity?
Speaker 7: I'm in Sigma Kay.
Speaker 3: Great so well known fraternity across the country. Hearing the
Speaker 3: girls here, women ladies talk about work week? Is there
Speaker 3: anything that a fraternity does similar to this at all?
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is just meeting the guys.
Speaker 2: So the rush chair has kind of go through the
Speaker 2: same thing, making a list of all the new guys Instagrams,
Speaker 2: social medias and trying to meet them. I know people
Speaker 2: do some our meetups in certain towns, like there was
Speaker 2: a Chicago one I knew some kids at. There was
Speaker 2: a lot of people from Seattle at my school that
Speaker 2: all met up before.
Speaker 3: It does seem like there's way less rules, way less
Speaker 3: restrictions total, and you kind of meet each other in
Speaker 3: the summer and have an idea of the guys you
Speaker 3: want to have probably become pledges, yeah, and are you okay?
Speaker 4: So for guys, there is there a work week at all.
Speaker 3: No, So they're literally like rush starts this day, see
Speaker 3: you the night before.
Speaker 2: Actually, technically we do have a work week, it's mainly
Speaker 2: it's like rush week.
Speaker 4: Oh, it would be the same pil.
Speaker 2: Like I think the last two nights were up to
Speaker 2: like four am talking about the guys okay, deciding who
Speaker 2: you want to get, going through all them voting, But
Speaker 2: the first two nights are kind of just getting down
Speaker 2: getting some stories. I know it's different for every frattorney,
Speaker 2: but we had to get like seven stories for like
Speaker 2: each one's like ones and if their social ones like
Speaker 2: man of good character, man like it's stuff like that.
Speaker 4: You have to get some similarity, you have to get.
Speaker 4: Most attorneys are not like that, are not like that.
Speaker 2: We have to ask questions during rush week about filling
Speaker 2: these I guess like I don't know, yeah, yeah exactly,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't you say over there, yes, But it's
Speaker 2: not really a work week.
Speaker 3: So I would think again, the work week for the
Speaker 3: boys men would be cleaning the house. Is that part
Speaker 3: of it? Like trying to make the house look a
Speaker 3: little less yucky?
Speaker 2: No, they don't care about don't care. I mean it
Speaker 2: looks clean it before a party.
Speaker 4: Oh but not before rush?
Speaker 7: But before rush?
Speaker 2: I mean no, now is.
Speaker 4: There can you show Okay?
Speaker 3: So if you are a guy going through rush, can
Speaker 3: you just show up at a house or no? Do
Speaker 3: you have to be invited to come in? Is there
Speaker 3: any like open day? Like any dude can come in?
Speaker 4: There are open days? I know it's different.
Speaker 2: I've been I've done Rush at two different schools transferred,
Speaker 2: but there's usually one or two days that are open
Speaker 2: and like the next day will be like.
Speaker 4: A to have a text or something.
Speaker 2: But oh wow, Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: That panelmic is so strict with women and just lets
Speaker 3: these men go hogwild. Really kind of uh, I don't
Speaker 3: know what to say about that. Maybe we'll dig into
Speaker 3: that as season two of Dirty Rush goes on, because
Speaker 3: that really Panelmic is very strict with these rush rules
Speaker 3: for women, and yet it does seem like guys and
Speaker 3: I guess it's you know, over the you know, years
Speaker 3: and years and years. That's the way it goes Like,
Speaker 3: is there any there doesn't seem to be the same rules,
Speaker 3: like can you.
Speaker 4: Guys go out during Rush week?
Speaker 7: Totally.
Speaker 4: And can you.
Speaker 3: Talk to a dude and say, hey, we're probably gonna
Speaker 3: give you a bid. There any rules about.
Speaker 2: That where you have to be Attorney's different in the
Speaker 2: promising bid things. We don't promise that at all. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of frattorneys that will promise you a
Speaker 2: bid and it gets a kid all excited because he's
Speaker 2: like a freshman in college.
Speaker 4: He gets super stoked.
Speaker 9: But we don't promise that.
Speaker 4: Interesting, all right, thank you for contributing, Michael, great work.
Speaker 3: We're gonna now go to zoom where we have a
Speaker 3: top secret person joining who wasn't even able to come
Speaker 3: to this retreat we're on. We're we gathered this group
Speaker 3: together and we're in a secret location so that we
Speaker 3: can really find out, like really really, what is happening
Speaker 3: at work weeks all over the country. This is an
Speaker 3: interesting sorority member who has to participate in work week.
Speaker 3: But then we'll become what the older generation would call
Speaker 3: a roki. I think people call it a rogue, gam
Speaker 3: a rush counselor et cetera. So let's talk to our secret,
Speaker 3: secret secret person right now to get some information on
Speaker 3: what happens when you are a Rush counselor hello, secret
Speaker 3: person who is We are not going to give a
Speaker 3: name or a location for you, but we have some
Speaker 3: quest es. So, uh, we know that you will be
Speaker 3: not participating in sorority Rush because you will be a
Speaker 3: roki rush counselor what do they call it at your school?
Speaker 10: My school, we call it a recruitment counselor or an
Speaker 10: RC for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, So do you have to participate in work
Speaker 3: week even though you are not able to participate in
Speaker 3: Rush because you disaffiliate?
Speaker 4: Is that the right word?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I become a disaffiliated member. So that pretty much means
Speaker 10: I have to remove myself with all affiliation for my sorority.
Speaker 10: I delete everything for my Instagram, I take it off
Speaker 10: my LinkedIn. My chapter deletes me from their Instagram, and
Speaker 10: I become pretty much like an anonymous member.
Speaker 4: What is the reason for that?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: Why does it have to be so top secret for
Speaker 3: the roki because they really don't want these new rushies
Speaker 3: as we would call them PA and.
Speaker 10: M cnm's yeah, potential new member.
Speaker 3: Why do they want so much for them to not
Speaker 3: know the house that the Roqui is a part of.
Speaker 10: You're RC, like the only contact you really have throughout
Speaker 10: rush week, and oftentimes p and MS become very close
Speaker 10: with rcs, and we would never want PNM to choose
Speaker 10: a chapter solely based on if there r C is
Speaker 10: in it or not. We want P and MS to
Speaker 10: focus on what happens during rounds when they talk to houses,
Speaker 10: not what happens outside of rounds. So by eliminating the
Speaker 10: bias of the chapter of the RC, we help P
Speaker 10: and MS make a values based recruitment decision instead of
Speaker 10: choosing chapter based on more typical stereotypes.
Speaker 3: Now, what made you want to become RC as opposed
Speaker 3: to participating in rush with your sorority.
Speaker 10: When I went through primary recruitment as a P and M,
Speaker 10: I was very close with my RC and she helped
Speaker 10: me a lot during recruitment, and I thought it would
Speaker 10: be interesting to not only see what the other side
Speaker 10: of recruitment was like, but also help other girls who
Speaker 10: are going through something similar and help them choose a
Speaker 10: chapter where they see themselves being most successful.
Speaker 3: So I guess my question is how, how and why
Speaker 3: do you participate in work week when you then have
Speaker 3: to disaffiliate. What will you do during work week with
Speaker 3: your chapter and is there a reason they want, you know,
Speaker 3: roquis rcs to stay and still participate in work week.
Speaker 10: There are so many things that we need to learn
Speaker 10: as rcs, and like special ways we talk about things.
Speaker 10: Certain chapters at my campus are unhoused. One could say,
Speaker 10: but technically we're supposed to use the term flexible housing.
Speaker 4: What does that mean in real terms? What does that mean?
Speaker 10: In real terms? It means one sorority at our school
Speaker 10: lost their house because they couldn't have enough members joining
Speaker 10: the sorority. So during recruitment, they're the only chapter who
Speaker 10: recruits from a recruitment facility instead of their chapter house.
Speaker 10: So we have to speak very loosely when we talk
Speaker 10: about chapter houses as to.
Speaker 4: Not hurt ex.
Speaker 10: Yes, as to not exclude anyone from the primary recruitment process.
Speaker 5: There's also.
Speaker 10: Primary recruitment can be really hard for p and ms,
Speaker 10: so finding ways to help them and like we have
Speaker 10: a lot of training on John Gille conversations.
Speaker 3: My apologies for interrupting during work week? Do you get
Speaker 3: trained how to be a rokui as opposed to do
Speaker 3: a bump group or learn the songs or all the
Speaker 3: things that other people are doing during Russia are you
Speaker 3: getting your training to be an RC?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 10: Instead of spending my day doing a bump group or
Speaker 10: talking to members, I'm like sitting in presentations and learning
Speaker 10: about what it means to be an RC and kind
Speaker 10: of what my responsibilities might be.
Speaker 4: Do you have to get picked to be an RC?
Speaker 4: Do you volunteer? How does that work to be a
Speaker 4: ROCI at my school?
Speaker 10: Least, it's a pretty extensive application process. A lot of
Speaker 10: people want to be an RC just because they are
Speaker 10: tired of recruiting, and it's kind of easier some people think.
Speaker 10: But we have to apply, submit essays, and then we
Speaker 10: are called in for an interview, and after your interview
Speaker 10: you hear back via email. But each chapter does have
Speaker 10: to have five people apply to the positions, so they
Speaker 10: want the number of our ces to be balanced throughout
Speaker 10: the chapters.
Speaker 4: Got it?
Speaker 3: Got it so that not one house has all the
Speaker 3: roquies exactly, don't have representation exactly.
Speaker 4: It's almost like a therapist these the rush.
Speaker 10: Yes. Yeah, we've had some crazy stories from recruitment, as
Speaker 10: in our sea my friend had a P and M
Speaker 10: who like locked themselves in the bathroom and refused to
Speaker 10: leave until they got the house back that they wanted,
Speaker 10: and obviously there's nothing that anybody can do after a
Speaker 10: round has been decided.
Speaker 4: So oh wow, it's story dramatic.
Speaker 3: That's the word I was going to use as well. Well,
Speaker 3: thank you so much. I appreciate it. Welcome back to
Speaker 3: Dirty Rush. So basically what is happening is we are
Speaker 3: doing our own version of a work week where we
Speaker 3: gathered many sorority members in one fraternity member.
Speaker 4: Somehow we got like we had one guy here.
Speaker 3: But to really be able to bring you everything that's
Speaker 3: happening at Rush around the country work week, we have
Speaker 3: people live at Rush throughout the country to really peel
Speaker 3: back the curtain and let you guys know what really
Speaker 3: goes on behind these Greek lettered closed doors. So Lee,
Speaker 3: first of all, does work week seem a little bit crazy?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: Is it a little bit? How do I ask? This?
Speaker 3: A lot of work for something that maybe could be easier.
Speaker 1: I would say, so, I feel like it's kind of
Speaker 1: especially nowadays with social media, I would say it's extra.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it seems like we're putting in maybe twice
Speaker 3: as much time to some of these things as maybe
Speaker 3: as necessary.
Speaker 4: But I get it.
Speaker 3: I remember doing it So at your school, which we
Speaker 3: won't name, your sorty with theta, what does work week
Speaker 3: mean to you?
Speaker 4: From your school?
Speaker 5: Work week?
Speaker 1: It's hard to encapsulate it into word one word. It's
Speaker 1: just intense and kind of to your point for no reason,
Speaker 1: Like it's a really big everybody's just so intense about.
Speaker 4: I was getting fights and screaming matches and drama.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a lot of drama.
Speaker 1: Emotions are high, people are overtired, people feel like they're overwork.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and dancing is hard.
Speaker 9: I mean it's so hard out in the Texas Sea.
Speaker 3: But also is it fun at all? I have many
Speaker 3: memories of its sort of being fun. Would anyone call
Speaker 3: it fun?
Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, I think some people would. It's
Speaker 1: just not everybody's cup of tea. But it kind of
Speaker 1: just comes with the gig. So some people love it,
Speaker 1: some people hate it. But what's interesting, at least about
Speaker 1: where I went to school is how kind of, like
Speaker 1: I was saying, intense, it's gone and we're like, now
Speaker 1: you need to submit your outfits weeks before and they can.
Speaker 4: Do that with a photo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you need to have it all map sounds
Speaker 3: different than Catherine's school, so you commit a photo, and again,
Speaker 3: is a brand name label more is a brand name label.
Speaker 4: Easier to get approved.
Speaker 3: Than TJ Max or you know, Problem Macs Amazon.
Speaker 9: But it kind of depends.
Speaker 1: Because work week itself, there's two things you need to
Speaker 1: get approved, and it's your work week outfits and.
Speaker 9: It's Rush week outfits.
Speaker 4: A prison every day is themed of work week? Yes,
Speaker 4: why because of social media?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of social media and they use it to
Speaker 1: market the whole thing.
Speaker 4: And so if it's would you say you have to
Speaker 4: have for all of this all.
Speaker 1: In Well, there's five weekdays of work week, which are
Speaker 1: like the five days you're posting about it and doing
Speaker 1: social along with preparing for Rush. So those five outfits
Speaker 1: need to match the theme and you need to submit
Speaker 1: them and get them approved.
Speaker 3: And then for Rush person has to go through all
Speaker 3: these photos approving the Rush chair terrible, like they don't
Speaker 3: already have.
Speaker 4: Enough things on there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, but yeah, then for Rush Week, I mean,
Speaker 1: you get two T shirts for the first two rounds
Speaker 1: because it's two days of I don't even remember what
Speaker 1: it's called the first round, but everybody coming through and
Speaker 1: you just wear a T shirt that says cap alphatata
Speaker 1: on it, and then after that you need to wear
Speaker 1: dresses and those need to get a purch.
Speaker 4: You have a floral day like Catherine over there.
Speaker 9: I don't think we had a floral day. All of
Speaker 9: ours were colored like we did because those are our colors,
Speaker 9: as colors.
Speaker 4: Are black and gold.
Speaker 9: And then there was one other day that was like runch.
Speaker 3: You could wear and were you allowed to drink during
Speaker 3: work week? No, you have to be completely dry, and
Speaker 3: I feel like to leave the house, you're allowed to.
Speaker 3: But you what's interesting is you have to wear a pin.
Speaker 3: So every sorority like you have this big pin that
Speaker 3: you have to have.
Speaker 9: On your shirt. So you'll see the girls who are p.
Speaker 1: And ms at the gym and you're wearing this pin
Speaker 1: so they know they can't talk to.
Speaker 3: You, or you'll all right moving in around. So that
Speaker 3: the town just says like I'm in a sorority. It
Speaker 3: doesn't say it says your sorority. So what if some
Speaker 3: rushie is there early and then they start figuring out
Speaker 3: who's in what house.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because they'll they'll okay, yeah, correct. And
Speaker 1: then if you're a rogramma, you get I think you
Speaker 1: get like a rogamma pin, so.
Speaker 3: They know that you're okay. So you go to the gym,
Speaker 3: and who's not allowed to talk to you? Anyone going
Speaker 3: through rush?
Speaker 9: Anyone going through rush?
Speaker 4: Now can you talk to other sororities if you want to?
Speaker 1: You can, but you shouldn't, like technically you shouldn't, but
Speaker 1: some kind of a tie fire or dj oh, girls
Speaker 1: and other sororities. You mean, yeah, you can talk to
Speaker 1: girls and other sorties. I thought you meant the p
Speaker 1: and ms you shouldn't talk to the p and ms.
Speaker 1: But some girls kind of instigate and they test the
Speaker 1: waters and see how others.
Speaker 4: And would that be classified as dirty rush? Or okay?
Speaker 3: Now what if, like you have a friend from hometown
Speaker 3: going through rush, and are they technically not supposed to
Speaker 3: talk to you?
Speaker 1: Technically not, but you can give a hug and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: how are you welcome?
Speaker 9: We're so excited that you're made it to X y
Speaker 9: Z school.
Speaker 1: Okay, got it, But it just shouldn't be any conversation
Speaker 1: shrouding rush.
Speaker 9: So it looks suspended.
Speaker 3: Do you feel also that during work week your coach
Speaker 3: to give the proper answer as opposed to maybe what's
Speaker 3: the most truthful answer. I'd say in analyzing all this,
Speaker 3: the one flag I have is like, why we're all
Speaker 3: putting on airs is what I would call it, as
Speaker 3: opposed to just being like, here's what college is really like.
Speaker 4: Enjoy I know, do you know what I'm saying, because.
Speaker 3: I know two days later after Rush you're just suddenly
Speaker 3: real I'm like, that's probably maybe something we.
Speaker 4: Should dig into this season on Yeah, Rush.
Speaker 3: So would you say work week is valuable in some regards?
Speaker 1: Yes, because I mean you would be amazed at the
Speaker 1: way that college girls can pull together an event like
Speaker 1: this and have it so organized. It It honestly is
Speaker 1: very very impressive what gets pulled off and work week
Speaker 1: and it's it's like a little business and you're marketing yourself,
Speaker 1: you're doing the social media whatever.
Speaker 4: But I like what I would consider a semi Broadway production.
Speaker 4: I guess I would want to it the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty intense, and it really does amaze me
Speaker 1: how many things actually do get done.
Speaker 3: I guess the question I have is do twenty percent
Speaker 3: of the girls do ninety percent of the work? I
Speaker 3: would say so, And would you say that that's the
Speaker 3: case for your schools we're not even gonna ask m
Speaker 3: because she didn't even participate.
Speaker 4: So the answer is yes, Catherine.
Speaker 3: Would you say a small number of girls are doing
Speaker 3: way more than their share of work during work week?
Speaker 5: Hundred percent? I think it depends.
Speaker 6: So for us, we put the younger girls because those
Speaker 6: are the girls who are going to be getting littles.
Speaker 5: We have them do majority of the work.
Speaker 6: Of you're talking to multiple girls in one round, you're
Speaker 6: the one that's kind of your both talking, you're singing,
Speaker 6: you're it's like a whole mix of things to compare
Speaker 6: to some girls where it's like we're gonna have you
Speaker 6: kind of just float around and maybe like walk a
Speaker 6: girl off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and does anyone like come in the house, gets
Speaker 3: their name checked off, like they're here, and then they
Speaker 3: go hide in a room and like play on their
Speaker 3: phone or whatever.
Speaker 6: Like I mean, like the seniors when it comes to
Speaker 6: work week, it's like they're planning their Vegas trips for
Speaker 6: that week.
Speaker 3: And then I don't know how memories of yeah, work
Speaker 3: week be rash as a senior. All right, So to
Speaker 3: wrap it up, first of all, it's an interesting concept
Speaker 3: work week. I do think in some ways it makes
Speaker 3: sense right, You have to prepare to put on events.
Speaker 3: Like Lee was saying over here that it's like you
Speaker 3: can't just open the door for a party without planning
Speaker 3: the party. What's also interesting is, like a party, you
Speaker 3: prepare for the party, and then the party.
Speaker 4: Last twenty minutes. Do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 4: when you're throwing a dinner party.
Speaker 3: You prepare, prepare, prepare, buy all the things, decorate the house,
Speaker 3: clean the house, do all these things, and then your dinner.
Speaker 4: Last two hours.
Speaker 3: The work is much more than the actual event. I
Speaker 3: guess My thing I want to know as we wrap
Speaker 3: up here is one word to describe work week? Did
Speaker 3: you actually love it or hate it? And is it
Speaker 3: effective for each of you? One word to describe work week.
Speaker 5: I liked the word intense, but I'll also say dramatic.
Speaker 4: Great, And do you think it's worth it? Ultimately?
Speaker 5: I think it's worth it.
Speaker 6: I think depending on your school obviously and how you
Speaker 6: guys orchestrate it. But it's all rehearsed. It's more so
Speaker 6: what yeah, it's work weeks about like rehearsing for the.
Speaker 4: Day of Would you use the word fake or not quite?
Speaker 5: No, I would use the word fake Okay, great.
Speaker 3: Good to know and I forgot my last question menopause,
Speaker 3: but I think it was.
Speaker 4: Is it worth it?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean you want to, like, you want to show
Speaker 6: up day of have these p and m's come in,
Speaker 6: and like you want to know what you're doing. You
Speaker 6: don't want to feel lost, and you don't want them
Speaker 6: to know that you are lost either. And like if
Speaker 6: they pick up on any little queue that you guys have,
Speaker 6: that you guys are practicing, like, they'll immediately know that
Speaker 6: that's all say.
Speaker 3: The hammock of messing up a bump group is like
Speaker 3: actual full fear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's full body fear.
Speaker 5: There are so many little things that we I.
Speaker 3: Don't know where I'm going, I don't know what I'm doing,
Speaker 3: and my whole body has gone limp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, m over to you. Can you even describe
Speaker 4: work week? Since you seem like the very bad sorority member.
Speaker 7: I would say it's very overhyped.
Speaker 3: Okay, and uh worth it now because you didn't even
Speaker 3: do it exactly?
Speaker 4: What was my other question?
Speaker 5: Did you like?
Speaker 11: Who cares? Who cares? Did you love it or hate it?
Speaker 11: She doesn't hate it, she didn't do it? Okay, Lee,
Speaker 11: work week, I literally menopause. I forgot my questions worth.
Speaker 1: It in one word, I would keep giving, give another word,
Speaker 1: give another word, like.
Speaker 4: Hell or fun like hell. But to me, overhyped was
Speaker 4: a good word.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think overhyped is a good word to me.
Speaker 9: I just didn't like how calculated it felt.
Speaker 4: Calculated.
Speaker 1: Okay, how calculated and you're just like planning your every
Speaker 1: move and what you were saying earlier.
Speaker 9: It's kind of fake.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like you can't talk about these things
Speaker 1: that immediately the second reends, you're gonna talk about and
Speaker 1: you're gonna bond over and that's the whole reason you're
Speaker 1: gonna be friends, because you're in college and you're going
Speaker 1: out and you're kissing wooz and you're having it misleading.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the word is misleading, but you
Speaker 3: are misleading these rushies, as you you know, as.
Speaker 4: Me said a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I do feel like most of them are cuted
Speaker 1: into like what happened gets after they get the vibe.
Speaker 4: They get worse. It is all that work worth it, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, Like to me, no, but I think it
Speaker 1: also depends on your experience and your sority. I was
Speaker 1: like kind of met about some people love their sorority.
Speaker 4: Minute of it. I'd go back today. I'd like to
Speaker 4: live there.
Speaker 3: Literally, we're like planning a reunion right now, and there's
Speaker 3: like every day I add a new member to the
Speaker 3: text chat for our reunion and I get so happy.
Speaker 3: I loved every second of it. I hope when we're
Speaker 3: eighty that we all just moved back into the house together.
Speaker 4: Work week was like rough. It just was a lot.
Speaker 4: That's I guess that was what I would say, It's
Speaker 4: just a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 3: But I also know that, like I said, messing up
Speaker 3: is worse. Honestly, Yeah, it's real stressful.
Speaker 4: It would be.
Speaker 5: It would be.
Speaker 4: So look, you're you're you.
Speaker 3: Want to put on a good front to these people
Speaker 3: coming in who it does impact their college experience completely,
Speaker 3: So you don't want to just.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent lazy about it.
Speaker 1: Yet you want to choose a great pledge cost because
Speaker 1: you want to continue your legacy and remain a house
Speaker 1: that is top and whatever that regardless for you. Like
Speaker 1: for my sorority grades, we were always hopping grades for
Speaker 1: the past like ten years.
Speaker 9: Once I had got there. I don't know how I know.
Speaker 1: That's a different story. But they were so serious about grades,
Speaker 1: and so they really wanted to choose girls who were
Speaker 1: fun and nice but also academic and whatever. So whatever
Speaker 1: your values are, you really want to right, we hold
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 3: I think that wraps up sort of our inside look
Speaker 3: at work week. We're going to continue it. And thanks
Speaker 3: for listening to Dirty Rush.
Speaker 4: Let's get dirty.
Speaker 1: Thanks