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Speaker 3: And there is breaking news right off the top as
Speaker 3: we get started here and Mickey, would you like to
Speaker 3: break the news to everyone? Yeah, I haven't already heard it.
Speaker 4: I was going to say, pull out the Gilda Radner.
Speaker 4: It's always something new. And the Cowboys found out, or
Speaker 4: actually head coach Mike McCarthy found out this morning when
Speaker 4: he walked into the building it probably around five point
Speaker 4: thirty six in the morning, that he wasn't feeling well
Speaker 4: and went to see the Cowboys trainer, Jim Mauer, and
Speaker 4: they decided that to get to the doctor and they
Speaker 4: diagnosed him with acute appendicitis.
Speaker 3: And if you've ever had a cute appendicitis, it wasn't
Speaker 3: that he wasn't feeling well. There was something that was
Speaker 3: very painful.
Speaker 4: Sounds like Bill's been through this.
Speaker 2: Uh huh you have to Oh yeah, have you no?
Speaker 2: But I still got mine Sunday night games. My first
Speaker 2: game with the Giants was against Philadelphia. Oh it's crazy.
Speaker 2: And Plascelles had surgery.
Speaker 4: That morning and for appendicitis.
Speaker 2: Appendicitis, and he still came and coached. Yeah, he looked
Speaker 2: like crap, looked like you'll tell he was not the
Speaker 2: good move at the time.
Speaker 3: You know what happened to me? When I had a pendicided.
Speaker 3: So I was on the road trip. I was broadcasting
Speaker 3: Ranger games and it was in Saint Petersburg, Florida.
Speaker 2: I came.
Speaker 3: I came back from a morning jog and happened to
Speaker 3: see Pud Rodriguez in the elevator and he said to me,
Speaker 3: you're not looking goods. No, I wasn't feeling bad at
Speaker 3: that point. And then I got to my room and
Speaker 3: I started having having severe pain. But it was located
Speaker 3: up like in my sternham whatever and uh, and it
Speaker 3: didn't go away, and so I went to the hospital.
Speaker 3: H and Okay, I thought I was having a heart
Speaker 3: attack or something. And so I go to the hospital
Speaker 3: and they did a stressed est, they did all this stuff.
Speaker 3: It was because I that's what the Rangers trainer said,
Speaker 3: go to the hospital, tell him you're having chest pains.
Speaker 3: They'll get you right in.
Speaker 2: So they got me right in.
Speaker 3: It was I think it was. It may have been
Speaker 3: the next day they finally figured out it's my appendix.
Speaker 2: You were in pain for.
Speaker 3: Yes, I did a stress test with it and my
Speaker 3: appendix had burst. So I wound up spending a week
Speaker 3: in the hospital and two weeks before I was able
Speaker 3: to go back to work and it was bad. So
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there. Yeah, okay, you if they get it
Speaker 3: early enough, if you don't go to the hospital and
Speaker 3: say you got chess pains.
Speaker 2: And you you know, and they get.
Speaker 3: It early enough, you can you can be back at
Speaker 3: practice tomorrow or or in the case of ourselves have
Speaker 3: chest pains.
Speaker 2: Then you put you you're directing them in the wrong
Speaker 2: area though, that's right, and that's what took them so
Speaker 2: long to find it, right, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but because yours burst, you probably had a little
Speaker 5: bit longer of a Yes.
Speaker 3: I had infection and then yeah, so it was an
Speaker 3: infect it was an infection. And then I've spent a
Speaker 3: week in the hospital and say.
Speaker 4: You you Jimmy Smith. Yeah, Jimmy Smith, Cowboys wh receiver.
Speaker 4: His bursted and they they were treating him for I
Speaker 4: don't know what, but his appendix burst and he basically
Speaker 4: I think the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: So yours burst while they were misdiagnosing.
Speaker 3: Basically, Yes, I don't know when it burst, but it burst.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Well, I found out the uh how they test you
Speaker 4: for it, because when I had like really bad side
Speaker 4: pains and I went to the emergency place across the
Speaker 4: street here and they started checking all this stuff and
Speaker 4: she's feeling around and and I'm going to this this
Speaker 4: my appendix because it was kind of on that side,
Speaker 4: and she pressed really hard where your appendix is? And
Speaker 4: she goes, no, it's not your appendix, because you would
Speaker 4: have jumped out of the bed after I pushed that hard.
Speaker 4: And it ended up being a kidney.
Speaker 2: So well, it's a thing that you don't even really need, right.
Speaker 3: No, parents, that's why is it there?
Speaker 2: Right? That's crazy that and a kid obviously so weird.
Speaker 4: So anyway, Uh, he's slated for surgery McCarthy this afternoon
Speaker 4: and should be released at the in the evening.
Speaker 3: And which means it's a scope.
Speaker 4: So basically yeah, and uh, you know from all what
Speaker 4: So Dan Quinn's stepped in for the press conference today
Speaker 4: and basically said that, you know, McCarthy expects to be
Speaker 4: good to go for the game. And I'm paraphrasing here,
Speaker 4: but I think his quote was, do you think this
Speaker 4: irishman's going to miss this game?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: And so, uh, they'll carry on without him for maybe
Speaker 4: a day, two days at the most. I bet he's back.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, they're not going to let you stay
Speaker 2: in the hospital on No, they try to get back
Speaker 2: to the hospital.
Speaker 4: Insurance don't want you to sleep.
Speaker 2: You haven't. Don't rest in the hospital, rest at home.
Speaker 5: So anyway, Quinn even said he'll probably be calm later
Speaker 5: tonight or watching watching tape or adding into to whatever
Speaker 5: they're doing today in practice.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's that's one of the significant things about this.
Speaker 3: This is the install day. I mean when the players
Speaker 3: get back today. You know, obviously Dak has been at
Speaker 3: it probably I mean the last couple of days for sure.
Speaker 3: But for when when you're the offensive coordinator or the
Speaker 3: play caller in this case, Brian Schottenheim or the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 3: you're heavily involved in the install today.
Speaker 4: And but everything's been planned out all right, right, so
Speaker 4: now Brian Schottenheimer just kind of runs the offensive practice.
Speaker 4: What you worry about is just being ready to call
Speaker 4: plays on Sunday. And I was getting ready to ask
Speaker 4: you did you have a coach miss a game or
Speaker 4: miss a practice?
Speaker 2: So you just told you didn't. He didn't miss anything, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he didn't.
Speaker 4: What about Tom? Did Tom ever get sick and missing Tom?
Speaker 4: Break never missed the practice, they were.
Speaker 2: Trying to shoot at him. Tom wasn't. They don't make
Speaker 2: them like that anymore.
Speaker 4: So anyway, And so this is kind of ironic, but
Speaker 4: I was going to come in today. I did a
Speaker 4: little bit of research on the longest active winning streaks
Speaker 4: in the NFL right now, and it's basically four straight.
Speaker 4: It's it's the Cowboys, Indianapolis, and San Francisco active, right,
Speaker 4: And I was thinking, you know, winning streaks in the
Speaker 4: NFL so many factors, cause whatever, Right, It's like there's
Speaker 4: always something. It might be playing on the road, it
Speaker 4: might be weather, it might be injuries I didn't think of.
Speaker 4: It might be the head coach a pendicitis attack, right,
Speaker 4: But it seems like always something. The longest one this
Speaker 4: year winning streak was six games by Kansas City and
Speaker 4: then Denver, and then there were six teams including Philadelphia
Speaker 4: twice with five game winning streaks, and now the longest
Speaker 4: active is the Cowboys with four. And Bill, you know,
Speaker 4: when we were talking about after the loss to the
Speaker 4: Eagles the first time, it's like, okay, they got to
Speaker 4: win four straight. Bill said, well, they got to win
Speaker 4: five straight, right, So think about it, even if they
Speaker 4: win five straight They're not out of.
Speaker 2: The woods, right, And I kept following up with Bill
Speaker 2: saying that it's going to be down the stretch all
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 4: So think about it. What everybody's asking is, Okay, beat
Speaker 4: the Eagles and then win your next what four games?
Speaker 4: Nine straight? Twelve straight?
Speaker 7: Tough?
Speaker 2: And you still might have to go on the road
Speaker 2: if you make the championship game.
Speaker 4: Right, So yeah, it's a tough stretch for them after
Speaker 4: having won this many games? Can you win another one?
Speaker 4: Five straight? Right? And then whoa what about the next
Speaker 4: two that we talked about that or on the road.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the odds are not with you winning that
Speaker 4: many straight in this game. And then this happened today,
Speaker 4: and I'm going maybe I was clairvoyant, you know.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 3: And one of the reasons I said five straight, besides
Speaker 3: the fact that Philadelphia happened to be the fifth straight,
Speaker 3: is I had done this research before. In previous seasons
Speaker 3: when the Cowboys have won Super Bowls, They've always had
Speaker 3: a stretch during the season where they've won at least
Speaker 3: five straight games, it seems like, right, And I'm just
Speaker 3: now going back through it. The first time they won
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl in seventy one, it was ten in
Speaker 3: a row to win the super Bowl and included the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl game. In seventy seven they started the season
Speaker 3: with four, five, six, seven. They were what seven or
Speaker 3: eight in a row to start the season there, ninety two,
Speaker 3: ninety three, I did say in ninety five, I think
Speaker 3: it was four games. They had two or three four
Speaker 3: game win streaks, including but they had a five game
Speaker 3: win streak which included the Super Bowl that year.
Speaker 4: And even go to ninety one when they finished the
Speaker 4: season on a five game to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 4: And I could always remember Tom Landry saying, I want
Speaker 4: my team streaking into the playoffs. You don't want to
Speaker 4: go in limping and having losses. And this was before
Speaker 4: teams qualified, and then the last game of the season
Speaker 4: they would blow off. I don't think there was any
Speaker 4: games blown off in the sixties, seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2: What would you think? Which team would you think was
Speaker 2: Jimmy's best team? Ninety two? Did they have a streak
Speaker 2: going in ninety two?
Speaker 4: Actually it might have been ninety three.
Speaker 3: It probably was ninety three.
Speaker 4: Least they lost the first two, then they won the
Speaker 4: next seven, and then they lost the two Sunday Thanksgiving,
Speaker 4: and he basically told them we got to win the
Speaker 4: last however many games, five games in a row to
Speaker 4: get home field advantage. And remember they didn't win the
Speaker 4: last one until overtime against the Giants. Just win the division.
Speaker 3: Here's what happened in ninety three. I spoke to So
Speaker 3: ninety three was their better team.
Speaker 2: Okay, don't you think? Yes? Seven?
Speaker 3: Okay, they went to zero to two without Emmett and
Speaker 3: then seven in a row, seven okay. And then Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: Week they lost that game at Atlanta twenty seven to fourteen,
Speaker 3: and then the leon Lett game on Thanksgiving Day against
Speaker 3: Miami in the sixteen to fourteen.
Speaker 2: That's not fair. And then and then that is not cool,
Speaker 2: you know, just like castling through him under the bus man.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys lost that game and won.
Speaker 2: Was it the catch?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So it was five straight in the regular season. Basically,
Speaker 3: they ended with an eight game win streak to win
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: And if he was a jockey, he went to the
Speaker 4: whip over those last five games. And I remember Darryl
Speaker 4: Johnson telling me after that whole streak and the Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: he said, Jimmy Drovis as hard as anybody could imagine
Speaker 4: and I don't know if he could ever do that again.
Speaker 3: And when he told me.
Speaker 4: That, it was like because he pulled out all the
Speaker 4: tricks right to drive him and then he stepped away
Speaker 4: basically right. His five years were up and him and
Speaker 4: Jerry had the little deal. But again, I think there
Speaker 4: was some some doubt on he coached us so hard,
Speaker 4: how's he going to come back and do it again?
Speaker 2: Right? Well, I wondered, do they get too tired winning,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to win this you keep the streak
Speaker 2: going the regular season and then once you got left
Speaker 2: for the playoffs. That's kind of what you worry about
Speaker 2: a little bit with with any team. And with that team.
Speaker 2: Did they end up with home field advantage in ninety.
Speaker 4: Three, Yes, but only because they won the division and
Speaker 4: then it ended up with a twelve and.
Speaker 2: Twelve Well, I guess it was ninety two they went,
Speaker 2: they went to San fran and one.
Speaker 4: Yes, the NFC title game.
Speaker 3: Which is ninety two is my favorite, and they went
Speaker 3: thirteen and three in the last season.
Speaker 8: It's hard to say which one is better, right, but
Speaker 8: they were better than ninety five, yes, those two years,
Speaker 8: I think, But yeah, so so well, what happened in
Speaker 8: eighty one.
Speaker 2: Did you guys finds a question with a question?
Speaker 3: A winning streak at the eighty one eighty one It
Speaker 3: was four straight to start the season, then two losses
Speaker 3: Saint Louis and San franc Us Go two road losses,
Speaker 3: and then four straight, then a loss at Detroit four straight,
Speaker 3: then a lost in the season in overtime at the Giants,
Speaker 3: and then see that's why you didn't win the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl had nothing to do with the catch. You didn't
Speaker 3: have a five game win streak. You only had four
Speaker 3: game win streaks.
Speaker 2: If San Fran was San Fran able to I mean,
Speaker 2: well they already they had. That was we have overcome twelve. Okay,
Speaker 2: so because we we we lost the tipebreaker. Yeah, you didn't, right,
Speaker 2: I don't think we went again. The Giants game didn't
Speaker 2: mean anything. The Giants game meant nothing.
Speaker 4: To us, and that was because they already had.
Speaker 2: I think we were mad because we went into overtime, like,
Speaker 2: come on, make can we get out of here? It's
Speaker 2: an overtime and it didn't mean anything to it, right,
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 3: And then the next week you took on Doug Williams
Speaker 3: and Tampa Bay and there's thirty eight eleven.
Speaker 2: Dennis Thurman's game. Yeah, pick six.
Speaker 4: How many playoffs games did they have to win to
Speaker 4: get to the one? Just one?
Speaker 2: And then you're in. Yeah, we couldn't have that last
Speaker 2: game against the Giants didn't mean anything. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 2: that would have been a five game.
Speaker 3: Just rewrote history.
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: All right here on a Wednesday at the Star News
Speaker 3: filled Wednesday, and Mickey's got a legal pad filled with
Speaker 3: items he wants to get to.
Speaker 4: Well, the last one is They've made a little a
Speaker 4: roster adjustment today. Sean McEwan was placed on injured reserve
Speaker 4: and Peyton Hendershot was activated off of IR to the
Speaker 4: fifty three man roster, and Matt will Let's go opened
Speaker 4: up his twenty one day window to begin practicing. He
Speaker 4: is on IR return, so they made a little roster
Speaker 4: adjustment today before the practice.
Speaker 3: And zach Ertz is not signed with Philadelphia. He has
Speaker 3: he's not.
Speaker 4: Oh he's not.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of speculation.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what the new speculation. The new speculation
Speaker 4: is the Domakon sue. They're thinking about signing him and
Speaker 4: he hasn't played all year.
Speaker 3: They don't have enough big defensive tackles on their defense
Speaker 3: that I haven't drafted well in the first round. Thee
Speaker 3: out of Georgia. The last couple of weeks were.
Speaker 4: The scores of their last two games, because I thought
Speaker 4: I read something that they given up like seventy six points.
Speaker 3: Well, they gave up forty two, forty nine ers and
Speaker 3: they gave up thirty four to the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 4: How much to us is that seventy six?
Speaker 3: That would be seventy six?
Speaker 2: How much to us?
Speaker 4: And I meant the last two games.
Speaker 3: And it was the Cowboy game up there was twenty
Speaker 3: eight twenty three three.
Speaker 4: So it's almost like they're trying to pick two more touchdowns, yeah, right,
Speaker 4: or two and a two point one and a two
Speaker 4: point conversion. Yeah, they're just picking up everybody. But again,
Speaker 4: somebody said, well, how do they have the cap space? Well,
Speaker 4: you only got to pay the guy for five games.
Speaker 4: So you know, when they said they signed Leonard to
Speaker 4: a one year deal. Well, it's a five good.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this about Shack Leonard because I
Speaker 3: was doing a podcast with a guy in Philadelphia this
Speaker 3: morning and we were talking about Shaq Leonard. And I'll
Speaker 3: tell you how I answered this question after you tell
Speaker 3: me how you would answer it. Where does Shaq Leonard
Speaker 3: fit in right now on this Cowboys team? Like their
Speaker 3: speculation that Okay, in Philadelphia, with what they've had going
Speaker 3: on at linebacker right now, Nick Morrow and Christian Ellis
Speaker 3: with their two linebackers in the game against San Francisco
Speaker 3: last week, we saw how that went, that that he
Speaker 3: would be able to step on the field and pretty
Speaker 3: much get snaps immediately. Okay, what do you how do
Speaker 3: you think if he had signed with Dallas, what do
Speaker 3: you think the scenario would have been as far as
Speaker 3: how many snaps he gets on defense this week and
Speaker 3: in the next couple of weeks after that.
Speaker 4: Well, I was told it would be more of a
Speaker 4: depth move and that it would be spotted on maybe
Speaker 4: how the offense, what kind of formation they're in.
Speaker 2: Uh that if he win sub packages.
Speaker 4: Sub packages exactly?
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, And that's how I answered it.
Speaker 3: I said, you know, they've got the Cowboys have Demone
Speaker 3: Clark and Marquise Bell, who has been playing as as
Speaker 3: well as anybody on the defense. It seems like you
Speaker 3: know all season and it was. And that's basically the
Speaker 3: way I put it. It's a depth move. It's a
Speaker 3: move where if you had an injury to at your
Speaker 3: linebacking corps, Okay, you got Rashaun Evans, who's had a
Speaker 3: hard time getting on the field. He had three snaps
Speaker 3: last week. I think he had fourteen, his most number
Speaker 3: of snaps he's had in a game. That was when
Speaker 3: Bell was nursing something. But if you lost one of
Speaker 3: those guys.
Speaker 4: And Micah Parson's a full time linebacker, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even for but for if Shaq Leonard's on
Speaker 3: the team, that gives you it fortifies the position, you know,
Speaker 3: right and there.
Speaker 4: And if you know what, if they were honest, they
Speaker 4: probably explained it to him that way.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: And so when we're talking about, oh, he picked Philadelphia
Speaker 3: because he thinks Philadelphia has a better chance to win
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, He's got a better chance to get
Speaker 3: on the now. He may think that. He may think that,
Speaker 3: but even if if you look at both teams have
Speaker 3: equal chance to win the Super Bowl. Okay, the better
Speaker 3: opportunity for him to get snaps appears to be in
Speaker 3: Philadelphia than here, and he.
Speaker 6: Needs to re establish himself because so something was going
Speaker 6: on in Indianapolis and from what I heard, he wasn't
Speaker 6: playing as well as he had been and they had
Speaker 6: reduced his snaps and he didn't like it, and he
Speaker 6: was starting to become vocal, and they basically were thinking, Okay,
Speaker 6: we need to we need to cut this right now,
Speaker 6: we need to cut ties.
Speaker 4: Probably not going to be here next year because his
Speaker 4: cap hit was so high, and so they decided, even
Speaker 4: though they're in the playoff race, that they needed to
Speaker 4: move forward and not disrupt the locker room.
Speaker 2: He must have really been disruptive because he's accustomed to
Speaker 2: speaking out. He's one of the leaders of the team,
Speaker 2: and you would think that he'd get a little bit
Speaker 2: more expect Let's let's put it.
Speaker 3: This, what if what if Everson Walls? Yeah, okay, what
Speaker 3: what if it was a situation where Everson Walls at
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty nine?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think I know where you're going here.
Speaker 3: Okay, now, you you started, you continued to start right, Okay,
Speaker 3: you didn't.
Speaker 4: Okay, but there weren't there weren't that many games left,
Speaker 4: was there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we like seven games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was about the same boy.
Speaker 2: Remember I remember saying we're one in eight. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: worried about people on the field and eight right, you
Speaker 2: had you had, We're not going to the playoffs one one.
Speaker 2: And that's the line that he never can't forget. He
Speaker 2: could never forget that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Everson was vocal about that, exactly.
Speaker 4: One and eight at the same time, six games, we
Speaker 4: were one in eight.
Speaker 2: They are not there in the hut.
Speaker 4: We were not actually know what I was going to ask,
Speaker 4: because he showed up for the next game at the stadium.
Speaker 4: He was sitting in a suite and the character for
Speaker 4: the Colts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, after he was released, and.
Speaker 4: The cameras caught him and he got a standing ovation.
Speaker 4: So I was going to ask, do you think you
Speaker 4: showed up you would have got a standing innovation at
Speaker 4: Texas Stadium?
Speaker 2: I would have gotten booed. So it just occurred to me,
Speaker 2: why weren't you released? Why?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 3: Why weren't you released after they when? Why didn't they
Speaker 3: do to you what Indianapolis did?
Speaker 2: Nobody wanted anyone from a one in eighteen Just that simple.
Speaker 2: No one wanted anyone and they weren't really dealing players
Speaker 2: that freely back then in nineteen.
Speaker 3: Eight for releasing players, yeah, that wasn't it's not a trade.
Speaker 3: You're past the trade dead and so they would be
Speaker 3: releasing you.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, but but ye And at the same time,
Speaker 2: he probably felt that he might still need us to
Speaker 2: finish out the season. They didn't have that many plays.
Speaker 2: How about this? How about this?
Speaker 3: What if you got on with a team and won
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl that year?
Speaker 2: That year? Uh huh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Let's let him sit here.
Speaker 2: I don't well that that did work out well for
Speaker 2: me because it gave me a chance to really look
Speaker 2: around to see where I.
Speaker 4: Wanted to go. So did you use those you have
Speaker 4: guaranteed money? Well, what about your annuity.
Speaker 2: After the after the it was like this, after eight games,
Speaker 2: you know, they don't have to pay you a damn thing.
Speaker 2: So that's why all the moves were always made at
Speaker 2: mid season, because they were gonna they would get rid
Speaker 2: of you if they were gonna cut you before those
Speaker 2: last eight games, because then they don't have to pay
Speaker 2: you for the last eight games.
Speaker 3: So but but after you were benched, you bit your
Speaker 3: time special teams, but you know you were not And
Speaker 3: as far as being a locker room guy, you were silence.
Speaker 3: You kept your mouth.
Speaker 2: I was silenced. Well, nobody wanted you know, all those
Speaker 2: guys were young, and they were like, hey, man, be quiet, man,
Speaker 2: because you're getting all of us in trouble, right, And
Speaker 2: that's basically what it was all about. So you got
Speaker 2: you know, why just blow up the spot, right. I
Speaker 2: wasn't going to do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but see, I think that's where they made Like
Speaker 3: in Indianapolis with Shaq Leonard, they may have been thinking,
Speaker 3: well he starts, you don't want malcontents in your life, and.
Speaker 2: Well they showed his arrogance. I guess they saw his arrogance,
Speaker 2: the fact that he showed up at the game and.
Speaker 5: He gets the stand and then would it have been
Speaker 5: a problem if he were to be here And there's
Speaker 5: the rotations with who we already have, and it's that
Speaker 5: that's necessity.
Speaker 3: Cowboys have a really good chemistry in that locker room
Speaker 3: right now, and so that's what as you're making a
Speaker 3: decision on someone like that, you have to factor that
Speaker 3: in Okay, if this guy who we don't really know,
Speaker 3: really know what he's all about on a team in
Speaker 3: a locker room and he's not getting the snaps.
Speaker 2: That I know, the Posssels asked a lot of questions
Speaker 2: from a lot of people before he decided to sign me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and even when I was I was on the team,
Speaker 2: he still was asking questions on you know, do they
Speaker 2: think how well do they think I would fit in
Speaker 2: during the season? And I didn't know that until after
Speaker 2: I retired years later.
Speaker 3: They are much like what the Cowboys I'm sure did
Speaker 3: with like t Y Hilton last year. They wanted to
Speaker 3: make sure that he's a uh and he has had
Speaker 3: a great reputation and professional guy and whatever. If but
Speaker 3: if you're not getting your snaps that you feel like
Speaker 3: you should be getting, then.
Speaker 2: Well you got to take a chance sometimes though, bit right,
Speaker 2: I mean a guy like Shaq Leonard Uh, he wouldn't
Speaker 2: act the same You would think that he wouldn't act
Speaker 2: the same way and here as he acted and ending
Speaker 2: like with me, I didn't act the same way in
Speaker 2: New York that I did in Dallas because the locker
Speaker 2: room was totally different that it wasn't fractured at all.
Speaker 3: See having said all that about Shack Leonard in this defense,
Speaker 3: the way dan Quinn employees uh with the hybrid players
Speaker 3: and stuff, they would have figured out a way to
Speaker 3: get him on I think he would have been a
Speaker 3: great I think he would have made I agree, But
Speaker 3: it's not like he You wouldn't have to he wouldn't
Speaker 3: have to have forty five or fifty snaps even to
Speaker 3: make an impact in twenty snaps. You can figure out
Speaker 3: in some packages how to get him on the field
Speaker 3: in the best way possible.
Speaker 2: Nate Newton says, you knew this before you brought him in.
Speaker 2: Why would you bring him in? Nate and Frisco, He
Speaker 2: writes this, don't take the chance. Don't even upset your
Speaker 2: locker room by bringing in a guy if you know this.
Speaker 2: So he's saying, if you know that this guy has issues,
Speaker 2: don't bring don't even bring him in. Don't mess up
Speaker 2: what you got going on.
Speaker 5: And he has the ties to Sirianni, so he he's
Speaker 5: already well versed.
Speaker 7: In the coaching there. He has that connection with them.
Speaker 7: I don't know what more.
Speaker 2: Than he's showing it in and he.
Speaker 7: Knows who here on the Cowboys who he used to well.
Speaker 4: Hooker, and I think Sirianni might have brought an Assistan
Speaker 4: or two with him.
Speaker 3: From the christ I have at their coaching I think probably.
Speaker 4: To me it is like this.
Speaker 2: You know, he wouldn't, like you said, I don't think
Speaker 2: we could really find the place for him right now quickly.
Speaker 2: I mean it may end up helping us maybe in
Speaker 2: the future, but I think these last two or three,
Speaker 2: these next two or three games, I don't know if
Speaker 2: he would really find a spot. I mean he would
Speaker 2: replace Evans, he would have to replace Evans. He's not
Speaker 2: going to replace Bell, right And like you said, if
Speaker 2: they come out with three tight ends, then we'll put
Speaker 2: him in there and see what he.
Speaker 4: Can do that get Micaeh off the line of scrimmage
Speaker 4: and put him at line back because three tight ends,
Speaker 4: they're gonna double team him. He's gonna be ineffective. But
Speaker 4: at linebacker at least he can run to the ball,
Speaker 4: which I still think they need to do more of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been pushing that for a while. Nobody listening.
Speaker 4: I can't understand.
Speaker 3: You had an opportunity. You had, Dan Quinn in the
Speaker 3: press conference, this is your chance, right you.
Speaker 2: Have the defensive court.
Speaker 4: I had them afterwards. I just said, oh, it sounds
Speaker 4: like you've done this before. Okay, Mickey, when we come back,
Speaker 4: you've got something for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear what it is next year.
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Speaker 4: So Dan Quinn pointed this out. They were asking him
Speaker 4: about comparing, you know, what Philadelphia did then and what
Speaker 4: you got to be careful of now, and he basically said,
Speaker 4: one of the things that Philadelphia does well is third down.
Speaker 4: And he was pointing out that most teams, if they're
Speaker 4: third and four, third and five, it's an automatic pass.
Speaker 4: But they'll run the ball, they'll call a run, or
Speaker 4: they'll do RPOs. And he said that when they went
Speaker 4: into that game, Philadelphia was converting fifty percent of their
Speaker 4: third downs and guess what they did against the Cowboys
Speaker 4: converted seven of fourteen fifty percent of their third downs
Speaker 4: and now throw in two of two on fourth downs,
Speaker 4: so that seven of six or nine of sixteen on
Speaker 4: third and fourth down that they converted. And he was saying,
Speaker 4: that's one of the things that we've got to be
Speaker 4: prepared for and do a better job of getting them
Speaker 4: off the field and not leaving them in fourth and one.
Speaker 2: Well, that's whether the tush push comes in. I'm sure
Speaker 2: that back to then too, not of course the fourth downs, right, several.
Speaker 4: Both for downs, yeah, and I think there was one,
Speaker 4: maybe one or two third downs that they converted like that.
Speaker 4: So I thought that was interesting that that that was
Speaker 4: one of the things that he was concentrating on on
Speaker 4: how it's more difficult to defend them on third down
Speaker 4: because he said most teams will pass past pass, right,
Speaker 4: he says, but they don't, and that makes it more
Speaker 4: difficult when you come in with your chances.
Speaker 5: To add on to that, he said, the Eagles are
Speaker 5: the best when it comes to the quarterback sneak, and
Speaker 5: that's because you have a running quarterback and a huge
Speaker 5: offensive line.
Speaker 4: Right office, Yes, I don't do it.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's the first down that makes
Speaker 2: a difference, right, first down, let them get seven, let
Speaker 2: them get it, don't let them get in that position
Speaker 2: that's a comfort zone for them. So first down is
Speaker 2: probably be extremely important.
Speaker 3: Did you see the tush push when they had the
Speaker 3: backup quarterback in at Philadelphia? Didn't quite get as much
Speaker 3: push there.
Speaker 2: So the QB makes when he went out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when Hurts went out of the game, and.
Speaker 7: So when Marcus Mariota went in and tried, yep.
Speaker 2: And he's not bad.
Speaker 3: It's for the runner, right right, It's that leg strength
Speaker 3: that Hurts has is a big part of it too.
Speaker 4: And I'll bring it up again. The San Francisco, I
Speaker 4: think it was the safety did what I said they
Speaker 4: should do on that fourth or a third and one
Speaker 4: horse caller horse calling him from behind. He just didn't get.
Speaker 3: Legal legal within the tackles, right, He's got to get
Speaker 3: back there.
Speaker 4: And because he yanked them, he pulled them back.
Speaker 2: So now, but you know they've seen that, so I'm
Speaker 2: sure they're flanked. They're going to have him flanked, ready
Speaker 2: for something over the top. No, they're looking for him
Speaker 2: to come around the side.
Speaker 4: Well, has anybody just like sold out with seven or
Speaker 4: eight defensive linemen and force them to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: No, I mean they would. They can't just throw the
Speaker 2: ball after I.
Speaker 3: Mean, that's like tug of war.
Speaker 4: You didn't put the little guys on the on the road.
Speaker 2: I mean they have to you know, he had to
Speaker 2: make the audible.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. But that didn't make them do
Speaker 4: something different.
Speaker 3: Well, if they don't substitute prior to the play, and
Speaker 3: they can basically get up their hurry up, and you don't,
Speaker 3: you don't have time.
Speaker 4: We talked about that because I remember, you know, when
Speaker 4: the Cowboys that they had basically on those third and
Speaker 4: ones or fourth and ones or whatever, they had five
Speaker 4: to six DB's in there, and it's like, maybe I
Speaker 4: should call time out and get all the Jonathan Hankins
Speaker 4: I got on the team.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're going to spend a time outright, What.
Speaker 2: He's going down the hole?
Speaker 4: Confidence depends how depends how important that play is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: really down the stretch.
Speaker 2: The goal line is obviously more important than a third
Speaker 2: of That's what I meant.
Speaker 4: On the goal line. Yeah, and you probably don't have
Speaker 4: time to get him in there, because.
Speaker 2: If you get too many big guys in there, then
Speaker 2: they're just gonna audible and spread the dB. You got
Speaker 2: too skilled guys in the backfield, so they were just
Speaker 2: audible and they'll put him up. Why I put him there,
Speaker 2: putting both on one side audible and throw some crap
Speaker 2: over there. And you got d lineman trying to cover
Speaker 2: a J. Brown.
Speaker 4: So what happens if he throws a bad pass? Because
Speaker 4: that this is working one hundred people, but bad.
Speaker 2: Pass all he ones. You're still going against the defensive line.
Speaker 4: I don't even worry about that he might fumble the
Speaker 4: snap because.
Speaker 3: You're hoping now because I have seen I have seen this.
Speaker 3: I think Kansas City did. It might have been Chris
Speaker 3: Jones are one of their other defensive linemen. They just
Speaker 3: hauled off and the heck out of one of those
Speaker 3: offensive lines.
Speaker 4: They didn't care it was a false starter.
Speaker 3: They just say, Okay, you're you're going to do this
Speaker 3: to us, You're going to take a beating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's legal in that regard. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 13: Who ever was just just hold off and just drove
Speaker 13: them back into the back. You can't hit the center
Speaker 13: and this one you can. Yeah, And Kelsey is gonna
Speaker 13: be waiting knocked the hell.
Speaker 3: Out of those offensive linemen where they don't.
Speaker 2: Want to do it anymore.
Speaker 4: I want some guys in there.
Speaker 2: You gotta hit Kelsey first. Yeah, you gotta hit Kelsey first.
Speaker 2: So you let me know how that turns out. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: he's so lowly and he's the man.
Speaker 4: And he's like to render in fifty pounds.
Speaker 2: He's smart, he's not No, he's not that big. He's
Speaker 2: not big.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: In fact, that's how he moves so well, he's you know, he's.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're right, Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean he's out in that open field, and that's
Speaker 3: what a lot of what they're doing in the run
Speaker 3: game is. They pull the center and he gets out
Speaker 3: in front of them.
Speaker 2: He's so fun to watch. Didn't Gino? Didn't Gino? He went?
Speaker 2: He didn't. He chose not to Was it Geno or
Speaker 2: was it browning? Was it browning? He chose not to
Speaker 2: go up? They went outside. I saw one quarterback.
Speaker 4: I think it was Browning.
Speaker 2: He chose not to go in. He went this way.
Speaker 2: It was that was a it was a black guy.
Speaker 4: Think or you can throw a quick pitch to somebody, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you can write next to Philly ran sweep the swift
Speaker 4: for a touchdown off that play, right, so he he he,
Speaker 4: he lines up just so is right when he snaps
Speaker 4: the ball, he kind of just hands it to him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he goes through your back door. And that's what they
Speaker 4: They ran for a touchdown the week before they play that.
Speaker 3: So ever's lining up on the edge. They got to
Speaker 3: respect the edge.
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta so what you can't stop this
Speaker 4: us make him do something else. Yeah, it was like
Speaker 4: ten yards out, so they ran for a touchdown. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: but on the goal line, say yeah, I'd make him
Speaker 4: who knows he might get in a hurry and fumble
Speaker 4: the snap or hand.
Speaker 2: It is important right down if you have to worry
Speaker 2: about all that others.
Speaker 3: You can't let him get into a third and two
Speaker 3: or fourth and one.
Speaker 4: But they seem to always do. How does that happen?
Speaker 2: By design? That's why when you have a running quarterback,
Speaker 2: that's easy to do because that's all he does. When
Speaker 2: a quarterback draw and he gets your seven yards easily.
Speaker 5: Well, all I know is today before the show, Mickey
Speaker 5: and I were listening to Nick Sirianni's press conference A
Speaker 5: little bit, and he said at the very end, they
Speaker 5: asked him about the defense and how they played with
Speaker 5: San Francisco, and he said, going into this Sunday's matchup,
Speaker 5: he's having the defense watch all of the tape, and
Speaker 5: he's watching the offensive tape. He said, I want to
Speaker 5: give them the offensive point of view. So he's going
Speaker 5: into it trying to pump up their defense as far
Speaker 5: as what they do offensively.
Speaker 2: No, the defense can't stop us. I know that much. Well.
Speaker 4: Right now, they have converted forty seven point nine percent
Speaker 4: of their third downs and seventy three point seven percent
Speaker 4: of their fourth downs fourteen of nineteen. So it doesn't
Speaker 4: say how many of those are like one yard runs.
Speaker 2: How do we count that with our offense? Right?
Speaker 4: Score points?
Speaker 2: Score points, got to score and so they nearly they
Speaker 2: have a show that they can stop out off and.
Speaker 4: They nearly scored thirty two points in that game. So
Speaker 4: I you know, to me, we should have got a pool.
Speaker 2: We should, we should, we should that we gotta get
Speaker 2: out fast, Yes, we gotta get out fast and stay
Speaker 2: stay in.
Speaker 4: Front, because if you look at what San Francisco did,
Speaker 4: they held hurts to like twenty yards rushing. I want
Speaker 4: to say seven carries.
Speaker 2: It was seven yep, So they kind of and they
Speaker 2: left their secondary exposed and they said, look, you guys
Speaker 2: are going to have to handle their wide receivers and
Speaker 2: they did pretty well. Yeah, I think he had closer
Speaker 2: three hundred rus.
Speaker 4: Passing, but to ninety eight.
Speaker 2: It wasn't as effective as like, say, that's to ninety eight, right,
Speaker 2: because that was all coming while they were trying to
Speaker 2: catch up.
Speaker 4: I mean held them to nineteen points. Well you think
Speaker 4: that was the fewest they scored all.
Speaker 2: Year, and I believe it was. And the Eagles a
Speaker 2: secondary in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: But the Eagles offense has not been clicking like it
Speaker 3: did last year. Even though Herts is in the MVP
Speaker 3: conversation so forth, it has not been clicking at the
Speaker 3: same rate as what it was last year. And a
Speaker 3: lot of that probably has to do with the injury
Speaker 3: that Hurts is dealing with, so that he's not running
Speaker 3: the ball as much.
Speaker 4: That Mighty Jets defense held him to fourteen points and
Speaker 4: then they scored thirty one, thirty eight, twenty one. The
Speaker 4: Chiefs held him to twenty one, thirty seven and then
Speaker 4: just nineteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were able to pull out a lot
Speaker 2: of those games. They were able to They were able
Speaker 2: to win those games even though the offense wasn't that effected, right,
Speaker 2: And that's why Hot is in the MVP category is
Speaker 2: because he's able to win those games. Not by himself,
Speaker 2: but he was definitely the catalyst.
Speaker 3: He's in the MVP conversation because of the tush Bush.
Speaker 3: He's got twelve rushing touchdowns. I think he's got nineteen
Speaker 3: touchdown passing touchdowns. He's got twelve rushing touchdowns. He gets
Speaker 3: him up to thirty one.
Speaker 2: It's not just the.
Speaker 4: You know, the amazing thing is is in both games
Speaker 4: against the Commanders, Washington scored thirty one points in each game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they say Philadelphia always has a hard time with Washington.
Speaker 2: They got that whole time with us. Well, they can't
Speaker 2: cover By. You expect him to have a hard time.
Speaker 2: They can't cover anyone's wide receivers. That's why they brought
Speaker 2: them by it and he still had Roby too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it hadn't improved much for them.
Speaker 4: No, I've seen him get beat Yeah, yeah, so what
Speaker 4: you what you have?
Speaker 2: Our formula is we need to keep rolling offensively and
Speaker 2: the defense they just have to play off of us
Speaker 2: just hanging there. I'm not happy with it, but they
Speaker 2: have to play off of our offense.
Speaker 3: So Savannah and Mickey, they did their pre show prep
Speaker 3: listening to Sirianni the coach and invited, Yeah, I do
Speaker 3: my pre show prep.
Speaker 7: You guys, Mike McCarthy news right, So true.
Speaker 3: That's how I found out.
Speaker 2: I passed it out to my family. I passed it
Speaker 2: on the family. What's that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Here we go?
Speaker 4: Great?
Speaker 3: Ye? But I do my pre show prep listening to
Speaker 3: the whip in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: Was it entertaining?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was entertaining, but to get a
Speaker 3: feel for what's what's wrong with the Eagles and they
Speaker 3: are not happy with what's going on with Darius Slay
Speaker 3: and James Bradberry in their secondary.
Speaker 4: Not happy. Oh how they're playing?
Speaker 2: Now they're playing Debo called them out and then came
Speaker 2: in and did what he said he was going to do. Well.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys didn't have any problems thrown against.
Speaker 2: Them, right, not at all.
Speaker 5: And we'll obviously watch out for the injury report later
Speaker 5: to come to see what Philly is going to do
Speaker 5: since they have.
Speaker 7: Zach Cunningham out as.
Speaker 3: Well linebacker linebacker who has been playing.
Speaker 7: Well, they're tight end Dallas Goddard.
Speaker 2: Goddard's been out for a while.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 3: Which game was it? Where he was?
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: Cowboy game.
Speaker 4: They're thinking maybe he might you back. I mean he's eligible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was obvious when he got hurt.
Speaker 2: Was it Bell that made the tackle?
Speaker 4: I believe so.
Speaker 2: I think it was, yeah, and he stiff arm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just on a stiff arm.
Speaker 4: And uh so let's remember the first time around, Dack
Speaker 4: threw for three hundred and thirty three yards against them,
Speaker 4: and he completed twenty nine of forty four passes. So
Speaker 4: they threw on him.
Speaker 2: The problem was a place.
Speaker 4: The fourth down play got stopped six inches, they said,
Speaker 4: and then the two point conversion.
Speaker 2: With the foot with the foot, well, I got a sneeze.
Speaker 2: So that's about time.
Speaker 7: Grab it.
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