1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome on into the Betting Pros podcast. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm your host Thomas Viola, and today we're gonna have 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: a little fun with it. We are talking about some 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: of the craziest, wackiest, most off the wall things that 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: you can bet on. I'm joined to help me get 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: through that discussion with my good friend John lu Kasik. John, 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: you are a former sportsbook manager. You've been around the block. 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: You've really been on every side of the gambling industry 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: at this point, and you are no stranger to some 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: of the crazier things that you can do in this industry, right. 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. You're You're one hundred percent correct. You've seen 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: it through the years. We've seen random things that people 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: you know, always want to bet on. You know, you 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: always get one person every couple of months that wants 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: to bet on WWWW match or or what have you. 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: Remember a couple of years ago, during the final season 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: Game of Thrones, we have people asking if they can 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: wager on Game of Thrones, and I remember I really 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: wanted to put odds up because I was a big 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 2: fan of the show. I wanted to put odds up 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: even just for the our team of purposes only just 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 2: to show them and kind of have some fun with it. 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: I was. I was turned down on that one, but 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: but yeah, there's always there's always those sorts of things, 25 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: very niche, fringe events that people want to wager. 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: I will fully confess one of the actually, the only 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: time I have placed a wager on an offshore book 28 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: was to bet on the Game of Thrones finale. 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: And what I've learned very much in that. 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Process bet the favorites because it is exactly a fair line. 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, And and the finale was ruined for me. 32 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: I think it was with about two episodes left. You 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: saw one person for those who I mean at this point, 34 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure, but it's not really. 35 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: You haven't seen the show at this point. We're spoiling 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: it here. 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: But I mean like, but yeah, the line really shifted 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: out of nowhere and it kind of had me scratching 39 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: my head a little bit. But but yeah, so kind 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: of route a little bit. 41 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know, wacky sports, like obviously there 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: are these offshore books where you can bet on almost anything. Now, granted, 43 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: we don't really want you going to offshore books. It's 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: a very dangerous prospect. Any any sort of thing like 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: betting on Game of Thrones. Your limits twenty bucks. You're 46 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: not actually getting down cold hard cash on this, But 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: with other things, buyer beware, you have no guarantees of 48 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: getting your money back. We do not in any way 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: recommend that you use any book that isn't legalized or 50 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: regulated here in America. But during the pandemic, a lot 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: of sports books had to start getting creative. Obviously, we 52 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: had the whole sports shutdown, and that meant that they 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: had to start looking elsewhere for where they could put 54 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: lines up and for what we could bet on while 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: we had nothing to bet on here. And so we 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: finally saw some of that stuff bleeding over from those 57 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: other books, from those offshore books and coming into America 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: and actually being legalized events that we could bet on. 59 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: And nothing could be possibly more emblematic of that time 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: than sitting down in oasis here in Vegas betting on 61 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Korean baseball at two in the morning, right, Yeah, And. 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun. I think that people 63 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: were just looking for anything to entertain themselves, and people 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: missed sports and they just were locked inside and it 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: was kind of like, look anything, any anything to just 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: help pass the time go by. At that point, and 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: so it made a lot of fun. It made it 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: really interesting for the bookmakers too, that definitely were not 69 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: adepts with some of these these other leagues and these 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: other sports as much. So, you know, setting the lines 71 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: was interesting. Obviously, you're not dealing with as large a pools, 72 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: so you can't necessarily take on major bets anyways, which 73 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: most people weren't really you know, doing that that anyways. 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: So it was a very interesting time there for sure, 75 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: during the pandemic. 76 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: And it really made it, like you talk about, one 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: of the biggest challenges was the fact that bookmakers all 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden had to go out and learn these 79 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: really exotic, really wacky sports and try and go, Okay, well, 80 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: I have to be an expert on this now because 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: I have to set a line for this. 82 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: And that was a crash course kind of overnight thing. 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where I think some of the copy paste, 84 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: some of some of the copy paste uh mentality probably 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: probably came in line there. And I don't think that 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: was a bad, bad philosophy to have for many of 87 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: these books. That again, you know, you're you're, you're, you're 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: like you said, you're kind of stepping uh into a 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: brand new realm. But I think that you know, it 90 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: was I think it really kind of took us to 91 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: the next iteration of the American sports books as we 92 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: started seeing you know, some of these these fringe sports 93 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: that we would have never really seen, you know, legalized 94 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: or really thought of before in Nevada and and they 95 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: were available for for wagers. And I think that it 96 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: really kind of it really kind of opened the floodgates 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: to to taking on, you know, brand new types of 98 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: wagers in the sporting world. 99 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: And one of the sports that really did catch on 100 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: and actually has still found the tiny niche market still 101 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: here in the US, and you can actually still find 102 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: some odds on it and it's it's growing, it's even 103 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: growing in the DFS community is esports. And that's something 104 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: that you and I were both very interested in. My 105 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: pandemic job was working as a host in an esports arena, 106 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: and I know you were also very big on the train. 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: It's something the books saw actual handle on, like people 108 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: are betting on competitive gaming now. 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, and not to self promote, I mean that was 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: my master's thesis was on you know, gambling and esports, 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: and I mean the holy sports I mean topic. I 112 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: mean it's something you could spend hours days talking about 113 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: kind of how we got here. And you know, you 114 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: go back to about twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, is you 115 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: know you started seeing you know, one of the big 116 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: questions we saw are in the casino industry in general 117 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: was millennials are now they now have money, and we're 118 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: afraid they're not going to come into into casinos anymore 119 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: because they're too busy playing video games and they're not 120 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: interested in these traditional games right for these casino games. 121 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: And so the idea was to basically bridge that gap 122 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: in some way by by taking video games, the competitive 123 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: video game world, and making it so people could could 124 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: wager on them. And there were a lot of people 125 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: that really kind of put their name at stake saying 126 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: this is gonna be the big thing. And we look 127 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: at the numbers of people watching League Legend Championships, the 128 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: Dote International, and these far dwarf the Super Bowl numbers. Therefore, 129 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: with all these numbers dwarfing super Bowl numbers, well, it's 130 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: only it only makes sense that there's gonna be more 131 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: wagers on this than there's going to be in football. 132 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: And a lot of us were saying, well, let's let's 133 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: kind of tap tap the brakes here a little bit 134 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: here and not get too far ahead of ourselves. But 135 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: but yeah, so this was something that is going been 136 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: going on for many years and and in some ways 137 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: they there were there were a lot of people that 138 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: thought Vegas was going to be this natural capital for esports. 139 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: And I don't know if that necessarily happened for a 140 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: variety of reasons, but but yeah, and I think that, 141 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: you know, with these sports, people thought that it was 142 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: gonna it was gonna blow up, and they thought the 143 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: pandemic was just gonna just just set it alight and 144 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: it was going to be this next big thing. I 145 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: personally am in the camp, and I think it's going 146 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: to be a niche sport that people are betting on. 147 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: But I think it has legs. I think it's definitely 148 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: has longevity. I mean, there's a lot of people that 149 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: are huge fans of it, that love it. But you know, 150 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: whether or not it's going to crack the top three 151 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: wagerable categories out there in the sports betting world, I 152 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: don't think that's happening anytime soon. 153 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you there, it's to me. 154 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: We heard a lot of people talking about it, and 155 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: as someone who was in that industry for both of us, 156 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: we heard so many people saying, Oh, it's the next 157 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: big thing. 158 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: It's the next big thing. It's gonna be bigger than sports. 159 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: Not quite. But that doesn't mean that it still can't 160 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: be a thing. It can still be something that finds 161 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: itself a really good home and gets a lot of 162 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: that traction and even has something that betters can find 163 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: an edge in, because let's face it, a lot of 164 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: bookmakers aren't paying much attention to it either. And that's 165 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: one thing that we've preached so many times on this show. 166 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: If you want to actually be betting with an age, 167 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: your best way to do that is find a niche 168 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: market where you might know more than the books, and 169 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: esports can be one of those things. 170 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: Esports says, But again we go back to the same problem, 171 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: which is you know you're not gonna be able to 172 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: get down a big wager. I mean, I would be 173 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: surprised if I mean maybe not, but I mean i'd 174 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: be surprised if places are taking a dime on some 175 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: of these some of these events, even some of the 176 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: bigger ones, but no, you're absolutely right. And I think 177 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: that if you know, for the person who's just kind 178 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: of a casual better wants to not lose money in 179 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: the long run. 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And 194 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: I think one of the wackiest things in kind of 195 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: the marriage of esports and normal sports that we saw 196 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: during the pandemic and really made for a wow what 197 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: kind of moment are we in kind of feeling was 198 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: I racing and the fact that you had literally all 199 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: of the guys from NASCAR who for some reason couldn't 200 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: race during the pandemic because I guess COVID restrictions in 201 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: your cars, you know, a capassing car to car. 202 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: But I digress. 203 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: They just sat them down in simulators and actually said, okay, 204 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: here we go, we're doing an eye circuit now. And 205 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: that was something that actually found a lot of decent traction, 206 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: right yeah. 207 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: I mean you saw people interested in it. I don't 208 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: think it really took a ton of handle again, and 209 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: I mean, truth be told, I only watched a couple myself. 210 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting fast. I can't say it 211 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: really gripped me, uh, you know, as much as some 212 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: other sports do. But but no, one hundred percent. I 213 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: think you know, you brought up the point when we 214 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: first started talking here, which is the ability to adapt 215 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: right to your to your surroundings and just just finding 216 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: a way to make it work to give people, you know, 217 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: whether it's a fraction of the experience that they were 218 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: getting in the traditional sport, you know, blended with some 219 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: new form of technology or some innovation, some iteration with that. Sure, 220 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: I'm all for it. I love it. I think me personally, 221 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: my philosophy has always been the more things that the 222 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: the the betorn can bet on, the better. As long 223 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: as there's as long as we have you know, you know, 224 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: integrity in place. You know, there's commissions overseeing these the 225 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: sports and these events, and as long as that that's 226 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: all there, and as long as the bookmakers are doing 227 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: their and I know there's probably a lot of bookmakers 228 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: out there that are like, well, we don't need another 229 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: thing to add to the menu which we don't know, 230 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: and and whatnot. But I think for the the consumer, 231 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: I mean, the more the better. 232 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, real quick, guys, if you want 233 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: to bet on some actual NASCAR or learn how, check 234 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: out our last episode where I sat down with Zach White, 235 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: a professional gambler, to talk all about everything you need 236 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: to know in order to bet on the nascars. 237 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: But right now, you know, you. 238 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: Talked about regulatory bodies and the fact that you have 239 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: to be able, you have to be able to have 240 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: some degree of oversight, and there has to be some 241 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: element of chance and randomness to these events. 242 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: But some things actually don't have that. 243 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: There's a human element sometimes and yeah, you're not gonna 244 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: be able to go into a sports book and like 245 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: no one's going to be putting up a line on 246 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: when your buddy's relationship is going to end. 247 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: Or something like that. 248 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: But you can bet now in some states on the 249 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: oscars and that is something that's kind of uniquely drawing 250 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: this new realm into effect with betting, because it's something 251 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: that there's a definitive result that is known to a 252 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: small group of people beforehand. Someone out there knows who 253 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: is going to win Best Picture before it's announced on 254 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: screen there. And yet in a couple of states now 255 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: it's actually something you can bet on, and that's actually 256 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: been a really big deal. 257 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I was very surprised that this this past 258 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: I believe I believe New Jersey was the first state 259 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: that that had this. And I think like any sort 260 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: of judged event, you know, there's always it's kind of 261 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: tricky there, you know, like and it's not only a 262 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: judged events in like a sport. I mean you're talking 263 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: about something with a predetermined outcome that is known out there. 264 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember it was twenty sixteen. I was 265 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: I get my I'm getting my year's mixed upteen Summer Olympics, 266 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: I believe, and I remember that, you know, during the 267 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: summer months, sports books are always slow, and so the 268 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: books really wanted the books in Nevada wanted h you know, 269 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 2: passage for it for the Olympics if you couldn't previously 270 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: wager on. And the idea was just to get like 271 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: basketball passes because they thought, okay, well basketball it's people 272 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: are going to be a basketball that's going to be it. 273 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: And they thought there was no chance of any of 274 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: these sort of judged events, some of the the diving 275 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: events and whatnot. And Nevada, the the the gaming Control 276 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: Board could kind of just swept like they passed everything, 277 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: and so they're able to take wagers on quite a 278 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: few events that I think people were very surprised on 279 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: surprised about. Yeah, just my personal opinion, any any sort 280 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: of judge devent. I mean, it's one thing, but you're 281 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: talking about something with a predetermined outcome that that's when 282 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: it's throw off. I mean, even like you talk about, 283 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: you know, you can wager on wwe I know, and 284 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: some off for books too, and it's just I don't know, 285 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: I get that that that stuff just as for coming 286 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: from the bookmaker standpoint. So if I hadn't worked in 287 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: a casino before, I'd say, yeah, that's great, that's awesome, 288 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: that's really cool. But you know, coming from the bookmaker's side, 289 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: or even more so from the side of the regulator, 290 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: where you know, they have to basically you know, have 291 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: oversight and they're you know, they're they're making sure they're 292 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: protecting the integrity and they're they're protecting both the consumer 293 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: and the operator. I mean that that that's kind of 294 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: a hairy situation. 295 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: Guys, real quick. 296 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: Remember when you're looking for free picks and sports betting advice, 297 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: bettingpros dot com has you covered with tips from over 298 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty experts to make it easy for 299 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: you to cash out. Download the app to get sports 300 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: betting alerts. 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Is why you can't 311 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: bet on elections, although that's not, you know, a known outcome, 312 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: but it's something that we've wanted to get and haven't 313 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: been able to get for a very long time in 314 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: the US. 315 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: But betting on the Olympics, that is one. 316 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: Of my absolute favorite Djen things that we can do 317 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: out there, especially you know in the wintertime. Now that 318 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: we have legal Olympic betting, it means that we can 319 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: bet on curling, and that is my absolute favorite thing 320 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: to do come Olympics time, is taking some curling curling 321 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: action there, because why not, we're having some fun with it. 322 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: What's your favorite Olympic bet? 323 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: Fair little bit bet? I'm there with you on I 324 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: got I wish I had something else, but no, my 325 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: mind always goes a curling. It's just so fun and 326 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: it's one of those sports that like, I don't know, 327 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: it's almost like you don't even like need to know 328 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: kind of what's going on. You just you just have 329 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: a general idea of what it is. I think from 330 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: the casual person, you know, you have a general idea 331 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: of what it is you're rooting for, and it's just 332 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: there's something there's that's very that's very fun about it. 333 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: There's something there there's a high level of suspense with 334 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: like every play, like I mean, every every sweep. I mean, 335 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: it's just I don't know, it's it's very fascinating, it's 336 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: it's very interesting. So I'm right there with you on that. 337 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Olympics are the perfect time for 338 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: some of these absolutely wacky events. It's every four years, 339 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: really every two that we get to sit down and 340 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: we're betting on stuff that we have absolutely no idea 341 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. 342 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: We don't care for three and a half years, and then. 343 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: It comes around and we're going, Okay, who's gonna win 344 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: the fifteen hundred meter speedskating? Who's winning the fast walking 345 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: competition this year? That's one of my most fun, wacky 346 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: sports things to do. It's always fun d jenning out 347 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: over the summer or winter. 348 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if there's a country you like, you know, 349 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm Polish American, so just bet on Poland for something. 350 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: Or if there's like or if there's a person you 351 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: might follow on Instagram because they're just like they're a 352 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: fun follow, Like, oh yeah, I like that. I'll you know, 353 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: bet on them, just put twenty bucks on them just 354 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, sweat them. And I don't 355 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: know that there's something that's definitely kind of kind of 356 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: fun about that, and like you said, it feels very 357 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: low stakes in general, and you kind of a lot 358 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: of times you don't know really who you're betting on, 359 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: So why not exactly. 360 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: But one of my other favorites is this great story 361 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: that we have right now of Russian table tennis because 362 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: that was something that kind of got started during it's 363 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: an Olympic sport, believe it or not, you can bet 364 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: on it during the Olympics. But it's actually grown to 365 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: the point where we've had people betting on these games 366 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: where there's just some company in Russia that just has 367 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: people in rooms playing games against each other blanding lines. 368 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's absolutely ridiculous. 369 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember that that was the first one 370 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 2: that that always came up. And you know, I remember 371 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: so my previous role with with I G T. When 372 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: we'd go up and and we would you know, work with, 373 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: you know, prospective clients that were looking to build out 374 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: sports books or whatever. You know, we'd always talk about 375 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: what what events they wanted to take, the limits, things 376 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: like that, and everyone always reft. Everyone always referenced like, well, 377 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: we're not going to take that Russian table ten every 378 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: single every single person, and U as geez, like it's 379 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: the stuff's really it's really stuck. And and I think 380 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: it's become part of like just the sports betting culture 381 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 2: and the the sports betting vernacular. I just you know, 382 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: in that, in that in that in that world. So yeah, 383 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: and I remember there was there was there was a 384 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: there was somebody I can remember if it was like 385 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: a ten or twelveeen parlay. Somebody ran hit with one 386 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: of the books here in Nevada. And you know, I 387 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: got cause a lot of people that kind of look 388 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: into it and whatnot. And of course I've go to 389 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: the book maker standpoint, which is never turned down an 390 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: eighteen tenteen part. They just never just take it. 391 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah you're you're most like, yeah, but but. 392 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: To your point, though, I think that was part of 393 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: the concern was Okay, somebody's gonna have this extremely long 394 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: shot Arlay and here we have this sport where we 395 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: don't know this league and we don't know what sort 396 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: of oversight's going on. And I mean that was that 397 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: was that was the issue there. 398 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah. 399 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're willing to get down money 400 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: and you're known to a book, a lot of times 401 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: they will open up some things to you. They if 402 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: you ask them to set a line on something, you 403 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: have a good chance to get it, assuming that you 404 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: already have a relationship with that book. I know one 405 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: story from down at South Point, Vinnie Maula there told 406 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: me about a time when some random guy walks in 407 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: says he wants to get down like one hundred thousand 408 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: dollars or something on a polo match. 409 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: Not water polout. Actual horse pulled up. Okay, and they go, 410 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 3: does he have a player's card? Nope, we do we 411 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: know he is. Nope. Okay, let's do some digging here 412 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: and a quick Google search. I later found out he 413 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: owned one of the teams that was in it, and 414 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: they'd just go, no, no, have a good day, sir. 415 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: So there are some limits to that whackiness. 416 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean a couple examples that come to mind 417 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: for me is you know, we had somebody who was 418 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: when I was a Caesars, he was he was really sharp, 419 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: Oh he was. He was really sharp with like boxing 420 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: and combat sports. And he would occasionally ask and he 421 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: would get down a lot of money, and he would 422 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: occasionally ask for fights where there just wasn't even a 423 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: line set yet, and he wanted us to originate the line. 424 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: And we're just like, no, no, where, No, I can 425 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: do that. But you know, if you come from one 426 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 2: of these, you know, if you come from an operator, 427 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: it's not going to be a smaller one necessarily. But 428 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: if you come from one of the larger ones, and 429 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: if you have somebody who they might bet twenty thousand 430 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: dollars a hand in back rock, you know, they might. 431 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: They're they're worth they might be worth a couple of 432 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: million a year in the crowd table, whatever it might be. 433 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: And if they want to put fifty grand on some 434 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: some random event, Yeah, a lot of times, you know, 435 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: you you you can make an exception. I mean you 436 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: have to, you know, use your use your instinct there, 437 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: you have to, you know, uh, you know, with with 438 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: Vinnie's case, sure, I'm sure if this was somebody that 439 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: they knew, if that was somebody that played table games 440 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: four times a week and they just randomly like that. 441 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: You know, if that relationship is established, that conversation could 442 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: go a little bit different. Then if it's somebody that 443 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: doesn't have a players card, who's never played there before, 444 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: that owns one of the you know, horses or teams 445 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: or whatnot. 446 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Want to track all of your wagers in one place, 447 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: check out the Betting Pros Picktracker at bettingpros dot com 448 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: slash pick tracking. It syncs up with your sports books 449 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: to tally which picks hit, which miss, and gives you 450 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: a live look at what the public is doing. So 451 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: you can use real time tracking to determine which place 452 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: to make and which to fade. 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Uh. 462 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 2: And and and look, I mean just to keep going back. 463 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean this is always this is always a concern 464 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 2: when you start, you know, taking wagers on some of 465 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: these leagues, these these lesser known leagues, and and and whatnot. Uh, 466 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: the ghost matches and you know, these sort of incidents 467 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: and you see these pop up once in a while. Uh. 468 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: And I mean to to kind of to to just 469 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: fool like that many people is uh, was very surprising 470 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: to see. But there are other people I just kind of, 471 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: i'm sure just scratch your heads and said, yeah, this 472 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: is this is why, this is why we didn't want 473 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: sports betting in this state, or we didn't want this. 474 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: We didn't want you know, so there's always gonna you know, 475 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure they're a lot of people that we were 476 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: saying that as well. 477 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: But stuff like that, you know, that doesn't happen here 478 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: in the US, where we have a lot of heavy regulation. 479 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: Everything is really kept on top of. Even the people 480 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: that go, oh, you know this is this is fixed 481 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: or the NFL is fixing this game. 482 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: No, they're not. 483 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: And one of the one of the ironies there is 484 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: that sports betting is actually what really does help with 485 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: making sure the events aren't fixed. They're one of the 486 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: first people to sound the alarm and say, hey, something's 487 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: going on here. We're getting a lot of bets on 488 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: this game that aren't adding up that it's raising some 489 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: red flags. For example, how they figured out the Arizona 490 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: State point shaving scandal. That was a classic example of 491 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: sports books being the one to raise the alarm. 492 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you were going to say, you have 493 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: to break it, break some megaivakan obles. I was like, oh, topic, 494 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: please don't, please, don't go there. But but no, uh no, 495 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: you're you. I mean this it's it's a very regulated industry. 496 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: I think that. I think that's a bit of a 497 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: misconception among the general public, which is which is under 498 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: understand I mean, you know, I totally get that, but 499 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: it is, it is very regulated. There were there are 500 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: tons of concerns. I mean, each one of these leagues, 501 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: each one of these sports, each one of these types 502 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: of vets I mean has to get essentially you know, 503 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: vetted and by by by state gaming commission or Tribal 504 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: Gaming Commission and you know, to to be allowed to 505 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, to be wagered on and and and whatnot. 506 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that you know, those sorts of leagues, 507 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: you know, you're not going to really see see action 508 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: on here. 509 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: Uh in general, John, thank you so much for joining 510 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: me here today. It has been an absolute pleasure chatting 511 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: with you. I'll affward to meeting up again real soon, 512 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: which I'm sure that we will. But in the meantime, 513 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: i'd say, normally, if people want to follow you on 514 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: social media, where should they go? But you're not too 515 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: big on the social media space, so I'll ask you, 516 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: is there anything that you want to plug or give 517 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: a shout out to before we head out here? 518 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: I wish I did. You're putting me on the spot. Yeah. 519 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: My my Instagram is just just a food blog. Sure, 520 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: people can follow it a fan I want to. It's uh, 521 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: it's l u k A l u k A nine 522 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: one Luca Luca nine one six if you just want 523 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 2: to see some of the restaurants I go to. But 524 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: that are some of the recipes I cook. But that's 525 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: about it. That's that that That's kind of what was 526 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: taking up my summer. I'm here. I'm more than happy 527 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: about that. 528 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: Real geez moving silence like lasagna and lu K a sik, 529 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: My friend, it has been an absolute pleasure having you 530 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: on here today. 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