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Speaker 1: a fifty ESP in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo

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Speaker 1: Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. Alright, let's do alive on a

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Speaker 1: Tuesday cutdown day edition of Cleveland Browns Daily. I am

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Speaker 1: merely Bo. He is the great Z. Yesterday we mapped

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Speaker 1: out fifty three. I should say you did, and I

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Speaker 1: close we were to that fifty three that we projected yesterday,

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Speaker 1: it's worth noting too that an initial fifty three is

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Speaker 1: not a final fifty three. In fact, you could see

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Speaker 1: a lot of player movement tomorrow today. As this goes along,

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be some waiver pickups that will go tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You think you make an initial fifty three and then

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Speaker 1: tomorrow you're out, So those type of things are going

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Speaker 1: you know, the final fifty three kind of shake itself out,

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Speaker 1: all right, in terms of what we know right now

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Speaker 1: based on the reporting that is out, I'm sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots have informed veteran cornerback Terrence Money Mitchell of

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Speaker 1: their intention to release him by today's deadline. According to

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Speaker 1: a source, sad, come home, come home, money, come home,

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Speaker 1: come home money. We got rallies for you. Money, Mitch.

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Speaker 1: You've imagine him. That's not that much of it, like

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Speaker 1: him with Belichick. Never seems like that to me. Seemed

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Speaker 1: in terms of what's being reported right now, Jake Trotter

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Speaker 1: the outside looking in. He wasn't on our our sheet yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That would be a surprise if that is the way

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Speaker 1: and and he obviously had a special place here. Um.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely to create Alan the linebacker as well schefter with

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Speaker 1: he also went on and said, no, they did not

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Speaker 1: need They're not gonna need any help. If you're not,

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Speaker 1: then you will get beat by seventeen. I mean, my god,

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Speaker 1: my my little dudes like six, eight and ten are

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Speaker 1: motivated to work, jacked up to play him the din

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Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoon, you know what I mean, Like it's

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl to them. So that if you play

431
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Speaker 1: the sport and you're a man in the arena, why

432
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Speaker 1: do you bulletin board material just seems nonsensical to me

433
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Speaker 1: that you would need it. You don't need it. It

434
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Speaker 1: can definitely be like a little you know, it goes

435
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Speaker 1: it proves you, I think what it does. It proves

436
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Speaker 1: your point that don't worry so much about about it,

437
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Speaker 1: Like it's not gonna make that big of a difference.

438
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Speaker 1: Like I go back to and this drove my dad crazy,

439
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Speaker 1: but you know, t o going and on the Star

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Speaker 1: and then he gets hit by Roy Williams, Like that's great,

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Speaker 1: it's awesome. All of it was great his but he

442
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Speaker 1: did great if you know what't like it stopped me

443
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Speaker 1: from scoring. And what Roy Williams did also great. And

444
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Speaker 1: then in wrestling you have a pull apart brawl security

445
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Speaker 1: be on, I'm still gonna get you, and then somebody

446
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Speaker 1: break free to brawl a little more. Lah Like that's great,

447
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Speaker 1: there's no problem. Here's the thing that's hard, and the

448
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Speaker 1: sport is such a and I wish actually now that

449
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Speaker 1: we're on this down this random tangent that we had

450
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Speaker 1: to hop on today because I've been so privileged to

451
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Speaker 1: be on the sidelines for eight years and one of

452
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Speaker 1: the things that I enjoy the most after a game

453
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Speaker 1: is walking onto the field, and you'd see the guys

454
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Speaker 1: who have been with the Browns, and there's typically been

455
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Speaker 1: a lot of Browns players and coaches that I've seen

456
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Speaker 1: who are still in the league in other places. But

457
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Speaker 1: it really is a brotherhood and they all know that,

458
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Speaker 1: so like to play a little bit into the game

459
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Speaker 1: or the showmanship or at the trash talk. And there

460
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Speaker 1: it will be times where people genuinely don't like one another.

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Speaker 1: Do you see that in the NBA? You know, Pat

462
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Speaker 1: Beverley will get under somebody's skin and or Marcus Smart

463
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Speaker 1: and there'll be some real you know, we don't like

464
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Speaker 1: each other trashic. But that's okay too. It's all right.

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Speaker 1: Like we grew up in an era with the Celtics

466
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Speaker 1: and the Lakers. They hated each other, They detected each other, punching,

467
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Speaker 1: fighting them being close and then fighting Burt. I mean

468
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Speaker 1: like it was elite players that had that. It was unbelievable.

469
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Speaker 1: And Larry Bird and Dr J fought on the court,

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Speaker 1: fist fight, fist fight. It's all right. I have a

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Speaker 1: little emotion from time to time. By the way, speaking

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Speaker 1: of the wrestling, I'm not sure that we can that

473
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Speaker 1: it's getting a little Racy on the raw for the kids. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 1: triple it's been amped up a little bit. But I

475
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Speaker 1: was watching a little last Sinus, you know what, But

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Speaker 1: I think, is this for NBC? Yeah, for NBC. He's ready,

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Speaker 1: He's ready. But that's a great Last night they featured

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Speaker 1: the women's tag team tournament in the main event of Raw.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice like that's it was a nice A

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Speaker 1: lot of the things happened, and I was like, I think,

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Speaker 1: let's let's go back to watching thirty. Let's find something

482
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Speaker 1: there that we can circle. Um, all right, we'll go

483
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Speaker 1: around the NFL and and hopefully we'll have our official

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Speaker 1: fifty three by the time we're done with the show here.

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Speaker 1: That would be nice to be able to have that.

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Speaker 1: But I think the big the big differences here from

487
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Speaker 1: yesterday's projections from Z and the realities are instead of three,

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Speaker 1: tight ends feels like two instead of nine, offensive lineman

489
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Speaker 1: feels like ten. Defensive end instead of five, It probably

490
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Speaker 1: will be six in corner instead of six, it will

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Speaker 1: be five. So other than that, it feels like it

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Speaker 1: was at onety three, which is a very good Now,

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Speaker 1: would Page will be happy with you on at one

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Speaker 1: fifty three? Yeah's alday, that's a soliday. He'd take that.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to know the ones you got wrong? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I think I have good like this would be

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Speaker 1: one where that a d A if it's no, because

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Speaker 1: I think what I would have here is you know,

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Speaker 1: like sometimes in a math problem, for example, if you

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Speaker 1: ended up with the wrong answer, but the work was right,

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Speaker 1: like my I've conceptually I was correct correct, it just

502
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Speaker 1: was against a puzzle piece and the puzzles they just

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Speaker 1: were here instead of here. You know, I like it.

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Speaker 1: All right. We'll go around the league, including this deal.

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Speaker 1: We can't wait to hear the boots in the ground

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Speaker 1: report on uh on the Garoppolo deal from from not Pedro.

507
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be classic. Will go around the league as well.

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Speaker 1: g sticking around on a contract renegotiation. Yea, how about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it happened last night. Yeah. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: wanted number one multiple things here. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: wanted to send him to Seattle, which really was the

529
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Speaker 1: only place that kind of made sense at this point. No,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't know. Seattle didn't want him, and he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Seattle is tanking. They don't want. I feel like you're right,

532
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Speaker 1: and they didn't want to. If you have Geno Smith

533
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Speaker 1: Andrew Lock and you're starting Gino Smith at thirty one,

534
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Speaker 1: you're not trying. And that's so okay because I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get a good quarterback in the draft. I

536
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Speaker 1: get it. The plan makes sense. They've won a lot there.

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Speaker 1: There isn't a dance partner for him out there. Yep.

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00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: That's the real thing, unless he wants to go somewhere

539
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Speaker 1: and back up an established guy, which he probably doesn't. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think that what they decided was two Number one,

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Speaker 1: keep Jimmy here because Trey Lance has been up and down.

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Speaker 1: Number two, it is important to have a good backup

543
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, and especially with Trey Lance, who's

544
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Speaker 1: gonna win with his legs as well as his arm.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what they're gonna do. And my dad

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Speaker 1: immediately nerd. They must be panicking about Lance, That's what

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Speaker 1: Peter said. I said, you know, maybe, but I also

548
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Speaker 1: think that they probably as opposed to just cutting him.

549
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Speaker 1: He's still a guy that you know, you can go

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl with, so in the event that

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Speaker 1: you need him to play quarterback, your season is far

552
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Speaker 1: from lost. That's what I thought. I mean, that's kind

553
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: of just the way that I see it. He took

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Speaker 1: a big pay cut, he has a chance if he

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Speaker 1: has to play and play well he can earn I

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Speaker 1: think up to sixteen and a half. And I think

557
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: it's just that simple. Two things jump out to me.

558
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Speaker 1: Um One. I mean, they have a very strong culture

559
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: in leadership there, so that helps you pull this off.

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00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: It will all be tested by this because if Lance

561
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Speaker 1: struggles in your Nick Bosa or Deebo Samuel and you go,

562
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: wait a second, that guy helped us go to Green

563
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: Bay and win that guy quarterback in a Super Bowl. Meantime,

564
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with this rookie who can't read a defense properly.

565
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: So Kyle is going to have to manage that. Now

566
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Speaker 1: he's not somebody who shy of managing things, but that

567
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: could be a real hurdle that they could have to

568
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Speaker 1: get over with their The other part of it is

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Speaker 1: everything that I've read, whether it's Peter King or anybody

570
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Speaker 1: else to do a camp tour, has been that they've

571
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Speaker 1: basically totally been divorced. He's been off on his own,

572
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Speaker 1: on his own. You talked about this yesterd yesterday on

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Speaker 1: his own, like, he doesn't call me a goal. So

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Speaker 1: now of a sudden he's going to comb ingle. That's

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Speaker 1: going to be a very very strange thing as well.

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Speaker 1: The third thing about this is the bonus three if

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Speaker 1: you will, is if there's an injury. Now they're in

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Speaker 1: the catbird seat on a trade number one, yes, catbird

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Speaker 1: seat number two. They're basically paying a guy who is very,

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Speaker 1: very good six and a half million dollars. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not a it's a great deal for them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's also the other part of it is, like you said,

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Speaker 1: like people say, well, you know why even like with

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Speaker 1: Baker here it had with Watson, like you have to

585
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Speaker 1: know humans personalities. Jimmy Garoppolo has done this before with Brady.

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00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: He probably don't like it, but he'll be a pro

587
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: and he'll handle his business and be the backup until

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Speaker 1: opportunity presents or until there's an opportunity around the league

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Speaker 1: where he can go be a starter again. So that's

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Speaker 1: part of it too. If Kyle can manage the first

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Speaker 1: thing I talked about, then it's safe pal and I

592
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Speaker 1: think he can. I think he can. And now they

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Speaker 1: have the pressure on Lance though for sure, for sure,

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Speaker 1: like it will be, you've got to deliver. You'll feel it,

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Speaker 1: he'll feel it. You're gonna see him. Yeah, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be there. The guy that the last two full seasons,

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Speaker 1: he's played Super Bowl appearance, NFC Championship appearance, the end

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Speaker 1: game winning drive against the Rams to get into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: game winning drive to beat the Bengals, who were Those

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Speaker 1: are the two Super Bowl teams. He beat both of

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Speaker 1: them with game winning drives in the last quarter of

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Speaker 1: the season when it mattered. Yeah, it definitely amps it

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Speaker 1: up on him, There's no doubt. But it's a I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're the if you're a forty Niners fan, this

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00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: is a great thing for you. It's an incredible insurance policy.

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Speaker 1: It's the best. It puts him in a great spot,

607
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: it's the best. So with that, with the quarterback situation

608
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: is kind of being handled around the league. Seattle, Atlanta, Houston,

609
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Speaker 1: the race for number one. Houston is gonna have the

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Speaker 1: toughest road to those because of how weak that division is.

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Speaker 1: The ANC South is not telling you they like Davis Mills.

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Speaker 1: Nonsense to us to in a certain extent, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you a certain extent, like if they were in position,

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Speaker 1: So you saying, are you suggesting they like them so

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Speaker 1: much that if they went two? And I understand that,

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Speaker 1: but if they went two in fifteen. They wouldn't be like, no, no,

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Speaker 1: c J. S, We're gonna go David, They're not that

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Speaker 1: that would be proof that perhaps their current infatuation was misguided,

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Speaker 1: miss guided, which could probably be said about a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that organization has done in the last five

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Speaker 1: six years. Um in Atlanta, I mean Atlanta and Seattle

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Speaker 1: are the two most obvious. Like, let's handicap ourselves a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Atlanta is set up for a perfectly they

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Speaker 1: have Drake London and uh Kyle Pitts. Ridley's out this

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00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: year suspended. You go with Mariota for the year, put

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Speaker 1: yourself in a position to draft near the top, and

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Speaker 1: they're in a pretty good spot immediately. What's crazy about

628
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Speaker 1: it is Seattle and Atlanta. If those are the two

629
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Speaker 1: that pick at the top, both of those are incredible

630
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Speaker 1: landing spots for Bryce Young c J. Stroudana weapons absolutely yeah,

631
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Speaker 1: very very different than the situation Fields was in in Chicago.

632
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: Circule absolutely and that he still finds himself in. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

633
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: it absolutely is. Other things around the league. I mentioned

634
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Speaker 1: the O. J. Howard released by the Bills from her

635
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Speaker 1: first round pick out of Alabama was in Tampa for

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Speaker 1: his entire career and then was in camp with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: He is out or old buddy Josh Gordon cut by

638
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs as well for former Browns Josh Gordon,

639
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, Money, Mitch Travon, Cole, Philip Lindsay cut by

640
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: the Colts as well. Sony Michelle cut by the Dolphins.

641
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: He's really had a precipitous fall. Gosh a mighty Belichick,

642
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle over Nick Chubb. He actually had a couple

643
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: of decent seasons for them too, which is wild. And

644
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: then just that's it, see you later, thanks for coming.

645
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: What do you think his best season with the Patriots

646
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: was yards? Yeah, he had nine first two he said

647
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: last year he actually had eight forty five yards and

648
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: four touchdowns for the Rams, which I would not have

649
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: had in seventeen games, but only seven star They had

650
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: Cam Akers and Henderson. Akers went out early, right, and

651
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: then Henderson went out during the season. His best year

652
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: there was nine, twelve and seven, but his his in

653
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen when they win a super Bowl

654
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: in that playoff run. So he was good in the

655
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: playoff run. I remember that seventy one carries three thirty

656
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: six yards, six touchdowns, averaged a hundred and twelve yards

657
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: rushing a game five yards a carry, and they won

658
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Yeah, you wonder what happened? Where does

659
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: it between that and the two thousand nineteen season for him,

660
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: Ravens playing a side running back Kenyan Drake Penning a

661
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: physical after being cut by the Raiders last week. Uh.

662
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: In addition to that, we mentioned Leavisca Chennault going to

663
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Panthers are all in now on matt Rule

664
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: and Baker and all of it feels like for this

665
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: year at least they're completed. They're trying to win right now.

666
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: For him. The Saints trader you mentioned this, the Saint

667
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: trading defensive back Chauncey Gardner Johnson to the Eagles per

668
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: rap Report and Pella Sorrow as well, Broncos trading linebacker

669
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: Like Read to the Steelers for late draft pick compensation

670
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: per Adam Schefter. So those are just some of the

671
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: things that are out there from a from a notable

672
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: roster move standpoint. The notable ones are notable, no doubt,

673
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: no doubt. And this is a tough day. There are

674
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people whose dreams come to an end.

675
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: Now a lot will be invited back onto practice squads

676
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: around the league. Some will end up on other teams.

677
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: But when you think of the chances of being picked up,

678
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: I'll remind people again. So nine guys roughly are cut today.

679
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: Twenty seven of them were claimed off of waivers last year.

680
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: So gods are not great that that is going to

681
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: be somebody's path. And you know, for the guys that

682
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: are guy fifty two fifty three, it's a sleepless night.

683
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: There's a lot of elation, but there's also some trepidation

684
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: that is it's still going to be that way tomorrow.

685
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: How do they play it tonight on Hard Knocks because

686
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: it's happening now, So do they get that because the

687
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: last episode of Hard Knocks always used to be the

688
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 1: cutdown episode. Right now you think they're shooting right now? Yeah,

689
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: this is the second year of this. The Lions, like

690
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: the Lions probably could have helped them, you know, done

691
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: a lot of this yesterday or this morning, you know

692
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, there's no benefits. I can't remember Hard

693
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Knocks last year with Dallas if they showed the cut

694
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: down in the final episode or not last year in Dallas.

695
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: They spent so much time with Jara and Dak and Zeke.

696
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember like the guys, No, this one is yeah,

697
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: But in the old days, you'd get like a cut

698
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: down on a Saturday, so you'd have those days to

699
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: produce it. You have a little bit of time, all right.

700
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hour, John Hanson

701
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: will join us Serious X and Fantasy get you set

702
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: for your draft. This is my favorite fantasy draft weekend

703
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: is This weekend is really the perfect weekend for it.

704
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: I think I'm doing mine on Monday night nine o'clock,

705
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: which I'm a big, big fan of that. We'll keep

706
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: you updated on the roster movement that could happen. In

707
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: addition to that, Jake Trotter at two thirty he listened

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Speaker 1: club for Dogs, and at least for now we know

715
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: the fifty three guys you're going to be cheering for. Yeah,

716
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: so the Browns fifty three is an initial official and

717
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: so we'll go quarterbacks to jacoble Brisette, Josh Dobbs. Running

718
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: Backs they say five they have Demetric Felton. Listen of

719
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: the running back, even though he's played wide receiver, I'll

720
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: call him the receiver. Running Backs Nick Chubb, Cream Hunt,

721
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: Dernest Johnson and Jerome Ford. Receivers Amari Cooper, Donalond, People's

722
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Jones and Any Swartz, David Beld, Demitrich Felton and Mike Woods,

723
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: who I'm told we'll be back in action soon. It

724
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: could be ready for week one. Two tight ends, as

725
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: we said, Harrison Bryant, David a Joku, ten offensive lineman,

726
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: Joel Betonio, Jack Conklin, Michael Dunn, Drew Forbes, yelled A

727
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: Froll Holt, Chris Hubbard, James Hudson, Ethan post A White Teller,

728
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: Jed Wills Jr. So heavy on the backup guards. That's

729
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: an area that I think a move could be made.

730
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: So we had three tight ends. Nine offensive lineman yesterday

731
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: forest All we know Stanton uh Nicky Griffin, Stewart released

732
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: Drew Forbes makes it. So we go from stay still

733
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: twenty four on the offense, like yesterday said, you had that,

734
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: just so people understand he had twenty four nailed it,

735
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: you had we had in parentheses. The only thing that

736
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: I think, the only thing that I can even say

737
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: that you that I know you mentioned in the broadcast,

738
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: but we did think there'd be three tight ends and

739
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: there were two. So that was it. Everything else nailed it.

740
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Forbes would be the other surprise. So you've got you

741
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: get all, you get the twenty four correct the right amount,

742
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: and you end up just with a swab four. And

743
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: then on the defense, you get on the defensive line.

744
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: Now six defensive ends. They felt that they had six

745
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: NFL defensive ends. I knew that. I just didn't know

746
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: if they would keep more than six. This is a

747
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: spot to watch as one that could be trimmed in

748
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: the future. But you've got Miles Clowney, Alex Wright, Chase Winovich,

749
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Isaac Rochelle, and the rookie Isaiah Thomas, and I thought

750
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: one of its. Rochelle and Thomas were three for two

751
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: three for three. You get them all defensive tackles, and

752
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: this would be a place I would not be surprised

753
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: to see perhaps a move made. Um, you've got George Elliott, Taven,

754
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: Bryan Tommy TODYA, perry On Winfrey before we knew from

755
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: the start six linebackers, and we had this exactly right,

756
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: j Ok, Tony Fields, Anthony Walker, Um, Jacob phillips On

757
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: t Take and my guy Jordan Kunashak. I love that

758
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: guy had So then here's the where the surprise was

759
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: only five corners. Denzel Ward, Gregg, Knewsom, Greedy Williams, mj A.

760
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: J Herb Millard does not make him. We thought Miller

761
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: or Jolly, I think both could be back on the

762
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: practice squad, but neither are on the initial fifty three.

763
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: And the issue with Miller there is pretty good special

764
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: teams gunner, very good gunner on special teams and had

765
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: been probably was slated to start in that capacity had

766
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: he been on the team. So we will we'll see

767
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: where what how that ends up. And again initial fifty

768
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: three doesn't mean he's not on the week one three either. Um.

769
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: And then the five safeties which we had John Johnson,

770
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison, Grant, delput Rich account and d Anthony Bell

771
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: the first undrafted free agent to make it since Kevin

772
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: Stefanskin Andrew Berry had been here, So shout out to him.

773
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's a secure one. So if

774
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: you're saying, Okay, if we're to do something, where could

775
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: it be. I think we could add a tight end.

776
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: I think that we could lose an offensive lineman. I

777
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: think we could lose a defensive end and add a

778
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver or a corner. I think everything else. And

779
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: maybe you decide that to shake things up in the

780
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: linebacker room, like with Fields and Kunash, I if there's

781
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: somebody that comes available that they really love UM. And

782
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: that's probably true of most positions except you know, quarterback,

783
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: running back. UM. The two tight ends that are there,

784
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: and your safeties are good. I think it looks good.

785
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect much change. I think that things could

786
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: shift around as we go forward. And again, if you're

787
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: looking at where could the Browns trade from to try

788
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: to address a weakness, I think it's coming from either

789
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: the running back position, the offensive line, or the defensive

790
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: end position. I think that that could be a spot

791
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: where you are overloaded. Your six defensive ends are unlikely

792
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: to be on this fifty three all the year. So

793
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: you got fifty one at fifty three, good job at you.

794
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: We'll take it, yeah, we will. Um look the and

795
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: as the league cuts down this, this will be the

796
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: So you've got this fifty three initially, you'll have tomorrow

797
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: where you'll have some waiver. The waiver claims are tomorrow, right,

798
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: just from a chronological standpoint, still have that tomorrow, and

799
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: veterans imagine the emotion of that, like to be like

800
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: you make a fifty three and you're celebrating, and that

801
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: is something to celebrate because I mean, my god, do

802
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: you think you're you're at eighty What were at eighty seven?

803
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: What were we at over the week last weekend? Well

804
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: before eighty five? You go from eighty five to fifty

805
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: three in less than from five to eighty and then

806
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: now from eight so noon Wednesday noon tomorrow for waiver

807
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: waiver cutdowns and so waiver cutdowns are guys who were

808
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: not vested veterans people on their first four um years

809
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: in the league. So teams must have their waiver claims

810
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: put in and around noon teams will be notified if

811
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: they were awarded any players off of the waivers. Once

812
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: those notices are sent out, teams can start to sign

813
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: players their sixteen man practice squad, so that all happens tomorrow.

814
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: Practice squad waiver claims that happens tomorrow UM. By four PM,

815
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: teams can start to place players on their fifty three

816
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: man roster on i R with an eligibility to return

817
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: after a minimum four games. Any player placed on i

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00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: R before four pm tomorrow will be lost for the season.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have anybody on our candidate. So

820
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: last year was I want to say, Jacob Phillips we

821
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: carried on the initial fifty three to place on i R.

822
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: Then we were able to activate Elijah Lye who we

823
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: had cut and brought him back and he was then

824
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: active four week one. So that's that's how it goes.

825
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: Anybody who's cut that is a vested veteran, so that's

826
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: somebody on their second contract in the NFL. That player

827
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: is free to sign whatever. They're just free immediately free

828
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: agents like Sheldon Day for example, immediately a free agent O. J.

829
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: Howard would be immediately a free agent. You said something

830
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: there as you were going through it quickly but Michael Woods,

831
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: we thought that he would. He was so good early

832
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: in camp, but you thought we did. We had him

833
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: in parentheses, but we did had him in the mix

834
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: as one of the receivers. Optimism that he could be

835
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: ready yeah for week one, that his hammy's coming along,

836
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: which is good. Yeah, And he was somebody that I

837
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: think that it's hard to say that, you know what

838
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: type of it's hard to say, well, were we were

839
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: counting on him, but early on in camp led you

840
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: to believe that perhaps you could. I mean, this is

841
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick. But he was damn good early on,

842
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: very good and the guy that the core hers thought

843
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: was the toughest to go against. Um. By the way,

844
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: my Pedro's not Pedro's listening. He's listening, he said, not panicked.

845
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: Exact quote in the text was guess they were worried

846
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: about Lance, which is true, but I was embellishing for

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Speaker 1: the fun. How does he feel about the fact that

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849
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Speaker 1: lost the trial of Pedro, so he is Pedro. He's

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Speaker 1: just also not Pedro. That there's also now there's a

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Speaker 1: not black Cobra. I don't think this might be the

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Speaker 1: first that he's here. So Dad, only have something in

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Speaker 1: something in common? Dad, if you're listening, Bow's oldest at

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Speaker 1: not Blackrob, not black. That's who you are, NBC. And

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Speaker 1: so you're a trend center. Dad, love that? Um, he said,

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Speaker 1: So Jimmy has a no trade clause, five K per

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Speaker 1: game roster bonus plus performance in sens. Gonna have to

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Speaker 1: twenty three? Uh? And then yes, he asked, unless you're

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Speaker 1: only twenty seven out or claimed on cutdown that is accurate. Yes,

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Speaker 1: indeed it is. That's he's fact checking down apparently is

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Speaker 1: fact checking me, which is ironic. This is unbelievable. That

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Speaker 1: three and he's still he wants to do. Focus on that.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's focus on. So I liked the tweet yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was from Aaron Wilson, who's covered the NFL for

869
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Speaker 1: a long long time, and he said, and I quote,

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Speaker 1: let's pull us right up here because it's right at

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Speaker 1: the top of my legs. A year ago, there were

872
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Speaker 1: twenty seven total waiver claims awarded to nineteen NFL teams

873
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Speaker 1: after the initial cutdown to fifty three players across the league.

874
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Speaker 1: I read this on the air yesterday. The New York

875
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Speaker 1: Giants had the most claims with three Justin Hilliard, Colin Johnson,

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Speaker 1: and Quincy Rush. Fact check me all you want, baby,

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Speaker 1: I'm not cliff claiming. It's not a little known fact.

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Speaker 1: It just is a straight uffect. Do you two other

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Speaker 1: things in this initial fifty three that we're looking at?

880
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Speaker 1: Um so posting at center? We mentioned this with Hants

881
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Speaker 1: not in the fifty three. Who else is center material?

882
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Speaker 1: If something were to happen to Postic, Michael Dunn would

883
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Speaker 1: be your next center and would be your neck center

884
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Speaker 1: after that. So that's where you're on that front and

885
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Speaker 1: on the on the three on the two tight ends?

886
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Speaker 1: Is that can you do that heading into week one

887
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Speaker 1: to just have two up? Uh? It feels like we'd

888
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Speaker 1: have to have three. You could have two up. You could.

889
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Speaker 1: My guess is that you could have a third. You

890
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Speaker 1: probably would have three up. And I have to go

891
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Speaker 1: back and look at like the roster, the weekly roster elevations,

892
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Speaker 1: because if if you're able to um, can't you expand

893
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Speaker 1: your game tape roster. Here we go. Two players can

894
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: be elevated from the practice squad each week to be

895
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Speaker 1: eligible to play. As was the case the last two seasons,

896
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Speaker 1: a player can be elevated to the active roster twice

897
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Speaker 1: under a standard elevation and revert immediately back to the

898
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Speaker 1: practice squad without having the quick clear waivers. So what

899
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Speaker 1: we would do is my guess is we'll have for Stall,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Kia Griffin, Stewart's I your Mitchell paying

901
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: two of those guys probably on our practice squad, and

902
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Speaker 1: so we would be able to elevate them a few

903
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Speaker 1: times before them having the clear waivers, if that was

904
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Speaker 1: indeed what we wanted to do. All right, very good,

905
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Speaker 1: good job out of you. Fifty one, fifty three. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next, John Hanson, get your fantasy notebooks out. He's

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918
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Speaker 1: Fantasy's own channel. John, thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 1: aspire to. He was in an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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Speaker 1: Let's start let's start there. How does that happen? How

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Speaker 1: does that come? What's going on? Guys? Great to talk

927
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Speaker 1: with you, guys. Uh here a draft season? Yeah, so

928
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Speaker 1: a long story short. Jeff Schaefer, who is Larry davis

929
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930
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Speaker 1: rights with Larry, is the guy who did that show

931
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Speaker 1: The League based on Fantasy football dudes, big popular show

932
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Speaker 1: was on Belief for seven years, so like, uh, I

933
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Speaker 1: think it was thirteen fourteen years ago. He just reached out.

934
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Speaker 1: He was a fan, and he wanted to use my magazine,

935
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Speaker 1: uh for basically the first scene ever guy on the

936
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Speaker 1: you know, on the toilet there with the magazine, which

937
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938
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Speaker 1: So so we just uh you know, started this big

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Speaker 1: long story short, he said, you know, I've done this before,

941
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Speaker 1: a little bit of acting, and he's like, well, did

942
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Speaker 1: you have any interest in in, uh, you know, being

943
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Speaker 1: an extra on Curb what? I of course, And then

944
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945
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Speaker 1: a line in the scene. So it was great, Um

946
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Speaker 1: I did. I will say though the first take I

947
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Speaker 1: froze like a deer in the headlights. Um, literally going

948
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Speaker 1: through my brand like, oh my god, I'm literally doing

949
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Speaker 1: a scene right now with Larry David. So we had

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Speaker 1: to you know, pause and gather ourselves and of course

951
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: Jeff Carlin you know, don't screw it up, guru, which

952
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: was no pressure, no pressure whatsoever. What is the episode

953
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Speaker 1: for people? Who want to who want to see it?

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Speaker 1: What's what is the episode that you're in? Yeah? That

955
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Speaker 1: but it aired on December early December. It was like

956
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Speaker 1: talking about the girls soup were you talking about now?

957
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Speaker 1: But what's the big theme of the show do you remember? Well? Well,

958
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Speaker 1: the scene was was in the country club where Larry

959
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961
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Speaker 1: golf left lobster and she got Larry's last lobster and

962
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Speaker 1: his lobster. Yeah. His argument was it was her ex husband,

963
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Speaker 1: so she really wasn't a widow. And then I had

964
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Speaker 1: to chime in there and yelled Larry a little bit,

965
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Speaker 1: that's amazing, absolutely amazing, um so so cool. Its episode seven.

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Speaker 1: As soon as I said, as soon as I said

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Speaker 1: The question was gonna ask, is give us the best

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Speaker 1: fantasy strategy that isn't done enough? Is there something that

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Speaker 1: is Look, this is the game plan, follow this that

981
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: most people should follow that maybe they don't. We'll go

982
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Speaker 1: a little a little macro and a little micro with it.

983
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Speaker 1: A number one, I'm a big time agist, so if

984
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Speaker 1: you want to have maybe a little bit of a

985
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: different take on it, I only target ascending players. If

986
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Speaker 1: you've shown us your best football already and it's probably

987
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Speaker 1: in the rear view, I'm I probably won't take you.

988
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 1: So that's number one. Uh, just target guys who's best

989
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: football is in front of them. It does make for

990
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Speaker 1: us volatility, but it also makes for some unbelievable seasons

991
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: and calls and things like that. And now when we

992
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: look at it, you know, quarterback this year really really deep.

993
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Not that into the top guys. Running back is pretty deep,

994
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: but there is a weird kind of range there and

995
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: like rounds three, four, five, where there's literally no one

996
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm interested in. Maybe Breese Halts he goes around number four. Um,

997
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think you need to get into the

998
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: running back business. Per usual, I think wide receiver this

999
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: year is really top heavy. You have like seven elite guys.

1000
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: I call them the Magnificent seven. It would be ideal

1001
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: to get one of those guys. Is not a deal breaker,

1002
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: But after that the position is really really deep. So

1003
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm not in that much of a hurry to get

1004
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: wide receivers because you can. Really there's buying opportunities left

1005
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: and right out there. Look at Romeo Dobbs in Green

1006
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Bay ascending like a big time here and then at

1007
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: tight end, I'm personally not usually someone who who pays

1008
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: that premium. I'm a little worried about Kelsey at thirty three.

1009
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Speaker 1: So and typically and it's definitely applies this year. I

1010
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Speaker 1: want the best of both worlds. I want like a

1011
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: second tier guy who is a stud like talent, who

1012
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Speaker 1: could blow up like a T. J. Hawkinson and believe

1013
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: it or not, my big sleeper at tight end this

1014
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: year is Cole Commit for the Chicago Bears. But there's

1015
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Speaker 1: a quick little snapshot. I liked that. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: at Fantasy points dot Com, you right the draft strategy

1017
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1018
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1019
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Speaker 1: of different tools and cheat sheets and stuff that I

1020
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Speaker 1: used in in my draft, which I think, by the way,

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Speaker 1: went very well. But just tell people real quickly pull

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Speaker 1: them to the site of what they get in terms

1023
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Speaker 1: of their offerings to prepare themselves for the draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: we have really talented staff of really creative and excellent writers,

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Speaker 1: but we also kind of cover it from all kinds

1026
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Speaker 1: of angles. I know you guys are very friends and

1027
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Speaker 1: friendly with Greg Cosell. Well, I've worked with Greg for

1028
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Speaker 1: over fifteen years as a you know type of situation there.

1029
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Speaker 1: You know, we run it up the flagpole. So we

1030
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Speaker 1: have the film room lockdown, all the stat guys. We

1031
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Speaker 1: have mirriad stat guys who are like, you know, major

1032
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Speaker 1: stat nerds. I myself was a Sea minus math student.

1033
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Speaker 1: Uh so I hire smart math people. But I think

1034
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Speaker 1: the other thing, Nathan, you may not even be aware

1035
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Speaker 1: of this, but we have launched our own this year,

1036
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Speaker 1: so we're actually going to chart all plays and have

1037
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Speaker 1: our own proprietary actionable stats that are not widely available.

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Speaker 1: So we got it all going on here. I love

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Speaker 1: the sound. I'm talking with John Hansen, the guru, the

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Speaker 1: fantasy Guru Fantasy points dot Com. All right, when you

1041
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: look and then you mentioned kind of you know, the

1042
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Speaker 1: overall strategy. Who are the guys and there can be one, two,

1043
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: three that are on all of your teams. Oh, Dave

1044
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: Davis is number one probably on every team. I called

1045
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: him kind of my breakout receiver every year, like the

1046
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: name like one wide receiver who was going to bust out.

1047
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: Last year it was Darnell Mooney, and I would call

1048
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Speaker 1: that a win because I finished like wide receiver twenty one.

1049
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Speaker 1: I think or ADP was forty. I love Mooney big

1050
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: time here. But you know, Gabe Davis is someone I've

1051
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: always really loved. You know, Nathan, you're a big number guy.

1052
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: The dude has scored a touchdown on twelve percent of

1053
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Speaker 1: his targets in his career, including the plates. That's rights,

1054
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Speaker 1: and the targets are only going up this year. Is

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00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,479
Speaker 1: number two in Buffalo. Yeah, he's gonna get that for sure.

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00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: I am a Javonte Williams person. Of course, you know

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00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: last year his ADP was fifty five and in my

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00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: number one league, leave be doing the radio show. I

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00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: took him at twenty three. Okay, that's how much I

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00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: loved him. Was it a great pick? Probably not great,

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00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: because I don't think anyone expected Melvin to be, you

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00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: know that good. But it was a damn good pick.

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00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: And it's to my to my point year before, I

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00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: said the same thing about Jonathan Taylor. Just take Jonathan

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00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: Taylor because in five years, when he's made four to

1066
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, you're gonna look back saying I was a

1067
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: pretty good pick. Absolutely. And by the way, I think

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00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 1: Javonte next year is going to be like a top

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00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: five pick. That's just interesting. Would argue you should be

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00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: a top twelve pick this year. But we'll say about Melvin,

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00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: as we know these running backs, they get older, they

1072
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: tend to not get better, they get worse. What do

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00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: you make of Let's just take an offense that has

1074
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: carried fantasy teams for so so long, and that is

1075
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Now it's a different looking Kansas

1076
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: City Chiefs team. Who are you in on with the Chiefs?

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00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: Who are you out on Oh I have a very

1078
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: very hot take on on these chiefs and probably and

1079
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: I've interviewed, I've been fortunate enough to interview hundreds of players.

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00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: I would say in my top five in terms of

1081
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: just like what an amazing guy. And by the way,

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00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: David Bell of your Cleveland Brows, it was an amazing guy.

1083
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: I sat with that awesome kid. But sky More is

1084
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: my guy. I absolutely love him. I am all in.

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00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: I am calling him a candidate to be the sleeper

1086
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: pick of the year. And again that's a pretty concherryon

1087
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: take here because a lot of people are in on

1088
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 1: Juju and they're they're, you know, respecting Nicole Hardman and

1089
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: and MVS. But MVS is Marcus Valdesti antling. He does

1090
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: have some drop issues. He's never been a high volume guy.

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00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: Nicole Hardman at this point is like Charlie Brown and

1092
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: Lucy with the football and Juju Smith Schuster missed two

1093
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: weeks of practice with a knee, which is notable because

1094
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: it's the chronic knee and he's had only one year

1095
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: contract offers the last couple of years. So I think

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00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: it all lines up for sky More. He's got like

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00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: running back legs basically looked like a running back below

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00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: the waist. He played a little bit of running back.

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00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: He can also line up outside. He does run a

1100
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: solid four four forty and he's got massive hands. If

1101
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: you've seen any clips of him really making some great catches,

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00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: I think they're hiding him by the way in the preseason,

1103
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: but there have been a couple of clips of him

1104
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: really hauling in some some great balls there and the

1105
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: massive hands he's got, and also he's got a great

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00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: short area quickness. So do you think a guy with

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00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: great short area quickness, running back legs and massive hands,

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00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: do you think Andy Reid is gonna use that guy? Well?

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00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: I think so, I would say so. I think you'd

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00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: be exactly right about that. Um, by the way, you'll

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Speaker 1: be very pleased in. My wife drafted last night, Guru,

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00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: and she was in the seventh spot in the ten

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Speaker 1: team league. She has on her roster and this is

1114
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: just off top of my head, and she went Jefferson

1115
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: Naji first to Javonte and the third she's got Game

1116
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: Davis is her third receiver. Uh, and she's got Sky

1117
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: Morris deep on the roster. Because obviously when you go

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Speaker 1: the guru right there, she's exactly He's got his own words.

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00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: I love it. All right, let's talk about the Browns

1122
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: real quickly from a fantasy standpoint. I think the name

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00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: that everybody would know Nick Chubb, and he is a stud.

1124
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: But there is Kareem Hunt here. You know, you've got

1125
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Jerome Ford who showed a lot maybe for Dynasty leagues,

1126
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: but is or anybody from the Browns that maybe ends

1127
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: up on your roster this year. Well, look, I'm not

1128
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna rule anyone out. I mean, I said before he

1129
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: took a snap in the NFL and Nick Chef's stud.

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00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy has been great. Kareem Hunt absolutely

1131
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: loves him his rookie year. And by the way, that's

1132
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: a great tip to like, that's where you get the

1133
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,479
Speaker 1: buying opportunities the rookies. You gotta take a leap of faith.

1134
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: Kareem Mont's rookie year in seventeen. I ranked him at

1135
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: twenty overall and he was like a third round pick.

1136
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: But I'm like he's in the second. He fambled on

1137
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: his first carry, uh, and I almost passed out, but

1138
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: it worked out well. I do love David bell As

1139
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: as a dude, and he's gonna be like gluey kind

1140
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: of holding together. I do like Donovan People's Jones as well.

1141
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: I though, you know, for the Browns, and I know

1142
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: you love David and Joeku. I certainly like David and Joke.

1143
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm Harrison Bryant guy. I guess it's not gonna happen

1144
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: this year, but you know, certainly the Browns have plenty

1145
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: of really good players, are very good roster. They do.

1146
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: And the one guy I would say I think is

1147
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna may be surprised people just from the chemistry that

1148
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: I've seen with Jacoby Brissaid and just how good he

1149
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: has been here as a Mari. I mean, I think

1150
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: he's clearly the number one target. It's just gonna depend

1151
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: how much we throw the football in terms of his

1152
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: fantasy ceiling. But he's probably you know, if you get

1153
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: him as a third, or you can get him as

1154
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: a fourth or sever in a lot of cases, he's

1155
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: not going to hurt you. At that standpoint, you only

1156
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: probably have upside. Yeah, there's something to be said for

1157
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: like the guy you know, the alpha dog, you know,

1158
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: like he commands the ball when they throw it, so absolutely,

1159
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: and you know a little bit of a dip here obviously,

1160
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: so take advantage. And that is a rock solid wide receiver. Three,

1161
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: I certainly would agree with that. Is there an as

1162
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: sending quarterback that's being drafted too low consistently that that

1163
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: you like considering that's kind of your philosophy and all

1164
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: of these things. Yeah, well, I think it's a very

1165
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: very obvious name. But we get to this range of

1166
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: picks and fantasy drafts this summer, it's like fifty sixty

1167
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: where I personally I think the good running backs are gone.

1168
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: The wide receivers all look the same. The way the

1169
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: ADP is lining up, it's just not a great spot

1170
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: to take a tight end. So that I found myself like,

1171
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: all right, I'll just take Joe Burrow here. I mean,

1172
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: the guys only like on a Hall of Fame track

1173
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: already a DP of seventy one. I think that's fine.

1174
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: I think right in that same spot too, if you're

1175
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: a little stuck, I am in on jail and hurts.

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01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's an ascending situation, but I

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01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: think it might be because they want to be a

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01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: little bit more of a throwing team. And obviously a J.

1179
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: Brown is huge. Pretty good vibes there. And then on

1180
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: the lower end, you know, I'm not into most of

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01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: his quarterbacks. Mahomes, he's been good this summer, uh Lamar

1182
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: and Kyler and Russell and Dak and some of these

1183
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: guys have issues. I'm in on Derek Carr hopefully for

1184
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: the best with Darren Waller, but I always loved car

1185
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: and I think he'll be fully unlocked with Tavante and

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel. Alright, last one, and this is great stuff again.

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Speaker 1: Total Flyer. Who's somebody you like? Oh wow? Well, you

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Speaker 1: know it's it's funny because some of these leagues where

1197
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Speaker 1: you know, really good players are falling, uh really far,

1198
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Speaker 1: like Wandale Robinson. It must be a guy that you

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Speaker 1: can get in the last round. The vibes have been

1200
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Speaker 1: horrible with with Kenny Golladay, so I really like Wandale Robinson,

1201
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan's. If you're still looking for a tight end

1202
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Speaker 1: in Houston as a long shot guy, I think that's

1203
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: a pretty viable one here. Uh, let's see here actually

1204
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: kind of like Austin Hooper if you can believe that.

1205
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Speaker 1: I even think Kenny Pickett has a chance last round.

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01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a quarterback to be kind of

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Speaker 1: like this year's Mac Jones in that I think he's

1208
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Speaker 1: gonna play, and I think it's pretty good. Alec Pierce, Uh,

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Speaker 1: these wide Outlookie and Indie Nico Collins. As you can see,

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Speaker 1: I am all about these young players, you know, basically

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Speaker 1: drafting off the last year's cheat sheet. One more Zamir

1212
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Speaker 1: White in Vegas. If Josh Jacob says any problems, and

1213
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: he probably will, the current regime drafted Zamir White. My

1214
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Speaker 1: prediction is that Zamir White is starting for the Raiders

1215
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Speaker 1: in November and December. Then Ty Davis Price too. If

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Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell has problems in that backfield in San Franz.

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Speaker 1: Oh see, that's why they call him the Guru. Some

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Speaker 1: garrific advice right there. Thank you so much for the time,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, John, you got guys, have have

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Speaker 1: All Right, we have a fifty three. We will go

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Speaker 1: have your set initial fifty three. It's always the key

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Speaker 1: to this thing. Um. The crazy thing about this was

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Speaker 1: there wasn't I mean, I know that around here we're

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Speaker 1: like and these are human beings that you know well,

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Speaker 1: so you're invested. But these are the last four five

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Speaker 1: figure six were locks heading into this weekend, So there

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01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot that was being decided and and

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01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: likely nothing that has decided here if it has much

1264
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: bearing on the season, The season hasn't gone well major

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01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,479
Speaker 1: injuries correct if anything here in this these last couple

1266
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: of spots. To me, when I think of the most noteworthy,

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01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to run three things by and we touched

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01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: on this when this when wean this initially dropped um

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: since nice, good, good, good news on Michael Woods. That

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01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: jumps out to me right away, that's a good thing.

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01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: I still think that that room and while you like

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01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: him and he could end up being a tremendous steel

1273
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: much of the way that Dono and People's Jones was

1274
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: betting on hitting that late in the draft consistently is

1275
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: a difficult thing at that premium of a position. Now,

1276
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: he has been very impressive in the limited time that

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: we have seen him, so the question becomes, you know,

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01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: can he you know, produce for us this year? To me,

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01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: that room still feels somewhat incomplete, as does the tight

1280
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: end room. And I feel like the offensive line and

1281
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: defensive end rooms are overloaded. It does. It does feel

1282
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: that way, So ten instead and nine on the offensive line.

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01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: The other thing I was going to bring up to

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01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: you was just the two tight ends. Yeah, and that

1285
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: room needs that needs an addition wide receiver and tight end.

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01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: And uh, I want to make one quick correction now.

1287
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: In two you can be elevated from the practice squad

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01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: three times before you would have the clear waivers to

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01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: revert back to the practice squad. So imagine a world

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01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: in which the Browns have four tight ends here in

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: the program. You could go through the first six games

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01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: of the year if you had too, without having to

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: have that third tight end. So it gives you flexibility

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01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: early in the year if that's what they decide they

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01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: want to do with it. So that's just something to

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01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. It is possible that it's

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: not just the two tight ends. It's what's the tight

1298
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: end room plus the tight ends on the practice squad

1299
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: where you could have if you had two of them

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: on the price squad, that's three weeks apiece. Six games

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01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: were in of the you know, middle of October, before

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01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: you even actually need that quote unquote third tight end

1303
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,959
Speaker 1: on your fifty three. I'm also curious your your view

1304
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: of the special teams breakdown, because if you're talking ten

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01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: defensive linemen and six defensive ends, those usually aren't special

1306
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: teams guys. So you have six linebackers, five corners, five safeties,

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: so you can probably get enough there, but it's it's

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01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: a little tight, isn't it with the six d ends.

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01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. So you're gonna on like your

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01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: coverage teams and your return teams. My guest is Harrison

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01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: Bryant's gonna play some special teams. You're gonna get. He's

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to felt and play special teams. Um. Mike

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01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: Woods is probably gonna have to play some special teams. Uh.

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: And then you go, you know, I know, Chase play

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01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: special teams, Winovich, um, and then you're gonna get I

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01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: would think probably Tony Fields for sure, Taki Kunashik playing

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: special teams. A J. Green, M. J. Emerson are gonna

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01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: have to play special teams. Do Anthony Bell leccount will

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01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: play special teams. So it's four, five, six, seven, eight. Yeah,

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: that's plenty, that's right. And then Jerome Ford will play

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01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: special teams. He'll probably do some returning for a darn

1322
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: Is to play special teams. So you're still You're still good.

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: It's just that's what you know. You have a great

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: special teams coordinator like Mike Briefer, and he's gonna have

1325
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: to make adjustments. Now here's the other thing again, her Miller,

1326
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 1: who we talked about as being, you know, a premier gunner.

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01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: Let's say he comes back on our practice squad. He

1328
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: can be your gunner the first three weeks with an ovation.

1329
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: So that's a change that I think people aren't being

1330
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: cognitive of when they're looking at this, like, oh my god,

1331
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: two tight ends. They've got to have a tight end.

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: You just need to have a tight end. Another tight

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: end your program, and then he in essence, can get

1334
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: you through the first three weeks of the season without

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01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 1: having to clear waivers and to be and to stay

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01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 1: in your in your program. So that's something that again

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01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: I would look at and keep keep in mind as

1338
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: we go through these things. So that's where you stand

1339
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: at this point. This happening just in the last couple

1340
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: of minutes. UM, Mike Tomlin saying that he is not

1341
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 1: we're ready to name a starter yet. At quarterback in Pittsburgh,

1342
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: Tomlins of that. So that's again, this is this is

1343
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: going to this is a competitive thing, right Is there

1344
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: a difference preparing for Trabsky and he's probably a little

1345
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: more mobileiskey? Probably at Yeah, so that would probably be

1346
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: be it um interesting though if they would like leave

1347
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: it up to the last week like that. Here's a

1348
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: surprise out of Houston, Marlon Mack being released by the Texans,

1349
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: which means Damian Pierce is going to be the guy.

1350
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: That's big. I felt like it was headed that way

1351
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: anyway down in Houston, that he could be the guy.

1352
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: So that's something to pay attention to. I got a

1353
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: fantasy draft tonight for NBC. Yeah, the annual, the annual

1354
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: Fantasy Draft tonight. Let's go, Yeah, very good, gonna be fun.

1355
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: What's what are the what are the rules? I can't

1356
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: even remember? So we're good, No need to break Jay

1357
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: can wait giving it. They're like Dr Evil and Mini

1358
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: Me both just going I don't worry, Jacob, We'll get

1359
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: to jaild On real quickly. Cynthia Freeland is trying to uh,

1360
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: I guess kind of clarify what happened earlier, and GiB A,

1361
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: this is your your girl. She said she told Baker

1362
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: to go f them up, and he repeated it back

1363
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: to her in agreement. Oh, now she's putting herself into it.

1364
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: She's saying that I'm the one who said go f

1365
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: them up about the Browns, and he said, yeah, I'm

1366
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: gonna have that's your girl. She was saying that. According

1367
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: to her, she was saying that for the season, not

1368
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: just four week one in the Browns. Oh, this is

1369
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: a dicey. I don't know about this. I don't She

1370
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: should have just not said anything, not said anything, and

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01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: then it wouldn't have been a problem. Jake will join us.

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01:10:51,040 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: Coming up next Cleveland Rose l fifty esp in Cleveland,

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:10,559
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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: let's head out on the hotline for a visit with

1377
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: our great friend Jake Trotter, ESPN. Well we have it.

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01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: We have an initial fifty three. How'd you do, pal?

1379
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: How close do you get? You know, it's pretty close.

1380
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: I conceded to Nathan last week on Cassinics versus Dakota Allen.

1381
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: I knew which one nastics. I'm sorry, I I I

1382
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: my my fifty three was in like ten days ago,

1383
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: and I wasn't going to change it at that point.

1384
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: But I conceded to Nathan. He knew that he was right.

1385
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Although Dakota did get you know, banged

1386
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: up a little bit in training camp, so um, I was.

1387
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: I think of the spot, I kind of surprisingly messed

1388
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: up a little with offensive line. Like I I didn't

1389
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: think that Drew Forbes was gonna make over Blake cants Um.

1390
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,919
Speaker 1: Nathan's guy Froholt from The Lord of the Ring Sinquel

1391
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: maybe made the roster as well, which I thought might

1392
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,839
Speaker 1: happen but wasn't. It wasn't positive, but I think otherwise

1393
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: I was. I was pretty on point that the one

1394
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: the one area where I thought that they would keep

1395
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: more guys. And I can't imagine that the receiving corps

1396
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 1: they have right now is the one they're gonna go

1397
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: to Carolina with. I don't think they can go to

1398
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: It was just those five guys at receiver. But um,

1399
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think they would keep one more

1400
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: of the players that they cut, which they'll probably try

1401
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: to get back on the practice squad. So I I

1402
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: did okay, Like I would probably give myself like a

1403
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: C plus. Listen, that's all rank you. Everybody aspires to

1404
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: be Z fifty three is all the kid got, right?

1405
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I know I had I had a third

1406
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: tight end and not ten offensive linemen, and I had

1407
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: Herb Miller making it and I think he'll be back

1408
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: on the practice squad at corner. And I didn't have

1409
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: all six defensive end. That was a surprise. Sens is

1410
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: a lot of defensive ens. I thought five was a lot,

1411
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: but to go with six, So I think you're right,

1412
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: there's some flexibility. Are you here? What are the people

1413
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: that you have spoken to? What is and and it's

1414
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: really six receivers? Felton as a receiver for all intents

1415
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: and purposes on this So we've got six. But to

1416
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: your point, you don't feel necessarily great about that six.

1417
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: Are you hearing anything in terms of are there trades potentially?

1418
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: Are there people the Browns are interested? What have you

1419
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: heard as it relates to that spot in particular? Yeah,

1420
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: I really haven't heard much. You know, I think O. J. Howard,

1421
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: that he's a tight end, would be a name to watch.

1422
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: That was that was surprising to me that the Bills

1423
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: let him go, although you wonder why would the Bills

1424
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: let him go? Um, you know, just given his pedigrees

1425
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: a draftick, So that might be a name to keep

1426
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: an eye on. You know, you're gonna have somebody like

1427
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: Jalen reagor was he cut to down he was cut

1428
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: or nine? No? They the guy that Devan Allen was

1429
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: cut though that speeds. Yeah, so our guy, our guy

1430
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: right there right. Um, yeah, I haven't heard any like

1431
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: specific names, but I would have to imagine that they

1432
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: are kicking the tires on multiple receiver options because again,

1433
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean you look at the fifty three and that

1434
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: just jumps out, like I just it's got to be

1435
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: better than what it looks like on paper right now,

1436
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: just based on what we've seen. And you know, part

1437
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: of it too is you're you're of your five receivers,

1438
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: two of them are rookies, one of which basically wasn't

1439
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: able to practice in in training camp. You're in one

1440
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: who missed like the first two or three weeks and

1441
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 1: it's just now kind of I think finding his stride

1442
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: in David Bell so uh, and you know, I think

1443
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: Anthony Swartz's struggles are well documented. Um. I think that's

1444
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: the area that if you're gonna trade for somebody, that's

1445
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: the one to watch. And like, I don't know that

1446
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: they can swing it, but there is you would think

1447
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: that there's like a trade, a deal to be done

1448
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: where you send out a running back and you get

1449
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Like, I don't know if they could

1450
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: do that. Um, you know, positional scarcity. It's gonna make

1451
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: it tougher to trade for a wide receiver than to

1452
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: trade away I'm sorry, trade trade four. It's gonna be

1453
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: tougher to trade for a wide receiver than trade away one.

1454
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: But sure, um that that's kind of the air of

1455
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: the roster that sticks out to me. Yeah, that's the

1456
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: thing that's tough is you've got a glut of talent,

1457
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: absurd talent at running back, Jake, You've got a glut

1458
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: of talent in the middle of the offensive line. Uh.

1459
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: Those aren't typically positions of of great need around the league, right,

1460
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: and that what you need is I mean, when you

1461
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: look at this, I just I've been on the receiver

1462
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: thing for over a month. I just I think it's

1463
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: I think it's been an issue for a long time.

1464
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: And um, I think this thing was put together with

1465
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: the idea that Deshaun Watson was going to play the

1466
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: majority of the games. He's not. And so to your point,

1467
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: two rookies and Woods has missed so much time. I mean, heck,

1468
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: Bell and Schwartz have missed time as well. So it's

1469
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: it's just there's not enough there. But the options are

1470
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: very very limited in terms of what you could do

1471
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: to to upgrade via trade. It's hard to imagine anything

1472
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: substantial me in, isn't it. Yeah, it is hard, and

1473
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: and you know they might be able to upgrade on

1474
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: the margins, but I don't know at this point that

1475
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: you can just transform an entire position group like you're

1476
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: receiving cores without giving up substantial assets, of which the

1477
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: Browns are lacking because of the Shan Watson trade. So yeah,

1478
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean that that is something that is going to

1479
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: be tough and something they're gonna have to overcome. And

1480
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: the factor in that you're essentially playing a backup quarterback

1481
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: for much of the season and Jacobe procat. It's it's

1482
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: tough to be a playoff team when you have a

1483
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: passing offense going into the season that you know, let's

1484
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: face this, let's face it's not gonna rank very high

1485
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: on paper right now. Um, I think the thing that

1486
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: has hurt them and and we'll see if it actually

1487
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: ends up hurting them once the season begins, because I

1488
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: think it's too early to write anybody off. But they

1489
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: really need defeciagewards to take big steps forward, and I

1490
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: think that's what they were banking on with the composition

1491
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: of that position. And you know, Sports is obviously struggling

1492
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: to catch the ball, and you know DPJ just kind

1493
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: of had a quiet preseason, like I don't know that

1494
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: he struggled or anything, but they didn't play much. He

1495
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: really hasn't popped either. So those are the two guys

1496
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: that like they really needed to take big steps forward,

1497
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 1: and that can still happen, but if it doesn't, it

1498
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: really leaves you in the hole at that position, which

1499
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: is as we've seen with all the big trades in

1500
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,480
Speaker 1: the NFL this offseason, a coveted and really crucial positions,

1501
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: no doubt talking without Jake Trotter, Uh Jake. You know

1502
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: one thing we did not see at all in the preseason,

1503
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb or Kareem Hunt, is your expectation, like that

1504
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 1: of many, that this team is going to just really

1505
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: lean in and embrace those two as as the focal

1506
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: point in many ways what it has been in the past,

1507
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: but as the true focal point of this offense, especially

1508
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: in the early going when the schedule is a little

1509
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: more favorable. Yeah, there's no doubt. Although the other thing

1510
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: that I think is interesting about the roster, and I

1511
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: think you guys touched on it last segment. No, you know,

1512
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: only two tight ends, one not fullbacks, and Kevin Stanskey

1513
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: has used both as much more than any other play

1514
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: caller in the NFL the last two seasons. And we

1515
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: knew that the offense was transitioning to a more receiver heavy,

1516
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: wide open offense. You know the question I have do

1517
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: you have the personnel for that? And then number two, Okay,

1518
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 1: you know they can, they can, and they're going to

1519
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: sign tight ends the practice one, including maybe one or

1520
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: two the peaches cut, But um, you know, are you

1521
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: going to be in multi tight end sets at all?

1522
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: Are Are you going to just be in three and

1523
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: four wide receiver sets and try to run the ball

1524
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 1: that way. I think it'll be interesting to see what happens.

1525
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: I would love to see that dream Hunt, maybe more

1526
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: creatively than they have in the past. Um, We've we've

1527
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: seen to Metric Felton lineup all over the place. Really

1528
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: haven't seen as much of that with Hunt. But if

1529
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: you're looking for your best eleven guys to be on

1530
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: the field at once, that involves both Kareem Hunt and

1531
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. And you got a guy like Nick Chubb,

1532
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: You've got those gars. Um, you know, they can cover

1533
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: up for a lot, but they're you know, they're gonna

1534
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: have to show that they can throw the ball and

1535
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: out of the field. They're gonna face a lot of

1536
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: heavy boxes, which makes it much more difficult to run

1537
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, it certainly does. And then just from

1538
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: a you know, just a logistical standpoint, again, this is

1539
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: an initial fifty three. So you have tomorrow where there

1540
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: will be some work done. You've got some waiver wire

1541
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: claims that are gonna have to be sorted out, and

1542
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: so there could be some jockeying on this roster in

1543
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: the next twenty four hours. Jake, do you have sense

1544
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: that the Browns will be busy. Yeah, I don't think

1545
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: there's any question that you gotta call this an initial

1546
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: fifty three. It's not gonna be the final fifty three.

1547
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that there are three or four

1548
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 1: guys that they could still add to make their final

1549
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: fifty three, particularly the positions we're talking about just now.

1550
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I don't think in all my

1551
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: seasons covering the Browns that they've had the initial fifty

1552
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: three has been the final one. There'll there'll be a

1553
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: lot of movement, There'll be some guys come available, the

1554
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: Dell be interested in. I guarantee there's some guys out

1555
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: there that they're gonna be targeting. So yeah, it's not

1556
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be the final fifty three by any means.

1557
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that particularly a wide receiver

1558
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: tied end and then you know kind of what they do,

1559
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: maybe a corner I think would be interesting. You know,

1560
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: you might need another corner given that they you know,

1561
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: they they waived Herb Miller, another guy who I think

1562
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: could be back on the practice squad as well as

1563
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 1: I think you guys mentioned. But yeah, there's gonna be

1564
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: a lot of movement and not just the brown across

1565
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, this is not by any means

1566
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: in Stone all Right. Week one is Carolina, and we

1567
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: know that I think something has probably been a little

1568
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 1: bit blown out of proportion. Nonetheless, what do you make

1569
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: of this? And and does this game couldn't get any

1570
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: bigger from that personal standpoint or what do you kind

1571
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: of just make of everything? As we get ready here,

1572
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, just over under two weeks away from that game. Well,

1573
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: I mean the game is going to be super compelling,

1574
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: and not just for Brown stands or Panther stands, but

1575
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: I think everybody who's a football fan is going to

1576
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: be paying attention to that game because it's so compelling

1577
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 1: with Baker against his former team, um and just everything

1578
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: that happened at quarterback for the Browns this off season.

1579
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: If you're referring to like the what was it the

1580
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: sideline comment at the end of the y, you know,

1581
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know what to make it at

1582
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: I mean it the story kind of keeps changing. I don't.

1583
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Baker said that. If he did say it,

1584
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: he said it thinking that was gonna get out. You know,

1585
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: it seems like he was just kind of playing around.

1586
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: But I guarantee, like you know, having covered college football

1587
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: where they would just make up quotes from the opposing team,

1588
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, to get their guys fired up. You know,

1589
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: they're different programs that would just you know, fabricate quotes

1590
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: out of thin air and put them on lockers. Um.

1591
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: I think the Browns will be aware of that, not

1592
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: that they need any more motivation. I think everybody knows

1593
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: what's at stake, and you know, if you can't bring

1594
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: your best for this game and you need kind of

1595
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: like a phony quote to get you going, I mean,

1596
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. I don't think you'll

1597
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: have a d's bearing, But listen that there's a lot

1598
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: of time before that game, so who knows what said

1599
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: between now and then. Well, I think also Jake and

1600
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: Nathan I've talked about this a lot on the show.

1601
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: I just think, like from a person out forget about

1602
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: the film or what's on tape or the All twenty

1603
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: two or all of that or the last couple of years,

1604
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 1: you see that there is very much a fundamental difference

1605
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: in how Baker wants to be. And we saw that

1606
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: at his best, nurtured in Oklahoma and at times here

1607
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: at his best two years ago, where he he's all

1608
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: of that. But also that doesn't mesh necessarily with Stefanski

1609
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: and Barry and everybody that's here running the Browns. Now.

1610
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: It's but but that's who he is, right And that's

1611
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: to me, Like whether he said this off the cuff

1612
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 1: or off the record, and and I'm sure it was

1613
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: all of those things, I think it's pretty innocent. I'm

1614
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: with you on it. I don't think anybody needs any

1615
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: more motivation. It also is who he is. I mean,

1616
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: he he is Ari is stark in that way, and

1617
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: that he keeps a list with names, so he you're

1618
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna get whatever his best is with chip on his shoulder,

1619
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: you'll get it on Sunday, a week from Sunday. Yeah,

1620
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: And whatever he said or didn't say, he's definitely thinking, Matt, Like,

1621
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: I can just tell you that this is he's been

1622
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: in this situation before, whether it was Texas Tech or uh,

1623
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: you know, Ohio State after they you know, annihilated O

1624
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: you and Norman, you know, coming back and planning the

1625
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 1: flag in Ohio Stadium. You know, whether it was staring

1626
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: down Hugh in Cincinnati. I mean, that's who. That's definitely

1627
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: who Baker is there there, there's no doubt about it.

1628
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: So I think the other thing too, just like having

1629
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: cash and I haven't really watched Carolina's preseason games, but

1630
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 1: it seems like we're gonna get If you're expecting to

1631
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,879
Speaker 1: see the Baker we saw money Night football in Stittsburgh, Um,

1632
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be disappointed. I think this is

1633
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna be closer to the version of Baker based on

1634
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: what I've seen from the preseason. So I think the

1635
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: Browns are gonna get his best shot. And uh, you know,

1636
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: I think the Browns are gonna come to play as well.

1637
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: It should be a lot of fun. Yeah, it will be.

1638
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: I think you'll It feels like they're all in you

1639
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: know him for this year, like they have no choice, no, no,

1640
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: they have no other quarterbacks. But also like the Chennault thing,

1641
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: Matt rule, it feels like rules time is dwindling, Like

1642
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: this is like a one year Let's see what we

1643
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: do with this group and if not, we reset next

1644
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: year with mcrel Yeah, and I think that they I

1645
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,719
Speaker 1: think that they are an intriguing team, especially in the NFC.

1646
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: You know, the a F C. I think we're a

1647
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: little bit less compellant because I mean there's like, you know,

1648
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: third team playoffs team in the f C, in the NFC,

1649
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: like go look down the standings, So find me the

1650
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: sixth playoff team, find me the seventh playoff team, like

1651
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: they're in that conversation. And if they win week one,

1652
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, I think people are

1653
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna be looking at them differently. Um. You know, Christian

1654
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: McCaffrey obviously had injury, you know, concerns, but he's gonna

1655
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: be healthy week one. And they've got some firepower offensively

1656
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: with that receiving corps or old friend Richard Higgins, you know,

1657
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: you know the number four, number five guy on that

1658
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: receiving corps. Um. You know, they just made the trade

1659
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: for the guy from Colorado. So I think that they

1660
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 1: are going to be an interesting test for the defense

1661
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: because they they they they've got enough firepower to to

1662
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: to test you, no doubt, and that'll be a fun

1663
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: one September the eleventh. Alright, real quick, Jake, it's ka

1664
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: New York the most fun kicker to cover in the

1665
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: league right now? Or is it just because he's here?

1666
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: You know? In my fantasy league that keep I keep

1667
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: assuming like no one's gonna draft him, and then he's

1668
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: like the third kicker off the board. I'm even in

1669
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 1: the league without Brown's, Like no Browns fans are in

1670
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: this league. This is like an Oklahoma City league. And

1671
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna wait, I'm

1672
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: gonna get Kade York and I'm gonna have like the

1673
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: third best kicker in the fantasy and he's like gone

1674
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: before like four rounds still to go. So I haven't

1675
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: been able to get him on my team. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I have to write a lot of these like fantasy

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01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,799
Speaker 1: updates and and I don't consider myself a fantasy expert,

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01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: but if you haven't had your draft yet, go get

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Speaker 1: Kaid York because I think he's gonna have a monster year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it certainly feels like it, all things considered. Great, talk

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Speaker 1: to you, buddy, Thanks for your time. Okay, guys, take care.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's the great Toronto ESPN just saying this,

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01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: the Raiders waving former first round pick as Leatherwood. Feels

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Speaker 1: like Mike Mayock missed on everything in the first round,

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01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 1: but then he also had like Max Crosby and the

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01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: kid out of Clemson had some good later on Hunter

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01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro like he had some good late round stuff,

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01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: but he just overthought the first round. It seems like

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01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: he cooked a lot of those first round picks. Sure

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01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: does feel that way. Yeah, didn't they have Cleveland Farrell?

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01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: Wouldn't he in that? And the kid from Mississippi State,

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01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: the safety for State, Damon ar Nett, Gary and Connolly

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01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: they drafted him too. And then I mean the Rugs last,

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01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had a lot of a lot of

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01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: big not great at all, So much more to come.

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Speaker 1: This Alex Leatherwood stories even more in my head, I

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01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 1: thought he was in his third year, in his second

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 1: so first round pick, what seventeenth overall? Last year? They're

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01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: eating five million dollars just to get him out of

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01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: their program. In reports said they tried to trade him,

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01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:40,799
Speaker 1: but they got thirty two knows. Yeah, m funny hashtag

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01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: math right unless I like NFL Network on NFL Network crime.

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01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: That's always good that this is a guy who is

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01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: a huge recruit out of Alabama, was really good at Alabama.

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01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: There must be something from a personality standpoint that just

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01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: doesn't that's gotten out that's around the league because it's

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01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: a ball of clay that you would would still be.

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01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: Nobody thought he was the first round pick to begin with.

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01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: You know, they overdrafted him. Maybe he's just wrecked mentally,

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01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: you know, could be. Yeah, that's rare though, you know

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01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: that first round pick from the previous year cut the

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01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: next year. It feels like you, you say, Bill Callahan,

1719
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 1: what can you do here? Here? Their first round pick

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01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: one real quickly Cleveland Ferrell, Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Abraham, all

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01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: fifth year options to Client Rugs Damon Arnett both wave

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01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: following off field incident. One Alex ller Wood waved after

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01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: one season. But then he's got some hits in the middle, right,

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01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: and they win. They still win because you got a quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: that's where it starts. The next levels coming up next.

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