1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to Indianapolis. NFL scouting combine underway. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: As far as interviews and things like that, measurements, workouts 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: happening soon enough here in the city that I'm not 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna say we hate this Okay, we hate this city. 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: We like this city. We just don't like the team 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: that plays here. But more on that as the week continues. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: John Harris with us Mark vander Meer hosting Tonight, and 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: well we always kind of co host. Anyway, We're about 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: to co interview Bill O'Brien here, which is gonna be cool. Yeah. 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: I always say that, like you're host to night, John Harris, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: But you're right, we we host. It's a team effort. 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: We're like a band, like, yeah, you could sing leads 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: some songs, I'll sing lead. And it's always it's always 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: That's a great great comparison or Fleetwood Mac like, no 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: matter who says, it's always them, it's their sit. Yeah, 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: so it's our sound. I didn't think we'd begin radio 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: as our sound, Yeah, exactly. I think as far as 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: the Texans go, the stories are Tim Kelly to call plays, 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: which is great to see the quarterbacks coach as well. 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: T J. Yates assist quarterbacks coach, which kind of went 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: under the radar today, but that's very cool. Carl Smith 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: offensive consultant or I'm not sure if that's the offensive consultant, 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: and Anthony Weaver confirmed defensive coordinator. That's very cool and 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: among other things happening with the organization. But those are 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: some headlines. Yeah, I think the headline that's caught everybody 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: just kind of following a social media and we've been 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: just wrapped up with interviews and different people here, so 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: I haven't got a full fuel for it, but I 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: know that was pretty big news. When he's in fact, 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: I was, I can't hear so well amount a right 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: ear so a lot of times in those media strums, 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: I stand with my kind of facing away so I 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: can hear my left ear so happened to be standing 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: behind John McClane when he said it. I kind of 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: felt the general fall backwards. I was like, well, generally 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: you okay, because I think we all sort of like, 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: well okay, now we You and I have talked about 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: this on air, off air, wondering would it happen, when 39 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: would it happen. We didn't know, but we did know, 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: and we have known Tim from the day he set 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: foot in his building. We know how hard Tim has 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: worked in all of this. We know that as offensive 43 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: coordinaer last year he might have been calling in a place, 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: but he was a pretty big driver in that offense 45 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: and what they did. And now it's just okay, he 46 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: gets hand in the play sheet and he's give me nervous, 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: he's gonna be excited, he's gonna be anxious, and he's 48 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: gonna get his feet wet. But I think to take 49 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: out of this one other thing. In fact, I did 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: an interview in Austin earlier today and they asked me 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: about that. It had hit me as I was talking 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: about it. The Texans will have two new play callers, 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: two rookie play callers heading into twenty twenty. Interesting. I 54 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: had thought about that. I had thought about that until 55 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: like WHOA kind of hit me. But it's not always 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: a bad thing. When you got two really intelligent, hard 57 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: working guys like Anthony we were and Tim Kelly, I 58 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: could live with that. Play call is one thing. Game 59 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: plan is another, and they've got experienced game planners in 60 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: the building both and Kelly in that group as well. 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: Otherwise he wouldn't even get this opportunity. All right, let's 62 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: get right to it as we welcome. I'm in the 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: head coach and general manager of the Houston Texans, Bill O'Brien, 64 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: is that title? Okay, now you want to be coach. 65 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it was in the press release. I 66 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: didn't know what my protocol was. We have a great 67 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: team of people here. Okay, we're laughing and nobody can 68 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: see us laughing, but but we do have an excellent 69 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: team of people here that are I mean we I 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: really want that emphasized relative to our our organization. We 71 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: have an excellent team of people. You know, we have 72 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, Jack Easterby, We've got you know, Matt bask 73 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: and Kevin Krakovic. Um, you know we've got James Lipford 74 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: during this time of the year, you know, college scouting director. 75 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a lot of different people that 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: are doing a lot of work. So that's a big 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: emphasis point for me. How important is all that work 78 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: that they've been doing and how have you joined in 79 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: or fed off of that, because I know you've been 80 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: super busy since the conclusion of the season. Yeah, we're 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: definitely a little bit behind, you know, from a coaching standpoint, 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: entering into the draft, they the college scouts have done 83 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: a great job of, you know, basically narrowing the list 84 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: down a little bit, you know, giving us their evaluations, 85 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: handing out the duties you know, relative to the film 86 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: that we all need to watch as coaches. And now 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: we're here and this is another part of that process. 88 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're trying to catch up to them. The 89 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: scouts are always a little bit more ahead of us 90 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: on those things during this time of the year, and 91 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: so we're in catchup mode right now. Coach, what's the 92 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: first thing that you want to do the season's over 93 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: and you know, and I heard you talk about this, 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: you want to evaluate what you have on your team, 95 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: which is obviously most important. What do we have, what 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: do we need? How do we move forward? But then 97 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: when you jump into this draft process, that's the first 98 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: thing that you typically do to start into the draft process. Yeah, 99 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: so the first thing, like you said, when the season's over, 100 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: take a little time off. When we come back, we 101 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: evaluate our team. You know, we put together our our 102 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: own thoughts relative to our needs, and you know that 103 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: involves everything you know, medical, you know, playing evaluation, contractual situations, 104 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 1: all those different things, and then we then enter into 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: basically a combination of free agency. We look at, you know, 106 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: after we've got our needs and what we think we 107 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: need to do. We know what's in the draft, and 108 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: we know what's in free agency. Now you're kind of 109 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: comparing those lists. If there's more of this in the draft, 110 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: and maybe that's something you would do in free agency 111 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: and vice versa. And so we we are kind of 112 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: beyond that phase right now. We kind of know where 113 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: we're at with relative to that, and now we're we're 114 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: the last couple weeks in preparation for the combine, watching 115 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: as much film as we can on the guys that 116 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: are here, not all the guys that are here, but 117 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys that are here. And now 118 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: we're here, We've watched game tape on a lot of 119 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: these guys, and now we can watch them work out 120 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: on the field, we can interview them at night. There's 121 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: informal interviews going on in the stadium as we speak, 122 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: and trying to, you know, formulate this picture of a 123 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: player that hopefully, someday could potentially help your football team win. 124 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: You always talk about turning the page week to week, 125 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: but season to season, it's a different deal. And these guys, 126 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: it's more than fifty three players because of injuries and 127 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: everybody you use, and these guys do everything you ask 128 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: of them, and then you have to make these really 129 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: difficult decisions on their future. Some of them might fit, 130 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: some of them might not. But you also have contractual 131 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: things coming into place. That's got to be a tough price. 132 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard because you you know these guys. 133 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: That's one of the things you want to do the 134 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: best you can as we move forward here in this 135 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: structure of how we're doing it. We have good players 136 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: on our team. We want to keep them on our team. 137 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: You know, we want to keep as many of these 138 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: good players that we've developed, that we've put time in 139 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: with that we feel a real loyalty to. We want 140 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: to keep them on our football team. It's is it 141 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: one hundred percent doable? It's hard, Vandy. It's hard to 142 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: do that, Johnny, because, like you said, you've got salary cap. 143 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: You've got to you know, you've got to do what's 144 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: right for the organization, what's right for the team. So 145 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: certain times, tough decisions need to be made. I think 146 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: we're in the process. Now, we're we're very creative as 147 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: to how we look at things. I think we're in 148 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: a good phase right now, and I think we're gonna 149 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: be able to hopefully keep a lot of guys that 150 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: were that were important to our team last year. So 151 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: hopefully we can get that done. But it's it's it's 152 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: hard to say that all of that can get done. 153 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: You know, we've got to do a great job of 154 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: evaluating one's here and and and trying to add some 155 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: of these guys to our team. Coach, I don't know 156 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: if you saw vander mock version one point oh yet 157 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: did you do it for him? Or did he do it? 158 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: He did it? He did your mock coming out? How 159 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: many mocks he doesn't do it one? I don't do one. 160 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Actually much to have a mox six, I don't. I 161 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: don't do him mock. I do. But Harris one hundred 162 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: his first round pick that he mocked to you left 163 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: tackle by named Laramie Tunsil. What can you tell us 164 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: about Laramie Tunsil. It's a player for your team. Well, 165 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: it's an important point to make right that you made 166 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: an investment and a player that was extremely urgent and 167 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: important for the success of this team. Is Yeah, No, 168 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's that's a way to look 169 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: at it. There's no doubt about it. I mean that was, 170 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, part of the deal. You know, we felt 171 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: like we had to fix that position. Laramy came in 172 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: here and made a Pro Bowl and made his first 173 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. There's certain things that Laramie's gonna work on 174 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: to get better at, but he's a great player and 175 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: we're very happy he's on our team. And Kenny was 176 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: part of that deal as well. Kenny. Kenny had a 177 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: good year, as you guys know, Kenny got a little 178 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: bit banged up at times, but overall fought through it 179 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: and had some really you know, important catches for us 180 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: and important wins. And yeah, Kenny, Kenny was a big 181 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: part of our team. Coach as a as a coach, 182 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: and you've been in his business for a long time, 183 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: so you've seen coaches come and go. Staffs change all 184 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: the time. It's just a man nature of the business, 185 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: high school, college, pro nature of the business. How tough 186 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: is that though, for a head coach to be able 187 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: to look at his staff and say, I've got to 188 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: make these changes here, I don't want to do it 189 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: because I like the staff, but I've got to make 190 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: these changes. How tough is that part of the process 191 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: for you took the coaching staff and the things that 192 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: you know you need to do and have to do. Yeah, 193 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I think anytime you're the leader of a 194 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: football program, you have to make tough decisions. Now, some 195 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: of those you know guys leave, you know, they maybe 196 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: they have a better opportunity somewhere else, or they have 197 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: family somewhere else and they you know, and you know, 198 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: sometimes you have the ability to to to block the person. 199 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: You know, we've done that for we don't want to 200 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: lose a person. But if the guy has an opportunity 201 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: thinks it's a better one, then you know, we let 202 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: that happen. But at the same time, there's things that 203 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: you have to do to try to reinvent yourself every 204 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: year and as a team and as a coaching staff. 205 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's some of the things that you 206 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: just have to make tough decisions, you know. Um, you know, 207 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. I mean, I don't 208 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: think there's any other way around it. And you have 209 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: to go with your instincts and what your gut is 210 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: on it and try to do what's best for the team. 211 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: You know, that's what you're trying to do. You're trying 212 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: to do what's best for the players, for the team, 213 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: and so those those are that's with every decision we make. 214 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: So when you have a guy like Tim Kelly, I 215 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: know you've been asked a lot about him today, but 216 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: you started out with him grat assistant and you spot 217 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: ability in him at an early time, I would imagine. 218 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: And then Anthony Weavers now coordinator. You see these potential 219 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: skills in them from an early time, so you monitor 220 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: that as it goes along. How does that play out 221 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: for you? Yeah? I think that um. When you when 222 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: you look at Timmy and Tim Kelly and Anthony Weaver, 223 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: you you're first looking at the person, right. They're both 224 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: great people. They're very smart, they're very hard working. The 225 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: players respect them. They're they're good in front of the unit. 226 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: They're they're they're energized on the practice field. They know 227 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: what they're talking about. They have a grasp of the 228 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: big picture. They're not just in their bubble world. They're 229 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: they're not just in the d line world or in 230 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: the tight end world. They're there there they see the 231 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: big picture and they're able to to understand, you know, 232 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: how to attack a defense or attack an offense. And 233 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: I think that's important and as a head coach, you 234 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: have to be able to see that and you have 235 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: to you always, in my opinion, it's always great to 236 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: promote from within. If you can promote from within, now 237 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: you have kind of a chain of of of people 238 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: coming up through the pipeline that know your system and 239 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: know how you do things, and that can that can 240 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: you handle that responsibility. That's what's happened with Anthony Weaver 241 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: and Tim Kelly. They've earned the right to be coordinators 242 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: and that's what they're going to be. Coach. You touched 243 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: on this a little bit. Teams have different philosophies for 244 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: how they do things. Got draft and developed versus side 245 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of free agents And I know where you 246 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: fall all on this, but there would be a lot 247 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: of people that are you've got a lot of cap room, 248 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: you go sign this guy, You'll sign that you got room, 249 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: You got to spend all this money, And it's not 250 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: the way really football teams are done. But what is 251 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: the value in drafting and developing versus going out and 252 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: spending money. You're having a cap to find free agents 253 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: for your team. So when you look at the cap, 254 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: when you look at the salary cap, you don't just 255 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: look at it for this year. You have to project 256 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: for future years. Um. You know what that all your 257 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: decisions that you make can affect cap. Obviously this year, 258 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: next year, the year after that. You've got some some 259 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: some big contracts coming up. You know, there's there's a 260 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: couple of guys. You know, everybody knows that, so you 261 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: have to take that into account. Um, and then you know, 262 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: relative to free agency, if the big difference that I've 263 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: learned from mistakes you know that I've made, is that 264 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: in the draft, you really get to know these guys. 265 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're you're meeting with them face to face, 266 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: You're you're going to their school, You're watching them on 267 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: the field, you're bringing them to Houston, You're seeing him 268 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: in different environments. So by the time you get to 269 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: the point where you're drafting Deshaun Watson, you know Deshaun Watson, 270 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, and you feel really good about what you're drafting. 271 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: In free agency, you don't always know the person's he's 272 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: he's coming from a place that maybe does things a 273 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: little bit differently than you do, or you know, you 274 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: just never really you never really spent that much time 275 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: with them in the draft process, and you know, I 276 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: think there's there's a there's a part of that where 277 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: you got to be careful. Now, over time, we've had 278 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: really good success with kind of the fabric guys in 279 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: free agency. You know, the Terrell Adams, the Taiwan Joneses, 280 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, these type of guys that have the the 281 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, the guys that we've picked up during a year, 282 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, roster moves during a year, DeAndre Carter, you 283 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, we've had really good success 284 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: with that. And so that's the part of free agency 285 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: that I think is good because maybe you have a 286 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: guy in your staff that hey, I coach that guy, 287 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: or we know the guy and we you know, we 288 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: trust our our thoughts on that guy. And so there's 289 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: a lot that goes into that. But it's a great 290 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: question and something that we always we're never torn about it. 291 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: We just we debated a lot and that's what it is. 292 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: All Right, Much more to come with our interview with 293 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: head coach Bill O'Brien coming up here. From Indianapolis. It's 294 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: Texans All Access and Indianapolis. So much going on. Next segment, 295 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: we'll have James Palmer on from NFL Network to go 296 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: over some of the doings here at the NFL Scouting Combine. 297 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: But let's get right back to our conversation with Bill O'Brien. 298 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: Year seven for you. Here we are at the combine 299 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: and we we joined to the first guys, what do 300 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: you guys think about that? You totally see you just 301 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: you just just be so sick of me. Seven years 302 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: of this? Ohohoa, whoa, I've got thirty years of this? 303 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Thirty? We get thirty years? 304 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: We talk a year seven that was thirty years ago. 305 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: So yeah. But it's funny because the first combine you 306 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: had twenty fourteen, all the media stuff was over in 307 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: the building in the Lucas Oil Stadium Club level area. 308 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: I got to interview Bridgewater and a walk in time. 309 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean it was wide open. This this thing is 310 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: very different. What about the prime time stuff? Like, how 311 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: has that changed for you? The way they're going to 312 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: structure these workouts this year. I think we all need 313 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: to embrace it. I think that um, it's about the fans. 314 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: You know, that's the reason why we have a game. 315 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: We have great players and great fans, right and you know, 316 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: they put it on prime time. They change some of 317 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: the drills to make it more TV friendly and also 318 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: make it safer for the players. So some of the 319 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, offensive line drills will be a little bit different. Uh, 320 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: some of the drills will be different, which I think 321 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: is good. And I think a lot of people are 322 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: gonna watch. Yeah, and I think these kids. I think 323 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: it will help for these kids to know that they're 324 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: on prime time, that they're gonna have to be at 325 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: their best. That's the first that's a pretty good test. 326 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: You know, we're out there. You know, this is here, 327 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: it is there's the bright lights right here. I mean 328 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's kind of the underwear Olympics. 329 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: But there's something to that. Um And so, you know, 330 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: I think it's good. I think we're all getting used 331 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: to the new schedule. Interviews used to be at night. 332 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: Now they're during the day. That's a little bit different, 333 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's good. They're paying us to 334 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: coach football, evaluate football. I mean, yes, that's uh, that's 335 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Everybody wants to watch the four because that 336 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: has a number that people can sort of not necessarily 337 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: relate to, but they understand that what's a drill that 338 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: the fans should watch out for other than the forty 339 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: that they might find interesting in your opinion, or maybe 340 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: that you find it foresting, you know. I don't know 341 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: how much they'll show some of these, but I think 342 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: the short shuttle is a for certain positions. It is 343 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: a very for all positions, really, but for certain positions. 344 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: I can remember, like Julian Edelman had the best short 345 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: shuttle of anybody at his combine, Whereas he may not 346 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: have had the fastest forty, but he had a great 347 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: short shuttle, so you knew he was going to be 348 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: really quick, um, kiki kuti. You know though, he had 349 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: a great short shuttle, you know, And so I think 350 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: that's an important one. Um. I think that when you 351 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: look at, you know, some of the movement drills for linemen, 352 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: their ability to move their feet and get up off 353 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: the ground and change direction, I think those are those 354 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: are really good drills. And then obviously I think the 355 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: quarterback wide receiver throwing is pretty cool to watch. It's hard, man, 356 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: These quarterbacks are throwing to guys that they've never thrown 357 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: to before, right, and so that's hard. You know, that's 358 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: hard for those guys, and so that's always interesting to 359 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: watch that. Can a quarterback do something here to really 360 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: screw up his chances in your opinion? Or is it 361 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: all about the tape? I'm just talking for myself. I 362 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: would say no. I mean unless the guys just no, no, 363 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: if he came in here and acted like a jerk, right, 364 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: that probably wouldn't help him too much. But but if 365 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: he came in here and he you know, he only 366 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: completed you know, fifty percent of his passes or whatever. 367 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that that would be a 368 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: It's not the it's just a part of the evaluation process, 369 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: not the it's not the whole thing. There's no way, 370 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: there's no pass rush, there's no you know, they're just 371 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: out there, you know, throwing on air. You mentioned earlier 372 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: about interviews, and you mentioned forty five and you threw 373 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: that out there. It's been sixty past. Yeah, now it's 374 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: forty five. I know you. I don't if enjoys the 375 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: right word, but I know you. You like getting to 376 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: know these guys a little bit. And whether you get 377 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: a chance to draft them or not. Was it frustrating 378 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: for it to be cut from sixty to forty five? 379 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: That you lose those fifteen interviews? I mean you do 380 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: have some on campus interviews, but those are I think 381 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: at thirty. Does that frustrate your at all to lose 382 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: the fifteen or do you feel like forty five is 383 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: a good number? Forty five? I mean sixty was a grind. 384 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: Yeah for me personally, Like when you got the fifty 385 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: nine were like punch drunk, you know what I mean? 386 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: But you're right, I do. I do love that part 387 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: of the process where you get to know Titus Howard. 388 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: You know, you got Tightus Howard in the room and 389 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: you're you know, you get you get to really know him. 390 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's frustrating. I think there's a lot 391 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: of different ways that, you know, for those fifteen that 392 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: you didn't get. You know, you can go to their campus, 393 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: you can, you can you know, have maybe they're part 394 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: of your thirty man visits. Uh, there's different ways to 395 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: make up for that. Was there a moment you brought 396 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: up Titus and as somebody we haven't talked a ton about. 397 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: I think because we missed him the last four or 398 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: five weeks, but he is invaluable to this team. Was 399 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: there a point where you're like, that's that guy, we 400 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: want that guy. He is tights Howard. Yeah, was there 401 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: a moment of Dev watched him on tape Alabama stake 402 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: Um and Dev liked him right off the bat. Tough, 403 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: came off the ball, definitely a little bit raw, you know, 404 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: relative to you know, where he had, where he was 405 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: in his football experience. And then when we made him 406 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: at the combine, I mean we I probably shouldn't tell 407 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: this story. Amy would probably be mad at me if 408 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: I told this in our formal in our formal interview room, 409 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: sometimes we have guys demonstrate their position. Have I ever 410 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: told you this story? I got the board or just 411 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: maybe they write it on the board, but then they 412 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: actually physically or whatever they yeah, yeah, getting their stance 413 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: and you know, come out of their stand or show 414 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: us your stance or whatever, you know, like sometimes and 415 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: so we had him, we had him just come out 416 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: and talk to us about, you know, how are you 417 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: going to reach this three technique? What's your footwork like? 418 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: And so Timmy Kelly was the three technique and so 419 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: he thought that we meant like block Tim Kelly and 420 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: there's not that much space, so like there's maybe let's 421 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: just call it ten feet from where Tim was the 422 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: three Technique and where the there was like a bay 423 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: windows was a you know one of those Marriott you know, 424 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: like apartment type you know what do they call those things? 425 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: Crown Royal? Yes, right, and so like I actually was 426 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: looking for a whistle because I had. If I didn't, 427 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: I blew we We randomly had a whistle. So I 428 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: picked up the whistle and I blew it because Titus 429 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: Howard was about to put Timmy Kelly through the bay window. 430 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: Got to make this team I have ever seen anything 431 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: like And I'm like, well, we'll stop stopping blow the whistle. 432 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was but that was the meeting where 433 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: we knew we had a guy that was gonna be 434 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: a great Texan. What about being here in Indy? Do 435 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: you like this environment this city as a working environment 436 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: for this event? I know what you're asking there. I 437 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: think it's gonna change probably at some point in time. 438 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: But uh, I think it's the way that that this 439 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: is all set up where everything's connected hotel and stadium 440 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: and everything in between is just a great setup and 441 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: running to everybody. And that's the thing too, Like I've 442 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: after doing it for a while now, just have great 443 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: respect for the other head coaches. I really enjoy seeing 444 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: the other head coaches, the other general managers. There's a 445 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: lot of great people in this league. Um, you know, 446 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: I was in a meeting the other day with Andy 447 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: Reid and Mike Zimmer and Mike Vrabel and Anthony Lynn 448 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: and John Harbaugh. You know, I mean, these are great 449 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: guys that care about the game, that are just awesome 450 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: at the top of their profession. And I think that's, uh, 451 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: that's I'm always very very grateful for the opportunity. The 452 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: first couple of years we talked to you and we 453 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: talked about being amongst that group. And you obviously you've 454 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: been doing it for a year or two now, you've 455 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: been not just seven years. You're one of the senior 456 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: coaches if you will in the NFL. Does that as 457 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: you get in those meeting rooms, do you like to 458 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: share the information a little bit more because you've been 459 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: there and some of these younger guys haven't sharing any 460 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: information with those It's a doggie dog league, man, No, 461 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: we know I'm kidding. We we um. We definitely share 462 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: our thoughts on on playing rules, on things that we 463 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: think affect the game. I mean, we don't really talk 464 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: that much about xs and o's and this and you know, 465 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: we ran this play and this is how we run 466 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: this play. It's not really like that. But we definitely 467 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: share our thoughts on how we think the game should 468 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: be officiated and how we can help the officials and 469 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: things like that, no doubt about it. Okay, this one, 470 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: I know is is maybe not something it's not in 471 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: play yet. But are you paying attention? I know you're 472 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: paying attention, but how much attention are you paying to 473 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: what's going on with the CBA and how that might 474 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: impact team building, contracts all that kind of stuff going forward. Yeah, 475 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: we're definitely paying attention. But we but you can't, you know, 476 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: put all your eggs in that basket because you don't 477 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: really know. I mean, you have an idea. We've talked 478 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: to Cal a couple of times. He gives us an 479 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: idea of how he thinks it's going because he's in 480 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: those meetings, and you know, we we think we have 481 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: an idea, but until it's actually a dun deal it's 482 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: hard to say. You know, it sounds like, you know, 483 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: players aren't happy with a couple of things. Whatever it is. 484 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I think that we've got to wait and see how 485 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: it all shakes out. But we try to try to 486 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: keep up to date through different websites on what we 487 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: think is you know, going on? All right, last one, 488 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: do you have a youth sports update for us? Michael? 489 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: They they they won last night in a on a 490 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: walk off walk. Oh boy, which is a tough way 491 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: to win if you ask me, you know what I mean, 492 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: and lose, yeah, obviously, but I mean when you win 493 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: on like a walk, it's kind of anti climactic. But 494 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, it was good. It's been cold. I went 495 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: to a couple of games and uh it was it 496 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: was forty five degrees at one game. That's was like 497 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: Houston Lutheran or something, Houston Lutheran School. Well not, I mean, 498 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: you played baseball. You guys got outside of Massachusetts. What 499 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: May June? We were in a gym. We were in 500 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: a gym like at least a month or two. It's 501 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: one of those fake mounds. Well I don't even know 502 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: if they had the fake mom, but the batting machine 503 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: and I ride. We used to mess around and I 504 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: got suspended for like a game because I turned it 505 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: up too high and almost oh jeez, here we got 506 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: a kid. I turned into a hundred and put a 507 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: baseball in there and it grazed a kid. Coach a 508 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: lot of the time. Good luck, thanks guys. Okay, Johnny, 509 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: there it is as coach makes his way out of here, 510 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: and great to visit with him. We haven't talked to 511 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: him for a while. So a lot going on, a 512 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: lot on his plate. Oh yeah, I mean when you 513 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: look at when you look at what he's done with 514 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: the staff, you have to do all the offseason stuff. Anyway, 515 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: he admitted they were a little behind in some ways 516 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: and the coaching part of it, as he's added the 517 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: GM duties. But you know, to them being behind is 518 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: not normal people behind. It's like I'm behind on my taxes. 519 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: What It's April fourteenth and I'm trying to get it 520 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: done and filed in time. It's not quite like that 521 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: with these guys. They have a whole bunch of stuff, 522 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: a whole routine they like to go through after the season, 523 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: and you know it's all gonna get done. Yeah, Well, 524 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: there's no question they'll get their boards said it's not 525 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: said already, and they'll they'll be totally fine. And it's 526 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: one of those situations where the coaches coming into this 527 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: have to really rely on the scouting staff, both pro 528 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: and college, to be able to say, Okay, look, we've 529 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: done a pretty thorough analysis of our squad and what 530 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: we need, and this is what we this is what 531 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: we're looking at. Hey, we need I don't know. Let's 532 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: just say we need a offensive linemen that can jump 533 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: forty five inches. I don't know. Whatever the scouts say, Okay, well, 534 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: here are the five guys I think you need to 535 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: watch then, right, And so I think the scouts become 536 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: that much more important because they're the ones that obviously 537 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: been following these guys, these college players are particular. The 538 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: pro scouts are the ones that have seen those other 539 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: teams play throughout the years, and so they can add 540 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: the context to what the coaches want. That's why it's 541 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: quick to say that we have a team appear Absolutely. 542 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: He's always said that, and he continues to rely on 543 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: them because you know, people say, oh, you're the general manager. 544 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: It's not one guy. It's never one guy. It's a 545 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: whole squad of people who go through this whole process, 546 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: no doubt. And I mean, we could talk about the 547 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: best gems in the game. I don't care you're talking 548 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: about NFL Hockey, Major League Baseball, talking about the best 549 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: general managers in the game. They're one of those general 550 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: managers that does things just completely unilaterally to him her. 551 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: It's not about that one person. It's about what's what's 552 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: best for the team. What have my people told me, 553 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: What have my people brought to my attention? What have 554 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: they now? The ultimate decision, as it does with anything, 555 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: it falls on the boss. It falls on the person 556 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: that is given the responsibility. Something happens to our department, 557 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: it falls on your shoulders, unfortunately, but that's that's what 558 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: happens in any business. It falls on the boss's shoulders. 559 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: And we just know that in this case it's it's 560 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: Bill o'brian' shoulders. It's gonna fall on. But it probably 561 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: has been that way for a while anyway, so it's 562 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: no different. Really. It's just everybody's got titles now, and 563 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: as we were told at some point, millennials like their 564 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: titles all right quick. Because we have James palmeron in 565 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: the next segment. Biggest takeaway of Day one as far 566 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: as people we've talked to around Radio Row and as 567 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: it pertains to the Houston Texans, because I'll give you 568 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: mine it wants you at first, Well, mine is that 569 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: when you're outside the market and you look at all 570 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: the people and listen to all the people who look 571 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: in to what's going on at Houston, they are envious, 572 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 1: they are impressed. They are saying that, hey, you're one 573 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: of the teams that has a shot to win it 574 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: every year as long as you have de Shaun Watson 575 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: and build correctly around him, which they are in the 576 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: process of continuing to do. And I think that it 577 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: gives you a little bit of a breath of fresh air. 578 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're inside the market, inside the bottle, as 579 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: they say in marketing, sometimes you don't really see it 580 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: the right way. And I think it is good to 581 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: be around the rest of the guys in the league, 582 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: the rest of the peeps in the league, and experience that. Yeah. 583 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: I think there are a few things that stood out 584 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: to me today. Number One, I accomplished a dream, which 585 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: was I grew up as a young adult listened to 586 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: Frank Frangie and always wanted to be in a show. 587 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: You and I. Finally I was able to do that. 588 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: Today I didn't realize this was Yeah, we were on 589 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: a show. Yeah, we were on a show, and I 590 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: was that was ultra cool because I was young adult listening. 591 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: That's what I really got interested in. Were Colts show too? 592 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: Was that a dream that you had? Since it now? Probably? 593 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: I love Matt. Matt's great, but the voice of the 594 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: Colts is incredible. Dudes, that I was on the Titan Show. 595 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to brag, but I was on the 596 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: Titan Show with Mike Keith today. That was a Titan amy. Yeah, 597 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: so there, so there was that the um. The other 598 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: one is that that came to me was be careful 599 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: of open mics because you never know what is caught 600 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: back to you. So definitely at that point. And I 601 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: would tend to agree with you on my third one, 602 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: and that is how the Texans are perceived nationally, and 603 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: that is they've got some They've got some dudes led 604 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: by number four. Yep, there's an opportunity because you have 605 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: number four. I mean, if you were going to sum 606 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: it up in one sentence, they've got some dudes led 607 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: by number four. I liked that a lot. James Palmer, 608 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: we like him a lot. We're gonna catch up with 609 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: him from the NFL Network. It's coming up next on 610 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Keeping it going from the NFL Scouting Combine 611 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis joining us right now. It's James Palmer 612 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: of the NFL Network and James, we had to come 613 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: to Indie just to have this conversation with you. This 614 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: is my favorite part of Indianapolis, coming and finding out 615 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: where you guys are located, to this giant room and 616 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, where is Texans Radio? That's how can I 617 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: get my time with these guys? And actually I got 618 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: stalked down by John while I was walking through and 619 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: he started making fun of me. He goes, in Kansas City, 620 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are right behind. I mean the Chiefs are 621 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: right behind. Yeah. I mean you have to pop through 622 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: right when I'm done. Yeah, of course, I mean you 623 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: can just do that right over there. Of course I 624 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: was needling you because you were for so long. Yeah, 625 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: and we've known. I know where my heart is, I 626 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: know where my past. I mean, in fairness to you, 627 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of have to be a front runner, 628 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: right I mean, you're not going to spend a lot 629 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: of time at the Bengals during the season. I mean 630 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: it's not really called front running. It's following like the 631 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: eight biggest stories that are happening in the NFL. Like 632 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: I guess we are frontwners. I am always covering somewhat 633 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: of the winner unless something crazy happens with the loser. 634 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: In each game, I'm more or less covering the winner. 635 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: But somebody does have to be with Patrick Homes at 636 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: some point during the season. I was assuming that was 637 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: that was a tough job. I got to I got to, 638 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, do and I did both the games against 639 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: the Texans, the regular season game in the playoff game there. 640 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: What was that like going through an experience with them, 641 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: seeing them go through that all the way through for 642 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: the first time, and you obviously on a few game 643 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: you talked to those players that are winning championships for 644 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: the first time. What was that experience like for you? 645 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: You know, it was cool. I compare it to the 646 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: run in seventeen when I was with the Eagles, from 647 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: when we thought something special was kind of happened in 648 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: week fourteen after you know, you see Carson go down 649 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: and then something just kind of clicks. And it was 650 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: the same with this team, like if you remember, they 651 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: were completely different team. And it's funny I mentioned Week fourteen. 652 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: It was kind of like Week twelve for the Chiefs 653 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: where they became a whole new team. And when you 654 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: see somebody click down the stretch, you kind of just 655 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: know something's happening. I mean, you saw that defense was 656 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: just a completely different defense after the game in Mexico 657 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: City where they beat the Chargers and they just it's 658 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: just everything started falling into place. And that's the same 659 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: thing with Philly. So it's kind of fun being around 660 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: it and just kind of seeing like, all right, well 661 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: they're they're really gaining a lot of confidences each week 662 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: goes on. And the cool part about about this Chiefs team, 663 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: and I like to see this happen with teams, is 664 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: they did it entirely the way they are, Like Andy, 665 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: let them be them. Frank Clark ran his mouth to 666 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: me NonStop. He did run his mouth and he just 667 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't stop. And you know what, they all were allowed 668 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: to be who they were tying rate a great locker room. 669 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: Everybody in Houston knows what kind of leader he is 670 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: from his short time there and still was unbelievable, and 671 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: it was just remarkable to watch the confidence grow and 672 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: the way it went, and it was just it was 673 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: cool for a franchise that has been around for so long. 674 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: My dad covered Andy Reid and Philly forever, so it 675 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: was neat to see Andy finally finally get when. That 676 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: was kind of the really neat part. James Palmer with 677 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: us NFL Network. So you're Denver based, you're from the 678 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: Philadelphia area, and you've seen Denver win a super Bowl, 679 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: You've seen Philly within a super Bowl. I know you 680 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: keep your emotions out of it. You spent a long 681 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: time in Houston covering the Texan, but it's got to 682 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: affect you in some way to see what happens the Chiefs, 683 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: what they did, being down to twenty four nothing and 684 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: all of everything that comes into playing all these games. 685 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: It does it really, I mean it really does. You 686 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: start like little things and you start developing these relationships 687 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: with guys, and you know, I'm texting guys on Saturday 688 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl and they're hitting me right back 689 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: like hey man, love, you're covering us all year Like 690 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: like I'm like, man, I don't want to say I 691 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: was pulling for the Chiefs. When I was pulling for 692 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, that's who I was with through the stretch, 693 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: not the forty nine ers. And it's like, you know, 694 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: I've seen these guys put in the work, Like you know, 695 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: I've seen what they've done. I've seen a lot of 696 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff. I talked to a lot of people, 697 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: and you know what the team is put in. You're like, hey, man, 698 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: like talking to Brett Veach on the sideline, their general manager, 699 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: who's one of the people in this league for some 700 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: reason doesn't get any credit for what he does, and 701 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't get it, but he's wearing a Lamar Hunt 702 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: jacket on the sideline for the super Bowl, and he's like, 703 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: I stare at a picture of Lamar Hunt in this 704 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: jacket like in my office regularly, and I figure there'll 705 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: be no other outfit I should wear to the super Bowl. 706 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 1: And then the guy who came up with the name 707 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: super Bowl and using Roman numerals then wearing a Lamar 708 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: Hunt jacket. And it's not like, Man, these little kind 709 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: of side stories when you're around the team. You guys 710 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: are around the text, like when Houston goes on a run, 711 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: you start gaining that emotion with the way you're covering 712 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: the team too. Were you as surprised today at all 713 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: about the news of Tim Kelly taking a word? I 714 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: think we'd all heard about the Anthy Weaver news and 715 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: Tim Kelly had been the office coordinator. But I just 716 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: checked the one of the websites in Houston, one of 717 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: our local news, breaking news, Bill Lebrin give up play calling. 718 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean away, were surprised, I don't know it's breaking news. Yeah, 719 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what Were you surprised? I was when 720 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: I first heard it, I was like, oh, yeah, I 721 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: am a little surprised. But now that I've like dissected 722 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: I just talked about on NFL Network, it makes a 723 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: little bit of sense to me because of conversations I've 724 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: had with Bill and how much we know he respects 725 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: Tim and what he thinks of Tim as a coach. 726 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: I remember having a conversation with Billing, like, Hey, how 727 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: much play calls he has he been doing for you? 728 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: He's like, WHOA, don't get him out of my building 729 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: just yet. Like I want to hang on to Tim 730 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: as long as I can. And to me, that's kind 731 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: of like, okay, Yeah, like, let's keep letting him grow 732 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: as a coach who's a very very good coach, but 733 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: let us have him keep growing in our building and 734 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: not go somewhere else. So to me, it's a little 735 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: bit of a smart play to be like, all right, Tim, 736 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: like you you've earned this, let's do this, and we 737 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: all know how much is on Bill's played. I know 738 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: this is probably a tough call, but I don't think 739 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: for two reasons. One, this is what he thinks of Tim, 740 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean, to give up what he loves to do, yeah, 741 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: and that's great. And the other part is if this 742 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: doesn't show you what he thinks he has and Tim is, 743 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else would. Yeah. So 744 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: I think that was once he started digesting it, right, John, 745 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,239 Speaker 1: like you started going okay, well this kind of does 746 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: make make a little sense. Yeah, James Palmer, NFL Network 747 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: joining us. So what do you think the league around 748 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: the league from the outside looking in thinks of the 749 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Texans situation going into twenty twenties? So much to do 750 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: this is just a combine way of free agency, draft, etc. 751 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on that? Yeah? I mean 752 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: I think the entire league knows what Deshaun is, and 753 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: that's like, that's where we're at in this league right now. 754 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: Right you put him in that group of like Lamar 755 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: and Pat and Deshaun and and it's kind of like, 756 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: all right, this is this is gonna be who's replacing eventually, Gosh, 757 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, in another fifteen years, Brady Freeze and Rivers, 758 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: Like this is the most Yeah, this is the new 759 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: face of the league. And you have one of those, 760 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, one of those faces of the league. So 761 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: I think everybody knows that DeShawn still hasn't started that 762 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: many games in his NFL career, right like he you 763 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: look at I think how quickly Pat has been successful 764 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: overshadows how quickly DeShawn has been successful, and the growth 765 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: that he's had in his in his years. I think 766 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: he gets over shadow because there's another guy that's just 767 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: doing it at an unbelievable level too, just maybe a 768 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: little bit higher and quicker. So I do think the 769 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: perception is you got one of the best players young 770 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: players in football. I think they got I think everybody 771 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: know they got both tackles pretty much locked down now 772 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: for a long time, Like I thought Titus played well 773 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: and I think they really from what I'm told, and 774 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: happy with him and then lay me when they get 775 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: the deal done that's gonna be. I mean, I just 776 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: think defensively, you got to figure out hopefully the change 777 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: at DC and Anthony coming in that you have an 778 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: idea of how you're going to change things defensively, because 779 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: that was I mean, every single time I checked the 780 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: waiver wire, somebody was coming in in the secondary to 781 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: Houston to see if we can, you know, find a 782 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: way to help this past defense and if you can 783 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: get some sort of interior pass rush. I think that 784 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: that's something that's needed. But I don't think they're I 785 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: think people know they're a good team, Like they're definitely 786 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: a team that's like gonna be there, and then if 787 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: they do these other things, it's kind of like, all right, 788 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: well now I got to really look out where as 789 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: played quarterback roulette. Okay, you don't have to go too 790 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: far much of a gambler, but okay, but I've done 791 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: this with Mark. We've done us a little bit. So 792 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: you get a chance. Name is with my money or 793 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: Mark's money your money? Okay, Tom Brady will play for 794 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: the blank in twenty twenty we will play for the 795 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: New England Patriots in twenty twe Okay, okay, some of 796 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: the Patriot media is not as confident as the outside 797 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: media about that happening. True, I try, and I think 798 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: he is definitely And when I say that, I do 799 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: believe he is going to look at all of his 800 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: options and he is going to listen to other teams 801 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: and see what's out there. I think Tennessee is a 802 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: viable place. I think Miami is actually a viable place. Um. 803 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: But I just think when all of it comes to 804 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: a head, I think something's going to happen to where 805 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: he's going to realize that, all right, this is where 806 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: I should may come back. How about unbelievable to my 807 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: buddy Mike Silver, Joe Montana dropping that in the middle 808 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: of there. Did you see that? At our pregame show 809 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl, Silver sits down with Joe Montana 810 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: and Joe Montana goes. I think Brady should stay. It 811 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: was the worst decision I ever made going to Kansas. Yeah, 812 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, and he brought it up on 813 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: his own. I mean, we're talking to Mike has this 814 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: relationship with with Joe, and it's mainly because he played 815 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: for both the teams in the Super Bowl, and he 816 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: brings in Brady like I would tell him to stay 817 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: and he didn't do No, he didn't, he didn't. And 818 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: I thought that was a really interesting take. And I 819 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: just think he really just wants pieces around. I mean, 820 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't think that's you know, that's been that. And 821 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: I do think it's all gonna come down to if 822 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: Bill wants him, though, I mean, that's that's going to 823 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: be the case. Philip Rivers is the quarterback of which 824 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: team in twenty twenty? Oh, this is a tricky one. 825 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: I think this is the hardest one of all. Yeah, 826 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: this one's tough, man, because there's like three quarterbacks and 827 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's Brady that we're all looking at 828 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: right now. I think we're seeing what happens with Dax, 829 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: what's happening with Tannehill, and no breezes off the way 830 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: really though, Like those two are huge, Like if they 831 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: keep Tannehill, that eliminates the Titans from every right right right, 832 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: if they tag him right, if Das gets tagged, they're kemmune, 833 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: and then that changes the flow I think of this 834 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: entire quarterback market. If those two are off. I think 835 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: Indy is my call for Philip Rivers. Okay, Jamis Winston 836 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: is the is he is starting quarterback? And if he is, 837 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: where is he in twenty twenty? How about Bruce Arians today? 838 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 1: I know what's gonna happen with Jamis. I'm gonna tell anybody, 839 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: Oh that means he's keeping him. Oh, I think there 840 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: is a part of there is a second day. He 841 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: loved him and hated him, Yes he did, and you 842 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: know what, that definitely is true. As the season went on, 843 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: there were points, there were points where Bruce Arians really 844 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: went out of his way to be like that was 845 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: not on Jamis, Like at certain points in press conferences 846 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: on Mondays, like I want you all to remember, that's 847 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: not on Jim. So he had his back. But that 848 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of changed as the season went on. It was 849 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: starting to be like I was, that might have been 850 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: on Jams and so. But it's just it's he's such 851 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: an enigma of like you can't throw picks like that, 852 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: but man does he put up numbers and get you 853 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: back in games and just answer question the quarterback in 854 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty in I think he's gonna be a backup 855 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: quarterback next season, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say he's 856 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna go the Tannehill out and like find a spot 857 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: where he might yet able to play. Like my play 858 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: is Chicago has to do something the way Tennessee did, 859 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: and like maybe Teddy's that guy and you just be 860 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: like And the hard part is because because Mitch is 861 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: such a likable guy and the team loves him as 862 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: a dude. Yeah, but I think like if like Teddy 863 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: landed there, it's just like, Okay, let's just buy your 864 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: time or say or like maybe even jamis like, oh, 865 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: let's see, like that's a team that should make a play. 866 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: So last one, last one, because I think I think 867 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: this one gets to be pretty difficult. Oh we know 868 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: for a fact the starter in twenty nineteen will not 869 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: start in twenty twenty. The starting quarterback for the LA 870 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: Chargers in twenty twenty is I'm gonna go crazy and 871 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna laugh at me. I'm think it's gonna be 872 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Okay, you also say rookie, say rookie done 873 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: it before start? Yeah, I'm gonna say Tyrod, all right, 874 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: they play it safe. Man. That team has a history 875 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: playing it safe. I think you're right. I think it's 876 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: Tarad to start. I think they draft the rookie. I 877 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: think they draft either Herbert or two and then they 878 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: let tar They let Tarat go for as long as 879 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: you can, and then if it's just like then they 880 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: go to the rookie and then they try and live. Yeah. 881 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's great frantic litz future, but 882 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: I think that's the way they go. James got pieces though, Man, 883 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: what is your week like here? I know you're doing 884 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: a lot of TV hits. Do you do you work 885 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: the the underground circuit at them in the underground belly 886 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: mark at the tavern, trying to get the scoop? Do 887 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: you do a lot of that? Okay, this is all 888 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: about buying the right coach, the right cocktail. I mean 889 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: it's all. But no, I mean you you try to 890 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: like I go around the league all the time, and 891 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: so like now it's a little bit of a you know, 892 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: more relaxed setting and you yeah, talk about hey, when 893 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: I was with you guys week five, like I know 894 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: what really happened? You know what I mean? You kind 895 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: of go over some of those things and it's just 896 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: like trying to just keep those relationships alive with a 897 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: lot of those people, because it's like without when you're 898 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: not with one team. Yeah, it's tough, man, Like, Hey, 899 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you guys in a year. Please let 900 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: me know what's happening. You need that FaceTime at this point. Yeah, 901 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: you know. So it's great to see all those people. 902 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: And you know, I got meetings with you know, my 903 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: bosses and stuff that I don't ever see that. Everybody 904 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: lives in LA except me on my little island, covering 905 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: the league in Denver and moving around, so you get 906 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: to see all these people that you see only a 907 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: couple of times a year here owner meetings and super 908 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: Bowl is really the only time you see a lot 909 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: of these people. So it's it's fun. I mean it's 910 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: I think it's a blast. I try not to sleep 911 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: as I try to sleep as little as possible. I 912 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: accomplished that last night. What you get, uh, nothing, got nothing. 913 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't think anything. I try. I try bringing down film. 914 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, that's what he's doing. I wish I 915 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 1: would have last night. I did on the plane here. 916 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: I did on the plane here, and that was really 917 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: the only way to get over my flight anxiety because 918 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: I did not fly well oh my oh when we 919 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: were in the little cigarette jet, Oh glad I didn't 920 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: look over. I was on a little Tuzy and a 921 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: TUSI that's a little guy. Yeah, I was on a 922 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: small one. But yeah, this is I mean, it's weird 923 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: because this is a different year than other years, right, 924 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, And I think it's kind of interesting to 925 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: see how this kind of plays out and with the 926 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: going on everything. It's just it's hectic here, man, It's 927 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: but it's fun. I mean it's fun. James stocks a 928 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: lot for joining us. Yeah, that's gonna do it for 929 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: the show tonight. Great top Billow brianon earlier. This will 930 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: be on the Texans app shortly, along with the rest 931 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: of our coverage of the NFL scouting combine. We'll be 932 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: back with the show tomorrow night at six. Have a 933 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: great evening and go Texans.