1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day, if Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: dot Com, the radio, plus mobile apps and on your radio. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg business flash from Bloomberg World Handquarters. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pellet. Stalks of a race their monthly gain 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: amid thin trading volume. Apple slumping ahead of Friday's jobs report. 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: The dollar rose, Oil fell. West Texas Intermediate town one 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: point three percent now down sixty two cents forty six 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: thirty six for barrel of West Texas intermediate crude, Brent 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: crude is down one point nine percent. We'll have more 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: on oil coming up on the show today with Stephen 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Short of the Short Group. We've got the tenure down 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: four thirty seconds, that yield one point five seven percent, 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: SMP down nine to seventy, A dropped there of four 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: tenths of one percent down, Industrials down ninety, A drop 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: of five tenths of one percent, Gold down eleven sixty. 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: The ounce a drop there of nine tenths of one 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: percent right now an ounce of gold thirteen twelve. I'm 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: Charlie Public. That's a bloom Bread business flash. You're listening 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: to Taking stock with Bim Box and Kathleen Hay's on 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Are you feeling a more confident, more upbeat 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: about the possibility of a raise this year or the next, 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: more upbeat perhaps about the opportunity to change jobs. Well, 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: then you might be one of the people that the 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: New York based Conference Board talked to in their latest survey. 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: There are a measure of consumer confidence increased to nearly 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: a one year high. The expectations gauge also climbing present conditions. 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: It's best treating in nine years. So what is driving 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: this and can it last? Let's put that question now 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: to Lynn Franco. She's director of Economic Indicators at the 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: Conference Board. Lynn, welcome back. Good to be back, Kathleen. 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: So one oh one point one. That's pretty uh good 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: beat by the forecaster above the forecast of the highest 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: since September. So what what's going on here? Well, we've 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: seen sort of a combination of factors. We had a 35 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: nice increase in the present situation component and that's now 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: at back to pre recession levels, so it's been sort 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: of a long climb. Expectations also gained some grounds, So 38 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: I think overall, consumers are feeling a lot the more 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: positive about business conditions, employment conditions, UH, and the outlook 40 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: ahead is a little bit improved as well. Now let's 41 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: go right to one of to me, the most important 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: parts of this latest report, the Conference Board survey. It 43 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with the labor market. It 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: seems to pretty well reflect what people are seeing at 45 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: work or you know, their their neighbor down the street, 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: maybe even their own family. And you ask if jobs 47 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: are getting more plentiful, if they're about the same, or 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,559 Speaker 1: they're hard to get and the jobs are plentiful. Response 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: was pretty good in this report, absolutely climb to twenty 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: six percent, and that's at the highest level we've seen 51 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: since August of two thousand and seven. UH. And also 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: worth noting is that business conditions good also UM UH 53 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: spiked up a bit and that's at levels not seen 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: since actually two thousand and one. And business conditions tend 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: to precede employment UM, you know, as conditions have to 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: improve before employers add more to the workforce. So I 57 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: think overall it's pretty good for both, you know, the 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: economy as a whole and for the labor market. Yeah, 59 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean two thousand seven, that's right before the UH, 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: before the crisis started about a year later. It was 61 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: before the housing bubble had really bursts. So to be 62 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: at that level in terms of jobs are plentiful something 63 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: that it seems very significant. However, those claiming jobs are 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: hard to get also rose. It went from twenty two 65 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: point one percent of your respondence to twenty three point 66 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: four percent, So if you think about it, yeah, there 67 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: the months piece seeen jobs are plenty of well somewhat 68 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: outnumbers those who are having a tough time still though 69 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: nearly a fourth of the people you talk to think 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: that it's not that easy to get a job right 71 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: now right, And part of that could be that, you know, 72 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: we're seeing more people now willing to come back into 73 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: the labor market, so we get a little bit of 74 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: a spike there, But overall, I think that's been holding 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: at a relatively a good level, and the fact that 76 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: we continue to see improvements in business conditions hopefully as 77 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: a prelude to even further improvement in the employment picture. 78 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: And of course, uh that's also a very important simple 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: observation that the labor market is very flexible, and people 80 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: come and go, and if you don't think you're going 81 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: to get a job, then maybe you do just you, 82 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: because work live on your savings, you'kick unemployment and then 83 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: when you think things are getting better, that's when you say, aha, 84 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: I'll start looking at it for another job. But don't 85 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: you interview the same group of people for a long time. 86 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: Do you find that within your survey that the people 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: come and go as much as they do from the economy, Well, 88 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: it's always a different set of folks every month. But 89 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: I think overall it's it's the trend, and I think 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: the trend has been you know, despite these months to 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: month fluctuations that the job situation has improved. The percentage 92 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: if we go back a few years of people saying 93 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: jobs are hard to get has come down significantly. So 94 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: while we get sort of these little fluctuations months to months, 95 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: overall it's it's quite an improvement from you know, close 96 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: to let's say, safety percent almost back at the height 97 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: of the Great Recession, who were saying jobs were hard 98 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: to get. Buying plans, there's a lot of questions there 99 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to housing, when it comes to cars, 100 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: what did you see in your latest surveillance, Well, we're 101 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: seeing that, you know, in terms of intentions to purchase. 102 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: Let's saying otto, that's that's holding up pretty well, and 103 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: I think that's reflected in what we're seeing in the 104 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: other data. A little bit of an uptick in home purchasing. 105 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: We know, that's sort of a double sort of prices 106 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: have been going up, so that tends to uh, you know, 107 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: sort of uh, I guess block a few folks from 108 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: accessing due to lack of credit and a variety of 109 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: other factors. But overall, I think that's positive and that 110 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: tends to lead to uh, you know, folks buy more 111 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: durables to replenish either what's going in the home or 112 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: to you know, sort of furnish new home. So overall, 113 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: I think this is a sort of pretty positive news, 114 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: and I think overall we might see a little bit 115 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: of an uptick in economic growth, hopefully over the next 116 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: couple of months. Uh as the condy strongly for the 117 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve to raise interest rates maybe twice this year, 118 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: Lune or do you think that might throw some cold 119 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: water on consumer confidence and they're concerning confidence about business conditions. 120 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: I think the consensus still is that what we might 121 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: get one rate hike most likely at the end of 122 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: the year, very unlikely that we would get to from 123 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: what you've seen in consumer confidence. Do you agree? Do 124 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: you think that's a good idea just to do one hike? Um, 125 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: I mean spaked into sort of consumer confidence when we 126 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: take a look at sort of the you know, uh, 127 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: interest rate to expectations. Most people are already expecting that 128 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: one hip. I think if we were to have to 129 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: that would really attend shock folks, as I think one 130 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: is sort of baked in. Two would be an exception. Yeah, 131 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: might just might just burn that cake around the edges. 132 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: All right, Lynn Frankel, thank you so very much. He's 133 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: director of Economic Indicators at the Conference Board, talking about 134 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: and helping move up in consumer confidence. People's question about 135 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: our jobs getting more plentiful. The best bestens just before 136 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: the Great Recession. I'm Kathleen Hayes, and this is bloom 137 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: Bird Case Shiller. Home price is closely watched in the 138 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: economy at the FED to Reserve among home builders, and 139 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: they're continuing to rise. Find out why it's not foreign 140 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: money that's driving it. That's next on taking stock