WEBVTT - Can Julie Become a 'Regular' at a Pub in Ireland?

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<v Speaker 1>What prompted you to solo travel for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to see her and it was now or ever.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't see that much anymore these days.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first time I've done it.

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<v Speaker 4>They were very intrigued by me walking in there, because

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<v Speaker 4>I went pretty much crocodile dum d.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I get the same sour got yesterday? The ginger sour?

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm at the diving board right now and I

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<v Speaker 5>think I'm going to jump in. This is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you nervous about anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Everything.

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<v Speaker 5>This is Solita stories of what really happens when you

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<v Speaker 5>travel alone, the beautiful, the messy, and the moments where

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<v Speaker 5>you say yes and surprise yourself. I'm your host, Julie Pine.

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<v Speaker 5>The first time I ever traveled by myself was on accident.

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<v Speaker 5>I was twenty one years old, studying abroad in Barcelona.

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<v Speaker 5>I planned a spring break trip to Italy with some

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<v Speaker 5>Americans from my program, and then a few days before

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<v Speaker 5>the trip they all dropped out. But I still wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to go, so I did. I visited Rome, Florence, Milan,

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<v Speaker 5>and Cinque Terre completely solita. I expected to feel lonely, but

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<v Speaker 5>I found that I met more people because I was alone,

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<v Speaker 5>I made more eye contact, I asked for help, I

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<v Speaker 5>got more invites, like the time I said yes when

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<v Speaker 5>a group of strangers invited me to dinner, where the

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<v Speaker 5>restaurant owner flooded us with free lemon cello. He ignored

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<v Speaker 5>the other patrons just so he could calmly sit and

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<v Speaker 5>tell us his stories. That whole night felt like magic.

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<v Speaker 5>When my semester in Barcelona ended, I wanted to keep traveling,

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<v Speaker 5>but I was as a broke student. So I asked

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<v Speaker 5>around and I discovered one of the cheapest ways to

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<v Speaker 5>stay in Europe was to walk across it on a

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<v Speaker 5>trail called El Camino Santiago Compostela, otherwise known as El Camino.

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<v Speaker 5>The main Gamino path is a five hundred mile walk

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<v Speaker 5>across the north of Spain. I carried everything on my back.

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<v Speaker 5>I slept in hostels for no more than eight euro

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<v Speaker 5>a night. I woke up at dawn. I ate cans

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<v Speaker 5>of tuna on the side of the road, and I

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<v Speaker 5>prayed in churches that my feet wouldn't give in too blisters.

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<v Speaker 5>And the beautiful thing about the Gamino is that even

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<v Speaker 5>if you choose to walk it alone, you're never really alone.

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<v Speaker 5>My first few days, I sinked my pace with an

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<v Speaker 5>elderly Irish man who was walking his own solo trail.

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<v Speaker 5>He was in his seventies, following in the literal footsteps

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<v Speaker 5>of his late daughter, she completed the Gamino alone a

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<v Speaker 5>few years back, and then she sadly took her own

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<v Speaker 5>life earlier that year. He walked with her Camino passport

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<v Speaker 5>in hand, which tracked her exact route with stamps from

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<v Speaker 5>the hostels and restaurants she visited. As we followed her

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<v Speaker 5>trail together, I started to notice that this elderly man

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<v Speaker 5>called the same person every night before bed. I assumed

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<v Speaker 5>it was a family member, maybe his wife, but when

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<v Speaker 5>I asked him, he told me it was his publican.

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<v Speaker 5>That's when I learned that in Ireland, the publican is

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<v Speaker 5>the guy who runs your local pub. So my new

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<v Speaker 5>friend was doing pillow talk with his bartender. I was tickled.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a ritual that screamed, go take on the world,

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<v Speaker 5>but hurry back. You belong here in this pub. I imagined

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<v Speaker 5>the Irish pub as this magical place where, of course

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<v Speaker 5>everyone knows your name, but also your mom's name and

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<v Speaker 5>your bad moods and your favorite song, and now the

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<v Speaker 5>stories of how you conquered Spain on foot. I finished

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<v Speaker 5>the Camino and I continued my travels across the world alone.

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<v Speaker 5>In Morocco, I learned to surf. During the quiet months

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<v Speaker 5>of Ramadan. In Tijuana, I made friends with Lucha libtefighters

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<v Speaker 5>and Argentina. I fell asleep on a bus, woke up

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<v Speaker 5>in the wrong town, and then lived there for over

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<v Speaker 5>a month. I was the girl on the back of

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<v Speaker 5>the vespa in Monaco. I flew to Edinburgh just to

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<v Speaker 5>see the clowns. And I've contracted dysentery and bedbugs more

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<v Speaker 5>times than I would ever admit on a podcast. Now

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<v Speaker 5>I prefer traveling by myself, even when I do have

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<v Speaker 5>people to go with. It's where I'm closest to my

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<v Speaker 5>own curiosities. And you know what, fifteen years later, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>still thinking about that irishman and his publican. What did

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<v Speaker 5>he have in that pub? And what is the DNA

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<v Speaker 5>of that feeling of belonging? Could I ever belong in

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<v Speaker 5>a pub in Ireland? How much could I even belong

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<v Speaker 5>in a new place when I'm just passing through Solita?

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<v Speaker 5>Now I know I can't answer these questions from the

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<v Speaker 5>Solita headquarters of my bedroom closet in Brooklyn. So in

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<v Speaker 5>the spring of twenty twenty six, when I get my

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<v Speaker 5>own chance to travel to Ireland, I make it my mission.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to become a regular at an Irish pub.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it fifteen years ago?

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<v Speaker 5>I was doing the Caminoda Santiiro, which is like a

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<v Speaker 5>pilgrimage walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Across the north of Spain, the Camino the Camino.

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<v Speaker 5>I started my Ireland trip in Dublin for one night

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<v Speaker 5>before traveling to a tiny mountain town called Kilfinnan for

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<v Speaker 5>an audio arts festival. That's where I met John and

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<v Speaker 5>we quickly became friends. John's in his late fifties. His

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<v Speaker 5>family's been in Ireland for generations and he inherited the

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<v Speaker 5>family farm, although he retired early, saying he was bad

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<v Speaker 5>at farming. John offered to drive me to the bus

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<v Speaker 5>station where I'd be catching my bus to Galway to

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<v Speaker 5>start my five days of solo traveling. So, of course

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<v Speaker 5>I took the opportunity to pick his brain about the

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<v Speaker 5>importance of publicans. Do people not usually have that much

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<v Speaker 5>of a relationship with Republicans? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>In a small tone, you do absolutely, yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 1>that relation. Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what.

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<v Speaker 5>That's Well, when I'm in Galway, my mission is to

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<v Speaker 5>try to become a local at a pub.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what did that involve? I don't know who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to win the match? What do you think it involves.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's possible? Well? Probably probably not. How

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<v Speaker 1>long are you inna go before four nights? Okay? If

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<v Speaker 1>you go in there every night, you know you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>You won't be a regular, but you will be a

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<v Speaker 1>you will be known. How long do you think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to become a regular?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say in your case, being a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>a looker, I would say if there was a man

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<v Speaker 4>behind the counter, i'd say the second night.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh god, but that sounds like a bad regular.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, what's it like in New York? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know? No, I don't go.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a bar in my neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little too expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>I would never go every night because it's just as

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<v Speaker 5>a part of the It's not lady.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not lady. Why do you say that, I'm gone

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<v Speaker 1>be old fashioned over That's not the case. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case here. No, but I mean, I was.

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<v Speaker 5>At a pub in Dublin and I had this really

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<v Speaker 5>friendly older gentleman buy me a drink, and when he

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<v Speaker 5>found out I was alone, he was like, Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to stick by you because I actually I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't want you to be lonely. You're a woman here alone.

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<v Speaker 5>And I thought it was really well intentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm sure it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was well intentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was a sweetheart. And I also thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was like.

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<v Speaker 5>It was showing something inappropriate. No, but like I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>need to be protected in that way, like I can

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<v Speaker 5>find for myself being alone, and I actually sort of

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<v Speaker 5>like being alone. In Spanish, a female alone translates to sola.

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<v Speaker 5>Solita is a little more complicated. That diminutive etha gives

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<v Speaker 5>the word a layer of pity. Ah she's alone, poor thing.

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<v Speaker 5>In Puerto Rico, where my family's from. It also invites

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<v Speaker 5>gossip or cheese me ahino solita, Ah, she came alone.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll never guess why solita gets wielded against women, as

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<v Speaker 5>if being alone is a mark of failure. But when

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<v Speaker 5>a woman reclaims the word for herself, say being a solita,

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<v Speaker 5>she's owning the power of solitude as a deliberate tool

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<v Speaker 5>of possibility. When I tell people I'm traveling alone, I

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<v Speaker 5>get one of two opposite responses. First is disbelief. They

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<v Speaker 5>say I'm brave, maybe reckless. They show concern, They ask

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<v Speaker 5>about safety, about loneliness, as if I shouldn't be doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>The other response is a resounding applause, which I will

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<v Speaker 5>credit with the popularity of the early aughts book and

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<v Speaker 5>movie Eat Pray Love. This response assumes that the world

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<v Speaker 5>is simply a backdrop from my journey of personal transformation,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a Western fantasy, and neither of these responses

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<v Speaker 5>leaves room for the reality. Traveling alone as a woman

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<v Speaker 5>is risky, and it's beautiful, and it's messy, and you'll

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<v Speaker 5>probably learn over and over that the world is not

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<v Speaker 5>your oyster. But I don't think that that should hold

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<v Speaker 5>women back from taking the plunge, and the numbers show

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<v Speaker 5>it hasn't. A study found that over three quarters of

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<v Speaker 5>all solo travelers identified as women in twenty twenty five US.

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<v Speaker 5>Women make eighty two percent of all travel decisions in

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<v Speaker 5>the home, so it makes sense that they turn their

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<v Speaker 5>decision making onto themselves. There was a huge uptick in

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<v Speaker 5>Google searches for the phrase solo female travel in twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty two, and then something broke open at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of twenty twenty five because those Google searches hid an

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<v Speaker 5>all time high, nearly tripling overnight. Experts say that the

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<v Speaker 5>broader shift points to women having more socioeconomic independence. Look

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<v Speaker 5>at women from ages twenty five to forty four, Morgan

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<v Speaker 5>Stanley predicts that in just five years, almost half of

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<v Speaker 5>those women will be single. They're not only free from

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<v Speaker 5>the financial responsibilities of having to raise a family, they

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<v Speaker 5>also don't have the built in travel buddies. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>not just women in childbearing ages. It's also women like Chris,

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<v Speaker 5>who I met in my hostel in Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>How long have you been solo traveling? First experience? And

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<v Speaker 1>how old are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty?

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<v Speaker 1>And what prompted you to solo travel for the first time?

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to see her and it was now or ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you hoping somebody would come with you?

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<v Speaker 2>I had asked my son to come, but he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get the time off, so I didn't want anyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do what I want when I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you nervous about anything? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything?

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<v Speaker 5>In a study of almost three thousand solo female travelers,

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<v Speaker 5>personal safety is the number one worry. Number two is

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<v Speaker 5>higher costs. The next few worries something bad will happen,

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<v Speaker 5>language barriers, and a worry about dining alone, feeling lonely

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<v Speaker 5>and getting lost. Hi, is this the best to gall it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Great, you got to get her.

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<v Speaker 5>What time is this and it's four thirty? Oh that's

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<v Speaker 5>six thirty. Oh shoot, I get my Times message. Is

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<v Speaker 5>it okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Take this one? Thank you so much for your kindness.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>If you couldn't tell by me booking the wrong bus ticket.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a type B traveler. The only thing I really

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<v Speaker 5>book when I arrive to a place is my accommodations.

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<v Speaker 5>I book a hostel in the center of Galway, walking

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<v Speaker 5>distance to dozens of pubs, and then the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>my plans I leave up to chance. And since I'm single,

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<v Speaker 5>why not crack the door open for a bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 5>On the bus to Galway, I open Hinge and I

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<v Speaker 5>edit my profile to say I'm traveling from New York

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<v Speaker 5>looking for someone to show me their favorite spots in town.

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<v Speaker 5>I start swiping and one of the first profiles is

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<v Speaker 5>a man named Mark. He's cute, he's creative, and he's Cuban.

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<v Speaker 5>I message him, saying, another Latino in Ireland, and within

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<v Speaker 5>an hour we've made plans to get coffee. The next day.

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<v Speaker 5>I step off the bus in Galway, drop my bag

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<v Speaker 5>off in the hostel, and head out for my first

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<v Speaker 5>walk around the city. And within four minutes of my walk,

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<v Speaker 5>I spot Mark from Hinge outside of a pub. I

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<v Speaker 5>avoid him for now and wait for tomorrow's date, but

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<v Speaker 5>obviously I voice note my best friend, how small is

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<v Speaker 5>this city? Literally just spotted him on the steps of

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<v Speaker 5>a pub. That's fucking crazy. I keep walking, and just

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<v Speaker 5>twenty minutes later I start to hear Puerto Rican SOUTHSA

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<v Speaker 5>music blaring down the street, music from my tiny archipelago

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<v Speaker 5>in the Caribbean here in Ireland. I run over, Are

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<v Speaker 5>you guys dancing?

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>New York, New York. They offer me a beer and

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<v Speaker 5>we dance for over an hour. They invite me to

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<v Speaker 5>come dance with them at a local pub. Later on

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<v Speaker 5>that week, a woman from Uruguay named Pamela tells me

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<v Speaker 5>that she works at a nearby bakery. I told her

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<v Speaker 5>I would definitely stop in the next morning for coffee.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. I visited Pamela for the same reason I'm

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<v Speaker 5>wanting to become a regular at a pub. It's something

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<v Speaker 5>that I chase in every new place I visit. I

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<v Speaker 5>travel the world hoping to see something new, but to

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<v Speaker 5>feel familiarity. One of the world's most famous travel writers,

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<v Speaker 5>Rick Steves, has written about it. He outlines three different

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<v Speaker 5>ways to travel. He says you can either travel as

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<v Speaker 5>a tourist, a traveler, or a pilgrim. A tourist is

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<v Speaker 5>there to consume. They seek relaxation, entertainment, and escape from

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<v Speaker 5>their regular life. On the opposite side of that spectrum

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<v Speaker 5>is the pilgrim. They're there to challenge themselves in search

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<v Speaker 5>of some sort of personal transformation. And then right there

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<v Speaker 5>in the middle between the tourist and the pilgrim is

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<v Speaker 5>the traveler. The traveler arrives to a due place wanting

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<v Speaker 5>to be a temporary local. They're willing to exchange comfort

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<v Speaker 5>for realness, hoping to immerse themselves in the experience of

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<v Speaker 5>what it might be like to actually live there. And

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<v Speaker 5>I don't really stick out as a visitor in Ireland

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<v Speaker 5>as a white Latina, I have the privilege of not

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<v Speaker 5>getting bothered by racial microaggressions or stereotypes or intrusive questions

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<v Speaker 5>about my heritage or appearance. White women have been at

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<v Speaker 5>the center of popular Western narratives of female solo travel,

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<v Speaker 5>so these nuance of identity are often under explored, and

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<v Speaker 5>I do think my diasporic identity plays into my desire

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<v Speaker 5>to become a temporary local. I grew up in the

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<v Speaker 5>continental US with two parents from Puerto Rico who had

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<v Speaker 5>only just moved from the archipelago a year before I

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<v Speaker 5>was born. I grew up feeling like I was neither

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<v Speaker 5>Kei Nida. Yeah, neither from here nor from there. So

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<v Speaker 5>when I travel, I'm always sort of seeking an understanding

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<v Speaker 5>of what it's like to belong to that place. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>the only thing missing is my regular pub, so I

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<v Speaker 5>hit the road to start looking for it. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 5>one didn't really even have a bar or anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>In the city was kind of empty.

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<v Speaker 5>Group is there an upstairs? I stop into it. Least

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<v Speaker 5>least seven pubs on my first night in Galway. I

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<v Speaker 5>need to find a pub within walking distance to my

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<v Speaker 5>hostel for safety late at night, but they're all full

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<v Speaker 5>of other tourists, so I give up on my search

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<v Speaker 5>for the night, and I go back to my hostel discouraged.

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<v Speaker 5>I lay in bed with a bad case of the

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<v Speaker 5>night one blues. It happens almost every trip. On the

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<v Speaker 5>first night, I'm tired, feeling out of place without my

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<v Speaker 5>usual comforts and routines, asking myself what am I doing here?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm spending my hard earned money on myself, hoping to

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<v Speaker 5>find something profound. I can't even find a pub. I

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<v Speaker 5>almost give up on my mission completely until the next night.

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<v Speaker 5>I've exhausted all the old school Irish pubs within walking distance,

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<v Speaker 5>and so when I pass a craft beer bar, I

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<v Speaker 5>walk in, Hey are you yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>It is?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what's like your specialty here. I've been

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<v Speaker 5>given three pieces of advice for becoming a regular at

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<v Speaker 5>a pub. One go regularly, two make friends with the staff,

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<v Speaker 5>and three have good crack which stay with me here

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<v Speaker 5>translates to creating good banter at the bar. So I

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<v Speaker 5>walk in and immediately I connect with the bartender, Sean.

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<v Speaker 5>Today is Monday, and Sean tells me that on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 5>my last day in Ireland, he's quitting his job at

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<v Speaker 5>the pub to finally pursue his career as a writer.

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<v Speaker 5>And I can't help but cheer him on. I talk

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<v Speaker 5>to the woman at the bar next to me. She's

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<v Speaker 5>here every night because her dog is scared of other dogs,

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<v Speaker 5>so eleven pm is the only time she can take

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<v Speaker 5>her for a walk. I ask Sean for a drink recommendation,

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<v Speaker 5>and he pours me a sour beer, which feels scandalous

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<v Speaker 5>in the land of Guinness. I leave after two beers.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like to get drunk when I travel by myself,

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<v Speaker 5>and on my way out the door, I say, see

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<v Speaker 5>you guys tomorrow. Did I just find my pub? After

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<v Speaker 5>the break? A whirlwind romance that stops before it starts.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the best parts of traveling by yourself is

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<v Speaker 5>asking for help. You really can't pretend that you know everything,

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<v Speaker 5>and being by yourself, people tend to go out of

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<v Speaker 5>their way to help you. When I go on a

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<v Speaker 5>free walking tour, which is one of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 5>to do in a new city, I ask my guide

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<v Speaker 5>Anna if she has any advice for my mission to

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<v Speaker 5>become a regular at a pub. Anna is an immigrant

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<v Speaker 5>from Brazil and she's been in Ireland for ten years.

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<v Speaker 5>She fell in love with this country. He came an

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<v Speaker 5>Irish historian and it turns out pubs actually shaped her welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I tell her about my elderly Irish friend

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<v Speaker 5>from the Camino, she helps me fill in some of

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<v Speaker 5>the blanks I see.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody in the pub was actually just like, oh geez,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like do you know Sheamus, He's just going

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<v Speaker 4>up now doing the Camino like Jesus Christ. Fair play

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<v Speaker 4>to him, you know, like the whole lot. And then

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<v Speaker 4>he would just ring from there and just share a

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<v Speaker 4>few of the stories with the public, you know, which

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<v Speaker 4>your men, the bartender or something. Then he would share

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<v Speaker 4>all the news around, you know, because you have to

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<v Speaker 4>think not just what you were doing on your side,

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<v Speaker 4>that you were just chatting with your meny he was

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<v Speaker 4>ringing the public and every time, but imagine the impact

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<v Speaker 4>of his actions back here in Ireland, like me coming

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<v Speaker 4>from Brazil, you know, the population of Ireland is the

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<v Speaker 4>same population of just my city alone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love.

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<v Speaker 4>Being a small country liketist. And in Ireland there was

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<v Speaker 4>just this immediate gentleness, like they look you up and down.

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<v Speaker 4>They know, we're just like, oh, come in here, one

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<v Speaker 4>of us now.

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<v Speaker 5>I tell Anna about my fascination with pubs, and it

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<v Speaker 5>turns out when she first arrived to Ireland, one of

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<v Speaker 5>the first few jobs she could get was as a publican.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I can tell you a funny story about that. So,

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<v Speaker 4>So I used to work in a pub called the

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<v Speaker 4>Old Triangle in Lockray, just outside of go Away, like

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<v Speaker 4>small little town, you know, just all the drinking regulars

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<v Speaker 4>would be like, you know, older men and they're like

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<v Speaker 4>fifty sixty seventies plus ish kind of vibe. There'll be

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<v Speaker 4>like a karaoke every Friday night. There would be like

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<v Speaker 4>country music every Saturday night. It was hopping, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like it was the place. They were very intrigued by

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.120
<v Speaker 4>me walking in there because I went pretty much Crocodile

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<v Speaker 4>Dundee style. I really needed a job and I never

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<v Speaker 4>worked in a pub before, just arrived in Ireland, and

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<v Speaker 4>I said, listen, I do need a job. I'm competent.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go for it, like see what I can do

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<v Speaker 4>if I get a trial. And first of all, I

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't understand what my boss was saying. He taught like

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I have no chance of working here.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't even understand your man bosh. I went for

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<v Speaker 4>I managed and I learned very quickly the gift of

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<v Speaker 4>the gap, you know, the chatting, the understanding and the locals.

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<v Speaker 4>They go to a pub, and they continue going to

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<v Speaker 4>a pub for a reason because they're well taken care

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<v Speaker 4>of there. It becomes a natural dance once you learn it.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to be the main person behind the bar,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just you know, kind of locking up and everything,

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<v Speaker 4>and I would be there just pouring a few slow

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<v Speaker 4>pines for them, as they call it. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>realized at some point in my life that my social

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<v Speaker 4>life was basically just having the full on chats with

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<v Speaker 4>those like five six older leads and then in the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the night just being the taxi driver to

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<v Speaker 4>all of them. And it was just the most hilarious

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<v Speaker 4>thing because I would have my car full of them

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<v Speaker 4>leads and me being like the baby streit, just like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh let's go and behavior, oh gid, you cannot smoke

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<v Speaker 4>in here or go on or get out now. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I wasn't expecting for any payment to bring

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<v Speaker 4>them around, you know, and any of that. But one

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<v Speaker 4>day my boss will be like, whit a minute, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because you always poke like a dinosaur. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, have you you guys have no shame

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<v Speaker 4>of yourself, Jesus Christ, look at this young lady there.

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<v Speaker 2>Just bring your guys around.

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<v Speaker 4>You would pay a TAXI, why would you not pay her?

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<v Speaker 4>So everybody was just like, oh, Jesus personally go like

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<v Speaker 4>twenty quid into like the recal story. So it was

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<v Speaker 4>always such a lovely natural way of interacting. And then

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<v Speaker 4>I went to watch the Saint Patrick's parade in Lockray, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And then I realized when I was watching the parade

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<v Speaker 4>with a friend of mine that I knew all the

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<v Speaker 4>leads that were in the parade. They were driving the tractors,

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<v Speaker 4>drinking a pint of Gainness as they were driving on

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<v Speaker 4>the parade, and I was looking at it, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, God, I am really part of this because

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<v Speaker 4>I know all them leads, I know all their stories,

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<v Speaker 4>I know the whole lot. And that's the beauty of

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<v Speaker 4>becoming a local. In my case, I was working a

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<v Speaker 4>very different magic, but very very beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>If the marker of belonging in a place is walking

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<v Speaker 5>down the street and seeing a person, you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>might be able to check that box off. You know

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<v Speaker 5>what's funny is I think I saw you yesterday?

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<v Speaker 6>Really?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Right? When I read arrived, the city was walking up.

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<v Speaker 5>It made the world feel smorlow. I was surprised to

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<v Speaker 5>learn that my Cuban hinge date Mark is from the

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<v Speaker 5>US and he's been living in Galway for over six years.

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<v Speaker 5>He was also a child actor, and he starred in

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<v Speaker 5>some of the shows and movies I watched religiously on

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<v Speaker 5>the Disney Channel as a kid. How's that for familiarity.

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<v Speaker 5>Two hours go by and we're seated at a table

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<v Speaker 5>inside of a coffee shop that looks exactly like the

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<v Speaker 5>coffee shops back home in Brooklyn, and it's a wonderful date.

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<v Speaker 5>At the end, we're both buzzing and he says, I

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<v Speaker 5>have a workout class now, but do you want to

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<v Speaker 5>hang out when I'm done. This would have been a

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<v Speaker 5>lot if I was back home, but since I'm only

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<v Speaker 5>in town for three more days, I say yes. Plus,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm travel Julie. I'm not regular Julie. Travel Julie is

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<v Speaker 5>more confident, more outgoing, more adventurous. I go back to

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<v Speaker 5>the hostel after the date to get ready for part two,

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<v Speaker 5>and I meet my new bunkmate. She's also traveling alone,

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<v Speaker 5>and she tells me that she's feeling lonely. She asks

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<v Speaker 5>me if I want to get dinner. I tell her

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<v Speaker 5>I have plans, and I feel a little guilty because

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<v Speaker 5>it's easy to escape into someone else rather than sit

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<v Speaker 5>with the challenge of being alone. I also sort of

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<v Speaker 5>feel like I'm cheating my way out of my mission.

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<v Speaker 5>If I do disappear into a whirlwind romance, I probably

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<v Speaker 5>won't go back to the pub. I will have found

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<v Speaker 5>my belonging as somebody else's plus one. But as fate

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<v Speaker 5>would have it, Mark texts me an hour later something

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 5>came up. He got an audition, which sometimes happens at

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<v Speaker 5>night because of the time change in LA he can't

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<v Speaker 5>meet me for part two of our date. I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>little disappointed, but luckily I do have a place where

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<v Speaker 5>I can go to get some support. How are you

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<v Speaker 5>going to see you again? I was here yesterday, Julie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I good to see you. Julie yeah. Can I get

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<v Speaker 5>the same sour a guy yesterday? The ginger sour? Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I tell Sean about my date. It leads us into

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<v Speaker 5>a deeper conversation about who we both are outside of

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<v Speaker 5>the pub. Sean likes to rave. His favorite writer is

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<v Speaker 5>James Joyce and he's a really big fan of Mayor Zorn.

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<v Speaker 5>Mom Donnie, the woman with the anxious dog, is back too.

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<v Speaker 5>She shows me her forearm tattoo and why she thinks

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<v Speaker 5>it's infected, and then her dog crawls into my lap

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<v Speaker 5>and stays there the whole night. Sean's last day is

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<v Speaker 5>tomorrow before he quits to pursue his writing career, So

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<v Speaker 5>on my way out the door that night, I say, tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 5>we celebrate you after the break. How my very last

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 5>night at the pub turns into a minor crime. The

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<v Speaker 5>next morning, I wake up with dog hair on my

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<v Speaker 5>sweater and a swell of gratitude that I have the

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.959
<v Speaker 5>privilege to board a plane, visit a new country, and

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 5>be welcomed by strangers into intimate places like the pub.

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 5>But belonging goes both ways. I've spent all week asking

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 5>Galway to make room for me. I haven't asked what

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 5>my being here does to them. Can a place protect

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 5>what's its own while sharing it with curious visitors like me?

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 5>I found the perfect place to chase that question, and

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 5>it requires a field trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you come to a little bridge, go over the

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>bridge and straight out to see you hit the.

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 5>Ocean, but i driver directs me to the ferry that

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.120
<v Speaker 5>will take me to the Aran Islands, twenty miles off

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 5>the coast of the Galway Bay. They're historically one of

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 5>the most isolated parts of Ireland, one of the last

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 5>to be colonized by the British, and for that reason

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 5>they're one of the few remaining places where you'll frequently

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:23.959
<v Speaker 5>hear people speaking the Irish language. But today they're also

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 5>a massive tourist destination. I'm visiting the smallest of the

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 5>Aran Islands in a sheer because up until the late eighties,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 5>cargo ships couldn't even pull up to its shore, so

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 5>everything that came onto the island had to be physically

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 5>handed through the side door of a cargo ship and

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<v Speaker 5>onto a small wooden boat the size of a canoe.

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<v Speaker 7>Anchored about quarter of mile out the bay, and bob

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 7>and no waven and up and down with the swell,

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 7>trying to hand babies and livestock and everything in an

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 7>outro small cargo door.

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 5>That's Martin talking about the caraffs or the canoe size boats.

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 5>The Karaff was their tiny bridge to the outside world

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 5>until the port opened up in the late eighties. As

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm biking through the island. Martin flags me down from

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 5>the side of the road to invite me to the

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 5>museum he and his friends built celebrating the history of

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 5>the cararaff. There was something that was protected because you

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 5>guys were so inaccessible for so long.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 7>Exactly it was basically it never changed really really up

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 7>until those years eighty eight eighty nine, the islanders were

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 7>almost self sufficient. They didn't really rely on supplies because

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 7>they could make everything and anything. They had so many

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 7>different crafts and so many different traditions that were handed

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 7>down cultures through the generations.

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 5>You guys went from being very self sufficient with these caraffs.

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 5>When did tourism start.

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<v Speaker 7>It would have been going on to beck to the

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 7>forties or fifties or so. Yeah, it would have started

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 7>off obviously small numbers, tiny numbers.

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 5>In the forties fifties, tourists would have to board a

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 5>cargo ship to visit in Ashear, only to be handed

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 5>off to a car off.

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 7>There have been huge excitement trying to be the first

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 7>car alongside the cargo boat because you kind of would

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 7>have first DIBs on the tours Like they started off

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 7>very small, very slowly, very very gently, like an kind

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 7>of just basically expand and expanding every year since basically like.

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, today with the islands, new port ferries full of

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 5>tourists like me arrived to in Asher multiple times a

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 5>day every day. Tourism has a huge presence.

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 7>I suppose we're kind of heavily reliant on it now

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 7>with the minute as well, because we don't have many

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 7>factories or anything like that. A lot of work through

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 7>tours and like new cafes and new restaurants and new bmb's,

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, we're lucky really at the minute.

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 5>It's hard to see it purely as luck when we're

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 5>standing in museums celebrating the boats that once kept in

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 5>a sheer self reliant. Now the island's economy relies on

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 5>visits from people like me. As a visitor, I am

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 5>always changing a place, rarely for the better. Look no

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 5>further than Mexico City, gentrified beyond recognition by a swarm

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 5>of digital nomads, and it doesn't really matter if they

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 5>identify as tourists, travelers, or pilgrims. And it makes me

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 5>wonder if I even have a right to this feeling

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 5>of belonging when I'm just another part of an industry

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 5>that extracts. I'm really grateful that I stopped in with Martin.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 5>I try to buy a T shirt off of him,

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 5>but he doesn't have my size. And then I arrived

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.959
<v Speaker 5>to the ferry three hours later, and there he is

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 5>standing by the fairy entrance. He found the right size

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 5>T shirt, he told me. He lets me pay for it,

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 5>and I give him a really big hug. I bored

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 5>the ferry back to Continental Ireland. When I arrive, it's

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.719
<v Speaker 5>a thirty minute walk to the bus stop, but my

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 5>bus leaves in twenty minutes. So in that moment, I

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 5>decide to do something I have never done before. I

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 5>stick my thumb out on the side of the road

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 5>to hitchhike. Cars are zooming past me, all of them

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 5>making eye contact. Two older men in a car even

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 5>roll down their window just to laugh at me. More

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 5>than fifteen cars later, someone pulls over to the side

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 5>of the road. I immediately recognize them. It's a family

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 5>from the US that I had met on the ferry.

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, you really saved me. You don't see

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 5>that much anymore these days. This is the first time

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 5>I've done it. I asked them to drop me off

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 5>at the bus to Galway, which is when we realize

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 5>we're both headed in the same direction.

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 8>I'm sure you don't want to stay to this, we're

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 8>going back to going.

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 5>Oh you guys are yeah, you know what? Sure why?

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 5>We drive the two hours back to Galway after making

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 5>a detour to see the Cliffs of Mohair. On the

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 5>car ride back, we chat about the highlights of our

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 5>respective trips through Ireland. We don't touch American politics, which

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm grateful for. And when we arrive back to Galway,

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 5>they invite me out to dinner, but I've got plans

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 5>to meet Mark from Hinge, or at least I thought, Hey.

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 6>I hope you're not trapped on the island, and definitely

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 6>because as fate would have it, I am not able

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 6>to hang out tonight, unfortunately, And that is really sincerely,

0:33:54.920 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 6>no genuine reflection of wanting to hang out. I really

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 6>liked meeting yesterday. I'm connecting and I wish you were

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 6>here for like a couple of weeks, and I'm sorry

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 6>that my yeah, and I'm not able to make the time.

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 6>I'd like to make.

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 5>Mark and I meet the next day for coffee. He

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 5>takes me on a beautiful walk by the river. We

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 5>walk with our shoulders brushing, and we stop across the

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 5>bank from an abandoned castle. As we're watching the water

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 5>flow by, he tells me about something called the black

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 5>Rock Diving Board. It's at Salt Hill Beach. Apparently locals

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 5>love to dive off of it into the freezing ocean

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 5>to swim. The idea is enticing, but I hadn't taken

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 5>my coat off the entire trip. The air alone in

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 5>Ireland is freezing, and it's also my last afternoon in Galway.

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 5>So I tell myself that I'll check it out on

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 5>my next visit. Yes, I am already planning my next visit.

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I feel so comfortable in this city, my

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 5>pub and my publican, and the salsa community, and the

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 5>helpful strangers and this person that I want to see again.

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 5>I feel like I built a little home away from home.

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 5>So I decide right there, surely I'll be back. We

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 5>hug goodbye, and he gives me a recommendation for a

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 5>craft shop nearby, and then later in a voice message,

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:39.919
<v Speaker 5>he finds out that my afternoon took a different turn. Hey,

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 5>so I'm at the diving board right now. After we

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 5>parted ways, I went to the craft shop and I

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 5>actually bought this print of a woman jumping off of

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 5>the diving board. And when I took it to the

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 5>ShopKeep to pay, she was like, oh, did.

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 6>You go there?

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 5>And I said no, I'm going to keep it on

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 5>my wall as a reminder to come back someday. And

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 5>she said, oh, well, you know you've still got time.

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 5>And so I booked it back to the hostel, changed,

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 5>got on a bus, got on the wrong bus actually,

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 5>so then I had to take an uber And now

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm here in my sports bra and running pants. I

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 5>just tried it with a really nice man and he

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 5>told me that it's twelve degrees in the water, and

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm going to jump in, you know. I figure,

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 5>I'm just going to do it while i'm here, just

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 5>take the plunge. But it was really lovely to meet you,

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 5>Like I feel like time really flew while we were talking,

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:52.439
<v Speaker 5>and I think that's really special. I'm pretty rare and

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 5>you're a part of why this trip has felt really special,

0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 5>and I'm going to hold on to that. This is insane.

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 5>Of course, I jumped off the diving board because as

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 5>much as I travel to feel like I live in

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:15.959
<v Speaker 5>a new place, I also love the urgency of remembering

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 5>that I don't. That urgency is the engine of discovery.

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 5>And yes, I travel to discover new places, new customs

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 5>and perspectives, but I also travel to meet new parts

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 5>of myself. Who am I when I'm alone without the

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 5>context of what makes me me back home? Who am

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 5>I when I'm not people pleasing, when I'm not waiting

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 5>for permission, thinking things through a million times? Who am

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I when I decide today is the day I take

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 5>the plunge. As much as I want to come back

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 5>to Galway, the truth is I rarely travel back to

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:05.840
<v Speaker 5>a place once I visited. Even when I do feel

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 5>at home there, there's just so much of the world

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 5>I want to see. It's my last night in Galway.

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.280
<v Speaker 5>The salsa dancers I met on my first afternoon invite

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.879
<v Speaker 5>me to dance at a bar in town. We dance

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 5>for a few hours before I head to my pub

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 5>for the last time. It's bartender Shan's last night, and

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm feeling excited to celebrate him. But when I walk in,

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 5>Sean isn't behind the bar, and my heart drops. All

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 5>this time building this connection. What am I supposed to

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:45.439
<v Speaker 5>do now? This new bartender is a guy I've never

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 5>seen before, and he's gruff with dark circles under his eyes,

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:52.439
<v Speaker 5>and he barks at me for my drink order. It's

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 5>clear that he's not having a good day. I don't

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 5>even try to engage with him. I'm drinking my beer

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 5>in silence, watching my dream of becoming a regular swirl

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 5>down the drain with the overflow of Guinness foam. But

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 5>then the song Waterfalls by TLC comes onto this speaker

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 5>who I heard this song today in the shower with Terry.

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:26.760
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I love his song.

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:31.439
<v Speaker 5>I forget I love this And to my surprise, this

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 5>new bartender starts singing, and then I start singing sort

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 5>of at him. I ask him if he's got any

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 5>more music by TLC in his rotation. He plays no

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 5>scrubs and I hype him up. He introduces himself. His

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 5>name is Killian, and then I watch him go to

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 5>the iPad and put on Pink Pony Club. We do

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 5>at a few more chapel Rone songs, and then Sean

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 5>appears and then its final and then the dog is

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.720
<v Speaker 5>in my lap again, and somebody at the bar, buys

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 5>us all a shot of Yaeger, and an instant later,

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 5>the music is off, the lights are on, and the

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 5>door is locked. There's six of us left in the bar.

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 5>It's me, the two bartenders, their guy friend, and a

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 5>lesbian couple breaking up in the back corner. Iconic Killian

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 5>and Sean are stacking the barstools on the table, and

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 5>I keep hearing them say the word lock in, and

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 5>so I say, what's a lock in? And they say, well,

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 5>it's illegal, but it's when we close down the bar

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 5>and we keep drinking, and he hands me another Guinness.

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 5>I look around and the metal grates on the windows

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 5>are indeed completely closed from the outside. Nobody knows that

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 5>we're here, and I think to myself, I've done it.

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 5>I've become a regular. I'm so regular, I'm doing crime.

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 5>And with the lights on and the music off, we

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 5>really start chatting. We chat about leftist politics, about the

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 5>public school system in Ireland. We do talk about potatoes,

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 5>but I didn't bring it up. And I knew that

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 5>the Irish were quick witted, but I'm learning that they're

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 5>just as quick with their sincerity. And then the lesbian

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 5>couple emerges from the back corner of the bar. They're

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 5>wrapping up their marathon breakup and they announce that they're leaving.

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 5>And the second they're gone, it dawns on me. I'm drunk,

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 5>locked inside of a bar with three men I just

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 5>met and none of my friends know. I turn around

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 5>to face the door and Killian's holding it open. He

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 5>looks at me and he mouths, are you okay, and

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<v Speaker 5>in a very exaggerated way, I say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's a little people pleasey, but I really want

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<v Speaker 5>to stay. This is the adventure I was hoping for.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the feeling I wanted. But I also hear

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<v Speaker 5>a little voice in my head saying you should probably go.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you're Solita and you hear that little voice,

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<v Speaker 5>I've learned that you should listen. I turn back to

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<v Speaker 5>Killian and I see he still has the door propped open.

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<v Speaker 5>He's smoking a cigarette now and he mouths to me,

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<v Speaker 5>you can leave whenever you want. So I pick up

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<v Speaker 5>my coat, I say my goodbyes, I give Sean a

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<v Speaker 5>big hug, and I will never forget Killian holding the

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<v Speaker 5>door open, offering to walk me home, and all I

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<v Speaker 5>can muster to say to him is you're my publican.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my publican. I don't know that I will ever

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<v Speaker 5>feel what my elderly Irish friend felt when he called

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<v Speaker 5>his publican every night on the Camino. Three knights and

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<v Speaker 5>a lockin certainly won't get me there. But what I

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<v Speaker 5>did find was that my publican had my back. And

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<v Speaker 5>this is what I find over and over and over

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<v Speaker 5>when I travel alone, whether I'm in Ireland, in Morocco

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<v Speaker 5>or the Dominican Republic, I find that people are more

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<v Speaker 5>good than they are bad. And when you're alone, you're

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<v Speaker 5>more receptive to that message. You're more receptive to the

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<v Speaker 5>world as it is and not the lies that you've

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<v Speaker 5>been sold about it. And yes, you could anticipate the

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<v Speaker 5>worst case scenario, but I bet you couldn't even dream

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<v Speaker 5>of the best one. And that's what keeps me traveling, Solita.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I want to keep sharing more of these stories.

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<v Speaker 5>So I started talking to more Solitas. Carl I got

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<v Speaker 5>Hella stories. This season, we got Hella stories. I can

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<v Speaker 5>wait four hours for the next bus, or this random

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<v Speaker 5>dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. You're

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<v Speaker 5>about to turn forty. What are you going to do

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<v Speaker 5>with your life when you get bad? You honked up

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<v Speaker 5>with the air Marshals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm on a mission to demystify solo travel, starting by

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<v Speaker 5>tackling the biggest misconceptions.

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<v Speaker 8>I went to Past nine to go to the West Bank.

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<v Speaker 8>I really wanted to see the part that you don't

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<v Speaker 8>get to see, and I just want to know how

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<v Speaker 8>the people live. So it's so interesting you say travel alone,

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<v Speaker 8>because even when I go somewhere alone, I end up

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<v Speaker 8>meeting people and I never feel like I'm actually traveling alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>These are stories of solitas made so that solitas everywhere

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<v Speaker 5>feel a little less solita. Each episode, I sit down

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<v Speaker 5>with a woman who went out into the world and

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<v Speaker 5>came back with a story, not a glossy Instagram post,

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<v Speaker 5>an honest story.

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<v Speaker 3>After all of this solo travel, it became my default thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm just gonna go feel something else,

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>It never fixed anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Like flying away. Taking a flight never fixed anything. It

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<v Speaker 3>did allow me to know myself in different ways.

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<v Speaker 5>I really hope this podcast helps you take the plunge

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<v Speaker 5>on your own solo trip. I'm at the point, Julie, honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>where if I do not solo travel, it's like being

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<v Speaker 5>emotionally constipated. We'll drop a new episode every Tuesday. Whether

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<v Speaker 5>you're a solo travel veteran or you're just warming up

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<v Speaker 5>to the idea, I hope you'll listen. Solita is a

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<v Speaker 5>production of iHeart Podcasts and No Floaties Productions. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 5>Julie Binnetro. Our producers are me and Mary Do, with

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<v Speaker 5>consulting from Emily Maronoff and Kate Mansberger, Editing, mixing and

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<v Speaker 5>mastering by Mary Doo and engineered by Bihied Fraser and

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<v Speaker 5>Paul Bowman. Our theme song is by ballun Cover art

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<v Speaker 5>is by Me, with finishing touches by Studio Lee and

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<v Speaker 5>Our executive producers are Me, Julie Binnetro, and Jason English.

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<v Speaker 5>If you like this episode, please tell a friend and

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