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Speaker 1: Fritzie mclovin. Yours truly Dan Patrick's Show, whether you were

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Speaker 1: watching or not. Plenty of players to root for in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, and credit the league for making them

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Speaker 1: available on microphones. Last night during the All Star Game,

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Speaker 1: how can you not like Fernando Tati's junior, Chris Bryan,

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Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman. They had great sense of humors on display

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Speaker 1: last night. Had an interview with Shoho Tany and translator Angels.

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Speaker 1: Starr didn't really deliver on the field even though pitched

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Speaker 1: a scoreless inning. He got the win, but that constant

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Speaker 1: smiled the fact that he was available. He was there

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Speaker 1: for home run Derby. Some of the bright spots for

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, and baseball has its fair share of

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Speaker 1: critics and a lot of it's fair. Style of play

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Speaker 1: is an I deal. We've seen enough strikeouts for an

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Speaker 1: entire season already at the All Star break, but the

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Speaker 1: Stars go a long way in defining a sport. If

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Speaker 1: you look at the NBA, that almost seems to be

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Speaker 1: the model that Major League Baseball is trying to emulate,

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Speaker 1: and they should. Last night's All Star Game proved that

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Speaker 1: they might be onto something. You have tattoos Junior, vlad

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Speaker 1: Guerrero Junior, you have Otani. You have some names here,

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Speaker 1: at least names that resonate, resonate with younger fans, because

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Speaker 1: that's what this is all about. We were sitting around

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Speaker 1: here earlier today before the show, and we sounded like

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Speaker 1: old men. I remember back at our day, we could

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Speaker 1: name all the All Stars, we could name the guys

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Speaker 1: who were on the bench. Okay, it was really important

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Speaker 1: to you. Back then. You didn't have as many distractions.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have things like a job or a family,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't know anything about girls at the time.

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Speaker 1: And you know, maybe today's younger fan knows who these

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Speaker 1: players are. All of these players. You know, you're playing

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Speaker 1: video games with them. We used to collect baseball cards,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's easy to go back in our day. Okay,

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Speaker 1: back in our day, but kids today, if you're going

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Speaker 1: to sell the game to them, that's really what's important.

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Speaker 1: What are they consuming? What are they interested in. What

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Speaker 1: do they care about? Do they love bat flips? Do

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Speaker 1: they love the style of tattoos Junior or Vlad Guerrero

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Speaker 1: Jor are they into Showhyotani? Like these are all fascinating

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Speaker 1: personalities for me. But if a younger audience, a younger

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Speaker 1: generations not consuming it, it's not great for the sport.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the target demo, you know of

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Speaker 1: what Major League Baseball caters too, it's the oldest demo

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Speaker 1: As a baseball fan, you everybody wants the younger audience here.

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Speaker 1: I think this was a really good week for Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball. You know, they they've survived this spider tack,

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Speaker 1: you know, with doctoring a baseball here. But you're able

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Speaker 1: to have a showcase moment for Showhyotani. And you get

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Speaker 1: Vlad Guerrero Junior, who's twenty two years of age. You

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Speaker 1: got Tatis Junior, who's the same age. They grew up together,

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Speaker 1: their dads played in the major leagues. It was fun.

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Speaker 1: You had Pete Alonzo from a big market with the

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Speaker 1: Mets winning home run derby. Again, I think major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball has a lot to build on here. They're going

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Speaker 1: to take away the seven inning, seven inning double headers

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Speaker 1: next year and get rid of the We're going to

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Speaker 1: Those are just some of the things that the commissioner

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Speaker 1: has talked about. They did this during the pandemic. I

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Speaker 1: get it. Now we move on. What's the next step

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Speaker 1: from Major League Baseball? And really, I think it's important

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Speaker 1: for the legacy of this commissioner. How are you growing

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Speaker 1: the game? It seems like everybody's still making money. Players

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Speaker 1: how the All Star ratings were, but if you go

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Speaker 1: back when we were growing up, it was a big deal.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of people watching. Well, there weren't

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Speaker 1: as many options to be watching something else. We had

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Speaker 1: We'll wait to see the overnights. But major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Shoeotani's manager, Joe Madden. He'll

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Speaker 1: And who else do we have on the show? Russ

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Speaker 1: Russ I thought was unrusslike now. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Back then, it felt like he had something he wanted

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Speaker 1: the end of that conversation with Pete Carroll or John

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Speaker 1: Schneider said go honks, but he'll join us coming up

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Speaker 1: in the final hour of the show. Age seven seven

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Speaker 1: dot com, Twitter handle at dp's show. We have Game four,

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Speaker 1: pivotal Game four used to be pivotal Game five. I'm

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Speaker 1: Suns win this game, then they're gonna win this series.

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Speaker 1: If Milwaukee wins that maybe we're headed to a seven

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Speaker 1: game series. I had people saying it was going to

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Speaker 1: of media people Nilakia has no answer for Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: Greek freak. How are they gonna stop Jannis? We're so

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Speaker 1: flip floppy, you know, just remember USA basketball. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna win a gold medals, a disaster, and

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Speaker 1: then they win last night. Nobody's gonna talk about it,

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Speaker 1: all the problems were there with Nigeria and Australia. Are

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Speaker 1: they were they there last night? Do they have any

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Speaker 1: I watched the game last night. Look pretty easy for

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Speaker 1: a Team USA. It's still not formed. That's not the

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Speaker 1: that's not the team we're going to see in Tokyo.

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Speaker 1: But we shouldn't we the United States should not lose

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Speaker 1: they're not intimidated by Team USA. Intimidation used to play

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Speaker 1: a really large part in Olympic basketball because this was

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Speaker 1: you're playing for silver or bronze because Team USA is

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Speaker 1: going to win. Now, you know, the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world has seen everybody. Yes, we have better players, but

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Speaker 1: I think that you could probably get a team. If

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Speaker 1: I said to lebron hey, can you kind of drum

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Speaker 1: up some all stars to play with you? Cant can

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Speaker 1: you give me an all NBA team? Can you give

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Speaker 1: me Steph Curry to join you? Uh? Let's see who

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Speaker 1: else would would he get? Chris Paul is going to

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Speaker 1: be on the team. I believe is on the Olympic team.

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker, Yes, McLevin. I thought Paul, did Paul he

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Speaker 1: was on the team, and then he said, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm going to pass, but I'll double check that. All right?

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Speaker 1: But if I said to Lebron, how about you come

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Speaker 1: up with a team here, Anthony Davis, assuming he's going

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Speaker 1: to be healthy, Zion, how does Zion not make this team?

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Speaker 1: Or Julius Randall. Julius Randall's fine, but Kevin Love should

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Speaker 1: not be on the Olympic team. Nice guy should not

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Speaker 1: He's not an Olympian. It's not personal, just a fact.

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Speaker 1: He should not be on that team. Now, are they

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Speaker 1: gonna win with him? Yes, they'll win with him. Can

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Speaker 1: they win without him? Yeah? They could win without him.

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Speaker 1: But if you had if I said, okay, Lebron, you

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Speaker 1: get Jimmy Butler, you get Paul George, you get Kyrie Irving,

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry, James Harden, and Anthony Davis. Yeah, mccleman, do

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Speaker 1: you want James Harden. Sorry, I'm just gonna say like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have five all NBA players. I don't want one

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Speaker 1: on James Harden. I thought he showed me more with

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Speaker 1: the nets, with his ability to be a distributor and

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Speaker 1: seven meant well that I just got to keep him

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Speaker 1: out of a Game seven. That's it. I we got

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Speaker 1: to end every series in six games. I can't get

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Speaker 1: PAULI maybe Lebron can find his own country and just

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Speaker 1: got that kind of dough like Malta that seems like

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Speaker 1: Everybody on our team took their loss heart as we should.

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Speaker 1: You know, we never go into a game expecting to lose.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you show me somebody who expects to lose,

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Speaker 1: I'll show you a loser. We use yesterday, we'll use

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Speaker 1: found interesting. Monty Williams, the head coach of the Sons,

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Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about the free throw disparity in

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Speaker 1: Game three, but he did talk about the free throw

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Speaker 1: And then he was questioned about talking about and not

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Speaker 1: talking about the free throw disparity. After last game, you

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Speaker 1: said you didn't want to complain about the fouls, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious. The reason for bringing that up in

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Speaker 1: a press conference is what? Well, somebody asked me the

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Speaker 1: answered it, and then the free throw dispairity is what

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Speaker 1: player with seventeen free throws. We had sixteen. That's not complaining,

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Speaker 1: that's stating facts. Da is DeAndrea Aiden. You know, looking

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Speaker 1: back on Game three, Milwaukee was aggressive. They got shots,

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Speaker 1: Greek freak does. He can put you in foul trouble

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Speaker 1: if he gets to the hoop. So I'm not surprised

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Speaker 1: you can say there's a free throw disparity and the

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Speaker 1: don't have any problem with that. And if Monty went

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Speaker 1: this is this gamesmanship. Phil Jackson used to do this

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Speaker 1: what kind of poll question do you have today? Okay?

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Speaker 1: The debate on the site is about popularity of different sports.

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Speaker 1: continue to ride that wave? That's what I'm curious about football.

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Speaker 1: All of this offense, all of these numbers, no defense whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: At what point do they start giving a little bit

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Speaker 1: back to the defense, you know, and maybe they don't care.

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Speaker 1: By the way Pro Football Reference finally Lee did what

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Speaker 1: I have been begging the NFL to do. The NFL

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Speaker 1: is the most documented. They have video, you have NFL films.

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Speaker 1: Why couldn't you go back and tally up the number

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Speaker 1: of sacks that guys like Deacon Jones had? And they

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Speaker 1: finally did, and we find out that Deacon Jones, to me,

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Speaker 1: probably had more sacks than anybody in the history of

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Speaker 1: the sport. He led in sacks I think four or

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Speaker 1: five consecutive years. That never happens. I think the most

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Speaker 1: is back to back seasons. But why not go back

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Speaker 1: and you threw the ball fifteen to eighteen times less opportunity,

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Speaker 1: I mean, imagine sacks per snap. I mean, Deacon Jones

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Speaker 1: was incredible but I kept saying to whoever would listen

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Speaker 1: to me, including the Pro Football Hall of Fame, can

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Speaker 1: you go back and just be fair to the they

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Speaker 1: started counting sacks in nineteen eighty two. Go back, let us,

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Speaker 1: let us, you know, relish what these a previous generation

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Speaker 1: did and the greatness of that as opposed to, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Reggie White, Yeah, wonderful, he wasn't Deacon Jones. Hey, you

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Speaker 1: got to throw out somebody, Michael Straight. Yes, great players.

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Speaker 1: Let's be fair to those who came before us, who

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Speaker 1: played the game, And I mean, why not celebrate the

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Speaker 1: history of the game. Bruce Smith is a wonderful He's

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Speaker 1: got two hundred sacks, the all time leader. Do we

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Speaker 1: have the updated Yeah, so they have the unofficial The

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Speaker 1: official leaders is what the NFL recognized, but Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Reference has the unofficial leaders since nineteen sixty. Bruce Smith

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Speaker 1: number one. Now the guys who are old school guys

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Speaker 1: who are back in it. Deacon Jones, how one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy three, second third all times, Alan Page, the

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Speaker 1: great Vikings player under forty eight sacks. He was the

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle. And then it keeps going on like that.

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Speaker 1: You don't be even more interesting if some type of

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Speaker 1: analytics person could look at sacks per pass attempt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I meant, well what you're saying earlier, because I'm

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Speaker 1: getting Deacon Jones head, Like you said, faced guys who

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Speaker 1: had fifteen attempts. Again, there's there's no better pass rusher

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Speaker 1: than Deacon Jones. There just isn't. I if I go

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Speaker 1: his his number of pass attempts that he faced and sacks,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's close to that. Yeah, I'm clean.

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Speaker 1: I consider myself an NFL historian. Uh, but I have

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Speaker 1: to admit I know nothing about this guy who they

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Speaker 1: say set the single season record. Al Bubba Baker said

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Speaker 1: he's part of the famed Silver Rush defense. That's an

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Speaker 1: awesome nickname. I didn't remember heard this one. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't that long ago that that Bubba Baker

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Speaker 1: was doing this seventy eight. Yeah, right before Silver Rush

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Speaker 1: Defense where they a thing. I don't remember them being

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Speaker 1: a thing. The team wasn't good, it was Detroit, but

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Speaker 1: he had the they talented up twenty three sacks. I

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Speaker 1: think his single season record there. Yeah, mclub. Why the

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Speaker 1: defenses used to have the coolest nicknames and we don't

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Speaker 1: do that as much anymore. Well, they stay together I

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Speaker 1: think longer. You know, the doomsday defense. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody has a great defense anymore. Legion of Boom, that

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Speaker 1: might be the last time we do something like that,

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Speaker 1: because whose defense do you go? Wow? You don't want

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Speaker 1: to mess with that defense? A seven? The crappy five.

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Speaker 1: Legion of Boom was a great. Legion of Boom was

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Speaker 1: wonderful and great. Yeah, I mean the Steel Curtain, Purple

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Speaker 1: people leaders, How great was that? The Fearsome Foursome, even

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Speaker 1: the Killer Bees with the Dolphins. But that's when you

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Speaker 1: had formidable defenses. That's when they allowed you to have

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Speaker 1: a great defense. Yeah, MCU. The sack exchange, Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was good. Silver rush is pretty cool. For the Linons,

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Speaker 1: they should have you create that, But I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they can. No in today's game, and nobody's gotta

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Speaker 1: what's the who has the great defense? Aaron Donald's a

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Speaker 1: great defensive player, But I don't think the Rams have

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Speaker 1: the best corner and the best defensive lineman. I guess

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Speaker 1: does that make them the best defense in football? Like

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are supposed to have a great defense, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody where you go. Man, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: Tampa's defense is great. And I had said all season long,

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Speaker 1: if they're winning, they're gonna win because of that, not

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Speaker 1: because of Tom Brady. And that was the case. That

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Speaker 1: was in wonderful defense going against a very subpar, banged

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Speaker 1: up Kansas City Chiefs offense. Yeah, point Aaron Donald and

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Speaker 1: ten others. How's that for a nickname? No, it doesn't flow, man, Well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get Jalen Ramsey in there too, Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and nine other guys, nine others. Yes, mccle

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Speaker 1: I'm eating Pitts had a very good defense last year.

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Speaker 1: I remember you like that. I did because I thought

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Speaker 1: that that was the reason why they were undefeated. But

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Speaker 1: it's still I mean, they didn't make some plays, but uh,

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Speaker 1: you know t J. Watt, they didn't have Bud Dupree,

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Speaker 1: but they had they had a good defense, a good defense.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anything is scary defense anyway, there

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Speaker 1: were times like that Giants defense with Lawrence Taylor, that

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Speaker 1: scary defense. I mean he had Carl Banks, Harry Carson,

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Speaker 1: you had a Hall of famers there and then you

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Speaker 1: had LT. But you know, Reggie White when he was

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. That felt like a great defense. Uh but

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Speaker 1: it it just changed. You know, we we've changed the

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Speaker 1: rules and it's harder for you to be great in

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Speaker 1: the NFL at those positions, you know, secondary, it can't

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Speaker 1: beat your hands on anybody. All else failed throw a

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Speaker 1: flag if there's you know, maybe pi. Yeah, the club

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Speaker 1: and that Reggie buddy Ryan was like going after kickers heads. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean now he's different football, yeah yeah, but that

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Speaker 1: that changed the sport, all right. I mentioned Kawhi Leonard,

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Speaker 1: he had knee surgery. I'm not sure why he waited.

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Speaker 1: It felt like he needed knee surgery, even though we

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Speaker 1: were we were being told it was his spraying knee.

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Speaker 1: I get it, you know, for maybe that competitive advantage

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Speaker 1: that you wanted to leave somebody, you know a little

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Speaker 1: bit of mystery there. But you're not allowed to do

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Speaker 1: that in the NBA, Like it's supposed to be full

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Speaker 1: disclosure because of all this gambling. Everybody's involved in gambling.

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Speaker 1: Well then you have to let the gambler know. Is

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Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard coming back? And I was told by somebody

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Speaker 1: close to this situation, don't rule out Kawai coming back

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Speaker 1: if there is a Game seven, he wasn't coming back.

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Speaker 1: And maybe this person was using me to put it

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Speaker 1: out there that hey, Kawai could come back. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't followed up with him. But Kawai, it's not

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Speaker 1: like he hurt his knee even more when he was

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Speaker 1: up in the Clippers suite, like he didn't take the steps.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing he took an elevator. But this is a

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Speaker 1: big deal. This is a this is a guy who

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Speaker 1: is you can say, injury prone or injury saddled. There's

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Speaker 1: already load management, but this is a six month process

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Speaker 1: with a torn ACL, and the season is right around

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Speaker 1: the corner starting again. I would have serious doubts about

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Speaker 1: the Clippers with Kauai moving forward. Just would because there's

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Speaker 1: already load management, and I know this isn't the Jordan

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Speaker 1: played it all eighty two games. Yeah, I know, guys,

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Speaker 1: today this is different. You know the Lakers have a

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Speaker 1: situation with Anthony Davis, but this is a serious injury,

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Speaker 1: torn ACL. That's a six month process here like this.

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Speaker 1: If he comes back before Christmas, I'd be shocked. And

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Speaker 1: he's a free agent. So if you're the Clippers, do

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Speaker 1: you want him? Marvelous player? Clutch player? But is this

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Speaker 1: a pattern for a guy with load management? He still

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Speaker 1: gets banged up more than you would expect or you

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Speaker 1: would hope for. Do you want him long term? I

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Speaker 1: know it sounds preposterous to go, God, do I want

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Speaker 1: him at that kind of money? But they're going to

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Speaker 1: know more with just the rehab. And it's Kawhi, so

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Speaker 1: there's always a mystery there. You're never quite sure what's

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Speaker 1: going on. But this is a big deal. You know

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Speaker 1: that it was a knee sprain and then we find

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Speaker 1: out it's a torn ACL. But trust me, having gone

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Speaker 1: through this and just being a pedestrian, this is six

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Speaker 1: months and even then, what's he going to be like

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Speaker 1: after this? If they were already was load management? Can

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Speaker 1: you have even more load management on top of load management?

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Speaker 1: How many games are you going to play? Forty thirty five?

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Speaker 1: And what are the Clippers willing to allow? Because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot that goes with Kawhi Leonard great player, but

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Speaker 1: there's maintenance here and now you have a torn ACL.

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Speaker 1: It's a big deal. All right, we'll take a break,

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Speaker 1: we'll come back. We got our play of the day.

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Speaker 1: I think we settle on a pull question, didn't we

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Speaker 1: We did? I'll tell you what it is after the

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Speaker 1: alrighty or back after this. Thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: Found this interesting. The American League is not trailed for

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Speaker 1: so we went with what's the second most popular sport?

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Speaker 1: We took football out that being NFL and college football

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Speaker 1: choices are basketball baseball. We put MMA on. Uh, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put soccer on. I'll put hockey just because hockey

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Speaker 1: fans are very very active on our Twitter feed and

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Speaker 1: they would get it in mad of me if we didn't.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else that belongs on there? Golf is

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Speaker 1: not there because you don't have Tiger. Yeah, that's although

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Speaker 1: James Bond played golf in one of the movies. I

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Speaker 1: think he played golf or they had some scenes at

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Speaker 1: that golf course where they're gonna have the the Open Championship.

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Speaker 1: On the popularity of sports, do people ever ask you

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Speaker 1: why ESN does so much NFL. I've been getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of it. This summer has been the NFL summer

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Speaker 1: on most of the ESPN shows. Well, this is what happens,

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Speaker 1: you do research. Fox Sports does this. In fact, we

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Speaker 1: met the guy at the Super Bowl in Miami and

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Speaker 1: he told us what the metrics are and how they

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Speaker 1: decide what stories they're going to cover. So all these

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Speaker 1: shows on Fox Sports, whether it's a Skip and Shannon

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Speaker 1: or it's Nick Wright on his show, they tell them

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Speaker 1: these are the stories that we should be covering. Now,

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Speaker 1: then it's up to the host on how they cover

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Speaker 1: those stories. But they give you the metrics to say,

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Speaker 1: talk like the Cleveland Browns have been talked about more

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Speaker 1: in the last three weeks than throw a the NBA

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Speaker 1: in totality, it feels like, or the Cowboys. Now, what's

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Speaker 1: the reason, because the metrics say you can't go wrong

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Speaker 1: talking about these shows. An ESPN does the same thing.

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Speaker 1: When I was doing Sports Center, there was it was formulaic.

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Speaker 1: Anything to do with the Yankees and Red Sox, anything

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Speaker 1: to do with Duke and North Carolina. Now those are topics,

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Speaker 1: and those were topics that were happening in the moment.

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Speaker 1: We weren't going, hey, it's June, let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: value of Spencer Rattler to Oklahoma's football team. But the

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Speaker 1: metrics show those are stories that you can't go wrong

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Speaker 1: in talking about. I don't adhere to that. I don't

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Speaker 1: have anybody programming this show sometimes it's obvious, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we talk about what we think is important, what we like,

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Speaker 1: and get the guests that accompany that. But you know

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Speaker 1: it works for these other shows obviously, because look at

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Speaker 1: their ratings, look at their audiences. You know our audience

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Speaker 1: is nowhere near theirs. But I do it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: trolling you. I could talk about the Cowboys every day,

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Speaker 1: but that's not how I was taught. And I don't

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Speaker 1: somebody to say you got to talk about the Browns today,

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Speaker 1: even Aaron Rodgers. I go kicking and screaming because I

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Speaker 1: don't have anything new. If there's news, I'll give it

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Speaker 1: to you. I'll give you an opinion. But I don't

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Speaker 1: try to just touch on these topics to go. Let

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Speaker 1: me see, how do I get Lebron in the show?

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Speaker 1: How do I get the Cowboys in the show? How

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Speaker 1: do I get the Packers? How do I get the

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Speaker 1: brown like? The Browns get more publicity than just about

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Speaker 1: any other team in the NFL except for Dallas. Why

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00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: they have star power? People are curious about Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and Odell Beckham, Myles Garrett. I guess I mean you're

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Speaker 1: the audience. You consume it. But it's not something that

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Speaker 1: even playing the hits when I was at ESPN, like

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Speaker 1: there were times when you go, isn't there another story

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Speaker 1: or can't we can't we elevate something, But it felt

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Speaker 1: like you played the hits and I understand it. It's

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Speaker 1: like music. If you tune into a top forty radio station,

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Speaker 1: they just play the hits over and over and over.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I like to look at us as

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Speaker 1: album rock where we might go, you know, three cuts

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Speaker 1: deep here or something occasionally, Yeah, what were the hits

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Speaker 1: like fifteen to twenty years ago that are different from now? Well,

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Speaker 1: Red Songs, Yankee, Duke, North Carolina, the Notre Dame would

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Speaker 1: always come up, Mike Tyson whenever, like any of these

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Speaker 1: topic bars, you went, okay, all right, let's do something

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Speaker 1: on that. But that's just that's the philosophy of networks here,

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Speaker 1: and I understand it. I'm glad I don't have to

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Speaker 1: do that. I did it at the time, but we weren't.

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Speaker 1: We weren't talking about a sport that wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: play for four months like we weren't doing that. Now

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Speaker 1: it feels like you can't go wrong, Like Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: with a off handed comment at the golf tournament this

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Speaker 1: past week on on Justin Herbert, you know where somebody said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, look out for Justin Herbert and the Chargers

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Speaker 1: and Patrick Holmes walking down the fairway and the eighteenth

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Speaker 1: fairway at the tournament says I'll see it when I

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Speaker 1: believe it. Wow. I mean, first of all, you add

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Speaker 1: it backwards, I'll believe it when I see it right.

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Speaker 1: Second of all, it's not exactly trash talking. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm there's tons of Raiders fans out there at that event.

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Speaker 1: It's in Tahoe. I come on, And then Maholmes has

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Speaker 1: to apology. Hey, I got great respect for Justin Hurt.

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Speaker 1: That's putting the cart before the horse before or whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. It's just if you

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Speaker 1: can latch onto anything. Football was like, I'm curious about

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Speaker 1: this story with the Washington football team. They're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a new name and a new logo and there's no

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Speaker 1: link to Native American imagery. According to their team president,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have another year where they're the Washington football

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Speaker 1: team and then at some point, you know, why are

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Speaker 1: they waiting? Is it for merchandise? I would just stay

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Speaker 1: with the Washington no names, just you're the Washington football team,

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Speaker 1: all right? Move on? Now? Is the NFL asking them

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Speaker 1: to come up with a name. I'll go back to

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Speaker 1: what I was told, this has got to be seven

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Speaker 1: to ten years ago, that that the Washington football team

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Speaker 1: wanted to move back into Washington, DC. And I was

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Speaker 1: told by somebody with the Commissioner's office that the commissioner

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Speaker 1: was saying, the only will listen, you have to change

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Speaker 1: your nickname, and Daniel Snyder was not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're moving back. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that proposal was still there, move out of the suburbs.

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Speaker 1: And I remember going to RFK Stadium in downtown Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. And you know, is that where they should be?

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Speaker 1: It's up to the NFL, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's part of the arrangement here with Daniel Snyder. Is

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Speaker 1: all right, change the nickname? Well they did. They're Washington

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Speaker 1: football team. Now what are you going to change it too?

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Speaker 1: The fact that he has survived another year is absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 1: He's a terrible owner, but you can be a terrible

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Speaker 1: owner and still make your money, and he's made his money,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know what they're going to change it to.

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Speaker 1: But there's no link to Native Americans. Coming up next hour,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Browns, we'll talk about the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady. Actually we'll talk to

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