1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the show that gets you 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium. Mark Vantomer and John Harris with you 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: for Texans All Access. Tonight Thursday is usually the General's 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: night to visit with us. John McClain, So can you 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: do an impression or not? I you know, everybody tries. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: Everybody's got a McClain impression, but of course they do. Yeah, 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: of course they do. Come on, Mark, I'm usually here, 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: but John's gonna step in for me. Everybody's got him. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Everybody's got General. Everybody's got a General impression. But mine's 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: not that good. And I respect the General too much 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: to even even try. Oh, he loves it all. I 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: just tried, but I just can't do it. It's good 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: publicity forehand. That's what it is, all right. Think he 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: needs more publicity, Yeah, he probably doesn't. The General doesn't 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: need any more publicity. Oh, I'm sure that he deserves it. 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: He just he doesn't. He doesn't really need it. Everybody 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: knows who the General is. All right? Fund Show today. 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Matt Khalil in the next segment, will visit with the 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Tackle and find out how he's doing. How he got 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: his number that he wanted from Martinez rankin. He'll get 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: into that story among other things. In the final segment, 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: we'll talk about pass interference again because it's still in 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: the news and Mike Florio said something about it that 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: I want to address. Also, what do the Texans have 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: in common with the Rockets? When you look at a 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: Nemesis team. For the Texas, it would be New England. 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: For the Rockets, it would be the Warriors. I know 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: it's not apples to apples in this analogy, but there 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: are some comparisons to make and I wanted to get 30 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: into that. So that's coming up as well. I wanted 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: to start here though, because it is Ota Week one 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans and Johnny, I think that no 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: small thing is the fact that you have your franchise 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: quarterback out there for the first time since twenty sixteen, really, 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: and that was Brock Goswiler for the first time since 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, taking all the first team reps. And that's 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: huge for this offense. We all know the offense wants 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: to get better. We all know what Watson's health situation 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: was last year. We all know what happened in the 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: playoff game, and this is big. Two years ago. He 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: was the third team quarterback. Last year he was limited 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: because he was coming back from the knee. Now he's 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: the guy, and they could do a whole lot this 44 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: time of year. He's gonna get four weeks of first 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: team reps that he didn't get last year because he 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: was doing seven on seven and stuff like that. It's 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: not the same. I think this is really gonna help 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: him and the team. Okay, I had this thought and 49 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: we sort of talked about this, but there's been a 50 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: different first team quarterback during OTAs every year since when, 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, since seven eleven, Since two thousand and eleven. 52 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Eleven it was shop and eleven there were no ota 53 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: go back to ten. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay ten. There 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: were no OTAs in eleven because of the lock in 55 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: right sorry so ten shop right, lockout twelve shop he 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: was coming off the franc So who is Jates Yates 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: two thirteen? Shop twenty fourteen, Fitzpatrick fifteen, Mallet, Hoyer sixteen, 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: Brock seventeen, Savage eighteen wheat. Yeah, how about that? Different 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: quarterback every year? And now you have Watson as the guy. 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: Now I get it. Last year, Look, he was we 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: all knew he was going to start, but he was 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: coming back from the knee, and I think the reps 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage are different, and we saw 64 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: what they were doing. You know, I'm not leaking national 65 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: security secrets here, but they're throwing a lot of different 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: stuff at the offense defense. They're they're doing a lot 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: of different things out there already working on some kind 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: of situational stuff to get everybody acclimated. This is great 69 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: practice for them. My gosh, this is really helpful. A 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: side note here, Johnny, and I brought this up before. 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: This league fascinates me because you have sixteen Sundays, three 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: hours each Sunday, and all the work they're doing now, 73 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: and very often it comes down to a catch on 74 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: fingertips or knocking a ball away with your fingertips or 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: whatever the game of inches dictates, and all that work 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: you do all offseason long pays off in those moments 77 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: or it doesn't. So it's monumentally important what you're going 78 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: through right now. There's no question. I was on with 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Sean or Rich yesterday and I brought up that point 80 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: because we were talking about it. The other one thing 81 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: the offense has not had is continuity. You really think 82 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: about the continuity. What's the only constant since Bill has 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: been here? Has been change, but it's been DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, 84 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: that's really been it. We've seen the entire tight end 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: group when we got here, that's shed its entire skin. 86 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: The offensive line has shed its entire skin. The quarterbacks, 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: we don't have to go into that running backs, same thing, 88 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: completely different, and that's going to happen over six years. 89 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: The only constant has been DeAndre Hopkins. But now you're 90 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: looking at an offense, and again, if guys are healthy. 91 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Now we don't know what's gonna happen on the offensive line. 92 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: But you have a guy like Julio Davenport has a 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: full year playing on his resume. You have and played 94 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: on this offensive line. Zack Fulton has a full year 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: with the Texans. You have Nick Martin who now has 96 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: two full years. You're not going into the situation for 97 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: the most part, where you're throwing a bunch of guys 98 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: out there, rookies or in their first year with the Texans. 99 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: That's what you had last year. Even Deshaun and only 100 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: played seven games in twenty seventeen, So going into twenty eighteen, 101 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: he and a full year under his belt. Well, now 102 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: the Shawn's got a year and a half under his belt, 103 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: hops a season, VET qts going into the second year, fuller, 104 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: hopefully healthy. He is going into his fourth year. Julian 105 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: would be in his second year. Yeah, you've got some 106 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: rookies and Titus hired Max Sharping, and they may have 107 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: to go into the lineup and look, every lineup throughout 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: the league has at least one piece that gets changed 109 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: out no matter what. But you're at least getting to 110 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: a point now where there's some continuity where Nick Martin 111 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: can turn around and see de Shawn Watson. DeShawn can 112 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: look at Nick's backside and go, I've seen that before. 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: We've done this before. Sounds very bad to me, but 114 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: that continuity. Listen to that point about quarterbacks. We haven't 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: had a quarterback center combination that was the same to 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: start the year for that same time period. If you 117 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: think about it, Yeah, we've not had that. And that's 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: sex connection is very important. That communication. Everything they have 119 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: to do to get the centers. The quarterback of the 120 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: old live the quarterback is the quarterback. You have to 121 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: have some continuity there. I mean, if you go back 122 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: to thirteen, it was Shob and Myers, fourteen was Myers 123 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: and Fitzpatrick, fifteen was Ben Jones and Horrier Mallett, sixteen 124 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: was Greg Mantz and Brock, seventeen was it was Savage 125 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: and then Sage. That's right, Savage and Martin, and then 126 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: in eighteen it was Deshaun and Nick, and twenty nineteen 127 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be the Sean and Nick, which I think 128 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: you get that going and continue to foster that relationship. 129 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna make everything better. So we're starting 130 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: finally to get to that point of continuity with the offense, 131 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: and I think that we'll see gains just because of 132 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: that alone. Well, it's funny you mentioned that, and you 133 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: brought up the tight ends shedding their skin since O'Brien 134 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: got here. Yes, but at least the Jordans are in 135 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: year two right, And I watched them catching passes at 136 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: OTAs as year two vets, if you will. It's not 137 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: like seasoned vets, but they've been around for a season. 138 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, the rookies, their heads are spinning. You know. 139 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien always talks about this, how they need to 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: know where the bathroom is and that means they're not 141 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: used to the whole routine, the building, how to live. 142 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: You know. Now these guys have been through it, they 143 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: know what the expectations are of them from the coaching staff, 144 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: and the Jordans can hit the ground running, you hope, 145 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: where he gets up to speed quickly, fells as a 146 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: season vet at least, even though he's new to this organization. 147 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: So that's good. Now, flip it to the other side 148 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: of the ball, Johnny. A lot of new faces in 149 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: this secondary and I look at Lonnie Johnson out there. 150 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen when he's gonna play, 151 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: how he's gonna whatever. But one thing about a big 152 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: corner like that, we were watching him do some red 153 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: zone stuff. I just have a feeling that as a quarterback, 154 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: when you see a big it's just like when you 155 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: see a big target, it's good for you as a 156 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: receiver or tight ends a big target or a big receiver. 157 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: When you see a big corner covering somebody, he's got 158 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: to have a psychological effect almost like I don't really 159 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: want to go there. I don't know if I'm gonna 160 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: throw it over there. You know, unless you have a 161 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins who has a great catch radius to knock 162 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: the ball away. It's not gonna get picked anyway, but 163 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: that's got to really help him, not just the ability 164 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: to have that wide range of coverage, but the visual 165 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: that the quarterback sees with a Lonnie Johnson or any 166 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: big corner, it's got to be really helpful to the 167 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: d no doubt. You and I were watching rookie minicamp 168 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: the day that we were able to go on Friday, 169 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: and I thought it was you that to me by 170 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Lonnie doesn't look that bigs he's got that big to you, 171 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: I can't. Maybe he was set maybe seth, I don't know. 172 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: And it was funny because as we were standing there 173 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: watching watching OTAs with the full squad, we were actually 174 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: able to be closer and Lonnie was basically from me 175 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: to you away as the DBS are closer to us, 176 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: and I just remember looking at him going, hey, he's 177 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: bigger than Justin Reid and that Justin made a comment 178 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: about it up at the podium and said, yeah, Lina, 179 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: Johnson's almost bigger than I am. Like Jay Reid, he's 180 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: bigger than you. That's okay. You see them standing in 181 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: a line right there, right and look, not that Kareem 182 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: was a small guy. Kareem was fearless, but Kareem didn't 183 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: have that length and size. Now he's got a ton 184 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: of experience, don't get me wrong, and that's obviously something 185 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: Lonnie doesn't have. But six two two fifteen playing corner 186 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: and can run and turn and go and do all 187 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: those different things. I mean, we've not seen that in Houston. 188 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: We've heard and seeing it across the league. We've seen 189 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: guys like Xavier Rhoads go to Minnesota. We saw what 190 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 1: Seattle did with Sherman Sherman and Brandon Browner and the 191 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: UH and then drafting Shakeem Griffin's brother, Shaquille Griffin, and 192 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: the length size comparison that those guys were. We didn't 193 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: have that. You know, we didn't have guys like that. Now, 194 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: Lynne Johnson comes in here. He was standing next to 195 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: Jermaine Kelly and those two weren't looking quite eye to eye. 196 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: But you look at Jermaine and you go, those guys 197 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: are corners. Wow, we've not had that. Hopefully that eventually 198 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: turns into a secondary that is long creates issues in 199 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: the way that you just said that you don't want 200 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: to throw against the long corner. You don't want to 201 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: go against those guys. They're more physical on those receivers. 202 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: Receivers don't get clean releases. They're gonna make it very 203 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: difficult for them at the top of a route. And 204 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: that's what you're hoping when you have that kind of 205 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: size at corner, is that you're able. You're able to 206 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: do that. And then you look at a couple of 207 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: undrafted the baby who also played at Kentucky and I 208 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: watched this Kentucky Corners for a few years, and Lonnie 209 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: was a JUCO and he Lonnie was was good enough 210 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: as a first year JUCO to move in front of 211 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: multi year starters. And Derek was on the other side 212 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: of Lonnie. And you see him and you're like, he's 213 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: not as thick as as Lonnie is, and he's probably 214 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: about an inch shorter. He's like six one ninety, but 215 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: long and can run. That's the way the NFL has gone. Seemingly, 216 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: it's gone in that direction, but it felt like we 217 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: weren't quite getting those guys yet. Right now we're getting them. 218 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: Now we've gotten them, and I hopefully those guys are 219 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: sponges and they're picking up everything they can absorb from 220 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph and he can teach them everything that he 221 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: knows about this game and they can absorb it and 222 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: become great players down the road. But you just, you know, 223 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: think about throwing at Jalen Ramsey. I mean, we didn't 224 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: have DeAndre Hopkins. I'm like, hey, don't throw it twenty 225 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: just don't just don't go to twenty land. But you Hopkins? 226 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: Do you have Hopkins? So you're willing to take as 227 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: utter chances. Yeah, you take those risks and you go 228 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: for it. But if I don't have twenty, I'm not 229 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: throwing it up. If I don't have Hopkins, I'm not 230 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: throwing it twenty man, I'm not. I'm thinking about how 231 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: different that dB room is, you know, with no Kareem Jackson, Tyrn, Matthew, 232 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: Andre Hawe retires. You know, it's look those are you 233 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: know when you're heading into last year. Did we had 234 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: the diagnosis yet at this point? Maybe at this point, 235 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: but it was about this time, right, and maybe it 236 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: wasn't released yet, but he probably got it around this 237 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: time whatever it was, but flashed a month earlier than this. 238 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: You're thinking that how it's gonna be a big part 239 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: of everything, and you know, yeah, yeah, and you look 240 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: back and obviously all those guys spend a great deal 241 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: of time together, even during recovery. How it was spending 242 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: a great deal of time with all those guys. So 243 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: it's very different dynamically right now. And that's why, you know, 244 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien always says that the OTAs are a passing camp. Well, 245 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: the dbs need this and this is really helpful to 246 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: them to be able to cover These guys communicate, get 247 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: used to each other on the back end, and also 248 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: getting used to each other in the building. You know. 249 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: I I wrote about this on Houston Texas dot com. 250 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: How this is where the magic happens because this is 251 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: nine weeks without playing a game that the coaches and 252 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: players can be together. Think about that for a moment. 253 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Nine weeks and they're in it every day, not every 254 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: single day of the week. They get the weekends off, whatever, 255 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: you don't have a game, but there's no pressure of 256 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: the game, the pressures on the horizon. So they always 257 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: feel some sort of pressure, but they know that they 258 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: have time to marinate, get to know each other, learn. 259 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: I think it's just so valuable to them to gel 260 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: and just get ready for that twenty nineteen campaign. And 261 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: these defensive backs. You look at the quarterbacks. We've talked 262 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: about it on this schedule. You gotta be ready day one, 263 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: Monday Night football. You got Drew Brees and company, and 264 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: speaking of OTAs and everything, and I know Brady missus 265 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: OTAs lately. But when you have guys like Ben Roethlisberger 266 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees and even Eli Manning, you know, these 267 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: guys year after year we're talking about first team quarterback reps. 268 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: They're at OTAs with their team. You know year after year. 269 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: How valuable is that for them? Extremely? All right, coming up, 270 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: Matt Khalil tackle for your Texans a visit with him, 271 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: and then in the final segment, some stuff about passentor Ferrens, 272 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: my Rockets, Texans analogy, and a whole bunch of other 273 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: stuff here on Texans All Access stick around. Hello again, Texans, 274 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio here from the hunday Texans Radio studio. 275 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: The show Texans All Access, Mark Van Damer and John 276 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: Harris with you coming up at the next segment. Don't 277 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: forget We'll go over the past center Ferrens, Nuances and 278 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: how we feel about the rule change, the rule adjustment 279 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: really that took place this week. My little analogy about 280 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: the Rockets and the Texans, which is not exactly congruent, 281 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: but close enough to provoke some thought. How about that 282 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: a reminder? Also, I will be out of the air 283 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: with Mad Radio at eight am tomorrow, my regular Friday 284 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: visit eight to nine am. Always look forward to sitting 285 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: in with the guys on Friday morning and straightening them out. 286 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say about that, all right. Matt Khalil, 287 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: our guest left tackle for the Houston Texans, and John Harris, 288 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: and I is it with Matt. Look, he's got number 289 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: seventy five. Martinez Rankin had it. Khalil's had it for 290 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: a much longer in his life, so he had to 291 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: get it from Rankin. And we heard about how that 292 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: one went. Because Khalil again has had this thing since 293 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: he was a pup freshman year high school. So it's 294 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: it's a number I've had for a long time. Probably 295 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't change it at this point. You just got to 296 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: stick with it. Um. Has this been an issue at 297 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: some other teams, like if you've had it since high school? 298 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: At USC you know, you're talking about a couple of 299 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: other pro teams. Yeah, when I got drafted Minnesota, someone 300 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: had seventy five, a little more lenient than Rankins was. 301 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: He was a little bit addressing that's the new age 302 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: kids these days, you know what I mean, there's there's 303 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: there's a higher price to pay. So um, I went 304 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: in there. He said how much do I want for it? Obviously, 305 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: you know the art of making a deal, you never 306 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: say the first number, so yeah, I won't say how much. 307 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: But he went in there with an absurd number and 308 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: I kind of had to counter and he negotiated. I 309 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: was like, jeez, I didn't think he was gonna start 310 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: that high. But we worked it out. So everything works 311 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: out for everybody. These young kids today, it's all about that. Matt. 312 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: You've now been in Houston little bit longer, and you 313 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: know when we last talked to you've been anything from 314 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of days. What's it been like to 315 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: be around the team kind of seeing yourself as a 316 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Texan with the group of players. Now that Vets have 317 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: been together and now you rookies into it, what's that 318 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: been like for you? It's been great, you know, like 319 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I told you guys before. It's one of the reasons 320 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: I came here. A great locker room, great staff, strength, conditioning, 321 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: training room. Kind of down to everything as far as communication, 322 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: get me on the right page and putting together a 323 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: program and putting that timeline together where they want me 324 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: and you know, you know what they expect from me, 325 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I've been exceeding those timelines, have been 326 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: feeling great, have had no setbacks, God settled in. Enjoy 327 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: the food, love the places you can you can eat here, 328 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: So everything's been great altogether. Love the places you can eat. Huh. Oh. Yeah. 329 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: We just had Kellamette in here a while ago, and 330 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: he was talking about New Orleans having better food. Would 331 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: maybe but that's okay, that's okay. I mean, what do 332 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: you got to do. Yeah, it's hard to argue, though, 333 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: it's hard to arge have more variety, how about that? Yeah, 334 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: but they got like seafood that has like flesh eating 335 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: bacteria and all that stuff. They're not perfect, so I 336 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: don't know. So they're a lot of young lineman. You're 337 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: not old, but you're older that a lot of these guys. 338 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: So what's that dynamic light for you? Oh? You know, 339 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: it's just you kind of step in that leadership role. 340 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to mentor these young guys. Uh. You know, 341 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: some people like giving these young guys a hard time 342 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: and hazing and all that, but you know, ultimately they're 343 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: here to help you and be a part of your team. 344 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: That's why we draft these guys. That's why we picked 345 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: guys up free agency and obviously undrafted guys. But uh, 346 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, if you see a potential and a guy 347 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: and the guys willing to work and come to you 348 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: and ask questions and um, you know, it hasn't got 349 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: to that point. They're still kind of in the phase 350 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: where they're trying to figure things out and kind of 351 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: got the lost puppy dog looks. But uh, you know, 352 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: it's all about part of being a rookie, learning and 353 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: training yourself to become a pro. So do you know 354 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: if anyone wants to come to me for advice or 355 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: ask me anything, you know I'd be more willing to help. 356 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: When did it click for you from I'm a really 357 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: great athlete at USC. I can dominate anybody. Just use 358 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: my fuddicism too, Okay, I've got to be a technician 359 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: in what I do every day. When did that sort 360 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: of change and click for you? Um, you know, I 361 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: think when it comes down to play study and studying 362 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: your opponent. I think that was the biggest thing for me, 363 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, because obviously I started off great, but then 364 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: obviously the guys you're playing against our professionals, and they're 365 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: going to find your weaknesses and what you don't do well. 366 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: And you know, that's kind of what you gotta watch. 367 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: You gotta always learned to adapt and change your game 368 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: and not rely on the same things that got you here, 369 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: because eventually they're going to figure it out and they're 370 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: going to adapt to that. And you know, that's the 371 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: biggest thing about being professional. There's always a learning curve. 372 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: There's always something you can learn, and um, you know, 373 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: I hear it all the time every year I played, 374 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: and it's once you think you know everything, you know, 375 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's kind of when you come to 376 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: a halt. I think about this a lot of times. 377 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: I think about pass rushers and I think about sort 378 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: of the chess game that they play, that they're setting 379 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: up a move for something they might use later in 380 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: the game. How do you look at pass protection in particular? 381 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: I think you look at what he does best. Is 382 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: he a speed guy? Is he a speed to power guy? Um? 383 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: Does he like to spin inside? Is he a big 384 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: inside guy? Does he like to go inside a lot? Um? 385 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: And kind of break that down. You know, what's the percentage? 386 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: What is he doing on you know, big rushing downs, 387 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: you know third and long's third and five to ten? 388 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: You know what does he like to do in those 389 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, high pass rush situations? And then I think, 390 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: for me, I've always taken an approach if based on 391 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: where he's aligned, I know where I need to set, 392 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: I know where the quarterback is going to be. And 393 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: if I do that, um, you know most of the 394 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: times I'm gonna win. It's usually when you get in 395 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: the mind game where you're thinking too much about what 396 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna do rather than you know, I've always taught 397 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, you always like it's it's from a baseball approach. 398 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: You always try to hit the fastball, but you know, 399 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: look out for the curveball. Yeah, so I'm always taking 400 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: that same set and you know, you just saw about 401 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: reacting and adjusting. Hopefully you've watched enough film to kind 402 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: of know what he's gonna do and what he's good 403 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: at doing and just adjusting the game. Matt Clill with 404 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: us so USC connections Brian could shying strength and conditioning 405 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: coach and assistant. What is it like seeing him in 406 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: that role? He's awesome, man. I feel like he's really 407 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: embraced it, obviously, from what he's done for this organization 408 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: and UM, what he means to this city and everything 409 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: he's given to this UM, this organization. UM, people have 410 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for him. So obviously, UM, you know, 411 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm picking his brain, ask him anything I can, um, 412 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: just to try to get me ahead, and you know, 413 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: to try to learn anything I can UM obviously, because 414 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: he's such a great player and uh, you know a 415 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: lot of guys have respect for him. So it's cool 416 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: to kind of see him embrace that, uh you know 417 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: kind of strength and conditioning role. And you know, obviously, 418 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: I think anyone's seeing his body and you know, what 419 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: he's capable of doing in the weight room, So I 420 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: think that role fits him perfectly and for what he 421 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: wants to do in the future. I was also hoping 422 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: for some rasing though a couple of former teammates Now 423 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: he's the coach. Oh yeah, no, you know, we joke 424 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: around and keep it light. But um, you know, you 425 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: know he's he's a great guy, and uh yeah, I 426 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: think he's gonna do well with what he's doing right now. 427 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: What is it about USC that puts so many players 428 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: into the NFL? I mean, what was it about that? 429 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you your brother, coush. I mean, there's so 430 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: many of them. But what was it about USC for 431 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: you that makes it such a great place for players 432 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: go get their college years and then be successful into 433 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. Um. You know, it came in when you know, 434 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: I watched my brother play and um, you know, seeing 435 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: Ryan go through that, he was a you know, three 436 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: star center. Um actually went to UCLA to their camp, 437 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: and you know, they said he didn't have a lot 438 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: of room to grow and didn't know how he was 439 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: going to do in the future. And he ended up 440 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: going to the USC's you know, open football camp or 441 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: they brought all their top recruits. They'd stuck him in 442 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: there one on one at center I think like ten 443 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: twelve reps in row, and he beat everyone, every one 444 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: of those guys. And then um came in Jeff Byers, 445 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: who was Gatoray Player of the Year, was coming in 446 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: and you know, everyone thought he was going to start, 447 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: and Ryan beat him out, and um, you know I 448 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: looked at that and saw that, you know, it's not 449 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: just a name that's gonna get you to start. It's 450 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: all about competition, and um, you know, no one has 451 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: a free ride kind of going through that school. And um, 452 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: that's what was attracted to me is you know, when 453 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: Carol was recruiting me, came in right away and he said, like, listen, 454 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: He's like, if if you're the best guy, if you're 455 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: one of the best five guys, you'll start a tackle, 456 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: if or anywhere on the offense line. But um, you know, 457 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: if you're not, you gotta work your way up and 458 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: you got to earn that right. So it was all 459 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: about competition. I think that's what brings the best out 460 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: of people, is learning how to compete and um, you know, 461 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: earning what you get. People look at Pete Carroll and 462 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: he seems like he's so much fun and everything, and 463 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: they see the videos and some of the interaction with 464 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: the players, but there's an intensity there. So what's it 465 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: like to work for him? It's great, man. You know, 466 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: he knows when it makes it up. He knows when 467 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: to take care of the guys, and he knows, you know, 468 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: when when it's time to get down to business. But uh, yeah, 469 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: that's when I had him at SC So you know, 470 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: just from my experience having him there, Uh you know, 471 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: he's always been an up tempo guy and uh, you know, 472 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: what you see on the cameras is what he's like 473 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. So pretty authentic guy. Mad As you've 474 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: been around the building here in Houston, you've got a 475 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: chance to know the coaches a little bit. Now, got 476 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: a chance to know the players a little bit. What 477 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: do you see in this organization and what do you 478 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: see with this team for twenty nineteen? Just the total mindset. 479 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: I think coach O'Brien's really harped on it, and it's 480 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: at tension to detail. It's the little things and sometimes 481 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: it's those little things accumulating to bigger problems. And you know, 482 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: it's about solving the little problems that make the great teams. 483 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: So you know, we've been really harpinting on the details 484 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: and kind of the fine nite things on the offense, 485 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I think that's really important. And uh, 486 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, we got a lot of talent on this team, 487 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I think we can definitely do great things. 488 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 1: And especially from what I've seen in the locker room, 489 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: how close these group of guys are. I mean, it's 490 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: really awesome to see that. So that's kind of rare 491 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: to get a team like that. Definitely some special Matt, 492 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us, A good luck. We've 493 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: caught up with Matt Khalil twice now and he's really interesting. 494 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: It's an interesting situation at tackle because you have Khalil, 495 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: you have Julio Davenport, who played the position last year. 496 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: On the left side, you have Howard who was just 497 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: drafted in the first round. Of a lot of possibilities. 498 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: We'll see how it all comes out in the mix 499 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: throughout training camp. Maybe some more in OTAs, but really 500 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: once they get at the camp and start hitting, and 501 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: then of course it's regular season time before you know it, 502 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: in mid September, so it's anybody's guess how that thing's 503 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: going to be situated. The old lot I'm talking about 504 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: when they open Monday night football at New Orleans coming up. 505 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: Like we said a little bit on past interference, the nuances, 506 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: the adjustment this week and my Rockets Texans analogy. You 507 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: want to hear that as Johnny and I debate on 508 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: Texans All Access Keeping your Company on Thursday. No General tonight, 509 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: know John mcclin this evening, It's Mark Vandermayer, John Harris 510 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: with you in the Hunday Texans Radio studio. I point 511 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: out that the General is not here because I know 512 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: many of you tune in to hear him and hear 513 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: him opine about not only the NFL, but entertainment in general. 514 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: So we will do that next week with John McClain. 515 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: And we have things to get to that I promised, 516 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: including but not limited to pass interferrets. That may change 517 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: this week. Johnny that now the new rules going to 518 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: be Yes, you can challenge pass inter ferrets, and you 519 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: have to challenge it throughout the entire game. If you 520 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: want to reverse a call, you cannot count on an 521 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: automatic review inside the final two minutes. It should be 522 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: pointed out that the Saints and Rams they did their 523 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: thing inside the final two minutes. Now, the Saints did 524 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: have timeouts to use, by the way, in that game. 525 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: Side note here Saints kick a field goal to go ahead. Yes, 526 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: the Rams drive down the field and Zeroline hits the 527 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: forty eight yard field goal to tie the game. They 528 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: go to overtime and the Rams win. Right, had the 529 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: Saints scored a touchdown right there, it's not just that 530 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: they could have scored a touchdown. They could have run 531 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: some clock. They could run the clock completely out with 532 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: a timeout. They could have run it out, just kicked 533 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: the field goal in one that way, that's the thing. 534 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: It's not a touchdown would make that much difference, which 535 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: it would have, but they were able to run the 536 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: clock out at that point. The Rams couldn't stop the 537 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: clock more than once. Yeah. I think that the Rams 538 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: had one time out. I believe so yeast down with that. Yeah, 539 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: then they run the ball three times into the line, 540 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: kick a few Look, we've seen field goals missed, right, 541 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: It happens, but they likely win. They run the clock 542 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: all the way to probab win the game. Yeah, that's 543 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: one of those deals where you try and invite on 544 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: one of those plays, you try and invite them to 545 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: you let them score because that's really your only chance 546 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: for the Rams at that point. You let him score 547 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: a touchdown. It sounds counter too to be like, wait, 548 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 1: you you let him score because that's the only way 549 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna get the ball back. So at that point 550 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: you gotta be smart enough you view the Saints, and 551 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: that's what the Giants paper bowl against the the uh, 552 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: the Patriots, but a mod Bradshaw got too far in 553 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: and then he fell into the end zone. Yeah, and 554 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: so that gave the Patriots some time to to try 555 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: and go down and score that the Indianapolis one. That 556 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: was Indianapolis one. That was the second one the Giants 557 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: had won over the Patriots. So that may have happened. 558 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 1: Maybe the Saints running back makes a mistake and goes 559 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: in the end zone. That gives the Rams some time. 560 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: But at that point, once they get the yardage, it's 561 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: probably a chip shot field goal. At that point he 562 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: probably just Sean Payne probably has Drew Brees taken eave. 563 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: But the point being Sean Payton had challenges to use 564 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: had the rule been a place, I believe so. But 565 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: here's the thing, like I've pointed out many times in 566 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: these shows in the offseason, you rarely go to the 567 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: locker room having spent your challenges, right you. So obviously 568 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: a challenge is not just the flag, but the time 569 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: out that you must invest potentially if you'll lose the challenge. 570 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: If you don't have a time out, it doesn't matter. 571 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: If you have a challenge flag, you can't challenge it. 572 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: You know what, it would be good too. I would 573 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: like to pull not only Obi, but I would love 574 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: to pull the NFL coaches about when they should have 575 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: their challenges by the fourth quarter, because if you think 576 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: about when, think about it for a second, what are 577 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: the biggest plays in the first half of a game? 578 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: For the most part, touchdowns and turnovers right right, those 579 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: are automatically reviewed, automatically reviewed, So you really not saying 580 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: that you can't take a chance, But most case is 581 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: you should have your review in your pocket ready to 582 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: go by you know, the second half, by the fourth quarter. 583 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: So I would think Sean had a challenge, but now 584 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: it's on the coach. Yeah, so go, well wait a second, 585 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: do I do? And I that amps up the pressure 586 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: on coaches from that perspective. I've got a tweak. I've 587 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: got a tweak for you. Here's a tweak. Give them 588 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: three challenges, no matter what I'll tell you why. This 589 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: is past interference. We're talking about. This thing's a big deal, okay, 590 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: and you need to make sure that. Yeah, if they 591 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: run out, fine, but I think two might not be enough. 592 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't like stopping the game either. And I don't 593 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: like when Mike Florio always says, hey, have an eye 594 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: in the sky. Guy who's gonna stop the game when 595 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: he sees something iffy. I don't like that. I like 596 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: challenges because otherwise the game will stop all the time. 597 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: It would be so herky jerky, it'll be like college football. 598 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to see that. I want to see 599 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: this game flow. And yeah, it does put a lot 600 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: of pressure on the coaches, absolutely, and they're at the 601 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: mercy of good replay angles and everything else. But they're 602 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: just gonna have to live with it that way. Well. 603 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: The one thing that the NFL wants to do, which 604 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: I agree with all this, is they want to take 605 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: out hail mary place in the review process. Yes, because 606 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: there's so much contact. Guys are getting shoved around, so 607 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: the only time I can't I don't know that I've 608 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: ever seen a flag thrown a hill mary, but I 609 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: have seen some guys get away with some stuff on 610 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: a hill Mary. And they have to define a hail 611 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: mary too, right, That's true? All right, if you're at 612 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: if you're at the twenty five the opponent twenty five 613 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: yard line, and it's I got one second left, so 614 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: I've one snap left in the game. I don't know 615 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: if that's a hail mary. Right, you can run a 616 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: play now, even though the defense they're gonna go four 617 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: guys across the goal line and whatever, maybe more and 618 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: do it that way. I'll be interested to find out 619 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: exactly how they define a hail mary. Yeah, I'm with 620 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: you on that, because that's that does get that does 621 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: get kind of sticky. But that's that's why I said, Oh, 622 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: along with this whole pass interference rep play thing, I 623 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: just felt like there were way too many nuances that 624 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: you were gonna have to try and kind of sift through. 625 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: I I wish I like them going to the booth 626 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: with two minutes left, but I don't. I don't know. 627 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of that. I'm almost to 628 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: a point of Pete Carroll like, take replay away, but no, 629 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: but no, you have this technology, so let's use it. 630 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: But is it too widely available to everybody? I know? 631 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: I know, and and that puts the pressure on the referee. 632 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Is not that there wasn't pressure before. But I said, 633 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm not all the way there yet. I'm thinking that. 634 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: But here's here's what I like. If you have two 635 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: or three challenges and I'm I'm okay with that, just 636 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: leave that. But I don't like the fact that inside 637 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: two minutes the rules for this, yeah, I know are 638 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: one way, but for past interference they're a different way. 639 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: I like, either make it, make it all, make it 640 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: all the same, everything's reviewable in two minutes. Gotta throw 641 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: the flag outside. We already broke the seal on this 642 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: with the extra point, right, because now it's a thirty 643 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: three yard extra point, okay, but if you go for two, 644 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: it's still at the two yard line, right, So why 645 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: is that? You know it used to be the same 646 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: yard line for both. Okay, whether you're gonna kick it 647 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: or run it or throw it. We're at the two 648 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: because it was a twenty yard extra point there, so 649 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: we've changed it for that. And if you get a penalty, right, 650 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: let's say there's a defensive penalty on the extra point, 651 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: It's not like you can take it at the one 652 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: now and go for two from the one, right, you 653 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: still have all right, we'll move it in closer for 654 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: the kick, but you can't change your mind. You were 655 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: gonna kick it. You gotta kick it. So we have 656 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: a lot of nuances like this anyway, But I know 657 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: what you mean. It would be cleaner if you could 658 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: say everything's automatically reviewed inside two minutes or whatever or not. 659 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: But now you have the flag throwing your challenge flag 660 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: thrown only for this particular penalty pass in affair. I'm 661 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: trying to think if there is any way where a 662 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: particular play might be perceived as one thing and it 663 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: has to go up for a booth review as opposed to, hey, 664 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: you got to throw the challenge flag. That's in me 665 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of interesting, like, hey, that place should be challenged, Well, 666 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: what part of it is being challenged? Yeah, So I 667 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: wonder if there's going to be any any issue there where, 668 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: or you've got to be very clear, like that was 669 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: you gotta tell that was definitely pass interference. Or if 670 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: you do think it's past interference and they go up 671 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: for review and they see something else, can they call 672 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: something else? Well what about this? I mean if you can, 673 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: if you could take a non call and turn it 674 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: into a call with pass interference, then that could happen 675 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: because how about are his feed in or out? Oh 676 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: but now we see that he was being interfered with 677 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: when we're looking at the replay so closely, right, I mean, 678 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: that's a really good nance right there. So they have 679 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: a lot of things to discuss, you know, certain guys 680 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: like Floria, I'll mention him again, think it's going to 681 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: be a disaster. I don't think it'll be a disaster. 682 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: I think there will be some murky moments that will 683 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: generate a lot of talk. But I think we all 684 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: agree that there's some passive or fair and stuff. And 685 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: obviously the one in the NFC Championship game is the 686 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: impetus for this rule change. It's so blate. I mean 687 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: every time I watch it, I'm thinking, how did this happen? 688 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: And not only that they could have missed the helmet 689 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: the helmet contact to nothing else. Hey, somebody's gonna throw 690 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: a flag, you know what throw a flag? You could 691 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: always pick it up if it's like, oh wait, I 692 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: thought I saw something, but I didn't. But those guys 693 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: had to have been just really upset with themselves after 694 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: the game for screwing that up. Yeah, it's not surprising 695 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: in some sense if you think about it that. I mean, 696 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: that's such a big game. Everybody panics. Everybody has a 697 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: moment of panic in a big game, everybody, players, coaches. Yeah, 698 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: because that was like the thirteen yard line, right, I mean, 699 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: everything's happening. Yeah, I mean it's I'm sure they saw it. 700 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: The one thing I thought was interesting about the video 701 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 1: was the one side judge was like no, no, no no, 702 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean like immediately shaking his head and all that, 703 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: and the guy in the back, you know, saw it, 704 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: but he was sort of referring to the guy that 705 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: should have had the call. Oh you got to throw. 706 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, that didn't stop Ohio State Miami back in 707 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and three National champions I can see season. Yeah, 708 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 1: that was I mean he signaled incomplete then reached into 709 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: his pocket through the flag. Yeah, Like, what is that? 710 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: It's just the fag and he's from Ohio. Conspiracy theory. 711 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: I brought this up earlier. What do the Rockets and 712 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: Texans have in common when it comes to a nemesis opponent. 713 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: Now it's not in apples to apples analogy here, but 714 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: obviously the Patriots have been a problem for the Texans 715 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: and two playoff appearances the Warriors have been a tremendous 716 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: problem for the Rockets and multiple playoff appearances. And I 717 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: got a couple of things to sit here. Daryl Morey's 718 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: tweet about, well, in the last three years, the Rockets 719 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: are five and eight against the Warriors. Why while everyone 720 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: else is five and I think thirty four? Okay? And 721 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: there was another tweet, this one from Patrick Beverley, who's 722 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: now a Clipper, saying, the Clippers, I'm paraphrasing, played the 723 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: Warriors better than anybody. They won two games. The Rockets 724 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: won two games. Let's not lose our minds, folks. Here's 725 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: the thing. The Warriors are so good that they got 726 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: everybody fighting over who lost better. That's what it is 727 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: with the Texans and the Patriots. You know, we in 728 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. I'm not saying we are happy 729 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: with the performance at New England, but we talked about 730 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: and national media too, talked about how well the Texans 731 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: played the Patriots. But the Patriots are so good. We 732 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: talk about, hey, you played really well in a loss. 733 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: That's how great New England is. That's how great the 734 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: Warriors are. And it's just these teams need to be 735 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: dethroned Darnet. Somebody's got to do the job. The Patriots 736 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: were sixteen point favorites and we play exceptionally well and 737 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: they still covered and they still covered well. Not part 738 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 1: of that was because of the Brockster Well, the fourth 739 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: quarter meltdown, but at the half it was seventeen thirteen. 740 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: You felt like, well, you're not you know, in the 741 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: Catbird scene. Okay, you're down four, but you feel pretty 742 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: good about being down four. You got to play much 743 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: better in the second half. You have a chance here 744 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: at the half. Although seventeen thirteen was a halftime score 745 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: of the twenty twelve playoff game, when they but il 746 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: goal was made at the end of the half, they 747 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: felt differently. Though it did feel it felt differently, and 748 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: it felt like you had not Brady's number, but you're 749 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: definitely getting too Brady. I mean Clowney and Merciless that 750 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: night were unbelievable. Yeah, I mean they were unbelieving. I 751 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,959 Speaker 1: remember Clowney hitting Brady on a screen, a little swing 752 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: route out to running back. I don't have his screen. 753 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: I think it was a little swing route to running back, 754 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: maybe a screen. Clowney got on him so fast and 755 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: I swear I thought he killed him when he hit him. 756 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, what I mean? It was. 757 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable to watch that night. But it's twenty 758 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: four to sixteen. You're one score down, Yeah, you've got 759 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: the ball. What if we're twenty four seen one score 760 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: and number four is at quarterbacks? I like my chances 761 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: a lot better. Now, Okay, follow a year you had 762 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: number four in the regular season and you had the league. Yeah, 763 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: you did, and you had two scoring drives. The well, 764 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't the last time you touched the ball, because 765 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: the last time you touch the ball you did him 766 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: enough time to do anything with it really productive. But 767 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: the last two legitimate possessions you had two scoring drives, 768 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: but there were field goals, not touchdowns. And that's the 769 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: big problem against New England. You gotta score sevens and 770 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: really put the pressure on them. Okay, I give you. 771 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: I have asked you this question before. Okay, you're down 772 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: one score middle of the fourth quarter right in New 773 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: England in a playoff game. Yeah, given this entire season, 774 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: where you could be where I'm not telling you it's 775 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: wildcard round round, Tony, It's division round with TONI AFC Championship. Oh, 776 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna give me the ball, Right'm giving you the 777 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: ball at the twenty yard line. After an Alan punt 778 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: goes in the end zone. You get the ball at 779 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: to twenty. You're down by seven, there are seven minutes left, 780 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: you have one time out, you have the Sean Watson, 781 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: you got all your dudes healthy. It's happening in a 782 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: playoff round at Gillette. You're taking that? Are you're gonna 783 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: let the twenty nineteen season play? Oh? We're playing. Let's 784 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: make a football Yeah, let's make a football deal. Which 785 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: one do you take it? I'll take it right down, 786 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Monty. I will take being down seven with 787 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: seven minutes to go in New England with Watson at 788 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: the helm. Yes, I'll take it right now because I 789 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: got a feeling that if I'm in that situation, I'm 790 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: at the very least in the divisional round. Maybe I'm 791 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game. And I'm looking at this 792 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: season and I cannot tell you. I never can tell 793 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: you what's gonna happen, right, but I look at the schedule, 794 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be very difficult. You don't know 795 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: what the health situation is gonna be. I mean, look, 796 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: there's so many unknowns. So if you're gonna be the 797 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: known of being in the postseason with Watson at the 798 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: helm down seven in the fourth quarter, that means I'm 799 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: playing with him. That means I am going toe to 800 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: toe with New England and I just need to score 801 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: a touchdown to tie the game. It's still a very 802 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: tough you gotta go eighty yards and seven minutes. It's 803 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: still like you gotta get not only to the peak 804 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: of Everest, but you gotta get back down the mountain 805 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, there's a lot to do, but 806 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: I'll take my chances there. And I think you would too. 807 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely the schedule, with what they've got to play this schedule, 808 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: and you're right, more than likely that's a division around 809 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: playoff game, I would think. So you're you're a score 810 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: away from tying it up to potentially go to the 811 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: AFC Championship for the first time. Yeah, Or you're in 812 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship with a chance to get to the 813 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Give me a chance to do that. Yeah, 814 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: I'll neither. I don't think it's gonna be a wildcard round. 815 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't think, but I would. I would 816 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: take that. I would take that. Okay. I want to 817 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: see number four with a shot to tire go ahead 818 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: late in a game, in a playoff. I want to 819 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: see that with enough time to do it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 820 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: Not like thirty seconds and you gotta go from your 821 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: one yard line and score eight points. No, I want 822 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: to I want to legit shot. I gotta see some 823 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: players with you know here, you were against Indie and 824 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: it was a day where everything went wrong. You know, 825 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: you're the jumping off sides that wasn't really offside because 826 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: the clock expired, but they didn't catch it. Talk about 827 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: them not catching things like I'd love to review that 828 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: little number right there, or review a non faced mask 829 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: call against Watson late and a half. If you're punching 830 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: him right there, you're down seven. Now you're down fourteen, 831 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: but you score seven maybe, and you know, maybe things change, 832 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: you never know. I mean they eventually got another touchdown. 833 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: Now you're down stet maybe you have a shot to 834 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: do it right. Yeah, A healthy Hopkins would help too. 835 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me started on that Ployard game. Yeah, 836 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: they beat the heck out of us that day. And 837 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: they deserve to win the game, but that could give 838 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: them some inflated thank you, you know, some inflated projections 839 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: going into twenty nineteen, where you think, well, since that happened, 840 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: it's about to continue. That's the biggest mistake we always 841 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: make in sports, no matter what the situation is, no 842 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: matter what the sport, what we're talking about, if something 843 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: happened a certain way, well that's going to continue, you 844 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: that way, right, If a player is playing like this, 845 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna continue to play. You know, Tiger's never gonna 846 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: win another major, all right, that kind of thing, or 847 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: now he's gonna win ten, ten more majors. I don't know. 848 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: It's it's the old will C thing, all right, Johnny, 849 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Yeah. A couple of quick things on 850 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: the way out. First of all, I wrote a Vandermeer's 851 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: view on OTAs and that's where the magic happens, baby, 852 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: not all of it, but a big chunk of it. 853 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: So read about why I think why that is and 854 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: plenty of other articles diant day, foreman, what else do 855 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: we have on there? We have justin Reid. We have 856 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff, So go check it all out 857 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: on Houston Texans dot Com now this week and Clint Sterner. 858 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,919 Speaker 1: You hear him on Sports Radio six ten a lot. 859 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: He was never a Texan, we forgive him for that. 860 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: He was a cowboy. We'll forgive him for that as well. 861 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: But he's on Texans three sixties Saturday Night with Drew 862 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: Doherty at eleven pm on ABC thirteen. So here from Clint. 863 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: C Clint there, and you hear Clint on Sports Radio 864 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: sixtent does a great job evaluating the Houston Texans, So 865 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: check him out on the radio and on TV this 866 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: Saturday night at eleven o'clock. We will be back on 867 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: tomorrow at six with a radio program. It will be 868 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: chock full of information on your Houston Texans, interviews and whatnot. 869 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: And we will have a Memorial Day show as well. 870 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson JJ wants some best of stuff from them, 871 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: but stuff you are not going to want to miss 872 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: as you have your barbecue or whatever else you're doing 873 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: Memorial Day. I hope it's going to be a sweet 874 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: day for you and your family. Hope you get some 875 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: time off this weekend as well. Some of you are 876 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: taking Tomorrow off. I am not. I will be on 877 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten in the morning with mad Radio 878 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: eight to nine AM, so i'll talk to you then 879 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: and then tomorrow night on Texans All Access. Have a 880 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: great night everyone, and go Texans.