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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, welcome to the show. Great to have you

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Speaker 1: a board, Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you. We've

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Speaker 1: got another big program for you tonight. Jake Hansen, who

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Speaker 1: signed a contract extension, is going to be on the

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Speaker 1: show in this segment in just a few moments. Special

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Speaker 1: visit with Jake in studio and it was really cool.

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Speaker 1: Signed his deal right in front of us and then

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Speaker 1: we talked to him. This is awesome. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the videos up on YouTube yet at Houston Texans

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Speaker 2: At the end of this show.

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Speaker 1: I know we had Brian Cushing on last week during

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Speaker 1: our live program in front of the Houston Texans team

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Speaker 1: shop or actually in the team shop last week, but

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Speaker 1: he was also a guest on the pregame with Sean

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Speaker 1: and Seth. And you know, whenever you get somebody out

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Speaker 1: because many of you did not hear it. So that's

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Speaker 1: going to be the last thing you hear tonight in

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Speaker 1: the program before we get to Texan's matchup in our

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Speaker 1: number two, because that is special. You don't want to miss.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Harris talking about the Jags matchup. So much history

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Speaker 1: between the huge Texans and Jacksonville Jaguars, including unfortunately a

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars in two thousand and two. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: a little historical segment because again this is an AFC

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Speaker 1: South foe back in the division for back to back

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Speaker 1: games Jag Sunday Titans the following Sunday. The matter at hand,

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Speaker 1: you gotta beat the Jaguars this Sunday to get to

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Speaker 1: four and five and try that five hundred thing again

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Speaker 1: with back to back wins and take it from there.

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Speaker 3: But stop me.

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Speaker 1: Trade deadline came and went. We'll get to the Texans situation.

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Speaker 1: The biggest news of the day really the Colts situation,

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Speaker 1: because they traded for Sauce Gardner from the New York

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Speaker 1: freaking Jets, and the Jets got two ones and ad

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Speaker 1: Mitchell the Longhorn in the deal. Johnny Gut reaction Sauce

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Speaker 1: to the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Oh, great job, Jets, great job, great job Jets. That

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Speaker 2: was my first It was like I saw it. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: what I saw traded to the Colts, And I thought, okay.

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Speaker 2: Then I saw two first round picks and a player

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Speaker 2: and I just thought, wow, eighty Mitchell is the most

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Speaker 2: explosive player that the Colts have had, and he is

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Speaker 2: now gone. Now, obviously he had some mistakes, he had

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Speaker 2: some issues. He I don't want to see single handedly

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Speaker 2: costing the Rams game, but he single handedly costing the

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Speaker 2: Rams game and he hasn't played much lately, and I

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Speaker 2: just think, holy smokes. There's so many thoughts. But from

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Speaker 2: the Jets side of it, you get two first rounders,

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Speaker 2: you in getting a second first rounder, you get a

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven first rounder, and twenty twenty seven's draft

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Speaker 2: is going to be loaded. Really, you said the receivers,

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Speaker 2: there's a ton of receivers. The edge rushers are unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Colin Simmons, Dylan Stewart from I saw Carolina, it is

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Speaker 2: loaded in twenty twenty seven. So getting those first round

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Speaker 2: confusing aspects on the colt side so many I you know,

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Speaker 2: lou An and Rumo took over as the defensive coordinator. Now,

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Speaker 2: maybe down deep lou An Rumo is we're gonna play

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Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner. And he's gonna shut down one half of

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Speaker 2: the field. Sorry, but that's not that's not Anon Rumo's defense.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think. I don't think Sauce is up

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Speaker 3: I really don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's up for that we're gonna shut

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Speaker 2: down one side of the field thing. I really don't.

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Speaker 2: I think the last couple of years. Hum, Chris Ballard

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Speaker 2: doesn't make moves like this. He doesn't give up two

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Speaker 2: round corners trading text with my buddy Lance aer Aline, Lance,

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Speaker 2: who knows Ballad really really well. I've known a bout

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Speaker 2: for a long time. This just doesn't feel like a Ballard.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Wait a.

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Speaker 1: Minute, you're not insinuating that the oh I'm insinuating. See

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Speaker 1: I'm insinuating carriers, say Gordon, i'mating may or may not

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Speaker 1: not be unprecedented. Unprecedented in that organization, of course, because

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Speaker 1: this is an organization that once upon a time, not

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Speaker 1: So that does not sound like something Chris Ballard would

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Speaker 1: have done either. No, that was an ownership move right there.

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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like a GM kind of move to

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Speaker 1: trade two ones for Sauce Gardner.

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Speaker 2: Are you wait, wait, wait, wait, trading two ones for somebody? Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're saying it doesn't work out signed, Well, look all right,

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Speaker 2: so let's go there for Abe. We did it once

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Speaker 2: upon a time here for Laramie.

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Speaker 1: Now, you paid a lot for Laramie, and you needed

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Speaker 2: It didn't get you over the.

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Speaker 1: Top, but you know, you had Laramie, but you lost

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Speaker 1: those ones, and those were big losses when you had

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Speaker 1: so that's good. Now they're gonna get Sauce a good corner.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's not as great as two ones, but you

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Speaker 1: lose those ones. Here's the other element here. When the

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Speaker 1: the time was your franchise quarterback. We could put it

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Speaker 1: thinking right now, here's the thought process at the time.

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Speaker 1: Bodyguard for him. Have the Colts long term solved their

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Speaker 2: Is it Daniel Jones?

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Speaker 3: Is it him?

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Speaker 1: Because you gave up two Ones? That's you saying we

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Speaker 1: got our guy, We're good. How are you going to

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you get lucky? Maybe you know.

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Speaker 1: Jones is part of this wave of their comparing him

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Speaker 2: Jones has got to complete the campaign.

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Speaker 1: Even Donald wasn't able to complete the campaign last year.

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Speaker 2: Jones has to beat a good team. Mark think of

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Speaker 2: the good teams he's played this year on the Colts

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis coach. It's just the Dolphins suck. The Broncos are good.

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Speaker 2: They won twenty nine to twenty eight, but they should

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Speaker 2: beat the Titans, they beat the Raiders, they beat the Cardinals. Yeah, like, okay,

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Speaker 2: the Chargers decent team, decent team. They got hot. They

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Speaker 1: I just think the Pittsburgh losses disturbing for that because

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Speaker 2: And now here comes the rest of their schedule. Now

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Speaker 2: they go to Germany this weekend'st the Falcons, then at Case,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough, but look they've got They have

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Speaker 1: seven wins right now, as we all know, it's not

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Speaker 1: still say the Colts obviously they're the favorite team to

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Speaker 1: going into the postseason if they win the division? Obviously

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Speaker 1: they host a home game, they host a playoff game

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Speaker 1: that opening week.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: It remains to be seen how this all works out,

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Speaker 1: of course, because you just made the deal.

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Speaker 2: But two ones just felt very steep to me. I

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Speaker 2: just feel like trading two months for any one player

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Speaker 2: didn't work. Teams that are traded two ones for a player.

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Speaker 2: You could argue that the Laramie Tunsul deal that included

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Speaker 2: because Laramie didn't give you five Pro Bowls. Now it ultimately,

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Speaker 2: I don't even say you ultimately didn't work out. I

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Speaker 2: just think it was time for Laramie to move on

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Speaker 1: But you also changed eras right a fly right, and

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Speaker 1: part of that was due to the fact that you

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Speaker 1: you know, after twenty twenty you had to totally rebuild

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Speaker 1: this thing with Nick Cassario, and he had to work

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Speaker 1: with no picks, right, Yeah, until he traded Watson, no

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was part of that draft. Davis Mills was

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Speaker 1: the miraculous recovery this week, which I'm all in for.

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Speaker 2: I hope that happens.

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Speaker 1: And of course Nico Collins is part of that draft

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. Well, what did the Rams give

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Speaker 2: That actually worked out for both sides. Yeah, that's one

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Speaker 2: Rams to where they are. Klill Mack was traded to

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears for two ones. No, didn't work out. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Raiders screwed that up because they didn't draft with

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Speaker 2: They're treating these ones like NBA ones. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: but four ones?

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Speaker 1: Okay, whatever, even those picks, Johnny, I look at the

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Speaker 1: great players in the NBA, and I look where they're drafted,

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Speaker 1: and not everybody can be the number one overall pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Some of these teams are drafting well

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Speaker 1: and they find the guy down the line. Okay, we

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Speaker 1: have more to talk about regarding this, and much more

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars because they are banged up beyond belief,

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Speaker 1: but we'll discuss that in the next segment. Right now,

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Speaker 1: let's get to Jake Hanson, who visited with us in

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Speaker 1: studio signing an extension Special teams player extraordinary really soiled

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Speaker 1: the linebacker for this team and part of that twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two undrafted free a class under Lovey Smith and

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Speaker 1: contract extension right here in the hun Day Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 2: Jake, congratulations, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you. Yeah, very lucky, very lucky.

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Speaker 2: Jake, I know, had you not gotten injured at ilinoi

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're to me. There's any no questions.

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Speaker 4: Well, I like to tell myself too how to get drafted.

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Speaker 4: It didn't expect me to make it.

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Speaker 4: More gratifying and kind of drives me to continue and

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Speaker 1: So Jake, with undrafted free agents, I know, sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: But Lovey Smith was here and he coached you in college.

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Speaker 1: How much did that play into you coming here? And

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean it was a huge it was

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Speaker 5: So it was just it was great continuity for me,

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Speaker 4: But then like once the draft was.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say something about the Falcons, but

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Speaker 2: like I said that, had you, had you been healthy

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Speaker 2: that's the more successful that you're going to be. How

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Speaker 2: do you look at that, Jake, as far as this

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it part of it was learning

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Speaker 5: I'm working to be more of an impact player on defense.

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Speaker 5: But I mean learning guy like from guys like Neville

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Speaker 5: Maybe just guys that are like rotational linebackers and special

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Speaker 4: So learning that you can make a great.

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Speaker 5: Living in this league playing on special teams and being

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Speaker 1: So how difficult does that make practice because you are

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Speaker 5: I mean, it adds another part of practice, but it's

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Speaker 5: just I mean, like you said, you know that that's

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Speaker 5: You want to stick around long enough, like you have to,

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Speaker 2: So yesterday, I don't even know if you noticed this,

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Speaker 4: We won't name Nan, we will.

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Speaker 2: Protect the innocent here, but you nearly tackled him to

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Speaker 2: there's no question. But you're as smart as it gets

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean it is like it's a play that

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Speaker 5: I mean, it doesn't happen often, right, like it rarely

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Speaker 4: It like lands in your lap and you can go

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Speaker 5: So, but we don't want it was a bigger guy,

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Speaker 1: So wait, not to give away state secrets, but opponents,

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculously not good. So why is that? I know

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Speaker 1: Deniko's got two of them? You guys, are you making

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Speaker 5: I mean I think well, one, Deniko Autry's like the

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Speaker 5: they he does a great job getting them prepared and

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Speaker 4: With block kicks. So we're very lucky to have those

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Speaker 2: When you come into the NFL, very rarely do you

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Speaker 5: Well, my wife and I we love it. It's the city.

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Speaker 4: We love it. And yeah, I'm excited to be an

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Speaker 1: When did you get married again? It wasn't that long ago? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So it's been it's been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: And it'd be cool to say that, like we spent

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Speaker 4: Uh, hopefully spend as many as we can, so.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to ask you about how things are

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Speaker 2: it's still working all these months. How is it though

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Speaker 2: of time off traveling on every other weekend. But how

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Speaker 2: has that kind of been kind of I mean she

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Speaker 2: adjusted to it having been around for a while, it's

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Speaker 2: been like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we've been we've been living together for.

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Speaker 5: Like a few years before we got married, so she

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Speaker 5: knew what we were like what we were is going

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Speaker 5: into the season.

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Speaker 4: So it's been it's it's it's been great.

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Speaker 5: Like we know, like there's we need to take advantage

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Speaker 5: of Fridays like our date night and uh like tonight's

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Speaker 5: a good night. We're going into an off day and

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Speaker 5: we get to spend a little more time with each

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Speaker 5: other on the off day, and we just.

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Speaker 4: Make we maximize the time we have. And uh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's been it's been great, man.

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Speaker 5: And I always tell people who married license hasn't been

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Speaker 5: any different than what it was before.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's the way. That's the way we want

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Speaker 4: to keep it.

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Speaker 2: All right, one more for you.

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Speaker 1: It's Salute to Service week as the Texans take on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. So you have to join a branch of

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Speaker 1: the Armed Services Army, Navy, air Force, Marines, or Coastguard.

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Speaker 1: Which one are you joining?

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Speaker 4: Jake?

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Speaker 1: We're sending you away for four or five years, so

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Speaker 1: you have to pick.

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Speaker 5: I feel like ED want to go, probably the Air Force,

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Speaker 5: airflying plane.

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Speaker 2: Flat planes, top Yeah, I know, top gun. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: what would what would your codename be? There's Maverick, there's Viper. Uh,

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Speaker 2: there was Hangman that was in the newest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, probably just be like my Instagram handle jugs or something.

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Speaker 2: That's part all sign jugs. YEAHI graphics to do a

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Speaker 2: helmet for you.

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Speaker 3: Jake.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, Thanks a love for joining us. Thank you guys,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you all right, there's Jake Hanson.

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Speaker 2: Great to visit with Jake.

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Speaker 1: When we get back, more on the trade deadline situation

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Speaker 1: and the Jags, who are really banged up coming in

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Speaker 1: here on Sunday, what they might look like. It's all

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Speaker 1: happening here on Texans Radio. Right back into the fray

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Speaker 1: here in the hun Day Texans Radio studio. Mark vandermir

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you. Great to hear from Jake Hanson

484
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Speaker 1: in the last segment. Plenty of reaction to the Sauce Gardner,

485
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Speaker 1: to the Colts deal, and the Jags also making a

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Speaker 1: deal today. Jacobi Meyers receiver going from the Raiders to

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville for a four and a six, and the Jags

488
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Speaker 1: are all sorts of banged up at receiver. They have

489
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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter on IR right now, but he can come back.

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Speaker 1: They have Brian Thomas Junior all banged up. Johnny Diami

491
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Speaker 1: Brown is all banged up. This is tough because late

492
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Speaker 1: in that game with the Raiders, they were going with

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Speaker 1: names you don't know so well at receiver and somehow

494
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Speaker 1: pulled it out against the Raiders there and there are

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Speaker 1: numerous things I want to talk about regarding that game

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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars, but Meyers a jag thoughts they.

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Speaker 2: Got to get him in doctrinated quickly because with no

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, he won't be able to come off ir

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Speaker 2: at least for the next three weeks. But it sounds

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Speaker 2: like it's gonna be a little longer than that. Brian

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Speaker 2: Thomas Junior will be the big one. I know he

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Speaker 2: missed time in that Raiders game, and I want to

503
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Speaker 2: say he came back in, but at the end of

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Speaker 2: the game, Trevor Lawrence is thrown to Tim Jones. He's iffy.

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Speaker 1: I think Thomas as iffy and brown as if he

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Speaker 1: and also if he on the defensive side, Devin Lloyd,

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Speaker 1: if he for that one one with a calf, so

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Speaker 1: that could be a nice miss for the Texans because

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Speaker 1: he was an animal when they played him in North.

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Speaker 2: Flot destroyed us, destroyed us. And you know when you

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Speaker 2: go to our lads, which is where I get my

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Speaker 2: depth chart information, because they updated pretty policy. They color

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Speaker 2: code everything, so if it's like a magenta, that's a rookie.

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Speaker 2: If it's red, it's somebody hurt. And they have six

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Speaker 2: receivers listed. Three of them have read Brian Thomas junior,

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Speaker 2: Tim Patrick, Diamie Brown, at least, Parker Washington recently acquired

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Speaker 2: Jakobe Myers and Austin Trammell. Yeah, I think of Rice

518
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Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, in that game, Yeah, he did,

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Speaker 2: he did some good things. And then on defense, what

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Speaker 2: two guys probably hurt us more than any other, Devin

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Speaker 2: Lloyd and Jordan Lewis, and both of them are listed

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Speaker 2: in red. Josh Allen is still upright last night checked,

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Speaker 2: and that's Trayvon Walker got ejected from that game throwing

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Speaker 2: a punch. Yeah, but I don't think that would bleed

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Speaker 2: over to our game.

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Speaker 1: I wish it would just to teach them, just to

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Speaker 1: teach molest just to teach him.

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Speaker 2: Repeated offenses, I guess, which is what they got disease

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Speaker 2: for last year.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, boy, they've lightened up on these because Frankie

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Speaker 1: Luvu gets one game and he's the hip drop specialist.

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Speaker 2: Right, and that's happened multiple times.

534
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Speaker 1: And as these gets ripped by the league in three games,

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Speaker 1: it's all.

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Speaker 2: Optics, I guess. So you know what's got to be.

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Speaker 1: It's all optics, you know, Johnny, And this is a

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Speaker 1: tangent the league's finding system and punishment system.

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Speaker 2: I've always wanted it to be more uniform than it is.

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Speaker 3: Exact.

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Speaker 1: These fine numbers are absolutely silly, Right, You have these

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Speaker 1: weird dollar amounts and nothing really makes sense. And then

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Speaker 1: you start looking at this equals that, and it really doesn't.

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Speaker 1: You're looking for something congruent. It's just not there.

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Speaker 2: And then as he's in the locker room, he's asked

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Speaker 2: about to hit, and I felt like A Z's handled

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Speaker 2: it about as well as she could have, because he's

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Speaker 2: talking about, you know, Chris Abrams drain watching a guy

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Speaker 2: that he hit on a field and what that is

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Speaker 2: like and everything. And then as he's made the point,

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Speaker 2: which was there's not even a penalty called, whereas when

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Speaker 2: that happened against us in Jacksonville, he got a penalty

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Speaker 2: for the hit, he got a penalty for personal file

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Speaker 2: I think after so it was like thirty yards of penalties.

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Speaker 2: And then he gets suspended for three games. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: on top of being fine, I'm sure. So it's like,

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Speaker 2: holy cow, the equity in that is it isn't there.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's that's the part to me that

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Speaker 2: that bothers me is just is the equity. I've we

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Speaker 2: went through the hit the CJ took and I've seen

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Speaker 2: different angles of that hit, and do not get me wrong,

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Speaker 2: it is a violent hit and I hated seeing my

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Speaker 2: guy get hit that way. But Chris Abrams Drain was

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Speaker 2: guilty of really just hitting him hard as he was

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Speaker 2: going to the ground, But he didn't lead with his head.

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Speaker 2: He didn't hit CJ in the head. But the fact

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Speaker 2: that we spent the year prior missing our middle linebacker

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Speaker 2: and our defensive leader for three games because the NFL

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Speaker 2: arbitrarily said, oh yeah, he should be suspended for three

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Speaker 2: games for that kind of hit, It's like, wait a second, whoa?

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Speaker 2: And then the basis for their argument was, you know

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Speaker 2: the letter that came from John Runyon that criticizes Ease

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Speaker 2: for the type of basically the type of person he was.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, it got personal, bro, what is this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But they never repealed it, and that's that to me.

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Speaker 2: You can mark. You can't have that. You can't have

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Speaker 2: a gap like that.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: If you would have said Asease gets fined for he

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Speaker 2: gets fined and he gets suspended for a game, understood,

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Speaker 2: I could? I would today I would feel like, all right,

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Speaker 2: Frankie luvu one game for doing you know, the repeated

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Speaker 2: hip drop tackles, for multiple hip drop tackles, like, okay,

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Speaker 2: a game. You will never convince me that Aziz al

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Speaker 2: show I should have gotten three games for a suspension

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Speaker 2: last year. Never And that to me, the inequity is

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Speaker 2: what bothers me the most.

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Speaker 1: Look, take that out of it, Abram's drain. I really

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Speaker 1: felt like could have held up a little bit better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe a lot better. I thought the flag, the picking

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Speaker 1: up of the flag after all, that was a little

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Speaker 1: too much.

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Speaker 2: Leave the flag. We just lost our quarterback. It was

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Speaker 2: clearly a hard hit.

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Speaker 1: Clearly I thought he could have held up a little

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Speaker 1: maybe can't stop the contact.

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Speaker 2: I get it, there's a slide. I'm already engaged.

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Speaker 1: But he went low to get him a little extra

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Speaker 1: because he's a quarterback. And that was effective, if you will,

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Speaker 1: lack of a better term, as CJ was knocked out

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Speaker 1: of the freaking game. All right, So on that subject, wait,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second. Yeah, we just did the math

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Speaker 1: on something. Had that happened for the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: nine Saints.

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Speaker 2: M No, I'm not gonna go there. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: go there. Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna go there,

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Speaker 2: but just you know, all right, let's go. Let's go here.

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Speaker 1: Concussion protocol and Nick Asario, we visited with him. You'll

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Speaker 1: hear that tomorrow night, and that might be on YouTube already.

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Speaker 1: Our visit with the executive vice president and general manager.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the protocol. There are various stages to

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Speaker 1: go through. You would need everything to click absolutely perfectly

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Speaker 1: to see CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud on Sunday. He would have to pass.

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Speaker 1: The first test and then do a little something and

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Speaker 1: then pass the second. There are a lot of hurdles,

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Speaker 1: a lot of hills to climb here to get him

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Speaker 1: in the lineup on Sunday. I'd love to see him

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Speaker 1: put on the cape and get there. But let's just say,

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Speaker 1: for the purposes of this conversation, you're gonna go with Davis,

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Speaker 1: Mills and Davis against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it. Four or five and one against

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Speaker 2: the division. This is a team.

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Speaker 1: He scene when he looks at that uniform Trevor Lawrence

626
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Speaker 1: across the way, fellow classmate from twenty twenty one. Even

627
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Speaker 1: though Mills was third rounder, Lawrence number one overall pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft.

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Speaker 2: This is not unfamiliar to Davis. Playing at home.

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Speaker 1: You know, you should be able to operate communication wise

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Speaker 1: effectively at home full week of practice.

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Speaker 2: I feel good about it.

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Speaker 1: In that way and their ability to put together a

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Speaker 1: game plan for Davis because I think the way the

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Speaker 1: defense is going to handle the Jags and you have

636
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Speaker 1: to stop ETN but this defense is capable of that.

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00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: This is the lowest scoring defense in Texans history through

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Speaker 1: eight weeks of play. This is the best defense they've

639
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: ever had, and the competition is tough.

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00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: These are not slouched teams.

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Speaker 1: They're playing to fatten up their stats, and they're playing

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00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: with an offense that is challenged a lot of the time,

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00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: YEP to move the ball, convert third downs, all that

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00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: they're on the field a lot. In other words, they

645
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: have to make stop after stop and they've been doing it,

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Speaker 1: so I like their chances of coming up with the

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Speaker 1: big stops against the Jags. You might have to win

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00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: this one fifteen to ten or something.

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Speaker 2: You might have to do that. You'll take it anyway.

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Speaker 1: You can get it, especially if your starting quarterback is out.

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Speaker 2: I say this all the time. My starting quarterback is

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Speaker 2: out and we've had CJ out for you know, two

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Speaker 2: games in his career well, one against the Artists formally

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Speaker 2: known as the Oilers and then against the Browns. Those

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Speaker 2: are only two games that he is now. He played

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Speaker 2: very slightly in the very shortly tight against the Titans

657
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Speaker 2: and twenty last year that was it. But there's those

658
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Speaker 2: two games, and I remember thinking, I don't care how

659
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Speaker 2: we do it. You could put you and me at quarterback,

660
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Just find Those are games where you

661
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Speaker 2: find a way to win. I tell this story a

662
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Speaker 2: lot many years ago when I was coaching. I lost

663
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Speaker 2: my quarterback and the second quarter of a game that

664
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Speaker 2: we absolutely had to have, like had to have it

665
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Speaker 2: the last ISCAR game we're playing. We had to win

666
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Speaker 2: that game to be able to have any shot at

667
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. And my quarterback was down in the middle

668
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Speaker 2: of the second quarter. We alread rushed one hundred ninety

669
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Speaker 2: yards at that point, and he accounted for one long

670
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Speaker 2: run of sixty five and another one like thirty five.

671
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Speaker 2: So I'm like, what do I do. I'm like, I

672
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: gotta do whatever takes to finish the game. So I

673
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: basically ran single wing the rest of the game. I

674
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Speaker 2: took my tailback. I put him in a shotgun. I

675
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Speaker 2: put the fullback next to him, and we just ran

676
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Speaker 2: a bunch of quarterback runs the way different things and

677
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Speaker 2: you're already running it. Well, it didn't at that point

678
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Speaker 2: the sexiness of the win, or, as Sean likes to say,

679
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: the style points, they don't matter. The style points do

680
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: not matter in any game in which my backup quarterback

681
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Speaker 2: is playing, and if Davis has to play, even though

682
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Speaker 2: Davis has played a lot of those games, I don't.

683
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Speaker 2: I don't care what the style points are. However you

684
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Speaker 2: score touchdowns. I don't care if you stumble bum your

685
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: way into fourteen points offensively and then a defense gives you.

686
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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't care. I have a suggestion, whatever

687
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: it takes. I have a suggestion.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what happened Week two in twenty eighteen when the

689
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Speaker 1: Titans were down to Blaine Gabbert Wild Henry. So I

690
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: want to see the wild Woodie? What a name that

691
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: would be? The wild Woody? Take some snabs, Woodie?

692
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: What about?

693
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Speaker 3: Okay?

694
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get crazy, let's put let's put Chubb

695
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: and Woody back there. Yeah, let's do that.

696
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: Davis goes out wide, all right, and you still have

697
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: to put a guy on him because you have to.

698
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Account for him.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna use up at B and now if

700
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Speaker 1: they could just practice a little slight of hand.

701
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Speaker 2: Hey, we got something here to prove my point.

702
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: Though.

703
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: How did the Titans score that day? They had They

704
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: had a fake punt where we didn't cover the outside

705
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: guy and Dane Krukshank took one, oh yeah, caught it

706
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: and took down. Then they got into wild Henry and

707
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 2: drove one drive, and then I think they had a

708
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: field goal, another field goal, and I think it'd be

709
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Speaker 2: a seventeen fourteen. I think it was like twenty seventeen

710
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: or seventeen fourteen, because we're driving for a towing field goal.

711
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: So Gabbert didn't really do anything in the game, but

712
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: he just kept the train on the tracks and they

713
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: found a way. And that's essentially when your backup quarterbacks playing.

714
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: To me, I don't care what the style points look like.

715
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't care if you win twelve nine. I don't

716
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: care if you win twelve eleven. I don't care if

717
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: you win forty forty seven. Just put some points up

718
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 2: on the board. And especially when you got a defense

719
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Speaker 2: like this. Now, if your defense was a complete sieve,

720
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: then I'd be like, all right, you gotta do whatever

721
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: you gotta do, trick plays and everything else. You gotta

722
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: play your game, and hopefully Davis will get in a

723
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Speaker 2: rhythm early and can find what he likes in the

724
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Speaker 2: passing game and they can run the ball against the

725
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: Jaguars is very difficult. Jaguars have one of the better

726
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: run defenses in the league. But you still got to

727
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: try and move the ball in the ground. And again,

728
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Speaker 2: I've said this about running the football many, many, many

729
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: many times, and I'll enforce it again here. It doesn't

730
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Speaker 2: mean just turning around and handing the ball to the

731
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Speaker 2: running back. You run the ball that way. There can

732
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Speaker 2: be other ways that you can quote unquote run the ball.

733
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Speaker 2: The fourth and two d Christian Kirk the other day

734
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Speaker 2: on a little out route. That's a run play. I mean,

735
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Speaker 2: I know it's a pass play, it's a run play.

736
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Speaker 2: It's just a little short, quick out. You go get

737
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Speaker 2: the yards you want. You basically blocked it up with

738
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Speaker 2: the little pick route you ran. You can run the

739
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Speaker 2: ball differently.

740
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Speaker 3: All right.

741
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Speaker 1: Another move that happened during the day, Quentin Williams going

742
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Speaker 1: from the Jets to Dallas and among the comp a

743
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Speaker 1: one wow as Williams as a cowboy. I don't know

744
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys think they're going because I don't know

745
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: if that fixes their defense, and maybe they're just doing

746
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Speaker 1: it to do it.

747
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: But again, these picks, they have value.

748
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Speaker 1: The Jets are cleaning up, stockpiling picks for the coming years.

749
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I know you give a Quinn Williams and

750
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner, but where are you going with them? Right?

751
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: Where you're going with them? So you might as well

752
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: get guys that your GM Drrenmujie and Aaron Glenn want

753
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: to have in the system. And now you have at

754
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: least three first rounders that that you're getting over the

755
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: next couple of years in addition to your picks, and

756
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: you stink. So you might get the first the first

757
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: pick of the draft, so you'll probably get a shot

758
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Speaker 2: at a quarterback. One of those picks is going to

759
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Speaker 2: end up being a quarterback at some point. I would think.

760
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: Now you'd rather I think you would rather have the

761
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Speaker 2: number one overall pick in twenty twenty seven to twenty

762
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Speaker 2: twenty six.

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Speaker 1: But you're not gonna plan for that, but you can't

764
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Speaker 1: plan for that because Aaron glam will not be around. No, No,

765
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Speaker 1: that's exactly right, because he has he ain't gonna be

766
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Speaker 1: the one.

767
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Speaker 2: Making that pick, right. So at that point, the Jet

768
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: kind of like the Colts. It's it's baffling to me.

769
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: Now the Colts have somewhere to go. The Cowboys lost

770
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: last night or three to five and one. Yeah, where

771
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: are they going?

772
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

773
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: Where they go anywhere. It's almost as if Jerry had

774
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: to make this move so he can say, hey, we

775
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: gave up Micah to go get quinnn Williams. Look at

776
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: us now, But I don't know what that does at all.

777
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: Don't get it. Well, we'll see.

778
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Speaker 1: It's the greatest reality show ever the NFL. And coming up,

779
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Speaker 1: Brian Cushing was on the pregame show with Sean and

780
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Speaker 1: Seth and that was an outstanding conversation. Let's hear some

781
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: of that, among other things here on Texans All Access.

782
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: Final segment here on tonight's show. And if you miss

783
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Speaker 1: some of our conversation on the trade deadline moves around

784
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Speaker 1: the NFL, catch the podcast right after the show is

785
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: over on the Odyssey app and later on on Spotify

786
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Speaker 1: or wherever else you get your podcasts now. We got

787
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Speaker 1: a healthy dose of Brian Cushing last week at the

788
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Speaker 1: Houston Texans team Shop. But I wanted to go here

789
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Speaker 1: because this is great content. Brian on the pregame show

790
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Speaker 1: with Sean Pendergast and Seth Payne right on the radio

791
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Speaker 1: stage with the fans roaring in approval of having the

792
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Speaker 1: all time leading tackler in franchise history on stage.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen in.

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Speaker 6: We've heard from a lot of former Texas and Dimiico

795
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 6: this week.

796
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Speaker 7: I just Janis McNair and the McNair family, and they're

797
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 7: important to bringing football back here to Houston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's everything, right, I mean, obviously I didn't grow

799
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: up here, but just getting the background once I was

800
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: drafted here and found out about how important football is

801
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: to this city, you know, and then once you're able

802
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: to bring professional football back to Houston, obviously, the McNair's

803
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: were the critical, huge part behind that, had a ton

804
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: of passion behind bringing the sport back to Houston and

805
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: has just helped the community and the city so much

806
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: and forever grateful and thankful to time.

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Speaker 8: It's got to be fun for you for a couple

808
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 8: of reasons. One, you know, you played with Demiko, he

809
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 8: was kind of your mentor. But then to watch the

810
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 8: way this defense has played over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 8: this is a very a very Brian Cushing style of play.

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00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 6: Is that fair to say?

813
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Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah, absolutely. I mean they're aggressive, it's

814
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: fun to watch and run around, and you can tell

815
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: they played a lot of passion. I think it comes

816
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: directly from their head coach.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what we were talking earlier about when you came in,

818
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 8: you know Jamiko Ryan's is a veteran by that point.

819
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Speaker 8: What did he mean to you as a young player.

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00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. I touched about upon this a little bit the

821
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: other day. And I came in and obviously I was

822
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: a high draft pick and Tamiko played kind of a

823
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: similar position, and I didn't know what to really expect

824
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: about how he treated me. And I came in and

825
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: from day one it was like a big brother role

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Speaker 3: and there was no information you ever hit from me.

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Speaker 3: He was completely transparent and he wanted to share all

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Speaker 3: knowledge and experience he had with me to help me

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Speaker 3: be better and essentially help the team be better. And

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Speaker 3: that's just kind of the person leader he is. And

831
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Speaker 3: to ever know that someone would eventually be a head coach,

832
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Speaker 3: and I had to pick anyone I ever played with,

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Speaker 3: it would have been him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no doubt. Brian Kushing joining us here.

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Speaker 7: He's our Texans legend presented by Chevron, the Human Human

836
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 7: Energy Company. Let's go back to when you were drafted

837
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Speaker 7: by the Texans, still a pretty young franchise at the time.

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Speaker 7: Only I think you got here in two thousand and nine,

839
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 7: so heading into the eighth season and your guy who

840
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 7: from Jersey played in southern California. What did you know

841
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 7: about Houston and what did you think when you got

842
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 7: drafted to the Houston teachs?

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00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: Never never had been to Houston before. I've only been

844
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: in Texas probably twice. Before that, I was in a

845
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: layover in Dallas and I played in an All Star

846
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: Game in San Antonio, so that was really about it.

847
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: My dad had come down here a bunch of busines

848
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: this before. I really liked the city. I was excited

849
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: about it, but remember being drafted, come down in April

850
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 3: thinking that was hot, and they were this is nothing right.

851
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, we'll get used to it.

852
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, just from day one city just I mean

853
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: Houston just fell like home. And then the way that

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00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: the fans and the city just embraced me. And like

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00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: you said, it was a young franchise, right, We had

856
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: never been to playoffs, we never had a winning season before,

857
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: so there's a lot of figuring out along the way,

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00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: and you know, I was just I was I was

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00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: happy to be at that part of the organization to

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Speaker 3: help that identity.

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Speaker 8: Well you and you were there too when it was

862
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 8: still I mean, the defense was still struggling and it

863
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 8: was a couple of years before things.

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00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: Kind of kind of clicked.

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Speaker 8: What was that like in twenty eleven when all of

866
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 8: a sudden is that is that the first time it

867
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 8: felt like, oh okay, this is this is what it's

868
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 8: supposed to be Like.

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00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was week three, two or three.

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Speaker 3: We went down in New Orleans and they were rolling.

871
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: You know, they were obviously on fire. Drew Brees, everybody,

872
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 3: Sean Payton was there, and uh, you know, we were

873
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: kind of We eventually lost the game and it was

874
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: a close game. It was a primetime game, I think

875
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: it was a Sunday night game, and defensively we were

876
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: just on it, and it just felt like this is

877
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: what a good defense and this is what a good

878
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: team feels like. And even though we lost, I think

879
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 3: it was a turning point of really our mindset and

880
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: we just built from that point on.

881
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: That was what.

882
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, there was a game, Well, Jonathan Joseph picked Drew

883
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 8: Brees and you probably fooled Drew Brees. Yeah, like you

884
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 8: can see from Drew Brees afterwards, was kind of like

885
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 8: he just he's gotten fooled by however Jonathan Joseph had

886
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 8: made him. I remember watching on TV. Yeah, you think like, oh, oh,

887
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 8: this is good, this is different. We haven't seen this.

888
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 7: I remember it was week three because I remember Week four,

889
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 7: you guys came back here and you played Pittsburgh, and

890
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 7: I think that was the game where the fan base

891
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 7: felt like, Okay, you guys had like an eleven minute

892
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 7: drive to open the game on offense and you guys

893
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 7: smoked Ben Roethlisberger all day long.

894
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 6: And that was a super Bowl team the year before.

895
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they were, and we were. We were

896
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: hiped up for it. It was. It was a different

897
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: vibe in the locker room before the game and after

898
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: the game. I remember Ian Rappaport being in the locker

899
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: room after the game, and he was just kind of

900
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: shocked by how he played, and and kind of our

901
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: confidence afterwards in the locker room too. We felt like

902
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: we belonged. We felt like we belonged, but we were

903
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: hungry and we just loved playing. We love playing.

904
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 8: Are you still in retirement doing Brazilian jiu jitsu?

905
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you? Yeah?

906
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 6: I was.

907
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 8: I was wondering about when you first got into that.

908
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: I remember that you would.

909
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 8: I thought you said you had wrestled in high school

910
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 8: a little bit, a little bit, so you knew going

911
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 8: in in New Jersey, like at a good wrestling school. Yes,

912
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 8: so you knew going in that, Okay, some guy that

913
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 8: I would like that I'm seventy pounds heavier than me,

914
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 8: is gonna probably kick my butt. It wasn't a surprise

915
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 8: to you.

916
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't a surprise, but it's still hurt my feelings

917
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: when it happened. So, you know, I kind of went

918
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: and open minded. But it was one of those deals.

919
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: It's a very humbling sport, and when that would happen,

920
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: I'd say, Okay, that sucks, but teach me how you

921
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: did that.

922
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

923
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: Right, So it was one of those deals whereas it was.

924
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: It was a eye opening experience. I knew it, but

925
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: you know, once it still happens. It's still one of

926
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 3: those deals.

927
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 4: Have you competed at all?

928
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: I haven't. Yeah, I haven't. I haven't dedicate. I haven't

929
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: gone in one hundred percent enough where if I lost,

930
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: I can say, all right, I trained all that I could.

931
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: I'd be kicking myself if I wouldn't. Now I'm like

932
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: masters too with my age, so I don't know how

933
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: that would work, but maybe down the line.

934
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, wait, until you get old enough, do you really

935
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 8: feel like you can just exactly.

936
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 7: Ryan Kushing joining us out here, you use our Texans

937
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 7: legend this week? Do you ever go back and watch

938
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 7: any of your your highlights or video you out there

939
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 7: and have sort of an out of body experience watching

940
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 7: like who was that? In particular? I think everybody remembers

941
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 7: you headbutting, Yeah guy, when you had no helmet?

942
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: All right.

943
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 7: Do you ever go back and look at that and go, oh, yeah,

944
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 7: that looks perfectly normal or you like, what the hell

945
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 7: was I thinking?

946
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? I didn't really think it was normal. Wow, it

947
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: was happening. So I mean, now, now you know a

948
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: couple of years removed Yeah, it's definitely one of those

949
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: deals where you know, you knew you were younger and

950
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 3: full of passion and adrenaline at the moment. But yeah,

951
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: I'll go back and watching stuff, you know now coaching

952
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: youth football. Try to show some things here and not

953
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: not even particularly myself, but just from kind of that era, right,

954
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: I think linebacker plays a little bit different now when

955
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: it comes to a physicality standpoint and run fits.

956
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 6: You were violent, dude.

957
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 7: I mean you were, and I say that in a

958
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 7: complimentary way. Go back and show those highlights of you

959
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 7: a twenty nine, ten eleven back then I'm like, man,

960
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 7: there are not a lot of guys that play the

961
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 7: position that fiercely these.

962
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, it's different, it's different, right, I mean the

963
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: game has gone faster, it's more spread, but there are

964
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: the teams that still implement the fullback and you need

965
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: those guys, you know, that want to run the ball

966
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: down your throat. You need a counter for that. Yeah,

967
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: So you know that's still out there, and I think

968
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: if you could do the best of both worlds and

969
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: still have that mindset, you can fit into any era

970
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: of football.

971
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I'll talk to you after our segment about

972
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 8: all these duo teams are running because they're like basically, Sean,

973
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 8: here's the thing. These linebackers, they're tiny little fellas. Now

974
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 8: they're basically like a bunch of safeties up there playing linebacker.

975
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 8: An offense is saying, oh, okay, we're just gonna bully them.

976
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 8: And that's what I want to Brian Cushing, you know,

977
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 8: I want somebody that can actually stand up to that. Yes,

978
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 8: your son is playing football and you're coaching your son.

979
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 8: And it thought to me, so I was wondering about, man,

980
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 8: what's it like being Brian Cushing's son playing football in Texas?

981
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 8: And then I remember, No, Clay Matthews, your friend, yep,

982
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 8: grew up with a grandfather, a father, and an.

983
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 6: Uncle that played in the NFL.

984
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 8: Is that to Clay give you any advice about like

985
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 8: some of the challenges you might be just you know,

986
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 8: people knowing.

987
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: Who he is and yeah, you know, he touched upon

988
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: it ever since I knew him, from the first day,

989
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: you know. And it's just a level of expectations and

990
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: sometimes just preaching and them like you are your own person.

991
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: You at the end of the day have to do

992
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: this on your own. And the passion has to be

993
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: within you. So you know, I could teach, I can

994
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: coach and everything, but at the same time, we're not codependent.

995
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah right, he is his own person. All my kids

996
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: there are their own kids and trying to and I

997
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 3: have to coach them all differently too. Write the personalities

998
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: and mindset and then and the learning capabilities are all

999
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: in different different ways, so I have to be aware

1000
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: of that as well. But yeah, at the end of

1001
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 3: the day, like I know, there's a lot more expectations

1002
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: on them than when I was, you know, ten and

1003
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: eleven years old.

1004
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 7: Viral video I mean actually yeah, Like there's a viral

1005
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 7: video of your son that's popped up just piecing other

1006
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 7: kids out there, you know, like what like how like

1007
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 7: how does that work? Like how do you take like

1008
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 7: does he does? Does your son know that he would?

1009
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 7: There's video of him out there going oh man, I

1010
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 7: can't wait.

1011
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 6: Are there anil bags right now? No?

1012
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: No, you know, and I try to I don't want

1013
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: to say limit, but just kind of that exposure, I

1014
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: gradually kind of introduce it, right, and it's something that,

1015
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: like I said, I never had to deal with. I mean,

1016
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: my first highlight video was probably my junior of high school,

1017
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: and whoever had Braveles dot com was saw it and

1018
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: nobody else, so it wasn't as abundant and it wasn't

1019
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: out there as much. So it is just a completely

1020
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: new error where I'm learning along the way as well. Also.

1021
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: But you know, as far as social media and all

1022
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: this stuff, I don't let them have any of that.

1023
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: You know, as Nick same you say all time, all

1024
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: it is rat poison, right, and you start eating enough

1025
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: of that, you're gonna believe it and the next thing

1026
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: you know, you're not working as hard. So really just

1027
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: trying to do it in the best manner as possible.

1028
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: And at the same time, I'm still learning along the

1029
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 3: way as to be a parent and a coach.

1030
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 8: The one guy on this team that Sean and I

1031
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 8: were talking about that I feel like, I don't know

1032
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 8: if you've gotten to know him yet, but I feel

1033
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 8: like you guys would vibe well as Kamari last. Yeah,

1034
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 8: because because you were you were, you loved being known

1035
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 8: as a psycho, and he likes being know what did

1036
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 8: somebody call him.

1037
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 6: The other day? JJ called him a car carrying psychopath.

1038
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and he was all about it. I feel

1039
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 8: like he's I feel like you two could have some

1040
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 8: good coverages.

1041
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, I can tell by the way he plays,

1042
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: you know, even I and some bad plays the camera,

1043
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: Zuma is fac and he's got this kind of evil

1044
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: smile and it's awesome. Yeah, you know, it's kind of

1045
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: like that, that joker personality. And I remember my mom

1046
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: called me after one time, she said, you your defense

1047
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: call Accordnea called you a holy terror, Like is that

1048
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: a good thing? And I was like, I think that's

1049
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: pretty cool. Yeah, I like I buy with that, and

1050
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: so yeah, you know, guys, like I said, if you

1051
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: have that mentality no matter what era you're playing, and

1052
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: you're passionate enough about it, you can figure it out,

1053
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: you could play.

1054
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 7: Then Yeah, Brian Couching, before we get you out of here,

1055
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 7: I think most Texan fans know. But you and JJ

1056
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 7: are brothers in law. You're married to two sisters who

1057
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 7: both played soccer. You guys professional football players. I feel

1058
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 7: like in a few years, y'all's family reunions are going

1059
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 7: to be like the craziest Thundertone physical adventures.

1060
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 6: Ever, how is it being brothers in law with.

1061
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: Your former It's great, It's great, you know, and now

1062
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: he's moved back to town too, so it's it's super

1063
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: close to right around the corner from us, so you know,

1064
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: just sharing our experiences together. And I'm a little bit

1065
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: ahead of him in the process around My kids are

1066
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: a little bit older, so you know, he's learned from it,

1067
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 3: and and I do have a younger one that's close

1068
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: to his youngest or second now oldest, so you know,

1069
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 3: we're growing up as a family together. It's pretty cool.

1070
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 7: That's great man, Brian Cushing, Today's Texans legend, everybody, defensive

1071
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 7: rookie of the Year, former Pro bowler here with the

1072
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 7: Houston Texans.

1073
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 6: Cush Man, it's great to catch.

1074
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: Up with you. Great. Thank you guys.

1075
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Brian Crushing.

1076
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: Everybody, thank you guys.

1077
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: All right, there's the conversation Brian Cushing on the pregame

1078
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: show on Sunday with Sean and Seth. Now coming up

1079
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: Texans matchup with Johnny. You want to hear how he

1080
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: previews the Jags game and goes over some of the

1081
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: things that went well in the Broncos game with the

1082
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: number one defense in the league owned by your Houston

1083
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: Texans and all of our trade deadline talk is up

1084
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: on this show in podcast form in just a few

1085
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: moments on the Odyssey app so check it out there.

1086
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: Have a great night everyone, Go Texans.