WEBVTT - Dermatologist Dr. Howard Murad 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.200 Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:16.560 I'm your host, Bobby Brown. I'm really excited to talk 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.840 to my next guest, Dr Howard mira Ad, a name 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.920 that most of us have known forever as these amazing 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:29.480 dermatological skincare products that are in all the department stores. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.400 You've seen him forever. I don't really know that much 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.200 about him, and when doing my research reading about him, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.320 he has such an interesting story. How he was born 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.919 in Baghdad, you know, put himself through medical school, had 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.600 so many jobs in between, and honestly, he was the 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:51.440 first person that figured out the correlation between beauty and wellness, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:56.560 and his skincare approach always depended on that. He is 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.800 quite something and I'm looking forward to understand why he 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.440 looks so good at eighty one years old and what 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.200 he does and here about his company. So here's my 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:12.800 conversation with Dr Howard Murad. So, Dr Murad, I have 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:17.840 to tell you, reading your biography, reading everything that you know, 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.839 my amazing producer gave me, I wish there was a book. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.440 Is there a book of your life story? No, that 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.480 really isn't. Maybe that should be, but yeah, you know 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.319 that's written several books, um, but not specifically about my 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.160 life story, a lot of it on my personal website 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.840 D R. Howard your ad dot com. But we'll we'll 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.040 start at the beginning, because your name has been in 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:46.199 my radar on my radar for decades, and I don't 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.760 really know that much about you and reading about you. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.520 You've had some fascinating life so a lot of the 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.320 listeners you know, are new to to who you are. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.800 So could you start at the beginning? Where were you? 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.880 I was born in Baghdad. That that was a country 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:08.680 that never nobody ever heard of until about twenty years ago. Um. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.520 And as a child, we were fortunate to be able 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.760 to migrate out of the country, um and come to 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.560 the United States. I came here when I was seven 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.040 years old. Yeah. You were New Yorker correct, Yeah. I 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.320 grew up in New York. I went to college in 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.040 New York and then I went to medical school in 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:32.160 California and sort of I never impact Uh, And you 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.760 went to medical school, but you also went to pharmaceutical school. 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.440 Well it's a story, you know. I tell people make 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.200 your mark on the campus of life and letter direct you. Um. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.760 I always kind of was interested in science as a younger, 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:51.400 younger person, I wanted to be an engineer. But then 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:55.000 somehow or other I didn't get calculus very well. And 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.840 my older brother was a pharmacistant, said you like science, 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.000 why don't you go into pharmacy school, And so I did. 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.120 While I was in my farmacy school, I thought, well, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.280 I'd like to go to medical school. Probably won't get in, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:12.280 but I'll apply anyway. And I tell people, might make 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.120 your mark on the cabinets of life and light to 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.480 direct you, because a lot of times you don't know 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.680 where you're gonna go. You let it, you let it 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.040 take you. So it took me to go to medical school, 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.200 and even there I always wanted to be on the surgeon. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.880 Uncle Sam had different plans for me. Sent me to 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.160 Vietnam to the Italian surgeon and I got a lot 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.880 of care of surgery. And when I came back for 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.600 my second year of duty, I was attached to the 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.480 a dermatology clinic. And in medical school that was the 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.720 most boring class ever. I mean I fell asleep most 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:51.080 of the time, but now in a different light, it 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.000 was very interesting to me. And when I finished my 0:03:55.160 --> 0:04:00.160 military I got into in residency and you see l 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.360 A and to be a hospital. So that changed my 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:08.200 life entirely. And then your first practice was in Los Angeles. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.760 It wasn't Los Angeles. It's a little community by the 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:16.280 airport called Westchester. This was a very Chinese office. It 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.039 used to be a psychiatrist office. When I started, there 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.800 was no sign on the door. There was a tiny 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:29.560 waiting room, a reception area, and an office. And so 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.120 I started my first week in practice, I had one 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:37.320 patients who just happened to walk by. It was a lunchtime. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.719 I happened to be there. I was going around trying 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.800 to meet people, and it turned out it was the 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:47.760 germantological problem. So I got my first patient without a 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:54.680 sign on the door, without without office, but and that 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:59.719 is and it grew from there, and that was Yes. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:04.359 I finished my weaponity in training and started my practice 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.960 in nineteen seventy two. But you were one of the 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.960 early doctors that realized that it's lifestyle and food and 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.359 what you put in your mouth is an effective of 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.279 the skin. And that's that was like in the eighties. 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:21.720 Could you talk about that well, I under concept called 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:27.480 inclusive health. Inclusive means everything is connected, so over time 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:32.839 it was trying to understand, um that skincare, which now 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.080 I call it. I always say skincare is health care. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.280 If you really understood it, that you if you're really 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.400 taking care of your skin, it means that you're taking 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.400 care of the rest of your body. Everything is connected. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:48.080 And as a dermatologist, I was recognizing the patients that 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.640 I was seeing or coming in and the ones who 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.400 did have a better lifestyle. We rate well, exercise and 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.400 so on, seems to have better skin. Um. So it 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.160 was a con sept of looking at that, but that 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.840 led me into trying to understand what was going on 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:11.479 and um. The other thing that really changed my life 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.480 is understanding hydration. Now people think of hydration and drinking 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.960 a glasses of water again. But if I were to 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.000 have anybody come, I use is your skin dryer today 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.560 than it was ten years ago? I think they would 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:29.039 all say absolutely, and is dryer? So it's a fact 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.839 of life that we go through stages of life going 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.200 in full hydration to less and less hydration. And how 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.640 do we get better hydrated? Well, maintaining the barrier function 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.279 of your skin in the first line of defense, So 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:45.760 making sure you're using sunscreens with antioxidants and inflammatories. And 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.679 by the way, way back in two I started putting 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.640 antioxidants in my products regardless of what they were treated, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.840 treating for um and so the idea of that barrier function. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.800 Think about it, when you get a sunburned skin gets red, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.880 but you also feel tired of arctic so you you 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:09.240 begin to feel that what happened is damage penetrated through 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.440 your skin into the blood stream and affected your brain 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.240 and liver and every organ in your body. Also, the 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.320 reverses food because when your heart's not healthy, your skin 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.280 doesn't look so good, so you're less you're more pallid. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.320 So that connection was very important. So the other problem 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.480 was and this was the drinking a glasses of water 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:34.520 a day and maybe that's how much we need, but unfortunately, 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.560 when you drink that much water, it just goes right 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.239 through you. So I had the concept of eating your water, 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.080 eating water rich foods. It's very important if you look 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:48.800 at diet, basically, water rich foods are healthy for you. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.760 Basically fruits and vegetables that even means are you know 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.600 you can absorb up to sight and water. Um, you know, 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.440 fish and chicken without the skin uh is predominantly water 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:09.280 maybe anyway, so generally help the foods are rich in water. Um. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.040 The other is the exercise. And people used to say, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.640 well I exercise, what I'm sweating, I'm drying. Yeah, you're sweating, 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.800 but you're building muscle, and muscle is seven percent water. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:24.000 And finally, stress reducing stress is going to make a 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:28.400 big difference in your life because when you do stress, 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.160 and and and how do we do that? Dr murre at, 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.880 how do we do that? My answer to that is 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.120 magic only happens when you create your own um and 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.760 go back a little bit. But that way back in 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.599 two pounds and three accord the term cultural stress to 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.559 stress the modern living. You know, if you think about it, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.280 we tend to have a very sedentary lifestyle, especially now 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:55.439 with COVID nineteen. But it was happening, you know gradually 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.480 anyway things get delivered to us. You can get food 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.960 delivered faster than if you went to the grocery store. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.319 Your entertainment gets delivered to you, and you did to 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:09.439 watch you just sitting. That leads to a sedentary lifestyle, Isolation, loneliness, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.880 all kinds of bad things, and it's constantly pervasive. So 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.040 I have to understand you have that that damaging you. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.320 And once you understand that, you develop ways to think 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:40.560 how I can get improvement with that. And then why 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.120 did you want to start your own skincare brand? Well, 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:47.080 it was a journey. I was a pharmacist, as you 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:51.040 know before, and a lot of times I would recommend 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.960 compounded prescriptions. I write the compound prescriptions and getting filled 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.679 and people you know, like my compounding and they were 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.280 coming and they would so I just wanted the compound 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.040 of prescription. They didn't necessarily want to see me. And 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.720 then I got involved in the Alphahi droxy acids way 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.520 back in mid eighties. I would say I started cheating 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:16.720 patients with the Alphi droxy passings and rammatically sults actually 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.200 always sent thousand different patients with different levels of alfhi 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.600 drops the answers mostly like colic, and I saw the 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.200 results and I said, at the same time, in my 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:32.960 own practice, I had a inesteficition and in electrologies, so 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.640 it's kind of a pre you know many spats. Before 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.480 there wasn't any spat. I said, what the heck, you know, 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.080 maybe we should make it available. I opened up my 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.880 own SPAT, which is twenty miles away from my practice. 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:50.559 But people came to that, and so I started giving 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.480 them the ALPHI drox, the acids and decided, well, let 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.760 me see what I could sell it to other salons 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:01.160 in other places. And so I started my bus knowing 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.880 nothing about business. So did you started by yourself? Did 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.600 you find a lab, a partner? I mean, how do you? 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.200 How did you do that? I wish I could give 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:15.400 you the you know, a roadmap, because I didn't have one. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.280 I basically I met a person who said, why don't 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:25.240 you started off a spot of your own? And so 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.760 that's a good idea, and I said, okay, I'll open one. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.720 I didn't know how to do it, so I asked 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.800 him to help me. And you helped me with, you know, 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.360 finding somebody in a space to rent and things like that. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.200 And then I decided why should I only have it 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.560 in my spot? Could sell it all over. I really 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:50.440 dedicated myself. Basically spent virtually maybe a hundred and fifty 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.320 two hundred and seventy five days a year away from 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.760 my home going to trade shows and things like that 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.000 to trying to do open a business. I have a saying, 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:06.360 don't let failures spoil your success because there were failures. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.880 As you know, if you have their failures, and a 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.440 lot of people stopped, they say, I can't do it anymore. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.000 My best way to describe that is I decided, well, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.400 besides just selling it to Cilantro, I don't and I 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:23.720 sell it know an informercial conformercials were a big deal 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.280 at the time, but there were you know, there were 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:32.080 only certain channels. So again I found somebody who suggested 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.040 that they could do a good job. And I wanted 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.360 to break the mold because at that time it was 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.480 just people sitting in a chair and talking to each other. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.559 I wanted a story. There were two sisters wanted to 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.679 care of herself be other. We didn't. I created some products, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:53.840 did in commercials and I sold zero. I had borrowed 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:58.840 money to do that, and it just didn't more um, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.400 But then I still like the idea. So at a 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.559 couple of years later, what I did is like again 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.720 I borrowed some more money. I had to repay my money, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:13.240 but I've invested my whole again in this one, and 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.960 this one's huge and brought your ad. I think the 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.760 reason people know you're at is more from the infomercials 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.480 than actually you know, some of the retail and other 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:27.240 places because it was a real success. Now you have 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:32.520 how many products you have over skin care products? Yeah, 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:36.040 you know, it's it's basically there are a lot of 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.960 numbers and sometimes too much is too much? Probably better 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.880 to have fewer, excuse and many students. But you know, 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.800 every time you come up with an idea, so this 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.400 is great, but the other one is also great. By 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.719 trying to limit it is a good idea, I think, 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:57.200 otherwise becomes a little bit confusing. Basically, the general concept 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:01.679 behind it I called the hydrade shouldn't products. These are 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.559 people products for everybody, whether your young holds or in between, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.520 and they're encouraging better hydration again, which is the foundation 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.920 of use than I was telling you before how important 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:16.840 hydration is um. And then there's the product that contained 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:21.360 retinal and then there are products that contain the alpha 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.840 hydroxy acids. Invited the what do each of those things do? 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.800 Could you tell everyone what vitamin C does? What alpha hydroxy? Okay, 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.720 so the first one is for everybody, the hydration one, 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.600 because they have antioxygens and inflammatories and encourages the better 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.760 hydration of your skin again, the ones that you can 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.920 do to really back the lines the appearance of your 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.800 skin is hydrated. When it's fully hydrated, lines and wrinkles 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:51.000 and things begin to disappear. Um. Then the second stage 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.800 is maybe somebody in there, say, twenties to the forties, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.760 out of the sun too much, getting recles, diptation find 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:05.120 and that's why idmen ce alphydroxy acids. And then beyond 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:09.400 that is people who want something more dramatic. And I 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:14.240 believe retinal at this point is being ingredient. There are 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:18.000 many other ingredient to many other things that go beyond it, 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:23.040 but the basic important nvenient to that, although again you 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.520 could use any of those at any as because retinal 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.400 is a it's used for acne, it can be used 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.600 for wrinkles, it can be used for a firming, and 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.240 could be used for you know, at any age, and 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:39.000 so can be alphydroxy acid. But generally that's what the 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.640 categories are. And your business is so huge right now, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.800 are you do still own it or no? I told 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.840 I told the whole brand to Unilever in two pound 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.840 and are you still involved. I'm involved in the sense 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:59.800 that you know, it's my legacy I'm involved in my 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.480 pe'll see my face and my things and things like that, 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.160 because that's what lives on. I'm there to support the 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.000 team and do the best that they can and and 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.240 help them in any way I can um. My journey 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:18.320 so far now had been to make it lightly different 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.280 life for myself but still be involved in the brand. 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.520 I hope i'd be in different involves soill I die 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.080 because it is what people know before and it is 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.120 important to me that it is successful. I have no 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:35.440 financial interest, and you know, I don't get a percentagement. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.960 Was it emotionally hard for you to to let go? 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.800 It was very difficult because it was a family unit. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:46.160 One of my daughters, my nephew, a lot of family 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.160 members were involved. But I could see the writing on 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.000 the walls. I could see that there was a point 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.360 where we were getting to that we there was so 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:58.960 much competition from all over and the ability to really 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.000 maintaining and grow was going to be more and more challenging. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.959 And I didn't feel that I could bring that forward. 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.800 I didn't believe that I could make that maybe happen. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.960 More so, what's spring enjoy these days? What are you 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:19.280 doing for fun? Over the years I started painting, so 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.280 I still paint. You know, I'm not sure exactly what 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:26.320 I do, but the days go by. Know, I I live, 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.640 I I spend a little more time with my family 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.439 and you know, things like that that I do and 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:36.160 I and again, I'm still involved a little bit with 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.760 the company because you know, I helped them with their 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:43.520 promotions available. They asked me any questions about what what's 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.680 my opinion on x Y and z UM. I don't 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.440 tell them what to do. I give them my opinion 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.919 and sub to them to take it or not. And 0:17:51.359 --> 0:18:06.200 sometimes they take it, sometimes they don't. Since this podcast 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.479 is called Beyond the Beauty, if you could just answer 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.880 what beauty means to you, Like, what's your definition of beauty? 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:18.200 Beauty it's health and wellness. Very hard to be beautiful 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.280 if you don't have wellness and health in your life. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.879 You know, people ask me what's the one thing I 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.600 could do for my skin that would that would really 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.080 make a difference, And my answer is always smile, because 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.480 when you smile, the skins lifted up and you look 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:37.000 more attractive, more becoming when you smiled. Then when you're angry, 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.760 you know, there's so many other ways that I can 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:44.040 look at you and because everybody is unique in their 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:47.840 own way. One thing I tell my patients to do, 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:51.439 and I know it's a podcast, but everybody has paper 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:55.960 and pencil, paper in and I asked them to, without 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:00.439 thinking and only ten seconds, do a scribbled step. You 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.600 know how you just sometimes you will write on the paper, 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.920 you kind of screw around ten seconds, don't think about 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:07.520 what you're doing. And if you give it to a 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.960 hundred people, everyone's going to have a different scribble scrapp 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.360 because everybody, you know, they're not going to do the same, 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.879 And that to me proves everybody is a unique individual. 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.800 Allow the unique you to blossom because there's nobody else 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.080 exactly like you, nobody else who has exactly your talents, 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.320 and nobody else who can do what you do. So 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.360 allow the unique you to blossom. And where you put 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.440 the scribble scrabble in the space that you spent it, 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:37.199 to me is where you think your potential is. But 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.720 the white space is your true potential. So the idea 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.719 is all of us. I think we're so good, we 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.120 can do X, Y and B. It was kind of limited, 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.520 but if you look at my journey, I never knew 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.520 where it was going to end up, and every step 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.000 of the way it was a little bit different, but 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.320 I allowed just to happen. And don't let failure spoil 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:04.080 your sticks us and expose your accomplishments to your harshest 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.520 critic without fear of rejection. And who is your harshest 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:12.200 critic to you? So those kinds of things. That's kind 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.760 of all kinds of philosophy ideas that I like to 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.720 share with people. That's wonderful. Well, now I have a 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.359 speed round, so I've got five or six questions, and 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:27.200 let's see how we do. What's your daily skincare routine. Uh, 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.840 you know it's different every day, but it's always a 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:36.399 treatment and sunscreen of moisturizers at night. What's your supplement 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:40.920 health routine like these days because you have very beautiful skin. Well, 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.800 I do take a lot of supplements, the basic ingredients 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.360 and let mean I take the basic one a day 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.800 vitamin with vitamin B and things like that in it. 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:54.199 I do believe in glucosamine. You know, one of the 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:57.280 things that happens to us is over time our collagen 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.680 bundles begins to decrease. We see that unless more wrinkled 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:05.159 and joint pains and things like that. And colleges is 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.760 built by h through cosmine amano act if I evence 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.639 trades minerals, so I take it through cosmine supplement that 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:18.040 has that combination and basic one a day. And how 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.240 about your exercise do you have an exercise routine? I 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.440 have a trainer four days a week, and when he's 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.399 with me, I wish to do well. When I'm alone, 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.960 I don't do so well. You know, I do the 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.159 same thing with him. I could do it myself because 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.080 the same thing, but when he's got there, I don't 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.080 do it. I hate to say that and admit it, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.600 but that's a truth. Truth is good. What about a 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.199 favorite cocktail? Do you have one? It's not that I 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.840 don't drink. I've never had a problem with alcohol at all. 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.560 There were times when I would drink of you know, 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:53.280 to his three sconsins in the evening, but right now, 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:57.440 im you know, I might have a glass of champagne 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.040 or something to celebrate. My favorite drink is a green 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.439 drink that my wife makes that is a lot of 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:09.960 vegetables and mostly greens, and that's a mix them all 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.360 up and question them up and we drink them every day, 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:17.800 so I get my vegetables and salad and whatever all 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.399 at one time as a drink, so make sure I 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.960 get that. And how about for the final question, what 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.680 is the one thing you can't live without? My wife? 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:32.520 Best answer? How many years you married? Dr Murad? Well 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:36.960 we've been together twenty years and been married. Ah, that's 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.560 so nice. Well, I have thoroughly enjoyed talking to you 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:44.919 and just really like absorbing your wisdom. You are a 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.959 very special man, and I hope more people of the 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:51.879 different generations learn about not just your products, but you. 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.160 And I want that book, your life story, your advice. 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.600 All right, I'll have to do that. Thank you so much, 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.200 Thank you so much. From this has been a real 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:05.520 pleasure to meet you and to talk to you. 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