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Speaker 1: Very pleased to bring you all today in interview with

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Speaker 1: independent presidential candidate the one and only RFKJ and you're

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Speaker 1: welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Great to see us, Sarth, Thanks for having Thank you course, sir.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're probably the foremost independent candidate that we've seen

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Speaker 2: in this country for quite a long time. And one

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Speaker 2: of the things that we really want to do in

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Speaker 2: this interview is to take you seriously. So one of

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Speaker 2: the things that you've talked about is gaining baland access.

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Speaker 2: So can you guarantee that you're going to be on

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Speaker 2: the ballot in all fifty states?

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Speaker 3: We just saw an Axios report.

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Speaker 2: You've got about fifteen million dollars appropriate You're going to

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Speaker 2: be on the ballot in eight states. You're targeting but

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Speaker 2: can you guarantee you're going to be on all fifty

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Speaker 2: of these ballots?

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Speaker 4: Oh, we'll be on the ballot in all the fifty

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Speaker 4: states in the district.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And what's the plan for that, because as I

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Speaker 2: understand it, you don't you're not on the ballot yet

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Speaker 2: in a single state. I mean, you successfully were able

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Speaker 2: to challenge the law in Utah, But do you have

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Speaker 2: the ground.

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Speaker 4: Operations every single wow fully submitted and approved in Utah? Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's our first date. But we have Yeah, we have

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Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand volunteers and we have you know,

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Speaker 4: surinary Yeah, we have many more than any other campaign,

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Speaker 4: and we're very confident that we can get it. You know,

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Speaker 4: most of the states is pretty it's pretty basic. There's

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Speaker 4: a handful of states that make it very very difficult.

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Speaker 4: New York is one, California is another, Texas another, And

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Speaker 4: you know, you have to pay attention to the rules

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Speaker 4: and we'll probably have to do so litigation and they're

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Speaker 4: going to litigate against us. But we're shooting forgetting I

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Speaker 4: think sixty percent cushion, So we're going to get what

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Speaker 4: we need plus sixty percent more so they knock out

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Speaker 4: some signatures. We should have a cushion enough to.

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Speaker 2: Be You made an interesting comment I think it was

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Speaker 2: on the theo Von podcast. You said that when you

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Speaker 2: go independent that you were going to take more votes

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Speaker 2: away from Trump. So now you've been doing this now

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Speaker 2: for a couple of months. What are your internal polling

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Speaker 2: show in terms of the support who you're drawing. Is

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Speaker 2: it Biden, is it Trump? Is it non voters?

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Speaker 3: What do you see?

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Speaker 4: We're drawing pretty evenly and we're you know that we're

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Speaker 4: getting a lot from people from non voters. The reason

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Speaker 4: what you know, the Politico did a piece on us

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Speaker 4: that showed where they did it really meticulous breakdown of

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Speaker 4: our donor base, and they said in that a shocking

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Speaker 4: number of our donors where people who never done to

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Speaker 4: a political campaign before. And that's what we're finding. But

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Speaker 4: you know, we're when I just anecdotally, the people coming

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Speaker 4: think the early polling showed me pulling more from Trump,

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Speaker 4: but I don't you know, you would the big poles

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Speaker 4: are probably you know, the big poles like Quinnipiac and

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Speaker 4: than our internal polls. So you know, you know, as

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty But do you think you're going

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Speaker 2: to be on the debate stage with Biden and Trump

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Speaker 2: if you had a plan with the Commission on present?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Do you think Biden is going to debate?

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's a great question for you. You know him,

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Speaker 2: you know him better than we know.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know. I haven't seen him in years,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what they're going to do. But the

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Speaker 4: rules are they have three debates scheduled, and I have

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Speaker 4: least that much confidence that they'll let me on. But

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Speaker 4: on the rule is the rule that they've adopted is

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Speaker 4: if you have fifteen percent of the vote, you're on,

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Speaker 4: And I'm way above that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's actually a quick thing on that. So you

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Speaker 2: You didn't want to get into Biden's mental status. Is

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Speaker 2: fitness for president. You're independent now you're not running in

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Speaker 2: the Democratic primary. Just made that comment about him debating.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to go into that? I mean I

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Speaker 2: was asking you, yeah, oh, youth, Okay.

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's an issue that he is now

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Speaker 4: are you are you able to debate? Are you? I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know this. It takes a tremendous amount of energy

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Speaker 4: to that, particularly at this point in history. So I

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Speaker 4: think it's fair, you know, for people to ask that,

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Speaker 4: not in the mean spirited way, right. You know, we've

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Speaker 4: seen I think yesterday he did a press conference in

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Speaker 4: which the answers appeared to have been written out for

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Speaker 4: him in advance. And that's you know, I think the

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Speaker 4: president ought to be evident debate and ought to be

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Speaker 4: able to have unscripted conversations with people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One of the things we've been trying to look at

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Speaker 2: is gaming out how things are going to go. So

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Speaker 2: if you're going to be pulling your meek getting twenty

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Speaker 2: seven to thirty percent, possibly of the vote, and we

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Speaker 2: are in a scenario we've got multiple different candidates, there's

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Speaker 2: no electoral college victory.

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Speaker 3: Have you thought about what that's going to look like?

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Speaker 2: What is your endgame if there is no electoral college

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Speaker 2: victory for the House of Representatives, and how would the

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Speaker 2: election play out? I think a lot of people have

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Speaker 2: been asking that question with respect to your.

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Speaker 4: Run if that happens, If there's a contingent elect the

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Speaker 4: if you look in an electro map, there's nine more

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Speaker 4: would assume that Trump would run. But if you look

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Speaker 4: at the individual congressional delegations, neither candidate can get twenty

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Speaker 4: are never going to vote for Trump because their careers

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Speaker 4: so they would have to find a compromise candidate. And

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Speaker 4: in that case, I'm probably in good shape because my

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Speaker 4: mean is that I'm the second choice or people are

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Speaker 4: But this is all speculation, and you know, nobody and

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Speaker 4: spin and all of that, which I don't like to

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Speaker 2: You have to think about it. Yeah, we have to

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Speaker 2: think about so I guess it could continue down on

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Speaker 2: this road. Let's say we're in a scenario you are

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Speaker 3: Electoral College votes.

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Speaker 2: Would you release your electors to Biden or to Trump

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Speaker 2: after the first round or would you consist on being

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Speaker 2: to compromise candidate.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I have no idea. I haven't had. It's yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would, I mean I would not even like I

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Speaker 4: intend to win. I think if I'm I'm not a

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Speaker 4: betting person. My wife that's a lot. But if I

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, my last question kind of for this section is

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Speaker 2: we watched a lot of people conservative media figures out

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Speaker 2: They built you up when you were winning the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 2: I watched them kind of turn a little bit on you.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty much immediately whenever.

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Speaker 3: You decided to run, definitely turned on. He did watch

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we might have covered it here. I can't read it.

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Speaker 4: What is a lot of drama proceeding? Tell us about it? Well,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to go into it, but it was

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Speaker 4: Roger L's who was the founder of Fox News, and

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Speaker 4: and so I had a very pleasant conversation. He said,

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Speaker 4: going to treat you fairly this time. I was like okay,

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Speaker 4: and it was wonderful. And then as soon as Trump

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Speaker 4: just sat there and took it for you know, twenty minutes.

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Speaker 4: So you know, it's just part of the partament part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It was kind of amazing to watch out quickly though, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: literally a little bit on a dime.

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Speaker 1: Some people even were openly.

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Speaker 3: Like, yes, actually we have covered here before.

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Speaker 2: There was a conservative influencer he's got over a million follows, said, look,

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Speaker 2: I built up RFK when he was a threat to Biden.

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Speaker 2: He's like, but now we have to highlight all the

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Speaker 2: things that he believes. But you have no problem with that.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Let's turn out a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I'm grateful for them letting me on when they did.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: Let's turn to a little bit of policy and specifically

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Speaker 1: of the topic of Israel. Obviously very much in the

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Speaker 1: news right now. So President Biden's administration. They have said

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Speaker 1: Israel and their conduct in this war. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any red lines for Israel?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know the red lines are they? You know,

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Speaker 4: you don't deliver. You do everything you can, which I

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Speaker 4: think Israel is doing right now to avoid civilian casually.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's collateral damage in every war, and they're

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Speaker 4: fighting an implacable enemy. I mean, I don't think there's

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Speaker 4: Israel was being bombed by Ama. Amas took over God.

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Speaker 4: Israel walked out of God. There's no occupation of gods though. Well,

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Speaker 4: there's a black hat because because God, because Hamas declared

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Speaker 4: put up a fence so that it's there. You know,

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Speaker 4: that's like, that's like the guy who kills his father,

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Speaker 4: to say that they're black hated, they're black. Yeah, they're black.

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Speaker 4: And it's not just Israel, it's blocking is Egypt. Everybody

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Speaker 4: has a problem with a moss you know. In fact,

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Speaker 4: after the seventy three war, after the sixty seven war,

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Speaker 4: Egypt didn't want to take it because i mean, God, sorry,

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Speaker 4: his finish. Israel Amas took over in two thousand and six, right,

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Speaker 4: and they immediately started shelling Israel. So they send they

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Speaker 4: sent on average two thousand rockets a year on civilian populations.

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Speaker 4: And they're their charter and their public statements a day

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Speaker 4: as a ruse. It says that in their charter they

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Speaker 4: to annihilate Israel and kill every Jew, not just in

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Speaker 4: say we're, you know, we're going to retake Texas, which

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Speaker 4: they have a legitimate claim to. We're going to retake it.

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Speaker 4: How long would it take us to go in there.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't take us very long. We would go in

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Speaker 4: the people who are sending these tells, and Israel instead

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Speaker 4: of doing that, Israel did something extraordinary, which is it

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Speaker 4: just to live with missiles. There's there's thousands, tens of

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Speaker 4: thousands of Israelis that on that part of Israel that

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Speaker 1: No one, no one here is excusing the actions of

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Speaker 1: hum Us. But I think you would agree that one

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Speaker 1: atrocity does not justify another. So how can you hold on?

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Speaker 1: How can you say though, how can you say I

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Speaker 1: haven't finished my question? How can you say that Israel

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Speaker 1: the civilian death toll, even by Israeli estimates, and this

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Speaker 1: you could put on it is sixty one percent innocent civilians,

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Speaker 1: thousands of children, thousands of women. That's worse than the

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Speaker 1: combination of every twentieth century conflict combined. So how can

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Speaker 1: you look at that and combine with the complete siege

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Speaker 4: First of all, what you said, it's not trum we killed.

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Speaker 4: We killed the seven hundred and fifty thousand civilians in Iraq.

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Speaker 3: She's percentage one percent.

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Speaker 4: The percentage of the average kill right in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan,

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Speaker 4: most soul in those battles in modern warfare is about

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Speaker 4: eight or nine to one civilians to military.

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Speaker 1: And you think that's fine. Eighty percent civilian death.

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Speaker 4: Your pin right. I don't think a single civilian is fine.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a single But when we went into Germany

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Speaker 1: And actually there's an analysis that just came out that

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Speaker 1: also say, after World War Two, that's why we put

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Speaker 1: civilian life. So when you say, let me give you

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Speaker 1: a specific report that you can respond to the Washington Post,

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Speaker 1: we can put this up on the screen, guys. This

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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Post just reported that Israel dropped us supplied

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Speaker 1: white phosphorus in an attack in Lebanon in a way

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Speaker 1: a civilian population. Are these now you might say, look,

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Speaker 1: with maybe the reports in dispute, maybe we need to

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Speaker 1: go and investigate. But is this or any other of

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Speaker 1: Israeli conduct in this war. Is this something that you

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Speaker 4: If Israel dropped white fosphs on civilian populations illegally, then

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Speaker 4: they should be prosecuted for war crimes. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 4: don't think there's strong evidence that they've done that, and

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Speaker 4: Israel absolutely denies that there is a legal There are

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Speaker 4: which is as a concealant, and Israel says that's what's doing.

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Speaker 4: Here's what Israel has done. Israel has made calls people

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Speaker 4: before they bomb. Nobody else in the world does that.

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Speaker 4: It's made twenty thousand live calls. So somebody, an Arab

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Speaker 4: going to happen. You need to move out in your

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Speaker 4: In warning the civilians, they're also warning Hamas and so

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Speaker 4: What is Israel supposed to do? It can't leave us

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Speaker 1: But Bobby, I don't think we should accept that from

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Speaker 4: There's a violat first of all, I don't think that's happening.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's happening. Let me explain, can if

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't see any proof of that right now,

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Speaker 1: But the government announced they were doing a complete siege

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're talking about the you know the yeah, the siege.

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Speaker 4: Now we did for ten years. We did collective punishment

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Speaker 1: To justify that either here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but why are we just going after the Jews?

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Speaker 4: Why why is it only on Israel?

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Speaker 1: Let me, tax dollars are going to fund what's going

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Speaker 4: This is something I have friends. I have friends and guys. Okay,

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Speaker 4: people have. It's excruciating. What's watching what's happened. But why

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Speaker 1: Why aren't we blaming the bombs they have with the dollars.

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Speaker 4: They have to get it. I'm as they have to

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Speaker 4: but they did not build bomb shelters for their people.

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Speaker 4: And they you know, Israel has old people moved to

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Speaker 1: Palicinyan lives, they got to do what they got to do.

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Speaker 3: It's the cost of.

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Speaker 1: War, What are you going to do? There's also a

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Speaker 1: what kind of politics do you think you're going to

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Speaker 4: Oh, how would you get rid of Hamas well? If

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not running for president the United States number one,

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Speaker 1: If you're actually going to do this, you do a

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Speaker 1: And we see how this works in the past, because

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Speaker 4: One one relationship with the more brutal.

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Speaker 1: Response from what is really the more support for radicalism

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Speaker 1: that there is. You can Philip Buster, I'm not philibustering.

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Speaker 1: You asked me a question. I'm trying to answer it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're a feller bustering. You're not answering

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Speaker 4: the question. You're saying, I drive a wedge. Well, of

442
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Speaker 4: course Israel is trying to drive a.

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Speaker 1: Wedge by offering some other path that's not it is

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Speaker 1: that vibot to two state solution or some sort of

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Speaker 1: a justin Welston.

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Speaker 4: Peace and the Palestinians not only have rejected that, but

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Speaker 4: Amas it's a whole purpose. Was the reason that OZ

448
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Speaker 4: was able to get all this popular support and take

449
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Speaker 4: over was because of its its opposition to any negotiation.

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Speaker 1: Hamas just came out and said that they support Israel's

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Speaker 1: PLO and recognize Israel's right to exist. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: you have the Ash the UK saying we will just

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Speaker 1: absolutely to two state solutions.

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Speaker 4: I just cannot, like you tell that it's just not true.

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Speaker 4: Isma was on TV Al Jazeira yesterday saying We're going

456
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Speaker 4: to do this again and again and again. We will

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Speaker 4: never negotiate, which we.

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Speaker 1: Covered and which is disgusting. But there's no about the

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Speaker 1: hold on what about the facts that what about the

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Speaker 1: fact that Yahoo and his government have said absolutely no,

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Speaker 1: they built up hamas to try to thwart any sort

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Speaker 1: of Palestinian statehood.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not defending and I don't coast you know what,

464
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Speaker 4: netaniaha and look good though Israel is a divided country.

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Speaker 4: In eighty or twenty percent of the population around the

466
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Speaker 4: street demonstrating against Natania Ilo. What I'm saying is the

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Speaker 4: Israeli US is a criminal enterprise. Sure see the Palestinian

468
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Speaker 4: and you you talk about solutions for the Palaestinian people.

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Speaker 4: The Palatinian people are arguably the most pampered people by

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Speaker 4: international aid organizations the history of this war.

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Speaker 1: Seventy percent of people in God they had, you know,

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Speaker 1: not enough food to eat?

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Speaker 4: Right? And why is that? Why are you blame me?

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Speaker 1: Well, in part it's Moss and in part it's the

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Speaker 1: fact that Israel imposed a blockade and talked about putting

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Speaker 1: them on a diet.

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Speaker 4: If you're if your neighbor. First of all, Israel has

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Speaker 4: no obligation. The Israel built three thousand hot houses and

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Speaker 4: gave them for greenhouses. I would have made Gods a

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Speaker 4: completely food self sufficient, gave it to them as a gift,

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Speaker 4: offered to rebuild the port of Gods that to make

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Speaker 4: get to Singapore of the West. AMAS and no, we

483
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Speaker 4: don't want you money, We don't want you ideas. And

484
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Speaker 4: what do they do with the international aid agencies have given.

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Speaker 4: AMAS have given Gaza more than ten times the per

486
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Speaker 4: capita what we gave to rebuild all of Europe after

487
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Speaker 4: the Marshall Plan. They've gotten eight three hundred dollars per

488
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Speaker 4: capita every person in Gaza. We rebuilt Europe with six

489
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Speaker 4: hundred and twenty one dollars per capita in Europe and

490
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Speaker 4: we rebuilt it. What do they do with that money

491
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Speaker 4: instead of using it to make this? You know, Agaza

492
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Speaker 4: is this beautiful country, waite sand beaches. It should be

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Speaker 4: a paradise. Amasaid, we don't want that. They take virtually

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Speaker 4: all that money and they steal it. So the top

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Speaker 4: five guys, the top five leaders of AMAS are billionaires.

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Speaker 4: Ismael Heine has five billion dollars according to Forbes. Wait,

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Speaker 4: let me just finish it, because you made us. We

498
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Speaker 4: know you are making a statement that is just wrong.

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Speaker 4: It's not Israel's fault. Is poverty strict and gazis is.

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Speaker 4: It should be one of the wealthy estates on the on.

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Speaker 1: The men control over their own territory.

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Speaker 4: Of course, if you go to Warwick, if you.

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Speaker 1: Get everything that comes in and goes out.

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Speaker 4: If you go to war No Crystal Bristol. Why are

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Speaker 4: you blaming? Why do you insist on blaming Israel and

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Speaker 4: then blaming of us.

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Speaker 1: I do blame has But you know what we are.

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Speaker 1: Tax dollars do not go to Hamas, they go to

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Speaker 1: the net New Hall and and you know what bombs

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Speaker 1: bombed dram right.

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Speaker 4: You know what most of our tax got dollars have

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Speaker 4: gone for for the iron done, which is a way

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Speaker 4: of not blame, of not invading God. Our country and

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Speaker 4: the Israel for sixteen years have expended this huge amount

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Speaker 4: of money to try not to go into God. Well,

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Speaker 4: God that sent two thousand rockets a year suicide bombers.

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Speaker 1: And of course let me Israel come in and quote

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Speaker 1: unquote mode the lawn.

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Speaker 4: They've gone in five times, and every time they've signed

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Speaker 4: a piece agreement with Hamasa, every time they violated that

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Speaker 4: piece agreement. Let me let me tell you Israel. Also,

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Speaker 4: hold on, if Mexico attacked us and we built a fence,

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Speaker 4: would you blame us for cage in Mexico? Well, you're

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't know what it is, but everything

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Speaker 4: in your mind is telling you to blame Israel instead

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Speaker 4: of blaming him.

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Speaker 1: Bobby, hold on, hold on, let me just let me,

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Speaker 1: let me because I want to get to the end game.

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Speaker 1: Then Soccer has some questions for you on free speech

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Speaker 1: that I want to make sure we get to because

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Speaker 1: I think this is important as well. What who has

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Speaker 1: said and what he's tasked his senior advisory.

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Speaker 4: But he's let me answer your question.

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Speaker 1: Haven't you even asked the question?

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Speaker 4: Let me finish answer your last question?

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Speaker 1: Can we put this element up on the screen now?

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Speaker 1: Who has said that he wants to quote unquote fin

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Speaker 1: out the population of Gaza to a minimum. There is

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Speaker 1: simultaneously a proposal that is being shopped here in DC

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Speaker 1: with some bipartisan support, that would use r A dollars

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Speaker 1: to countries in the region to pressure them to accept

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Speaker 1: Palestinian refugees out of Gaza to enable Netanyahu's plan of

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Speaker 1: quote unquote finding out the population. I'm sure you know

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Speaker 1: he has been very cagy about what he wants the

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Speaker 1: future of Gaza to look like. What do you want

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Speaker 1: the future of Gaza to look like? And is there

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Speaker 1: any circumstance where you would support pushing neighboring countries to

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Speaker 1: resettle Palestinians.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't, As I said, I don't go sign

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Speaker 4: anything for net or for the good.

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Speaker 1: But he's so, I know, but he's a deal with

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Speaker 1: How would you deal with it? What would be your

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Speaker 1: plan for the future of Gaza?

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Speaker 4: If I'm right now, you know I'm all years is

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Speaker 4: how do you get rid of Hamas? I think you

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Speaker 4: have to get rid of amas Ama is a criminal

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Speaker 4: organization that is making built the lead. The five leaders

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Speaker 4: of it are all billionaires. By the way, yas Or

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Speaker 4: Rafat died a billionaire, a mood A bas A billionaire.

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Speaker 4: His two kids who run West Bank are have seven

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million dollars. It is a criminal enterprise

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Speaker 4: where they are stealing everything from the people of Gaza

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Speaker 4: and then they raise them from kindergarten to kill Jews.

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Speaker 4: You know, I saw the forty three minute film of

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Speaker 4: the goat pros and the body camps and the things

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Speaker 4: that I saw on there, you know, the rape, the

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Speaker 4: burning people alive. No matter what happened to you for

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Speaker 4: the rest of your life, no matter how abused you were,

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Speaker 4: no matter how you could never act that way. These

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Speaker 4: kids are being raised as serial killers.

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Speaker 1: They're being raised inmate targets.

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Speaker 2: Well, the terror, yes, I'm talking about the.

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Speaker 4: No, that's not what I'm saying, Crystal. What I'm saying

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Speaker 4: is amas Is is oppressing it's own people. It's stealing

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Speaker 4: from and it's turning them into it's taking away their

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Speaker 4: childhood instead of you know, just distributing this huge amount

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Speaker 4: of money that they've gotten, building a wonderful culture and

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Speaker 4: society and economic prosperity for them. Instead, it has one purpose,

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Speaker 4: which is to annihilate Jews and kids. Their schools are

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Speaker 4: named after Jew killers, their streets are named after Jew killers.

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Speaker 4: You know they they are paid bounties to.

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Speaker 1: Kill jewelry Palsenians in Gaza support a two state solution.

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Speaker 4: Well, the polls I've seen right now, I'm full for

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Speaker 4: two state solutions. Show me how it happens. The last

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Speaker 4: time that Arafat was offered that which was in you know,

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Speaker 4: by Clinton and Ahood Iraq in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 4: he was offered to everything that the Palestinians had asked for,

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Speaker 4: everything and except for three percent of the West Bank,

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Speaker 4: and they said, we'll give you three percent of it.

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Speaker 4: Israel knows the suburbs around me, major Israeli cities that

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Speaker 4: are settled. Oh and an Arafat walked out of that

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Speaker 4: negotiation without a counteroffer. Any later explained to Prince Ben

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Speaker 4: if I made a deal, anybody who makes a deal

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Speaker 4: with the Israelis, they will be killed by our own people.

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Speaker 4: Just you know, they've been offered to two states.

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Speaker 3: About your endgame? So I just want to get a

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Speaker 3: definitive answer on that.

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Speaker 2: She asked you about your endgame, which is, let's say

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Speaker 2: we Israel and we agreed there's no justification of hamas

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Speaker 2: criminal enterprise. It's gone. What does the two states look like?

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Speaker 2: Two states solutions look like? Under the Kennedy administration, the

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Speaker 2: Blide administration is pushing the palest and authority says no,

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Speaker 2: So is that something that you envisioned if.

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Speaker 4: I first of all, that rather the United States cannot

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Speaker 4: decree that you know there's going to be a two

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Speaker 4: state solution. What we can do is we can pressure Israel.

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Speaker 4: But more importantly, we can use our influence. I think

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Speaker 4: what we need to be doing is to is to

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Speaker 4: encouraging the Solomon Accords, encouraging peace in the region, encouraging

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Speaker 4: ultimately piece is going to come from prosperity.

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Speaker 1: Would you condition AID to try to secure a two

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Speaker 1: state solution or at least to end the.

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Speaker 4: I would encourage it, But as I said, more importantly,

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Speaker 4: I would encourage the other nations. I would be talking

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Speaker 4: on the phone right now with President z with President Putin,

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Speaker 4: with all the leaders of the Arab world and trying

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Speaker 4: to get some kind of collaboration because I think ultimately

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Speaker 4: that's what's going to happen. But until that, but you know,

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Speaker 4: one of the problems, one of the dilemmas for Israel

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Speaker 4: right now is you can say to Israel, you know,

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Speaker 4: let's turn this over to the UN. The UN has

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Speaker 4: never the blue helmets always left as soon as the

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Speaker 4: shooting starts, and the UN will not even condemn Amas.

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Speaker 4: So how you know, and then the other Arab states

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Speaker 4: have solidified of all well, you know, expresssolidarity in supportive Hamas.

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Speaker 4: So how is Israel to you know, expecting out to

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Speaker 4: turn its fate it's destiny, its duty to protect its

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Speaker 4: own people from danger. Over to people who say, we

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Speaker 4: don't think there's anything wrong with what Amas did, so.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on to free speech. Just something we want

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Speaker 3: to get into here.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure you saw the clip presidence of MIT,

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Speaker 2: University of Pennsylvania and Harvard University.

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Speaker 3: There's been a campaign billionaire Bill Ackman.

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Speaker 2: I believe he actually is a supporter of yours to

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Speaker 2: try and fire those university presidents. So do you think

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Speaker 2: that they should be fired for their answers in saying

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Speaker 2: that calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute

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Speaker 2: harassment and in a call in and of itself as

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Speaker 2: a supporter of free speech, I'm curious.

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Speaker 4: Me ask you something. Sure, if they had called for

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Speaker 4: or death to all black people.

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Speaker 3: We all know what the answer would be.

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Speaker 4: I agree with the answer.

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Speaker 3: They would say immediately absolutely, Okay, Yeah, what's the difference? Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not necessarily sure though that in him

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Speaker 3: call for any I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, I think, by the way I understand what the

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Speaker 4: difficulty is here is you want free speeches, so we

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Speaker 4: want to maximize free speech. At one point, are there

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Speaker 4: different rules on the college campuses? You know that there's

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Speaker 4: all these rules now that I don't really understand or

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Speaker 4: ascribe to about keep keeping people safe from bad information.

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Speaker 4: But when something becomes when it's in, when it appears

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Speaker 4: to be inciting violence, which I think you could read

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Speaker 4: you know, deathhol a, black people or genocidologies as incitement

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Speaker 4: of violence, I think then that's uh, yeah, that that

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Speaker 4: should be decided.

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Speaker 2: I don't swear that with a free speech absolute because

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Speaker 2: there is there is no like Hitler was right exception

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Speaker 2: to the first man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're right, I think. I mean the line

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Speaker 4: that we have right now, if he looks at the

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court rulings, is that you can't you can't incite violence.

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Speaker 4: Oh if words that you use are if a jury found, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was inciting violence, that person was inciting violence, then

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Speaker 4: it's no longer protected by the.

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Speaker 3: First Actually a bit worried about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people have been saying that you're encouraging like

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Speaker 2: mass death for a lot of their comments on vaccine.

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Speaker 3: They certainly would have used that provision against you.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to try that in court, Okay, all right, Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to try it in front of a jury.

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Speaker 2: So next question here, do you think this is for

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Speaker 2: per congressional resolution? Do you think that being anti Zionist

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Speaker 2: is anti Semitic?

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Speaker 4: Uh? How would you remember?

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Speaker 2: How so there was there was a measure of that

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Speaker 2: before Congress. If you were in Congress, how would you

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Speaker 2: vote on that? Oh?

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Speaker 4: What do you what do you define as Zionism? Well,

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Speaker 4: the right to for Israel to exist?

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Speaker 2: No, Well, I think Zionism's political ideology predates the state

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Speaker 2: of Isa.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, but it was about having the Jews have.

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Speaker 3: Their own, have a homeland.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And so are you saying that Jews should.

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Speaker 3: Not have their own I'm not saying anything.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, listen. There's forty one countries in the

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Speaker 4: world that have an official religion. Israel is not among them.

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Speaker 4: There is no official religion in Israel. There's freedom of religion.

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Speaker 4: There's twenty of Arab states that have official religions, yes,

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Speaker 4: and in fact rules that require Shuri law, which includes

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Speaker 4: bigoted provisions against Jews. There are many like the West

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Speaker 4: Bank and Kaza and Jordan apply the death penalty to

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Speaker 4: anybody who sells land to a Jew. So those countries

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Speaker 4: are genuinely apartheid states or single religion states. Israel's aren't

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Speaker 4: one of them. So what you're saying, you know, the

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Speaker 4: Vatican is a Catholic state. England is an Anglican state.

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Speaker 4: My aunt Kit Kennedy had to change religion in order

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Speaker 4: to marry a member of the Aristotra.

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Speaker 3: I remember reading that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, there are many states around the world.

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Speaker 4: I think there's four Buddhist states, There's two Hindu states.

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Speaker 4: There are twenty seven Muslim states. There are many many

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Speaker 4: countries that have official religions, but the Israel doesn't. But

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Speaker 4: Israel is officially a Jewish state. It's a homeland for Jews.

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Speaker 4: It's original charter reflects the idealism of Zionism. Oh, if

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Speaker 4: you're saying Jews alone should not have their own state,

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Speaker 4: that is you know, if that's what any Zionism is,

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Speaker 4: then I would say, that's like George Wallace. It's like

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Speaker 4: to finish, It's like George Wallace saying I'm a segregationist,

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Speaker 4: but I'm not a racists.

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Speaker 1: Surely, Bobby, you're aware that there is a long tradition

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Speaker 1: of Jews who are opposed to Zionism, who have a

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Speaker 1: critique of Zionism. Not to all about there are into

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Speaker 1: your Zionists. There are jew science, so shouldn't there be

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Speaker 1: shouldn't there be an there there are? What I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: should there be an ability to critique a political ideology

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Speaker 1: without being you.

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Speaker 4: Know, you should be Well, that's why the definition of

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Speaker 4: what Zionism is. If you're saying that Zionism, what Zionism

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Speaker 4: is the belief that Jews can have their own state,

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Speaker 4: and you're.

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Speaker 1: Against that criticizing you know, Saudi Arabia which has in

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Speaker 1: Islamic Xuria based government, does that make you as lamophobic?

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Speaker 2: Or the Republic of Pakistan Kashmir? Yeah, does that make

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Speaker 2: it lamh Kushmir? If we're going to say, well.

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Speaker 4: It depends, I suppose if you're if you're saying that

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Speaker 4: it's okay for all those other countries. I have a

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Speaker 4: religious government, but but Israel Loan should not have it.

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Speaker 4: And I think, yeah, there's something there's something so bigoted

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Speaker 4: about that.

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Speaker 2: Governor DeSantis had banned the organization Students for Justice and

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Speaker 2: Palace on a Camp.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: There have been calls Republican legislators as well to use

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Speaker 2: a federal government to investigate these types of student groups.

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Speaker 3: Is that something that you would do under Kennedy administration.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that group is, whether they advocating

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Speaker 4: violence or whatever, but I don't think I think if

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Speaker 4: you know somebody's advocating violence against Jews, that they should

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Speaker 4: be banned and they should be investigated. If if it's

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Speaker 4: a if it's just a pro Palestine group, no, of

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Speaker 4: course not. I have freedom of speech.

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Speaker 3: What about the anti BDS laws.

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Speaker 2: There are a number of states that have ANTIBDS provisions

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Speaker 2: that basically say that if you're a state employee and

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Speaker 2: you advocate for BDS, that that's a fireable efense for

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Speaker 2: boycott divestent sanction, which is often It was originally used

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Speaker 2: against apartheid South Africa, has been adopted i think by

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Speaker 2: the social justice left, largely in relation to Israel as

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Speaker 2: a result of the Settlement policy. Whether we agree or not,

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Speaker 2: this is a state laws that are on the books

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Speaker 2: in multiple across the United States. I think goes violate

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Speaker 2: the law say that if you embrace or advocate for beating. So,

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Speaker 2: for example, Abby Martin, you might be familiar with her.

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Speaker 2: She's a prominent political commentator. I guess she's done a

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Speaker 2: lot of work on Gaza as well. She successfully challenged

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Speaker 2: one of these laws in the state of Georgia because

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Speaker 2: she's an advocate of BDS and she wanted to make

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Speaker 2: her well the lasses you can't you cannot be paid

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Speaker 2: by the state, and you cannot be go ahead, Crystal.

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Speaker 1: So in her instance, in her instance, she was invited

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Speaker 1: to speak to a public university in Georgia, and as

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Speaker 1: a condition of her speaking gig, she had to sign

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Speaker 1: a pledge saying that she would not participate in the boycott,

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Speaker 1: divestment and sanctioned movement. She successfully challenged that in court

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Speaker 1: on First Amendment grounds, And in Texas they have a laws.

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Speaker 1: A lot of states have these laws that say, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to be an employee of the state,

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Speaker 1: you have to sign this pledge that you won't boycott

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Speaker 1: the state of Israel se alone among our nature. So

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Speaker 1: you're able to boycott the US or your own government,

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Speaker 1: but not the Israeli government.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, my feeling about that is that if

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Speaker 4: you're if you're doing it on your own time and

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Speaker 4: not representing the state, it's a free speech issue, you know, listen,

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Speaker 4: I was, you know, support the right of the Nazis

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Speaker 4: to march and scope Gillan. Yeah, I think we also think,

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Speaker 4: you know, we're you know that the more that the

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Speaker 4: remedy for bad speech, very hate speech, for unpleasant speech

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Speaker 4: is not censorship, it's more speech shop.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you more political questions.

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Speaker 2: So something I know you tweeted about this we highlighted

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Speaker 2: here on our show.

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Speaker 3: I actually think you tweeted out the clip of us.

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Speaker 2: Talking about it about you leading amongst voters under the

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Speaker 2: age of forty five, specifically young voters, probably one of

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Speaker 2: the most popular candidates amongst that group. At the same time,

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Speaker 2: we've seen a significant optic I think in pro Palestinian sentiment,

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Speaker 2: you could say that amongst people who were young, you

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Speaker 2: can co sign that for a variety of reasons. Could

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Speaker 2: be TikTok, could be anything. So I'm curious politically, I

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Speaker 2: can see emotionally you're very you're very animated about the

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Speaker 2: Israel issue. How do you plan to win those people

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Speaker 2: over when? And from what we can see at least

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Speaker 2: right now on the polling, there's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: distance in the way that they think about the conflict

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Speaker 2: and the way that you're talking about the conflict.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean people are going to vote for who

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Speaker 4: they want to vote for it, and some people are

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Speaker 4: going to be single issue voters and I'll lose some

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Speaker 4: of those. I mean, you know, I can't Siger. I

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Speaker 4: can't do anything except be true to my own heart.

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Speaker 4: And you know, do what I if somebody, if somebody

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Speaker 4: has a argument with me and convinces me that I'm

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Speaker 4: wrong about something, and I'm going to change my mind

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Speaker 4: if you show me facts that you know that demonstrate

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Speaker 4: I'm wrong. I'm going to listen to everybody. Yes, I

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Speaker 4: just listen to Crystal Pilot on me right. You know

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Speaker 4: this is what we should be doing.

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Speaker 3: Well, we agree, this is your third round here. You

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Speaker 3: know you're getting into.

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Speaker 4: We should be have open, you know, spirited, congenial, respectful debate,

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Speaker 4: you know, and about this stuff. And if people don't

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Speaker 4: like where I end up on things, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you why I end up. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to show you that I've been thoughtful about it,

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Speaker 4: that I'm not you know, I'm not acting in a

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Speaker 4: knee jerk way to take or a political way. I'm

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Speaker 4: not doing anything from ideology. I'm free of that. I

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Speaker 4: may still end up in a different place than you,

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Speaker 4: and in that case, you of your joys about whether

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Speaker 4: you want the whole package, you know, which is somebody

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Speaker 4: who's who I'm going to fight harder for this generation

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Speaker 4: the people who between twenty and thirty five there that's

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Speaker 4: I'm narrowly focused on making sure they can get homes,

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Speaker 4: that they can, you know, have a decent economy, that

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Speaker 4: the American dream is real for them. And I'm going

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Speaker 4: to work every day in my presidency on that. And

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Speaker 4: I may fall on different parts, you know, place there's

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Speaker 4: people who support the Ukraine War, which I'm as you know,

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Speaker 4: adamantly yes you have, but they also support me. There's

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Speaker 4: people who you know who support you know, I have

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Speaker 4: to support from people who are vaccinated unvaccinated. I have

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Speaker 4: support from people who are pro life and pro choice,

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Speaker 4: and you know. But if you have just one issue

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Speaker 4: and I'm wrong on it, I get it and I

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Speaker 4: respect you for that, and that's how it was supposed to.

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Speaker 3: Work, right.

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Speaker 1: I have one last wrap up free speech question for you,

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Speaker 1: and we'll move on to some other issues. But on

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Speaker 1: x formerly Twitter, Elon Musk decided to ban the word

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Speaker 1: decolonization and also the phrase from the river to the

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Speaker 1: sea in the whole flap about the university presidents. There

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Speaker 1: wasn't actually any example, at least not one offer of

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Speaker 1: people saying genocide the Jews. They were talking about a

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Speaker 1: chant from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

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Speaker 1: And they also brought up a call for globalizing the Intafada.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that those things are incitements to violence?

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Speaker 1: Do you support their banning on Twitter? Do you support

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Speaker 1: their banning on college campuses? You and just on those specifics, spent.

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Speaker 4: A lot of billions dollars and he's lost a lot

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Speaker 4: of sense. And I utterly respect him for what he's done,

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Speaker 4: for standing up for speech. But it's his platform he has,

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Speaker 4: you know, just like you don't. You don't have to

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Speaker 4: allow me on here or anybody else. It's up to you.

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Speaker 1: Is not a question of whether he can, it's a

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Speaker 1: question of whether it only become censorship.

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Speaker 4: It only becomes censorship when the government is ordering. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it only implicates the First Amendment when the government is

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Speaker 4: telling you to do that. Otherwise, if you own a

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Speaker 4: printing press, you can print who you want, and you

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Speaker 4: can deny who you want. You know, and he owns

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Speaker 4: the big printing press.

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Speaker 2: I got to stick with this, though, because I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you were at one point probably one of

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Speaker 2: the most censored men in America, and you often talked Instagram.

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Speaker 3: I remember your band from Instagram at certain.

871
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Speaker 2: Points on YouTube and tremendously difficult to even feature any

872
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Speaker 2: of your videos. It's even what I remember having to

873
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Speaker 2: do research. I had to go on Rumble or somewhere

874
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Speaker 2: else in order to listen to what you said. How

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Speaker 2: do you square that position? I mean, given the way

876
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Speaker 2: that you know during the COVID vaccine debate, the way

877
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: that your views were censored throughout all of this, how

878
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: do you square the idea that you know corporations can

879
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Speaker 2: be able to do whatever they want.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's two. There's there's a couple of issues. One

881
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: is if if the government isn't in the censorship, which

882
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 4: they were involved in my censorship. Biden administration was, and

883
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: then members of the Trump administration, although not directly the White House,

884
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 4: we're collaborating with the social media and media sites to

885
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 4: censor me. So that's first Amendment, that's a straight violation.

886
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 4: There There's another kind of censorship, which is corporate censorships,

887
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 4: so that you know, you probably get pharmaceut.

888
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Speaker 3: Altimtizing, well, we do not actually know.

889
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Speaker 4: Okay, well that's good, right, but CNN does, and you know,

890
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Speaker 4: ABC and NBC get it. Roger Hills told me that

891
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Speaker 4: for Fox the Evening News, it was seventy percent of

892
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Speaker 4: the revenues for evening News. And so they, the pharmaceutical

893
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Speaker 4: industry actually controls content on those platforms, and it is

894
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Speaker 4: telling you, you know, it is forcing those announcers edit

895
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Speaker 4: what they say and not tell the public things that

896
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Speaker 4: might affect their mercantile ambition. And they're commercial, you know, companies.

897
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Speaker 4: So that is a corporate censorship. And I would argue

898
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Speaker 4: that that's illegal when it happens on a public airwave,

899
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Speaker 4: because the networks do not own the airwaves. The networks

900
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Speaker 4: are licensed to use them, but they're owned by the

901
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Speaker 4: American public, and they have to use them for a

902
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Speaker 4: public purpose. If you have on your own printing pat

903
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 4: present your basement, or if you're the Sulzburger family and

904
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Speaker 4: you own The New York Times, or if you're Elon

905
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Speaker 4: Musk and you don't you know, and you're willing to say,

906
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not. I don't care what advertisers say,

907
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: and you have a right to have on your platform

908
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Speaker 4: who you want and who you don't. The thing I

909
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 4: complain complained about was was commercial censorship, where I was

910
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Speaker 4: being censored on the government owned airwaves because of pharmaceutical advertising.

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Speaker 4: And number two, government diplicated censorship.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're okay with if on Twitter or on Instagram,

913
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Speaker 1: the Zuckerberg or Musker, who for the billionaire that owns

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Speaker 1: the platform is wants to censor certain views.

915
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Speaker 3: They're entitled to their behest.

916
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Speaker 4: I think if the government's not involved, sadly, that is

917
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Speaker 4: that's the way the world works, all right, all right,

918
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Speaker 4: And you know I was there's a The alternative to

919
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Speaker 4: that is to declare Twitter or Instagram at public utility.

920
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Speaker 4: I don't think it would work because I think the

921
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Speaker 4: reason that those platforms work is because of the commercial incentives.

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Speaker 4: What about that because you constantly have to upgrade the

923
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Speaker 4: performance to compete with all the other people, and that's

924
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Speaker 4: why their success.

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Speaker 2: What about a standard if we say that all censorship

926
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Speaker 2: has to abide within the First Amendment at all social

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Speaker 2: media come.

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Speaker 3: You can operate however you want. It's just that in

929
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Speaker 3: terms of censorship removal of content.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's what I would do as president. Yeah, Okay,

931
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Speaker 4: the day and I'll do this the day that I

932
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Speaker 4: go in is I will issue an executive order saying

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Speaker 4: that no utterly paid official can collaborate with any media

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Speaker 4: or social media company in cessoring political speech.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Exscell, I wanted to ask you about your

936
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Speaker 1: position on abortion. You got to ask a question on

937
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Speaker 1: the on the trail. I think it was Ali Vitality

938
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Speaker 1: of NBC News if you would sign a fifteen week

939
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Speaker 1: abortion man you seem to indicate you did in the campaign,

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Speaker 1: said you misunderstood the question. So I just wanted to

941
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Speaker 1: clarify your stance. Is there any national restriction on abortion

942
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Speaker 1: that you would support as president of the United States

943
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Speaker 1: if that ended up on your death?

944
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Speaker 4: No, I you know, I think listen, I think every

945
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 4: abortion is a tragedy. I've spent I probably thought as

946
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Speaker 4: hard as anybody in this country for medical freedom and

947
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Speaker 4: for people to have autonomy over their own bodies. And

948
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Speaker 4: I understand also the you know that there's a countervailing interest,

949
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Speaker 4: the interest that you know, the unborn baby get a

950
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Speaker 4: cruise at some rate, or you know, in some people's views. Immediately, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I respect people who believe that and I don't think

952
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Speaker 4: anything as a satisfactory's illusion. But I think ultimately we

953
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Speaker 4: have to trust the moms. We have to trust women.

954
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Speaker 4: Oh and that, but you know, I will you know,

955
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not going to ride or you know,

956
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: or ridicule people who believe that life starts with that

957
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 4: inception and you know, have devoted their lives to protecting that,

958
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 4: and I think they should be heard. I have people

959
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: in my family and I grew up with that who

960
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: I was very close to, had that you know notion.

961
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Speaker 4: I understand it, and they we all can respect each other.

962
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: So let's go and put this next element up on

963
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Speaker 1: the screen. You mentioned, you know, medical freedom being something

964
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Speaker 1: that's always been very important to you, at least you know,

965
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Speaker 1: and for the past number of years, I'm sure you

966
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Speaker 1: saw probably this story which was in the news everywhere,

967
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Speaker 1: this mom of two who the Texas Supreme Court ruled

968
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Speaker 1: she could not seek an abortion even though her fetus

969
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Speaker 1: was diagnosed with you know condition that means that it

970
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: cannot live outside of the womb. It's causing serious health

971
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Speaker 1: problems for her. She had to leave the state in

972
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Speaker 1: order to seek the abortion for her health condition, and

973
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: so Obviously, there's already been a huge rollback in terms

974
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: of women's rights after the overturning of Roe versus Wade.

975
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: Is there anything you would do under Kenny administration to

976
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: try to restore those rights in the states where the

977
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Speaker 1: procedure has been all the banned.

978
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Speaker 4: I don't mean, what's President Biden doing nothing?

979
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: Nothing, That's why you're going to be different, that's the question. Well,

980
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, one idea is to try to eliminate the

981
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Speaker 1: filibuster in order to secure you know, enthrining Roe versus

982
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Speaker 1: Wade as the law of the land, which is something

983
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: that's been floated for a lot of years.

984
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Speaker 4: I would not end the filibuzzer. I think those kind

985
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: of procedure tampering with the Democrats, these long standing democratic

986
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: institutions in Congress, then yet get turned against you on

987
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 4: the next term.

988
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: Would you want to if you had a you know,

989
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: sixty vote majority in order.

990
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 4: To think.

991
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: So, you would support it at the federal level?

992
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: Exactly? I think women, you know, I think we have

993
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: to trust the moms.

994
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: I have a question on housing. I know this is

995
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: something that you reference to.

996
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: This is actually one of the areas that I've seen

997
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: you get a lot of attention on this plan.

998
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: I believe it is to give.

999
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 2: All homeowners or the first time home buyers a three

1000
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: percent mortgage.

1001
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: Could you lay that out?

1002
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: We see a tremendous amount of interests from our audience

1003
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: on housing about the ability to buy and just your

1004
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: views both on the housing market and your plan in

1005
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: order to make it more affordable.

1006
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: I mean, we're looking at a whole lot of different issues.

1007
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 4: I'm very focused on making sure this generation that you know,

1008
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 4: the twenties and thirty year olds can get into home.

1009
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: So you know, one of the one of the ways

1010
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: that my uncle did it and I actually was in

1011
00:53:54,680 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: an apartment building and in uh a couple of days ago.

1012
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: That's one of his buildings and it's a special class

1013
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: of mortgages that he created a three percent interest and

1014
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 4: funded with with Treasury bills that were sold at three percent,

1015
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Speaker 4: but with with tax reductions, so he was able to

1016
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Speaker 4: finance that with the market. And this this apartment building,

1017
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Speaker 4: as I think it had eighty three apartments in it

1018
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 4: that are being rented by the highest one is about

1019
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy dollars a month, and then even

1020
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: lower if you can't afford it. And it's you know,

1021
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 4: this is sixty years later. Oh, that's one of the issues.

1022
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,479
Speaker 4: I'm also you know, there's a number of other things

1023
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: we can do. There's one hundred billion dollars surplus that's

1024
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: supposed to be used for housing, uh in Fanny man

1025
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 4: Freddie Mac one hundred and ten billion, and I'm going

1026
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: to unleash that and create housing stock.

1027
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: I have.

1028
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: I have a panel of economic advice. There's a wide range,

1029
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 4: and they're all focused on this. Removing tax benefits to

1030
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 4: corporations that are using federal loans to buy houses, home

1031
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 4: equity loans and those kind of loans. And also UH

1032
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 4: supporting or creating legislation that will make it impossible or

1033
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 4: make it a penalize with tax treatment, the accumulation of

1034
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 4: single family homes by large investment houses and hedge funds.

1035
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Quickly, you got a VP shortlist.

1036
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 4: I wouldn't talk about it. I enjoy you.

1037
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: You're looking at what Sean fain of u a W

1038
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: I put him at the top of my list.

1039
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Speaker 3: I don't know, be interesting, I would comment.

1040
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: No comment is that? I mean, is that a serious

1041
00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 1: like someone your float?

1042
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: No?

1043
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: I just like.

1044
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: Him, But there are other people you like like that

1045
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: flavor Tana White. You know, he's bombastic, He's got the

1046
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: few attitude. Is that something you're looking for? Like, what

1047
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: do you know?

1048
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: I'm looking for somebody? Maybe it was a little bit

1049
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: more healing.

1050
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: Okay, now all right, okay, So I do have a

1051
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: question here. I wanted to wrap on.

1052
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Speaker 2: You talked to this got a lot of attention about

1053
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: flying on Epstein's plane twice. I know you clarified that

1054
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: that was a point in which you've since said you

1055
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: believe that he was trying to curry favor with your family.

1056
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: So do you I don't remember saying I saw it

1057
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Speaker 2: on your Twitter. So you followed up and said it's

1058
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Speaker 2: possible that he was tall.

1059
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Speaker 4: That on my Yeah, Oh yeah, I don't know. I mean,

1060
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Speaker 4: I can tell you exactly what my relationship was with

1061
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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Absain. I flew his my wife Mary Richardson, who

1062
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 4: his girlfriend. I didn't know there was. I thought it

1063
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Speaker 4: was his wife at the time, but gilln Maxwell, Yeah,

1064
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 4: and she got a ride. Glenn offered her a ride

1065
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Speaker 4: for our family to go to Palm Beach, where I

1066
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Speaker 4: wanted to visit my mother over Eastern Oh. I flew

1067
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Speaker 4: down with Mary and my two kids with the two

1068
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Speaker 4: oldest kids, Mary was pregnant with Connor at the time,

1069
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Speaker 4: and then another time that was in nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 4: So nobody knew about Jeffrey Epstein's nefarious activities. The first

1071
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 4: hint the public was.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and six, Yes, a first conviction.

1073
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, so nobody knew about it. He was just

1074
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Speaker 4: another you know, wealthy guy in New York. And then

1075
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Speaker 4: I flew again sometime maybe I know, you know, probably

1076
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Speaker 4: about nineteen ninety five or nineteen ninety six, I flew

1077
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Speaker 4: to to South Dakota again with all my kids and

1078
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Speaker 4: Mary to do a fossil hunting trip with them. Now,

1079
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Speaker 4: I probably ran into Epstein at fund raisers and stuff,

1080
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Speaker 4: but I didn't know him socially, you know, I didn't

1081
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Speaker 4: he was He was not my friend.

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Speaker 2: Okay, My question is about the well, I guess I

1083
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: don't know if your staff put it out, but one

1084
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Speaker 2: of the things you'd surmise was about him currying favor.

1085
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Speaker 2: And there's been quite a few questions about whether he

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Speaker 2: was a foreign intelligence asset, either for Israel for the

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Speaker 2: United States. Is that something like what do you think

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 4: I have no idea yeah, I just I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've read that he was, you know, an

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Speaker 4: agent from a sad Yeah, I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 4: I really haven't followed him that much. My kids, two

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Speaker 4: of my kids or one of my kids follows him

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Speaker 4: and said to me, you know, it's that it's highly

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Speaker 4: likely that he was murdered. But I wouldn't want to,

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to get involved in other

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Speaker 4: conspiracy theory because.

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Speaker 3: The Epstein.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think everything Look, everybody in his black looks

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Speaker 4: should be you know, we shouldn't know those names. We

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Speaker 4: should know you know, de class by everything, so being

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Speaker 4: everything lay it out because you know he was in

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Speaker 4: fought that I saw the documentary on him and you

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Speaker 4: know what they were doing was it was just horrific.

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Speaker 4: But I mean that that was thirteen years after I

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Speaker 4: took that fight, and everybody I have to say that,

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Speaker 4: well I knew. I mean I I saw Harvey Weinstein,

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Speaker 4: I Bill Cosby came to my house, and O Jake

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Speaker 4: Simpson came to my house the cable lot, but nobody

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Speaker 4: knew that they were you know, rapers and killers like

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Speaker 4: they were. There were just well known people and you

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Speaker 4: know if you're living in New York.

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Speaker 3: And I need to hang out of your house so

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Speaker 3: I can meet some interesting people.

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Speaker 4: Because when I was a kid, you know, my people

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Speaker 4: came to my my you know, my mom's house when

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Speaker 4: you know, but you don't know who these people aren't

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Speaker 4: turn to get.

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Speaker 1: Arrest until you find out.

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Speaker 3: You got to go, sir, all.

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Speaker 1: You tell people where they can follow your campaign and

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Speaker 1: support you.

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Speaker 4: Thank please, yeah, thank you for thank you for that,

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Speaker 4: because I got in trouble Kennedy twenty four dot com.

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Speaker 4: And you know if you're if you're in a state

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Speaker 4: that there's about fifteen states now where we can sign uh,

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Speaker 4: where we can sign where you can sign a petition

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Speaker 4: to get me on the ballot. I need to get

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Speaker 4: a million signatures. So if your state is not open yet,

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Speaker 4: you can pledge there and then we'll contact you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, you and I have our differences of opinion,

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Speaker 1: but I really encourage people to do that if you

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Speaker 1: just believe in democracy, whether or not you intend on

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Speaker 1: supporting your candidacy. So thank you, We appreciate the time, appreciate.

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Speaker 4: That endorsement, Crystal.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us about that.

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Speaker 4: Always pleasure and we.

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Speaker 3: Look forward to see you again. I appreciate you and

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Speaker 3: we will see you all later.