1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Happy early Thanksgiving. This will be the final show for me, 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: either Buck or me before we go into the holiday. 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: We will have a show all brand new. Former Rush 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Limbaugh employee Brett winter Bowl will be in tomorrow because 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I know many of you are going to be out 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: working or you're going to be traveling, and then there 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: will be best of Yes, there are best moments from 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: this show, despite the belief otherwise from some of you. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: On Thursday and Friday of the program, Buck's already with 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: his family. He will be speaking tonight, by the way, 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: in New York City at the New York Republican Club. Ali. 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: You can correct me if I messed up that name. 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: But those of you listening on WOER will post the 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: link to where Buck will be on clayanbuck dot com 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: if you are interested in seeing Buck speak. He is 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: going to be up in New York City with his 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: family for Thanksgiving, and like I said, we will both 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: be back together on Monday as we roll into a 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: brand new month with all of you an inch closer 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: to the Trump inauguration. Saw something that I thought was 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: really fascinating that was shared yesterday. I believe this is 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: from the New York Times data on how the election 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: moved groups that have shifted towards Republican going all the 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: way back to two thoy and twelve, and I thought 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: this was super interesting because sometimes I feel like you 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: can get lost in how things are moving around you 30 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: and obsessing on a day to day basis. You may 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: have heard me talk about this some reason that I 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: liked writing American Playbook, and I know Buck and I 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: have talked about this some on the show, but I 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: know we've talked about it off the show. When you 35 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: write a book, you're thinking on a longer horizon than 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: when you're doing a show like this, and there's very 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: different aspects associated with that. But I would imagine millions 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: of you are listening to me right now. Millions of 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: you will listen on the podcast, but almost none of 40 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: you will go back and listen to this show a 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: week from now. That is we are here, we are now, 42 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: We are discussing everything that is going on in the 43 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: world for these three hours, but a week from now, 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: all of the stories, by and large will have changed. 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Now there's overall principles that remain consistent, but the particular 46 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: facts and circumstances adjust. And sometimes I think you can 47 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: get lost in worrying about the day to day and 48 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: not notice the over trajectory of progress or of decline. 49 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: And I think about this all the time, not only 50 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: in terms of talking to all of you, but as 51 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: a guy who started a business when I started out 52 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: kick people, you have to be pretty good every day, 53 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: and if you can stack together a lot of pretty goods, 54 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: eventually you can create something that is very lasting and important. 55 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: And that's true in all facets of life. A lot 56 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: of people don't get started because they're so worried about 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: the end result that they don't start the process of 58 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: what it takes to get to the end result. And 59 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: I try to focus on this a lot with my 60 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: own kids. And you can think about this more as 61 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: you become a parent, maybe as you become a grandparent. 62 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: Kids have the luxury of time, and you have to 63 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: be really kind of talking to them about get a 64 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: little bit better every day, focus on something, whatever it 65 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: might be, and just put that work ethic into it 66 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: and over time the results stack up. This is true. 67 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: I had a a writing instructor back in college, and 68 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: I said, and I think it's one of the best 69 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: pieces of advice I ever got. I said, how do 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: you write a book? He said, You show up in 71 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: front of the computer every single day and you write. 72 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: And that sounds really simple. But people want to make 73 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: something that they haven't done sound more complicated because then 74 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: if they don't do it, they feel better about themselves. 75 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: And he built it up even more. He said, you know, 76 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: I think about writing a book like I think about 77 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: going to the gym. If you want to be in shape, 78 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: you pretty much have to show up and put the 79 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: work in every single day. You can't just go to 80 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 1: the gym one day month and think that you're gonna 81 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: get results. It's about putting forth the effort every single day, 82 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: showing up, and sometimes it's frustrating because on an individual 83 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: basis you might not get the results you want. I've 84 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: seen that from a writing perspective. You have to sit 85 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: down and write for a certain amount of time, and 86 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: at the end of the day you may be like, man, 87 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't think I was that good today. You probably 88 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: have felt that if you go to the gym, you're 89 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: trying to get on the bench press and you're like, boy, 90 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't very good today. I didn't set any personal records, 91 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: or you jog and you just feel like crap. It's 92 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: about being there every day, and I think a lot 93 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: of the Trump momentum, a lot of people lost it 94 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: in getting distracted in the every day because you're like, oh, 95 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: did you see what Trump did today? And you're not 96 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: thinking about stacking a bunch of pretty goods. You're starting 97 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: to see what happens in the Republican Party when you 98 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: stack some pretty goods. You know, I'm a sports guy. 99 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: Football games. You bust your ass if you play your 100 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: coach football for forty to fifty sixty seventy hours a 101 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: week and then you get judged on one three hour 102 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: performance and you might be good, you might be bad, 103 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: But it's a small segment of the work that you 104 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: put out there. Over time. If you're doing good work, 105 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: you start to get good results. But any one game 106 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: you might not get the results you want. Why do 107 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: I bring that up. I think you're starting to see 108 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: a lot of the pretty goods stacked from Trump over 109 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: the last decade and the impact that it's seeing in 110 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: the election. We just saw it in a big way 111 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, and I think a lot of 112 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: people haven't noticed it. You know, the only group that 113 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris did better with, based on the data that 114 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: I've seen, than Joe Biden, college educated white people. Everybody else, 115 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris lost ground on. And I want to hit 116 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: you with this data. This is from the New York Times. 117 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: Groups shifting towards Republican. You might feel it, but the 118 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Republican Party looks a lot different today, and it's stronger, 119 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: and it's more vibrant than it has been maybe at 120 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: any point in the twenty first century, because it actually 121 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: reflects becoming to be a real what the country looks 122 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: like moment. Let me give you this. In twenty twelve, Republicans, 123 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: let me say Democrats. Democrats won black voters ninety five 124 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: to four. Let me repeat that. In two thousand and two, 125 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: twelve Democrats won black voters by ninety one points, ninety 126 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: five to four. Now that was Barack Obama's second term. 127 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Black voters showed up in a big way for Barack Obama. 128 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: What just happened in the twenty twenty four election, Democrats 129 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: only won black voters by seventy two points, according to 130 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: The New York Times. That's a lot, still a really 131 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: big margin, primarily driven by black women, by the way, 132 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: but that means Republicans have improved by nineteen points among 133 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: black voters in the space of twelve years. That's pretty extraordinary. 134 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: That means now again, that shift over time is a 135 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: big overall impact from Democrats plus ninety one to Democrats 136 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: plus seventy two. Okay, it's not just there. Twenty twelve, 137 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Hispanic voters voted for Democrats by thirty nine points, sixty 138 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: nine to thirty. How About in the most recent election nationwide, 139 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: Hispanics only voted for Democrats by ten points. Republicans have 140 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: gained twenty nine points among Hispanic voters over the last 141 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: twelve years. How about Asian In twenty twelve, Asian voters 142 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: sixty seven to thirty two voted for Democrats. In this 143 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: most recent election, Asian voters Democrats only won by eighteen 144 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: That's a Republican plus seventeen shift in twelve years. Again, 145 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: this non white voters. Over the last twelve years, Black 146 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: voters Republicans plus nineteen Hispanic voters Republicansians plus twenty nine, 147 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: Asian voters Republicans plus seventeen. All right, what's going on here? 148 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: Democrats have a major branding issue. They have allowed their 149 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: party to be taken over by highly educated, to a 150 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: large extent, white women, and that worldview of highly educated 151 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: white women turns off black, Hispanic and Asian voters male 152 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: and female in a huge way. And the branding, I 153 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: think is only going to grow because listen to this. 154 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, young voters those eighteen to twenty nine 155 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: voted for the Democrat Party plus twenty five. This most 156 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: recent election, it was to Democrats plus eleven. That is 157 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: a Republican fourteen point surge, driven overwhelmingly by young men. 158 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: The country is revolting against Democrat ideals. Many of you 159 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: out there listening to me right now are frankly like me. 160 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: You are past Democrat voters. In fact, let's do that, 161 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: be thankful for you. Let's open up the phone lines. 162 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: I only want to hear from people listening to us 163 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: right now who were first time Trump voters. In twenty 164 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: twenty four, only people who voted for Donald Trump for 165 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: the first time, and by the way. When I say this, 166 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: do you know what happens? The phone lines get flooded 167 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,479 Speaker 1: and people say, I voted for Trump all three times. 168 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm asking for. I appreciate you, You'll right, 169 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: you're great. I want only first time Trump voters. I'm 170 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: talking about stacking together pretty goods. You don't build a 171 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: house in one day. You don't write a book in 172 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: one day. You don't develop a relationship in one day. 173 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: You stack together a lot of pretty goods. You don't 174 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: raise a kid in one day. You try to stack 175 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: together as many pretty good days. People want to be excellent. 176 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: That's great. Excellent days are amazing. You don't win with excellent, 177 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: You win with pretty good every day. Because you're getting 178 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of gain every day and you're not 179 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: going backwards. Make your goal pretty good. You get a 180 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: lot of pretty goods. Excellent becomes commonplace, my ted talk, 181 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: my life advice. But I'd like to hear from you 182 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: out there listening here on Thanksgiving week. We are thankful 183 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: for you first time Trump voters, in particular, especially if 184 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: you're listening to me right now, when you're young, maybe 185 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: this was your first ever election. I would love to 186 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: hear from y'all as we're rolling through the Tuesday edition 187 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: of the program, because I am particularly thankful for all 188 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: of you. By the way, we got a fun show 189 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: headed your way. Let me give you a little bit 190 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: of a roadmap. My buddy Joel Klatt. A lot of 191 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: you out there. No Joel, he is going to be 192 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: calling the Michigan Ohio state game. He's been a longtime 193 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: friend of mine. He's gonna hop on. We'll have some 194 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: fun with that with him in Thanksgiving week. And then 195 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, one of the guys out there runs Turning 196 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: Point that is most I think responsible for many of 197 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: these swing states going the way they did, and for 198 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: outreach to young men in particular on college campuses. He's 199 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna join us in the third hour. I think that 200 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: you guys will enjoy that as well. 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Reminder, we will have a live 237 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: show tomorrow with guest host Brent Winterbol who's been part 238 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: of the Rush family for a very long time, and 239 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: then there will be best of Thursday and Friday. Joel 240 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: Klatt joins us now Fox lead college football analysts. Do 241 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: you think there's actually a best of version of this show? 242 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: Or based on my past history, do you question whether 243 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: there's any good radio I've ever done, Joel. 244 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: Well, as long as there's like significant amount of Buck, 245 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure you sprinkled in something along the lines, like 246 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: some sort of quip or joke, but Buck wouldn't likely 247 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: be the large, the large contingent of the. 248 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: Best of Yes, I appreciate you being such a fan 249 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: you are. I don't know if you're still in California. 250 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: Where we get started on college football. Can I just 251 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: give your audience, which is, by the way, significant, So 252 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: congratulations to you because you've. 253 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: The largest anywhere in radio. Humbly, Yes, but yes, what 254 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: would you like to tell the audience? 255 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: You can't say, oh, largest ever and then humbly, But 256 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: that's I know your personality, so I get it. So 257 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: do you want to talk about, like eleven years ago, 258 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: the conversation that you and I had in the shattle 259 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: room at Fox Sports. 260 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: Yes, you tell the people because I've talked about my 261 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: political evolution, but you and I for people who don't know, 262 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: Joel is and I hate to give him a compliment, 263 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: but the best person at calling college football games, I 264 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: think in the country right now, he will be calling 265 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: for all of you that are not huge college football fans. 266 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: Because Joel Buck had never been to a college football 267 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: game in his entire life. He grew up in New 268 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: York City until I took him to Ole Miss, Alabama, 269 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: and can you imagine his cultural experience? Like you played 270 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: quarterback in college football, you're well versed in how awesome 271 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: college football is. Buck had never been to a game, 272 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: had no idea college football even existed as a big 273 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: social event. 274 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure his mind was blown, totally, completely bum because 275 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: it's the furthest thing from professional sports. Professional sports. Hey, 276 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: they're great, but they're very corporate, very yes, And you 277 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: go to a college football game and it is the 278 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: most tribal like, unique and organic type of sporting event 279 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: that you could find, certainly in this country. And I 280 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: think that from what I understand it, it rivals kind 281 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: of like Premier League soccer style tribalism. So yes, yeah, 282 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: I bet that that was incredible. 283 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: Oh, he was blown away. He was like, I had 284 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: no idea that this entire subculture existed, or Joel that 285 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: everybody at the Alabama ol Miss game loved him and 286 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: agreed with almost everything he said. You know, so he's 287 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: in New York City, like voting for Donald Trump and 288 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: people are just like, I hate you, you know, like, 289 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: go to hell, what are you doing in that reg 290 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: red maga hat? And then he's down in Tuscaloosa and 291 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: people are like, hey, do you want to drink pretty girls? 292 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: He was single at the time, walking around in sun dresses, 293 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: like everywhere, everybody's happy, joyful, and he's like, this is 294 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: kind of a mate. Weather's perfect. He's like, this is unbelievable. 295 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: But that's background for Buck. I thought you should know. 296 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: So this is where Clay and I met as we 297 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: were doing a college football show on Fox Sports about 298 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: eleven years ago when when Fox Sports won first started 299 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: and Clay would fly out and we'd do a Saturday 300 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: morning show. So we got to sit and watch college 301 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: football and what we call the avocado. 302 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Room or like a normal green room. 303 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: And so I'm getting to know Clay and he's getting 304 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: to know me, and you know you and I immediately, 305 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, click on college football, and you're a contrarian. 306 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: So we would argue about college football, and then all 307 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: of a sudden one day, you know, we start getting 308 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: into like social aspects and cultural aspects and then politics, 309 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: and you were just died in the wool. You were like, oh, yeah, 310 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 2: I'm a Democrat. And then you were explaining all your 311 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: positions and I was like, hey, Clay, like, no, you're 312 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: not You're a Republican. And you were like, I am 313 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: not a Republican. There's no way I worked for al 314 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: Gore and you shouted at me like three times I 315 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: worked for Al Gore, and I remember telling you at 316 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: the time. I was like, Clay, you're a conservative, you 317 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: just don't even know it yet. And then here we are. 318 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: And so now every time I see you, I just 319 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: have a little bit of a smirk that I feel 320 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: like I was a small part in your red pill. 321 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: I mean, in all honesty. In twenty thirteen, when you 322 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: and I started doing college football together at Fox, the 323 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: country hadn't gone totally and completely insane. And I know 324 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: you've got three boys yourself too, but like it's crazy. 325 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I started off the show talking about, for instance, the 326 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: evolution of there's a lot of people out there that 327 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: are listening to us right now, Joel that are black, White, 328 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: Asian and Hispanic that voted for Barack Obama that were thinking, 329 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: like me, hey, I'm a Democrat. And then one day 330 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: you look around and people are like, hey, you know, 331 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: if you're a dude who wants to say that you're 332 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: a girl, you should be able to win a women's championship. 333 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: And you're like, what, And you have to believe that 334 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: in order to vote Democrat, Like it's kind of crazy. 335 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: What the test, but the proxy became right. It went 336 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: from you know, hey, what do you think the tax 337 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: rate should be? To hey, if you say you're a 338 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: different sex than you actually are, I have to acknowledge, 339 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: believe it, and actually award you a women's sports championship 340 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: to be a democratic good standing. And some people are 341 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that's that's a bridgeway too far. 342 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: Well clearly, and and yeah that's wild. So that's that's 343 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: how Play and I became friends. 344 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: And it started. 345 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: It started with college football, and you know, and has 346 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: has evolved now outside of college football. I'm incredibly proud 347 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: of you, buddy. I know that I choke on that 348 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: a little bit, but you know, I am. You're doing 349 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: a great job. 350 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this. By the way, 351 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: Buck makes fun of me, but you mentioned that we 352 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: became friends initially because we're both big college football fans. 353 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: I naturally trust college football fans, regardless of what team 354 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: they root for, even Alabama fans, more than I do 355 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: people who are not college football fans. I bet with 356 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: what you do. You also have that same feeling because 357 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: there is some sort of innate foundational connection there, even 358 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: if you root for different teams. I think that is 359 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: more substantial than just college football fandom. Do you feel 360 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: that same way? 361 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'll probably give myself in trouble for saying 362 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 2: it this way, but whatever, it's your show. So I 363 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 2: think that college football is one of the most American 364 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: things in our sporting world. It is totally and almost 365 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: completely void of the political influence that we've seen in 366 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: professional sports. And I think, having been around it my 367 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: whole life, there's a purity to college football that maybe 368 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: doesn't exist in other arena is of sport. And so 369 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: because of that, when when I see or or hear from, 370 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: or talk with or converse with people in our sport, 371 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 2: around our sport that love our sport, I know that 372 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: there is a genuine love of that and not some 373 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: sort of ulterior motive, if that makes sense. And I 374 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: think that's what I've kind of boiled it down to. 375 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: I know, you say from a trust factor, but there's 376 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: there's a love of our sport that is just deeper 377 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: than anything else, and there's no other avenue that I 378 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: feel like people are trying to get there. And and 379 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: also if you tell me, like, wow, I'm not a 380 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: fan of college football, well, then I assume that you're 381 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: just like an academic, and I don't trust academics at all. 382 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: We're talking to Joel Klatt. Let me let me also 383 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: dive into this with you, because I don't think we 384 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: talked about it much publicly, but you and I fought 385 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: super hard and you did it publicly, which was actually 386 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: rare for people in sports media to have seasons played 387 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: in sports during COVID. Why do you think that was 388 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: so important? And looking back on it now four years later, Hey, 389 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: by the way, you and I and everybody who fought 390 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: and said we can do this safely were one hundred 391 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: percent right, And it's amazing all those people who said 392 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: we couldn't do it, they just pretend that argument never happened. Right. 393 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't about football. It was about freedom, and 394 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: it was about the idea that something could be told 395 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 2: to us that didn't have to be proven. And in 396 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: many ways the way it was communicated to us was 397 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: false and under false pretense. And yet we had to 398 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: sit there and just take it because that's why I pushed. 399 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: It wasn't specifically for football or anything else I was 400 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: I was pushing for I know it sounds so stupid, 401 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: But for free them, Clay, and for me. You know, this, 402 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: this idea that we were just going to with with 403 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: limited knowledge, give up was something I was not willing 404 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: to do. My dad fought in Vietnam. I knew the 405 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: importance of college football. I knew the importance of maintaining 406 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: social perspective in terms of trying to achieve a goal. 407 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: I knew how important college football was to the individuals 408 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: playing it. I knew important how important college football was 409 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: to the fans that wanted to see it to the 410 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: other sports. So you see, here's the thing that people 411 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: don't understand. It's not just a college football game. That 412 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: college football game is supporting every single athlete at that 413 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: university and within that conference. So every opportunity given in 414 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: an athletic endeavor in college athletics is provided by college football. 415 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: And if we just decide that we were going to 416 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: forego that, we were impacting thousands of people that aren't 417 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: even involved in the sport. And for all of those reasons, 418 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: I was completely unwilling to be silent. 419 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you weren't. And we won, and the 420 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: season was played, and it ended up a tremendous success. 421 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: You are going to be in Columbus, Ohio this weekend 422 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: calling Michigan Ohio State. It's going to be one of 423 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: the most watched regular season games of the year. For 424 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: people who have never watched the big Game, why should 425 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: they check it out? And for people that are fired 426 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: up to watch it, what do you expect to see? 427 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: So this is the greatest rivalry that we have in 428 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: American sports, all due respect to everything else. Professional sports 429 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: doesn't touch this. And even in college football, even though 430 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: you think Tennessee, Florida is some sort of great rivalry, 431 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: it's not compared to Ohio State Michigan. This thing is like, 432 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: it goes so deep and traditions at both of these schools. 433 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 2: And what makes this iteration so interesting to me is 434 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: that Ohio State, which had owned the rivalry for the 435 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: better part of about twenty years, they've gotten beat three 436 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: straight years by Michigan. Michigan won the national championship, And 437 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: so there is this deep hatred between these schools and 438 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: this idea that Ohio State, even as successful as they are, 439 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: they're the number two team ranked in the country. They're 440 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: ten to one, and even though Michigan's not had a 441 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: great season, there's this idea that nothing, nothing, will make 442 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: the season of success unless they're able to beat Michigan. 443 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: They have to do it, and from that standpoint, it's 444 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: just incredibly, incredibly interesting. I expect Ohio State will play 445 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: really well. They're one of the best teams in the country, 446 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: and Michigan would like nothing more than to ruin the 447 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: Buckeye season because of the hatred that goes way back 448 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: into the nineteen sixties between Woody Hayes and Bo Schimbecker. 449 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: So these are things that are so fascinating to me. 450 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: And then you've got all the aspects of the college 451 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: Football Playoff. Those of you listeners that are not super 452 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: college football fans, here's the deal. The College Football Playoff 453 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: has expanded, has gone to twelve teams, and there's been 454 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: more interest now in our sport than ever before. So, 455 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: for instance, a team like Tennessee Clays team is like 456 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: firmly in the playoff and everything broke for them last week. 457 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: A team like Indiana, which has the most losses in 458 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: college football history, they get a new head coach this year, 459 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: he brings in transfers, and now they're ten to one 460 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: and firmly in my eyes, inside of the college football line. 461 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: So our sport's never been better. A team like Indiana 462 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: can get back into the mix of things. Tennessee is 463 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: in the mix of things, and from that standpoint, this 464 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: week is going to be very fun. 465 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: Tonight is last question for you, and i'd encourage you 466 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: guys to go follow Joel Clatt at Joel Clatt on Twitter. 467 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: You can tell him thanks for coming on the program 468 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: here and maybe you give him tips for Big ten 469 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: towns because he goes everywhere now to call games, in 470 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: particular in the Big Ten. What do you think is 471 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: controversial in terms of the playoff committee tonight? Do you 472 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: think SMU is in? Do you think Miami? Does the 473 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: ACC get to You said you think Indiana Tennessee are 474 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: comfortably in. Where's that bubble? Who are the teams inside 475 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: and outside that you think people need to pay attention to? 476 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's been a lot of talk about Indiana 477 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: because they haven't played necessarily a great schedule, But now 478 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: after playing Ohio State last week, they lost that game, 479 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: but now their strength of schedule is significantly better than 480 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: what it was prior. So if you compare them to like, 481 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: let's say, in Miami or an SMU or even a 482 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: team like let's say Notre Dame. Their strength of schedule 483 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: stacks up more favorably and their loss is much better 484 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: than those other teams loss. So Indiana, I think on 485 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: the outside, the narrative is that they would be on 486 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 2: the bubble. I don't think that they will be, or 487 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: nor should be. They're going to be firmly in. The 488 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: teams that I'm looking at from a bubble perspective are 489 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: teams like SMU Clemson, who's all a sudden after some 490 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: early struggles, back in the mix of things. And then 491 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: the biggest question I'm going to have is where do 492 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: they put these three loss SEC teams, teams like Alabama 493 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: and Ole Miss. How far do they drop them down 494 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: after they took bad losses last weekend? Because that'll tell 495 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: us everything we need to know about the number of 496 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: teams the SEC gets in. And I can tell you 497 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: this because Clay, You're one of them. Those Sea fans 498 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: have been thinking to themselves the whole time they're going 499 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: to get four or five teams in, and right now 500 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: it looks like maybe there max is three. 501 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: No doubt. Joel, have fun, Tell your family Happy Thanksgiving. 502 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate the time, and we'll talk to you again. 503 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Always great to chat with you. Proud of you man, 504 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: you're doing great. 505 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: Same to be said for you again. I encourage you guys. 506 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Go followed at Joel Klatt. Let him know you appreciate 507 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: him coming on. Sometimes you guys ask like, and I've 508 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: said this before on the program, but what's something you 509 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: can do to grow the show? If you're on social 510 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: media and you enjoy a guest. We don't pay any buddy. 511 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: Nobody's getting paid to come on this program at any point. 512 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: They're doing it because they want to come talk with you. Guys, 513 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: reach out social media. Agreed, disagree with whatever they say, 514 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: but let them know that you appreciate being able to 515 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: hear them on the program, regardless of who they may be. 516 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you Thanksgivings coming up. How many of 517 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: you out there have great Thanksgiving memories with your friends 518 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: and family. How many of you had old VHS tapes 519 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: back in the day that aren't preserved that you know 520 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: that VHS tape is not designed to last for a 521 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: long time, those old camcode quarters. How many of you 522 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: even have VCRs anymore? Legacy Box can digitize all those 523 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: old family memories and make it egy to share, really 524 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: easy to share for you on a digitized basis. Right 525 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: now you can get hooked up with sixty five percent 526 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: off their regular prices again Black Friday Special Legacy Box 527 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: dot Com slash Clay sixty five percent off right now, 528 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: that's the Legacy Box dot Com slash Clay. They got 529 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: two hundred people hooking you up twenty different types of 530 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: old media they can convert to digital. Legacybox dot Com 531 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: slash Clay. Encourage you to download the podcast. You can 532 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: take us anywhere in the country or indeed around the world. 533 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: You search out my name Clay Travis, search out Buck Sexton. 534 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: You will not be missing a moment no matter where 535 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: you may be. We want all of you to be 536 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: safe as you are driving and or flying around the 537 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: country to be with your friends and family for Thanksgiving. 538 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and two eight two two eight eight two 539 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: and taking interesting calls from first time Trump voters. First 540 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: time Trump voters about what made you decide to vote 541 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: for Trump. I think it's interesting. Arizona, Louisiana, and Florida. 542 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: Three different men in their late thirties and their fifties 543 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: nearly sixty who had never voted before, all calling in 544 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: to say that they voted Donald Trump. I thought that 545 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: was super interesting. Listen to the program. We appreciate all 546 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: of you would be intrigued to hear those calls continue 547 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: for this hour. At the bottom of the hour, we're 548 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna go talk with Charlie Kirk, who has worked really 549 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: hard with Turning Point to help flip all seven of 550 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: the swing states to Trump, and we will see what 551 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: he thinks was the ultimate dispositive factor, in particular why 552 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: young men out there moved in such massive magnitude towards Trump. 553 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 1: Encourage you to go listen to first couple hours of 554 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: the program. You will enjoy them, I think, including my 555 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: good buddy Joel Klatt at the top of the last hour, 556 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: particularly if you are a college football fan. Hearing from him. 557 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: Lots of fun as always. So I also want to 558 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: let you know that Buck will be back on Monday, 559 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: and he wanted to tell all of you to have 560 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: fantastic Thanksgivings. He is in New York City with his family, 561 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: will be speaking at the New York Republican Club tonight. 562 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: If you happen to be in wor listenership you may 563 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: get to see Buck tonight speaking in New York City, 564 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: so tell him Happy Thanksgiving. But in the meantime, he 565 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: wanted all of you to know that he wants you 566 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: to have fabulous Thanksgivings. Okay, media, one thing that I 567 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: think I got right. There are lots of things that 568 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: all of us get wrong in our professions. I talked 569 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: earlier in the program about how just try to be 570 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: pretty good, try to show up every day and get 571 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: a little bit better. If you do that, over time, 572 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: you will make gains. And whatever you do in whatever 573 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: aspect of life you pursue, you have to show up. 574 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: You have to put forward the effort. You have to 575 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: do it every day, whether it's get in shape. You 576 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: don't get in shape by only working out one day, 577 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: by only engaging in physical activity. You don't write a 578 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: book by sitting down and having one good day every 579 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: two weeks. You got to show up and do the 580 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: work every single day, and over time, if you're pretty good, 581 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: the advantage is are to stack up in your favor 582 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: I think sports is the perfect example of this, because 583 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: you don't win the game based on your performance on 584 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: game day. You win it based on how hard you're 585 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: working in advance of game days. I always say game 586 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: days should be fun. They shouldn't be stressful. Practice, if 587 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: you're doing it right, shouldn't be that much fun. Games themselves, 588 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: that's why you go to practice. That's when you win. 589 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: So I thought this was interesting. My thesis when I 590 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: started OutKick in twenty eleven ended up selling it a 591 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 1: decade later. Was in a social media era, the name 592 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: on the back of the jersey mattered more than the 593 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: name on the front of the jersey. And I want 594 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: you to think about that as I start to discuss 595 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: some of these clips, because I think many people out 596 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: there in traditional media are just starting to realize that 597 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: now radio is a little bit different than television, because 598 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: radio has always been, as Rush discovered when he started 599 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: this show thirty some odd years ago, a place where 600 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: people come to hear individual talent that they like. Buck 601 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 1: and I get to sit at the golden microphone now, 602 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: but we had to develop our own audiences before we 603 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: ended up here. For a long time, the CNNs of 604 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: the world, the msnbcs of the world, the espns of 605 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: the world, if they put you on their platform, they 606 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: could make you a star. And I'll use ESPN as 607 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: a particular example, they used to say, we don't care 608 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: if people leave us, because the platform is the star, 609 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: not the person on the platform. And I think that 610 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: was certainly true at New York Times, ABC, CBS, NBC. 611 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: A question that I have been asking recently, and I'd 612 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: like for you guys to think about, is is there 613 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: anybody on MSNBC or c that have such strong audience 614 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: connections that if they left those platforms they would be 615 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: able to make even one tenth of their salary. I 616 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: think the answer is no. The platform is still the 617 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: star some places, but these platforms are collapsing. They're icebergs 618 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,959 Speaker 1: which are slowly melting, and people are fighting as hard 619 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: as they can to stay on a diminishing surface. Okay, 620 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: So the guy that I would say is actually developing 621 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: an audience for himself on CNN right now is Scott Jennings. 622 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: And he went on CNN and he said something interesting 623 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: which I think is true. He said, X under Elon 624 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: Musk is actually much more of a cosmopolitan place. That is, 625 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: it's not just a left wing focused social media company, 626 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: as many of them have been. It is actually balanced 627 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: between Democrats and Republicans. It is in other words, a 628 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: reflection of the larger population as opposed to a left wing, 629 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: idiolog focused crazy town. That's the change. This is what 630 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: it sounded like on CNN. I want you to be 631 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: able to hear it. As he's immediately called out on 632 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: CNN for saying that Twitter X is no longer a 633 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: supremely left wing biased company. Listen, I heard what you're 634 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: saying about X. 635 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: I saw a survey this week. It's now the most 636 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 2: ideologically balancedtform. Stop it is too early. I just say, you. 637 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: Cannot say that. 638 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: What I find we've reported. 639 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: It on this network. Okay, who's your source? He says, 640 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: we reported it on the network? Who questioned him? Oh, 641 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: woman named Carrie Champion who used to be on ESPN 642 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: but got fired because even ESPN said she's too woke. 643 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: Now she's showed back up on CNN and she's not 644 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: doing her basic homework, just like she didn't do her 645 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: basic homework when she was on ESPN. Of Hey, actually, 646 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: everything that he's saying is true. And he said, she said, 647 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: what's your source? And he said our network, which is 648 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: an amazing answer. We actually aired it on CNN, and 649 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: he shared earlier Scott Jennings did the receipts. But this 650 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: is Harry Inton on CNN saying exactly what Scott Jennings 651 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: said that under Elon Musk, instead of having a profound 652 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: left wing lean, Twitter actually reflects roughly the American population. Listen, 653 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: look at this the party idea. 654 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 3: Among those who regularly use x slash Twitter for news. 655 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 3: Back in twenty twenty two, sixty five percent of those 656 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: who regularly used Twitter slash x for news were Democrats, 657 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 3: just thirty one percent Republicans. Look where we are today, 658 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 3: just a completely different picture. 659 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 4: Now it's basically split between. 660 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: Democrats at forty eight percent Republicans at forty seven percent. 661 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: And what I should know, mister Berman. 662 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: Is this, Now, this new overall makeup matches the overall 663 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 3: electorate far better. 664 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so matches the overall electorate far better. This ties 665 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: in with a recent speech that Jim Van Derhey, who 666 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: runs Axios, gave where he ridiculed the idea that Elon 667 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: Musk put forward, which is all of you and me 668 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: and all of us are the media now and that's 669 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: what Twitter represents. Listen to Vanda Hay and think about 670 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: why he feels so attacked by that idea. 671 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 4: Everything we do is under fire. Elon Musk is on 672 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 4: Twitter every day or X today saying like we are 673 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 4: the media, you are the media. My message to Elon 674 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 4: Musk is both, you're. 675 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: Not the media. 676 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 4: You having you having a blue check mark, a Twitter 677 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 4: handle in three hundred words of cleverness doesn't make you 678 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 4: a reporter anymore than me looking at your head and 679 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 4: seeing that you have a brain and telling you have 680 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 4: an awesome set of tools makes me a damn neurosurgeon. 681 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 4: You don't proclaim yourself to be a reporter like this nonsense, 682 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 4: like being a reporter is hard, really hard. You have 683 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 4: to care, you have to do the hard work, you 684 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 4: have to skit up every single day and say I 685 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 4: want to get to the closest approximation of the truth 686 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 4: without any fear, without any favoritism. You don't even do 687 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 4: that by popping off on Twitter. 688 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I think Elon Musk is right, and I think 689 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: most people who do media for a living don't have 690 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: any idea how hard real jobs are. I mean, I 691 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: mean not honestly. I'm not saying I don't work hard. 692 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: I do. I work really really hard to do this 693 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: job well. But it's not anywhere near as physically demanding 694 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: as many of the jobs that you guys do. That's 695 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: the truth. That's why I've never had a sick day 696 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: in my entire radio career. There are some days I 697 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: don't feel well. There are some days maybe I'll I'll 698 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: probably inevitably get sick, super sick on Monday or something. 699 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: Now that I'm saying this, I've never had a sick day. 700 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: I've done the show with COVID, I've done the show 701 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: where I do take breaks and throw up. Why Because 702 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: my grandfather worked in a coal mine in Kentucky. I 703 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: bet that sucked. I bet it wasn't very fun to 704 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: go way underground in the dark and work in a 705 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: coal mine. I know it wasn't very fun because the 706 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: reason he came to Nashville, Clay Travis, I was named 707 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: after him, is from Eulenburg County, Kentucky. There's probably some 708 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: of you listening right now, is because he wanted to 709 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 1: find a better job. He ended up working his whole 710 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: life basically at DuPont the factory in Old Hickory, Tennessee. 711 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: But I think the arrogance of people who get to 712 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: make a living sitting and air conditioning. Typing on a 713 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 1: laptop is the same arrogance that many of you felt 714 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: during COVID, when people who were in positions of privilege said, 715 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: just stay home. It's not that hard. You don't need 716 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: to work. Just stay home and order your food and 717 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: they'll deliver it to you. Just stay home. All of 718 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: the people that have real jobs that actually make our 719 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: country work, truck drivers, grocery store stockers, people in gas stations, 720 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: people with real jobs, they still had to go out 721 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: and do them. All of these rich journalists without very 722 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: difficult jobs lectured to all of you about how you 723 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: needed to just stay home and part tech yourself because 724 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: they don't know the real world. And I got to 725 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: tell you, you don't need to go to college to 726 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: be a journalist. All you have to do is be 727 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: somewhat interested in pursuing the truth. And you know what's interesting, 728 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: an awful lot of you were way more accurate than 729 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: an awful lot of the so called experts over the 730 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: past several years. And I think the threat that Vanda 731 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: he is speaking to, and the reason why all those 732 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,439 Speaker 1: CNN panelists got so upset, is they don't provide much 733 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: of additional value. You know, I always think about things 734 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: from an employer employee perspective. My advice to you is 735 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: always find out what your boss's boss does, and if 736 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 1: you can figure out a way to make him happy, 737 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: then you're probably going to have a job forever. And oh, 738 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: by the way, if you really want to have a career, 739 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: if your boss's boss doesn't have a job that you 740 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: would aspire to have some day, you need to find 741 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: something new to do. It's always my advice. People say, oh, 742 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: how do you end up doing well before you figure 743 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: out a lot of people say, oh, I want to 744 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: make this much money or I want to Oh that's 745 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: all fine, I'm ambitious. I want you to be ambitious. 746 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: But if you're pursuing something that you have no interest 747 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: in doing, you're going to lose. So I always say, 748 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: if you're in a profession right now, and by the way, 749 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: not everybody gets to pursue something that they want to do. 750 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: I understand lots of you have to do jobs. I've 751 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 1: been there to pay the mortgage or put your kids 752 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 1: through school, all those things. But if you're a kid 753 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: right now and you're listening to me, and you're twenty 754 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: years old, and you're thinking about what career you're gonna chase. 755 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: Find out what your boss's boss does. If you don't 756 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: want to do that, you need to find something new 757 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: to do, because if you're not aspiring to be at 758 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 1: different rungs than where you are right now. The reason 759 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: I left the practice of law was I saw what 760 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: my boss's boss did, and I said, it really doesn't 761 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: seem like something I have that much desire to do. 762 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: I could have done it if I had been older 763 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: and I had kids, I would have kept doing it, 764 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: because once you have kids, in my opinion, your loyalty 765 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: is no longer to your own individual ambition. It's to 766 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,240 Speaker 1: take care of your family. You ever hear that cliche 767 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: you want to employ a dad, you want to employ 768 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,479 Speaker 1: a mom. They got something at stake that's beyond them. 769 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: They're typically going to show up if they're decent parents, 770 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: and bust their ass, not for themselves, as many of 771 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: you are doing out there, as many of you are 772 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: doing now for your grandkids, not for your own achievement, 773 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: but to provide the opportunity to the next generation, which 774 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: ties in with my opening of the show today, I 775 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,479 Speaker 1: think the reason why so many people are moving towards 776 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: the Republican Party, Black, White, Asian, Hispanic is because the 777 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: Republican Party actually so hope, they actually sell achievement, they 778 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: actually believe in the meritocracy. Those are all things that 779 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: if you have kids or grandkids, you care about so much. 780 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: And I just think it's interesting as the media's power 781 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: is collapsing, as the name on the back of the 782 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: jersey is mattering more than the name on the front 783 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: of the jersey, you're starting to see, like rats on 784 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: a sinking ship, so many of these people attacking others 785 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: like Elon Musk, who are giving platforms for so many 786 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: different of us out there to be able to grow 787 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: our audience. I'll talk a little bit more about that, 788 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: because I do think it's significant of where we're headed 789 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: and where we've been. But I want to tell you 790 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: right now all about birch gold. And if you've been 791 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: paying attention to the value of gold, it has been 792 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: skyrocketing as the overall number of our national debt continues 793 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 1: to grow too. Gold has always been a place where 794 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: people go to store assets that retains value. The only 795 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: heads you can take against the declining dollar, even in 796 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: great economics, is by the purchase of gold. 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Trump is going to win Arizona by 816 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: about five and a half points. Charlie's a big reason why. 817 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: But before we get into that, Charlie, you and I 818 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: ran into each other at mar Lago recently. What's the 819 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: first thing you wanted to talk about? 820 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 2: Oh, college football. That's the only thing I want to 821 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 2: talk about. Great to be here, Clay, I mean, I 822 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 2: talked politics all day long. It's refreshing to talk to 823 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: somebody that is as informed or even better informed than 824 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 2: me on the most the more important thing that happens 825 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 2: in the fall, not the election, but our tradition of 826 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 2: college football. So great to be here. We had a 827 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 2: great time catching up and talking about how the organ 828 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 2: Ducks should win the national championship this year. 829 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: All right, So I have told Buck for some time, 830 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: Buck is out for Thanksgiving already, that I trust college 831 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: football fans immediately more than other people, before I even 832 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: know any else about them. You've been all over the 833 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: country working in battleground states, Big ten, sec A, PAC 834 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: twelve used to be obviously Big twelve. All of the 835 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: different acc conferences out there were their battlegrounds. Do you 836 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 1: also trust college football fans more than anybody else? 837 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 838 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 2: Without a doubt. Now when you say all these conferences, 839 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. You're talking about 840 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 2: the a SEC powerhouse of cal Berkeley. I mean, it's 841 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 2: very confusing. 842 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: So taking a shot at your old PAC twelve arrivals, 843 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. 844 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 2: More about conference realignments. It's just the whole thing is 845 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 2: so goofy. But no, Yes, if someone that's a passion 846 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 2: for college football, I have something like inherently and deep 847 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 2: in common with them, more so than almost anything. 848 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: So you speaking of college football, A lot of young 849 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: men are college football fans. The campaign that was just run, 850 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: if you had to point to one group that moved 851 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 1: most massively from plus fourteen for Biden to plus fourteen 852 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: for Trump according to at least one on Wall Street 853 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: Journal poll that I saw. Why did young men, in 854 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: your mind, people that you have been reaching out to 855 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: aggressively move so substantially in this election. 856 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 2: I'd say, I think it's because they want to be 857 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 2: part of a political movement that doesn't hate them. Over 858 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 2: the last couple of years, you started to see the 859 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 2: woke stuff that was really incubated in twenty twenty start 860 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 2: to germinate and metastasize and grow into all of our institutions. 861 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 2: And one of the core orthodoxies of woke is what 862 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 2: we call DEI is really a hatred of Christian white 863 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 2: straight men. And I hate to be that blunt about it, 864 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,240 Speaker 2: but it is. It's the orthodox of it, the orthodoxy 865 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 2: of it, and young men. Why am I being part 866 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 2: of this? Exactly? I want to be part of a 867 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 2: political movement that at least acknowledges that there is men 868 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 2: and women and says that it's a good thing to 869 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 2: be a man and that masculinity is not inherently toxic. 870 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 2: And I think top of that though, go ahead, police. 871 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah no, I was just going to say, I think 872 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: what's interesting and you may have been going there too, 873 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: is it starts with white men are the problem. But 874 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 1: the problem with that is eventually it has to grow 875 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: and I think black guys, Hispanic guys', Asian guys looking 876 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: around like, hey, I don't think masculinity is toxic. I 877 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: think that men and women are different. And suddenly you 878 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: can't say that'd be a democrat correct. 879 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 2: And then it even grows deeper into this kind of 880 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 2: tyranny of political correctness, which at its core is like 881 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 2: toxic femininity, which is that we're going to police all 882 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: of your speech. The left has become a bunch of skolds, 883 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 2: of hall monitors of people that do not believe in 884 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 2: free expression or dialogue or discourse. And you know what 885 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 2: we've seen in the last couple of years is now 886 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 2: a backlash of that where if there is anyone in 887 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 2: the quote unquote manisphere, you know, you say, Joe Rogan, 888 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 2: the Fio Vaughn, it's not that they're conservative, but they're 889 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 2: inherently anti left, that they're against the kind of new 890 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 2: left wing dogma and doctrine that believes that there needs 891 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 2: to be speech codes that you know, this trans nonsense. 892 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 2: And so young men in particular kind of led the 893 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 2: rebellion towards a political movement, one rooted in common sense patriotism, liberty, 894 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 2: and freedom. 895 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: Were you surprised by how well Trump did in the 896 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 1: battleground states or were the results almost exactly what you expected. 897 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 2: I didn't get into prediction business. You know, I'll tell 898 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 2: you the weekend before I modeled out a way where 899 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 2: we could win and that we could lose. You never 900 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 2: quite know, because polling is such a guest to it. 901 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 2: I will say this though, you know, visiting a lot 902 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 2: of these schools, we did these campus events that were 903 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 2: just massive and had millions and millions of people online 904 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 2: when we did them, one in particular at the University 905 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 2: of Georgia where we had five thousand people show up, 906 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 2: and I turned to my team, I said, guys, this 907 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 2: is not normal, Like, this is not anything I've seen before. 908 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 2: I think we might win, and I think might win 909 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 2: really big and win with young people. Same at Penn 910 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 2: State we had thirty five hundred young people Arizona State University. 911 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 2: I mean, we were all across the country and so 912 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 2: it all makes sense now that the dust is settled. 913 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,839 Speaker 2: But i'd be lying to you, claive. I didn't say 914 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 2: that they didn't have any some anxiety and on ease. 915 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 2: We are up against the most powerful thing ever to exist. 916 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 2: I mean, look what they did, the Trump They try 917 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 2: to put them in prison for seven hundred years. They 918 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 2: lied this mirror, they slandered, they censored, and the American 919 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 2: people defeated that. And even to the very end, I 920 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 2: was a little bit paranoid. I'll acknowledge it because we've 921 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 2: kind of been beaten into submission the last couple of 922 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 2: years that can we really win and is there going 923 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 2: to be shenanigans? Is there going to be tom foolery. 924 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 2: And so I'm not surprised by how what we do 925 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 2: with young men, but pleasantly surprised at the let's just say, 926 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 2: the common sense of the American people. 927 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: Well, look, the work you did was tremendously important. And 928 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: I actually think, and I don't know if you're picking 929 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: up on this, but I've got a sixteen or fourteen 930 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: and a ten year old. I think the generation that 931 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: hasn't even voted yet is going to be more anti 932 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: woke than even the people that have started voting already. 933 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 2: Correct, and the left is showing almost no course correction 934 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 2: and almost no remorse. I mean, there's some elements of that, 935 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 2: but the more they lean into this, the more that 936 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,720 Speaker 2: they continue to be part of the more radical portions 937 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 2: of their party, just opens up a great opportunity for us. 938 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 2: I am seeing that Clay big time. I think that 939 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 2: gen Z and whatever after them, Jen Alpha, it's going 940 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 2: to be some of the most conservative generations in history. 941 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 2: And who would have thought it. 942 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 3: Right? 943 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 2: We were told that the young people are all Marxists 944 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 2: and there's only going to be you know, let's say, 945 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 2: radical things to come. But President Trump won the youth 946 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 2: vote in Michigan, nearly one at Wisconsin, nearly one it 947 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, and that was one of the key ingredients 948 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 2: to his victory. 949 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 1: I know you're busy. I appreciate you coming on. Last 950 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: question for you. If somebody's never been to an Oregon 951 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: Ducks game, what are they missing? 952 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what I got trolled online because 953 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 2: I wore earplugs at Austin Stadium. Be ready to lose 954 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 2: your hearing. I could not hear for days after even 955 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 2: with the earplugs, and I'll tell you it's like one 956 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five decibels. I don't want to make 957 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 2: any predictions, but I think Oregon is going to do 958 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 2: very very well against Washington this weekend. Go twelve and zero. 959 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 2: That is going to be a trench fight in Indianapolis 960 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 2: against Ohio State, I don't know. I think Ohio State 961 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 2: might take this one and then we'll see him again 962 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,479 Speaker 2: in the playoff. I can make a really good argument, though, 963 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 2: based on the current Kings big configuration. I'm sure you 964 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 2: broke this down play. Being the one seed is actually 965 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 2: not the best thing based on the current way the 966 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 2: bracket is forming, where you actually might get a better 967 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 2: placement to be a four or five seed, host a 968 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 2: home game at home, a five seed, you know, host 969 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 2: at Austin, get some momentum heading into the bowl series 970 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 2: in late December. 971 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 1: You just hit on it. I think having the five 972 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: seed in the College Football Playoff is the best spot. 973 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: By the way, potentially Boise State getting the four two 974 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: so you get a home game then you would. Yeah, 975 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: Oregon already beat him. Good luck to the Ducks, not 976 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: too much luck if they play My University of Tennessee volunteers, Charlie, 977 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: really appreciate the work. Keep up all the outstanding stuff. 978 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: You guys are doing. A turning point. 979 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,919 Speaker 2: Great to see it. Thanks Clay touch to Sham. 980 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is, by the way, I think incredibly important 981 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: in terms of what I am seeing as a cultural realignment. 982 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: I think this show has been very helpful for that 983 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 1: because I think Buck and I can speak to a 984 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: younger generation. We're not super old relative to media. I 985 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: think OutKick has, I think Joe Rogan has. I think 986 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: he mentioned THEO Vaughn. I think there are a lot 987 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: of different outlets that speak to a predominantly male audience 988 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: that are seeing the profound disconnect that exists for these 989 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: young guys. And I mentioned this, but I do think 990 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: it's important you know. Target stock dropped twenty one percent 991 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: the other day. I don't know how many of you 992 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: saw that after Target missed its earnings. I think a 993 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: lot of moms and dads when they had the tuck 994 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: bathing suits and they were like, hey, we want your 995 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: young kids pretending to be different genders. And you're saying, 996 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 1: I just want to go to Target and get a 997 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: good value on the products that I need from my home. 998 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: I think a lot of you turned away from Target, 999 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know how many of you saw that 1000 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: Walmart officially announced they're done with DEI I don't shop much. 1001 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: This is not going to shock you. For those of 1002 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: you who see the clothes that I wear. Basically I 1003 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: go to Costco. Otherwise I buy almost nothing. I don't 1004 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: think I talked about this. I went with my wife 1005 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: because we had to buy chairs to go sit and 1006 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: watch our sons on the sideline of games, and we 1007 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: needed new chairs, and so I went with her to Walmart. Recently, 1008 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: I walked in that place and I felt like I 1009 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: was like an immigrant who didn't realize how amazing America was. 1010 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: You know a lot of times people who moved from 1011 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: foreign countries. I remember one of my buddies said that 1012 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: his dad had come from India, and I got two 1013 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: good stories about this. Dad came from India where almost 1014 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: no one had a television, and he walked into an 1015 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: electronics store in America and the like. The fact that 1016 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,919 Speaker 1: you could just walk in and have a normal job 1017 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: and buy a television blew his mind. Really, there is 1018 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: a value. I've argued this for years. If we made 1019 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: every high school graduate in America, certainly every college graduate, 1020 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: but if we made every high school graduate in America 1021 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: have to go overseas and live in a poor country 1022 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: for a year, you would kiss the ground when you 1023 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: got off the airplane to come back here. Because so 1024 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: many of the people who denigrate America have no idea 1025 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: what the rest of the world is like, and how 1026 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: incredibly thankful we all should be in this week, of 1027 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: all weeks, that we get to live in America. But 1028 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: that bank of televisions that was for an immigrant population 1029 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: could not believe just how sheer amount of wealth that 1030 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: existed here. The other one was I've got a friend 1031 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: recently and he was talking about his dad coming here 1032 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: and his dad being upset that people were taking ubers everywhere, 1033 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 1: and he told me his dad went off on him recently. 1034 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, couldn't afford cars, and now you 1035 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: kids are so spoiled that you're like, Oh, I don't 1036 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: want to have to drive my car and it's gonna 1037 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: be hard to find a parking place for my car. 1038 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: And I want to be able to go out to 1039 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: the bar or go out to dinner and just get 1040 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: dropped off right in front, and I'm gonna pay somebody 1041 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: to do that. He's like, Americans are so spoiled that 1042 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: we won't even drive our cars anymore because it's too 1043 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: difficult to have to park them when we can get 1044 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 1: dropped off directly in front of the place that we're 1045 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: going to go. And I just thought both of those 1046 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 1: stories were really interesting, and it tied in with somebody's 1047 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: got to see the world through somebody else's perspective and 1048 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 1: try to do your best to think about the larger 1049 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 1: landscape of America. There's three hundred and thirty million people here. 1050 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 1: What have we got seven eight billion people in the world. 1051 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Everybody's got different perspectives. I told this story my ten 1052 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: year old walked into Target. This is like four years ago, 1053 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: so he's fourteen now. But he wanted to get I 1054 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: think we were getting football cards. Loves to get football cards. 1055 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Walked in the whole front of Target where we live 1056 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: in Franklin, Tennessee. It's not exactly you know, left wing 1057 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 1: America Williamson County, Tennessee. Where I live, very dark red area. 1058 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Whole front of Target in Franklin, Tennessee is all girl 1059 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Power shirts. And he walked in to me. I don't 1060 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: even notice that stuff because I'm so used to it. 1061 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: But he walked in and he said, Dad, they would 1062 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 1: never sell boy power shirts. And I thought to myself, 1063 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting now if you're young. We 1064 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: were just talking to Charlie Kirk about this, if you're 1065 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 1: a young man, or if you are raising young men 1066 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: like I am, they basically have been taught for their 1067 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 1: whole lives that they're the reason why everything in America 1068 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 1: is not perfect. And it's not just white men, not 1069 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: just white boys. It's now expanded Asian, Hispanic, black, white 1070 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,479 Speaker 1: young kids out there. Boys are being told, hey, you're 1071 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: toxic because you're masculine, and they're rebelling against it because 1072 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 1: they don't believe it and they know they're being lied to. 1073 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: And you know who also is rebelling against it. A 1074 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: lot of you moms out there who are raising boys 1075 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: like you don't want weak men, You don't want to 1076 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: raise poor husbands like. It's an insult to you too, 1077 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: which is why the most successful ad that was run 1078 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: during the presidential campaign was that they them. If you 1079 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: watch football, you saw this ad all the time. Kamala 1080 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: is for them, Trump is for us, Trump is for you, 1081 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Trump is for you was the line. You know who 1082 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: wrote that ad. I know him because he's one of 1083 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 1: my buddies from school. A Ukrainian immigrant wrote that ad 1084 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: for Trump. He came from Ukraine, saw that and said, 1085 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: that speaks to the audience out there. Do you know 1086 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 1: who that audience spoke to? That ad spoke to the best. 1087 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 1: Fascinating Hispanic men, black men, white moms in the suburbs 1088 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 1: all tested off the charts on that ad. Think about that. 1089 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Black men, Hispanic men, white moms in the suburbs. They 1090 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: were all like, uh uh, this is bs. It's a 1091 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 1: real thing. This tide is only going to grow. I 1092 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: really do believe, and I want to tell you one 1093 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: reason the Tide's growings because we got some educational institutions 1094 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 1: that are actually doing a good job speaking to the 1095 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: American public on a day to day basis, like Hillsdale College. 1096 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 1: Back in April, I went out to Hillsdale College and 1097 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 1: I was their keynote speaker at an event they did 1098 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: in Seattle. I sat next to their president, doctor Larry 1099 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: arn I love the guy. 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