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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. Thanks Duck is the best

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Speaker 1: type of meat out there, erroneous. Welcome back to another

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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast presented by New Era.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I'm joined in a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What is up, boys? Hey? Dan? Well d G. I

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Speaker 1: am when I mean it, Yes, I will not. You

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Speaker 1: are looking at me as if I'm supposed to say

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Speaker 1: something to nothing to say. One day away from getting

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Speaker 1: on that plane, have you guys like started packing or

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Speaker 1: preparing it all? Uh? No, We are leaving for London

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and I have a lot of work to do,

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Speaker 1: both from packing but also clerical work that I have

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Speaker 1: to get taken care of right after today's show. And

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. What about you, guys? I

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Speaker 1: went out yesterday, um, took a little trip to and

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Speaker 1: also Ralph's to buy an assortment of toiletries to refresh

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Speaker 1: that dub kid um because we're gonna be gone formart

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Speaker 1: for a while. Smart. Yeah, We're gonna be done like

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Speaker 1: nine days. How about us? For the first time ever?

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Speaker 1: It was an off day yesterday along with Mark, but

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Speaker 1: I got my beard trimmed professionally for the first time.

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Speaker 1: That is that is good prep wow, fancy If you

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Speaker 1: guys can get quapped upstairs, I can get trimmed down Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell me more downstairs. Um. Yes, the Big Trip is

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Speaker 1: coming to London. It's it's less than twenty four hours away. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And as you know over in the UK, we have

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Speaker 1: a live show on Tuesday that listen a little little

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Speaker 1: cool leg you know, edgy radiohead ticket releases. We dropped

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Speaker 1: our limited tickets available live show on Tuesday. Scooped up

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Speaker 1: almost immediately, even though it was the middle of the night.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people would have you, um from

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Speaker 1: to say, view that as an edgy radio head type maneuver.

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Speaker 1: The response was less than well, what's the difference? Though?

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Speaker 1: the night. Those are our kind of people, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be making some noise. I mean to not have

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Speaker 1: of you know, social media and mentions and whatnot. That's

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Speaker 1: how um. So, yes, we're very excited. We're also going

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Speaker 1: go forward, do it every night. That sounds good. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Today's show is part two of our view of you know,

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Speaker 1: our above the tree tops view to the borrow a

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Speaker 1: I'll get it going. The Rams. Yes, they've done a

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Speaker 1: because they might be too good the head coach. I

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Speaker 1: like Sean Payton. Actually see I talked to Sean Payton

430
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Speaker 1: at the combine and told him you were just gonna

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl and he's like, oh, thanks man,

432
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Speaker 1: and then he just kept walking. But it was like,

433
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Speaker 1: all right, that kind of linked me with the Saints

434
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Speaker 1: in a very vague, non real way. But anyways, my

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Speaker 1: point would be this, It is similar to the Rams

436
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Speaker 1: because I look at the Saints as a super complete

437
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Speaker 1: team and that's not like there were years when it

438
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Speaker 1: was so we love the offense, but the defense is

439
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Speaker 1: going to shipwrecked this team. Year after years they have

440
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Speaker 1: to score thirty five points again. They got pieces on

441
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Speaker 1: defense now. So it's a similar to the question of

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Speaker 1: the Rams. When it comes to the Achilles hell, where

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Speaker 1: do you look at the Saints and say, in a

444
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Speaker 1: rugged NFC you're going down because of this reason front

445
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Speaker 1: seven I I maybe it's didn't we come off last,

446
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it's muscle memory, But I'm not that like they

447
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: have six different starting middle linebackers that they're just putting

448
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: that different positions. They have Cameron Jordan's but the rest

449
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Speaker 1: of the defensive line, I think it's fair to at

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Speaker 1: least question, uh. And and they were better on defense,

451
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Speaker 1: but they were relying on turnovers. I don't it's not

452
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Speaker 1: like they're a difference maker. Maybe it's just seeing them

453
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Speaker 1: year after year, I don't quite trust them to how

454
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Speaker 1: about how about last year was such a different offense

455
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Speaker 1: for them and an incredible year for the backfield where

456
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Speaker 1: you got three thousand yards between Kamara and Ingram And

457
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Speaker 1: now Ingram suspended and Kamara maybe he'll be able to

458
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Speaker 1: pick up the slack and be just as good as

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Speaker 1: he was as a rookie. But also the same thing

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Speaker 1: with the Rams. Are they gonna be able to average

461
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Speaker 1: thirty points game? Maybe? But maybe not? Uh? Can you

462
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Speaker 1: really expect that same level of production? And then at

463
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Speaker 1: the quarterback, I don't. I'm out of this game because

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Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterbacks and how long they play.

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Speaker 1: But like, he's another year older Drew Brees, and I

466
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Speaker 1: know he played well last year, but it's fair to

467
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Speaker 1: wonder if the burden has increased on the forty year

468
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Speaker 1: old quarterback, could he handle it? Is he Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: or is he Tom Brady. I think Mark's original question

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Speaker 1: speaks to Marcus Davenport as one of the most crucial

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Speaker 1: rookies in the NFL this year that you gave up

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Speaker 1: next year's first round pick because you saw this guy

473
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Speaker 1: is the missing link to your to your super Bowl

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Speaker 1: title hopes. And if this front seven is gonna work,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna need that outside edge rusher. Cameron Jordan's bringing

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure from the front, but they need

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Speaker 1: that outside got to crash the pocket. The one thing

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Speaker 1: on the Ingram four game band. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's always the worst thing in the planet for a

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Speaker 1: team to come back in week five totally fresh. It

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Speaker 1: was great for Tom Brady. I always thought it was

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Speaker 1: like one of the underrated parts of that entire season.

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Speaker 1: They might find a guy like Jonathan Williams can play

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Speaker 1: in his absence. Old for being maybe the most exciting

485
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Speaker 1: offensive player to edge. It's kind of we haven't really

486
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Speaker 1: talked about him that. I'm excited to see year two

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Speaker 1: one done. Quick aside before we move on. They disdain us.

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Speaker 1: They absolutely fans of our podcast, um one quick Aside.

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Speaker 1: Uh my good buddy Bob who works in Tinseltown Costrow

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Speaker 1: Entertainment business working on a show that comprises some type

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Speaker 1: of reality dating component based in Vegas. Bob reached out

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Speaker 1: to me about whether spice Rack would be interested in

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Speaker 1: being on a reality dating show. I would pay to

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Speaker 1: watch that. That would be good. I reached out to

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Speaker 1: spice Rack and was absolutely stunned to learn that the

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Speaker 1: man has been dating a woman and living with a

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Speaker 1: woman for four years. What so he declined it. He declined.

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Speaker 1: The opportunity for spice Rack is shocked up. I think

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Speaker 1: ladies hands off the we had a girlfriend because spice

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Speaker 1: Rack and I have been quietly helping. I've taken it

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Speaker 1: back a weird friend and I did know we had

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Speaker 1: a girlfriend. Emma, no more d ms, spice you got

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Speaker 1: the mark. One question of when it comes to Bob

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Speaker 1: in Tinseltown, does he have a twitter burner account like

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Speaker 1: Erica does where she calls herself Ricky Hollywood. She probably

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Speaker 1: should move away from that. All right, let's get back

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Speaker 1: into it. The Carolina Panthers Chris Wesley. The Panthers have

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Speaker 1: some luck factors going against him this this year. They

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Speaker 1: were eight and one in close games last year and

510
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Speaker 1: they had ridiculous fumble luck. Usually analytics tell us that

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Speaker 1: evens out if you were yeah, well, yeah, deep deep

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Speaker 1: search tells us I don't like this term at all,

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Speaker 1: that that that won't happen. You can't count on that.

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Speaker 1: So they're already behind that. They went twenty they've been

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Speaker 1: twenty five and two since Cam got there when he

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Speaker 1: has passer rating. Their two losses, according to Football Outsiders,

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Speaker 1: were last year, both to the Saints. They finished this

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Speaker 1: season New Orleans, Atlanta at New Orleans in December. To me,

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Speaker 1: the pain it there's can't be expected to repeat last

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Speaker 1: year's playoff run because of those factors working against them,

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Speaker 1: the end of the schedule and the luck factor, the

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Speaker 1: randomness factor which will probably work against him this Hue

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Speaker 1: Mark and I were talking downstairs. It's almost like one

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Speaker 1: of those three and a f C NFC South teams

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Speaker 1: has to fall hard. They can't stay all at that level. Logically,

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Speaker 1: the Panthers have the have the best case for being

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Speaker 1: that team that that does fall off. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It's it's easy right now to just kind of shovel

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Speaker 1: teams into the wild card spot and say we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get another three from the South, and its history tells

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Speaker 1: us that will get completely blown up and not be

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Speaker 1: the case. And this isn't the Panthers defense of a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. It's it's not the same unit.

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Speaker 1: But I do still see them as a team that

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Speaker 1: could probably beat almost anyone in a given week with

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Speaker 1: some of their some of the skill position players. I

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Speaker 1: think their skill position talent is way better, and their

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator should be better. I like the idea, don't

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Speaker 1: care about I just like the idea of given Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton a new shot. Shack Thompson was one guy that

541
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Speaker 1: really kind of jumped off the screen in the preseason

542
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Speaker 1: who had never really had that breakout. He's replacing Thomas

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Speaker 1: Davis for four games on the field every snap, and

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Speaker 1: like just the way they're talking about him, the way

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Speaker 1: he looked, it looked like he might be kind of

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Speaker 1: ready to take that spot. Can you play left tackle?

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Speaker 1: Because the offensive line is a big problem right now.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton with North Turner probably not a U completion decentage.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe norv does does find something new with and

550
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Speaker 1: and and there's somewhere some way to improve his game

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Speaker 1: that the previous coordinator that was there forever didn't think

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Speaker 1: to look under a certain rock. And then Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he looks great in the place.

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Speaker 1: What if Christian McCaffrey becomes one of the top three

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Speaker 1: running backs in the NFC, and then Cam Newton gets

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Speaker 1: better under Norv Turner, as you know in a Jim

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Speaker 1: Bob Cooter d J. Moore. I think that's a big

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Speaker 1: add to this. I wouldn't assume they're the team that's

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Speaker 1: gonna if Cam misses two games because he goes head

560
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Speaker 1: first into like a pile, and you know they're starting

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Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke and then the season. I'm not saying Norm

562
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Speaker 1: is doomed to failure, but the last three teams that

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Speaker 1: got rid of him getting better, including last year's Viking,

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Speaker 1: You're deaf my favorite. But that was good alright. The

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Speaker 1: Falcons per Football Outsiders, Falcons dropped from first to ninth

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Speaker 1: and offensive d v o A last season, second in

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Speaker 1: yards per drive, seventh and points per drive, which is good.

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Speaker 1: Those are very good numbers. Uh They had the fewest

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Speaker 1: possessions in the league, which is weird and probably not repeatable.

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Speaker 1: Uh So you've got to think about that and how

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Speaker 1: they can improve. It helps to explain why they're scoring

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Speaker 1: average drops so much. But that wasn't the biggest issue.

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Speaker 1: The biggest issue was how terrible they were in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. They ranked nineteen in red zone passing d

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Speaker 1: v o AI and red zone running d v o AYE,

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Speaker 1: and total red zone. They were one of the worst

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Speaker 1: teams in football in the red zone. Inexcusable and that

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Speaker 1: goes back to coaching, and that takes us to offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Steve Sarkasian. Um it is fitting that their defense

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Speaker 1: their offense failed for straight plays to end their season

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Speaker 1: against the Eagles, and I think what this season is

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Speaker 1: about given their talent level. Uh, Sarkasian's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, but he has to improve his scheme to

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Speaker 1: maximize what's an embarrassment of Richard Riches in Atlanta. My

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Speaker 1: question will Stark learn from his failures or will the

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Speaker 1: Falcons rue their decision to give their embattled o s

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Speaker 1: another bite at the apple. I would point to the

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Speaker 1: first year under Kyl Shanahan, where they were not what

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Speaker 1: we remember Under Kyl Shanahan. They they had their issues

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Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan, who spent most of his career in

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Speaker 1: the same offense over and over, that was a period

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Speaker 1: of adjustment. Now the shift to Sarkasian's offense was not

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Speaker 1: as drastic on any level, used a lot of the

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Speaker 1: same stuff. I think they're gonna be okay. I think

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, they have a lot

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Speaker 1: of team speed and those red zone numbers by definition

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Speaker 1: will probably go up. I think adding Calvin Ridley to

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Speaker 1: the mixed wide receiver, you've got a diverse backfield. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's not to like about this offense. I

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Speaker 1: think Hooper is gonna have a huge year at tight

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Speaker 1: end as well. That's not the it's not the skill,

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Speaker 1: the skill talent, the talent level, and adding Ridley should help.

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Speaker 1: You never know what the rookie wide receiver. But like,

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Speaker 1: is sarkas and the guy or is he gonna hold

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Speaker 1: this team back because he held them back last year?

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Speaker 1: But that's execution two on the in the red zone.

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00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: It's not just on the coach. But I would say

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Speaker 1: they're probably will get better under him versus just worse.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have a better option, and they apparently didn't

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Speaker 1: think that that there was one out there. There an

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00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: interesting case for like continuity because other than Ridley, this

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Speaker 1: is just the same team. This has been basically the

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Speaker 1: same team and I think that's great. I like seeing

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Speaker 1: that occasionally in the NFL, like this is this should

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Speaker 1: be a year and one of their guys that's been there.

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Speaker 1: Vic Beasley to me is the X factor because he

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Speaker 1: went from a defensive m VP candidate to a liability.

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Speaker 1: So what is he going to be this year? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think when we look at their roster, we always

620
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Speaker 1: point the sark because where are the weaknesses? And Vic

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Speaker 1: Beasley is won. He went from being a guy going

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Speaker 1: for the SEC leadership to a guy who disappeared last year.

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Speaker 1: And also, special teams have to be better. They were

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Speaker 1: not good on special teams last year and they have

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Speaker 1: one of the toughest schedules in the league this year,

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Speaker 1: so those are more problems for the They're so drama three,

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Speaker 1: like they almost had no position battles. They just like

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Speaker 1: showed up. They kind of know what their team, which

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Speaker 1: is boring until you're twelve and four four three final?

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Speaker 1: Where goes to Mark there? Yeah? Mark, you're really gonna

631
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Speaker 1: have to pick up the pace here. That's probably not

632
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Speaker 1: done true the Tampa Bay Schnucks Greg Rosenthal, I'm gonna

633
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: get excited to watch this Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense when

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston comes back. But the takeaway from me coming

635
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: out of training camp was that Ronald Jones is probably

636
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Speaker 1: not going to be the guy to put them over

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Speaker 1: the top during his rookie season at running back with

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Speaker 1: we haven't talked about him really, but basically, he's struggled

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Speaker 1: so much. He hadn't gained yards, He's struggled in the

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Speaker 1: passing game. The coaches don't seem in love with him.

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Speaker 1: That he's probably gonna start the year behind Peyton Barber

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Speaker 1: and Quiz Rodgers, and so he's not really in the mix,

643
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Speaker 1: and they were hoping that would give them a little

644
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Speaker 1: extra juice, a little more balanced because I think this

645
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: could be one of the most highest yardage passing teams

646
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: in the league. They were really pretty good last year

647
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Speaker 1: on offense. If the defense had just been even average,

648
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: I think they have enough on offense at least to

649
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Speaker 1: get it done. But Ronald Jones isn't gonna be helping

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Speaker 1: them out. He was beloved by draft Knicks too, so

651
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just another reminder, no matter what you

652
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Speaker 1: do in college, you don't know most of these guys

653
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Speaker 1: until they take the field in the NFL and I'm

654
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: not saying he's gonna have a bad career, but you're

655
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Speaker 1: certainly not expecting a big September and October out of this.

656
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: It's also funny because people say, oh, you can find

657
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: running backs anywhere, don't take him too high, and they

658
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Speaker 1: took him at the end of the second with their

659
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Speaker 1: third second round pick, I believe, or at the top

660
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Speaker 1: of the second. Rather, it's like, no, you can't. Yeah,

661
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: you can find them anywhere, but plenty of them don't

662
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: turn out to be that good. You have to it's

663
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: hard to find. This is the team that I spent

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Speaker 1: most of the offseason just ticketing for like a two

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Speaker 1: and fourteen campaign and not to pull too much from

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Speaker 1: the prese like that is getting getting tired of saying that. Anyways,

667
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Speaker 1: the preseason is what it is. Have a nice time

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Speaker 1: with yourselves. But like they rolled over the Lions. They

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Speaker 1: decimated the Lions with their starting offense a couple of

670
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Speaker 1: weeks ago. No, but it just it made me think,

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Speaker 1: like you think a certain way about a team for

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00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: months and months, and every time you discussed the Bucks,

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Speaker 1: it's an epic disaster. The coaches can be gone by Halloween.

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00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't know I mean the offense to me, has

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Speaker 1: a lot of parts, so a lot of the same parts.

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Speaker 1: The reason that we felt for them last offseason, they

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Speaker 1: are there and they actually produced on offense. They trashed

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Speaker 1: the Saints defense in Week seventeen in the game the

679
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: Saints desperately wanted and that's almost like Sam Bradford game

680
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Speaker 1: at this point, and we haven't mentioned even the defense.

681
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul Jason Pierre Paus reportedly had a great

682
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: preseason and they did bulk up on the defensive line.

683
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: They should be better upfront. Maybe because last year this

684
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: time everyone was taking the bucks. Is the next team

685
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: to rise in the NFC? Now people have gone maybe

686
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: too far the other way. Maybe they're not as bad

687
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: as everyone is, just taking the big and they'll be

688
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: again a tough, very tough NFC. I don't think they're

689
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: gonna be necessarily fighting for that division or a playoff spot.

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Speaker 1: But could they be competitive and win around eight games,

691
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: I would not think that would be insane. I feel

692
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: like every team in the NFC is about to go

693
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Speaker 1: eleven and five. Someone they need to get a win.

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00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: They could really use a win in the Ryan Fitzpatrick games,

695
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: which are really tough because if you start, oh in three,

696
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Speaker 1: it's like your season's over. They really need to get

697
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: what is that schedule out of the time for them. Saints, Eagles, Steelers,

698
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Speaker 1: Bears are not going to be in many games the Bucks,

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Speaker 1: am I right next? So Eric not compelled with the

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Speaker 1: evidence we provided about a potential middle of the road season.

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Speaker 1: All right, we pause. It's halftime, folks. Everybody get your gatorade,

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00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: drink your eat your orange slices, check your phones. Mark

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00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: break out that Lacroix get do not do that? I

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Speaker 1: had some lemon Lacroix, I gotta say, since we're here,

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Speaker 1: since Greg brought it up um and doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: same tang and bite that lime Lacroix does. Still a

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Speaker 1: big leader in the club, a fan in general. And

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Speaker 1: Mark pez Evento, who's a big time shadowy league figure.

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Speaker 1: Uh here at the NFL. He introduced me to Bubbly,

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00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: a new product that has a cherry flavor, which is

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00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: no it's also sparkling water. Really nice kick to it,

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Speaker 1: and I might be ready to leave Lacroix for Bubbly,

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Speaker 1: but I don't want to make the announcement yet. Well,

714
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: typically whenever when these probably should be giving us money

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00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: or at least some bubbly comes out of your tap.

716
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: Just drink it. When these campaigns are unfurled, it comes

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Speaker 1: out of the whale bubbles in my sentence out dan

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00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: Is typically Typically all this comes down to is Dan

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00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: Is on a sneaky long range plot to get boxes

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Speaker 1: of Lacroix sent. It's always product that needs to be

721
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: sent by this phantom straw man company that he's pitching

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Speaker 1: with McRoy or hair gel. He got a box of

723
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Speaker 1: hair gelve of them with anyone, just took it right

724
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: home to it. Think it could work? Why are you?

725
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: Why are you down on it? That is not my goal.

726
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: But when people absolutely you know why because I speak

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Speaker 1: passionately about the products that I love and these people

728
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Speaker 1: pick up on it. And that's why I get these

729
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: things said to me. This is not I'm speaking from

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Speaker 1: the heart. Bro Well, you could care less about Lacroix

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00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: twelve days ago and now it's it's I just didn't

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Speaker 1: speak on it until the other day. By the way,

733
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Speaker 1: because we're creeping up to that sick that's right. To

734
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: help Greg out here, all right, here we go, Mark,

735
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: it's time for you to ban some more words. I

736
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: am going to ban words and the only people that

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: are allowed to say these words are Emma VP and

738
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: Erica because they are completely uncontrollable and I'm not going

739
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: to attempt to settle it rain them in on any level.

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00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: These are too too phrases. Number one, these are these

741
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: are things you'll see in print. Often on Twitter in

742
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: response to a story, there's typically retweeting something that's that's

743
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: going viral or what is what is you call something

744
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: that's not totally viral, Emma Minivia, it's going mini via potentially.

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Speaker 1: But the first thing, when it's a touchy 's really

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00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: touching type thing involving often a child, you'll get all

747
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: these people retweeting and sane, I'm not crying, you're crying. Okay,

748
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: that's I don't care where it came from. I don't

749
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: need to see that on Twitter every time something happen,

750
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. It's it's it's like above a thing,

751
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: and it's not that it's one person, come that, it's

752
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: eighty eight people in a row. I'm not crying, you're crying.

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00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: And then this is often attached to what absolutely needs

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00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: to go and be deep six and I don't even

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00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: think that Emma would want to say this. Typically she's

756
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: too creative. All the fields? What get rid of that?

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00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: Right now? All the fields? All the fields is a response.

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00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: We've seen all the fields when a heartwarming all the field,

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00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: every feeling in the spectrum of emotions are currently system. Yeah,

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00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna be like a tough ask for any

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00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: of us to get rid of. But but you're saying, society,

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Speaker 1: I don't need it. I don't need it, I don't

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00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,479
Speaker 1: need writing all the fields anyway, Thank you, thank you West,

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Speaker 1: thank you for that you're compiling what essentially is a

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00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: band dictionary. Not every one of these are maybe grand

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00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: slams out of the park that the band dictionary. This

767
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: is like nineteen twenties Russia or something. My my one

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00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: takeaway from this exercise that you've had for about a

769
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: week now, is it you're basically asking for originality from people. Yes,

770
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: or that you shaid quit you know, quit you know,

771
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: flirting with it and just quit Twitter well, or or

772
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: we should have a better monitor. It's like, I understand

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00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: All the Fields was funny for like a week. Maybe

774
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying to me, but to some but it's

775
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: like like or a year two of this still being

776
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: thrown about, and it's a tired jargon. When it becomes tired,

777
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: and it wasn't funny to begin with. You have got

778
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: to have the self control not to lean on that phrase. Please,

779
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: MV has the only non old here. What what is

780
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Speaker 1: your take? Both super lam would never say broadcast is

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Speaker 1: not endorsed. Thank thank you. There we're on the same

782
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Speaker 1: page now we feel I feel better about myself now

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Speaker 1: that Emma has okay suddenly, like a short order cook

784
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: in the South there, I like that. And on the

785
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: subject of things that should be banned, Roberto Oguayo to

786
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: win it on the last play six yards. He does,

787
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: so the Chargers take the last preseason game. On the

788
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: final check, Roberto Oguio puts it through and the Chargers

789
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: win the game. Twenty three banned that man from broadcasting.

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00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: Do you under stand the importance in robbi Oguya's life

791
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: to hit a game ending field goal? I don't care

792
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: if it's the fourth preseason gamesouncer, it doesn't matter who

793
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: it is. You have to understand the stakes of what

794
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: Roberto Oguayo has been through since being the second round

795
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: pick of the Bucks the way he's floundered, the challenges

796
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: that he's been uh met with, and what he's overcome

797
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: to being now on a dead heat with Caleb Sturgis

798
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: for the for the Kicker Crown for the Chargers, and

799
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: and just wait watch the Chargers make the wrong decision

800
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: and and keep Aguayo and then Guya kills him. But

801
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: that's for later. For this moment right now, he deserved

802
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: a really spirited call and he got banged in a

803
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: big How about could you give us just a quick

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00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: glimpse into how you might have called um that final

805
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: moment in the game. I'd be screaming my balls off, Sessler.

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00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense. I agree with you, And

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00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: yet on some level it does make sense. For the

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00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: lowest energy possible call would be to be the road

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00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: announcer on a game winning field goal for the other

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00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: team in the fourth week of the prese. Just that's

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Speaker 1: lower entergy. It's not asking for much here. I agree

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Speaker 1: with Dan. I do Roberto can rise to the occasion

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00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: the least you know what it says to me. Somebody

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Speaker 1: didn't do their search. By the way, that has to

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Speaker 1: Second half begins with the old ZUSA in the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings are the defending division champions. Oh isn't that nice?

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Speaker 1: And uh, they've upgraded their quarterback situation. They have Kirk Cousins.

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00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: Of course, they're absolutely loaded on defense. What what a unit?

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Speaker 1: They have several elite playmakers on offense or getting back

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00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: I shake this feeling that this team, in this fan

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Speaker 1: base is like so many of those birds outside US

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Speaker 1: do I have a terrible feeling about the two thousand

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Speaker 1: eighteen Vikings? And maybe there's no way to quant a

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00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,960
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Speaker 1: anybody else just have a bad billion this loaded NFC

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Speaker 1: pencil in like the five great looking teams all back

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs and with no real reason beside that

852
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 1: the offensive line is banged up. Didn't look great maybe

853
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: to begin with, and Kirk Cousins behind a bad offensive

854
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: line doesn't get me excited. They were the team I

855
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: picked to be on the outside looking in. Now that

856
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: might be at nine and seven missed the playoffs, or

857
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: at ten and six, but that that was what I'm

858
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: picking is them not to make them what they have

859
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: on paper, especially when you look at the defensive roster,

860
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: that would be an epic collapse for them not to

861
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: make it. But sometimes the issues are internal or their external,

862
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: and for me, there's a couple external A. It's the

863
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: rest of the NFC, which gets you know, we've been

864
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: talking about that the whole show. But you got Aaron

865
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: Rodgers back in Green Bay. You're not going to sail

866
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: through that division the way you did last year. I mean,

867
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: I think Chicago and Detroit, at least Chicago's seems like

868
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: they could put up a little bit more of a

869
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: fight like it's it. Last year everything sort of went

870
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: right for the Vikings. Instead of with the fact that

871
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: here's where I liked them. It didn't out of the gate.

872
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: They had quarterback chaos, the had to deal with a

873
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: lot of quarterback turnover. They lost Dalvin Cook. You're getting

874
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: him back, so you can make an argument that they're

875
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: even strong or even more stars studded on on offense.

876
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: So for them to go nine and seven and be

877
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: left on the outside, that would be one of the

878
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: biggest collapses we've seen any team in years. Yeah, I

879
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: can't get on board with the negativity here. The one

880
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: thing I think that separates the Vikings from all the

881
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: other NFC contenders is that every single meaningful player is

882
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: in the prime of his career. Who's who's toeing the

883
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: cliff here, who's on the verge of retirement, who's an

884
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: injury risk because he's over thirty? Everyone is in like

885
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: that twenty four where that you know they lost the

886
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: guard for the season, one of their starters, pad outfly

887
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: in the center has been hurt. But you're right that

888
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: the continuity, the fact that the defense, no, they all

889
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: know that system so well. Mike us their first round

890
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: pick might kind of buck the trend and be a

891
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: rookie starter on that team as a slot guy. But

892
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: I view that as a positive that he obviously looks

893
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: great to to play so quickly for a defense this good.

894
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: You're right, they're all in their prime. It should be good,

895
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Dan quick any of your concerns about Kirk Cousins specific

896
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: ensive line paid a ton of money, A little bit

897
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now that was a banger. I think

898
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: that was one of our better ones. The Detroit Lions.

899
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: The expectation when Matt Patricia goes to the Lions is

900
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: that this is defensive coach. You know you're gonna be

901
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: a defensive team and build your team that way. But

902
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: I look at this roster and it reminds me a

903
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: lot of the Patriots under Matt Patricia, which was a

904
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: highly uh capable quarterback, continuity and a high scoring offense

905
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: and a defense with a ton of questions. I think

906
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: if they're gonna win, they're gonna have to be a

907
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: team that wins the D to five every week. You know,

908
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: they don't have a great looking pass rush on paper.

909
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: Some of their recent draft picks Jared Davis, their first

910
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: round pick from a year ago, I think has been

911
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: a little concerning in the preseason and even last year,

912
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: like they don't really have that benchmark. And then you

913
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: look on the other side of the ball and everyone's

914
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: been around for a while, and then the backfield with

915
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: Blunt and carry on, Johnson and theoretic I love that backfield,

916
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: Like I'm with West that if nothing else, it's gonna

917
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: be a fun team to watch. I think when they're

918
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: playing the Vikings, the Packers like, that's a game that's

919
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: gonna be in the thirties. They're gonna give the Vikings

920
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: defense all they can handle. But I don't know if

921
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: that's a recipe to go that far in this conference. Yeah,

922
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: I think I have a good feeling about the Lions,

923
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: but in this division, in this conference there they don't

924
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: have much margin for air. Like you said, their defense,

925
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: that front seven worries me. I think the secondary might

926
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: be the most underrated in the NFL because Loeb Quinn

927
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: is the most underrated player in the NFL. But who

928
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: was starting opposite Darius Slay. They kind of had the

929
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: same year after year and they were hoping to maybe

930
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: replace him. He Tavers struggled in the preseason. They've had

931
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: some injuries there. It just they've kind of had the

932
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: same issues year after year on that side. Do we

933
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: take anything from the last two games they put on tape?

934
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean again, we talked about the Bucks preseas ripping

935
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: them up, and then last night's game like, sorry, I

936
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: don't actually I don't care. The individual players like Jared Davis,

937
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: the reporters saying he struggled a little bit in practice

938
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: and then he struggled in the preseae that I worry about,

939
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: but not necessarily. There were some starters on the field

940
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: last night on their defense when they got absolutely bombed

941
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: by Cleveland. It was I've never seen a Browns game

942
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: like that. Again, it's preseason that sa I would check

943
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: it out. Like Patricia looks looks to guild on the

944
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: sideline over the last three weeks, he looks steamed. Kenny Golladay,

945
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: a guy ticketed for maybe big things this year. Uh,

946
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: you have Golden Tate, who's a steady guy that doesn't

947
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 1: get a ton of love but always produces. And Marvin Jones,

948
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: who has really been a nice player for them. That's

949
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: pretty good triplet. Yes, is that one of the better triplets?

950
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: Ifaday is who we think is, it's up there. They

951
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: don't have the true like dominant number one, the very

952
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: best of them. It's up there. The Detroit Lions brought

953
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: to you by some l A bozos. Green Bay Packers

954
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley. Over the past half decade, there have been

955
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: two different Packers teams. There have been the Green Bay

956
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: Packers and the Clavical Packers. The Green Bay Packers fell

957
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: because because of the clavical injury, they missed a chance

958
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: to become the first team to tie the record for

959
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: most consecutive playoff appearances with nine. They are five twelve

960
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: and one during Aaron Rodgers absences. This is compared, let's say,

961
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: to the Vikings, who won the division with a backup

962
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: quarterback last year. The Cardinals went five and four with

963
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert and Drew Stanton down the stretch. Other teams

964
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: can survive their backup quarterbacks. But I think this speaks

965
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: to how good Rogers is, how far that wide receiver

966
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: corps has fallen apart when it used to be the

967
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: best in the league, and how bad the defense has been.

968
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: This is not a strong roster. Aaron Rodgers hides a

969
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: lot of problems. UM, mark your boy, Michael Lombardi, UH

970
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: put a report out there or set it on his

971
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: podcast that everyone in the league knows that Randall Cobb

972
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: is out on trade baite he could be potentially cut

973
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: uh this weekend. Uh. That's a pretty precipitous fall by

974
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: a Cobb, and it does highlight kind of what West

975
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: is saying that they don't have the depth that they

976
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: used to have. Well, is what he's He's got a

977
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: high contracts, I think it's almost nine million, and he's

978
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: got lingering concerning ankle issues. So I don't I don't

979
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be trading for him. But this may

980
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: be a Packers team that has to ask Mike Petton's

981
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: defense to do a little bit more than what these

982
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: past defenses have done. And they do have new faces

983
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: on defense. There's a lot to talk about with the

984
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: cornerback position, Jar Alexander, Josh Jackson, Greg's boy, Kenny Clark,

985
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: he was texting about him the other day. He likes

986
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: him up to middlely got Moe Wilkerson, and I think

987
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,959
Speaker 1: that Mike, well, I'm just saying Mike Petton, Well, maybe

988
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: Bill Wilkerson is a one year deal, but Mike Petton

989
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: has more pieces to work with than Dom Capers did,

990
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: and I think the removal of Dom Capers has had

991
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: a nice positive change for the Packers in general. Well,

992
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: and that coach and you had right, you have hope

993
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: that Kevin King who was last year's second round pick,

994
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: and then Alexander and Jackson who both looked really good

995
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: in the preseason. You kind of figure that Mike Patton

996
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: is going to do well with those guys, and then Wilkerson,

997
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: Clark and Mike Daniels. That is a great defensive line.

998
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: We'll see what Wilkerson adds for what it's worth. Mike

999
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: Daniels said, you know, Wilkerson was saying it was the

1000
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: best offseason of his life. He's all motivated to, you know,

1001
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: prove everyone wrong. We'll see if Jackson and Alexander do

1002
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: play a lot in that secondary, they'll probably have the

1003
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: youngest secondary in the NFL, and they can take solos

1004
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: in the fact that the Saints had the youngest secondary

1005
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL last year and turned that defense around.

1006
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: I think Alexander's there starting, Nicol King, who's the second year,

1007
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: is probably starting cornerback. I mean, I think it's a

1008
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: good rafter West. Maybe they have some homes the secondary.

1009
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: You have all pro left tackle. You think it's a

1010
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: good roster. But you're also county on Mo. Wilkerson, who

1011
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: was the subject of a Brian Baldinger scathing tweak for

1012
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: his effort level, looked awful in the preseason year ticket

1013
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: them for the playoffs. I don't know about this year too.

1014
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: I think they're a Super Bowl I'm gonna order a

1015
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: pizza you guys in the Chicago Bears Mark Sessler. So

1016
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: from like an optics standpoint, I can't help. And I

1017
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: understand we all hate the preseason, but this, this last

1018
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: four weeks, like the whole thing. I feel like Mitch Robisky. No, No,

1019
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: I just think that. Am I wrong? Quiet August? And

1020
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: I get that Matt Negi is keeping the playbook under

1021
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: wraps and we're not going to see anything. But I

1022
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: asked a question for you, if you were building a

1023
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: team today, would you take Mitch Robinsky and what you

1024
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: know about him over a season and one month over

1025
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: any of the five rookie quarterbacks to win in the

1026
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: first round. No, I'm just asking where we are with

1027
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: Mitch Robisky, but we don't know yet, right Who do

1028
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: you take him over Lamar Jackson? Easily? So let's remove

1029
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson from the let's see the other for learning

1030
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: from the Jared Goffs situation, I really am giving Mitch

1031
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: Drobisky a bit of a rookie year pass. So I

1032
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: don't know, No, you wouldn't, I wouldn't. I mean, I

1033
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: just feel like this guy still deserves this season to

1034
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: show what he can do with an actual offensive mind,

1035
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: minding the controls behind him and better, better weapons around him.

1036
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: I think he gets that. Okay, so let me It's

1037
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: not just to destroy Mitch Drobisky, but I'm asking it

1038
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: more from you. Have a seasons of worth of work

1039
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: of what you've seen from Mitch Robisky. We've seen what

1040
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield can do in a short sample size. Sam Donald,

1041
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: we love Josh Rosen, Like, would you honestly take Trabisky

1042
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: over all those players? I don't like the question, Like,

1043
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: we don't have enough data to make an informed opinion. Tribisky,

1044
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: you can throw everything that happened last year and that

1045
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: John Fox team totally different. They had a horrible wide

1046
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: receiver corps, Like I don't. I don't think you can

1047
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: take anything from last year or the preseason. We just

1048
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: have to wait. My concern, though, is it's gonna take

1049
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: time for this to come together. People just like slot

1050
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: In Taylor Gabriel as a plus starter, Like, Okay, of

1051
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: course he's gonna do that. He's been hurt. He's about

1052
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: as lightweight and outside starter as in the league. He

1053
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: had three seventy eight yards last year. Let's not assume

1054
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be great. Alan Robinson really didn't show much

1055
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: in the preseason. Is he going to be like a

1056
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: real number one? Like? They have question marks I think

1057
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: beyond Trabisky that make you think it might take a

1058
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: little while to get going. Does I do feel like

1059
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: we'll get a huge season from Trey Burton? He seems

1060
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: to fit in very well with what they're trying to do.

1061
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: If we got a huge season from Trey Burton is

1062
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: probably having a good year. That doesn't guarantee that. But

1063
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: Brokawan Smith is I didn't realize we had like Mit

1064
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: Robisky fanboys. I'm just out on people doubting. It's not

1065
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: just doubting him, I just like I Buzz has been

1066
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: so from the little that we know and just how

1067
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: they were coming out of college. No, I wouldn't take

1068
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: him over any of them. I mean this in this

1069
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: situation specifically, I think the preseason means absolutely nothing. Like

1070
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm just not concerned about Matt Neggie not even actually

1071
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: using his offense in the pretty season and then trying

1072
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: to judge Trebisky. He barely put him out there, I think.

1073
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: But it's a little bit of a side. But the

1074
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: Rams and the Bears. I think if they come out strong,

1075
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: it might have an effect on how teams approached the

1076
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: quack Really they really just especially the Rams another level

1077
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: three two one. How do you guys think this is going?

1078
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: I didn't like that last segment at all. Eagles, NFC East,

1079
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: the defending champions. Easy question. Why would they cut Christian Hackenburg? No,

1080
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: just kidding. It's hard to repeat as a Super Bowl champion.

1081
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: Only one team has pulled it off. What years. Pat's

1082
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: obviously in the early Auts, Cowboys, Cowboys in the mid nineties.

1083
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: UM history tells us it's unlikely. Not the biggest concern

1084
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: I have. It's about health, and it's about two guys

1085
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: in particular. Obviously, Carson Wentz is number one on that list. UM,

1086
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: I know he is splitting reps reps evenly with Nick Foles.

1087
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is we're taping this

1088
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: on Friday. We are six days away from the kickoff

1089
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: of the Eagles season, and Carson Wentz has not been

1090
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: cleared for contact and practice yet, so he is a

1091
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: complete wild card about his availability. UH and Alshon Jeffrey

1092
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: is the other guy. He is their top wide receiver.

1093
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: I think I think maybe you can make Earth's you

1094
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: can say, or it's even though he doesn't want the

1095
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: According to Michael Kendricks, that's the best receiver on the team.

1096
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't want that smoke. But the best wide receiver

1097
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: is Jeffrey. He was there leading touchdown guy last year.

1098
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna miss at least two weeks, could be back

1099
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: week three. Bad shoulder. All right, these guys are both

1100
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: gonna return, um, But are they going to be the

1101
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: guys that the Eagles need them to be in a

1102
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: loaded NFC? And is it more likely that next May

1103
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: will be reading the puff pieces that Carson Wentz and

1104
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: Alston Jeffrey are both thrilled to finally we'd be back

1105
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: to themselves as they prepare for a new season. I

1106
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: think the Wentz thing is obviously concerning, just because suddenly

1107
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in the total fray of it. But

1108
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: there's also in terms of the overall team health. I

1109
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: just find every year, from like a human angle, we

1110
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: tend to everyone over emphasized the first frame of the season,

1111
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: the first four weeks, when so much is typically decided

1112
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: about these teams. The rest of the way that if

1113
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: they can get pretty much all these guys back in

1114
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: good shape by week four. The coaching staff and the

1115
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: way this team is built, in the way that they

1116
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: handled injuries and adversity last year they lost their left

1117
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean they lost a ton of guys last year too.

1118
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: That I just believe that you want to took a consistency,

1119
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: they'll carry it forward. Will wentz And and Jeffrey be

1120
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: back by week four? Yes, but how long is it

1121
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: gonna take before they what they they are what they

1122
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: are at their height, which was last year. That's the

1123
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 1: Mark's point is well taken. That a lot of times

1124
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: it's overblown. But but Dan's right, like, are you are

1125
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: you sure to recapture your pre injury form? Will these

1126
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: injuries nag? Will they lead to other injuries? Over compensation?

1127
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of questions, and when you

1128
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: look at the NFC contenders, to me, the Eagles have

1129
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: as many questions as anyone. They do. It's a great

1130
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: test for the coaching staff. But they have other ways

1131
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: to win games. You know, they have Jim Schwartz and

1132
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: a deep, deep defensive line. They might feel a little

1133
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: better about their secondary this year with Sidney Jones and

1134
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: Avante Maddox in the mix than they did a year ago.

1135
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: They have a great offensive line, which is a great

1136
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: place to start, and probably an improved running game having

1137
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: j J. I for the whole season and Corey Clement

1138
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: so they like they let let's not cry for them.

1139
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: Let's also give a shout out to Jordan my Ladder,

1140
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: that rugby superstar made good. Henry's boy. You stop it,

1141
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: and you stop it right now. The Dallas Cowboys like

1142
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: Emma Chris Weston amazingly enough. I think the Cowboys have

1143
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: probably been underappreciated for the most of the last two years.

1144
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: They were eighteen and six from two thousand and sixteen

1145
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: to mid season last year, and then all pros Ezekiel

1146
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: Elliott and Tyrone Smith were unavailable. And for a team

1147
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: that has built and relies upon all pros to an

1148
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: extent that no other team does, when you lose one

1149
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: of them, the season goes sideways. They've already lost their

1150
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: All Pro center Travis Frederick, They've lost former All pros

1151
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: Jason Whitten and does Bryant To me, can you count

1152
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: on that eighteen and six teams showing up when you're

1153
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: already starting the season without some of your all pros?

1154
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: It's an issue. I mean Tyrann Smith. If Tyrann Smith

1155
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: is right, though, then that is such a big boost

1156
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: along with Ezekiel Elliott that I think it makes up

1157
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: for And they do have some major points of optimism.

1158
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory could change their season. He looked better than

1159
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 1: he ever looked before he was suspended for the last

1160
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: two and a half years essentially, and if he gives

1161
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: them another pass rusher, that's something they didn't have. And

1162
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith is going to be starting at middle linebacker

1163
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: and they think that he's going to be a better

1164
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: player than he was a year ago. And it's quite

1165
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: a surprise even that he is starting over their first

1166
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: round pick. So those are two guys. I think that

1167
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: that their defense could be a little more have a

1168
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: little more juice than a half Yeah, And will they

1169
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: ever pull the trigger for Earl Thomas. I don't know.

1170
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: They're honestly waiting on at this point to make this happen.

1171
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: It's one of the most bizarre situations in the NFL.

1172
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: Their secondary forfeit a lot of leads second half leads

1173
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: last year. That was a big problem. Is the NFL

1174
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: really gonna enter a season and go deep into a

1175
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: season with Khalil Mack and Earl Thomas to the greatest

1176
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: defenders of the last ten years are just not gonna

1177
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: be playing football. That's happening. I don't buy it. History

1178
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: tells us this will work itself out. Max is a

1179
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: is a weird one. But getting up against that deadline

1180
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: though we are, Earl Thomas especially, I think we'll be

1181
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: back one way or another. But even Mac, it's like,

1182
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you think Thomas Lee back with

1183
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: the Seahawks? Though I don't know. It just sounds about

1184
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: is one of the most discord in scenarios out there

1185
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: right now with what Earl Thomas has said, and and

1186
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: maybe only second to Mac where they're not even talking

1187
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: the packard. The Cowboys traded for an offensive guard last night,

1188
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: Parker Arringer from the Chiefs. So I think that speaks

1189
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: to what you were saying West. They're missing a center

1190
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: and you know, we don't know how Zach Mark. How

1191
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys of a team of a t N

1192
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: if they've been kind of overlooked a little bit. I

1193
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: actually thought about bringing that up myself, but no, no,

1194
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: of course not. But there they'd be more likable than

1195
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: in years past. I think because it's there's a lot

1196
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: of mystery around this team and you don't know what's

1197
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I think there's much fun to watch it.

1198
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: Who's a had It looks like he could be a

1199
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: shutdown corner had probably the interception of the preseason. I'm

1200
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: here for like an Ezekiel Elliott like run at the

1201
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: rushing yardage record, which I just feel like could happen.

1202
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: Probably won't happen with this offensive line. But the last

1203
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: thing that Cowboys need is another bandwagon riding behind them,

1204
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: and we'd be just another bandwagon. I'm not jumping on

1205
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys like everyone else. To any listeners that were

1206
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: annoyed by the spirit of our picking, the Cowboys would

1207
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: not be awaiting. We can watch seven or primetime games together.

1208
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: We know that. Uh wait, how many more? Are these

1209
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: two more? The Washington Redskins? Greg Rosenthal. I've talked about

1210
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: that this Redskins team does not have an identity on

1211
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: defense forever, and it seems like they might have one

1212
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 1: here in Doron Payne and Jonathan all And, two guys

1213
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: who went to Alabama together and who looked great in

1214
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: the preseason. Allen looked like a different player than he

1215
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: did a year ago. And if they come together and

1216
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: they're kind of these two rocks in the middle of

1217
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: their defensive line, everyone else starts looking better, Preston Smith

1218
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: and Ryan Kerrigan and whatever is going on in the

1219
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: back with Josh Norman, and suddenly the defense can maybe

1220
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: keep up with the Redskins offense. And I feel like

1221
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: I've over talked about this offseason, but I think is

1222
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: the most exciting looking Redskins off fence that we've seen

1223
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: in a little while. And Adrian Peterson added to that mix.

1224
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: Come on, who's not now you're in? I'm in. I'm

1225
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: in on the red I listed them as the forgotten

1226
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: team in the NFC East, although I'm not sure they

1227
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: haven't deserved that. They have. They've been one of the

1228
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: worst franchises over the last you know, I know they

1229
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: their win loss hasn't always been terrible, but in terms

1230
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: of like consistent mediocrity and bad decisions, they've been up there. Yeah,

1231
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a small what would be the

1232
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: Mount rushmore of kind of forgettable teams in the last

1233
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: ten years, maybe the Redskins, the Lions. Yeah, definitely, it

1234
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: seems like the Bills. The Bills. It goes against type

1235
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: to build them around amount underground, like everybody would go

1236
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: to it, right, they try to get it together and

1237
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: then they're like, yeah, that's not fine. How about the

1238
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: one that's been like that for about twenty five or

1239
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: thirty years, the Miami Dolphins. But this isn't forgetting, Like,

1240
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: I like the idea for this Mount Rushmore is like,

1241
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: why is no one going to this? Because no one

1242
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: cares about what would anyone be totally shocked if Alex

1243
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: Smith had a comparable or better season than Kirk Cousins. No, no, no,

1244
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: not shocked. No. I mean he's he's He's going in

1245
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: with a healthy offense. He's a better quarterback. If Jordan,

1246
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson and this whole group is all healthy, I

1247
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be problem. They're gonna be problems. Makes

1248
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: you not as healthy as you are, you need Adrian

1249
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: Peterson to carry you into December for that to be

1250
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Yeah, Peterson is such a huge

1251
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: part of a team that fancies itself a division contender.

1252
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: It will be really fun to see him in that environment.

1253
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: I wonder if he could still I enjoyed. I enjoyed

1254
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: seeing him running exactly the same way he ran for

1255
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: the Cardinals last year, except this time everyone said he

1256
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: ran great. We uh. We usually kind of dog on

1257
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: the NFC East for getting stuck on our televisions every

1258
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Just they're the kind of like the America's division.

1259
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: But I'm in on the NFC East this year. All

1260
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: four teams to be it seemed fun to watch, Like

1261
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: the offenses, they had the storylines. I'm I'm with these divisions,

1262
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: so they're finally a last living up to the Giants.

1263
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: It's essentially the Giants and Redskins are a little premature

1264
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: to me. Okay, I can't believe this is awesome. That's

1265
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: how you know, you know what. I felt pampered and

1266
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: it was awesome to have some sparkly water. I'm not

1267
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: to be broadcast. I was with how why did it

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01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: take so long for the plug? The broadcast podcast? Finally

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants, Mark all right, Dan, you're part

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Speaker 1: of this one. You look at the talent on offense

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Speaker 1: for and it feels like two scenarios exist for New

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Speaker 1: York's scenario one with Odell Beckham sequon Barkley, Sterling Shepherd,

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Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, and Nate's solder at left tackle. Pat Schirmer's

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Speaker 1: offense has the requisite firepower to make him a Coach

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Speaker 1: of the Year candidate. As get back to where they

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Speaker 1: were just two seasons ago with the playoffs scenario, toe

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Speaker 1: are doomed from the start because you can't trust er

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Speaker 1: to reverse fortunes to get back to January play with

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Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old Eli Manning at the helm.

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Speaker 1: Per this scenario, fading Eli is much more likely to

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Speaker 1: crash into the side of a building instead of doing

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Speaker 1: what his brother did. Play poorly but win a Super Bowl. Anyway, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: what does your crystal ball say about got about probably

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01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: thirty seconds left to discuss the team? Well, is it

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Speaker 1: like that all these parts won to come together when

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Speaker 1: you get an Eli Manning that does just enough to

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Speaker 1: pull them back in the playoffs they were there two

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Speaker 1: years ago? Or is Eli Manning the reason all these

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Speaker 1: pretty parts crash into the side of a building. I

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Speaker 1: want to say the latter, because that's been you know,

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Speaker 1: six years worth of my analysis on this pos just

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Speaker 1: a question for West, But I really believe that the talent,

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01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: the skill posion talent is too good for even Eli

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01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: to mess it up. Mh. And not to get all

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01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: that's such a cop out, by the way, that's not

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Speaker 1: that's not honest analysis. You know what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: do here. You're trying to set it up where you'll

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01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: be right if he sucks, but if he succeeds, so

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01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: you will not get many credit for it. You'll say

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: anybody could have done it. That's not fair, and I

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Speaker 1: don't give you credit. It's absolutely the case, and it's

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Speaker 1: the way if you throws, if you read the defense,

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01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: if you stay on the field and you make plays,

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: you deserve. Chris was carried by O'Dell for three years.

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01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: His numbers looked okay. He did not quarterback well and

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01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: that's what I expect to continue to happen. Right, we'll

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01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: see how the line is. But you know, not to

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01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: get to Mark Sessler on you. I know it was

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01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: the preseason, but Ela, man, it look it was pretty

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01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: sharpened in the one game that he was out there.

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Speaker 1: He he didn't just look all right. I would say

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Speaker 1: it was the best couple of quarters I can remember

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Speaker 1: from me. Like, man, it was just a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: but he had a couple of throws and he was

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Speaker 1: protected and I was like, okay, that was that was

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Speaker 1: Let's see that again. It still has still has the arm,

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: the deep all look good. He still has the He

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01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: had one play against. What a way to go out

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01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,959
Speaker 1: with a third Super Bowl title over the Patriots come February.

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Speaker 1: Over the Patriots, West and Greg over the Patriots. My

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01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: dead body, Well it's happened twice over your living one.

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: We still have fifteen seconds. I've said my part. That's

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01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: the last fifteen seconds of Eli Manning. Fame back to

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01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: your beard. West. You were feeling pampered. When the pampered

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Speaker 1: they put a little talcum powder on. They put some Yeah,

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01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: it was it was fun. Four three best time's up,

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Speaker 1: bozos um, congratulations in order now that we're out of

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Speaker 1: the NFC bracket, Congratulations to the Baltimore Ravens. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to the Ravens nest and just give it up. Five

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Speaker 1: and oh. In the preseason, maybe that's why the nominations

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01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: came from Chris with the shocking, stunning, head scratching nomination

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Speaker 1: of West of the Ravens. I had no idea they

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Speaker 1: were undefeated in the greatest preseason Team of All Time

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: teams have tried him, but no one. Actually, maybe there

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01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: could be some six I lost sandwiches here because I

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Speaker 1: had I had ticket it at some point during one

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Speaker 1: of these operations. I think it was a league like

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Speaker 1: a NFL record setting four undefeated teams in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and we did not get that. So I get think

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Speaker 1: that no one of us even remember when would that?

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Speaker 1: I haven't. Why am I pointing out my own defeat

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 1: when none of you even knew it and occurred. I

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Speaker 1: have an idea, by the way, I'll just throw it

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Speaker 1: out there. I'll just forward you each t yes Monday.

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Speaker 1: Uh we have a show, um a podcast than Tuesday

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Speaker 1: or live show one of those shows. Do you guys

1347
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: want to I know this is unprecedented, but just try

1348
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: not to dismiss it at hand. A second round of

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Speaker 1: nominations for Team of a t L just so we

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01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: have a little before to work with and maybe we can.

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01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: I don't want us to be jammed into some type

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01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,919
Speaker 1: of discourse where we're the way our our the politics

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01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: in our country all right now, we're left and right

1354
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: and there's no in the middle. Maybe we should open

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01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: it up and throw a couple more teams in the the

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Speaker 1: mix and maybe find some common partisan team of a

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Speaker 1: t N. I'd rather watch some football, and that's what

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: we did initially, and you can see what you like

1359
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: and see whatever and get a feel of these teams.

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01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: Watch some real football. That's what we did for the

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Speaker 1: first three or four years. That would be my thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think right now I'm going to feel any

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Speaker 1: different in over the next week. Yeah, I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's the least we can do, literally, um in in

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Speaker 1: light of our less than inspiring performance in the first

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Speaker 1: go round for the nominations, which was a debacle. I

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Speaker 1: I I'm strongly in support of the Falcon still, but

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Speaker 1: I see where this is heading and I know how

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Speaker 1: this works, So I I just want to compromise, is

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Speaker 1: what I was throwing out there. I know that I've

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Speaker 1: spoken to one other member of this podcast about a

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Speaker 1: potential compromise type team that we both feel we could

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Speaker 1: get behind. That said, I mean, I just go with

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01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: the flow on this exercise, and I would be fine

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01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: waiting a little bit before we pick a team that

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01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: looks like a right, We're not gonna flute nightmare. You

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna pick it before a week one. You're saying,

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01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: we have a mean if you want to change the rules,

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01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: we can talk about that too. But I think maybe

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Speaker 1: it's if you want to, like in the spirit of it,

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01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: maybe we nominate teams and then we from that group

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: that we nominate, we could let it breathe. We'll be

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01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: down with this season, so maybe we down with a

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: double compromise, double compromise. I'm just I'm with Mark, I'm

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01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: along for the ride. Pick whoever you want gonna step

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01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: in it. I feel good about my second nomination, though

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm not just It's not just throw away candidate. I

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01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 1: look forward to if I look forward to hearing it. Uh.

1389
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Speaker 1: And finally, apologies to Mitch r. Biski for what happened

1390
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: on the I should apologize what I set up a

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01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: question that was just an absolute disaster according to the

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: rest of the room. And I've got to, as the

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01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: sound bite said, pick up the game a little bit. Please.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're very excited. Next time you hear from us,

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: we will be God willing on the other side of

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01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: the country, um or the world or the world excuse me.

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: We will be going to the country. Then over the

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: great pond that they call the Atlantic into England. We're

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01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: so excited, so make sure to say hi to us

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01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: if you see us there. But until then, this is

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01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: Dan Henson signing off for Quiet Storm by male man,

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01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: but it's trimmed Beard the old boss, an m v

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01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: P behind the glass. Will miss you, Emma, Missy so

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: much til London