WEBVTT - What's up with the Kings? 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.760 On this bonus episode of The Heat Check, It's time 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.400 to check in on the Sacramento Kings, and I'm gonna 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.439 just give it too straight. It's not going great for 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.000 our Kings. I do get my two favorite NBA guys 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.560 in the world, though, on Damian Barling and Kenny Caraway 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.560 ESPN thirteen twenties Deloy Casey Show to open up about 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.400 those Kings. I've got some thoughts on what they can 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.479 do to make some moves. Kenny thinks the roster might 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.080 be good enough right now. We talk about our dubs 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.959 and maybe even a little good old fashioned yukon Dan 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.239 Hurly Madman Talk as well Anthony my Man drop that 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:48.839 motherfucking beat that she'll do. We on. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.360 The following interview a cure on Newlonksey Show on. 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.240 East cancerteen twenty. The show airs verse twelve to four 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.679 Pacific time three seven Eastern Standard time on any Friday. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.440 It's also available in the Odyssey Happen as well as 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.399 wherever you get your podcast. So let's jump right into it. 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.400 You know, I was just talking to a Spurs Beat 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.399 reporter right before I came on with you guys, and 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.240 I asked him his name's Matthew Tynan, and I think 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.280 he's got the best Spurs sub stack out by the way, Like, 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.760 if anybody wants Spurs content, like, he's really good. He's 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.960 the only reason I know what's going on with them, 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.959 Like actually the nuances and the details of the team and. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:41.520 Uh, shockingly top five defensive rating team just nuts. Anyway, 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:42.200 So I asked. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:47.039 Him his most disappointing team outside of Philadelphia, and he 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.520 said the Kings. He was just like, you know, as 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.360 someone who watched a lot of Damarro and San Antonio, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:54.680 this is his opinion, not mine. 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.560 I just want to preface that by saying that. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.600 He said, you know, I just couldn't understand how tomorrow 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.720 was going to fit into this like very free flowing 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.920 offense where Damar kind of becomes the system at some 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.639 point and he kind of becomes the center of gravity, 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.880 and how that was going to work with a team that, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.520 you know, when they were playing really well two years ago, 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.680 was very much like a free flowing system and they 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:21.760 what are. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.639 You guys, what's the what's the record right now? 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.799 Ten eight ten? 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.079 Yeah, And He's like, and this is really just the 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.520 the easiest part of the schedule, and it's gonna get 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.200 a lot tougher from here. So if they're eight and 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.520 ten right now, it could be a blood bath moving forward. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.800 Yeah, it's time. 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.160 No, it's pretty frustrating, man, because I thought they were 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.080 better come into the Sea. I still think they're better 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.040 than the way they've played in the last week. We 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.320 can have two weeks, but they you know, they're they're 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.560 not doing a whole lot right. They can't hit shots, 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.280 they can't stop the three. Now you know, the free 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.600 throw shooting is spotty. It's it's hit or miss, and 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.080 it's just it's frustrating to watch these guys because the 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.160 expectations were were higher than what they've come out of 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:06.880 the gate playing with. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.440 Do you think this team you guys can answer honestly 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.880 because I don't actually know the how I feel about it. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.399 Do you think this team has an identity? 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.080 No, I don't have that. I don't you want me 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.560 to like. No, they don't have one. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:24.480 It's not defensive, it's not it's not the high octane 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:25.920 offense it was two years ago. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:27.119 They don't have one. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.680 What I don't know if this is an identity or not. 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:30.600 You guys can help me out. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.000 I think their identity is a high scoring offensive team 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.200 and they're not. They're not executing like that's who they are. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.160 They're trying to identify as a high offensive scoring team, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:39.600 but they're not. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.240 That's well, that's who they are. That's what they're going 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.120 to be if they're gonna win. Like, we look at 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.160 them and we say, what's their identity? How are they 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.320 going to be the best version of themselves? If they're 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.600 scoring at a high clip and that's who that's who 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.800 they are, that's they're just not executing who they who 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.840 they are or they're supposed. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.760 To kind of high octane let's talk about that. Okay, 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.360 So say that's where we're working towards. What kind of 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.080 high octane offense are you talking about? 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.920 Are you talking about threes and lays and dunks? 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.560 Are you talking about you know, easy two's mid range? 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.200 Are you talking about lots of back cuts creating space 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.920 like you're seeing with a team like Cleveland. What kind 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.840 of offense is generating these easy looks? If you were 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.600 to say Kenny, because obviously me and Damien I don't 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.039 think that's our perspective, but like, if that's what they're 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.440 gonna be in what way are they going to be that, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.200 and do they have the horses to be that. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.760 They were supposed to be an offense that actually can 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.400 can give it to you any way you want it. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.360 You know, if you want, if you want. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.720 If you want ball movement in the DHL game, they 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.560 got that. You want to hit threes, they got Keegan, 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.320 Kevin Herder, Kean else those guys to get threes. If 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.240 you want to go ISO, they got Dearon Fox, they 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.000 got Demarta Rosen. They can do that too. They were 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.880 supposed to be a jack of all trades on the 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.919 offensive end, and the ISO game is okay. But to 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.120 me when I look at him Trista, the thing that 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.479 is kind of just done them in is they can't 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.719 shoot to save their lives. It's not shoot. And these 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.160 are guys that they're not Craig Hodges out there, but 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.919 they're they're they've been better in their career than what 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.240 they are right now when and I kind of bring 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.560 it down to like Trey Laws, Kevin Herder and Keek 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.800 and Murray, and they're absolutely. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.960 Anemic shooting the ball right now. Anemic. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.400 And that's kind of the one aspect of their offense 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.600 that hasn't shown up. And who knows if it ever will. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.880 But the Damar is scoring, Deerren scoring, They're doing io stuff. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.599 Sabonus is still doing what he's doing, dribble, handoff wise 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:40.520 and all this other stuff. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:41.599 They just can't shoot. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.719 That makes it a very ugly visual game. For sure. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.840 I'm out. I've been out. I continue to be out. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:57.119 On Kevin Herder playoffs. Yeah, I'm out. Like he's got 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:57.760 to go. 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.400 You know, Mike Brown joining us, You're on Sacramento Sports Lead. 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.240 By the way, how about Harrison Barnes getting Player of 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:05.560 the Week? 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:15.320 Okay, eight point seven rebounds a game for a week? 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.800 Insane? 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.760 Anyway, I just thought I'd add a little salt to 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:26.200 the wound. They gotta make some moves, make some moves. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.880 You don't think the roster is constructed as good? Well, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.640 obviously you just said you don't like Kevin Hurder. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.360 So no, I think Kevin Hurder is not a guy 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:39.719 that I can trust. And that's really yeah. 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.440 And and I don't know if it's a change of 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:43.360 scene or anything. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.520 I don't know that that needs. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.080 To happen, or if it's a role thing, if it's 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.359 a confidence thing, if it's a mechanical. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:56.040 Thing, but Cavon and Sacramento that needs to be that 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.400 needs to come to an end, in my opinion, is 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.600 just just not working problem. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:01.880 I don't think cavan is here. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:04.560 Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:09.440 We haven't seen Cavon since two years. Remember that game 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.720 winner he hit and it was like, oh yeah, red 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.400 velvets Stephan here. You know, it's like ice water in 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.840 his veins. The highlights are going crazy. I just think 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.920 maybe mentally he's sort of diminished. It is not maybe 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.920 a sense of self, it's just not there, you know. 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.560 So he's got to go, like he's got to go 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.760 somewhere else, to a contender that like to Milwaukee or something, 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.200 a place that could you know, figure out a way 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.280 to use him, or even like a Cleveland the team 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.400 that you could use somewhere shooting wings Miami. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:43.440 You're not gonna get anything. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.880 Back for him that's gonna really like be useful right 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.560 this second. But that's probably fine he I think it's 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.200 additioned by subtraction with him, like can't. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.600 I don't know, I don't know. If he's reached that 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.440 status you. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.760 Can't have him on the floor and City is gonna 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.000 make shots, then. 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.320 Why would those other teams why would they trade for them? 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:12.720 Because sometimes well because I think it's a think about this, Like, 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.640 sometimes a change of scenery makes all the difference in 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.320 the world, right, like those battle scars, a new message, 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:23.800 new person, a new place, a new set of teammates, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.560 new just like you know how Like I don't know 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.960 if you guys have ever done this, but have you 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.760 ever tried to like sort of revive or reform yourself 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.120 the next time you date someone, Like I'm gonna be 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.360 a little more, I'm gonna take the trash out more 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.240 this time around, or I'm. 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:41.280 Gonna like these people. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.920 This new person doesn't know that I can't make threes, 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.480 you know, Like they don't know, but. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:51.200 My habits are. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.240 You know what the difference, TK is if you don't 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.840 take the trash out in front of the twenty nine 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.200 other teams in the league, they gonna know you don't 0:08:59.240 --> 0:08:59.880 take the trash. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.000 That's true, that's true. 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.320 But it could be just a voice in your ear. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.360 Hey, maybe trist is right, because goddamn Harrison can rebound. Now, 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.319 maybe's onto something. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.040 This is what I'm saying is is sometimes players, for 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:21.120 whatever reason, based on the ingredient some team, right the 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.439 stew that they're put into the pot with. For whatever reason, 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:30.600 they just change. You're seeing a negative reversion in KCP. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.560 KCP his whole career has been a forty percent three 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:39.640 point shooter. For whatever reason, the anemic three point shooting 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.240 has infected him in Orlando. And I think he's shooting 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.880 like eight eight percent from three or something crazy. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.960 It's it's awful, look it up. I think it's sub 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.760 It was sub ten percent like two weeks and so. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.880 I know, and he can shoot the leather off the ball. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.800 So I don't know what's how all that how that 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.559 makes sense? But I think most people would say, I 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:04.920 think KCP can shoot. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.760 Maybe he just can't shoot in Orlando. Maybe he doesn't 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.000 like the arena. Maybe there's like who knows, who knows 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:11.520 where it is. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.520 But there's always gms that think and coaches that think 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.520 that they can change that player. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.839 They look back and see what Kevin was in Atlanta 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.200 and they say, I think he can get back to 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:23.720 what he was from in Atlanta. 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:28.160 Let's take KCP is shooting twenty two percent from beyond 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:32.400 the arc one two three three of the last five years, 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.200 he's shot over forty percent. The two years he didn't 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.480 he shot thirty nine percent, thirty eight percent. This is 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.720 a forty percent three point shooter. He' shooting twenty two 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.240 percent from beyond the ark right now. 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.600 Yeah, it's insane. So I think there's something to that. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.000 Well, he got swapped out for Keon Ellis last night, 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.720 so I guess maybe this process has started. Of course, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.600 I don't know how much more Mike likes Keon than Kevin. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.959 So does Mike anyone? I mean, who does he like? 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.640 You look, he likes, he likes, he likes the the 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:05.720 other guys on the team. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.760 I think he likes Malak And I don't know if 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.640 he's we're talking. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.440 I don't know if it's a don't like Keon. I 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.800 think it might be a don't trust or don't believe. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:21.240 Yes, yes, And they Damien pointed it out, you know, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.679 over the summer, and it seems like he's spot on. 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.079 It's more of him and Monty looking at like, No, 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:27.840 that's that's a cool little story. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.120 That's that's Q. That's cute. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.360 But you know, he's not a starting two guard like 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.280 y'all kind of bugging when you say that. And that's 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.880 how they look at Keon potentially and definitely. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.920 They're looking at it like they're seeing the Rando report. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.800 Guys are random league that you need to know, Like 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:48.240 this is Kean ellis you know, like they're like he's 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:53.319 a fun feature in s I you know, nice. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:59.720 Man age. Yeah, keep an eye on ke Ellen. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.840 Yeah, yeah, literally keep an eye on him. But he's 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.560 not starting. Like that's if you don't need to say 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:07.560 keep an eye on him. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.679 If he's gonna be in the starting rotation, he's gonna 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.319 be in your mind's eye. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.600 I like you too. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.480 I think I think he can be a starting two 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.000 guard on it on a good team. 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:22.160 Yeah, I think he can be. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.800 Do you think, like, do you think this King's team 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.400 needs needs like another player? I know you said audition 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.400 by subtraction with Kevin Hurder, but do they need Cam Johns? 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.120 I like Cam Johnson? I don't. I don't know. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.800 Do they need something to be a good team. I 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.480 don't think they need I don't think the Kings need 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.600 something to be a good team. They may need something 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.400 to be a contender, but I mean, come on, man, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.160 how much more do they need? They got dearon Fox, 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.720 the Montessons, the mart Rose and we like Keigan Murray 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.200 Malik Monk to be above five hundred. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.320 They need a little bit more. No, they don't. These 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:56.880 guys need. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.360 To be clearly, they're not as good as sorry t 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:00.000 K go ahead. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:06.760 Who is shooting anywhere close to sniper range? And what 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.880 is his current three point percentage? 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:09.719 No? 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:11.079 One? 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.960 Yeah, you need at least one, and you need really 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:15.760 more than. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.440 One, so en team at this point. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.640 And that's insane. That's insane because that. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.800 Was never I don't get mad at me. I just 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:25.640 think it's sad. 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.240 No, I know, I mean, but that's that's that notion 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.439 that Dearn Fox and I, as you guys know, am 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.600 like I ride for Daron and his three point shooting 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.000 has really gotten a lot better in the last few years, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.680 and I love that for him. But if he is 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.439 your leading three point shooter and that's the guy that 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.760 has the ball in his hands a lot where he's 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.240 gonna have to take a lot of tough shots, yeah, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.760 you need to figure out some way to take the 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.840 pressure off of him from the perimeter. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.440 Well, Damar shoots U hang on, hang on, hang on, hang. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.000 On, don't look at it. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.559 Key On Kean is forty four point six. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.719 How many attempts per game, Like what two? 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:09.280 Maybe? 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:10.679 Yeah, two and a half? 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.199 Like the Aaron is six attempts point game per per 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.719 game and he's at thirty four and a half. Yeah, 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.720 like shoot like shooting a number of consequence? Yeah, de 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.240 Aaron at thirty four point five. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.520 I look at this situation where if we look at 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.320 like they they cause Tristan, I'm looking at it like, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.520 I think these guys are better than what they played. 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.040 I think they need to step up. They need to 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:32.560 play better. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.360 Keig and Murray need to knock down some of these 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.920 open shots, you know, they need to find more cohesion, 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.360 Like they need to play better this group. But if 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.560 people are telling me they ain't got enough, to be 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.320 honest with you, then everybody should be open for a trade, 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.400 like everybody's open trade, Keegan's ass. If that's the case, Like, 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.480 if this ain't good enough, I just named five players 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.080 that I think are really really good. If that's not 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.240 good enough and you need more, then what do we like? 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:58.720 So beholden to. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.360 Some of these guys for I think you're right, Kenny, 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:02.160 I think you're right. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:07.960 I think outside of outside of Fox and sabonas open 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.280 for business. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.000 And once again, I don't agree with that. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.200 I think Hegan is a guy that you keep around, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:17.040 but I also think he's young again. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.560 Like I don't know, maybe Kevin is infecting him. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:27.720 Man, that's wild verbiage to use two days before Thanksgiving 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.040 or any tuesdays. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.280 But that's fine. 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.880 How about your dubs? You think that's real. That's a 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.200 discussion in this building. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.440 I don't think it's real. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.960 But the last time, here's the thing, this is how 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:44.200 our dubs got started. Is the last time I really 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:49.280 said it with my full chest was nine and one. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:53.000 You will not be And they played it around the 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:54.160 locker room. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.000 And that's how me and the Butcher Boy got into 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.840 our little beef and all them and on their show 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.360 and there yep yep yeppen and calling me. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:07.120 A clown, and what happened to our dubs? Our dubs 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:08.200 won the title that year. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.520 So I only have good things to say about our dubs, 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.120 because Lord knows I want nothing but the. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:14.760 Best for them. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.400 And you only have good things to say about butcher 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:17.880 Boy too. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:19.000 You know it. 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.880 Butcher Boy put him in ad seg Let people sort 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:24.240 it out. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.960 I'm watching Mayor of Kingstown. It's a Mayor of Kingstown reference. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.040 Yeah, I was trying to remember where I heard that from. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.120 I didn't watch that whole season. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:34.880 I came in in like the last four or five 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.560 episodes my wife was watching. I was like, are you watching? 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.600 And that's how I watched it. But a good show, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.600 good show from what I saw. Can I ask you 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.160 a non NBA question. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.080 Since we got you for a little bit, Yeah, of course. 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.400 It's hard to like really say anything about the guy 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.640 because he's won two national championships. 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.240 I don't know if I like Dan Hurley. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.120 He behaves like a buffoon on this What he did 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.000 yesterday and the way he was acting. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.360 Yesterday is a joke. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.280 Jo their question, No, it's. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.160 A statement, Well what do you think? Do you agree? 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:04.520 So? 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.000 I think I told you guys this story before, but 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.639 for people who didn't hear it, I'll say it again. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.720 Two years ago Thanksgiving, I was back. Was it two 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:13.719 years ago? I think it was. 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:17.040 I was back in Portland to see my mom for Thanksgiving. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:22.080 She ended up sadly getting COVID and so Phil Knight 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.800 had his I don't know what you even call it. 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.760 It's in a regular tournament. It's a tournament, but it 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.400 only happens when he has a monumental birthday. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.880 So it was the philm Night eighty five and. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.639 He had like a multi team, like two tournaments for 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.280 the men's side, one tournament for the women's side, And 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.960 that was when North Carolina was ranked number one in 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:42.520 the country. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:43.199 They were in it. 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.280 Perdue Is zach Edy, they were in it. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:51.320 Alabama, Nate Ods, Brandon Miller, they were in it. Yukon 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.000 was in it. But you kind at this point when 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.040 they played, Dan. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:56.240 Hurley was on the hot seat. 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.800 He didn't have a good year of the year before. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.120 They weren't really like being talked about, and they were 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:07.119 playing Alabama in so in Portland there's like the Moda 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.120 Center and then there's the Memorial Coliseum right next door, 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.600 where like the Portland Winter Hops the Junior League team plays. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.080 And that gym is like smaller than my high school gym. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.119 Not even gonna lie to you. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:22.639 So I'm sitting watching Yukon Alabama, which is insane that 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:23.520 it was in that gym. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.320 That just tells you what people thought about Yukon. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:31.200 And we're in that little gym and I'm probably five 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.879 feet away from Dan Hurley, Like the gym is so 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.600 small that his chair and like the sort of like 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.680 chairs to the players were like maybe two steps from 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.399 the front row of like the bleachers or whatever. So 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.560 I'm sitting next to this woman and Dan Hurley is 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:53.840 losing his mind about every loose ball, every single possession. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:58.160 He is tripping. He calls over the ref right, calls 0:18:58.160 --> 0:18:58.480 over the. 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.920 Reft by name, knows him, and then mother fs him 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.960 to his face to the finger, his finger in his face, 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.920 pointing like this multiple time, like he's a Bitch's a 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.720 bitch kind of like that, right, And I look over 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.359 at this woman. I'm like, he is a madman, this guy. 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.920 And I don't really at this point know a lot 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.359 about Dan Hurley past the Hurley legacy, right, and I 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.120 look at him, like, oh, what is he on right now? 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.320 And I don't even know why I asked her, but 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.159