WEBVTT - Have You Ever Experienced Body Shaming In Your Workplace?

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<v Speaker 1>It's topic times called eight hundred five five one five

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<v Speaker 1>one to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning everybody in cj Envy Charlamagne the Guide. We are

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<v Speaker 2>the Breakfast Club now if you just join us. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about an incident that we've seen happen at Costco.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess a lady was body shamed because of the

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<v Speaker 2>way that she looked in attire, and her coworkers might

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<v Speaker 2>not have looked the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, we're asking eight hundred five eight five one

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<v Speaker 3>oh five one.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just talking about our culture and the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, usually our women are more thicker black women, is.

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<v Speaker 3>What you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So is this a regular thing women go through that

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<v Speaker 4>your body shape makes your tire look inappropriate? We got

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<v Speaker 4>aj and Tam Bam from the We Talked Back podcasting.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell, that's a question, Larry Lady.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, man, We've been going through that whole lives for real,

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<v Speaker 5>in a real way. I think women of other ethnic

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<v Speaker 5>cities get away with a lot more. I think Black

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<v Speaker 5>women and girls are over sexualized from a very young age.

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<v Speaker 5>So it is a real thing, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the disrespect come from other women now, So I deal

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<v Speaker 5>I dealt with that in a corporate setting. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>my clothes might look a little better on me, may

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<v Speaker 5>not be inappropriate. But and this was coming from other women,

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<v Speaker 5>though black women in particular, bigger black women.

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<v Speaker 4>In this morning, I saw the sanitation workers losing their mind.

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<v Speaker 4>They looking good girl early in the morning in New York.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's just jealousy though, right the other women, the

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<v Speaker 4>women they see you come into corporate workplace. You might

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<v Speaker 4>have on the same dress that they have, on the

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<v Speaker 4>same outfit that they have on, but because of your

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<v Speaker 4>body shape, they probably just feel jealous or intimidated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of another producer of Iour said she used to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with that in school. So I guess it was

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<v Speaker 2>a uniform that she had to wear. And she said that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when she was younger, she was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>thinner up top and bigger on the bottom. And when

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<v Speaker 2>she wore the uniform that the other girls and have

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. But when teacher pulled it to the side,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you can't wear that, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the uniform. I can't wear anything else where.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually took her to the principal. She said, thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>the principle was black and was like, no, this is

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<v Speaker 2>her body.

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<v Speaker 3>She can do it. And she was like the white

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<v Speaker 3>teacher made a big fuss about it, like there's boys

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<v Speaker 3>in there, this bois of that. But she was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is my body.

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<v Speaker 4>White teacher ain't got no ass. That's just jealousy. The

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<v Speaker 4>white teacher ain't got no hips. That's just jealousy.

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<v Speaker 5>And her husban there on whatever the porn site ws.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, women are made very conscious of their body

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<v Speaker 6>from very young. I remember my mom would tell me

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<v Speaker 6>a story when I was little and they were like,

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<v Speaker 6>she's too big to be in a panther. Still, well,

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<v Speaker 6>you need to take her out of paper.

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<v Speaker 7>She's like that, ain't no pamp I.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't know, no, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe I just looked like I had one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I know what you say.

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<v Speaker 2>Wearing what you said, you was saying you were in

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<v Speaker 2>a panther now, but but you're saying that it looked

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<v Speaker 2>like you had a papa.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I had a pamper on it was like bomb Square,

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<v Speaker 6>We had a homeboy, like do y'all know Dre?

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<v Speaker 3>What Dre?

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<v Speaker 4>We used to call dra dirty diaper because I remember

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<v Speaker 4>that I didn't used to call him that way, when

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<v Speaker 4>when when you call him that, no I know used

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<v Speaker 4>to call them that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I do feel like that when when someone says that

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<v Speaker 4>to a woman, they're just acknowledging how they see them,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're sexualizing, exactly objectifying them.

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<v Speaker 3>Very young Ashley, good morning, good morning. How you feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>You went through something?

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<v Speaker 9>So I did it myself.

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<v Speaker 10>My daughter did talk to us.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened.

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<v Speaker 9>So it was a graduation in middle school, and had

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<v Speaker 9>on a fitted dress, you know, one of those stretchy

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<v Speaker 9>but fitted dresses. Yep, and she's sicker and there was

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<v Speaker 9>girls in there, mind you, with her hanging out their

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<v Speaker 9>after their body open, their sea grew. But they made

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<v Speaker 9>her all need to bring her sweater to put around

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<v Speaker 9>her waist because her.

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<v Speaker 3>But was m that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 10>And she was so embarrassed that all these kids seeing

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<v Speaker 10>her get escorted into the front door, and they literally

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<v Speaker 10>made her stand there with escorts until I got there

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<v Speaker 10>to sweater around her rest her waist.

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<v Speaker 9>So that her bohop.

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<v Speaker 5>That's got to be some form of discrimination, is this

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<v Speaker 5>girl discriminations?

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<v Speaker 7>Clapper? Discrimination?

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<v Speaker 3>Clapper? Why clapper?

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<v Speaker 7>Because you clapping around the school yard.

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<v Speaker 3>The morning now you dealt with this too. Yes.

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<v Speaker 11>Actually, since I was in like BEAUTI school, I guess

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<v Speaker 11>we had so it would be like ship sea woman.

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<v Speaker 9>Sure that you will go to.

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<v Speaker 11>Six inches, you would say, but the white girls did

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<v Speaker 11>didn't have him for you know everything that's black girl.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, it would be mostly black.

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<v Speaker 12>It's going to be used to it at the time,

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<v Speaker 12>but it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>She said. You kind of get used to it or

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<v Speaker 3>what it's not right, But she said it's not right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean as black people, you get used to all

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<v Speaker 4>types of forms of discriminations.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, who's this good morning?

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<v Speaker 13>This is day the morning died?

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Now talk to you a manager, right, yes, I am

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Now don't tell us what job. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>want you get your you know, want you lose your job,

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<v Speaker 2>but tell us what's going on.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so that body shaming is not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 13>done since not by a manager. I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 13>enough of employees other things that have to work about

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<v Speaker 13>coming from first be seen. If that's their body, that's

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<v Speaker 13>their body. I don't know if they manages the training classes,

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<v Speaker 13>but she definitely has.

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<v Speaker 11>The loss to Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I do wonder if the the or the costco employee

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<v Speaker 4>said it was the manager of out body shaming.

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<v Speaker 3>It probably was a woman another woman manager. Problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well eight hundred and five eight five, one oh five,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're talking about being body shame in the workplaces.

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<v Speaker 3>This happened to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I get body shamed here all the time, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying, just because I'm the thickest person up here.

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<v Speaker 4>I get body shame from envy. I get body shame

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<v Speaker 4>from Taylor because she's a hater, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's actually starting to get to me.

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<v Speaker 7>Why are you dressed like that? Whoa skinny jeans on?

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<v Speaker 3>That their work plate?

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<v Speaker 7>It's a uniform all over the building.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn, don't tell them that. Don't The problem is he

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<v Speaker 3>thinks he's thick, right, but he's not thick. Rights his

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<v Speaker 3>own thing. Taylor can't help it, because Taylor couldn't wait

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<v Speaker 3>to come in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Comes Are you jealous of Charlamagne's thickness?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's be very clear that he started mentioning that because

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<v Speaker 5>he's does of me.

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<v Speaker 7>So why do you start think because of me?

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<v Speaker 3>Why you want to do side by side comparisons all

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<v Speaker 3>the time? And I don't be trying to test me.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, let's drop down and get out eagle on right now,

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<v Speaker 4>talking about you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>For what what's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 10>Curve?

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<v Speaker 4>You do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Though you do it? I had something? Does this happen

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<v Speaker 3>to you? Let's talk about this the Breakfast Club. Good morning,

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<v Speaker 3>it's topic time.

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<v Speaker 1>Called eight hundred and five eight five one five one

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<v Speaker 1>to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 10>I want everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It's d J n V Charlamagne the God. We are

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<v Speaker 2>the Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about women being body shave eight hundred and five

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<v Speaker 2>eight five one oh five one.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we got some special guest hosts from the

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<v Speaker 2>We Talk Bad podcast AJ and Tam Bam, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about the situations working at a place where

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<v Speaker 2>other women might not have the same body as you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know they don't look as good as you,

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<v Speaker 2>but because you got body and shapes and curves that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, manages and sometimes the boss thinks that you

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<v Speaker 2>is man.

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<v Speaker 4>These women be hating okay, hey, they be seeing these

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<v Speaker 4>black women come through and you know they'd be of

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<v Speaker 4>a certain.

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<v Speaker 3>Shape and statue and they just be hating.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really what it boils down to.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's se it. Let's go to the phone line. It's

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of people on the line. Hello, who's

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<v Speaker 3>this good morning?

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<v Speaker 14>This is Christina.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Christina. Now this happened at your job the past

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, actually twice.

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<v Speaker 12>I forgot when I went to join the army.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, they have very strict standards, and I had

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<v Speaker 13>to lose five pounds to be four an end. Wow,

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<v Speaker 13>And I'm very hippie and I've been naturally like that,

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<v Speaker 13>and then after I had kids it enhanced it. So

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<v Speaker 13>the past fifteen years at my job, within the first

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<v Speaker 13>five years they changed the dress code where we were

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<v Speaker 13>legging and things like that.

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<v Speaker 14>That shows off our shape.

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<v Speaker 13>Anything I wear it, it's gonna be tight doing.

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<v Speaker 15>Shop like mine.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you wear around my hip?

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<v Speaker 15>It's about fifty two inches around.

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<v Speaker 8>My my butt?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>How tall?

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<v Speaker 7>You're dragging a wagon by three?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I'm definitely not gonna like it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was aught about working for a little.

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<v Speaker 13>Mama.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, now, I'm sorry. Goodbye, you're harassing the victim.

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<v Speaker 7>What is happening?

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, who's this?

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<v Speaker 9>Hello in the morning?

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<v Speaker 2>About the clubs at the by Lauren good morning, Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Has that happened to you, You know the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you probably got more curves of shape and it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a problem for you at your work spot.

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, I mean it's hard as a black woman having natural.

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<v Speaker 12>Body part and it just being over sexualized like in.

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<v Speaker 11>People's mind when it's not.

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<v Speaker 15>If you all remember the home Depot all that was

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<v Speaker 15>going around the internet.

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<v Speaker 12>She wasn't even yeah, she wasn't aware enoughing anywhere in

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<v Speaker 12>a but people were harrassing her.

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<v Speaker 13>So it's hard for black women because we always being

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<v Speaker 13>over sexual Yes, for no reason.

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<v Speaker 9>We were natural hair.

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<v Speaker 13>It used to be called nappy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So it's hard.

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<v Speaker 13>Being a black woman, y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember the news reporter. I think her name is like

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<v Speaker 5>Dmitria Dmetrio.

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<v Speaker 7>Beautiful. It was all the white women.

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<v Speaker 5>Calling and complaining, are putting messages online about her body shape,

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<v Speaker 5>and she looked very good in her clothes.

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<v Speaker 7>There was Mutria laughing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like a lord, oh b I l O R

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<v Speaker 5>something like mut I know the Mutri.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, who's this key? Kelly? Good on the hell are you? Kelly?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm thirty two?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Now you said this happened to you? Before Mama,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh heck, yeah, what happened?

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<v Speaker 14>So then in like a white dominant area, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 14>sympastic in different types of sports, and I was literally

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<v Speaker 14>like to take my side so.

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<v Speaker 12>That they wouldn't bust out, you know, or be too.

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<v Speaker 13>Big for my tights or whatever. Oh my was too big.

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<v Speaker 15>And then like it was really hard and gymnastics, I

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<v Speaker 15>would always getting fun up because all these girls persons

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<v Speaker 15>me and I'm sitting here in a legal part and

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<v Speaker 15>obviously I have the biggest figure and everyone just there.

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<v Speaker 12>And he wasn't the thing back then?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you take me? Are you to take me

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<v Speaker 3>a thigh?

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<v Speaker 14>I would take.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I would take that stick and then probably makes

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<v Speaker 12>my parts smaller on me?

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<v Speaker 3>What did your parents say? Did your parents know you

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<v Speaker 3>had to do that?

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<v Speaker 12>So my mom found out when I was around sixteen,

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<v Speaker 12>and she told me like she's like, you know, self

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<v Speaker 12>worth and you know everything was within outwards, but you know.

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<v Speaker 13>As I got older, like having a body became a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, thank you, I'm sure I had to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with that, Mama, No, thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, guys, whose auto morning?

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<v Speaker 7>What I'm hearing?

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<v Speaker 12>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>It boils down just the sexualizing and objectifying of of

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<v Speaker 4>of black women, and you know, women at a thicker

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<v Speaker 4>and just jealousy and envy of black women and women

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<v Speaker 4>at a thickness because if I'm following the dress code

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<v Speaker 4>with min your business right right.

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<v Speaker 5>So we don't know if the Costco worker was white

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<v Speaker 5>or black, though this is our experiences.

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<v Speaker 7>She was black.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I've never seen anybody take their thighs to make

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<v Speaker 6>it look smaller. But I know I've seen girls tape

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<v Speaker 6>under their butt cheek.

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<v Speaker 7>Can I say that under their butt cheek to give them.

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<v Speaker 3>All took.

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<v Speaker 7>Hold over?

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<v Speaker 3>What does that do? Now?

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<v Speaker 7>Like if you tape under your butt but.

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<v Speaker 14>Work?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, to give you that little pie?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you wanted to be smaller? Though? Is she trying

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<v Speaker 3>to compress it now?

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<v Speaker 1>The butt is cool?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, everybody want to do this.

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<v Speaker 5>Person at Costco is probably just having a problem with

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<v Speaker 5>that manager in particular.

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<v Speaker 7>She got a person.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, she fine, I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, okay, So it just depends.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, and charlest and they have the port.

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<v Speaker 5>So a lot of times they complain about women wearing

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<v Speaker 5>because women are now working out there, they complain about

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<v Speaker 5>them wearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Leggings to work.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like you should wear cargo pants. You should

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<v Speaker 5>wear like a thicker material if you and in an.

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<v Speaker 7>Environment like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but leggings amongst mostly men out that we have

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<v Speaker 5>to consider those things as women.

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<v Speaker 6>Men have to consider those things. Why do women have

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<v Speaker 6>to change their attire? Like the men need to change

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<v Speaker 6>their mindset?

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<v Speaker 7>Like focus on your not very support it's important.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you. But what if it's hard for

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<v Speaker 3>them to focus.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, then they need to change their focus. That's not

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<v Speaker 7>that's not the ladies fault. Put on your legs. It's

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred and ten degrees out there.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, ain't no man complaining wash them.

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<v Speaker 8>But washing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we call them wood pants.

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<v Speaker 15>Boy, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>You wear them all day long and when you take

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<v Speaker 4>them off wool.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, keep a lot when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>We got your room and report. We got to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Lizzo about eighteen minutes ago. Twenty minutes ago, Lizzo

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<v Speaker 2>actually left the statement. We'll get that statement. Read that

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<v Speaker 2>statement to you guys. So don't know if it's the

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<v Speaker 2>breakfast club.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning,