WEBVTT - Kyrie Irving's Ugly Breakup in Brooklyn 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.880 You're tuned into Heat Check with Trista Crick. 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:09.200 On this episode of The Heat Check, I joined Damien 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.960 Barling on The Dlo and Casey Show on ESPN thirteen 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:16.119 twenty in Sacktown, always one of my favorite times of 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:17.959 the week talking to the boys, and let's face it, 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:20.840 the vibes were immaculate, and I thought I would share 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.279 it with my folks on the Heat Check podcast. Let's 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:28.120 not waste any time, Nick, go ahead and drop that beat. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:38.000 What is happening? What is this? 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.680 The Blair trist the Blair Crick Project, Like, whoa, what 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:42.559 is going on? 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.640 Well, I'm in New York right now, and so I'm 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.960 in this hotel that I'm in the little library area 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.400 where there was food, and my hotel that I'm actually 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.360 staying at is a couple of blocks down the street. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.920 But I had just finished eating, and so there's like 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.760 this little back area that I can charge my phone 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.440 and it's not going to interrupt anyone. But I realize 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.000 I'm like right up against the lamp, and I was like, 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.560 and I was like, this looks really. I mean, you 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.600 guys make fun of me from my living room and 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:14.840 how dark the background is? 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.839 I mean it's a whole new level. It's a whole 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:17.320 new level. 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:18.280 It's slinky. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:23.000 It's literally just your face. That's now we can see 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.959 your hands with the like no, it's. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.080 It's also I've got a black sweater on, so. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.919 It's just it's all it's just all darkness. That's that's 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.080 we know, it's perfect. I mean, this just adds to 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.040 the it's it's just adds to the fun of talking 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:38.360 to you. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.800 I feel like we're at one of Trista's speed dating 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.759 tables that she's had to stop at as on sort 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.240 of you know, going around the room like we've got 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.040 like two minutes and then she's got to move to 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:50.760 the next table. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.080 If only, if only I was not lucky to be 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:58.280 on speed days. My day is Bizara. I'm looking for 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.080 some wall trousers after. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:06.080 It's excellent that so I assume, uh w f A N. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:07.800 That's that's why you're no. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.520 Dnist appointments today, the old New York YEP. So I 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.120 had to get some new visilne put in. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.520 And then I don't know if you guys can tell, 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.960 but I got some new little new littelashes, uh all right, 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:24.400 and so then yeah, they my dnnist appointments only on 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.840 Friday morning, so I had to come up Thursday and 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.840 then leave Saturday. So I'm gonna go and see some friends. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.080 I actually I'm getting dinner with Jake Fisher tonight. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.320 Okay, I'm gonna try to get some get some tea 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.320 on this Kyrie Irving news. 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.800 No, well we'll we'll We'll get to Kyrie here, uh 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.080 in just a heartbeat, and I'm sure you'll share the 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.920 tea with us, uh when you get the opportunity. But 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.840 you fired up as all of us were last night, 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.080 Uh to see Daron Fox miss out on on the 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.320 All Star Game. And you're connected around the league, so 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:55.880 it's up to you. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.799 T K Like I was a little. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:04.680 Worried that I might be complicit or an accessory to 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.880 crime if a ride actually took place, because I said 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.280 we riot at dawn, and then I think King's player 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:12.440 also said let's. 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:18.840 Riot, yeah, and I was like, let's not really. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.959 Riot because if my tweets the first one, then it's 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.360 a January sixth situation I'm not trying. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:25.600 To get into all. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.160 Clearly, you're in New York, so you can ride at 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.720 the at the NBA offices. We understand what's happening here. 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.160 I'm going myself like that girl at the Minnesota Timberwolves 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:38.960 playing game. 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.360 I'm just gonna stick it to the window. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.520 Has glued herself to Adam Silver's door in a deer 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:49.640 in Fox Jersey. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.800 In Fox Jersey, there it is. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.880 I speculated that that coaches were trying to make some 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.880 grand point by selecting a bunch of defais guys like 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:05.760 Paul George and Jaren Jackson and Drew Holliday at the 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.560 expense of a guy like Taron Fox. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.920 Are you guys the type of people who think about 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:16.039 the All Star Game as an accolade and an accomplishment, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.760 or are you guys of the mind that the All 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.680 Star Game is primarily an event for fans and to 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.480 entertain fans. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:27.000 Both. 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:32.360 I think it's the first because I think players, I mean, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.040 their contracts are based off of All Stars, like whether 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.320 they make the Hall of Fame, you have to accumulate 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:42.599 some of these accolades. And to me, like the players, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.719 they do think a lot of it. Like I've talked 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.160 to Sabonis about the potential for Fox to be there 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.359 and what it would mean, and he was just like 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.040 he wanted him to be there to get the experience 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.120 of it, like how amazing it is. And Fox had 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.880 been there for like rookie rookie sophomore game stuff, But 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.919 to be part of the big game is just different 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.280 and it has a different feel and vibe and you're 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.600 thought of differently as a player when you have that 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.880 All Star It's not like Major League Baseball All Star 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.720 where every team gets an All Star and then you know, 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.560 or the NFL, where didn't the Ravens quarterback. It's through 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.080 four touchdowns make the Pro Bowl? 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.000 Snowpuntley? Yep, it Snoopuntley. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.320 Yeah he made the Pro Bowl, and so did Derek Carr, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.400 you know who had that great line yesterday. But yeah, 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.080 I kind of look at it that way, like in 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.680 the NBA, it's a huge accomplishment that if you don't 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.120 stack those accomplishments, you don't have an opportunity to be 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:38.799 a Hall of Famer. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:39.600 Yeah. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.560 I think I'm of that mindset too. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.679 But when I think about it like a fan event 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.320 as well, I say to myself and I tweeted this, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:52.320 does anyone really want to watch whatever Jaron Jackson's jump 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.440 shot is out there? Like? Do we want to see 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.240 his defense do we want when you talk about like 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.960 getting defensive guys, why do we want defensive guys in 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:02.800 the All Star Game? 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:03.960 Like we really don't. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.560 I want to see the box use his impressive dribbling 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.719 skills to successfully fake out his opponent. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.440 Like that's what I want to see, you know what 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.039 I mean? I want to see him in the mid range. 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.560 I want to see his floater. I want to see 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:21.040 his speed and athleticism. I could really care less about 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.200 Jerry Jackson Junior and I am a fan of the 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.080 Memphis Grizzlies. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.960 Yeah, oh, we're going to revisit that. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.800 But I think it goes to the first thing you 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.880 said though, like is it is it is an at? 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:36.240 Is it an accolade or is it a a showcase 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.680 for the fans? I think coaches may have looked at 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.599 it as an accolade, And of course there's components of both, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.080 as James mentioned, because there's incentives and contracts, so that's important. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.000 But the accolade part of it that that's that's It's like, 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.279 all right, we've got shooters and Kyrie doesn't play a 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.200 lick at defense and he's starting, so we're gonna put 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.160 Drew Holliday in and we're damn it, we're gonna take 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.440 control of our league again, and we're gonna bank all 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.360 stars at a defensive players. So we'll put this guy 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.400 who's played thirty something games into it and averages fifteen 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.680 points per game rather than Daron Fox or I mean, hell, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.400 even games. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.600 Do you think that the solution is also to put 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:16.680 you have to play a. 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.520 Minimum a certain minimum amount of games in order to 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:20.440 be eligible. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.720 Well, that's that's the case with postseason awards or not, 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:31.520 maybe not postseason awards like MVP points, like you have 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.560 to play a certain amount of games. And I think 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.600 James has said earlier Jaron Jackson leads the league in blocks, 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.840 but he's not actually eligible to lead the league in blocks. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.800 No, yeah, he's not. He hasn't played enough games. I 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:48.960 was even telling Damian too Trisa that I was talking 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.040 about this with my son and my son said, well, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.720 do you know about the whole block thing with Jaron Jackson? 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.680 And I'm like, no, what do you mean he is? Oh, 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.080 look at his block numbers at home versus on the road, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.720 seventy seven blocks in eighteen games at home and thirty 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.360 seven blocks and seventeen games at home, I mean on 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.080 the road. So they're like around the league, it's known 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.880 that their their scorekeepers are giving him blocks for things 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.560 that aren't blocks, and they're patting his stats, and it 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.240 comes down to, like, what exactly are we doing here? 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.600 Like it should be the best of the best, And 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:27.320 if you're gonna reward Jaron Jackson for being on the 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.720 Western Conference number two overall team, then forget that Aaron 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.360 Gordon's a better player. He should have made it on 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.080 a better team as the Denver Nuggets. So I get 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.840 you don't want two representatives from the same team rewarding, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.920 you know, getting rewarded, But if you're gonna do it 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.480 with one, then like again, Jaren Jackson just didn't make 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.559 any not on anyone's board as far as what was 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.240 he number twelve in Ford's in the Western Conference when 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:55.520 it came to aggregate score. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:57.280 That just didn't make any sense. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.599 Yeah, And I think the thing that also is frustrating 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:05.400 is just how they formulate the teams, because you you know, 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.960 somebody said this in my mentions, and I think this 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.440 is true in terms of like Jaron Jackson obviously playing 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.959 a different position than Fox, and so you've already got 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:20.520 your guard slots already set, and so there's an additional 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.920 slot that Jaron Jackson for a forward, you know, position 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.000 that he could get in. So they said, oh, well, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.400 would you if you had to choose, then would you 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:32.440 take out Jaw or Sga or Dame if you were 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.240 going to put in Fox? And I'm like, wellhy challenge 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.920 this premise completely because maybe there's just more. Maybe there's 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.080 just more guards that are All Stars this year that 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:41.920 are playing in an all star calibern. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.720 Well, I would add this too, like, it's very possible 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.280 that they loaded up on forwards because they know that 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.520 Zion isn't going to play, and so when they replace 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.040 Zion with somebody else, it doesn't have to be a forward, 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.640 right because they've already loaded up on so many forwards, 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.760 and it would leave the possibility to add a player 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.000 like Fox in the next round. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.319 They better use him as the replacement. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:08.040 Otherwise, like we we are writing, we will, you're gonna 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.239 take it. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:15.960 Twisted someone, which is just a massive curve ball from Tristan. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:21.520 You look like the death Row magazine Vibe cover and 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:22.760 I can't unsee it. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:23.000 Now. 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.240 That's a tremendous compliment. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.840 I just can't unsee it. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.120 I have that on my wall in my my house 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:31.920 that I grew up in. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.200 Oh that that's iconic. It is just as it? 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.400 Uh, someone can someone make this on Photoshop? 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.360 Can they add me it? And like, can you put 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.200 it on Twitter? We just see what it would look like. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.920 Say they put Lebron's head on Willem Dafoe the other 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.640 day for me from the platoon poster. So yes, they 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:51.800 can trist to. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.200 I guarantee they're already working on it. It'll it'll, it'll 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.319 be in your mentions by the time the calls over. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.320 So you're in New York. How about the if that 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.000 keeps on giving? You mentioned it earlier? Kyrie wants out 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:08.120 of Brooklyn, And from what we read from Adrian Wajhanowski 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.400 a few minutes ago, is that teams are calling asking 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.760 about Kevin Durant, like, Hey, how far are you going 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.840 to take this thing over the course of the next week. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.400 Yeah, And if I'm Brooklyn, what is your what is 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.720 your real incentive to do what he wants? 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:24.080 What is it? Like? 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.040 I don't think you have any you know, you know 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.840 he wants to stay there, you know he wants to 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:31.320 be there. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.480 The entire reason for the. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.480 Trade request is salary and him getting a contract extension 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.640 that he is not being offered, and them wanting to 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.000 see what they have in the postseason with him before 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.439 they do any of that, right, because he's a gigantic 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.320 headache when he's not one of the best players on 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.360 the court, which he's been awesome this year. He's been 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.520 really really good when he's not suspended. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:57.040 And so that's one component. And so if you say, well. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:58.560 I'm sorry, we're just not going to trade you by 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.360 the deadline, like you're just I have to figure it out. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.760 And if if you need to get paid whatever is 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.679 your max through the bird rights, then you're going to 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.920 have to work with us with the sign trade. And 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.360 that's just what it is. You need us, we need you, 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:16.720 et cetera. So why why feel rushed to do that 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.360 when teams are only going to take advantage of you 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.360 given the desperation in him being on an expiring. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.920 Yeah, is this I mean, this is one of the 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.800 few players that I can remember where he's going to 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.160 be worth a certain amount as a player and he's 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.480 worth a totally different amount as a human being. I mean, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.199 does that make sense? Like I don't think that he's 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.040 like he's making thirty six million this year, which again 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.200 he should be a forty something million dollar player, but 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.600 he's not. And I have this feeling that, like he's 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.600 not going to get that big contract that you would 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.160 expect unless it's from brook Brooklyn, who you know has 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:58.079 a ton of money and a huge market. But I mean, 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.040 even like if you go to the Lakers, you're not 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.760 getting the money. Well, I guess you could if they're 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.320 able to complete a trade, because then they would have 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.079 as Larry Bird rights, but just as like an asset 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.000 going around, you're not going to be able to get 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.200 like dollar per dollar for what he should be like 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.200 worth as as as a player. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.520 And on top of that, you've got Ruby Haschi Mura 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.960 there who's also going to want a deal in the 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.480 off season, which is going to take up quite a 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:26.679 bit of your cap space. 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.679 And so at this point the math mathon. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.960 Unless you're sending Russell Westbrook to the Brooklyn Nets, which 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:38.000 which you're doing, yeah, or you're doing a three team 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.400 trade and sending Russ to like Chicago or something and 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.720 trying to figure I don't know that Kevin Durant, if 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.160 Kevin Duran ends up playing with Russell Westbrook again, which 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.920 I don't think he wants. I mean, what do you 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:51.520 what do you? What are we doing here? 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:52.120 Really? 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:54.800 I don't know. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.199 I never know what we're Kyrie irving, to be honest 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.679 with you, I just I Lebron's out here tweeting I 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.959 emojis and crowns like, don't I don't know what's happening 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.760 with with with your king. We looked at Phoenix having 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:15.160 a really intriguing potential offer. I feel like we mentioned 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.080 another team, James Oh, Miami Miami potentially having something, but 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.200 it felt like Phoenix worked the best. But there's that, 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:26.240 and you noted this a minute ago. There's that weird. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.040 Why would Phoenix do this unless they knew that Kyrie 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.240 was staying long term, because you'd you'd probably have to 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.400 move with Calbridge, you'd have to move someone you value 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.880 to get Kyrie back. And that's what the weird thing 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.360 hanging over all of this is is you talk about 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.200 the incentive to do what he wants. No team is 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.280 going to make a deal, no team like Phoenix, I 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.240 should say, I feel like the Lakers will do whatever 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.440 just because they're the Lakers. I don't think Phoenix or 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.120 Miami makes any sort of deal unless they have assurances 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.080 that they can have him on their team for at 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:58.440 least another couple. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.880 Of years, which means, then, okay, Kyrie, we're going to 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.400 offer you a two year deal, and if we do 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.600 this trade, you're going to accept the two year deal. 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.920 Means you're gonna have to sign this now, like secretly, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.560 and then we're gonna submit it when it's the time 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.440 for us to submit it, Like it's gonna have to 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.440 all be locked up where there's no funny business. Because 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.800 if I was worried about funny business with any player 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.120 in the NBA, them changing their minds, them going back 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.240 on their words, them deciding they need to step away 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.880 for whatever reason, that would be Kyrie Irving. Right. 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:31.760 So, if you're a. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.760 Team and you're in the risk management business, unlessen Phoenix 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.440 has had their own fair share of controversies as well, right, 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.680 you don't want to be having another issue or a 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:46.520 potential blowback controversy that you really did not need to have, 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.800 Like it would be an unmitigated disaster. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.720 Yeah, it's so avoidable. Wait you just yeah, I mean, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.120 could it work out and he makes your team great, sure, 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.800 but it could also not work out and you could 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.120 be like stuck in a gigantic nightmare of a situation 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:07.240 with him both financially and the pr stuff which you 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.880 talked about. There are certain teams that can do it, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.080 and then there I think Phoenix is one team that 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.560 you might look at and go like, you can't because 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.080 they're the team that's actually going to have to give 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.960 up true value. Like if you look at the Lakers, 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.680 like regardless of what my friend Damien here thanks of 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:29.280 Russell Westbrook, Like in NBA standards, it's not value, like 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:33.280 you're not getting value for him. And where you know 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.480 mckail Bridges. If you're gonna get Bridges or you're gonna 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.600 get Cam Johnson, you're gonna get a stack of players. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:42.280 Those are valuable pieces, long term contracts, young players that 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.160 can help you today and you know, kind of further 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.760 what you're trying to do, maybe both teams get get 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.480 help in this situation where again like Dallas doesn't have 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.640 something to offer like that, and and even the Lakers 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.080 they don't have something to offer like that. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.240 If you're Dallas and you're Brooklyn, do you accept like 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:07.919 Dorian Finney Smith and Tim Hardaway and like Jaden Hardy 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.280 or something for Kyrie, and like, do you do that? 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.000 Deal? Does those. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.680 I don't know how the math checks out, but that's 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.760 probably not like, it's probably not a horrible option for 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:24.320 Brooklyn in the sense of the like, Kyrie's obviously very good, 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.440 but the reason you're a championship contender or potential championship 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.240 is because of Kevin Durant. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.560 Kevin Durant is one of the best basketball players on Earth. 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.919 And if you can surround him like that, it simply 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.800 boils down to what compliments KD and if they can 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.480 determine that those guys do, I'm all for it. I 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.800 personally would love to see Kyrie and Luka Dancic let 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.679 me see that. I want to watch that implode. I 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.800 will watch every Dallas Mavericks game on League Pass to 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.159 make sure I am tuned in live when that inevitably 0:17:58.200 --> 0:17:58.720 goes bad. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.600 Someone tried to get King the Kings in the mix, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.040 said would the Kings be interested in Kyrie Irving? 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.359 And I was like, what, I don't believe that that happened. 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.800 No, what are you serious? Is there a team that 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.280 makes less sense than them? 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.160 I believe our friends at the Kings. 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:18.280 Harold wrote an article and the article said, well no, 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.520 and that was the end of the article. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.440 What are we doing? Like, what are we doing? Guys? 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:25.200 What is this? 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.919 We will step in as a fan base and just 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.440 say hard pass fan, we're good. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.440 Also, what has not been mentioned in all of this, 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:35.600 and I think, and I hadn't thought about it until 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:40.159 just today, is we're in the period of time right now. 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.800 Where normally in normal years. 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.000 Past, like two three years ago, pre pandemic, at this point, 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.960 all attention and focus is on the Super Bowl, right 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.560 and then what you've had is a change obviously with 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:58.240 the eighteen weeks season, but also the trade deadline moving backwards. 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.959 Usually the trade deadline happens around All Star Game. I 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:06.200 remember when Boogie Cousins was traded in New Orleans right 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:07.400 after the All Star Game. 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:08.520 So I love the. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.760 City he was traded during. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.080 Oh yeah it was during. Yeah, it was difcent. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.800 I had to confirmed during the actual Star. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.479 Game like he's going, okay, that's insane. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.560 So now the war between the NFL and the NBA 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.879 is just fully on, right, NBA and croaching on the 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.040 All Star Game, and or NFL and coroaching on the 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.160 NBA All Star Game, NFL and croaching on the NBA 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.280 playoffs with the draft, and then the NBA clapping back 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.880 and saying, that's fine, We'll just have Kyrie Irving requested 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:37.520 trade and Pro Bowl. 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:38.320 How about that. 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.880 We're going to ruin your Pro Bowl, your crappy Pro 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:42.760 Bowl all next week, all. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.119 Next week, the week where all of the excitement is 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:45.600 supposed to. 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:51.200 Be on Jalen Herds and this big Patrick Mahomes matchup, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.159 and everybody's just talking about NFL, NFL, NFL, and it's like, no, 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.200 it's trade deadline weeks. Trade deadline week. Is Cape Kevin 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.840 Durant going to be traded? Because that's what I care about. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.359