1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Ben Mahler 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: from two to six Eastern eleven pm to three am 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and to find your local 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: station for the Benmatlers Show at Foxsports Radio dot com. 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: You can find it there or stream us live every 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: night on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: This is the best of the Ben Maler Show on 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: We begin this hour in the Valley of the Sun, 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: and that's where we're going to begin. Another name has 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: been added to the coaching ranks. Here, another box on 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: the big board has been filled. If you have not 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: heard and maybe you missed it. Maybe you missed it. 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I don't know the news out we have learned the 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals that is plausibly an NFL team, not a good one. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: The Cardinals have picked their new. 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Coach and it's some brotherly love. The Cardinals going for 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: not a Philadelphia guy, but brotherly love. Mike the Flir 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: who Mike the Flair is the coach of the Cardinals. 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: The former Rams offensive coordinator, former Rams offensive cot de 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: grease to wait five year contract to be the head 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: coach and he will be heading off to the Valley 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: of the Sun. Arizona wanted Clint Kobiak, he didn't want them. Instead, 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: he chose the Raiders. Matter, having to pick between the 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: Raiders and Cardinals, it's like would I rather be Do 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: I want the electric chair or firing squad? 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: Which one do I want? I don't know? Metaphorically of course. 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: All right, So the Cardinals owners sent out this glowing 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: statement and I gotta give you some of this. It's 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: such bull crap. I want to share it with you. 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: It's so much fun at These are so much fun, man? 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: Are they good? 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: The statement from the owner said, Mike Lafleur possessed quote 35 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: all the traits necessary to lead this team to success. 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: Hmm okay that. 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: You had to announce that he had all the traits? 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: Isn't that kind of obvious you hired him? Wouldn't it 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: be kind of obvious that you have all the traits 40 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: but they had to announce it. Then the statement went 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: on to say he's highly intelligent. Well that's good. Were 42 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: you planning and hiring someone stupid? Does that mean the 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: last coach is an idiot and quote exceptionally sharp? 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: Doesn't that go with highly intelligent. 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you assume someone who's highly intelligent is exceptionally sharp? 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: But what do I know? I just do the Overnight Show. 47 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: He was also praised for his creative football mind. Michael Lafleur, really, 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: oh so someone who's creative as opposed to the other 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: coaches that weren't creative? 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: All right? 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Described as a quote dynamic and innovative leader. What is 52 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: your evidence on that? Because he's never been a head coach? 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: What is your evidence on that? I can go on 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: and on. Now Leve Flair, who's the thirty eight year old, 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the younger, younger brother, and he replaces Jonathan Gannon who 56 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: was whack adoodle out of Arizona there in early January. 57 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: So this has been an almost month long process or process, 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: and they land on they being the Cardinals, land on 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: Mike the Flur, another NEPO baby getting the job there. 60 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: So that is a good jumping off point. Let us 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: discuss the question Mike the Flur, the newest NFL head coach, 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: he joins the Cardinals. Does this move excite the fan 63 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: base there in Arizona? 64 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: Does it excite the fan base? 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: So I've got my observation on this I've got NBC 66 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: hit show Stagehand and Anderson Windows and Doors, and we 67 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: will combine all of these things together and we're gonna 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: play ABC one two three, ABC one two three. 69 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: So number. 70 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Enough, all right, no one, And when I say I 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: mean no one, no one is going to even roll 72 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: over in bed. Who's a Cardinal fan, even a casual fan. 73 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Hiring Mike Leflur as your head coach is the biggest 74 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: dud you could possibly have. Way to go, Cardinals, Way 75 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: to go. You're not even gonna stretch, you forget you 76 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: roll No, there's no stretching. You're not even gonna check 77 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: your phone. You just hit the snooze and you're in 78 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: the snooze cruise is what you're on right there. 79 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: It's so bad. 80 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: The Cardinals continue every coaching hire. They're remaking that early 81 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: two thousands, all the way up until twenty seventeen, that 82 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: NBC hit show The Apprentice, hosted by. 83 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: Our current president. 84 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: And because it's when you get the Cardinal job, it's 85 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: an apprentice situation, is what it is. Right, Arizona is 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: running in NFL trade school when it comes to the 87 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: head coach and it's like, come on down, you want 88 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: to be a head coach. All right, we'll make your 89 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: come true. Why not get your feet wet, learn on 90 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: the job. Just don't break anything expensive, and you can 91 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: pretend to be a head coach in the NFL. You 92 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: get credit on your Pro Football reference page and all that. 93 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: There is a pattern here. It's patternicity is what it is. 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: If you look at the pattern here, one unproven leader 95 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: after another. Now, even when you hire a proven coach, 96 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee at least the person's shown the pedigree 97 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: when they've done it before, that they can do it again. 98 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: And while I am not totally against hiring first time coaches, 99 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: when all you do is hire first time head coaches, 100 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: well that becomes a problem also. So that is now 101 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: my malord math atract not one, not two, not three, 102 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: not four, not five, six consecutive, six straight head coaches 103 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: that have had no real head coaching experience or any 104 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: head coaching experience in the past as the full time 105 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: head coach. There was something that were interim coaches, but 106 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: the full time head coach that is not happen here. 107 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: So at this point I would think there's not many 108 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals fans. 109 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 4: It's very small. 110 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: It's called narrow casting, not broadcasting. But we are on 111 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: in the valley the Sun. You wouldn't know that because 112 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: we hardly get any calls from Cardinal fans. I wouldn't 113 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: call either. I'd be embarrassed if I was a Cardinal fan. 114 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: But anyway, so the fans got to be numb at 115 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: this point, emotionally frostbitten. 116 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: If you will. 117 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: Here the franchise. They live in the suburbs, the Cardinals franchise. 118 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: It's mediocrity meadows. It's a nice suburban neighborhood out far 119 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: away from town. And you text the fans. 120 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: Here's what they should do. The Cardinals should. 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Text their fans when and if Mike Lafleur actually does 122 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: anything memorable, they can let them know, say, well, we 123 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: actually hire somebody to do what they were doing, and 124 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: I just don't hold your breath. Don't hold your breath. 125 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: That's probably not going to happen here. And he wasn't 126 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: even plan a he wasn't even planning. Now the streets 127 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: are buzzing, as we mentioned, the streets are buzzing that 128 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals wanted Clint Kobiak and he wanted to go 129 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: to Vase. You'll imagine how bad. Your franchise has to 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: be for someone to pick the over your team. Have 131 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: you seen the Raiders the last twenty years? Their embarrassment, right, 132 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: like all the tough rate. When I was a kid, 133 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders were badass. Their fans were badass, and now 134 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: all of them are middle aged old dudes who used 135 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: to be badass, And. 136 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 4: It's really mean. 137 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: That's it. 138 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, anybody younger is like, I'm not a Raider fan. 139 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: They suck embarrassing. You can't really be a tough guy 140 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: with edge wearing Raider merch when they lose every game 141 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: or just about every game, and they commitment to excellence. 142 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: They tried to lose this year to get the number 143 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: one pick, and there's no great quarterback in the draft. 144 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: They lost intentionally to get the top pick, and they're 145 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: stuck with the guy's a fourth round talent in Fernando 146 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: Mendoza at the top of the draft. 147 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: Good luck with that anyway. 148 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Back to the point, so the Cardinals here, they hire 149 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: the son or they wanted to hire the son of 150 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: an NFL coach. They couldn't do that, so they hired 151 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: the brother of an NFL coach in Mike Lafleur. It's 152 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: a brothers act, is what it is here. So the 153 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: floor brothers think about this. Over twelve percent of NFL 154 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: coaches are related as as brothers. You've got the Harbrov 155 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: brothers with the Giants and the Chargers, and now you 156 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: have the flour Blood brothers with the Cardinals and the 157 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. So we've seen this type of movie 158 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: before with the Cardinals, and I don't expect the ending 159 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: to be. 160 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: Any different here now. 161 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Page two though, one of the big selling points, and 162 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to get into this with you, one of 163 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: the big selling points as well. Yeah he's never been 164 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: a head coach, Michael for but but uh yeah, he's 165 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: got listen, he's got the tree. He's got the tree. 166 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: He's part of you know who's coaching tree. 167 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: All right? 168 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: So question, do you believe the Sean McVey connection, the 169 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: McVey coaching tree angle is a good omen for Michael 170 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Lafleur having success in Arizona. So I'll answer this by 171 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: saying it means nothing. It means nothing, okay, and more 172 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: so with the Rams. Now, there have been some McVeigh 173 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: assistants that have gone on and did good things, but 174 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: it's not because of Sean McVay. 175 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: It's because they knew what they were doing. 176 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: And it's always odd to me to hire someone because 177 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: they happen to be part of a successful coach, because 178 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: the most successful coaches do it mostly by themselves. Andy 179 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: Reid in Kansas City, I put Sean mcvah in that 180 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: same basket, and people act like Sean McVay. He's gonna 181 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: leave a little container of secret potion and he's gonna 182 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: take it out of the sorcerer's workshop. He's gonna give 183 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: it to Lafleur and say, Okay, you're my guy. Here's 184 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: a little potion, and you can do that. And why 185 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: not even though this guy, Michae Lafleur has been riding 186 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,359 Speaker 1: the caboose on the McVeigh train. 187 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: And mcveigh's in the steam engine. Mcveigh's in the steam engine. 188 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: And so that's what we've got, and so it guarantees 189 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: Bupkus squad is what it guarantees here. And mcveigh's not 190 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: some cheerleader, raw raw, let's go it is. I think 191 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: of a cheerleading coach. I think of Robert Sala cheerleader, right, 192 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: raw ra guy, great order, great talker, silvertongue devil, Robert 193 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: Salah McVeigh. He's a control freak in terms of the office. 194 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: It's his production. Think of it like a movie, and 195 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: McVeigh wrote the script. He's in charge of the cameras, 196 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: in charge of wardrobe, in charge of where they're going 197 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: to film the movie. 198 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: All of that. 199 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: Everyone else is a stage hand. So you just hired 200 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: a stage hand. Congratulations, Arizona Cardinals. You hired a stage hand. 201 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: And McVeigh runs that production. That's what he does here. 202 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: So if you want to talk about the resume, Michael 203 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: Laflora already ran his own show with the Jets. You 204 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: might not remember that because why would you? And did 205 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: not did not make it unscathed when he ran the 206 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: Jets offense, how did that go? 207 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: Don't ask? 208 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Do not ask? Is puke in your mouth bad? When 209 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: he was with the Jets, he ran the offense for 210 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: two years. The Jets ranked thirty first and eighteenth in offense. 211 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: There's only thirty two teams and boom goes the dynamite 212 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: and he was shown the door. Get out of here, 213 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: went to Sean mcvay's coaching rehab clinic out in Malibu, 214 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: and now he's back as an NFL head coach, so 215 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: not exactly a glow up. When he was coaching the 216 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: Jets offense there did not go that well. And here 217 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: we are, so and the issue is this Arizona kind 218 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: of like the Jets. Right, they're the Jets, but they 219 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: have cactus and sand instead of Jersey diners in pollution 220 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: and all that, and so. 221 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: You look at it. 222 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: They don't have an elite quarterback. Their quarterback's really good 223 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: with a joystick, not a football. That's a problem. 224 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: They're gonna get rid of him anyway. 225 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: So they don't have a quarterback, and they don't really 226 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: have a solid roster. It's pretty mediocre roster that seems 227 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: to be problematic. And it's like hope in a paper bag. Well, 228 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't see that. It looks like we know it's hoping there. 229 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: We know it's an empty bag. No, there's hope in 230 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: the bag. But no, there's no there's no real hope. 231 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: There's just an empty bag. That's all it is, is 232 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: just a m bag. And so that's where the coordinators 233 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: you're supposed to earn your stripes in theory when you 234 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: don't have an elite roster and you coach guys up. 235 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: That's the argument. Coach people up and they do a 236 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: great job and all that stuff. 237 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: And in non elite situation, anyone can coach when you've 238 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: got a great roster. I mean, we'll see what Lafur 239 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: does here, but he's not gonna have McVeigh there. It's 240 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: a double edged sword because McVeigh knows Lafleur. The Cardinals 241 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: are saying, well, he's gonna have Laflour is gonna have 242 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: an edge when you play the Rams. But McVeigh also 243 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: knows what makes this guy tick. So it cuts both 244 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: ways there. It's kind of like throwing spaghetti against the 245 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: wall and seeing what sticks here. It's ay continues a 246 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: theme there with the Cardinals, the vortex of average, the 247 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: twiddling of thumbs. That's the Cardinal way. There are spam franchise. 248 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: They continue to be the Arizona Cardinals a spam franchise. 249 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: They exist so the serious teams that are trying to 250 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: win can fatten up their records. And that's it. And 251 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: if you haven't figured that out by now, I don't 252 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: know what to tell you. 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You do it today and you 276 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 5: can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, 277 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 5: Apple Podcast for wherever you get your podcasts. 278 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: It was an all star kind of a night, and 279 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: I had said it was not planning and not planning 280 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: to watch the Pro Football whatever that was the thing 281 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: they put out, was not planning on watching it. However, 282 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: the thing that I was watching, they had these these 283 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: commercial breaks, and so what I did is I occasionally 284 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: would flip over. I would do the old flip flippity flip, 285 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: and I go over there and just just to sample, 286 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: just to sample the product, just to sample what was 287 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: going on. So I thought we would start with that, right, 288 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: we'd start with that and kind of work our way 289 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: through the whole thing. As I don't know that you 290 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: were watching. I didn't want watch most of it. Roger 291 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: Goodell fighting for your eyeballs as the NFL held when 292 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: at one. 293 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: Point was a big deal. It was a point of pride. 294 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: But the NFL got so big and there's so much 295 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: money involved in the NFL, it doesn't matter anymore. The 296 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: players have quit on it, and that's what you get. 297 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: So they called the Pro Bowl. 298 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: That's quite the name for it. Might as well have 299 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: been played in a Serial Bowl and was played in 300 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: San Francisco. So if you didn't see it, we are 301 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: told that the NFC outscored the AFC thirty to eight 302 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: in the second half of this flag football game, and 303 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: they came back and won a. 304 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: Very low scoring. 305 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: Defensive battle sixty six to fifty twos. A defense does 306 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: win championships and the Pro Bowl. This's the All Star, 307 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: All Star flag football Game now Cowboys Cowboys wide receiver 308 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: George slim Pickens was named the games offensive MVP, and 309 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: he helped them come back. For those that watch the 310 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: game now, the event has been universally mocked. It has 311 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: been lampooned as a total sham by those who dared 312 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: consume the product. Many people questioning how the NFL could 313 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: put this product on that somebody must have been asleep 314 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: at the switch. It was that bad of a program 315 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: that the NFL put out there. 316 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: So that's a good jumping off point. Let us discuss 317 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: the question. 318 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: Do Roger Goodell and the NFL big shots deserve to 319 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: be mocked for the Pro Bowl or whatever that thing was. 320 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: So I've got Nuclear fallout Shelter, Olympic Gold, and Emmy Award, 321 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: and we will combine all of these things together and 322 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: we are going to make some delicious sourdough bread because 323 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people sour and they need some bread. 324 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Put those things together will make some sour dough bread. 325 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: So A the answer is to the question, do Roger 326 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: Goodell in the NFL people deserve to be mocked for 327 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? One thousand percent? Right, not one hundred percent. 328 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: One thousand percent. Poking and prodding is not just deserved, 329 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: it is mandatory. 330 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 3: It is you. 331 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: Could not get more small time rinky dink does not 332 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: begin to cover what this thing was. 333 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: This was not a Pro Bowl. This is not an 334 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: All Star game. 335 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: This was a yard sale with flags sanctioned by the 336 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: National Football League, rubbers stamped by Roger the Dodger Goodell, 337 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: the same man who keeps telling us that the league 338 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: has never been healthier, that everything's great, the revenues are wonderful, 339 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: the products, everything's just glory and great and sure if 340 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: you measure health by how quickly the prestige continues to flatline. 341 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: It's like, how low can you go? I didn't think 342 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: you could go that low. 343 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: We'll do limbo. Let's do the limbo the Pro Bowl. 344 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: At one point. 345 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: Matter now, I realize time's changed, right, and the NFL's 346 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: not a mom and pop shop anymore. It's big money 347 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: and with big money come big problems. Players are spoiled, 348 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: they're entitled, they feel it's not worth their time because 349 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: they make so much money, and now this is so great. 350 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: So the reason by and again I didn't watch most 351 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: of it. I want to be very clear, I why 352 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: it's not a product that I'm interested in. I didn't 353 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: really resonate with me so and I actually was at 354 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl back in Hawaii when it was legit, 355 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: and even then it was starting to go the wrong direction. 356 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: Players complained. When I covered the Pro Bowl in Hawaii 357 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: a million years ago, the players complained that they had 358 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: that there were a lot of most of the teams 359 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: on the East Coast, and so they had to fly 360 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: all the way across the US and fly to Hawaii 361 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: talk about hardship, and that was a generation to go. 362 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: The guys were bitching about it back then, and now 363 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: here we are, and you see what has happened. But 364 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: this thing was held, and I'm not making this up 365 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: for talk radio. This thing was held in the basement 366 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: of a convention center in San Francisco, a venue I 367 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: would assume normally holds boat show, auto expos, doctors selling 368 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: some kind of snake oil. 369 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: Maybe you can get a new nose or a butt. 370 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: In plant or something like that, and that's where they 371 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: put the NFL's All Star Game. They couldn't kick, not 372 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: because they didn't want to kick. The roof was too 373 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: low to kick. This is like back when you play 374 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: out with your boys and you're like, let's go play 375 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: in that Let's say little the weather's not great, so 376 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: let's play in the gym, and we can't throw it 377 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: too high because it'll hit the roof. They had metal bleachers, 378 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: but not many. It was like a high school gym. 379 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: In fact, most high schools I've been to have more 380 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: seating than the NFL. 381 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl had. It's great. 382 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: It's like they got together at a restaurant somewhere in 383 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: San Francisco. 384 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: Maybe they went over to the Stinking Rose, had some. 385 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: Garlic, and they decided, let's make the rules up here, 386 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: and we'll just write them on a cocktail napkin, and 387 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: that'll be. 388 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: The rules of the Pro Bowl. 389 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: Uxtaposed that to what I was watching. Again, I didn't 390 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: watch much of the Pro Bowl. I flipped over a 391 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: couple times because I couldn't believe it. It was like 392 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: watching an eighteen car pile up on the interstate. You 393 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: go back and I'm like, Wow, I can't believe that happened. 394 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: But you juxtapose that to the Westminster Kennell Club Dog Show, 395 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: which I watched. 396 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 3: I was on FS one. 397 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: My former colleague has some shows back in the day 398 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: with Chris Myers, part of the Fox Sports Radio Alumni Association, 399 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: and Chris was in a tuxedo there and he had 400 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: the play by play on the dog show. They celebrated 401 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: the one hundred and fiftieth anniversary at Madison Square Garden. 402 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: You had glitz, you had glamour, you had tradition. It 403 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: just felt big. It had standards. 404 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: The dogs. 405 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: The dogs ended up in the world's most famous arena, 406 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: the Mecca right there, Midtown Manhattan. The Pro Bowl got 407 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: to be played in a nuclear fallout shelter. 408 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: That's rocher Tell's NFL. 409 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: When a Doberman named Penny, who won the Westminster Kennel 410 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: Club Dog Show, When a Doberman named Penny looks more 411 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: big league than your star football players heads showed roll 412 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL is so embarrassing, right, he keeps saying 413 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: everything's fine and all that. No, it's just corporate spin. 414 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: You got upstaged by a dog show. If that is 415 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: not a sign things are not going well for your 416 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: little for Gayzy All Star game, I don't know what 417 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: to tell you. You need a flea back. A damn 418 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: dog show was more big league than the Pro Bowls. 419 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: So great. 420 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 421 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 422 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: It's welcome, mar contestants for the big old game. Here 423 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: mallards mountain of money. 424 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: Sure, go ahead now, Nailer's Mountain of money. 425 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: Hello, do you have what it takes to get to 426 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: the top? Probably not. 427 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: Listen, Let's let's do it. Let's do it here. I 428 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: don't know, all right, okay, whatever, I don't know. I 429 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: don't know what that is. 430 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: Let's say hello to Poppy, who's in San Diego. 431 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: Hello Poppy, welcome. 432 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: Man. 433 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: I was going I want to get them cold and chicken. 434 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: I want that blink blink blink blink. Yeah, and how's 435 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: that going to happen? Oh? Why not? Everything is possible? 436 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: You sure about that? 437 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 438 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: All right? All right, all right? 439 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Well the Poppy is a regular caller on the show, 440 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: a prolific gambler. 441 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: Right, Poppy. Yeah, friend of Adam Silver, Yes, yeah, Adam 442 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: Sober and you know maas Bella. 443 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 6: Okay, cool, we know what we know enough about Poppy. 444 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: Who do you want to partner up with Poppy? Oh? 445 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: Of course, I'm gonna have the big number one mentor perfect? 446 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 7: Okay, hold on, We've got Phase in Chicago. 447 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: Hello Phase? Wo what up? Hello? Phase? What you do 448 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: you're working? Yeah? I'm parked at a Walmart. 449 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 5: Rena delivered these oreoles. 450 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: All right, So Walmart's not gonna get their oreos right 451 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: now because you're gonna play the game, which is fine. 452 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. They can wait a few minutes 453 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: on their oreos. Yeah. And you want to partner up 454 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: with Loraina? 455 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: Yes? 456 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: Is that you're you're playing on that? Sure? Fight? 457 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: All right? 458 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 6: All right, all right, gentlemen. This is the Mallard's Mountain 459 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 6: of Money Shakira edition. She turned forty nine years old 460 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 6: on Monday. 461 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: She's gonna have hip problems when she gets old. 462 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 6: Maybe The categories are Whenever, Wherever, Waka Waka, Hips, don't Lie, 463 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 6: and deja vu. And let's see Poppy. You were on first, 464 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 6: So which category would you like? 465 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 4: Poppy? 466 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 467 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: I want trips. 468 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: Don't lie. 469 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 4: Hips don't lie because you know how to shake your hips. Poppy, 470 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 4: all right, and then Phase, how about you. 471 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 6: Voo? 472 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 7: All right, let's do it so Strip Club. Yeah, that's 473 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 7: all right, very good. We hold on a sec Phase 474 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 7: and Poppy. It is the Shakire edition of Malar's Mountain 475 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 7: of Money. And we are moments. 476 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: Away, and you are one of the live members of 477 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: the studio audience for in this case, the radio audience 478 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: will get to that and we will. 479 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: Do it next. 480 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 481 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 482 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 3: All back to what we go? It's Malar's Mountain of Money. 483 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: Are you there? 484 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: Poppy, Poppy, Okay, there's Bobby. We have Phase in Chicago, 485 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: Poppies in San Diego. Hello, Phase, Dug bars, dumb bars. 486 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: All right, let's play the game here. You're the Shakira edition. Bobby. 487 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: You picked Hips don't lie? Yes, all right, hips don't lie. 488 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: These these sports figures did lie? Are you ready? 489 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: We'll put forty. 490 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: Five seconds on the clock. We're on our way and go. 491 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: He was with the Yankees. He lied about steroids. Also 492 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: played for the Seattle Mariners infielders. Yes, urger coach at Alabama, 493 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: he said he was not he was coaching the Dolphins. 494 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: He said he wasn't gonna go to Alabama. Yes, all 495 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: time hit king for the Cincinnati Reds. In baseball, Yeah, 496 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: all good job. Hebrew hammer for the Milwaukee Brewers. He 497 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: lied about steroids. Also, all right, linebacker from Notre Dame. 498 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: He had a fake girlfriend that died. Yeah, coach, I 499 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: hope we'll take that Olympic swimmer. Olympic swimmer who lied 500 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: about you got rob at gun No, lied at gunpoint. 501 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: He was robbing gunpoint. He lied about it, all right. 502 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: Dominican infielder MVP for the Athletics. 503 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: That's fine. 504 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: You can have man Tito. 505 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm still going to beat you. You're not You're not. 506 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: Ryan Lochtey, Ryan. 507 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 6: Braun and Miguel Tejada were the ones that you missed there. 508 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 6: All right, phase, we have deja vu. 509 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 510 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 6: These athletes had a second stint with the same team. Uh, 511 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 6: forty five seconds of the clock. 512 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: Are you ready? All right, let's begin the machine. 513 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 6: In baseball, he was with the Cardinals and the Angels, 514 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 6: then back to the Cardinals. 515 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 4: Yes. 516 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 517 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: The kid in baseball. He was with the Mariners initially 518 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: he is his dad played to Robert Robert Damn grif. 519 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 6: Yes, say yep, all right, this guy he was running 520 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 6: back for the Cowboys. 521 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 4: He would like wear a mid drift a lot of 522 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: the times. 523 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 6: Wow, cool man, recent recent, recent running back for the Cowboys. 524 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 4: Yes. Uh. 525 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 6: This guy was the point guard for the Pistons when 526 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 6: they won the championship against the Lakers. All right, Uh, 527 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 6: this guy has long dreads or he used to have 528 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 6: long dreads for the Pittsburgh Pirates. 529 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: You want to take back that guarantee, coop, because he's 530 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: not looking very good right now? 531 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: All right, well we have one hundred points. Yeah, we 532 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 4: have learning one hundred and twenty. 533 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 6: All right, all right, Phase do you want waka waka 534 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 6: or whenever? 535 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 3: Wherever? Whatever? 536 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: No, I'm phase not poppy? Phase? 537 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: Phase? 538 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: Which one did you want? 539 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: Wherever? 540 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 4: Al Right? 541 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 6: These athletes have won a championship for multiple teams. Uh, 542 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 6: forty five seconds of the clock. Let's begin. He was 543 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 6: the all time leading scorer in the NBA before Lebron James. 544 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. 545 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 6: Uh, all right, this guy was one of the best 546 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 6: cornerbacks in football. He's a coach now his son is 547 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 6: the quarter is a quarterback for the Browns. Yes, uh, 548 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 6: this guy was a picture. He had a bloody sock 549 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 6: for the Red Sox. Yes, this guy is the first 550 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 6: basement for the Dodgers. He used to be on the Braves. Yes, 551 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 6: this guy was Jesus Shuttlesworth. 552 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: And he got game uh three point shooter for the Celtics. 553 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 6: All right. Uh, this guy was the GM for the 554 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 6: Lions when they are all right, how many yes, ray Allen, Wait. 555 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: How many points is there. 556 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: So one night? So we get seventy eighty to win? 557 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: Are you ready, poppy? 558 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: He said, Ray Allen before the buzzers. 559 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: We got that. 560 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: No, it doesn't all right, walk a walk. These athletes 561 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: were all born in Africa. Are you ready, Poppy? Yeah, 562 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: all right, forty five seconds on the clock. 563 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: We're ready to go. 564 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: He was the MVP for the Sixers a couple of 565 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: years ago. Yes, the dream for the Rockets back in 566 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties and the nineties. 567 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: The center. No, well, yes, will take yeah. No, it 568 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: sounded like. 569 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: Cookie Monster say the one there you go? All right, 570 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: we'll take that star for the Toronto Raptors. He got 571 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: traded to the Indiana Pacers. When Toronto won the championship. 572 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: He was on the team with Kawhi Leonard. 573 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: All Right. 574 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: The Nigerian Nightmare running back from the nineteen eighties. Nigerian 575 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: Nightmare for Kansas City Chiefs, No. 576 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: Chance kicker, white guy he was born in. 577 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 4: That's too bad, Bobby, Bobby, you don't know who the you. 578 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: Don't know who the Nigerian Nightmare is. I'm asking me 579 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: nightmares that guy that nineteen That guy is a legend 580 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: of the nickname. Even if you don't, even if you weren't around, 581 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: the guy's a legend. What that was for? 582 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 2: Loreno, there's for you, Lorena? 583 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: What? Yeah? Who's that? I get a golden ticket? Oh 584 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: there you go, Loree. Call in anytime.