WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Child of Mine 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.439 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord, and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:12.800 The Bengals Booth Podcast the Whoa Whoah, Sweet Child Mind 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.919 edition as we bring you a special Father's Day episode 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:22.919 featuring Jimmy Burrow, Dad of Joe, and Jimmy Chase, dad 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.320 of Jamar. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.800 by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're free to play 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.280 with tickets and sign merchandise up for grabs. Find both 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.639 inside the Bengals app and by pay Corps. More than 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:42.880 twenty nine thousand customers trust paycour to help them recruit, pay, engage, 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:47.920 and retain employees. Learn more at paycoorp dot com. Now 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.640 here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.040 edition of this podcast delivered write to your phone, tablet, 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.800 or computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:02.680 the greatest thing since bonding with your dad about sports. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.360 My love of sports came from my dad, Like many 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.840 fathers and their children, we frequently talked about sports, and 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:14.400 his favorite teams became mine. Between the NFL and NBA, 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.319 NHL and Major League Baseball, those teams have combined for 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.880 one championship. So thanks Dad for passing down a lifetime 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:27.399 of frustration. In all seriousness, most of my favorite childhood 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.199 memories involved sports, and many were spent with my dad. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.840 I can vividly remember when he took me to my 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.960 first Major League baseball game. It was nineteen seventy three. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.120 My oldest sister, Kim, was an exchange student in Argentina 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.960 and when our program was finished, we drove to New 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.720 York City to pick her up at Kennedy Airport. It 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.160 was my dad, my other older sister, Chris, and me 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.880 on that trip. My dad took us to Shay Stadium. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.880 It was August twenty eighth, the Mets against the Podres. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.800 I remember Jerry Morales leading off the game with a 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.960 home run for San Diego. I remember the impossibly high 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.680 leg kick of the Mets outstanding rookie pitcher John Mattlack. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.240 I remember how heartbroken I was that my hero Willie 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.680 Mays was not in the Mets starting lineup. And I 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.359 remember when my sister Chris asked our dad when halftime 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.720 was because she wanted to see the marching band. Chris 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.560 was not a big sports fan. Most of all, I 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.400 remember how magical it felt to be there, the immaculately 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.880 groomed perfection of a major league diamond, the enormity of 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.280 Shay Stadium while sitting in. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:35.880 The upper deck. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.880 It was a movie set come to life, and to 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.880 that point, it was, without question, the highlight of my life. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.360 Here's another great sports memory with my dad. When I 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.160 was about fourteen or fifteen years old, he took me 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:53.040 on a weekend golf trip, even though he almost never played. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.440 It was about an hour drive and the course wasn't 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.440 particularly memorable, but we played golf for three straight days, 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.640 ate every meal at restaurants, shared a hotel room, and 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.400 watched sports on TV at night. It remains one of 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.880 my favorite weekends. Ever, now that I'm a dad, I'm 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.919 savoring having similar experiences with my son. If you ask 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.720 Sam to name the best day of his life so far, 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.480 he'd undoubtedly say it was attending the Bengals Ram Super 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.440 Bowl in Los Angeles, and when he recently made his 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.639 first birdie, I felt like I'd made a hole in one. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.800 So on this Father's Day, I'm grateful for bonding over 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.720 sports with my dad, Larry Hord, my stepfather, Jack Bailey, 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.480 my father in law, Paul Rasconi and my son Sam, 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.800 and I sincerely hope that you have been as blessed 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.240 as I've been. The Bengals Booth podcast is brought to 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.280 you by Kettering Health, the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.040 With more than one hundred twenty care facilities and fifteen 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.440 hundred care providers. 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I want 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.080 to start by asking each of you guys this question. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:48.239 When did you first know that your son was different 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:52.039 from the other kids athletically. Jimmy Burrow, why don't you 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:52.880 go first. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.320 Well, you know, third, fourth, fifth grade, he was We're 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.760 in a small town, so he was the best athlete 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.800 in his age group. So but as I said, there's 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.200 not many many people here, so he kind of take 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.960 that with a grain of salt. And then as he 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.720 started playing baseball, basketball and football, just started having a 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:16.560 lot of success. And and you know, he would he 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.120 would hit home runs and score a lot of points 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:23.560 in basketball. So it was just probably just several things, 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.599 but really football tenth grade is when I realized that 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.920 he could he could really have some opportunities to play 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.080 Division one football. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.160 Jimmy Chase, how about you? 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:35.680 Oh? 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.480 I want to say it started like around seven, eight, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:43.280 nine years old. He's playing basketball and this is his 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.560 first year playing basketball, and all the other kids had 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.440 been on the team already and he was the newest 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.800 one on the team. So they put him on a 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.160 team with the guys that wasn't that good, okay, and 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.359 it was like one against five. Jamo just took it 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.640 to the whole team, you know, and I was like, wow, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.760 this little boy is crazy. And then every year it 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:06.480 just happened over and over again. 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:11.000 You know, we've all heard stories about dads training their 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.120 kids at an early age, sometimes excessively. So what did 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.520 each of you guys do to aid in your son's development? 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.159 Jimmy Chase, how about you go first on this one. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.320 Well, I had Jamaal on a rigorous workout at an 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:31.360 early age. Okay, he was doing push ups. Every time 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.440 I got in trouble, I made him do push ups. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.839 And you know, I think that developed his work ethic 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.719 over the years, you know, because I always had him training, 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.800 I always had him working out. I always had him 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.760 doing something to showing up his craft at an early age. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.000 Jimmy Burrow, Well, he played so many different sports. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.720 I guess you know, we were just as a as 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.520 a parent, we were there, you know, being positive and 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.920 supporting him certainly as he got older. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.400 We would watch some film here and there, here and there. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.400 To a lot of times when I was coaching, I 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.960 couldn't watch his his uh a lot of his early 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.080 age football games, whether it was third fourth grade, and 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.240 and we'd sit down and watch it, uh kind of 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.560 have fun with it, you know. I didn't grind him 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.360 and say, hey, you know, Monday night at eight o'clock, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.400 we're going to watch film or something like that we 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.000 just kind of uh did it periodically. And and the 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.440 good thing about Joe and I think Jamar is the 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.960 same way as they. They love practicing, and uh so 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.680 you don't you don't really have to as they as 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.520 they grew up, probably and Joe for sure, I'm sure 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.360 Jamar that you didn't have to encourage them. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:44.880 Hey you got to go to practice today. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.000 I mean they wanted to go to practice, they wanted 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.440 to get better, and they wanted to hang out with 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.600 the friends. And so that all all added up to 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:54.040 to just being there for for. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.720 Joe and when when he needed us. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.840 How insanely competitive were they as kids? And here's a 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.440 key question. When you played against them, whether it was 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.280 a board game, whether it was shooting free throws, whatever, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.480 did you let them win? Jimmy Burrow, you go first? 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.480 Not really, But it didn't take long for me not 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.480 to have a choice in h in those type things. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.280 But that was the one thing I guess I I 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.640 saw at an early age how competitive. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.880 Uh he was. He he wasn't a very good loser. Uh. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.200 You know, you try to teach sportsmanship, but uh, I 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:37.120 think he respected his opponents and their their coaches. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.959 And but you know he was a terrible loser. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.360 And and uh really still is and that's just part 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.880 of his competitive fire and and uh but he had 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.200 he had teammates and friends like that too, so uh, 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.400 you know that that was good for for his whole 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.199 early stages in athletics. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.960 Did you let jamar win? Oh? 0:08:59.000 --> 0:08:59.800 I tried not to. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:07.120 Okay, he has a real, real serious competitive edge, right. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.480 Jamal used to cry when he lose, right, He used 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.600 to blow a gasket. And I used to have to 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.520 kind of like control at it because if he's losing 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:21.440 or he's behind, he gets so furious he starts crying 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.480 and he goes bananas. So I had to like kirktail 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.120 that at an early age. That was my biggest thing, like, 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.480 calm down, catch your bread, take your time. He was 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.320 he was delirious, right, But we never played games together 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.760 because number one, he didn't want me to beat him, 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.080 and then number two, I didn't want him to beat me. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:40.440 You know. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.280 I asked him to show me how to play the 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.360 PlayStation game, and he said, you press the A button 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.120 and you press the B button, right, But they had 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.640 more buttons, and I'm like, you're pressing all them buttons, 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:52.079 you know, so. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.120 Like we couldn't play together because he didn't want to 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:56.920 lose to me. You know, I didn't want to lose 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:57.280 to him. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.320 So your son's awry that lsu together or at the 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.600 same time. Basically in twenty eighteen, Jamar was a freshman, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:10.000 Joe was a transfer from Ohio State. Do you remember 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:14.640 hearing your son talk about the other dad's son for 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.760 the first time? And what did they say, Jimmy, Chase 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.400 you go first? 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.280 Well, I told Joe got there before us, right, And 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.360 I told Jamal they got this quarterback named Joe Burrow. 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.440 He's coming down. He's like, yeah, I don't know that, dude. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:30.679 I don't want to go down, you know. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.160 So like he didn't really talk about Joe. He didn't 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.959 know much about Joe, you know. And it didn't happen 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.040 until they got that till he got that with him, 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.200 But prior to that, he wasn't really concerned about Joe. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.360 When did Joe start telling you about Jamar? 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.480 Well, I mean soon his practice really started when Jamar 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:54.920 was there. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.240 I mean he knew he had Jamar. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.959 He said, I got some special special guys at receiver. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.320 It's just a matter of you know, getting us all 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:10.400 together and and uh he said, Jamar, I think was 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.760 it was a freshman, so uh it took him a. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.760 While to to really jail and come together. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.880 But uh then then after that that first year in 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.000 the summer, Joe he just said that he he had 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.719 a chance to in his teammates and his team had 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.559 had a real chance to to be, uh be special. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.840 And and he always knew, you know, Jamar was once 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.079 they started working together, that they they had a had 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.680 a bond that that it's it's just hard to explain, 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:45.160 and it's hard to get that bond with with quarterback 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.199 and receiver, but they they had had it fairly quickly, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.640 and and uh, you know, it gets it's fun to watch, 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.280 and it gets better every every year. It's pretty amazing. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.000 So the following year L s U might have been 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.640 the greatest team in college football history. That go fifteen 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.560 and oh, Joe wins the Heisman, throws sixty touchdown passes, 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:08.200 Jamar wins the Blitakoff Award, he catches twenty touchdowns that season. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.320 What was that like for you two guys as parents, 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.280 Joe Burrow or Jimmy Burrow rather you go first, Well, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:15.680 it was. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.040 You know, it was a lot. I mean, there was 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:18.839 a lot going on. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:26.760 We're trying to to interview agents, you know, I interviewed fourteen. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.719 Robin and I here here in Athens. We're going to 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:30.400 all the games. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.520 I had retired, so that made it easy for me 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.160 to get to the games. Robin was still working, but 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.880 she had gone to all of them anyway, So it 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.760 was just an exciting time to be a part of it. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.880 And then you said, might be. 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:54.559 The greatest team. It is the greatest team. So that's 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.640 you'd have trouble convincing Jimmy, Chase and I otherwise. But 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.520 just to watch that team grow, it's really the first team. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.720 And I coached for many years and watched a lot 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.120 of lot of teams, it's the first team that I 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:14.360 ever saw that literally got better every game. I mean 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.080 the second game they were better than the first. The 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.360 National Championship, they. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.240 Were just better as a team. And that's offense and defense. 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:27.000 So combine all that with all the awards, you know, 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:31.400 we had Baton Rouge, Lsu, Tailgates or the best, you know, 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.560 the Chasers have so much going on. Being from New Orleans, 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:39.920 we didn't really get that close until really. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:40.320 We got here. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.720 But We were good friends there and tried to spend time. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:49.120 But those tailgates are are are just unbelievable and we 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.200 have our own now and the Chases are part of 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:53.120 it and we. 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.840 Really become close as a family. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.800 What was twenty nineteen like for the Chase family. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.280 Was it was crazy and it was amazing at the 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.280 same time. You know, like Joe, like Jimmy said, you know, 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.160 the tailgates started it off. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.160 That was an all day event. But then we would go. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:19.200 To the games, and then the games would be like crazy, right. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:20.960 We would see jim and Robin at the game. They 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.600 would be on one end of the role or in 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.480 front of us. As soon as Joe DROs Jamaar touchdown, 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.240 they turned around and screaming and holler. Sometimes we were 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.840 sitting next to each other, but we were so into 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.800 our own kids at the same time. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.800 You know, it was like it was crazy. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:42.480 But you know that year, the practices were better than 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:47.200 the games, right, the practices, right, I'm like, Joe won 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.720 me over in practice because every time a fight broke out, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.720 Joe was in the middle of the fight, okay. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.200 And I'm like, man, this dude here, this dude is 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:56.800 not regular. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.600 You know what I'm saying, But because we had a 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.840 good d fence that year and the defensive. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.680 They were hard nosed that Joe was going toe to 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:05.320 toe with him. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.840 But you know, that year was so crazy, and you know, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.040 every year, like Jimmy said, every game, it got better 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:16.600 and better. Right, So when Jamal started taking off, you know, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.400 everybody was getting excited. And I just told my wife, 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.960 I'm like, you don't understand what's going on right now, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:26.360 Like this dude is playing on a big stage, like 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:27.480 in the National. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.960 Championship game and kind of like leading the team. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.560 And you know, it's like this is awesome, you know, 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.040 So it really like took off. It was thee They 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.160 were the best college team ever. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.040 You know, they are back back at LSU. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.480 You know I started when we'd see each other and 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:47.280 he maybe again, like he said five rows. 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.960 From us or whatever, and I, uh, he'd say, what 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:50.400 do you think? 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.840 And I'd say we got to have three today from 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.160 Jamar or two and he'd. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.160 Either agree with me or he'd add one. A lot. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:03.000 So we kind of still still do that and and 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.080 and that that relationship between Joe and Jamar. I'll give 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.320 you another example. After the National championship game. You know, 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.920 they they snapped the ball. Joe has the ball and 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:17.240 uh later that that night, because that that ball is pretty. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:22.240 Valuable, uh national championship ball. And I said, uh, uh hey, Joe, 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.200 where's that ball? I want to take it home with 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:24.840 us and stuff. 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.160 And he said, I gave it to Jamar And I said, 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.880 you want gave it to Jamar? I said, uh, you know, 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.040 your dad might have liked that. And he said, Dad, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.240 Jamar had like one hundred and fifty yards passing yards 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.120 that day or something. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.400 He deserves that ball. So that's that's just again, how 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.520 how those two guys roll together. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:43.720 Yeah, I have that ball. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.720 I figured out we have so many things that a 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.680 lot of times our sons just they get so many 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.800 different things that, uh, you know, winning is still the 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:55.560 most important. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:56.520 So we we do. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.400 Get get a lot of things that that that maybe 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.160 they they either don't have room for in their in 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:07.479 their house choose to to to not not display it. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:08.800 But we'll take care of that. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.840 So one of the happiest moments of my life as 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.080 a sports fan was the semi final game against Oklahoma 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.240 because at that point we know that the Bengals have 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.280 the number one pick in the NFL draft. Joe goes 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.840 out and throws seven touchdown passes in the first half. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.800 Jamar was completely unstoppable. Now, we didn't know that we 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.360 would get Jamar at that point, but that was kind 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:33.560 of my favorite Joe and Jamar college story. Do you 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.800 guys have a favorite moment of favorite game, something that's 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.800 etched in your memory from the connection between your two 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.919 sons at the college level. Jimmy Burrow, you go first. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.920 I think for me, it's still the national championship. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.119 You know, Joe had had lost a tough state championship 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:55.840 game is his senior year, and so so that was 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.440 always only his mind to win a championship. And then 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:04.760 you know, we got behind fairly quickly to Clemson, so 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.560 we're going, oh, no, this this could. 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.160 Be a problem. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:13.240 But uh, just the way they came back and dominated 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.879 and and to see all those guys on the stage, 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.119 you know, that's that's about as proud as as a 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.760 parent could could get to know, one they're undefeated, and 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.440 two they just won the national championship and accomplished. Really, 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.040 why Joe why he went to LSU was to have 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:33.960 a chance to win that national championship. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.560 So, uh, that was pretty incredible. 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.600 Do you have a moment, Jimmy Chase. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.000 Yeah, I'll say it was the National championship game too, 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:46.120 because like, Jamal has never won a championship in football. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.240 He lost the state championship in high school to Clyde 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.440 Edward Hilaire. I'm still mad about that, okay, but that 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:57.800 was his teammate. But we lost the high school championship 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.720 and that was his first real championship. He didn't win 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.119 anything in parkball and football he won. Jamal is a 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:11.760 basketball player. So anyway, in the National Championship game, I 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.879 was like, Joe has the confidence to keep going to 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.439 him in this big game, you know it, because it's like, 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.439 like Jimmy said, we was behind and we had to 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.240 come back from behind, and Joe was going to Jamal. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.359 Now nobody else seeing this, but this is when I'm like, 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.560 y'all don't understand what's going Joe much really believing this, 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.880 dude if he's drawing it, because Joe is not gonna 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.280 throw you the ball if he don't have confidence. 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:36.560 I'm gonna tell you that, all right. 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.560 So Joe Borrow is Jeorge Jamal to ball and everybody's 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.879 all exciting and dancing and singing, you know, happy because 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.000 they winning and they catch the ball, and I just 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.520 sat down. I was like, this is unbelievable. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:49.560 You know what I'm saying. 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:54.000 This is the National Championship game, televised game for the championship, 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.359 and my son is a big part of it. 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.000 And yeah, that was a real uh proud pop up 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:00.639 moment for me. 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:05.160 Jeremy says, Joe, if you drop a ball or two, 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.680 he's not going to throw it back to you. Sot, Jamal, 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.520 That's true. 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.840 All right, Let's fast forward to the twenty twenty one draft. 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.360 Jimmy Burrow. Did Joe tell you he's always been kind 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.760 of coy about what he said to the Bengals. Did 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.399 Joe tell you that he wanted the Bengals to select Jamar? 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:27.920 Yes? 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:35.040 I think we figured that and eventually, yes, he pretty 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:41.160 much told us that he wanted Jamar and he thought, well, 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:42.960 he just knew how good a player, how great a 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.480 player he was. And you know, Jamar is not only 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.480 a great football player on the field, he's a locker 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:54.600 room and influenced too, And Joe knew how he'd fit 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.520 into the culture of the Bengals and how he'd be 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.760 able to interact with his teammates. So it all added 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:04.240 up and and uh, and that's who we we wanted 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.720 to Robin and I, I mean, once you see somebody 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.920 do the things we saw Jamar, do you know, there's not. 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.520 Not many like him, and we needed him. 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.920 And uh, that's that's who Joe wanted to draft. 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.760 Also, Jimmy Chase, were you hoping that Jamar would be 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:23.919 reunited with Joe Burrow and Cincinnati? 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:31.080 No tool for those guys. 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.040 I was like, I don't know anything about Cincinnati. 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:37.120 They's not really that good right now, So why don't 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.080 we just go to South Beach? 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:39.800 Right? 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:41.960 I could sit on the I could sit on the beach. Wise, 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:43.280 Jamal I didn't work on the team. 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:43.560 Right. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.679 But it was like a week before the draft. Jamal 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.280 said that Joe text me, and I'm like, okay, he 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:54.160 was like, so he was all excited, Jamar is real 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.800