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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and this is the start of our number two

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Speaker 2: of the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. And

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Speaker 2: that means it's Friday, and it's mock draft Friday.

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Speaker 3: Man, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's use the PFF dot com mock drafter today

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna start the simulation.

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Speaker 3: Let's say the team looks exactly like it does today

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Speaker 3: plus Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, So we are up here

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Speaker 2: now at twenty one. We have three trade offers. The

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Speaker 2: earliest one is the Eagles, so we could potentially get

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Speaker 2: a second round pickback for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be interested in that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, but Kenneth Grant is available.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what other d tackles are on the board.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing if Grant's available, they're all available.

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Speaker 3: By the way, today was his pro day and looked

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Speaker 3: like he did quite well from the thing that I saw.

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Speaker 3: I retweeted, and Mike Tomlin and no more Coln weren't there.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean they can't draft him, by the way,

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Speaker 3: for I'm sure they had some representative there.

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Speaker 2: Well, we know where Mike Tomlin was a.

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Speaker 3: Right chatting with maybe the next quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Grant there, Nolan there, Harmon there, Darius Alexander there.

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Speaker 3: I don't look at Alexander quite in the same light

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Speaker 3: as those other ones. But you know, if you're trading down,

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't be a bad consolation prize. I'd be interested

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Speaker 3: in trade down. Grant would be my pick if he's

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Speaker 3: sitting there.

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Speaker 2: My guess is that that's why the Eagles want to

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Speaker 2: come up. Potentially, probably that's worth getting a second round

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Speaker 2: pick for you.

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Speaker 3: What else is on the board?

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Speaker 2: Josh Simmons, Eggbica, Calvin Banks, Matthew Golden, Walter Nolan a,

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Speaker 2: Marion Hampton, Colston Loveland, He's abled, Derek Carmen, Nick Scurton,

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Speaker 2: Darius Alexander, not.

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Speaker 3: A ton that I'm super excited about.

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Speaker 2: Again, let's let's stick and pick, Okay, just to show

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Speaker 2: what this looks like without without having the second round pick.

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Speaker 3: Grant.

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Speaker 2: So Grant is the pick? Yeah, you know we're not.

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Speaker 2: Now the question is do we want to try to

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Speaker 2: trade back up from eighty three to potentially get into

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Speaker 2: the second round.

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Speaker 3: Hard to do, but I don't know. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: have to trade future picks, right, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: We don't have the comp picture, right, we can trade

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Speaker 2: our regular round picks knowing that we're going to get

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Speaker 2: a compick.

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Speaker 3: The thing is as a rule of thumb, like if

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Speaker 3: you're offering next year's third, that basically gets you a

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Speaker 3: fourth this year. Like I'm not giving up next year's

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Speaker 3: first to get a second this year. No, of course,

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Speaker 3: And I don't really want to give up next your

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Speaker 3: second period, you know. So that type of deal is

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Speaker 3: next year's third and your third, get back at two,

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Speaker 3: and then you'll have a three, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like you're gonna get a compic, but you're you're moving

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Speaker 3: I mean, he won three this year, right, but you're

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Speaker 3: moving up to get the player that you right desire.

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Speaker 3: All Right, the pick hasn't been made, all right, I'm

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Speaker 2: We're down to the end of the first round. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna resume here. Shador Sanders just went in thirty four.

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Speaker 2: By the way, in this round, he didn't even make

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Speaker 2: the list of guys best available.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna keep her one here. We know he was

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Speaker 3: going to be off the board there at some point

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Speaker 3: we weren't taking him. I just don't know who I

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Speaker 3: trade up for. I mean, if you already have a

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Speaker 3: D lineman in the books, I probably would not trade

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Speaker 3: up for D lineman number two with future picks. Someone

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Speaker 3: like Hampton would really have to fall the Ohio State backs.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know that. It's the worst team build

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Speaker 3: as the first back taken.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hampton has gone. We're pick forty three and there's

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Speaker 2: only been two running backs selected. I'm gonna resume.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think Judkins is going to get

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Speaker 2: Now we're pick forty nine and only two running backs

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's our pick in round three eighty three? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a long waiting, a long waiting. That's against it's

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Speaker 3: going to costly second year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to resume. We're within twenty picks. Now,

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Speaker 2: last pick of they were pick sixty four, So this

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we have two rounds in the book.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson has gone, so I'm assuming.

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Speaker 3: I mean if the Io State.

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Speaker 2: Judkins is gone, went to the Bengals. That's I don't

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Speaker 2: think that, but everybody else, So those two are gone.

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Speaker 2: Henderson Henderson is still available.

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Speaker 3: I think he's way better than the rest.

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Speaker 2: There's this idea that he's a small back.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like the Warren conversation.

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Speaker 2: And pounds at the combine. Yeah, yeah, that's not a

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Speaker 2: small He's not one hundred and ninety five pounds.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't get knocked down easily either. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to resume here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a hard time trading up for running back.

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Speaker 2: We are now at seventy four. Jaylen Noel just went,

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Speaker 2: Josh Farmer went, Scatibow is gone. Travon Henderson was the

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Speaker 2: Eagles pick at sixty four. Oh okay, So Anderson is

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Speaker 2: Scatabow are now gone. Okay, Now we're not trading up. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm just spiking at eighty two. The Seahawks just took

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Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, it would have been a consideration around three for four.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Terrence Ferguson tight end out of Oregon,

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Speaker 2: Vernon Broughton. We haven't talked a lot about Vernon Broughton

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Speaker 2: from Texas six four, three hundred and five pounds defensive end.

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Speaker 2: He's a three to four defensive end. That's what he is.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not a bad prospect. Yeah, it seems a

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Speaker 3: little early for him, but it took.

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Speaker 2: Elijah Roberts, the ed rusher out of SMU, Jared Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Harvey running back out of UCF, Jonas s Ivenia tackle

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Speaker 2: Jalen Royals, wide receiver from Utah State. Wyatt millm offensive

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Speaker 3: Giddins is attractive to me. I don't think this is

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Speaker 2: I like Harvey too.

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Speaker 3: I like both of those guys. What if you sorted

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Speaker 3: just by running backs? Who are the top five.

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Speaker 2: Or Harvey Giddons, Devin Neil from Kansas, Damian Martinez from

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Speaker 3: I liked all those guys except for Smith, and I

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Speaker 3: think they're too small. Yeah, but I would take any

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Speaker 3: of those and I bet one of them is there

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Speaker 2: Well, we don't pick again until one twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what pick is this?

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Speaker 2: This is eighty three. We have forty picks in between.

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Speaker 3: How does that work?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean? How does that work? There's comp

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Speaker 2: picks and between three.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, it's our normal fourth rounder. But it's

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Speaker 3: a longer stretch. Gotcha right, that is a long stretch.

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Speaker 3: There's not one of those backs.

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Speaker 2: I love though.

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Speaker 3: Any chance we could trade down here ten spots or.

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Speaker 2: We have four trade offers. Let me look at the

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Speaker 2: defensive tackles available. Broughton, Diane Walker and esp Bles, Jamari Caldwell,

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Speaker 2: JJ Pegas, Riley Mills, Simeon Barrow. Broughton is one of

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Speaker 2: the few true four defensive end types still there.

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Speaker 3: He's I mean, he's standing out of that groups.

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Speaker 2: Guys. Guys are all like nose.

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Speaker 3: Tackles, right like, I like Caldwell, but I can't see

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Speaker 3: thinking grand.

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Speaker 2: An callwell, now that's not gonna yeah that that doesn't

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver would would you know? Jalen Royals is

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Speaker 2: still there, saving On Williams is still there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there were a couple of old Linemen I thought

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Speaker 3: were interesting too. Tackle types millim.

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Speaker 2: And Milliam's a guard as a guard.

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Speaker 3: Probably Okay, No, it's not super exciting. I'm fine with Broughton.

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Speaker 3: If you want to go down that road.

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Speaker 2: Cornerback you got Dorian Strong, Jacob Parris, Kobe Bryant, Mellow Dotson.

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Speaker 3: How about quarterbacks? I know Milroe went, but.

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Speaker 2: Will Howard, Riley Leonard. They still have Jackson Dart available.

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Speaker 2: He can be available, Dylan Gabriel, Calu McCord, Tyler Shuck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't like Schucker, but Dard of a chance

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Speaker 3: to be there late. I would say Broughton back of choice,

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Speaker 3: or I would gladly trade down ten spots or so.

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Speaker 2: The Broncos are offering pick eighty five. That doesn't move

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Speaker 2: us down that far. They're not going to give us

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Speaker 2: much to make that move. The Rams are on the

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Speaker 2: phone offering pick ninety.

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Speaker 3: That would be interesting. There's going to be a back

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Speaker 3: there and or Broughton.

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Speaker 2: I want to get rid of our two pick a

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Speaker 2: two twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think we can pick up a fifth rounder

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Speaker 3: in the process or something.

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Speaker 2: We can get picked one twenty seven off of them.

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Speaker 3: I'm in on that.

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Speaker 2: They accepted it. Okay, we picked up a little something,

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Speaker 2: all right. So we're now at ninety and Broughton is

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Speaker 2: still there. We also now have two picks in the

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Speaker 2: one twenties.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you want to do Broughton and keep our fingers crossed.

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Speaker 3: A back, a suitable back is there? There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of them. I think Broughton's going to

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Speaker 2: need to work on some hand placement things of that.

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Speaker 2: But that's why you take it guys like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is he to play today? No, especially after

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Speaker 3: drafting Grant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh So we're up at one twenty three and

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Speaker 2: the best player available, me and Martinez, I'm in on that.

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Speaker 2: Let's take him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that.

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Speaker 2: Now we're up again at one twenty seven, and this

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Speaker 2: would be perhaps a quarterback. Riley Leonard available, Dylan Gabriel available,

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Speaker 2: Quin you Weres available, col McCord, Curtis Rourke.

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Speaker 3: I think Rourke's my favorite of the group. What's the

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Speaker 3: tackle situation. It's probably a little late for project tackles.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Crenshaw, Dixon, Chase Lunt, as Johnny Cornelius, Logan Brown,

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Speaker 2: Emery Jones.

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Speaker 3: I think Henry Jones and Lunt.

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Speaker 2: I think Lunt's a pure tat. I don't know Lunch.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a pure tackle.

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Speaker 2: Pure tackle. He's six' eight three oh. Five he's not

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Speaker 2: going to ever kick in the guard for.

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Speaker 3: No, no he's your swing, guy. Right. Yeah i've been

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Speaker 3: A jones fan every step of the way. Too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we do that here. Though or let me take

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Speaker 2: a look at the wide receivers and see you see

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Speaker 2: what Say Tory, Horton Pat, Bryant Kobe, Hudson Kyle, Williams Isaac, Tesla.

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Speaker 3: Have. Yeah, AGAIN i THINK i brought up earlier in the.

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Speaker 2: Style And Kyle williams is that, solid except he's. Bigger he's, bigger, Right,

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Speaker 3: Williams it isn't one twenty, seven and we got another

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Speaker 2: Six we still have one eighty. Five, okay top players,

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Speaker 2: Available Dylan, gabriel Bay Sheelle Touton, benjamin you're a sec

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Speaker 3: Hunter he even talked about. HIM i know that tight

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Speaker 3: a five star that went To. Stanford he's really, talented

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Speaker 3: out his. HIGHLIGHTS i, mean, like IF i had to

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Speaker 3: redo my sleeper tight, end it would definitely be.

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Speaker 2: Him jark West, hunter the running back out Of, Auburn

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Speaker 2: Jake bringingstol tight end out Of, Clemson trevor atn running

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Speaker 2: r J oben As rusher at A Notre. Dame Jackson

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Speaker 2: hawes is still, there the tight end out Of georgia

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Speaker 3: Stout the name that actually stands out to. Me AND

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Speaker 3: DIFFERENT i just don't know you're gonna have four running

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Speaker 3: gainwell didn't, Exist i'd like to take those, two you,

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Speaker 3: KNOW i, MEAN i mean you could have four that Are.

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Speaker 2: When The packers did, that they didn't really have a

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Speaker 2: Three, yeah they were, like, hey we got room on

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Speaker 2: our roster for all three of these. GUYS i don't

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Speaker 3: Situation i'm just saying he's my favorite prospect you've, mentioned you,

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Speaker 3: know in a back You i'm fine with McCord or

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Speaker 3: like to but it's probably a luxury. Pick any lineman

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Speaker 2: Liman Logan brown is still, There Emery jones is still.

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Speaker 3: There. OH i like both those. Guys those are two

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Speaker 3: of my favorite names in this. Neighborhood what's looking at?

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Speaker 2: You, WELL i think if you're going to take a,

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Speaker 3: Yeah one more pick after, this yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah well we had another pick at one eight.

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Speaker 3: Who's your favorite of the? Quarterbacks, well you know.

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Speaker 2: Who's still going to be? There because they're rankings are

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Speaker 2: all goofed. Dump If Curtis, rourke IF i, KNEW i,

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Speaker 2: like here's the problem With. Rorke he may not do

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Speaker 2: Right and WHEN i say, That i'm talking he may

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Speaker 3: Camp yeah, yeah so.

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Speaker 2: Is he worth doing? That and just go off on

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Speaker 3: We'll worry about the upside enough for, That, yeah to

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Speaker 3: in a year from. NOW i, mean chances are one

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Speaker 2: Rudolph, YEAH i, mean because he's going to be basically a,

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Speaker 3: Rookie like it's gonna take him a lot to beat Out. Rudolph,

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Speaker 3: yeah let alone do something for. You, yeah we don't

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Speaker 3: have that. INFORMATION i think you just take my. Cord, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: YEAH i know he's not super, mobile and people hate

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Speaker 3: when you take. McCord a lot of it's because he

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Speaker 3: threw a million picks Against, pitt, right but after that

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Speaker 3: he was a really good. Folks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay we're up here at one eighty. Five

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Speaker 3: There Emory. JONES i would jump on. That, yeah you,

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Speaker 3: go he might be a, guard BUT i don't. Care

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Speaker 3: he might be your starting guard next. Year, yeah, exactly

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Speaker 3: that's my. Thought i'd start him out of tackle and

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Speaker 3: see how it.

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Speaker 2: Goes, okay and we're, running and we're, running we're.

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Speaker 3: RUNNING i guess the rest of the draft has to. Finish,

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Speaker 3: YEAH i don't hate. That it wasn't our best. ONE i,

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Speaker 3: mean you remember d k that cass part of. It,

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Speaker 3: yeah we say that every.

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Speaker 2: Time you, know we didn't trade back in the first.

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Speaker 2: Round we Took Kenneth. Grant we did trade back in

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Speaker 2: the third round a little bit and Took Vernon broughton

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Speaker 2: M hm defensive lineman From, texas Got Damian. Martinez in round.

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Speaker 2: Four we get that extra round four. Pick we Took Kyle,

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Speaker 2: williams the wide receiver out Of Washington. State Got kyle,

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Speaker 2: McCord quarterback out Of. Texas is our quote unquote developmental slash.

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Speaker 2: Potential we'll, See, yeah we'll. See and then offensive Tackle

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Speaker 2: Emory owns with our final pick at one eighty.

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Speaker 3: Five it kind of feels, like If grant doesn't, hit

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Speaker 3: probably don't get a ton out of this, draft you,

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Speaker 2: OTHERS i would be shocked If grant doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Hit i'm a, believer don't get me, wrong but it's

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Speaker 2: AND i Think martinez to, me is kind of be a.

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Speaker 2: LOT i think he's being slept on a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit he's a nasty, dude and he's really only is

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Speaker 3: that much different than, nausey to be honest with, you

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Speaker 2: Faster he's, faster, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And, tough get on the, ground you, know big. Bodied

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Speaker 3: at least in my, Opinion he's a better zone, runner.

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Speaker 2: Right, no that's the. KEY i, MEAN i think he

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Speaker 3: NAUSEY i definitely think. So, NO i like that pick a,

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Speaker 3: lot and he's quickly going up my list of potential.

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Speaker 2: Stealer AND i Think Emery jones could be a potential

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Speaker 2: starter at guard for you down the. Road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah Kyle williams is going to. Help he could

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Speaker 3: he beat Out austin Or wilson for that maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: or a year from.

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Speaker 2: NOW i don't hate. It, Okay well there we. Go,

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Speaker 2: yeah that's our latest mock draft. Here we use The

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Speaker 2: Pro Football focus draft. Simulator he Is Matt. Williamson I'm, Dale,

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Speaker 2: Him this Is this is, true But i'm just either

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Speaker 1: This this is The drive With Dale lolly And Matt

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Speaker 1: williamson on your twenty four to seven home of The

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Speaker 2: And we are. Back I'm Dale. Lolli he is The

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Speaker 2: Matt williamson And Matt tod McShay has come out with

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Speaker 2: his mock draft two.

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Speaker 3: Point oh, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: From the McShay report and does good work.

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Speaker 3: There, yeah it's a new service and he's pumping out

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Speaker 3: a lot of content right.

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Speaker 2: Now so let's run through his little mock. Draft. Here

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Speaker 2: see what he. Has he has Cam ward going number

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Speaker 2: one to The Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Titans that's gonna be super.

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Speaker 2: Shocky, Sure Door sanders goes to The.

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Speaker 3: Browns, OKAY i Think steeler fans should be very happy about.

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Speaker 2: That, yeah The giants Take Travis, hunter cornerback wide receiver

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Speaker 2: out Of colorado real.

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Speaker 3: Quick if you were The giants faced with that, situation

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Speaker 3: would you Go Carter? Hunter? MEMBO i don't Take. HUNTER

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Speaker 3: i THINK i would Take hunter. TOO i, mean they've

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Speaker 3: been rumored to be. Shopping they've got edge, Rushers, yeah

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Speaker 3: they've got a. Past, yeah and well the corners aren't

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Speaker 3: bad and the receivers aren't. Bad but he two, things he's. Better,

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Speaker 3: yeah he's. BETTER i Like hunter better Than.

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Speaker 2: Carter two at for The patriots and take Abdull.

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Speaker 3: Carter That that was the next THING i was, asked

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Speaker 3: you would you Take carter if you're them over like A,

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Speaker 3: membo that's a much bigger NEED i think you take

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Speaker 3: the special. Player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah The jaguars Take Mason graham defensive tackle out To.

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Speaker 2: Michigan this is where things kind of go awry with that. Whole,

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Speaker 2: Yeah jaguars are kind of in no man's.

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Speaker 3: LAND i don't love it. RIGHT i might even Take

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Speaker 3: membo IF i were, them just because linemen are hard to.

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Speaker 2: Find we'll look to trade back and see what you

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Speaker 2: can do. There The raiders Take Ashton genty running back

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Speaker 2: out Of Boise.

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Speaker 3: State do you think anyone would move to five to

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Speaker 3: get ahead of them For? Genty you don't trade off

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Speaker 3: for see that?

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Speaker 2: Happen and, yeah not in this. Draft The jets then

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Speaker 2: take Armand membo offensive.

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Speaker 3: Line i'd be pretty happy for them character back tackles and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah subsequent, years.

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Speaker 2: The Carolina panthers Take Jalen, walker the edge rusher out Of. Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Sure The saints Take Tyler, warren tight end out Of Penn.

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Speaker 2: STATE i can see that he's not going to make

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Speaker 2: it to The steeler. Pace oh, no there's no.

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Speaker 3: Way i'm Sure loveland.

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Speaker 2: Does The bears at ten Take omari And hampton running

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Speaker 2: back out Of North.

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Speaker 3: Carolina i'm not sure he's gonna be there at twenty one. Either,

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Speaker 3: YEAH i don't think he. WILL i don't think he.

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Speaker 2: Will the forty nine ers at eleven take Johnd Ay,

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Speaker 2: barron cornerback out Of.

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Speaker 3: Texas they've lost a lot and it's not hard to

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Speaker 3: find needs on that. Team all of a, Sudden, yeah

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Speaker 3: tackle all over their line.

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Speaker 2: Corner at, twelve The cowboys Take Matthew golden wide Receiver.

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Speaker 3: Texas they're another one that has a lot of. Needs

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Speaker 3: but that would be THAT'S i actually mocked that the

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Speaker 3: last TIME i did. ONE i think it's a good

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Speaker 2: Lamb at, thirteen The dolphins Take Will, campbell offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: out OF.

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Speaker 3: Lsu see for, them that's. Perfect, yeah that he might

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Speaker 3: Be armsteed's, replacement but he's probably a guard somewhere on that.

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Speaker 2: Line he's gonna play somewhere in that. Line that line's, Bad,

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Speaker 2: yeah it's. Bad The colts in take at Fourteen Colston,

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Speaker 2: loveland the tight end out Of.

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Speaker 3: Michigan, okay he's really grown on me as prospects. Player

435
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Speaker 3: he's a really good player and he gets. Open he had

436
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: a really bad quarterback play last year. Too at, fifteen

437
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: The falcons Take quick it's interesting if you watch him

438
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 3: last year with the bad quarterback, play, well he has

439
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: to adjust to a lot of bad, balls so you see.

440
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: It get to scout him a little.

441
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: Differently, yeah you know he'll get some bad balls With

442
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: Anthony Richard. Daniel you might get used to, that. Right at,

443
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: fifteen The falcons Take Mike, greene the, addresser out Of. Marshall. Yeah,

444
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: sixteen The cardinals Take Jihad, campbell linebacker out Of. Alabama

445
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: their needs are starting to fill in pretty. WELL i,

446
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: MEAN i still think that'll be. Defense but could they Take.

447
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: Ted McMillon or another old. Lineman but, MAN i like

448
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: The campbell.

449
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: Fit at, seventeen The bengals take Mikel. Williams That's, georgia

450
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: a Very bengals. PICK i, mean he's, big, traitzy so so. Production,

451
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 2: yeah edge is bad for. Them he didn't have a.

452
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: Great pro day.

453
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: Either, yeah low four Seven's i'd like to see higher than.

454
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: That thought wout him be in a freak and he's

455
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: on as freaky as you.

456
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: Think at, eighteen The seahawks Take Nick amuwari safety out

457
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: Of South, carolina.

458
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: And todd's logic for that was he would be The

459
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: Ravens hamilton version for, them WHICH i totally. Understand wild card,

460
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 3: guy you. Know at, Nineteen, yeah this is kind of.

461
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Fun The giants trade, up giving up picks thirty four

462
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: and sixty five and a twenty twenty six third rounder

463
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: to The buccaneers for picks nineteen to come up and

464
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: Get jackson dart.

465
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 3: Yep And todd basically said they do it to get

466
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: ahead The. Steelers, yeah, right, right right, Right And rogers

467
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: is in the mix at this, point but that was

468
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: the goal here was get ahead Of pittsburgh to Get Dark,

469
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: yeah WHICH i kind of hope. Happens fine at the

470
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: bone at the end of this he does a bonus

471
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: pick for The. Box, yeah and they end up with

472
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: a pretty similar. Player that's just how this draft, is you.

473
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: Know at twenty The broncos Take Trayvon, henderson running back

474
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: out Of Ohio state.

475
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 3: Thoroughly But hampton's. Gone peyton certainly understands the value of

476
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 3: like protection and things of the little things That henderson. Does.

477
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: WELL i wouldn't have Considered henderson at twenty one for The,

478
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: steelers BUT i could see why The broncos.

479
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: Would, yeah, right you, know that brings us to pick twenty, one.

480
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: WHICH i think we would both Think. GRANT i can't

481
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: remember who he even took, here AND i did read.

482
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 2: This at twenty, one he Takes Derek harmon Over Kenneth.

483
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: Grant fair, enough but it's the.

484
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: Same would not be WHAT i would.

485
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: Do, NO i Like grant, BETTER i Like nolan, better

486
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: but it's the right church different. Pew.

487
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah at twenty, two The chargers Take donovan ezeriku edge

488
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: rusher out Of Boston. COLLEGE i can't imagine if this

489
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: for this scenario they wouldn't Take.

490
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 3: Grant maybe. NOT i think it's a bigger. NEED i

491
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: was just thinking of their edge guys. THOUGH i Think

492
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: max only on a one year. Deal two the Top

493
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: LOPO i kill his name is a pretty good player though.

494
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: Opposite, yeah but you get the Whole carbaugh connection there with.

495
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: With that's WHAT i. MEAN i think the edges is,

496
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: big a need is and.

497
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: You can Get edges deeper into this, draft and, okay

498
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: you just Let bosa walk because you think the two

499
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: he is ready to.

500
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: GO i, mean, frankly i'd be interested in like McMillan here.

501
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: Too, yeah you know that would be the other, thing,

502
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: Right like teed McMillan is still.

503
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 3: THERE i don't Think Mike williams is the number two right.

504
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: Now at twenty, three The packers take Will johnson cornerback

505
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: out Of.

506
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: MICHIGAN i was listening To todd thinking that he's not.

507
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: Sold johnson's going to go, real real. High but their

508
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: pro day was. TODAY i have no idea What johnson, did.

509
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: So to be, fair he's not supposed to run at

510
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: the pro. Day, really he's still recovering from a. Hamstring

511
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: he's gonna run closer to the.

512
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: Draft, okay was he your corner? One he was. MINE

513
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: i didn't Put hunter in the mix.

514
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: THOUGH i Had hunter at. ONE i Had joddy baron.

515
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: Two he's, Three, OKAY i had him one baron. Two

516
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: at twenty, four The vikings Take Malachi starks safety out Of.

517
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: GEORGIA i like safety for. THEM i Mean Harrison smith

518
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: kind of he's a, legend but he's hold on to

519
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: a thread to go one more, year succession plan to be.

520
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 3: Great you, know it's kind Of Cam hayward, move you.

521
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: Know at twenty, five The texans Take Calvin, banks junior

522
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: offensive tackle From. Texas.

523
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: YEAH i think it's almost BEST o line.

524
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: Available twenty, six The rams Take Maxwell harston cornerback out Of.

525
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: Kentucky that's actually WHERE i had him go, to and

526
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: corners not great for. Them they did bring Back.

527
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: Witherspoon at twenty, seven The ravens Take ted McMillan wide

528
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: receiver From.

529
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: Arizona that could be just too good to be, true

530
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: shouldn't fall this far type of. PICK i don't think

531
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: it's their biggest.

532
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: Need at twenty, eight The lions Take Shamar stewart edge

533
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: rusher out Of TEXAS a and m pretty late for.

534
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: HIM i bet he goes well before.

535
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: That at twenty, nine The commanders Get azeri A thomas

536
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: cornerback out OF.

537
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 3: Fsu i've seen them mock corner a, lot but they

538
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: did trade For. LATTIMORE i MEAN i know that Bump

539
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: santa stro. Inside, yeah it makes.

540
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: It ARE i mean he's a five nine cornerback who's

541
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: a really good.

542
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: Slot the thing Is banks was so. Bad, yeah the Real,

543
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: forbes Not.

544
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: Banks at, thirty The bills Take kenneth's.

545
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: Grant he's being linked there a. Lot that's what they.

546
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: Need it's what they. NEED i think some. PEOPLE i

547
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: think people are looking at how CAN i Make Kenneth

548
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: grant a. Bill If i'm The, STEELERS i don't let

549
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: him get. BY i just don't.

550
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: KNOW i don't, either, Right he's definitely priority number one

551
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: for both of.

552
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: Us apparently at thirty one The chiefs Take Gray's.

553
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: Abel they should be thrilled with. THAT i, mean he

554
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: could in a, pinch could help you, tackle but he's

555
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: probably he's your. Thuny, yeah he's a very similar. Prospect

556
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: and at.

557
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: Thirty two The eagles Take James, pierce junior edge rusher

558
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: out Of.

559
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: Tennessee, okay they don't need a ton of snaps out of.

560
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: Him he's not a big snap. Earner graham's. Gone sure,

561
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: again there was A i think there's A tampa pick

562
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: at the end of it.

563
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: Too Uh, Yeah tampa picking at thirty, four Takes Trey

564
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: amos cornerback.

565
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 3: Out Of, ole Miss.

566
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean a lot of. Cornerbacks, yeah a lot of.

567
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: Corners and when The steelers pick was, up it was

568
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: five in the first. Round there were only two, taken.

569
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: Including Will johnson still being, available.

570
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: And the cornerback run really started After. Yeah, yeah The steelers,

571
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: packybe that's a. TRADE i could see somebody wanting to

572
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: trade if in this, scenario If Will johnson is there

573
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: at twenty, ONE i could see somebody wanting to move

574
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: up to get.

575
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: Him, yeah, yeah AND i would mind trading out Of Will.

576
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: Johnson, yeah like the you, know do The packers look

577
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: at it and, go, well we can move up two,

578
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: spots maybe give up our third To pittsburgh.

579
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: Just a short little. Move, yeah that adds up to.

580
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: Me that absolutely adds up to. Me so weird QUESTION i.

581
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: WAS i was asked this, before like in this case it.

582
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: Changed but all thirty two teams have their first round.

583
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: PICK i don't think that all thirty two teams will

584
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: make the first.

585
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: Round on this. One they.

586
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: Didn't they, didn't, Right, YEAH i that's originally HOW i was.

587
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: Asked BUT i do think there's more than a fifty

588
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: percent chance that the second the draft, starts all thirty

589
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: two teams have their first round. Pick yeah, YEAH i,

590
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: MEAN i don't know if anything will happen between, now.

591
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: Because it has happened. Here the big trade up was

592
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: for a, quarterback for the quarterback right to move into

593
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: the first. ROUND i don't think anybody else is necessarily

594
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: moving into the first round unless it's for a.

595
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: QUARTERBACK i mean that's in real, time that's not you

596
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: don't prepare for. That LIKE i was shocked when The texans.

597
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: Trade it was like this time of year when The

598
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: texans traded their first round, Pick like that doesn't happen very. Often,

599
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: YEAH i bet when this draft, starts all thirty two

600
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: will have their thirty their.

601
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: Pick but you, KNOW i could, see for, example The

602
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: packers wanting to move up if they're they're gonna go

603
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: get a cornerback And Will johnson is still, THERE i

604
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: could see them wanting to move.

605
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: Up he's definitely a target to.

606
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: Me could THE ram?

607
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: Targets?

608
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah could The rams want to try to move up

609
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: of Taking Max. Maxwell harrison's a fine. Player Will johnson's,

610
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: better different. World, yeah it's bigger to play him Opposite.

611
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: Stingley yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah you, know same. Thing who

612
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: else The commanders at twenty Nine?

613
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Rams The commanders are aggressive organizations. Too that corner could

614
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: be the thing that somebody comes to.

615
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: Get and there's. All there was also only one wide receiver.

616
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: And McMillan going for mc.

617
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: Millon, no, McMillan, oh we're still. There when The steelers,

618
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: Picked like if somebody wanted to come. Away we got

619
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: to go get you, know this guy's.

620
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: Good, yeah, yeah, no that adds up TO i, mean,

621
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: SEE i bet there's varied opinions on. Him but if

622
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: Maybe washington wants them put him in the opposite, McLaurin

623
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: and you, KNOW i mean that's a good fit to

624
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: me move up eight spots to get. Them it's.

625
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: Possible, yeah, Yeah SO i do think that The steelers

626
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: will get some fun in this. Scenario, again he did

627
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: went through this yesterday AND i said the same. THING

628
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: i think in the way that this works, out if

629
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: the top of the or at the top of the

630
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: draft goes as it, did you could see a. TEAM

631
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: i could see The texans wanting to move up for

632
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: an offensive.

633
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: Tackle, YEAH i would, SAY i still think tackles are

634
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: going too late across the board in. Mocks, yeah you, know.

635
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: Just because you can't make sure we get the guy

636
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: that we.

637
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: Want and you, KNOW i, mean it wouldn't shock me

638
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: If simmons And connery are gone by the time The steelers,

639
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: pick or one of them's, there and that's.

640
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: The, talk in which case somebody's getting pushed.

641
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: Down, yeah, yeah, YEAH i just if you're a tackle needy.

642
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: Team it's desperate. Times.

643
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 2: Man there weren't many available in free, agency and there

644
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: aren't many avail any.

645
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: Mis DRAFT i mean average left. Act you need him to? Start, yeah, yeah,

646
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: yeah better go get, Them you better go get. Them

647
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: and what? Day two tackles are you excited to? START

648
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: i mean LIKE i might Put Ozzie trapillo in, there

649
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: you know as a right. Tackle Was Rob havnstein part

650
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: two type of. Guy, yeah a couple of, those but

651
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: they're not. Gameged i'm not excited about. It my quarterback's

652
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: not going to be super excited about. It, no no

653
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: tackle to me is sort only a desirable spot to

654
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: trade up.

655
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: For, yeah so we'll. SEE i think The, STEELERS i

656
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: THINK i PICK a twenty one could be getting. VALUABLE

657
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: i think they'll get. Calls now will they pull the?

658
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: Trigger that's another.

659
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: QUESTION i might just run to the podium if grants

660
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 3: there like we did in our. Market harmon better, TOO i, mean,

661
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: OH i get your defensive. End he's got the arm

662
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: length and all. That oh, yeah, yeah you, KNOW i

663
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: Think nolan's really appealing still.

664
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: Too, yeah he didn't even go in the first round,

665
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: now so we'll.

666
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: See it's always a lot to work with there with

667
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: all those.

668
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: Guys, absolutely let's get to another. Break he Is Matt.

669
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: WILLIAMSON i Am Dale. Lolly you're listening to The drive

670
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: here on The Steelers Audio. Network we'll be back with

671
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: more right after.

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00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: This at least he's The drive With Dale lolly And

673
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: Matt williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

674
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: The black And Gold Steelers Nation.

675
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: Radio and we are. Back I'm DALE lolli he is

676
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: The Matt williamson And Matt Pro Football focus has gotten

677
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: a word of the breakdown on the Dk metcalf. Contract

678
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: oh okay Or Pro Football TALK i should, say oh,

679
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: Okay and here is WHAT i haven't seen this. Yet

680
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: here's what it looks. Like so is it a three

681
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: year or five, year one hundred and fifty million dollar

682
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: deal which replaces the final year of his, contract which

683
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: was eighteen. Million steelers gave him a signing bonus of

684
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: thirty million.

685
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: Dollars, okay that's lower THAN i WOULD i.

686
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: Guessed so, basically when you look at it that, way

687
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: it's six million dollars a year over the course of the.

688
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: Contract that would be per, season, right, Ye like you're

689
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: looking at how to breakdown the. Contract his twenty twenty

690
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: five base salary is five, million.

691
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: Pretty.

692
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: Low so in, essence he counts on The steelers salary

693
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: cap this year eleven.

694
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: Million, dollars and he was eighteen before, that, right, YEAH

695
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: i mean of that was just, salary was eighteen before. That.

696
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: Right in twenty twenty, six he gets it's a twenty

697
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: five million dollar base, salary fully. Guaranteed the base salaries

698
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 2: are fully. Guaranteed he's the. Team he's still only thirty

699
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: one million dollars next.

700
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: Year that's not.

701
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: Bad there'll be two or three more receivers in this

702
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: offseason who probably signed.

703
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: Deals alone next free agency.

704
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: Period he does have a twenty twenty seven off season

705
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: roster bonus of six point five million heading into twenty twenty, seven.

706
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: Which you hope he, gets, RIGHT i mean a kind

707
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: of a catastrophe if.

708
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: He had his base salary in twenty twenty. Seven is

709
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: twenty million? Dollars that? Bad so you take the six

710
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: point five so it's it's.

711
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: About to be nothing by.

712
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 2: Then yeah thirty he's gonnaccount thirty three million dollars against

713
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: your cap that.

714
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: Year, Okay so really twenty six is where it's a

715
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 3: decent cap. Hit, yes he's worth that right.

716
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: Now twenty twenty, eight he gets an off season roster

717
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: bonus of five million dollars and a base salary of

718
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: twenty three million.

719
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: Dollars, again not, bad and that's WHAT I i would

720
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: have guessed when the contract gets, expensive, like, yeah a

721
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: five year, deal most guys don't see year four and.

722
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: Five and then in twenty twenty, nine his off season

723
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: roster bonus is five million and his base salary is

724
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: thirty point Five interesting to note that the salaries base

725
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: salaries for twenty, seven twenty, eight and twenty nine are

726
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: not fully. Guaranteed, okay the only two fully guaranteed base salaries.

727
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: Are for the next two. Seasons, yeah twenty, seventies which

728
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: he's going to make the.

729
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: Team, yeah twenty seven's base salary is guaranteed for, injury

730
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: and in twenty eight and twenty nine are not guaranteed at.

731
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: All that's not hard to get.

732
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 2: Out in, Essence, yeah in, essence it's like a really

733
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: a three year, deal three year.

734
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: Deal and again there'd be a little dead money in

735
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: year four and, five but that's not.

736
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: Much he's also only twenty, seventy, right, right it's not

737
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: like he's.

738
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: That's a very team favorable. Deal, yeah, yeah and he

739
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: might see every penny of, it which you. HOPE i

740
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: mean that means is great.

741
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: Success it also gives them some wiggle room if they

742
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: need to create cap space in the, future which they.

743
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: Don't but you, know that's why you build those big

744
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: base salaries right for years that you can you never.

745
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 3: Know what's going to. Happen you might have a quarterback

746
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: by that or who, knows right, Right, okay that's very.

747
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 2: Palatable, yeah according to again this according To Pro Football,

748
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: talk it's a guaranteed two, year sixty million dollar deal

749
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: with the team team held options for the balance of the,

750
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: contract which is kind of the way to look at.

751
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: It there's a lot of bonuses and that kind of.

752
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: Thing it's twenty six point five million and twenty seven

753
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: the way to look At, yeah twenty eight million and

754
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight and thirty five point five million in twenty,

755
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty, nine and.

756
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: The players, Going i'm guaranteed to get sixty million. Dollars,

757
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: yeah it's pretty. Good yeah for a twenty seven year old.

758
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: Receiver you, know after, THAT i probably will earn more

759
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: But i'm guaranteed to get sixty, million and it's a

760
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: minimal capit this.

761
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: Year if you look at it as just a four year,

762
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: deal it's four, years one hundred and fourteen point five million.

763
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: Dollars that's what he gets over the first four years

764
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 2: of the. Deal that is well under the. Market, yeah,

765
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: right that's not steep at. All that's what basically T

766
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: higgins got less than. That, yeah right around that from From. Cincinnati,

767
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: no it's not top of the market at. All, well that's,

768
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: again that's very. Favorable And i'm sure people are, like,

769
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: boy that's a ton of. Money you got to realize

770
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: what the cap is right. Now what people are paying

771
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: these top of the market player kind of funny money

772
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: going around out there right now.

773
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: Is, insane. Right it's hard to keep up and kind

774
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: of have a real. Feel that's why when you start

775
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: talking about people ask all the, time you, know would

776
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: you PAY.

777
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: Tj watt how are? Much? YEAH i, would right, right BECAUSE.

778
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: I would structure it that if he falls, off you

779
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: right out of it and things like that. Too and

780
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: they're really good about.

781
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: That.

782
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: YEAH i WISH i understood this, better BUT i do

783
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: know that they structure their contracts a little. Differently every team's,

784
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: different but they're an outlier AND i don't exactly know what,

785
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: regard BUT i do know that they're one of the

786
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: best teams with their ability to get out of a

787
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: contract or to restructure a track if. Needed you can

788
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: always just go to that, well you know the, way.

789
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: That's where the that's where the base salary comes into,

790
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: play and that's where you, know the signing bonus comes into.

791
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: Play how much guaranteed money is in that?

792
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: Deal, yeah, yeah, yeah because if it really what, matters.

793
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: Because IF i give you less guaranteed money, now but

794
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: in this, instance the salary is fully. Guaranteed you, know

795
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: you know you're going to get that, money.

796
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: Right BUT i always find it funny, too like this

797
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: was a big deal When lamar was a free agent

798
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: and shopping and all. That, well it's his salary is.

799
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 3: Guaranteed i'm, like, yeah but he's going to make the. Team,

800
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: yeah and he's going to be there all.

801
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Year the only the only thing with with that is

802
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: does he maybe not. Everything does he blows his knee

803
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: out right?

804
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: Right? Right but at least for the next year or,

805
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: so he's going to be a. Raven, yeah The mahomes

806
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: deal that was a ten year. Deal that's the one

807
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: who knows that's the complete. Outlier, yeah, yea, yeah yeah,

808
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: Right but AND i don't know What Josh allen is

809
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: signed in terms of, years but it's or. Something, yeah

810
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are. Different quarterbacks are different. TOO i mean it's

811
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: almost like a.

812
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: Partnership but once a player reaches a certain, age now

813
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: you're you, know that four or five year deal that

814
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 2: he would have gotten for his second contract now becomes

815
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: a three year.

816
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: Deal, yes, exactly that's the way to.

817
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: Look we don't want to be you, know we love,

818
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: You we dj you're, great you're a foundational piece in this,

819
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 2: team but you're gonna be playing when you're thirty, five.

820
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: Right, right that's at the same. Level and, yeah you're.

821
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: RIGHT i Mean Cam heyward's not making top of.

822
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: This people were talking about the defensive, tax Like cam's

823
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: what turned out to be his fourth, contract and it's

824
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: LIKE i wouldn't pay. Him, well first of, all it's

825
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: not your money.

826
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: And end up being a massive.

827
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: Bargain but people also were throwing the, salad, well he's

828
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: gonna want more Than Dexter Lawren. Scott you don't know

829
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: and he he took far less than.

830
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: That he's like ten years. Older, YEAH i mean that's

831
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: not the. Same you have like A parson that is

832
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: going to break the, bang, RIGHT i mean that's the

833
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: guy that this will be his big. DEAL i mean

834
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: it's coming into his, probably you, know but what And

835
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: parsons aren't the, Same, No.

836
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: And so you, know what's the guy worth to your,

837
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: team to your particular. Franchise and he, knows, like, yeah you,

838
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: Know i'm SURE. Tj watt knows that if he goes

839
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: out on the open. Market, yeah he's going to get.

840
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: Paid somebody's going to give him. Money, sure but it's

841
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: not going to be What parsons.

842
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: Gets oh, no, Absolutely and that's kind of forty plus

843
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 3: million dollars a year Where garrett's kind of goofy Because

844
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: garrett's watch age Getting parsons. Money you, Know, LIKE i

845
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: don't think AND tj would have the right if he

846
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: went to, SAY i want let's, start THEN i can get. Yeah, yeah,

847
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: yeah if he comes to the table and says let's

848
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: start with The garrett, contract we're the same draft, CLASS

849
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: i would understand. It BUT i don't think that's the

850
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: way that'll. GO i don't think he'd be a forty

851
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: million dollar player if they if they would happen. Today,

852
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: yeah there's always a, inflation but you build, it you

853
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 3: build it like this and and, yeah, yeah you know even,

854
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: this you know, again people look at that and, go,

855
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: wow The steelers gave him one hundred and fifty million.

856
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: Dollars well not, really.

857
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 3: Not, yet not yet they have and he's, like he's

858
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: going to show he can still play in Twenty in

859
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, nine bus yeah right, right you, know twenty

860
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 3: twenty nine is he's due to make thirty five point five.

861
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: MILLION i, mean if he can still, play they can

862
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: get out of that deal pretty. EASILY i give him

863
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: a twenty five percent chance of seeing that. Money that

864
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: doesn't mean there's not a new contract between now and,

865
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: then but twenty twenty nine is an eternity from. Now

866
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: that's dog. Years yeah, right.

867
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: Like dog, years, man that's like ten years down the.

868
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: Line at that, point he's well into his. Thirties he made.

869
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty. Nine so look at it this. Way

870
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, nine how many Current steelers are still

871
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: on the. Roster handful that are on this on the team,

872
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: NOW i.

873
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: Mean even Like boswell's a. NO i, mean like kickers

874
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: are always like an easy one if they last. Forever

875
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: but he's a.

876
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: No he's thirty four years.

877
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: Old, NOW i mean you Hope Porter, BENTON i mean

878
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: like first and second year, guys you, know outside of,

879
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: that like Many, YEAH i mean there's not even a quarterback.

880
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: There you're, like, well you're drafting this. Guy he's going

881
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: to be here in four or five. Years it's a

882
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: very small.

883
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: Number, YEAH i mean five years from, Now Cam hayward

884
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: could be going into The hall Of fame for, god.

885
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: Right right, right he should be long. Gone, YEAH i,

886
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: know no doubt about, it, RIGHT i mean you're, hoping

887
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 3: and by that, measure you'd have had to Pay benton

888
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: And porter of these guys are already done with their first.

889
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: Contract and what's the salary cap at that point is

890
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: going to be the way it's gone up in recent.

891
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: Years four hundred million, dollars.

892
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: So it'll be fifty million more than, now if not way, more,

893
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: yeah way? More, Right, SO i mean it's it's all,

894
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: relative it's. Structured, well let's put it. In. YEAH i

895
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: was impressed how that, works because a bonus or two

896
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: he may not see or that last he Might if

897
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: he's playing well and he's, great that's, fantastic and everybody

898
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 3: that means he's earning that. Money that's exactly. Right then everybody.

899
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: Wins that's what you, want, yeah, right but it's hard to. Do,

900
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: yeah so just.

901
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 2: INTERESTING i saw that last night And i'm, like that's

902
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: a little note.

903
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: There everyone just sees five years thirty, million thirty million, everywhere, right,

904
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: right there's only.

905
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: ONE i think there was only one year on there

906
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: where he actually tops thirty million. DOLLARS i think it's

907
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: an actual. MONEY i think next year is the biggest cap.

908
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: Hit twenty six the last year of. IT i think

909
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: twenty six he was more than a thirty million dollar.

910
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: Caphit oh maybe yeah yeah with the. Bonus but you

911
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: would hope that his age twenty eight, year that's that

912
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: might be his best.

913
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 3: Season, yeah you're, hoping, Right.

914
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: And then he doesn't see that over thirty again until

915
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: the last, year so.

916
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: Again right, right that's not. Bad, No, NO i mean

917
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: that's a year you want to pay.

918
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: Him and the idea is to make a nice nest

919
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: for whatever your future quarterback. Is AND Dk metcalf would

920
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: be a big part of that.

921
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: Sure or even the current. One Would rogers be interested

922
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: in The steelers if it's not for The metcalf, trade maybe.

923
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: Not you, know it might be enough to be, like

924
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: oh that's WHERE i want to.

925
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: Go, yeah so that's how that kind of works. There,

926
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: yeah so, Well matt that that's kind of going to

927
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: do it for another week, here good. Stuff, Yeah Pro.

928
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 3: Day's are around.

929
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: Theads we're starting to get some of the sign over

930
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: the league.

931
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: Still you can.

932
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: Check out Our Triple take stuff over at salters dot.

933
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: Com all the mock, drafts all the position, rankings sneers and,

934
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: yeah we'll have all next week and then uh well

935
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: basically a week from now we'll be getting ready to

936
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: head To West Palm. Beach.

937
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah that'll be. FUN i mean it'll be fun just

938
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: Because beach sounds like a blast and there's always a

939
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: lot of news and a lot of high ranking. Officials

940
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: the head, Coach Mike tomlin.

941
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: Talks it's the only time in the off season he

942
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: talks until we get to the. Draft Omar khan is

943
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: going to talk. Again Art rooney the second we'll talk. Again. Yeah,

944
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: yeah we'll get kind of a state of the team

945
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: kind of thing From omar coaches.

946
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: Are very prominent in, there and there's things that. Happen,

947
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: yeah and we might have a quarterback to talk.

948
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: ABOUT i bet by then probably a good that might

949
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: be what kind of kick starts this? Year Like, aaron

950
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: we got we gotta talk in a week. Here let's

951
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: let's get this whole.

952
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: Thing rolling, Here so all hands on that.

953
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: One answer twenty five questions about who our quarterback might.

954
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: Who knows could be sin could be a good step

955
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: in the Right it.

956
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: Was a step in the right. Direction AS i said,

957
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: Before it shows me That Aaron rodgers is no longer considering, retirement.

958
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah which is a big way of looking at it. Right,

959
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: yeah and there's mutual. Interest.

960
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah so, anyways for my Partner Matt, williamson For Justin

961
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: miller here on site making sure everything sounds, great and

962
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: For Tyler vittmeyer making sure the video gets out there

963
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: on the. YouTube check that, out give us a thumbs,

964
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: up leave us your comments there or. QUESTIONS i like

965
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: to go on there and answer questions some of the. Comments.

966
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: Whatever if you don't like, us if you like, us, hey,

967
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: no not everybody likes everything. Anyways but, uh For Matt,

968
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: Williamson I'm Dale. Lolly we thank you for listening to

969
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: this edition of The drive on The Steelers Audio. Network