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Speaker 2: It's time nice hell No and lo and Low. Hello.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Rum Shooter, and it is Thursday. Every Thursday. Our dear

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Speaker 2: friend Mark Looper joins us. Hey, Loopy are you there?

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Speaker 2: Loopy lou is here? Hello, rab Hello Darling. We had

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Speaker 2: a few technical issues this morning. I couldn't hear Mark,

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Speaker 2: going to warn you noughties marking my headset is a

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Speaker 2: little low. Don't worry, Hopefully when you're listening to this today,

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Speaker 2: to you. But do know the mark that you can

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Speaker 2: hear today on the podcast, I can barely hear. So

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Speaker 2: if we over talk one another a little bit, it's

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Speaker 2: not that we're being rue. It's that I really can't

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Speaker 2: It's like a lip reading Mark fingers Crust. Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: jump into the show. What time. Is it, my friends,

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Speaker 2: it is tea time. Oliver Hudson, that's Kate Hudson's brother

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Speaker 2: and also Goldiehorn's son. Let's be clear here has a

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Speaker 2: shocking confession there, saying he cheated before his marriage and

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Speaker 2: never got caught. Well, he has been now, so he

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Speaker 2: said the following Oliver admitted that he cheated on his

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Speaker 2: I told her everything because I couldn't live with myself

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Speaker 2: she's known about this for a long time. Before they

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Speaker 1: as follows. So he is now. It seems like weekly

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Speaker 1: good for him, but we don't need to know this.

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Speaker 1: The public does not need to know this information. Just

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Speaker 1: like when he had a podcast last week he said

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Speaker 1: week there's this new bombshell that he shares and we're

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, make a make a good movie. That's

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Speaker 2: It really is now. He did say when he talked

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Speaker 2: And they said he's on their last nerve. They know

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Speaker 2: Very three, yeah, very three. I went to see a

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Speaker 2: fabulous play a couple of days ago. Outsiders Angelina Joe

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Speaker 2: Lee is producing this fabulous new musical that opens tonight.

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Speaker 2: So I can't give a review until after the critics come,

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Speaker 2: And so every time Oliver saying something, we reward him.

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Speaker 2: So can we be surprised that he's going to keep

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Speaker 2: talking look at our fabulous podcast. Mark never would Oliver

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Speaker 2: Oliver Hudson's shocking confession about cheating before he got married.

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Speaker 2: Our question is should he shut up? Is it enough? Olifa?

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Speaker 2: Is it enough? Yes? Or no? Vote on Twitter page

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Speaker 2: your results. Hey Loopy, what are you working on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay. So Armie Hammer's ex wife, Elizabeth Chambers is

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Speaker 1: speaking out, admitting their divorce was a public nightmare. Elizabeth Chambers,

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Speaker 1: Chambers described the ordeal as riddled with scandal and daily

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is massive. Like divorce is ugly.

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Speaker 2: Some of the accusations are horrific and to have to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta feel safe, you feel safe now doing

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Speaker 2: this podcast. When we first started, you're a bit rough.

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Speaker 2: Try and make people comfortable. When you're meeting somebody for

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Speaker 2: You've got to put down those walls, isn't it. Everybody

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Speaker 2: an ugly divorce. It's getting quite nasty. But the two

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Speaker 2: Hey Loopy, let's get to the polls. Last show, we

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Speaker 1: Now. Wow, oh it's Travis Kelcey. Oh, he's explaining how

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Speaker 2: Morgan Wallen, Oh, dear, dear, dear, has a persistent drinking problem.

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Speaker 2: The secret to being happier it's quite easy. It's realizing

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Speaker 2: Happiness is all around you if you're smart enough to

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