1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,079 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 3: Here are the stories we're following today, big tech earnings. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 4: They will once again be the theme for markets this week, 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 4: and the Nasdaq will be in the spotlight after Friday's 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 4: nearly two percent surge, and as we hear from two 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 4: of the biggest tech companies. Bloomberg's John Tucker has a preview. 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Apple and Amazon are both scheduled or report quarterly results 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: after the closing bill on Thursday. Investors will be watching 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: for more about Apple asking supplies to keep iPhone shipments 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: flat year on year. We're also hearing Apple expects revenue 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: to grow through price hikes for iPhone Pro models. Apple's 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: resilience on Chinese manufacturing also of concern because of souring 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: relations between Washington and Beijing, and investors will likely be 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: interested in anything that Apple says about AI. As for Amazon, 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Intelligences watch to see if strength in streaming and 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: advertising will be offset by slowing consumer and enterprise spending. Also, 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: anything about online shopping and Amazon's push in the pharmacy 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: and grocery will be of interest. In New York. I'm 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: John Tucker, Bloomberg debreak. 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: All right, John, thanks well. Earnings are also very much 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: in focus overseas, and that has Heinegan investors crying in 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: their beer this morning with the detls from Bloomberg's You 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: and Pots in London. 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: You and good morning, Good. 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 5: Morning, Karon Nathan. First half operating profits slumping twenty two 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 5: percent on an adjusted basis. At Heineken, the world's second 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 5: largest brother, reporting beer volumes dropping more than expected after 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 5: its biggest price hikes in a decade. This as it 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 5: struggles to pass on high raw material costs to consumers 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 5: without driving them to cheaper brands. Hiderking shareholders waking up 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 5: to a nasty hangover this morning, with shares down as 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 5: much as six and a half percent. More widely, we're 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 5: two thirds of the way through European earning season, and 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 5: according to research from Bloomberg Intelligence, fifty percent of companies 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 5: have so far beaten consensus. In London, I'm une Pots, 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 5: Bloomberg daybreak. 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: Okay, ewan, thank you. Staying in Europe, Italy's economy unexpectedly 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: contracted in the second quarters. Domestic product shrank by three 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: tenths of one percent from the previous three months. That's 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: much worse than the zero growth analysts surveyed by Bloomberg 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: had expected. 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 3: Well Back here in the US, Nathan, the big economic 44 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: event comes on Friday with the July job support. Meantime, 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: economic heavyweights are weighing in on where US growth growth 46 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: goes from here. Minneapolis Fed President Neilkashkari says right hikes 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: will probably result in job losses and slower growth, and 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: that makes him optimistic on the fight against inflation. 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Overall. 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 6: I think that the inflation outlook is quite positive, that 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 6: it should be slowly diminishing from here. But again, we've 52 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 6: just continued to be surprised by the dynamics of this 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 6: reopening economy, and so we can't prejudge it. We have 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 6: to let the data actually guide us. 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: Minneapolis Fed President neilkash Carey made the comments on Face 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: the Nation from CBS Sketch the program every Sunday on 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Radio Nan Time. 58 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: In Asia, Karen Central Banking dominated the overnight trading session 59 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: thanks to a surprise move from the Bank of Japan. 60 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: The boj has stepped into the bond markets with unscheduled 61 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: purchases to bring down yields. That's after Japanese yields hit 62 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: their highest level in nine years. Bloomberg's Paul Dobson says, 63 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 4: the bank is clearly sending a message. 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 7: You know, the BJA is trying to tell us something 65 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 7: with this move. And what I think it's trying to 66 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 7: tell us is this doesn't want a kind of you know, 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 7: unseemly dash for the exit here. It doesn't want to 68 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 7: see a lot of volatility in the bond market. It 69 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 7: doesn't want to see us out one percent yields tomorrow, 70 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 7: even though it's said that okay, they can go up 71 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 7: towards that level. 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 4: Bloomberg's Paul Dobson says there is no clarity as to 73 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 4: when the bog might intervene again, and the yen has 74 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: weakened on the news that is currently trading at one 75 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: forty two point four to three against the dollar. 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: Wellly, economic data from China is also in focus. Nathan 77 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: economic activity loss more steam in July is manufacturing contracted 78 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: in the services sector weekend that has traders expecting more 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: stimulus measures from the government. Bloomberg's Rebecca Chewing that Wilkins 80 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: has more from Hong Kong. 81 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 8: Certainly sort of pessimistic tone in terms of the data itself, 82 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 8: but that's quite a contrast with what we've seen in 83 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 8: the market's response, and market's really betting on the promise 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 8: of policy support here. We still haven't seen many concrete, 85 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 8: tangible moves. But again, in a way, this sort of 86 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 8: weak of data that we're seeing coming out of China 87 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 8: reinforcing the expectations that policy makers will have to take 88 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 8: more comprehensive actions, particularly after we've seen this sort of duvish, 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 8: this tilt and more duvish tone. 90 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's re Becca Chewing Milkins says stocks in China rose 91 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: more than a half of a percent overnight. 92 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: In corporate news, Karen Walmart has paid one point four 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: billion dollars to buy Tiger Global Management's remaining stake in 94 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: Flip cart. The transaction values the Indian e commerce jand 95 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: at thirty five billion dollars. That's according to a letter 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 4: sent by Tiger to investors that was obtained by Bloomberg News. 97 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 3: Well, we're also keeping an Aya Mattel this morning. Nathan 98 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: Barbie once again the number one movie in the country, 99 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: earning another ninety three million dollars in its second weekend. 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: Christopher Nolans Oppenheimer remains in second, earning another forty six 101 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 3: point two million. 102 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: And in political news, Karen Umer President Donald Trumps super 103 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: pac says it's legal bills are piling up. Bloomberg z 104 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: Ed Baxter has the story. 105 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 9: With a number of charges against Donald Trump and the 106 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 9: Maral Logo classified information case growing to forty His fundraising 107 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 9: pack Save America is due to announce today it has 108 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 9: spent forty point two million dollars on legal costs just 109 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 9: in the first half of the year. 110 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 10: The group has. 111 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 9: Already begun calling back donations it has made to other 112 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 9: action committees, and there's concern that this will really dent 113 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 9: the spending the group can do to try to get 114 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 9: candidates elected in San Francisco. I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak. 115 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: Time now to take a look at some of the 116 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: other stories making news in New York and around the 117 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: world with Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 118 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 11: Good morning, Michael, Good morning, Nathan rip Currents on New 119 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 11: York beaches that have claimed the lives of two teenagers 120 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 11: in the past week. Off Coney Island, a fifteen year 121 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 11: old boy was discovered late Saturday night after getting caught 122 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 11: in a current. Thursday, afternoon while playing with his younger 123 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 11: brother in an area under red flag warnings. Another massive 124 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 11: search at Jacob Rhese Beach in Queens on Friday after 125 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 11: a rip current took under a teenage swimmer, identifying a 126 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 11: body as nineteen year old Amadu Tim. Hours later, this 127 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 11: man spotted the body. 128 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 12: Just kept seeing like a little shadow of the water 129 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 12: and we got close up with my flash, lay on 130 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 12: it and it was him. 131 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 11: According to the National Weather Service, rip currents are the 132 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 11: third leading cause of weather related deaths. Ukraine is apparently 133 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 11: intensifying its drone strikes on Russian soil, hitting targets in Moscow. Meanwhile, 134 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 11: Russia backed Ukraine's second largest city, Kerkiev, overnight as heavy 135 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 11: battles were reported around a score of locations. Kiev says 136 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 11: Ukraine will begin talks with the United States this week 137 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 11: about security guarantees the US will make to Ukraine, while 138 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 11: its application to NATO remains pending. Former US Ambassador to Ukraine, 139 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 11: Stephen Pfeiffer says the Ukraine wants to join NATO because 140 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 11: membership comes with military protection. 141 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 13: I think there's a belief in Ukraine which is correct 142 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 13: that if Ukraine were in fact anchored in NATO, the 143 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 13: Russians would not attack, and so we're looking really, I think, 144 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 13: beyond this current roar. 145 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 11: The chief of staff for Ukraine's president also said officials 146 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 11: from a number of countries are preparing to meet in 147 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 11: Saudi Arabia to discuss a peace plan for Ukraine that 148 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 11: would hinge on the departure of all Russian troops. Senate 149 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 11: majority the leader, Chuck Schumer, is urging the House to 150 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 11: include the fendof Fentanyl Act and its Defense bill when 151 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 11: members return in September, Calling this a breakthrough moment in 152 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 11: the Fentanel crisis, The Democrat from New York says the 153 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 11: act will dramatically cut the amount of fentanyl coming into 154 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 11: the New York area and the rest of the country. 155 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 11: The bill would allow. 156 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 14: The President to declare a state of emergency and put 157 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 14: tough sanctions on China for sending US the precursor chemicals 158 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 14: and Mexico for making those chemicals into fentoel. 159 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 11: The legislation is part of the bipartisan Defense bill passed 160 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 11: by the Senate last week. Global News twenty four hours 161 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 11: a day, powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists 162 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 11: nanalysts in over one hundred and twenty countries. 163 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm Michael Barr. 164 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 11: This is Bloomberg, Nathan. 165 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael. 166 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: Time now for the Bloomberg Sports up Day. Good morning, 167 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: John stash How. 168 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 15: Good morning Nathan. Aaron Judge back playing for the Yankees. 169 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 15: Hit a home run Saturday, and yet not in the 170 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 15: lineup last night in Baltimore, not even as a DH 171 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 15: A lot of people wondering why. As it turned out, 172 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 15: hardly mattered, not when Louis Severino's giving up seven runs 173 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 15: in the first inning and the Orioles went on to 174 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 15: win nine to three, and Severnino, who in his first 175 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 15: seven seasons with the Yanks only once had an ERA 176 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 15: of more than three and a half, now has an 177 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 15: ERA of seven and a half. This was his fourth 178 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 15: start where he had allowed at least seven runs. The 179 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 15: only good news for the Yankees the Astros, Blue Jays, 180 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 15: and Red Sox, who are all ahead of them in 181 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 15: the wildcard chase, all also lost. Mets one beat the 182 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 15: Nationals at City Field five to two. Career win number 183 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 15: two fifty for Justin Verlander, who was then asked about 184 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 15: his future in New York in light of the Mets 185 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,359 Speaker 15: recent trades of Max Scherzer and David Robertson. 186 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 12: When you see that happen, you know you can't help 187 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 12: but think. You know what's what's in store for next year, 188 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 12: and you know we played this game to win. You 189 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 12: want to win a championship and you want to you 190 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 12: don't have the opportunity to do so, So changed my 191 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 12: opinion a little bit. 192 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 15: Yeah, Mets GM Billy Effler insists the Mets recent moves 193 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 15: are not a fire sales shures are traded to Texas. 194 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 15: The Rangers have now also acquired the X Yankee Jordan 195 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 15: Montgomery from Saint Louis. Aaron Rodgers coming to the defense 196 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 15: of his Jets offensive coreator Nathaniel Hacket the last year 197 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 15: as the head coach in Denver, a job that now 198 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 15: belongs to Sean Payton, who recently said Hackett last year 199 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 15: did the worst coaching job in NFL history. Rodgers, who's 200 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 15: close to Hacket for their time in Green Bay, called 201 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 15: Peyton insecure. Jets play the Browns Thursday in Canton, Ohio. 202 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 15: Zach Wilson will start a quarterback Rodgers as expected, and 203 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 15: will not be John Stashellwerd Bloomberg. 204 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 10: Sports from Coast to Coast from New York to San Francisco, 205 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 10: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Syrias exam, the Bloomberg 206 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 10: Business app and Bloomberg dot Com. 207 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 208 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager at the start of another 209 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 4: very busy week in the markets. We have about a 210 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: third of S and P five hundred listed companies reporting 211 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: earnings this week. Apple and Amazon will be the big 212 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 4: ones to watch later on in the week. Traders could 213 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: also be looking for more clues on the policy path 214 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: with the first of two monthly jobs reports before the 215 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: fed's next decision in September. Lots to discuss this morning 216 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: with Dennis Gardman, the former publisher of the Gartman Letter 217 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: now chairman of the University of acron Endowment Investment Committee. 218 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: And Dennis is here with us now. Good morning, Thanks 219 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: for being here. So it has been a tech driven 220 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: rally that has dominated this year. Ken earnings continue to 221 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: power stocks hired. 222 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 16: Dennis, that's a good question, and it's a question beyond 223 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 16: my canaida. At this point, I have been surprised by 224 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 16: the strength of the stock market, to be quite honest, shocked, 225 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 16: to be even more blunt. It has surprised me beyond belief. 226 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 16: The fact that we've got the CNN Fair and Greed 227 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 16: Index has gotten to eighty five. That's actually dropped a 228 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 16: little bit, but the put call ratio is historically low. 229 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 16: The fact that the leading economic indicators have fallen below 230 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 16: the coincident indicators. All of these things are indicative of 231 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 16: a market that is overbought and do for a substantive slide. 232 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 16: But nonetheless the market continues to go higher and earnings 233 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 16: continue to beat on most instances. So I'm surprised, I'm shocked, 234 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 16: I'm stunned, and I'm wrong. But am I going to 235 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 16: go and be a buyer of stocks at this level? No, 236 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 16: it's a way beyond anybody's wildless imagination as to where 237 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 16: they have war stocks could go, and I will stand 238 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 16: on the sidelines and watch from the sidelines. 239 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 4: Well, we did get some I guess rationalisation on this 240 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: rally this morning from Mike Wilson, who's also been pretty bearish, 241 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: the analyst of Morgan Stanley. He's comparing what we've seen 242 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: this year to twenty nineteen, calling it policy driven late 243 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: cycle phenomenon. Could that be a possible justification for you 244 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 4: as well? 245 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 16: It's very much a justification. Clearly, there has been governmental 246 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 16: policies that have been incumbent in the strength of the 247 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 16: stock market. But most important, I guess it's the amount 248 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 16: of cash that's been sitting upon the s or that 249 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 16: was sitting upon the sidelines, a lot of which has 250 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 16: been put into the market in the past several weeks, 251 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 16: several months. But yeah, it's been policy driven, it's been 252 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 16: earnings driven. Man strangely enough, it's been economically driven. The 253 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 16: economy has proven to be far more resilient, far stronger 254 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 16: than I had thought it would be. But nonetheless, I'll 255 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 16: go with history and say that as long as the 256 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 16: leading economic indicators continue to fall below the coincidence, as 257 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 16: long as the put call ratio continues to be as 258 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 16: low as it is, and as long as the CNN 259 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 16: and greed index continues to be as high as it is, 260 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 16: I'll either stand upon the sidelines or be short. I'm 261 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 16: modestly short in my own account, and the objective word 262 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 16: here is modestly. 263 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: How do you expect policy to go at this point 264 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 4: when we have seen continued strength in the economic data, 265 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: and at the same time we continue to hear policy 266 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: makers like Neil Cashcari just yesterday leaving open the possibility 267 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 4: of yet more rate hikes. 268 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 16: I've always thought that once we get to five and 269 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 16: a quarter five and a half, that would probably be 270 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 16: about the end of it. When I first when the 271 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 16: FED began the process of raising interest rates almost a 272 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 16: year and a half ago, I wrote at that time 273 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 16: that what we have to remember is historically the Fed, 274 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 16: once they changed policy and move from to a new direction, 275 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 16: take rates much farther for a longer period of time 276 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 16: than anybody wants to anticipate. When we were at zero, 277 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 16: I said, we go to five percent. Who was laughable 278 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 16: at the time. Here we are at five and a 279 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 16: quarter five and a half. Maybe there's one more tightening 280 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 16: to be incumbent in the set of reserve, but I 281 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 16: have my doubts as to whether that's likely or not. 282 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 16: Time only shall tell. We'll see what happens with the 283 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 16: next two employment numbers that are coming out, the first 284 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 16: one coming out this week. I haven't done my work 285 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 16: yet to figure out what I'm going to anticipate for 286 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 16: the non farm payrolls number, but it's probably going to 287 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 16: be a high number. There's probably one more, maybe at 288 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 16: most two more increases in the overnight said funds rate, 289 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 16: But the market is already looking towards the easying monetary policy, 290 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 16: and that's not going to happen until very late in 291 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 16: twenty twenty four, maybe even twenty twenty five, before the 292 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 16: Fed begins the policy of reducing the overnight said funds rate. 293 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: Got about a minute left here, Dennis. We did get 294 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: another surprise overnight from the Bank of Japan with this 295 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: bond buying intervention. Do you see a read through to 296 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: the US market from what the boj is doing. 297 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 16: It's for the first time in a very long period 298 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 16: of time that the BOG is actually tightening monetary policy slightly. 299 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 16: They're going to be I think the term that mister 300 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 16: used was flex They're going to be flexible and allowing 301 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 16: rates to go higher. But Japan, being one of the 302 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 16: largest buyers of the mess of US debt securities, if 303 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 16: they're going to be allowing rates to go hire over there, 304 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 16: they're going to be allowing rates to go high over 305 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 16: here as money comes out of the United States and 306 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 16: moves to Japan at the margin. So it's not supportive 307 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 16: of the US bond market. 308 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak today. 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