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Speaker 1: What is going on, everybody, John Middle Coop Three and

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Speaker 1: Out Podcast. We had a moment, The NFL had a moment. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has officially been traded to the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. As of recording, this is still on the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, but obviously that won't be for long. So

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Speaker 1: we got a lot going on. They gave him a

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Speaker 1: historic amount of money. I'll give my thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: trade from both sides of the trade and Uh, some

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Belichick. I have been very, very critical, like

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Speaker 1: on the show or manually. And uh go any golf question.

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Speaker 1: Sam Burns just had a walk off. Sweet put in

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Speaker 1: extra holes. I think a second extra hole. Uh go

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Speaker 1: And let's start with the trade. It was crazy. I uh,

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, probably I would say

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Speaker 1: either one of the ballsy ballsiest trades or one of

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Speaker 1: the most reckless trades we've ever seen. And let's face

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Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns are somewhat desperate. Their franchise has

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Speaker 1: mostly been irrelevant for decades now. Two thousand tens they

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