WEBVTT - Episode 10: Here Comes the Break

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<v Speaker 1>I jump awake. It's a Saturday morning and I've got

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<v Speaker 1>my next therapy appointment today. I'm actually excited for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the breakthrough I had in

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<v Speaker 1>my meditation the other night. Mom makes breakfast bacon, eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>home fries, and grits, the whole nine, and after we eat,

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<v Speaker 1>that drives me over to the therapist office. So how

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<v Speaker 1>are things telling the truth? Things are going really well.

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<v Speaker 1>We almost didn't have an artist to interview this week,

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<v Speaker 1>but I reached out to this rapper I met during

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<v Speaker 1>my so called antic episode and she's open to being

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<v Speaker 1>a guest when I Seeson finale. M hm. And how

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<v Speaker 1>are things with your parents? It's getting much better? Come

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<v Speaker 1>our punishment next week. My parents agreed to fall back

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<v Speaker 1>a bit so that I can join Marco and Janella

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Lives Matter A really good for you. It

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<v Speaker 1>must be nice to have things back to normal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it feels like like things are really coming together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that a big part of that is

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<v Speaker 1>just me getting out of my own way. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to let go up the pass and stop fearing the future.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no time like the president exactly. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to sound all deep, but I had

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<v Speaker 1>a break tough meditate it. Oh you meditate. You haven't

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that to you before. Honestly, I could never even

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<v Speaker 1>sit for ten minutes before. I don't exactly go around

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<v Speaker 1>advertising it. I was inspired by stick from dead prayers.

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<v Speaker 1>I started off meditating for just five minutes at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as a way to manage anxiety. I always

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<v Speaker 1>felt anty and ended up fixating on one train of

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<v Speaker 1>thought or another. But the other night, it was wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I was letting all these starts and feelings just well

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<v Speaker 1>up and passed through me, and it was like I

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<v Speaker 1>could feel pins and needles rising up through my body.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like my my shockers were opening up. Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds just like Janell. Wow, Wow, that does sound

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<v Speaker 1>like quite a breakthrough. Does Janelle meditate too? You said

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<v Speaker 1>she's into mindful as practices, right, Yeah, you should ask

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<v Speaker 1>her to meditate with you. Maybe you can build up

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<v Speaker 1>your sitting time together. So really good, I do. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm here for. We're going to talk about my

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety and how it settled down over the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he kind of warns me that dis floating

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<v Speaker 1>on air filling can be a sign of hypomania. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a sort of high energy early stage of

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<v Speaker 1>mania that feels really good and confidence boosting, bucking signal

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<v Speaker 1>a coming episode. Considering my recent behavior, I should keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on it and note if I feel too

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<v Speaker 1>damn excited or distracted. If it's not one thing, it's another.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, not even more diagnosis talk could

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<v Speaker 1>get me down right now. I've been through the break

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<v Speaker 1>now and I'm on the other side ship. I jump

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<v Speaker 1>up in bed, drenched and sweat. I almost slept through

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<v Speaker 1>my alarm. Today's the big day, the interview after school,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the bl M rally tonight. I meant to

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<v Speaker 1>go to good night's sleep, but I ended up staying

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<v Speaker 1>awake until four ADM, prepping my questions and watching Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson interviews. What was I dreaming about to have me

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<v Speaker 1>waking in the panic attack, I don't even remember. It

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<v Speaker 1>was some kind of searching dream I was lost in

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<v Speaker 1>looking for my friends and family. Maybe he was about

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<v Speaker 1>having feeling this past month. I leaped by the bed

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<v Speaker 1>and start gathering my stuff for school. It text me

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<v Speaker 1>a minutes even realized that I still did get up

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<v Speaker 1>with my alarm. I'm not running late. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to rush through all this. I sit in an upright

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<v Speaker 1>position on my bed with my feet planning on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still I'll take a couple of deep rests. I

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<v Speaker 1>inhale and make sure my stomach expands like I'm filling

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<v Speaker 1>the bloom with air. And then I exhale and my

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<v Speaker 1>stomach starts to expand like I'm deflating a balloon. I

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<v Speaker 1>confront the anxiety attack head on and it begins to fade.

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<v Speaker 1>But even as it recedes, I still feel frustrated with myself. Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what my therapist was talking about the other day, hypomania.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been writing so high, I've been agitated, haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping right, and now I'm waking up in cold sweats,

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<v Speaker 1>and my lack of sleep has impacted me on my

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<v Speaker 1>busiest day since well since viral villa him off balance

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<v Speaker 1>on edge. My mood is starting to swing. It's exhilarating

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<v Speaker 1>to stop and become aware of my mood and control

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<v Speaker 1>my emotions so clearly cognitive behavioral therapy, my therapist calls it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's worrying in me too that this part of

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<v Speaker 1>my potential bipolar diagnosis is fit the pattern of my

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<v Speaker 1>recent behavior so well. Either way, I take another deep

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<v Speaker 1>breath and remind myself that I don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about that, I don't have to pathologize my behavior. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like when I went to the villa. On some level,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew what I was doing was wrong, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did it anyway and accepted the consequences. And even if

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been a manic break it was a

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<v Speaker 1>personal breakthrough for me too. Both things can be true.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a level of confidence that I didn't have before.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that my parents just wanted me to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with them, and my friends just wanted me to

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<v Speaker 1>stay humble. Now that I've claimed my power, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I need to focus on, staying honest and humble. That

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<v Speaker 1>and chugg an extra large coffee. I'm feeling more centered again.

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<v Speaker 1>I head downstairs for breakfast and pounding that coffee, then

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<v Speaker 1>make my way out of the house and down to

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<v Speaker 1>the subway station and head to book a t. When

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<v Speaker 1>I get to school and walk into the busy hallway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a jot of adrenaline. All the energy of

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<v Speaker 1>everybody bustling around wakes me up properly, even more than

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<v Speaker 1>the coffee deal. This is the day Janelle and I

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<v Speaker 1>present here comes to break is our class project to

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<v Speaker 1>Audio Lab. I should have thought of that in my

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<v Speaker 1>panic this morning. Keep your grades did. If you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to convince your parents that you got your life, figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Keep your grades decent, and then they'll believe you.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll believe me, I promise. I feel a pang of guilt,

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<v Speaker 1>but it subsides quickly. The truth is this particular grade

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<v Speaker 1>is for the podcast, and that's going great. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to worry about. We're gonna kick ass. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what we do. When we present to the class,

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<v Speaker 1>we explained the podcast format, content business model. Class already

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<v Speaker 1>knows the score. The word of the pot has been

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<v Speaker 1>spreading around school for months now, but our teacher is

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<v Speaker 1>very impressed. Our progress supports didn't go into details about

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<v Speaker 1>our listenership. There were more about the technical side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is news to her. Then Janelle talks about

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<v Speaker 1>our editorial stance, our questions about the artistic process, self care,

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<v Speaker 1>and social activism, and she catches me by surprise by

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting to the class that we're reaching the point of

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<v Speaker 1>signing ad sponsors. That's a turnaround from last week. Shoot

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<v Speaker 1>her an impressed glance, and she flashes me one of

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<v Speaker 1>those winning smiles. After the presentation, the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>day flies by. When the final bell rings, Danilla and

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<v Speaker 1>I meet up at the audio lab, and just like

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<v Speaker 1>last week, Marco joins us with time left over before

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<v Speaker 1>the interview starts Avengers as symbol. Damn, bro, do you

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<v Speaker 1>even stay at school to the closing bell anymore? You

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<v Speaker 1>got here fast? Do you really think that I would

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice my public school education to visit this booge institution

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<v Speaker 1>you called school. I've got hometown broad Okay, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes before we're supposed to be online with

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<v Speaker 1>oom bus, so let's talk about these adds again. Settle

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<v Speaker 1>into my chair behind the mic while Marco leans against

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<v Speaker 1>the door. I'll just say it, you guys were right.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of ideas, and I was enthusiastic

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<v Speaker 1>only about working with sponsors who prioritize the environment, the

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<v Speaker 1>ship that really matters. However, I know we're just starting

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<v Speaker 1>out and going the equal friendly route can be limiting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking of the pod and the contents

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<v Speaker 1>of the Class Project. Grooveen and I were doing focused

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<v Speaker 1>on that ideal presentation. But the class project is done

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to keep moving forward. Girl, you always

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<v Speaker 1>say the right thing. I'm gonna get us a great

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor and we'll incorporate the ads into all our existing episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>We're blowing up. Damn the way Janelle is able to

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<v Speaker 1>be so open minded and embrace change. I'm constantly overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 1>by all the other ships I got going on. I

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<v Speaker 1>make a mental note to ask relator about meditating together,

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<v Speaker 1>like my therapist suggested, And just then a window lights

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<v Speaker 1>up on Janell's can. Peter at the board ship looks

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<v Speaker 1>like oops calling in early. Janelle turns around the face

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<v Speaker 1>her workstation, and Marcop quiets down. I adjust my mic

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<v Speaker 1>can get ready for our last interview of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do this, okay? Bringing up online in three two one?

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<v Speaker 1>So my first question is, in an industry that's constantly

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<v Speaker 1>trying to define artists in your own words, can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell our listeners who is? Oh is I am? The

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<v Speaker 1>person is from Roxbury? I'm an artist, Auntie and sister

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<v Speaker 1>a friend. I'm an artist, you know, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>and feel it and I make it and I'm unafraid

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<v Speaker 1>to do so I think that's who I am. Roll.

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<v Speaker 1>But we only just met recently, but in my research,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you from your work and poetry, slam poetry.

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<v Speaker 1>Also I look at you like, I guess, like a

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<v Speaker 1>community leader. Like when I think of artists from Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just one of those individuals that I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>Boston art with. You know, what's your experiences like working

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<v Speaker 1>with young people in the community. Oh yeah, So as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I can remember, I had an affinity for

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<v Speaker 1>working with young people. So like when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>young person, I was still working with young people. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was like twelve something like that, eleven or twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had all the kids in my neighborhood in

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<v Speaker 1>the playground, like teaching them how to box or teaching

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<v Speaker 1>the math, and they just you know, like playing like

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<v Speaker 1>school teacher, even as a young person. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>a nice way for free babysitting essentially, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>all the neighborhood moms appreciated it. And then when I

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<v Speaker 1>got my first set of summer jobs in the city,

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<v Speaker 1>they were all in youth and peer education. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the goal for my mom for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>was that her kids would be eighteen. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we really knew like a future future situation um

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<v Speaker 1>for ourselves. So it wasn't until I had this math

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<v Speaker 1>teacher in high school and then an English teacher about

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<v Speaker 1>tenth grade, and they really changed a lot for me

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<v Speaker 1>because they were the first people, I think who said, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you could be something. You're very smart, you could be

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<v Speaker 1>something to find something that you want to do and

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And I was like, alright, cool, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what I want to do. I really like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, music, I really like poetry, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that people like me make careers out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems like you found it a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the middle of your high school career. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it something from with him or maybe any

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<v Speaker 1>outside influences that you gravitated towards to fund the strength? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think honestly, the reason I stayed on the right

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<v Speaker 1>path it was because I needed a place to stay

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<v Speaker 1>at that time. So I stayed in college for that

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<v Speaker 1>reason primarily. And the reason why I stayed I think there,

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<v Speaker 1>why I did well and why I stayed alive was

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like there was something bigger for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's something bigger. Was was was that art? Was

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<v Speaker 1>that activism? Actually, how do you balance between art and activism?

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<v Speaker 1>For my own sanity and my own piece. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been looking at the news and keeping inside of my

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<v Speaker 1>body the different names of black people who have been

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<v Speaker 1>killed by white supremacy and law enforcement. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, but it was really hard to not hear

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd's name. And then I watched from Dave Chappelle

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end of that, I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what if the only way for us to be truly

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<v Speaker 1>liberated as black people is to choose our own death

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<v Speaker 1>and to choose it before somebody else chooses it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>So that left me in this real crazy, just sad

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<v Speaker 1>place of like do I want to be here? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was thinking, okay, my new deal for being here,

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<v Speaker 1>my new deal with God for being here, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>have to think about what it means for me to

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<v Speaker 1>be here on this earth. And for me it became like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm not going out to the protest. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be reactive to white supremacy like white supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>does a thing. And now I have to protest. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still on white supremacies time, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>that for myself. So instead I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing for me to do is take care

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<v Speaker 1>of the most central Black person, the most the person

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm most responsible for, and that's myself, and finally

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<v Speaker 1>focus on my healing, Finally focus on my spirituality, finally

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<v Speaker 1>focus on being my authentic self and loving myself truly

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<v Speaker 1>and even the people around me, loving my community which

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<v Speaker 1>includes so many different kinds of people. But like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it twisted. If the war needs to happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I have to get my life to this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's where it has to go, I'm down for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the meantime, like until we're ready to push

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<v Speaker 1>that button, until that's ready to happen, I'm choosing peace,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm choosing love, and I'm choosing my healing for myself

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<v Speaker 1>and the people around me. That's what's gonna keep me

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<v Speaker 1>on this earth. So many of us, for different reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>live a whole life of service to everyone else and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else, and then we end up at seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>and all we did was give, and all we did

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<v Speaker 1>was live for other people, and it's like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>I take care of my people and keep liberation at

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<v Speaker 1>the center while also not losing the opportunity to live

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<v Speaker 1>my life and to live a life that I've been granted.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so in in in striking that balance. How have

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<v Speaker 1>you been taking care of yourself? Thank you for that question.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've been focusing a lot on I know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using air quotes now self care. Part of my

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<v Speaker 1>rest is my morning routine. I get up every day,

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<v Speaker 1>I go run, I take my time completely and at

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<v Speaker 1>different times every day. I run, I make my bed,

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<v Speaker 1>I drink, see, I meditate, I pray, I journal, I write.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of my process has been like making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm put in creativity. It's a meeting of the

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<v Speaker 1>body of the mind in the spirit. Like my body,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to put it in the place so that

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<v Speaker 1>I can do the work, like I can honor my craft.

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<v Speaker 1>So every morning I work on my chat book and

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<v Speaker 1>poetry because I like to write poems before the sun

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<v Speaker 1>is up. Like that. That's your U, that's what up. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when you drop your new work, we and

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<v Speaker 1>I know audience will be laiting. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for taking this time to be with us. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back and now back to the show. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a wrap on season one. Holy Ship. That interview, that

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<v Speaker 1>eat wow, I mean that was a dope interview. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to admit Ruben's back on his game lately. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's really matured as an interviewer, even if he's completely

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<v Speaker 1>on his bullshit with that running a waist on he bowled.

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<v Speaker 1>This was our best interview yet, everything said about her

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<v Speaker 1>existence being an active service. I just I really need

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out my place in this movement. Do I march?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I write letters to my local government and police station?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I donate? It's really exhausting being woke or to

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<v Speaker 1>care about more beyond yourself. I know we planned on

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<v Speaker 1>attending the BLM rally today, but to be honest, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm scared. I know Marco and Reuben will be

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<v Speaker 1>joining me, but black girls aren't safe. I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>stop thinking about Brianna Taylor. I mean, she was in

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<v Speaker 1>the comfort of our own home and murdered. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>should just follow this lad and stay home. Maybe my

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<v Speaker 1>place isn't on the frontlines. Marco jumps off the studio

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<v Speaker 1>lab do or He's been leaning on in chimes in

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<v Speaker 1>did this dude just hear my thoughts? That was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>spooky for this gus protests. Considering we're all about to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a rally together. I feel my cheeks flush

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly I'm self conscious. Do you guys don't want to go?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we don't have you know, I'm down. This

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<v Speaker 1>is how I'm celebrating closing out this season. Remember, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, Jay, you know you're the activists of the squad.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you being all weird? Now? Be happy? Mon

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<v Speaker 1>g we just ended the season. Okay, I'm in. I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>They're enthusiasm is reassuring for a second, but I'm still afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been really tense in the city. It's our age

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<v Speaker 1>have been arrested, ended up missing, or pepper sprayed during

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<v Speaker 1>the marchis In protests. I can't back out now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the one who convinced Reuben to pitch this to

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<v Speaker 1>his parents, and Marco just always tags along. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm kind of their mama or something. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just a damn shame. Who's going to protect me? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the woman in the situation. These guys better have my

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<v Speaker 1>back When something goes down tonight. We should get going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna take a while to get on. The train

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<v Speaker 1>is at again h Fort Greene Park in Brooklyn. How

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to rush to me? I'm still exporting

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<v Speaker 1>the files from the recording session. Just give me a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>The session is exporting. Reuben throws his hands up, like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right. I still can't wrap my head

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<v Speaker 1>around it. And when I first met this kid, he

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<v Speaker 1>was so timid. Then he completely wilds out, like out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. But even when I first met him, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was so inside himself, he could tell there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going on underneath the surface. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>called him over at lunch that day. They're the files

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<v Speaker 1>are ready. I fire off the copy so all three

0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.399
<v Speaker 1>of us can dig into the raw material later, and

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<v Speaker 1>I closed out the pro tool session. Now y'all can relax.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. Now, we all gather up our backpacks and

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<v Speaker 1>make our way out of book or Team. Soon we're

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<v Speaker 1>on a train, and Reuben's right, it's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a long rack to Brooklyn. Still, this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like old times before Ruben's whole Villa drama, when we're

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<v Speaker 1>going out to shows together, when we were all about

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<v Speaker 1>the artists and the music. It was about logging in

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<v Speaker 1>interviews and not ads from sponsors. Of course, Marco was

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<v Speaker 1>on his phone promoting the season finale. He's always been

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<v Speaker 1>his own best hype man. Reuben lost in his own

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<v Speaker 1>head replaying the interview and critiquing himself. And then there's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to figure out what's my future and all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Do I want to be more than a secretary?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I always want to be behind the scenes. I

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<v Speaker 1>want more. I have to decide which college I'm attending

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<v Speaker 1>in the fall. Will it be Spellman Howard Columbia or

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<v Speaker 1>Emmerson College in Boston. I still feel nervous about the rally,

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<v Speaker 1>being out there on the front lines, but I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to tonight. It's important that we're showing solidarity

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<v Speaker 1>for the black lives and just they lost. This isn't

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<v Speaker 1>my first rally. Being out there in the streets with

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<v Speaker 1>other protesters makes me feel electric. I remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>returned home for my first rally. I was out there

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for justice for tray Von Martin. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>fired up, and to be so young. ILL never forget

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling. I never stopped chasing that feeling I lost

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<v Speaker 1>my voice by the time I got home after the

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<v Speaker 1>March for Justice. But when Upa talked about needing to

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<v Speaker 1>back away from all the news for healing and self care,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that we've been asking artists about their activism

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<v Speaker 1>all season. But she talked about how her existence is

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<v Speaker 1>an act of resistance. That just blew my mind. I

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<v Speaker 1>turned to Reuben, are you thinking about the interview? That

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<v Speaker 1>was insane? She got me reevaluating my entire life right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm speechless. When we get to the station,

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<v Speaker 1>we hear the crowd noise growing as we run up

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<v Speaker 1>the steps. On the far side of the park, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a stand on someone using a megaphone, but it's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but a muffled noise from the end of the station.

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<v Speaker 1>We make our way into the rally. Margaret puts his

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<v Speaker 1>phone away for once and all three of us can

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<v Speaker 1>the intense energy. I feel a rush of adrenaline. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many people gathering about, just enjoying the vibe. A

0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.520
<v Speaker 1>drum circle jams over by the monument in the center

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<v Speaker 1>valent here's a various activist groups handing up newsletters, bottled water,

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<v Speaker 1>and signing up new folks. Of the cause. It's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>like the news depicts. It's not chaotic, just alive. I

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<v Speaker 1>look around the edges of the park and see rows

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<v Speaker 1>of cops along the edges. I'm not gonna lie, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's alimidating. Isn't necessary for all these cops to be

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<v Speaker 1>out here. There's plenty of space between them and the

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<v Speaker 1>rally though, no signs of kettling the protesters or people

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<v Speaker 1>throwing watterle bottles at them. I reassure myself that the

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<v Speaker 1>energy is positive tonight. Yeah, I'm glad we came out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a couple of my girls are going to

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<v Speaker 1>meet us here. I'm just waiting to see if they

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<v Speaker 1>text me. A group chance starts forming around us, and

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<v Speaker 1>I see Reuben and get approached by a twenty something

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<v Speaker 1>year old in a red T shirt with the clipboard.

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<v Speaker 1>I glanced over at Markow when he's got his phone

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<v Speaker 1>out again to taking video. I slip my phone out

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<v Speaker 1>to check for text and see nothing. So I raised

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<v Speaker 1>my fist, joining the chape and only last for a

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<v Speaker 1>minute before some of the crowds starts speeding up and

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<v Speaker 1>marching across the park. I look around for Reuben and

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<v Speaker 1>Marco again, just if they want to follow the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>or keep exploring the park. Marco emerged from the crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>tucking his phone back in his pocket. Where's Reuben learned

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<v Speaker 1>with that clipboard girl? If he has any sense? I

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<v Speaker 1>look around and find the red shirt quick enough, But

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<v Speaker 1>still no Ruben. Clipboard girl has moved on to chat

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<v Speaker 1>with the middle aged white guy the goat cheap ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the hell is he? Reuben? Marco sees clipboard girls too,

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<v Speaker 1>Still no Reuben. J chill, he probably want to take

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<v Speaker 1>a leak. We'll find him. Let's keep walking. I don't

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.600
<v Speaker 1>have a good feeling about this. A black kid alone,

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<v Speaker 1>separated from his friends at the BLM protest. This it

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<v Speaker 1>can't be good. I have to find him. If he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't REATO him home, his parents are going to freak

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.679
<v Speaker 1>out and never trust me again. He's gonna be grounded

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<v Speaker 1>for life. What the hell he was just here? Did

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<v Speaker 1>he follow the crowd? I turned a three sixties scanning

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<v Speaker 1>for him, but nothing. What's going on in that boy's head?

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<v Speaker 1>How am I supposed to find Ruben when he's wearing

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<v Speaker 1>all black to Black Lives Matter March. Almost everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in black here. I play a coolful Marco, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can go a ball rising in my throat the

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<v Speaker 1>worst case scenarios just starting to play out of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I pause, take a deep breath, don't for catch. You

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:31.199
<v Speaker 1>know everything's gonna be fine. But I can tell by

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<v Speaker 1>the look at Marco's eyes he's concerned. To Reuben has

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<v Speaker 1>been acting out so much. What if a cup approached

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.480
<v Speaker 1>him and he just snapped like the dude has a

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of pent up anger. Where the hell is he?

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I pick up my phone and I call him. His

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<v Speaker 1>phone goes straight to worse Now shit Ruben Ruby and

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<v Speaker 1>Now an exclusive track from UMPA featuring into Christopher Ow.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, yeah, top down, let's just take a

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>scenic round. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you like nature last

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm thin in the clown. They're calming down. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a long, wide row and leaving is all I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it. Don't speed through the night right slow right, slow,

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<v Speaker 1>eyes closed signs to slow for my master. Go and

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<v Speaker 1>go and go and go and go and go go.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta everything you're doing to make you digging on

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<v Speaker 1>and how you be digging in my back like you're

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 1>looking for feeling that you feeling in your grass. Every

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<v Speaker 1>time I try to quit, you come with it. I'll relax.

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<v Speaker 1>Need me another hit U buck fifty. I'm here and

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<v Speaker 1>gas for She said it uge. You don't even have

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to ask for for girls said. We don't even need

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>no passports. We could take a flight if you ain't

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 1>afraid of heights where we're going on tonight, you don't

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 1>need no boy, the mass you're don't know if I'm

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 1>swimming now, don't know if I'm drawing to know. I

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>know what's that I'm kicking. The notion is all around me.

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Tell me that she loved me. Boy, I know it's

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 1>something bigger than cameras. Is gonna be quick and we'll

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.199
<v Speaker 1>see you in the bigger pictures. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I know she want me calm with that

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<v Speaker 1>so good. I'm forgetting that as wrong as it worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know many work it, but I got a goal confessional.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrestless. I guess it best high. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>bus somewhere down the way to go and go and go.

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<v Speaker 1>We go, he goes and he go go and go

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<v Speaker 1>go Sta gop and go got go. Everything will make

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<v Speaker 1>a chose one where you Don't Want to Go Child,

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<v Speaker 1>Where You Wanting Here Comes to Break is produced by

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<v Speaker 1>Double Elvis and partnership with I Heart Radio Executive produced

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<v Speaker 1>Black Is Ruben, Produced by Daniella Perkins who plays Janelle,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby cs Is Marco, Christopher V. Edwards as Dad, Raymie

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<v Speaker 1>Cornell is Mom, and Taylor Bettenson. Written by Taylor Bettenson

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<v Speaker 1>and the Kia Hill Artist Interviews conducted by Nikia Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>directed by Christopher V. Edwards, mixed and edited by Matt

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