Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by Wes Hodkoits.
Speaker 1: We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau
Speaker 1: Field and West. I'm not quite sure where to start
Speaker 1: here on a Monday after that game Sunday afternoon at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field, but I will start by saying, you have
Speaker 1: permission to call me a liar because I said all
Speaker 1: last week only one team in the NFC North would
Speaker 1: be two and oh at the end of week two
Speaker 1: and nobody the Packers and the Vikings one oh and
Speaker 1: one after a nine tie. And uh boy, I don't
Speaker 1: know that that was. That was some game. It was
Speaker 1: some game in here's the tragedy in this, Mike. Uh
Speaker 1: this is a really good football game, especially through the
Speaker 1: first three quarters. I know for Packer fans that's easy
Speaker 1: to say, but just in terms of the overall mechanics
Speaker 1: of a football game, I thought it was just it
Speaker 1: was two bulls clashing horns, Aaron Rodgers playing through the knee.
Speaker 1: Everyone's taking pictures of the brace before the game, the
Speaker 1: way the Packers offensive blind blocked, particularly in the the
Speaker 1: you know, the first three quarters of that you have
Speaker 1: the Vikings Kirk Cousins having a hard time getting going early.
Speaker 1: Their defense is doing some good things, but yet the
Speaker 1: Packers are kind of getting yards against the run with them.
Speaker 1: They're just so many elements to it. And what hurts
Speaker 1: is it was in officiating. You know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to call to ball under you take it for what
Speaker 1: it is. Everyone has their own opinion, but this is
Speaker 1: Mike where you said you're a liar. I have to
Speaker 1: admit I was wrong, and at this time I haven't
Speaker 1: started working on Insider Inbox yet for Tuesday, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to put in there I was wrong because
Speaker 1: I said during the preseason the rules emphasis emphasies are
Speaker 1: going to work their way out the referees hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: use common sense and we'll get past this. And it's
Speaker 1: not working out that way. No, it's not. It's not.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, you know the game, it always has a
Speaker 1: way of happening like this that you complicate the rules,
Speaker 1: you make things difficult on the officials, and certain calls
Speaker 1: are going to happen at the crucial moments with the
Speaker 1: game on the line, the Packers think they have the
Speaker 1: Game one, when Jayra Alexander makes a heck of a
Speaker 1: play on the ball. Let's not forget about that. I
Speaker 1: was a Willie Mays over the shoulder catch. Somebody put
Speaker 1: him on the deep fly to center field. Yeah for real.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know how he made that catch.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that it just it
Speaker 1: doesn't it's not a story. So the Packers think they
Speaker 1: have the game one, but the flag is out on
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews and we find out after the game. Tony Currenti,
Speaker 1: the referee, spoke with ESPNS Rob Dmowsky for a pool report, which,
Speaker 1: for those who don't understand, that's where one reporter gets
Speaker 1: to talk to an official and then his interview is
Speaker 1: dispersed to all the media so that it's not a
Speaker 1: press conference with all sorts of reporters per se with
Speaker 1: a referee. But he does answer some questions and then
Speaker 1: his explanations get distributed. So from the pool report, the ruling,
Speaker 1: according to Karente, was that Matthews lifted and planted Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins into the ground. Essentially, now there was because before
Speaker 1: that there was all sorts of speculation was that the
Speaker 1: body weight rule. Did he actually think that hit was
Speaker 1: too late or you know, because it was to the midsection,
Speaker 1: it didn't seem like it was late. So now after
Speaker 1: you get the ruling, then you go back and look
Speaker 1: at it. And this is the simplest way I can
Speaker 1: put it. It looks to me like Cousins comes off
Speaker 1: the ground because of the momentum of his throw, like
Speaker 1: trying to launch that deep ball is when his feet
Speaker 1: come off the ground. That happens to be when Matthews
Speaker 1: hits him. So CURRENTI sees it as Matthews lifting and
Speaker 1: throwing into the ground, which really is not what happened.
Speaker 1: So I'm simply going to say what I said an
Speaker 1: insider inbox this morning and answering all these questions from
Speaker 1: the fans. If the NFL is going to make the
Speaker 1: rules this complicated, and they're going to protect players and
Speaker 1: especially protect quarterbacks, then they also need to protect the
Speaker 1: results of the games and let these controversial calls be
Speaker 1: looked at on replay. I don't see how the league
Speaker 1: has any other choice to eventually, at some point, I
Speaker 1: don't know when, but to allow plays like that to
Speaker 1: be reviewed, because one look at the replay and it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews didn't do anything wrong. That play should have
Speaker 1: stood as called. Yeah, I agree, and I understand there
Speaker 1: is a time element to it. I understand that they
Speaker 1: always want to pick up the speed of play, they
Speaker 1: want to keep people interested. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, this is about winning and losing coaches, players,
Speaker 1: It's about having a league that people believe the results
Speaker 1: are just and that the results are fair and they're
Speaker 1: not just arbitrary. Right. But I mean, like this is
Speaker 1: this is a big thing, Mike. Then they're at a
Speaker 1: crossroads in this in my opinion, because now you're you're
Speaker 1: looking at I mean again, for for Mike McCarthy is
Speaker 1: in his thirteenth year here, He's been through all the
Speaker 1: highs and lows of this thing. There aren't there are
Speaker 1: teams out there that aren't that well established. There's teams
Speaker 1: that you know, coaches are trying to cement their system
Speaker 1: and trying to cement their foundation working with these players
Speaker 1: for the first time, and I don't know what they
Speaker 1: tell him. On Monday morning during the film review, the
Speaker 1: only question to Mike McCarthy's credit, he he didn't want
Speaker 1: to make his postgame news conference about the comments he
Speaker 1: did say, though, when I believe it was. Dave Schrader
Speaker 1: asked him from w B A Y, is there any
Speaker 1: other way to coach? And he said, I don't believe so.
Speaker 1: So um in the two other elements I want to
Speaker 1: touch on other than the instant replay, because I think
Speaker 1: you're right. If this is the route they're gonna go,
Speaker 1: there's ramifications of that, and this should be one of
Speaker 1: the responses to it. I now fully I'm on board
Speaker 1: with that, but I thought, and I tweeted this after
Speaker 1: the game. Kenny Clark and the story that I wrote
Speaker 1: for our website had such a great articulated point that
Speaker 1: wasn't emotional, but he just said, listen, we're coached too.
Speaker 1: Move your head to the side so you're not hitting
Speaker 1: him in the helmet, proceed through the player's body with
Speaker 1: your feet and take them down with wrap up with
Speaker 1: the arms, and whatever happens, that's what happens. But the
Speaker 1: game is moving so fast now that it's tough for
Speaker 1: referees the process that in his Clark said, He's like,
Speaker 1: do we have to demonstrably twist our body in the sack? Now?
Speaker 1: And I think you actually saw Sheldon Richardson do that,
Speaker 1: but he was outside the pocket with Aaron Rodgers. When
Speaker 1: you're in the heat of battle, you're then putting the
Speaker 1: defensive player at a position where they're compromised. Mike Daniels
Speaker 1: talked about this too, the play where it appears like
Speaker 1: he lets up at the end of it with Mike
Speaker 1: Reamer's is blocking him. He said, one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why he didn't follow through is one, you're not sure
Speaker 1: Cousin is gonna get the ball out. In two if
Speaker 1: he proceeds through the tech, you have a three pound
Speaker 1: guard that's gonna fall on top of you. Well, what's
Speaker 1: the ref gonna do. It's a difficult position for them
Speaker 1: to be in. Yeah, and then and again this is
Speaker 1: where and I go back to what I've said about
Speaker 1: a lot of these calls over the last several years,
Speaker 1: even going back to last season, I think what the
Speaker 1: league is asking the officials to do on the field
Speaker 1: is unfair. These guys, these guys are big, they are fast,
Speaker 1: they are strong. Things happen at full speed, and for
Speaker 1: these games to hinge on calls that are very very
Speaker 1: difficult to make at live speed that I think for
Speaker 1: to to avoid these types of controversies, and you're not
Speaker 1: going to completely avoid them. I shouldn't say avoid, but
Speaker 1: to reduce. I think you can greatly reduce the number
Speaker 1: of controversies if you allow more things to be reviewed. Now,
Speaker 1: nobody wants four hour games, nobody wants everything to be
Speaker 1: stopped by replay. But at some point, if player safety
Speaker 1: and all of this and protecting quarterbacks and everything is
Speaker 1: going to be paramount, and I don't disagree with that,
Speaker 1: then there has to be a tradeoff, and the tradeoff
Speaker 1: can't be well, you just have to live with these
Speaker 1: controversial calls. As as a fan of the game, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about this is sitting here wearing my Packers shirt.
Speaker 1: As a fan of the game, I don't accept that
Speaker 1: as a trade off. The tradeoff needs to be the
Speaker 1: results need to be just and fair and baseball Baseball
Speaker 1: postseason games are getting very difficult to watch. But as
Speaker 1: I as I also said in Insider Inbox this morning,
Speaker 1: there won't be any more Don Denking or moments that
Speaker 1: decide a World Series championship because Baseball has decided replay
Speaker 1: is important enough that you can't have everybody talking about
Speaker 1: what should have been The calls need to be right,
Speaker 1: as often as possible, and I think the NFL is
Speaker 1: eventually going to have to decide that that's what they
Speaker 1: need to do. Yeah, And and then just you know,
Speaker 1: kind of sum up that point to Mike as we
Speaker 1: proceed now going forward, I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: they're going to go about this, handling this, you know,
Speaker 1: day after day, game after game, A lot of questions
Speaker 1: are gonna have to answer. But I'll say this, Mike,
Speaker 1: the NFL officials office in New York is as well
Speaker 1: positioned to handle something like that as they've ever been.
Speaker 1: We've seen more stuff go to a centralized replay system.
Speaker 1: There's a possibility there for them to be able to
Speaker 1: absorb that. The question is going to be what's the
Speaker 1: trade off. Yeah, And as I'm looking at my colleague here,
Speaker 1: I'm realizing that Don Danking or reference from the Cardinals
Speaker 1: Royals World Series is before you were even born, right
Speaker 1: over my head. So, okay, I know that one that
Speaker 1: happened though, with the kid grabbing the ball. I think
Speaker 1: at Yankee Stadium? Was it or was it that was
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Mayer? That was Yankees Orioles? Yeah, that was Richie Garcia.
Speaker 1: I got that one line. Yeah, that was yeah now,
Speaker 1: don Denking, or was before you were born, but you
Speaker 1: can google it. World Series call it first base changed
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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Okay, controversy aside. I think what really
Speaker 1: sting is about this game for the Packers is as
Speaker 1: well as they played for such a large portion of
Speaker 1: the game and having numerous opportunities to put the game
Speaker 1: away and it didn't happen. Aaron Rodgers, I thought, played
Speaker 1: a tremendous game on his bad left knee. Was definitely
Speaker 1: more mobile than he was in the second half against
Speaker 1: Chicago the previous week. That was a good sign um
Speaker 1: he really the Packers really moved the ball pretty darn
Speaker 1: well overall against one of the league's best defense. Is
Speaker 1: what was the league's best defense a year ago. And uh,
Speaker 1: but it was just an inability to finish in the
Speaker 1: red zone. Kicking too many field goals, you have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to win the game at the end of regulation.
Speaker 1: Mason Crosby makes the first one, but the time out
Speaker 1: was called before the snap, and then he misses the
Speaker 1: second one. UM. The Vikings obviously blow two field goals
Speaker 1: in overtime. We know all about that as well. UM.
Speaker 1: Just a tough one to swallow, because it would be
Speaker 1: nice if we were talking about the Packers finding a
Speaker 1: way to put this game away and not worrying about
Speaker 1: what happened with Matthew. The end result really didn't fit
Speaker 1: what the overall storyline was, the narrative of that football game.
Speaker 1: I think that's the tough part because one of the
Speaker 1: things I wrote on the Insider Inbox on Saturday was
Speaker 1: that regardless of rather or not Rogers played, And as
Speaker 1: it turns out, Mike McCarthy said he ended up taking
Speaker 1: most of the practice reps on Saturday, he was out there.
Speaker 1: But regardless, everybody needs to elevate their game. I thought
Speaker 1: the offensive line, especially early on, played really well, given
Speaker 1: him a manageable pocket. You saw Geronimo Allison. He had
Speaker 1: six catches for sixty four yards and he blocked that punt.
Speaker 1: I mean watching that play, Mike, he put his hand
Speaker 1: out there, he put his body out there. He was
Speaker 1: everything to extend and Josh Jackson ends up grabbing the touchdown.
Speaker 1: Gives him a huge jolt of energy. Early on, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham had an exceptional game, six catches for I believe
Speaker 1: it was eighty five yards. Maybe you can make the arguments,
Speaker 1: should maybe make the argument should have been even more.
Speaker 1: That play gets called back due to probably a pretty
Speaker 1: questionable holding call as well, and then he goes and
Speaker 1: makes that big catch near the sideline that actually set
Speaker 1: it up for Mason Crosby to try the game winner. Crosby,
Speaker 1: he mentioned that was going down to his best game
Speaker 1: in the regular season, and the narrative changes. Yeah, he's five,
Speaker 1: He's five for five, which ties his career high for
Speaker 1: made field goals in a game, goes out there for
Speaker 1: the fifty two yard or and you know, after what
Speaker 1: I thought was very similar to the Rogers to Jared
Speaker 1: Cook play in Dallas in the playoffs. You know where
Speaker 1: where the time is running out, you just don't think
Speaker 1: the Packers have enough time to get in field goal range.
Speaker 1: Rogers makes a connection with the tight end along the sideline,
Speaker 1: big gainer. Then you're in position, and Crosby's having having
Speaker 1: the game of his life. And as I said, he
Speaker 1: makes the first one, but it doesn't count. He plays
Speaker 1: the exact same line with the wind blowing to the right,
Speaker 1: and on the second one, the wind just didn't blow
Speaker 1: it back in like it had with all his other
Speaker 1: kicks during the day, and uh um. And so the
Speaker 1: game goes to overtime, and just just unfortunate because it
Speaker 1: would have been it would have been really something to
Speaker 1: see the Packers pull out. And as you and I
Speaker 1: were talking about before, and Danny Carlson going out there,
Speaker 1: Daniel Cardinal Sinex used me he was having trouble with
Speaker 1: that same end zone ball pushing right, three miss field goals,
Speaker 1: kicking to that particular side of the stadium. Tough position
Speaker 1: for both sides. And and I mean both of these
Speaker 1: teams afterwards, and I wrote about it a lot of
Speaker 1: mixed emotions because it's a big game. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: NFC North, it's one of the as I mentioned before,
Speaker 1: two of the top teams I think in this conference
Speaker 1: and for it to end this way, there is that
Speaker 1: feeling of just sort of an unresolved outcome, and that's
Speaker 1: sometimes tough to process. Yeah, it's unresolved in the rematch
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis is more than two months away. You're talking
Speaker 1: about the Sunday of Thanksgiving weekend before these teams are
Speaker 1: going to uh meet again. But it's interesting. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to get all back into the Matthews controversy
Speaker 1: because I think I think we've discussed that plenty. But
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me how the perception of everything that
Speaker 1: went on in this game changes with that one call,
Speaker 1: Because if you look at Kirk Cousins, and I take
Speaker 1: nothing away from, you know, the way Kirk Cousins performed
Speaker 1: in this game and that fourth quarter rally and everything,
Speaker 1: but if the flag isn't out on Matthews and the
Speaker 1: inner option with Alexander stands, and that basically ends the game.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins ends up with about two hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: yards passing because he had about a hundred and forty
Speaker 1: yards after the interception was nullified, has three touchdowns, two interceptions.
Speaker 1: Is passer rating is certainly under a hundred with the
Speaker 1: second interception, and all the headlines in Minnesota are They're wondering,
Speaker 1: why did we really get our money's worth work with
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. He throws two interceptions late in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter with the game on the line. Instead, what are
Speaker 1: the headlines in Minnesota? This is why the Vikings signed
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins because he ends up with four five yards,
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, twenty two points in the fourth quarter to
Speaker 1: pull a game into overtime that the Vikings seemingly were
Speaker 1: out of and um give the Vikings defense credit. They
Speaker 1: stopped a lot of those opportunities where the Packers did
Speaker 1: have a chance to put it away, especially after Clinton
Speaker 1: Dix's deflected interception the balls at the thirteen yard line.
Speaker 1: I said to you write when it happened because of
Speaker 1: the clock in Minnesota's time outs, I was like, this
Speaker 1: game is not over. The Packers either need a touch
Speaker 1: down or a first down. They could add a first
Speaker 1: down at the three yard line. They need a touchdown
Speaker 1: or a first down to be able to put this
Speaker 1: game away. A field goal will not do it, and
Speaker 1: we'll give the Vikings another chance. And then that that's
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. The Vikings got one more chance, and
Speaker 1: and uh, it's just it's interesting to me just how
Speaker 1: the how the narratives completely flipped because we'd be talking
Speaker 1: about the Packers being two and oh they just got
Speaker 1: a leg up on the Vikings and you know everything else.
Speaker 1: And but that's that's the way of this league. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you just have to shrug your shoulders and smile and
Speaker 1: laugh a little bit because it's two games in. There's
Speaker 1: four team more of these to go, and a lot
Speaker 1: is going to happen between now and the new year,
Speaker 1: right and one of the other things I think would
Speaker 1: have been a big storyline probably would have been a
Speaker 1: sidebar at least the notes lead to my my coverage
Speaker 1: was the fact that that sub base defensive Packers turn
Speaker 1: to actually worked out pretty well early on. I think
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of attrition there towards the
Speaker 1: end they lose Kevin King. That's a big one. Him
Speaker 1: exiting that game with the groin injury. I think you've
Speaker 1: seen with him Jackers. Packers missed him in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: there's no question. Literally right before he goes out, Mike,
Speaker 1: he makes a picture perfect coverage. I believe it was
Speaker 1: on Stefon digs along the sideline. He's with them step
Speaker 1: for step on third down with no help over the top,
Speaker 1: just showing you the kind of athlete he is. And
Speaker 1: the other side of that is with Devon House going in,
Speaker 1: they didn't really have another backup defensive back. After that,
Speaker 1: they moved over to their sub nickel package, so they
Speaker 1: started with Corey Tumor as the other inside linebacker. They
Speaker 1: shift over to Jermaine Whitehead with Josh Jones, um, Deonte Burton,
Speaker 1: and Raven Green all down. That was the Packers defense.
Speaker 1: When they went seven dbs or six dbs, they were
Speaker 1: pretty much up if they were so It's just it is.
Speaker 1: It's tough how things changed because I thought we saw
Speaker 1: exactly what I was thinking we might see with Mike Petton,
Speaker 1: and that we saw so many dbs early on, and
Speaker 1: then they shifted a lot of base, a lot of
Speaker 1: sub base where you have Mohammed Wilkerson playing a five
Speaker 1: technique defensive end without an outside backer on his shoulder.
Speaker 1: They made the right adjustments to to compensate for Delvin Coke,
Speaker 1: who only had thirty eight rushing yards. It's just that
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think with the
Speaker 1: weather conditions and everything else that happened, and obviously trying
Speaker 1: to fight back from the the callback interception. Um, those
Speaker 1: are a lot of plays and it was pretty hot
Speaker 1: for September Day. Agree in Green Bay. I think the guys,
Speaker 1: when you look at that defense, played exceptional. I mean
Speaker 1: in terms of giving it their full effort the whole way.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's that's they basically played five quarters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that defense was clearly out of gas at the end
Speaker 1: of the game. I thought Minnesota's defense was was just
Speaker 1: as out of gas and in that respect, and you
Speaker 1: know when I laid out all of the missed opportunities
Speaker 1: for the Packers in my editorial after the game, whether
Speaker 1: you want to look at the overtime possession second and
Speaker 1: one from the thirty seven yard line, Rogers thinks he's
Speaker 1: got a great call with the read kind of the
Speaker 1: read option keep, but Jamal Williams is kind of trying
Speaker 1: to grab the ball, doesn't know Rogers wants to pull
Speaker 1: it back. It causes a fumble. Rogers recovers it, fortunately,
Speaker 1: but you lose three yards. So you go from second
Speaker 1: and one to third and four. Now you're kind of
Speaker 1: out of fuel. Goal range, you need to get something
Speaker 1: bad to give Mason Crosby another shot. You end up
Speaker 1: taking a sack on third down and you have to punt,
Speaker 1: which then leads to the Vikings getting their one last
Speaker 1: shot at the field goal, which then was missed. But
Speaker 1: the missed opportunities also started in the third quarter with
Speaker 1: the Packers up seventeen to seven. They think they have
Speaker 1: the touchdown to Jimmy Graham to put them up three scores,
Speaker 1: which really was going to put the pressure on Minnesota.
Speaker 1: You make this a three score deficit for them, but
Speaker 1: the holding call on Lane Taylor calls that back and
Speaker 1: then the Packers end up kicking a field goals, so
Speaker 1: instead of twenty four to seven, seventeen points, it's twenty
Speaker 1: seven thirteen points, just two touchdowns. The Packers never got
Speaker 1: that three score lead, and uh and then in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter never got it back to that to score
Speaker 1: advantage because they kept kicking field goals while the Vikings
Speaker 1: were scoring touchdowns. Just a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: missed opportunities. And I asked Aaron Rodgers in his postgame
Speaker 1: press conference, Okay, all of those field goal drives, you know,
Speaker 1: was there any one of those where you walked off
Speaker 1: the field and just said, man, that really really should
Speaker 1: have in a touchdown. And he just said every single
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, he just he he felt
Speaker 1: like he felt like the Packers kind of gave this
Speaker 1: one away because they couldn't finish drives. And as I said,
Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense, you know, they are who they are, and
Speaker 1: they have the rankings they have for a reason. But
Speaker 1: the Packers had their chance. The positive thing and again
Speaker 1: trying to pull silver lining from this was the Packers
Speaker 1: locker room afterwards. As much as guys were disappointed about
Speaker 1: the outcome, I didn't really see anybody that was demoralized.
Speaker 1: I mean, Joyr Alexander was kind of almost laughing off
Speaker 1: the fact that he got his interception called back. I mean,
Speaker 1: just the amount of confidence that he has that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll get another one. It's not a big deal. Uh.
Speaker 1: He said, He's been there before and and that's what
Speaker 1: happens on defense. You know. The game, and Tremon Williams,
Speaker 1: as he always does, I think, summed it up best
Speaker 1: better than anybody in saying that Packers are going to
Speaker 1: have games like this down the stretch if they want to,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna go where they think this team can
Speaker 1: go this year. They're gonna have tightly contested matchups with
Speaker 1: really high level opponents. And he believes how things ended
Speaker 1: last week with the comeback against the Bears and then
Speaker 1: how this game down to the wire where there really
Speaker 1: was no you had no room for let up, you know,
Speaker 1: for seventy minutes. He thinks that's something in the long
Speaker 1: run is going to benefit them. Yeah. Well, we mentioned
Speaker 1: the great play on the ball that Alexander made. The
Speaker 1: other the other play that someone gets forgotten that you
Speaker 1: know is a good sign for the Packers going forward
Speaker 1: is the touchdown to Graham that was called back on
Speaker 1: the tailor holding. That was an absolutely perfectly timed back shoulder,
Speaker 1: almost indefensible play from the other side of the ball.
Speaker 1: And uh, that's one of those we haven't seen the
Speaker 1: last of that, No, And I asked Doronimo Allison about
Speaker 1: that in the locker room afterwards, and he said, I mean,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham has been so consistent throughout his career. He's
Speaker 1: coming along. You're seeing him be able to really get
Speaker 1: himself immersed in this offense. And there's gonna be games
Speaker 1: where you know you're gonna be it's gonna be one guy.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be his big game. But the Packers can see,
Speaker 1: they've seen it in practice of their seat in games.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jimmy Graham is gonna be a big part
Speaker 1: of this offense. I think the wider viewing public got
Speaker 1: a taste of that on Sunday afternoon. Yeah. Well, I
Speaker 1: know we normally spend a portion of our Monday show
Speaker 1: talking about the way things look around the lead. Let's
Speaker 1: save that for Tuesday. We have the Bears in the
Speaker 1: Seahawks playing Monday night football matchup in the NFC, so
Speaker 1: we'll we'll carry that over. But the one thing I
Speaker 1: will say is, as frustrated as Packers fans are about
Speaker 1: the one oh and one and not being two and oh,
Speaker 1: there are only two two and oh teams in the
Speaker 1: NFC after two weeks. The Los Angeles Rams not a
Speaker 1: surprise at two and oh, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: a huge surprise at two and oh. But everybody else
Speaker 1: in the NFC, nobody else in the NFC, I should say,
Speaker 1: has two victories after two weeks. So the Packers have
Speaker 1: that going for And I'm gonna get your Ryan Fitzpatrick's
Speaker 1: outfit as a Christmas gift. I want to see you
Speaker 1: bring that to a postgame, said I was. I was
Speaker 1: a year early on the Buccaneers. I was all bullish
Speaker 1: on him in I forgot about him, and now here
Speaker 1: they're lightening it up. Anyway, with that, we'll call it
Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure
Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on
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