WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: No Early Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco, and now your hosts Iaiah stand Back,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Walker and Kyle Yeomans. It is a wonderful Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company

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<v Speaker 1>from the Star in Frisco in the SWBC studios. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the final bye week episode of the podcast as

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<v Speaker 1>we head into a little bit of a break Thursday, Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>no podcast and then of course no game on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll be back here on Monday with the

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<v Speaker 1>normal crew Isaiah Standbackpatrick Nose, Walker and myself. But today

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<v Speaker 1>we've got the mix up crew one more time. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>brought us and Nate and Nton joining us here on

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<v Speaker 1>Talking Cowboys. Gentlemen, how are we doing? I'm doing great,

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<v Speaker 1>doing great, Really enjoyed yesterday. Mom gave a big thumbs

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<v Speaker 1>up after the show. She said, boy, that was really entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, you two were outstanding, and I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little subpart need to pick up my game. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know but I'll try and pick it up this week. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what it's. It's it's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Derek Eagleton said it best yesterday when I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening a little bit of their podcast. He was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about sometimes you get in that bubble where everybody

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<v Speaker 1>tends to have the same opinion, and it's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>be to go out and get another opinion or hear

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<v Speaker 1>another view. And I love doing that. I love working

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys, whether it's the Draft show or back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day when we did pre and postgame shows together.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just nice to hear a different opinion on

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<v Speaker 1>something that you might have been a little dug in on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, you know, but they's right about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle's right about that, you know it kind of it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good way. I think. I think the listeners

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<v Speaker 1>benefit from that. Oh. I got a lot of compliments

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday about the pairing of you two on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and they love Patrick and Isaiah two. And everybody brings

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<v Speaker 1>their own different opinion and different personality to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But that makes up it's fun, just funning this every year.

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<v Speaker 1>And Nate, I mean, you're smiling over there. You must

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<v Speaker 1>have had a good day yesterday too. Well, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out man, neither one of these us

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<v Speaker 1>you or who you are. I don't have drizz, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have dress. He see Patrick because I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's funny. It's funny you say that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like my mom was telling me this was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom is one of my biggest critics, and she

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<v Speaker 1>listens to everything, and she says, when you get people

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<v Speaker 1>together that have lived it, you know, when you get

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<v Speaker 1>people like me on the personnel side, and then Nate

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<v Speaker 1>is a former player, you know, you when you live things,

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<v Speaker 1>you could kind of you know, I'm not always clear

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<v Speaker 1>about how I say it, but when you listen, this

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<v Speaker 1>is why I'm telling you this. Yeah, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure today we're gonna talk about the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to live that. I think there was a

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<v Speaker 1>little disappointment on my end from that whole thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think the experience of the room is always unique,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I think that's what's cool about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Six time Pro Bowl or in three times Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>change by two Super Bowls. Yeah, yeah, you got took

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<v Speaker 1>a champ, a couple from us there in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>We were never good enough to play with that grew

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<v Speaker 1>not to play with Nate, right, No, Nate just wore

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<v Speaker 1>old Gilbert Brown out. Yeah. Man, we have fun. It

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<v Speaker 1>was glory days, man, a lot of fun. It'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll come back soon, man, no doubt about it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was funny the other day when when I said that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were coming on the show because it's mentioned you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny you mentioned the dreads. Both Patrick and Isaiah

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<v Speaker 1>were like, so, I guess you just kicked off the

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<v Speaker 1>guys with the dreads. You bring it in Brian and Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, yeah, that's exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get after the trade deadline a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because I think you said it your best a second ago, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a little bit of disappointment on your end day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of disappointment I think from Cowboys Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no trade made at the deadline anyways. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course they go out and get Jonathan Hankins prior to

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<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline, but as far as yesterday goes, we

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<v Speaker 1>thought maybe a wide receiver, maybe another playmaker, another valued player. No,

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<v Speaker 1>move made. What are your thoughts. Well, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the Miami Dolphins, you're probably pretty excited because

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<v Speaker 1>they went super aggressive on you yesterday. It was good

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<v Speaker 1>to see. I think with them moving the trade deadline back,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of helped things. I think teams

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<v Speaker 1>get to the point the halfway point of the season

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, we're two and six, we're not going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>or man, we need to make a big move. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you believe the reports of Albert Breer

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<v Speaker 1>and others who covered this league so well, that the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys were in on the Brandon cooksting. Brandon Cooks,

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<v Speaker 1>we were starting to learn wasn't at practice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're thinking, well, maybe the the Texans were working

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<v Speaker 1>on something there. It sounds like to me, and reading

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<v Speaker 1>into what Brandon Cooks said afterwards that he felt like

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<v Speaker 1>that he was told that he was going to be traded.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know that's Nick Sirianni and those guys

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<v Speaker 1>down there at you know, next Sarrio, excuse me down

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<v Speaker 1>there in a in a Houston, you know, we're probably

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get this thing done. The word was Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>was in on it. They couldn't agree on the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get guaranteed money. You know, there's all these things

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of happened. And I know Cowboy fans are

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<v Speaker 1>going wherever they go, they're gonna tell us about guaranteed money.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to pay this, They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>pay that. You know. I'd like to have seen him try.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they tried. I just I mean, the the

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<v Speaker 1>the money aspect of it always is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a hang up here because they've got other guys they

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<v Speaker 1>have to sign, you know, I understand rolling over cap

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, and you know, and they let

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<v Speaker 1>over twenty million dollars receiver last last year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with Amari Cooper, and were they interested in adding an

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen million dollars receiver. Well, I don't think that was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there was an initially, yeah, there was some

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<v Speaker 1>thought about that, but you know, until you really sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and visit with people afterwards and share a beer

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<v Speaker 1>with him or whatever, and say, hey, how did that

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<v Speaker 1>thing really roll down? And I'm sure that in the

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<v Speaker 1>coming days will hear this happened, this happened, this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll have a little bit clearer picture but I

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<v Speaker 1>wish they would have been able to do something because

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<v Speaker 1>added Cooks I think could have helped. Yeah, it would

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<v Speaker 1>give you an explosive player on the outside. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe this now is their explosive players get Turpin going.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's maybe that's the explosive player that they need

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<v Speaker 1>to get going. Cook's is arguably one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>underrated wide receivers in the entire league, but traded for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ones. Yeah, he's He's definitely benefited from

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<v Speaker 1>from bouncing around and still kept his his explore n

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<v Speaker 1>But Edward Or yesterday was the first one that I

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<v Speaker 1>had seen the tweet, and he said two sources directly

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<v Speaker 1>involved tell me that the Cowboys and the Texans discuss

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<v Speaker 1>the potential trade involving wide receiver Brandon Cooks until the

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<v Speaker 1>final minutes before the NFL trade deadline. Expired draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>compensation and the eighteen million dollars guaranteed salary for Cooks

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three could not be resolved in time.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were close. They were trying, at least that's

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<v Speaker 1>the report. What would it have been A two, a three,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a probably a two, at least a two, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. See that might be where the

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<v Speaker 1>line was drawn in the team, I step over it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where they let go a second round pick yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't they. Yeah? Yeah, I was talking to people on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter this morning about that. I'm like, well, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to give up to two. I'm glad they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do it. And I'm thinking, you just let a

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<v Speaker 1>two go yesterday and you got a three day. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>catch a ball? Yeah. See see that's that's that's no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's right now. It's a very fair point, Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>coming in slinging fired day. I like it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what you know. You know, I'm sitting over here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just not saying nothing, but saying a lot. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need anymore to see our receivers not play big

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<v Speaker 1>inconsistent because what you said was whatever to read the

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<v Speaker 1>money the pigs. We are staying pat And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you heard me say yesterday, what is my biggest if

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<v Speaker 1>I can have Christmas today? Discipline, because that's that's your

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<v Speaker 1>present today, you hope, Yeah, because that's what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get these guys out there because we believe

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<v Speaker 1>that with Jack at the helm we have guys coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>guys getting better, and this is what we got, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're good enough to get into the second round of

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs with not not in the first. We're good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be in the second round competing for the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC Championship. That's what you're saying. So how tough is

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<v Speaker 1>it on this coaching staff Nate to bring that present

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<v Speaker 1>and put it at the doorstep of every player in

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<v Speaker 1>that locker room because they didn't make a move. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually decreased technically their talent because they let go

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<v Speaker 1>of Tristan Hill makes a roster spot. Sure, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different conversation, But how tough is it for this

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff to say, Okay, we didn't make a move.

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<v Speaker 1>Now go out and let's figure this thing out from

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver standpoint, because I think that's the position

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<v Speaker 1>most people are looking at. Jimmy would have stood up.

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<v Speaker 1>If Jimmy would have let it passed, Jimmy would have

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<v Speaker 1>stood up and told us, fellas I am telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>you are good enough to win at all. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you just said. Yeah, Because if I could have

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<v Speaker 1>found a player that could replace Nate at that left guard,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have gave up to one to two end

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<v Speaker 1>of three because that gives me the best chance to win.

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<v Speaker 1>So he didn't do that. So we are saying we

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna win with you guys. So now he throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure back on the players. Do you think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case. Oh, he's absolutely right, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think what's interesting is though that you did put the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on the players because you didn't get the deal done.

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<v Speaker 1>But if Edward's report, and I don't think I think

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<v Speaker 1>ed does an excellent job. I think Albert Brewer. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's people that cover this team to do excellent work.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Edwards are stolen that out there with

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<v Speaker 1>all those details. To me, they tried, and to me,

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<v Speaker 1>now you maybe created a little doubt. You've said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we tried, but now it's on you because we couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get it done right, you know. And that's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know how that's gonna play, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, adding I think adding, I know from my

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<v Speaker 1>own experience. Again, here's the guy that lived it. We

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<v Speaker 1>got Andre Risen the Super Bowl year, and we really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need Andre Riisen. We had Robert Brooks and Antonio Freeman,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we had Keith Jackson, we had legitimate players, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Dorsey Leab, we had guys. But we felt like if

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<v Speaker 1>we added Andre Riisen, that would put us over the top,

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<v Speaker 1>that would give us the ability to compete against Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>and San Francisco and people like that. And games did

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Riisen played for us? We were eight no wow,

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<v Speaker 1>five five regular season games and then the three playoff games.

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<v Speaker 1>So those you know, sometimes you say, if we could

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<v Speaker 1>just add that one more piece. But now this is

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<v Speaker 1>the battle cry, and Nate's right. The battle cry is

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't add anybody, and we're gonna get some guys back,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Tyrann Smith, James Washington, you know, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bash them. You know, that's that's the battle cry. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to add pieces from within in order to

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<v Speaker 1>make this run. Do you feel like they're good enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make a run with the I do? And you

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<v Speaker 1>know I wanted him to add I wanted him to

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<v Speaker 1>add an impact player. And I think Cooks could have

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<v Speaker 1>been an impact player. I was. I was not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to limit myself to say, oh god, they got to

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<v Speaker 1>have a wide receiver. Now they determined they needed a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. Now, I we haven't heard if any other

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<v Speaker 1>names that they were maybe, but that was the one

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<v Speaker 1>name that we did here. So they determined that, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if we can maybe add this piece, this will be

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I think Jerry Jones has this right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has it right after Sunday's game when

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<v Speaker 1>he looked at his own team and he looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the conference and he said, you know what, we're competing

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<v Speaker 1>against Philadelphia here right now. We're competing against the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>right now. We're not competing against Tom Brad. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>should include San Francisco in this, because I think San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco's legitimate. But Jerry Jones is looking at It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady's not in this thing right now. No, Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers isn't in this thing right now. You know, those

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<v Speaker 1>are those of the roads you've had to travel the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, and he probably feels like he's

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<v Speaker 1>got just as good a chance of getting to the

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, you know, and in battle in either Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City or I mean, the AFC has it tough. You

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<v Speaker 1>have about Baltimore, Kansas City, Buffalo, one of those three

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<v Speaker 1>teams is going to probably emerge out of all that mess,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna be a tough team. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your your path to victory, your path to the super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl likely will go through Philadelphia, you know, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a chance to play them again end of

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<v Speaker 1>the year and potentially play them again if you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, find a way to win a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>playoff games and a thing that you gotta you can't lose.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the thing. We're down two to Philly, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not correct? Yeah, well one and a half. Yeah technically yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I'm gonna say down too, but down two yeah, sure, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. And at the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta either they gotta lose two, so that game

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<v Speaker 1>can mean something. But if they stay that one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half all the way through, what does that game

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<v Speaker 1>mean in the end? Yeah, we gotta keep You get

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Yea, was that was a possible player,

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<v Speaker 1>adding a player that you said could have gave us that. See,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know this in my heart, I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen it. If if we were fortunate enough to

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<v Speaker 1>get a wide receiver with the impact that we needed,

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<v Speaker 1>Ceedee Lamb becomes alive again because he becomes our number

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<v Speaker 1>two guy, and he becomes alive again either that or

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<v Speaker 1>one or one, one A and one B because Ceede

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb could be just as talented as Brandon cooked talent

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<v Speaker 1>don't be used that talent don't get it. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have the production performance gets it. So yeah, I see,

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<v Speaker 1>I see him. I know what he can do as

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<v Speaker 1>a want whatever how you want to put it one, Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see what he can do. I think what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, it's it's funny time. I mean, is everything, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. And you're you're a year late on your

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<v Speaker 1>defense being the way it is. And I mean you're

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<v Speaker 1>late because last year you had all these guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>had all these wide receivers, yes, and you had an

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<v Speaker 1>offense that was going up and down. Now, they had

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<v Speaker 1>some struggles, you know, against some good teams, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were one of the top scoring offenses in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top offenses in the league. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you'd had this defense playing on that team,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how that would have been. But yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a you know, you're a You're in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation right now where you know, you're your quarterbacks back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the number one thing that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the last he's gotten better the last two weeks. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I'm hanging my hat on right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that you you kind of you need to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>some more things with the running game, and but defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you'll you know, it's it's it's been nice

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<v Speaker 1>to add a player, but you are who you are

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and that's not bad. See. The thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see cow and broadest is I'm talking different

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<v Speaker 1>than everybody because I don't see us as a super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl contender, not yet. No, I don't. Yeah, I see

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<v Speaker 1>us as a guy that needs to get past the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. Yeah, and that's where we're stuck at. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's well, if you were stuck at. Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't win the division, you're likely going to play the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC South sure, which is going to be a nine

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<v Speaker 1>and eight Tampa team nine eight Atlanta I think your favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you catch Tampa right now, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of how you catch teams during your schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Right you catch Tampa now, you're probably putting them, probably

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<v Speaker 1>putting a beating on them. But anyway, Yeah, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth seed, you're likely going to go play the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC South whoever they're whoever, and I guarantee you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>favored over anybody that you have to go play on

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<v Speaker 1>the road against in the South. Now, let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens in too. And we all know this about the

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<v Speaker 1>divisional round, that's where the upsets happen. Sure, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, number one seed gets knocked out.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you know the Rams went from being the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams went from being a home playoff game, going on

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<v Speaker 1>the road and then getting the NFC championship game at home.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's how that worked. So you gotta you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be nice to find a way to win the

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<v Speaker 1>division so you maybe can get that home game, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe get the championship back to you if

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. I think that's what's frustrating this whole conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about why they didn't make a move yesterday, because it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. You feel good about your guys, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, you're, like Brian was saying, your competition

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<v Speaker 1>through the NFC playoffs right now, isn't Aaron Rodgers and

0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady it's Marcus Mariota, it's Kirk Cousins, it's Jalen Hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's wide open in the NFC. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of Cowboys fans out there are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>why not go for it? Why not go get the

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Cooks and spend a little extra draft capital to

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<v Speaker 1>go get it done. And we don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>offers were yet. That's the problem right now. Once we

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<v Speaker 1>go and see the offers, if it's like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to give up a two, then maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little frustration to me. To me, it's the compensation

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<v Speaker 1>of giving up the two is. I've always said this

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<v Speaker 1>about you kind of got to look at where the

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<v Speaker 1>two is. If you're a playoff team, if Brandon Cooks

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<v Speaker 1>gets you to where say you get Brandon Cooks and

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<v Speaker 1>he helps you get to where you're going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and say you're picking twenty sixth or twenty seventh, that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a second round pick. Because we always talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this on the draft shows. Yeah, we always talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this on the draft show because every year there's

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen to twenty first round grades. Yep, you're giving up

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<v Speaker 1>a second round pick. For the opportunity for Brandon Cooks

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<v Speaker 1>to help you or anybody not just Brandon Cooks, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that gave up a second round pick yesterday. You're giving

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<v Speaker 1>up that opportunity to maybe help your team win more games,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it becomes a later and later pick. The

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<v Speaker 1>compensation shouldn't be the problem. I can understand the money

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<v Speaker 1>being the problem. I can understand them not want to

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<v Speaker 1>take on eighteen million dollars in salary. I can understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>And Houston probably didn't want to eat a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that anyways, because they're trying to rebuild and they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to retool their whole ideal. Yeah, they're not a

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<v Speaker 1>good team. No, not at all. Now. It's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>we keep saying second round picks, just for context. They've

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<v Speaker 1>had some hit some some swing and misses. That's second

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<v Speaker 1>round picks. That's some good ones though, But that's some

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<v Speaker 1>good ones. But they've had some bad ones here. You

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<v Speaker 1>have most recently Sam Williams, then Kelvin Joseph and then

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<v Speaker 1>before that you had Treyvon Diggs and then Tristan Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>So swings and misses on some, you've had a home

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<v Speaker 1>run on one of those, and that's Trayvon Diggs. Sam Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like he's gonna be a good player. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you feel pretty good about it that I

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised about Sam. You know, I was told he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be okay for that game. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard his knee in practice a little bit on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I kind of got the word that now

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<v Speaker 1>everything was fine there, and then he was inactive on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went that kind of got my attention. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something we find out a little something, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit wor But Sam Williams looks fine and Kelvin Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>on special teams, you know, the other day in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the game that we were you know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>all watching, and you know, he gets put in the

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<v Speaker 1>game a couple of plays. First plays fine, second play

0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.440
<v Speaker 1>they give up the touchdown and stuff like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like he was in position, good route, good throw,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, has had a problem not getting the

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<v Speaker 1>ball down. But he's been really really good. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know you don't draft second round guys to play special teams,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least he's going in the right direction of

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<v Speaker 1>learning what it is taking to be a pro. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the biggest thing we're gathering from that. It's seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's notables having fun playing football after really a terrible offseason,

0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 1>notable improvement. You can see that growing and Kelvin Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>is the rock and roll No. I wouldn't even say

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<v Speaker 1>ron troll. No, he's writing an alternative. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yes, he has some really good days

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and he has some really bad days. He's kind of

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that's kind of right around it. Yeah,

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I like Ed Sheering specifically, but I just becially if

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>he coming here. He's pretty good at what he does.

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, are you kidding me? Yeah, he would never

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 1>believe he's a superstar by his appearance. Okay, he's got

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>this long, like ratty orange chair, and I mean it's

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of like a guy. Yeah, it just

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>looks like they do. But he's got a fantastic voice.

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>He can go, he can go, he can go. A

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<v Speaker 1>little bit back here with Nate Newton and Brian brought us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kyle Yeoman's here on Talking Cowboys, presented by Black

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys,

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>And I thought, gentlemen, since the last day I have you,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a full look back to the first half

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>of the season. I want to give some superlatives, some awards.

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess, okay, for this first half of the season,

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I've got five of them. Here. We're gonna start with

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>most Improved Player from the Cowboys roster this season. We're

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna start from your expectations to start the season and

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 1>where they've gotten to this point right now. Most improved

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 1>player for the Dallas Cowboys. Anybody come to mind, Conn mcgovernor.

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, why is that? Because no one has given

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 1>him a chance. We wanted him out as the left guard.

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>He battled, he kept playing. We tried to get him

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<v Speaker 1>out with with the with the big guy seventy one.

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>He's still there. He's more than just a glorified fullback.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>He's he's a C plus player that gives you everything

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>he got. Evidently he studies film well and he's holding

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<v Speaker 1>up and and and I like that type of guy.

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm that type of guy, you know, give it all

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you got, and that's what this kid is doing. That's

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. We I didn't have him starting, but

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>he's starting, and he's done a nice job for the

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. Condom a governor. I like that. I'll tell

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you what, that's a really good one. I'll stay. I'll

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>stay on the offensive line because I never give the

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>right tackle any credit at all. Terrence Steele, I've I've

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 1>been on so many platforms and people probably wondering why

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>on so many platforms. And I have opinions about Terrence Steele,

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>but I'll say this, though I've thrown a lot of

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>dirt on him. I thought he was a liability. I

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>thought he was His playing style was not conducive to

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>how you really wanted to, you know, play, But you

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>can run the ball behind him. Is he perfect and

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>pass protection? No, But he's the liability that I thought

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>he was. I thought he was going to get just overpowered, worked,

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>run run around. He's a he does a great job.

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>If you want to always talk about this. They run

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>sixty five plays, great sixty five plays. He's gonna have

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 1>probably he's probably gonna have sixty two pluses and three minuses. Yes,

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and the three minuses don't always kill you, and that's

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 1>that's a credit to offensive line play. The center's kind

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 1>of the same way too, you know, Tyler Bottish in

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>my mind, But yeah, I really I was super, super

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>super critical of Terrence Steele. And he is not as

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 1>bad of a player as as I deemed him to be.

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>And my expectations of him were zero. That maybe that

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Tyren Smith needed to play left tackle and Tyler Smith

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>needed to play right tackle. We'll see what happens, but

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I think they're they're gonna have to make some decisions.

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's not as cut and dry now as it

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>once was. And that's a credit to the staff on

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the building too and grabbing him.

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Because I remember our initial conversation about Terren Steele. I

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>was watching film on him at Texas Tech right when

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.880
<v Speaker 1>they signed him, and I was awful in the Senior Bowl.

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>It was really he was not good at all. Yeah,

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>And I remember watching this guy and I was hearing

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>all of the noise that this staff in the front

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>office they loved this dude. Yeah, And I just couldn't

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>put my finger on I was like, what is he

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>doing that? And I texted you because I was at

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a loss. I had no idea what he was doing

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>to where they were able to say and point to

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Terren Steele and say I love this guy. And I

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>remember you you kind of talked about his feet, and

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you talked about he's a little top heavy. There was

0:27:58.000 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that you were saying that I

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was seeing on the tape. And then he comes back

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and he's the starter. In twenty twenty, fills In did

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>a great job. He really basically, and then he's just

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>grown and grown since then. Yeah, you know what he is.

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>He deserves a lot of credit because you know, sometimes

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.199
<v Speaker 1>you roll your eyes when they say he's the opposite

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of what Lyle Collins was. If you talk about first in,

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>last out, reliable, coming to work in, work out, you

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>know those things I mean, and coaches sometimes fall in

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>love with those guys. What hurt me was Kyle. Let's

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you. I never even when he was young, rookie whatever,

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>back and forth. Yeah, when you got a guy you

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>have big questions, you put in one place and working.

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I hated that back and forth moving him to the

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>left tackle, right tackle, Yeah that was that was such

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a hindrance and slowing him down. He's still a C

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>pass blocker and a B plus run blocker. He's that guy.

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>He's that guy, but he's willing to work. Yeah, I

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>like it. I think both of your names were fantastic.

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>On defense, you could think about thinking Quentin Bohanna. That's

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of where I was headed there on the defensive side.

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>You talk about a guy who six round pick, not

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>a ton of expectation. He's come in and played well.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't played off the charts, but he's he's been

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a contributor on defense and he's been in that rotation.

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's probably the name I would go with. I

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>like that, and then I also wanted to add it

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Peyton Hindershot in there too. You talk about an undrafted

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>guy who's come in and found the role. I've I

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>did the thing yesterday in wind five three the Fan

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>where I had him grade Simil with what we're doing

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>right now Gray just to ABC or d on players,

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and I put Hindershot and Ferguson together. I always just

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>put him together because yeah, and then like, how would

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you grade Hindershot and and Ferguson together? They kittle? Yeah,

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. They're like, they block really well together,

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>they run routes well, they catch the ball win ass yea, Yeah,

0:29:54.080 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean expectation Hendershot plus Ferguson Eagles kittle. Okay, to

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the point where you like, if you really don't want

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to if you want to move on from Dalton Schultz

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and not pay twelve to thirteen million dollars or you know,

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>if you could get a deal, you now have that option. Yeah,

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you now have that option. Yeah, both of those guys

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>coming in have made an impact and they found a role.

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>What's your biggest surprise this season for the Cowboys team?

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Anybody pop up in that how well Cooper Rush played? Okay,

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I was not. I was like in camp, I'm thinking,

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Will Greer looks like a better player to me, just

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>moving around and throwing the ball, you know. And there

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>were a couple of times in practice where I'm watching

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush, I'm like, throw it, throw it, throw it,

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and some of the stuff. You know,

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>give him credit because my expectations for him was once

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>again zero. I'm thinking, well, maybe Will Greer runs the

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>offense a little bit better with what how you play

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>with the waggles and the boots and the things like that.

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, But Cooper Rush coming in and win in

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>four games. You couldn't have drawn it up any better

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>for the Dallas Colbert As a matter of fact, I'm

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>watching Dallas Stars hockey last night and Daryl Raiser Ray

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the color commentary, says Wedgewood is the the uh uh

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>goalie for the Stars. Now he's filling in, and it's

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>like he goes, think of this guys, Cooper Rush, you know,

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>think of this as you know Cooper Rush, you know,

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and so that's that's kind of where you know, you know,

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that's how great he did for you then because the

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>otter is out and that's your Dak Prescott, that's your yeah,

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>yeah exactly. And then you're bringing in this guy and

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>he sees your Cooper Rush. But Rush, he's turned into

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the broadcast. I'm like thinking, that makes a lot of sense.

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Biggest surprise name, uh coach McCarthy alone with

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback because they became one hand in hand. He

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>had to protect his kid, yeah, you know, and he

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and so he told his office according to don't do

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>this to this kid. Yeah, no, don't hang him out

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to dry. And uh so coach your arth along with

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush, I think they did a magnificent job. I

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>think my name kind of goes along those same routes.

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And and a guy that stepped up to allow Cooper

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Rush to be successful. Noah Brown. That's one of my

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>big ones too, because yeah, he was a Cincinnati game.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>He absolutely did. You could go to the defensive side

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>of the football, maybe throw Doran's armstrong out there, but

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of confidence Mstrong. See I was

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty because noa noah, uh, I think, well, Doword's armstrong.

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And then all said Anthony Brown. Yeah, sure, Anthony Brown

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>is not played to the level that I thought he

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>was gonna play. Let me say this real quick, in

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>a bad way, in a negative way. I just think

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>he's not I thought he would be a lot better. Yeah,

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I give him a pass because look at the guys

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that are eating him up. I mean, you know, maybe

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>last week one, but he's normally facing the number two received. Yeah,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>he's it ain't a lot of great players in this league.

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>He's facing Mike Evans, he's facing Julio Jones. If he no,

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I not a lot and I was. I was over.

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I was over, but he was camp way over hyping

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown. Camp I felt like, I'm like, this guy's

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna get four interceptions, he's gonna lead the team, he's

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna make a lot of tackles, He's gonna knock down

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of balls. Are you pro bowling it? I

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:23.719
<v Speaker 1>pro bowlded, but I pro bowled Uh door. It's Armstrong too,

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and he has always been my guy coming out of chance. Yeah,

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the last coach of staff knew

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>what to do with this kid and didn't allow it,

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>but didn't do it. Yeah, they knew what they knew

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>what they had, but they couldn't get it done. Yes, uh,

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Offensive Player of the Year Nate. Anybody come to come

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to mind there? Zeke and Tony Poler? Who the run

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>game duo? Okay, Zeke and Tony Poler. Look, he's doing

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>one of my things, lose tight end together. Okay, So

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you get Henry Zeke versus Zeke plus Pollard equals Henry. Okay,

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Well I think about it. He's not wrong. Twenty seven

0:33:57.760 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you know that. At a game the other day, I

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>keep using these numbers. Twenty seven carries one hundred and

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>forty two yards, you know, five point two yards in

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>average when you give one back, you know, fifteen carries

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>in the other twelve. It's less wear and tear on

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>if you give one guy twenty seven carries and let

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>him go be. Now, there are people that will argue

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>with you, namely the guys I work with from two

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>to seven on one oh five three, the fan. They'll say, well, yeah, no, no,

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>give Pollard. All the carries get pollared, all the carries

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 1>and so yesterday I went on a rant like, yeah,

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 1>give him thirty three carries, give him thirty carries. That's

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the kind of number Zeke's had. Zeke's had career days

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>where it's thirty three carries, thirty carries, twenty eight carries, Yeah,

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven carries. Tweet, I'm like, yeah, clote him up,

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>let's go, you know, let's go, you know. And I'm

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>really kind of trolling my guys. But that's they must

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>have Pollard in fantasy football. No, no, no, no, it's

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's the eye test. Yeah, it's the eye test. It

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>really really is. It's zest and the bank tests. You

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>say twelve million, it's the oh is he really worked

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>twelve Maybe may if you're not worth to wale, But together,

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this. Did you when you guys

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>started oh and two that one year when Emmett was

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>holding out? Do you think him it was worth every

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>pity they paid him? Oh? Yes, this he was. Okay,

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I just want to make sure that we're on the

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>same page here yet carries. Okay, I've never seen a

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>team start off O and two and everybody kind of

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>looked at you should have, like Jerry get Emmett back

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>in here, Get him back in here. Nobody was speaking

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>missus Jones. Then everybody's looking at miss walk Away. You

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>knew he had old fat Nate baking sound offensive player, Brian,

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>what you think? I think. I think Nate is completely

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>onto something here with the with the running back situation.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean that to me has been I think that's

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>been fabulous that they've been able to And what I've

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>learned though, is if you look at all the top

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>rushing teams in the league, most of them do have

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.439
<v Speaker 1>a running quarterback, but a lot of them have bad

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>offensive lines. Yes, and so what happens is teams that

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>run the ball with a bad offensive line usually can't

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>protect worth a damp. This team kind of figured out

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>how to run the football, learning how to play pass,

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>how to pass block too, is what they've done. So

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I think they've gotten better as they've you know, as

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 1>they've gone along here. But I will I will say

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the running backs, but I also kick a vote to

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.919
<v Speaker 1>the to the offensive line, because I think they've gotten

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>better since week one. I was gonna do Zach Martin,

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that was gonna be my name, Yeah, just because he's

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>he's always been the steady guy. Yeah, on your team,

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. You know that when push comes

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to shove, Zach Martin is gonna be the one shoving.

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>And he's getting better because he was. He had some

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>games where he was he went Zach. Yeah, it's a

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 1>different offensive line around, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>think about it. Yeah, when you got to pull, when

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>you're anchoring, you gotta pull up a shield. It can't

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>be even even Hercules can struggle a little bite. He's

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 1>getting that that anchor off the off the ground. All right, offense,

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, defensive player of the Year. Anybody come to mind,

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be Parsons, right. Yeah. But I mean

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>if you if you think about some of the things

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that they've been able to do, they've survived, Like we

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>all kind of thought that Curse was going to be Curse,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>God bless him. Man. The poor guy comes off the

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>field every third play. If anybody needed a bye week

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>more than Curse, I thank you. I don't know who

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it was, but you know, they had guys step in.

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Donovan Wilson stepped in for Curse. They've had linebackers that

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>have had to step in a little bit and make

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>some place. But yeah, Parsons by far for what he's done.

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Tank Lawrence has actually played pretty well for

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you too, you mean, And when you ask me like

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>who's the best cowboy, who's the best who's the most

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>complete cowboy defensive lineman, it's Tank rushed the passer, get

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>after the run. You know, that's what that's what you want.

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>You love for Armstrong and Fouler and all those guys.

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.479
<v Speaker 1>They were recipients of those two guys and mainly freak

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>out there. They're recipients of that. You know, has been

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 1>damn good too. I mean, I know the run the

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>run support stuff is not his big cup of tea,

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 1>but man, he when he covers, he covers what are

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you laughing at? Name? Games? And the guy was sweeping

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>out of it and he took the running back like

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how he did it. It's like I'm

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna get you down, but I don't want you to

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>touch me. So he kind of like like against Detroit

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Detroit the fourth and one, if you we all watch

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>y'all twenty two, he had a chance to knife in

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.439
<v Speaker 1>there and make the play. They played the run really

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>well against Aunt. The ball went towards Anthony Brown and

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>he was able to get the guy on the ground

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>on the toss sweep and a shame. I mean, you

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>get a great defensive call. The guy I'm talking great

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:10.439
<v Speaker 1>about it kind of goes this decision. Yeah, but you know, man,

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm loving it. I'm loving it, man. You know, I'm

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>all about his D and I get mad when anything

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>don't work. They're way man, you know, so I love

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the whole D like come up with some big plays. Yeah,

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean back to back. I've seen a lot of

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>NFL games in my life. I've never seen two better

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>plays than in Detroit when Parsons made that tackle in

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the goal line and then Tank knife through there and

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.879
<v Speaker 1>knocked the ball loose. I have never seen. I've seen

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of impactful plays, but back to back like that.

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>It changed the way that coach thought, Yeah, I wouldn't

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 1>never stop running. Yeah, but it changed the way coach

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.320
<v Speaker 1>coach like, we threw running, just throw it and he

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:53.280
<v Speaker 1>gave the game away right then that Micah Parsons stopped

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>getting down right at the goal line and able to

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>pull him down from behind the amount of space that

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>he made up there, it's by far my favorite Michael

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Parsons play he's ever had, and he's had a lot

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 1>of them. He's had a lot of great Oh no,

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you watch him. It's every week he makes one of

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>those plays where you're like, going, he can't get there,

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, he got there. And you know the

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:15.320
<v Speaker 1>thing about when you watch the like you watch the

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>end zone copy, he's running past other defenders. Yeah, I

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.800
<v Speaker 1>mean like and guys are hustling, but he's just blowing

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>past everybody on the way. This is the first time

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>that we've had a defensive player in a lot of

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 1>years make plays when they count the most, third down,

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>fourth down, it don't matter. He makes the plays when

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>we need it. That's a superstar. Other guys are just

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>great players. That's a great way to end that segment.

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, I want to do Rookie of

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.400
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<v Speaker 1>out soon? Man? Just go to your no local store

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<v Speaker 1>to a will Walmart supporters like day you said, just

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<v Speaker 1>buy a big old blanket and rapping round. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>Nate collection. Okay, okay. You should see Nate in his

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<v Speaker 1>his extra polo that he brings to wear whenever we're

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 1>in studio watching the game. Did he used to do?

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>He never wore a stress shirt. He never wore a

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>stress shirt in the game because I didn't want to

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>waste food on it. Yeah, that's see, now he's gotten smart.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>He keeps the dress shirt on, but then he brings

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:57.919
<v Speaker 1>a polo and he puts it over the top of it. Yeah,

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 1>so he's got a dress dress shirt on underneath. And

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>would he would leave his tie. He would never, he

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>would He'd have to do his tie. He'd put it

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>on at that yeazz, he had his jacket and his

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>tie right and then he but he wouldn't wear his

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>dress shirt. He would be sitting there just like in

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the polo and then he would change before we'd go on.

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>And here's Lindsay Draper back in the day. She was

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>just immaculate. She would never get food on her she

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>was always so you know, and me and Nate were

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 1>just red beans and rice were like on our slacks

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and good times. Good times. But uh, but yeah, we'll

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>have some fun coming up next week. So before we

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 1>get into our final quick segment, give me thirty seconds

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>or less why somebody who watches Talking Cowboys and listens

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to Talking Cowboys should also check out the break Well,

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what though. The thing about it is

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>there's really good conversation. I think Derek does a great

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>job of getting everybody involved. I think that's a great

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>thing about a host is that, you you know, get

0:44:56.120 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>different opinions involved. And I think Amber Garcia has grown

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>so much. Nick and I have fought a lot on things,

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, and Nick's always you know, Nick could be

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 1>stubborn in a good way. And so yeah, I think

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing about it is varying opinions, some stubbornness,

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then some other fresh ideas I think

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 1>are really really good about the show. It is a

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>great show. So I came back, no doubt. Yeah, and

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a long running show too. It's got a great

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 1>following a lot of people that watch it. Nate, what

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>about Hanging with the Boys. We we quirky man, We

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>off the charts and we give you good information but

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you get what we'll we'll, we'll we'll ver off Man

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I'm that guy at a very off the

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>courteins statistician and he gives us all our stats and

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>updates and Jerry's let me excuse me, Jesse, I is

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that serious guy. I'm gonna stop breaking in on him

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, because you ship away at him, gonna

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 1>be that serious guy. I'm gonna giving him some tape like, hey,

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you supposed to not talk so much and let me

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 1>do the talking. But it ain't gonna work. But we

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>got a good show. We off the charts, we have,

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>but we give you a lot of information, plenty of

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>time to catch up on both of those shows. Throughout

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the bye week. You can listen back to some of

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.839
<v Speaker 1>their old ones and and then whenever Monday comes around,

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 1>listen to the break, listen to Hanging with the Boys,

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 1>and of course stick here on Talking Cowboys as well.

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>But I got one more superlative I want to get to,

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's Rookie of the Year. You got a number

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of names that have made impacts. You talk about Tyler

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Smith and Sam Williams and d Ron Bland who's come

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>in and Blands a hell of a football player. He

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>is Ron Bland with the school at Fresno. He should

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>have been playing at UCLA or USC Yep. You know,

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe some didn't help him that along that way, but

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.879
<v Speaker 1>they missed him out there on that West Coast kids

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a football player. Tyler Smith. Yeah, there was so much

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 1>unknown about I mean, I've seen him at Tulsa. I've

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 1>seen him play left tackle. I was half like thinking, man,

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be fine. Don't worry about him. He's been

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>more than fine to the point where when Tyron Smith

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 1>comes back just to see what they do. Yeah, I

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 1>really am. But Tyler Smith has gone in there and

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>done a great job of playing a very difficult position

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League and not being a liability

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I have a value asset Inne and Tyrone Smith. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a value asset. He could play two or

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<v Speaker 1>three positions and you're gonna move him. Hum. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't get my rookie. Yeah, you're you're keeping them there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not playing them. You've always had that, you always

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<v Speaker 1>liked the consistently. See, he just told you about He

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<v Speaker 1>just told you about Steel. He hated the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they were playing still at left and right, left and right,

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<v Speaker 1>left and right, and just keep him at one spot.

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<v Speaker 1>See your first five guys, you don't play that game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your first six guys, you don't play that game. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you the seventh and eighth guy, they got to

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<v Speaker 1>be due all of us. But the first five you

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<v Speaker 1>don't play that game. But anyway, my rookie of the

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<v Speaker 1>year is that kid that nevill got his chance and

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<v Speaker 1>Bland is his name. Yeah, yeah, that's my rookie of year.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this guy will be star coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>training camp because he was so good. Oh I really did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, and he's gonna prove me right. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>shine at that slot position. He's gonna shine. Man. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what's funny about Bland. I think I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>shown you could play him at slot, yes, but you

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<v Speaker 1>could also play him on the outside. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you could do that with Jordan Lewis. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Jordan Lewis is just kind of a slot He's

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<v Speaker 1>slot guy's it and nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But I think you could play Bland at

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<v Speaker 1>both spots and I think you'd be fine. Well, think

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<v Speaker 1>about it this way. If the Jordan Lewis injury happens

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it did, and that's unfortunate because Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis has been playing well, He's been doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>But if that injury happens, are you thinking of this

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback situation a completely different way? I think I would be,

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<v Speaker 1>because then instead you're talking about moving Anthony Brown inside,

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<v Speaker 1>you're putting Kelvin Joseph on the outside, You're playing Nashan

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<v Speaker 1>right on the outside. You're doing so many different things.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you're just like, Okay, here you go to

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Bland, have fun, get after it, and it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>affected you. I wish I wish Jordan. I wish that

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<v Speaker 1>Kelvin Joseph was durn Bland absolutely those Yeah, I wish

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I wish that. I wish that we'd be talking Kelvin

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph like we're talking about durn Bland right now, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That's That's the thing I'm kind of disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>in the question was when he got drafted, everybody say

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<v Speaker 1>it is he sincere about football, and into this bad

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<v Speaker 1>offseason he was not sincere about football. Yeah, yeah, Kelvin

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph specifically, Yeah, yeah, no doubt expectations for the back

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<v Speaker 1>half of the season. What are you looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>to see in here over these next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the Cowboys return, they'll play the green Bay Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>Got three tough games, Yeah, got three tough games, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the road against Minnesota. Minnesota's one five straight

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<v Speaker 1>at home. But ye see that. I think Minnesota's playing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better. We'll see what they're doing defensively, though,

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<v Speaker 1>but their offense is tough to deal with with the

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<v Speaker 1>running game. Kirk Cousins, though, in those those shine the

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<v Speaker 1>Light games, tends to kind of fall apart a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit when he's on that stage. I think Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>is a wounded, wounded team right now. Yeah, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they get a victory against a Cowboy team coming off

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<v Speaker 1>a bye that's six and two that everybody's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>right now, that could turn their season around. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not just saying that because they used to work for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers. I work for the Packers, guys, a long

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago, probably before a lot of you were

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<v Speaker 1>even born that are listening to me right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, though, I always subscribe to the desperate

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.680
<v Speaker 1>team theory, and Green Bay has They've got a game

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<v Speaker 1>against Detroit this weekend, find a way to win that one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you turn around and beat the Cowboys. Now

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<v Speaker 1>their seasons starting to come back. That's got me a

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:46.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit nervous about them. It's a desperation back against

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the wall sort of feeling desperate team theory. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I say, they Aaron Rodgers. His demeanor is getting

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<v Speaker 1>worse and worse after every loss. And you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>go out loose to Detroit this weekend, then they're done.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Packers might be done right now. But if

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<v Speaker 1>they if they want to get back into this playoff picture,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and get the last spot in the tournament,

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:13.439
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have to start winning some games. That's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a tough game for the Cowboys to gonna lambeau Field. Hey,

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>oh just something about Lamboys sell? No, just in general, two, one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five five road games? Yeah, second half, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna find out. Do you want to play for

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:32.279
<v Speaker 1>your defense? Yeah? Because what you have to take on

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the road, especially against these teams that got good defenses

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:39.399
<v Speaker 1>in good run games, you gotta take on the road

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:42.439
<v Speaker 1>your run game, your special team's got to be tight

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 1>and your defense gotta be right. Yeah, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find out about this team. We're gonna find out who

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<v Speaker 1>really wants to play football because you're on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I still got the Cowboys easily winning by

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<v Speaker 1>one about nine of these games. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:04.919
<v Speaker 1>he's gotta be easily by one, easily by Hey, last

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:06.959
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks he's predicted him to win by three.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean those are blowout numbers. Yeah, bout all right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna do it here for us on Talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you had some fun with us this week. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back on Monday to break it all down for

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<v Speaker 1>you and get you ready for week number ten of

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL season. The Cowboys on the road to take

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<v Speaker 1>on the Green Bay Packers. Brian Nate, it's been absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>last man's been so much fun. Glad to have you

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<v Speaker 1>guys along the ride. Good luck on the break, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good luck. Look on hanging with the boys for Chris Bean,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Newton, Brian brought us some Kyle Yeomans. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you next time with more Talking Cowboys. This has been

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