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Speaker 1: is the final bye week episode of the podcast as
Speaker 1: we head into a little bit of a break Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: no podcast and then of course no game on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back here on Monday with the
Speaker 1: normal crew Isaiah Standbackpatrick Nose, Walker and myself. But today
Speaker 1: we've got the mix up crew one more time. Brian
Speaker 1: brought us and Nate and Nton joining us here on
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Gentlemen, how are we doing? I'm doing great,
Speaker 1: doing great, Really enjoyed yesterday. Mom gave a big thumbs
Speaker 1: up after the show. She said, boy, that was really entertaining.
Speaker 1: She said, you two were outstanding, and I was a
Speaker 1: little subpart need to pick up my game. So I
Speaker 1: don't know but I'll try and pick it up this week. No,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it's. It's it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I think Derek Eagleton said it best yesterday when I
Speaker 1: was listening a little bit of their podcast. He was
Speaker 1: talking about sometimes you get in that bubble where everybody
Speaker 1: tends to have the same opinion, and it's nice to
Speaker 1: be to go out and get another opinion or hear
Speaker 1: another view. And I love doing that. I love working
Speaker 1: with you guys, whether it's the Draft show or back
Speaker 1: in the day when we did pre and postgame shows together.
Speaker 1: But it's just nice to hear a different opinion on
Speaker 1: something that you might have been a little dug in on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, but they's right about that,
Speaker 1: Kyle's right about that, you know it kind of it's
Speaker 1: it's a good way. I think. I think the listeners
Speaker 1: benefit from that. Oh. I got a lot of compliments
Speaker 1: yesterday about the pairing of you two on the show,
Speaker 1: and they love Patrick and Isaiah two. And everybody brings
Speaker 1: their own different opinion and different personality to the show.
Speaker 1: But that makes up it's fun, just funning this every year.
Speaker 1: And Nate, I mean, you're smiling over there. You must
Speaker 1: have had a good day yesterday too. Well, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out man, neither one of these us
Speaker 1: you or who you are. I don't have drizz, you
Speaker 1: don't have dress. He see Patrick because I'm you know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. It's funny you say that. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like my mom was telling me this was funny.
Speaker 1: My mom is one of my biggest critics, and she
Speaker 1: listens to everything, and she says, when you get people
Speaker 1: together that have lived it, you know, when you get
Speaker 1: people like me on the personnel side, and then Nate
Speaker 1: is a former player, you know, you when you live things,
Speaker 1: you could kind of you know, I'm not always clear
Speaker 1: about how I say it, but when you listen, this
Speaker 1: is why I'm telling you this. Yeah, you know, And
Speaker 1: I'm sure today we're gonna talk about the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: I got to live that. I think there was a
Speaker 1: little disappointment on my end from that whole thing, but
Speaker 1: I think the experience of the room is always unique,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's what's cool about it.
Speaker 1: Six time Pro Bowl or in three times Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: change by two Super Bowls. Yeah, yeah, you got took
Speaker 1: a champ, a couple from us there in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: We were never good enough to play with that grew
Speaker 1: not to play with Nate, right, No, Nate just wore
Speaker 1: old Gilbert Brown out. Yeah. Man, we have fun. It
Speaker 1: was glory days, man, a lot of fun. It'll be back.
Speaker 1: They'll come back soon, man, no doubt about it. It
Speaker 1: was funny the other day when when I said that
Speaker 1: you guys were coming on the show because it's mentioned you.
Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned the dreads. Both Patrick and Isaiah
Speaker 1: were like, so, I guess you just kicked off the
Speaker 1: guys with the dreads. You bring it in Brian and Nate,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: So let's get after the trade deadline a little bit
Speaker 1: because I think you said it your best a second ago, Brian.
Speaker 1: Then a little bit of disappointment on your end day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and a little bit of disappointment I think from Cowboys Nation.
Speaker 1: There was no trade made at the deadline anyways. Of
Speaker 1: course they go out and get Jonathan Hankins prior to
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, but as far as yesterday goes, we
Speaker 1: thought maybe a wide receiver, maybe another playmaker, another valued player. No,
Speaker 1: move made. What are your thoughts. Well, if you're a
Speaker 1: fan of the Miami Dolphins, you're probably pretty excited because
Speaker 1: they went super aggressive on you yesterday. It was good
Speaker 1: to see. I think with them moving the trade deadline back,
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of helped things. I think teams
Speaker 1: get to the point the halfway point of the season
Speaker 1: and they're like, we're two and six, we're not going anywhere,
Speaker 1: or man, we need to make a big move. And
Speaker 1: you know, if you believe the reports of Albert Breer
Speaker 1: and others who covered this league so well, that the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys were in on the Brandon cooksting. Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 1: we were starting to learn wasn't at practice, you know,
Speaker 1: so you're thinking, well, maybe the the Texans were working
Speaker 1: on something there. It sounds like to me, and reading
Speaker 1: into what Brandon Cooks said afterwards that he felt like
Speaker 1: that he was told that he was going to be traded.
Speaker 1: And so you know that's Nick Sirianni and those guys
Speaker 1: down there at you know, next Sarrio, excuse me down
Speaker 1: there in a in a Houston, you know, we're probably
Speaker 1: trying to get this thing done. The word was Dallas
Speaker 1: was in on it. They couldn't agree on the you know,
Speaker 1: you get guaranteed money. You know, there's all these things
Speaker 1: that kind of happened. And I know Cowboy fans are
Speaker 1: going wherever they go, they're gonna tell us about guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: They don't want to pay this, They don't want to
Speaker 1: pay that. You know. I'd like to have seen him try.
Speaker 1: I think they tried. I just I mean, the the
Speaker 1: the money aspect of it always is going to be
Speaker 1: a hang up here because they've got other guys they
Speaker 1: have to sign, you know, I understand rolling over cap
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and you know, and they let
Speaker 1: over twenty million dollars receiver last last year, you know,
Speaker 1: with Amari Cooper, and were they interested in adding an
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars receiver. Well, I don't think that was
Speaker 1: you know, there was an initially, yeah, there was some
Speaker 1: thought about that, but you know, until you really sit
Speaker 1: down and visit with people afterwards and share a beer
Speaker 1: with him or whatever, and say, hey, how did that
Speaker 1: thing really roll down? And I'm sure that in the
Speaker 1: coming days will hear this happened, this happened, this happened,
Speaker 1: and we'll have a little bit clearer picture but I
Speaker 1: wish they would have been able to do something because
Speaker 1: added Cooks I think could have helped. Yeah, it would
Speaker 1: give you an explosive player on the outside. And you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe this now is their explosive players get Turpin going.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe that's the explosive player that they need
Speaker 1: to get going. Cook's is arguably one of the most
Speaker 1: underrated wide receivers in the entire league, but traded for
Speaker 1: a lot of ones. Yeah, he's He's definitely benefited from
Speaker 1: from bouncing around and still kept his his explore n
Speaker 1: But Edward Or yesterday was the first one that I
Speaker 1: had seen the tweet, and he said two sources directly
Speaker 1: involved tell me that the Cowboys and the Texans discuss
Speaker 1: the potential trade involving wide receiver Brandon Cooks until the
Speaker 1: final minutes before the NFL trade deadline. Expired draft pick
Speaker 1: compensation and the eighteen million dollars guaranteed salary for Cooks
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three could not be resolved in time.
Speaker 1: So they were close. They were trying, at least that's
Speaker 1: the report. What would it have been A two, a three,
Speaker 1: probably a probably a two, at least a two, maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit more. See that might be where the
Speaker 1: line was drawn in the team, I step over it.
Speaker 1: This is where they let go a second round pick yesterday,
Speaker 1: didn't they. Yeah? Yeah, I was talking to people on
Speaker 1: Twitter this morning about that. I'm like, well, maybe they
Speaker 1: didn't want to give up to two. I'm glad they
Speaker 1: didn't do it. And I'm thinking, you just let a
Speaker 1: two go yesterday and you got a three day. Can't
Speaker 1: catch a ball? Yeah. See see that's that's that's no,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's right now. It's a very fair point, Nate,
Speaker 1: coming in slinging fired day. I like it. This is
Speaker 1: what you know. You know, I'm sitting over here, you know,
Speaker 1: just not saying nothing, but saying a lot. But I
Speaker 1: don't need anymore to see our receivers not play big
Speaker 1: inconsistent because what you said was whatever to read the
Speaker 1: money the pigs. We are staying pat And that's why
Speaker 1: you heard me say yesterday, what is my biggest if
Speaker 1: I can have Christmas today? Discipline, because that's that's your
Speaker 1: present today, you hope, Yeah, because that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't get these guys out there because we believe
Speaker 1: that with Jack at the helm we have guys coming back,
Speaker 1: guys getting better, and this is what we got, and
Speaker 1: we're good enough to get into the second round of
Speaker 1: the playoffs with not not in the first. We're good
Speaker 1: enough to be in the second round competing for the
Speaker 1: NFC Championship. That's what you're saying. So how tough is
Speaker 1: it on this coaching staff Nate to bring that present
Speaker 1: and put it at the doorstep of every player in
Speaker 1: that locker room because they didn't make a move. Instead,
Speaker 1: they actually decreased technically their talent because they let go
Speaker 1: of Tristan Hill makes a roster spot. Sure, that's a
Speaker 1: whole different conversation, But how tough is it for this
Speaker 1: coaching staff to say, Okay, we didn't make a move.
Speaker 1: Now go out and let's figure this thing out from
Speaker 1: a wide receiver standpoint, because I think that's the position
Speaker 1: most people are looking at. Jimmy would have stood up.
Speaker 1: If Jimmy would have let it passed, Jimmy would have
Speaker 1: stood up and told us, fellas I am telling you,
Speaker 1: you are good enough to win at all. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what you just said. Yeah, Because if I could have
Speaker 1: found a player that could replace Nate at that left guard,
Speaker 1: I would have gave up to one to two end
Speaker 1: of three because that gives me the best chance to win.
Speaker 1: So he didn't do that. So we are saying we
Speaker 1: are gonna win with you guys. So now he throwing
Speaker 1: the pressure back on the players. Do you think that's
Speaker 1: the case. Oh, he's absolutely right, And you know, I
Speaker 1: think what's interesting is though that you did put the
Speaker 1: pressure on the players because you didn't get the deal done.
Speaker 1: But if Edward's report, and I don't think I think
Speaker 1: ed does an excellent job. I think Albert Brewer. I
Speaker 1: think there's people that cover this team to do excellent work.
Speaker 1: I don't think Edwards are stolen that out there with
Speaker 1: all those details. To me, they tried, and to me,
Speaker 1: now you maybe created a little doubt. You've said, Okay,
Speaker 1: we tried, but now it's on you because we couldn't
Speaker 1: get it done right, you know. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: that I don't know how that's gonna play, you know,
Speaker 1: I think, adding I think adding, I know from my
Speaker 1: own experience. Again, here's the guy that lived it. We
Speaker 1: got Andre Risen the Super Bowl year, and we really
Speaker 1: didn't need Andre Riisen. We had Robert Brooks and Antonio Freeman,
Speaker 1: and you know, we had Keith Jackson, we had legitimate players, uh,
Speaker 1: Dorsey Leab, we had guys. But we felt like if
Speaker 1: we added Andre Riisen, that would put us over the top,
Speaker 1: that would give us the ability to compete against Dallas
Speaker 1: and San Francisco and people like that. And games did
Speaker 1: Andre Riisen played for us? We were eight no wow,
Speaker 1: five five regular season games and then the three playoff games.
Speaker 1: So those you know, sometimes you say, if we could
Speaker 1: just add that one more piece. But now this is
Speaker 1: the battle cry, and Nate's right. The battle cry is
Speaker 1: we didn't add anybody, and we're gonna get some guys back,
Speaker 1: whether it's Tyrann Smith, James Washington, you know, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: bash them. You know, that's that's the battle cry. Now
Speaker 1: we're going to add pieces from within in order to
Speaker 1: make this run. Do you feel like they're good enough
Speaker 1: to make a run with the I do? And you
Speaker 1: know I wanted him to add I wanted him to
Speaker 1: add an impact player. And I think Cooks could have
Speaker 1: been an impact player. I was. I was not trying
Speaker 1: to limit myself to say, oh god, they got to
Speaker 1: have a wide receiver. Now they determined they needed a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Now, I we haven't heard if any other
Speaker 1: names that they were maybe, but that was the one
Speaker 1: name that we did here. So they determined that, okay,
Speaker 1: if we can maybe add this piece, this will be
Speaker 1: I think that I think Jerry Jones has this right.
Speaker 1: I think he has it right after Sunday's game when
Speaker 1: he looked at his own team and he looked at
Speaker 1: the conference and he said, you know what, we're competing
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia here right now. We're competing against the Vikings
Speaker 1: right now. We're not competing against Tom Brad. Now, I
Speaker 1: should include San Francisco in this, because I think San
Speaker 1: Francisco's legitimate. But Jerry Jones is looking at It's like
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's not in this thing right now. No, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers isn't in this thing right now. You know, those
Speaker 1: are those of the roads you've had to travel the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, and he probably feels like he's
Speaker 1: got just as good a chance of getting to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, you know, and in battle in either Kansas
Speaker 1: City or I mean, the AFC has it tough. You
Speaker 1: have about Baltimore, Kansas City, Buffalo, one of those three
Speaker 1: teams is going to probably emerge out of all that mess,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be a tough team. But you know,
Speaker 1: your your path to victory, your path to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl likely will go through Philadelphia, you know, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to play them again end of
Speaker 1: the year and potentially play them again if you can,
Speaker 1: you know, find a way to win a couple of
Speaker 1: playoff games and a thing that you gotta you can't lose.
Speaker 1: This is the thing. We're down two to Philly, I'm
Speaker 1: not correct? Yeah, well one and a half. Yeah technically yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'm gonna say down too, but down two yeah, sure, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. And at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: we gotta either they gotta lose two, so that game
Speaker 1: can mean something. But if they stay that one and
Speaker 1: a half all the way through, what does that game
Speaker 1: mean in the end? Yeah, we gotta keep You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yea, was that was a possible player,
Speaker 1: adding a player that you said could have gave us that. See,
Speaker 1: because I know this in my heart, I've seen it.
Speaker 1: We've seen it. If if we were fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: get a wide receiver with the impact that we needed,
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb becomes alive again because he becomes our number
Speaker 1: two guy, and he becomes alive again either that or
Speaker 1: one or one, one A and one B because Ceede
Speaker 1: Lamb could be just as talented as Brandon cooked talent
Speaker 1: don't be used that talent don't get it. You gotta
Speaker 1: have the production performance gets it. So yeah, I see,
Speaker 1: I see him. I know what he can do as
Speaker 1: a want whatever how you want to put it one, Ah,
Speaker 1: I see what he can do. I think what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's it's funny time. I mean, is everything, Yes,
Speaker 1: it is. And you're you're a year late on your
Speaker 1: defense being the way it is. And I mean you're
Speaker 1: late because last year you had all these guys, you
Speaker 1: had all these wide receivers, yes, and you had an
Speaker 1: offense that was going up and down. Now, they had
Speaker 1: some struggles, you know, against some good teams, but they
Speaker 1: were one of the top scoring offenses in the league,
Speaker 1: one of the top offenses in the league. You know,
Speaker 1: And if you'd had this defense playing on that team,
Speaker 1: I wonder how that would have been. But yeah, you're
Speaker 1: kind of a you know, you're a You're in a
Speaker 1: situation right now where you know, you're your quarterbacks back,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the number one thing that you know,
Speaker 1: the last he's gotten better the last two weeks. And
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm hanging my hat on right now,
Speaker 1: that you you kind of you need to figure out
Speaker 1: some more things with the running game, and but defensively,
Speaker 1: you know, you'll you know, it's it's it's been nice
Speaker 1: to add a player, but you are who you are
Speaker 1: right now, and that's not bad. See. The thing that
Speaker 1: I can't see cow and broadest is I'm talking different
Speaker 1: than everybody because I don't see us as a super
Speaker 1: Bowl contender, not yet. No, I don't. Yeah, I see
Speaker 1: us as a guy that needs to get past the
Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, and that's where we're stuck at. That's
Speaker 1: that's well, if you were stuck at. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: don't win the division, you're likely going to play the
Speaker 1: NFC South sure, which is going to be a nine
Speaker 1: and eight Tampa team nine eight Atlanta I think your favorite.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you catch Tampa right now, it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of how you catch teams during your schedule.
Speaker 1: Right you catch Tampa now, you're probably putting them, probably
Speaker 1: putting a beating on them. But anyway, Yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: the fifth seed, you're likely going to go play the
Speaker 1: NFC South whoever they're whoever, and I guarantee you'll be
Speaker 1: favored over anybody that you have to go play on
Speaker 1: the road against in the South. Now, let's see what
Speaker 1: happens in too. And we all know this about the
Speaker 1: divisional round, that's where the upsets happen. Sure, that's where
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, number one seed gets knocked out.
Speaker 1: How did you know the Rams went from being the
Speaker 1: Rams went from being a home playoff game, going on
Speaker 1: the road and then getting the NFC championship game at home.
Speaker 1: You know that's how that worked. So you gotta you know,
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to find a way to win the
Speaker 1: division so you maybe can get that home game, you know,
Speaker 1: and then maybe get the championship back to you if
Speaker 1: you can't. I think that's what's frustrating this whole conversation
Speaker 1: about why they didn't make a move yesterday, because it
Speaker 1: makes sense. You feel good about your guys, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, you're, like Brian was saying, your competition
Speaker 1: through the NFC playoffs right now, isn't Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: Tom Brady it's Marcus Mariota, it's Kirk Cousins, it's Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's wide open in the NFC. So I
Speaker 1: think a lot of Cowboys fans out there are saying,
Speaker 1: why not go for it? Why not go get the
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and spend a little extra draft capital to
Speaker 1: go get it done. And we don't know what the
Speaker 1: offers were yet. That's the problem right now. Once we
Speaker 1: go and see the offers, if it's like, oh, we
Speaker 1: didn't want to give up a two, then maybe there's
Speaker 1: a little frustration to me. To me, it's the compensation
Speaker 1: of giving up the two is. I've always said this
Speaker 1: about you kind of got to look at where the
Speaker 1: two is. If you're a playoff team, if Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: gets you to where say you get Brandon Cooks and
Speaker 1: he helps you get to where you're going to be,
Speaker 1: and say you're picking twenty sixth or twenty seventh, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's like a second round pick. Because we always talk
Speaker 1: about this on the draft shows. Yeah, we always talk
Speaker 1: about this on the draft show because every year there's
Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty first round grades. Yep, you're giving up
Speaker 1: a second round pick. For the opportunity for Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: to help you or anybody not just Brandon Cooks, anybody
Speaker 1: that gave up a second round pick yesterday. You're giving
Speaker 1: up that opportunity to maybe help your team win more games,
Speaker 1: and then it becomes a later and later pick. The
Speaker 1: compensation shouldn't be the problem. I can understand the money
Speaker 1: being the problem. I can understand them not want to
Speaker 1: take on eighteen million dollars in salary. I can understand that.
Speaker 1: And Houston probably didn't want to eat a whole lot
Speaker 1: of that anyways, because they're trying to rebuild and they're
Speaker 1: trying to retool their whole ideal. Yeah, they're not a
Speaker 1: good team. No, not at all. Now. It's funny because
Speaker 1: we keep saying second round picks, just for context. They've
Speaker 1: had some hit some some swing and misses. That's second
Speaker 1: round picks. That's some good ones though, But that's some
Speaker 1: good ones. But they've had some bad ones here. You
Speaker 1: have most recently Sam Williams, then Kelvin Joseph and then
Speaker 1: before that you had Treyvon Diggs and then Tristan Hill.
Speaker 1: So swings and misses on some, you've had a home
Speaker 1: run on one of those, and that's Trayvon Diggs. Sam Williams,
Speaker 1: he looks like he's gonna be a good player. So
Speaker 1: I think you feel pretty good about it that I
Speaker 1: was surprised about Sam. You know, I was told he
Speaker 1: was going to be okay for that game. I know,
Speaker 1: we heard his knee in practice a little bit on Thursday,
Speaker 1: and then I kind of got the word that now
Speaker 1: everything was fine there, and then he was inactive on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and I went that kind of got my attention. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's something we find out a little something, a little
Speaker 1: bit wor But Sam Williams looks fine and Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: on special teams, you know, the other day in the
Speaker 1: in the game that we were you know, we were
Speaker 1: all watching, and you know, he gets put in the
Speaker 1: game a couple of plays. First plays fine, second play
Speaker 1: they give up the touchdown and stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I felt like he was in position, good route, good throw,
Speaker 1: just you know, has had a problem not getting the
Speaker 1: ball down. But he's been really really good. And I
Speaker 1: know you don't draft second round guys to play special teams,
Speaker 1: but at least he's going in the right direction of
Speaker 1: learning what it is taking to be a pro. I
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest thing we're gathering from that. It's seen.
Speaker 1: It's notables having fun playing football after really a terrible offseason,
Speaker 1: notable improvement. You can see that growing and Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: over the last couple of months. Now, let's take our
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Speaker 1: a big edge shearing guy, right, Nate, It's on your iPod?
Speaker 1: Does alternative is? I think what he's too classified as
Speaker 1: is the rock and roll No. I wouldn't even say
Speaker 1: ron troll. No, he's writing an alternative. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yes, he has some really good days
Speaker 1: and he has some really bad days. He's kind of
Speaker 1: one of those guys that's kind of right around it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Ed Sheering specifically, but I just becially if
Speaker 1: he coming here. He's pretty good at what he does.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are you kidding me? Yeah, he would never
Speaker 1: believe he's a superstar by his appearance. Okay, he's got
Speaker 1: this long, like ratty orange chair, and I mean it's
Speaker 1: like it's kind of like a guy. Yeah, it just
Speaker 1: looks like they do. But he's got a fantastic voice.
Speaker 1: He can go, he can go, he can go. A
Speaker 1: little bit back here with Nate Newton and Brian brought us.
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's here on Talking Cowboys, presented by Black
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Speaker 1: And I thought, gentlemen, since the last day I have you,
Speaker 1: let's take a full look back to the first half
Speaker 1: of the season. I want to give some superlatives, some awards.
Speaker 1: I guess, okay, for this first half of the season,
Speaker 1: I've got five of them. Here. We're gonna start with
Speaker 1: most Improved Player from the Cowboys roster this season. We're
Speaker 1: gonna start from your expectations to start the season and
Speaker 1: where they've gotten to this point right now. Most improved
Speaker 1: player for the Dallas Cowboys. Anybody come to mind, Conn mcgovernor.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, why is that? Because no one has given
Speaker 1: him a chance. We wanted him out as the left guard.
Speaker 1: He battled, he kept playing. We tried to get him
Speaker 1: out with with the with the big guy seventy one.
Speaker 1: He's still there. He's more than just a glorified fullback.
Speaker 1: He's he's a C plus player that gives you everything
Speaker 1: he got. Evidently he studies film well and he's holding
Speaker 1: up and and and I like that type of guy.
Speaker 1: I'm that type of guy, you know, give it all
Speaker 1: you got, and that's what this kid is doing. That's
Speaker 1: what he's doing. We I didn't have him starting, but
Speaker 1: he's starting, and he's done a nice job for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Condom a governor. I like that. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, that's a really good one. I'll stay. I'll
Speaker 1: stay on the offensive line because I never give the
Speaker 1: right tackle any credit at all. Terrence Steele, I've I've
Speaker 1: been on so many platforms and people probably wondering why
Speaker 1: on so many platforms. And I have opinions about Terrence Steele,
Speaker 1: but I'll say this, though I've thrown a lot of
Speaker 1: dirt on him. I thought he was a liability. I
Speaker 1: thought he was His playing style was not conducive to
Speaker 1: how you really wanted to, you know, play, But you
Speaker 1: can run the ball behind him. Is he perfect and
Speaker 1: pass protection? No, But he's the liability that I thought
Speaker 1: he was. I thought he was going to get just overpowered, worked,
Speaker 1: run run around. He's a he does a great job.
Speaker 1: If you want to always talk about this. They run
Speaker 1: sixty five plays, great sixty five plays. He's gonna have
Speaker 1: probably he's probably gonna have sixty two pluses and three minuses. Yes,
Speaker 1: and the three minuses don't always kill you, and that's
Speaker 1: that's a credit to offensive line play. The center's kind
Speaker 1: of the same way too, you know, Tyler Bottish in
Speaker 1: my mind, But yeah, I really I was super, super
Speaker 1: super critical of Terrence Steele. And he is not as
Speaker 1: bad of a player as as I deemed him to be.
Speaker 1: And my expectations of him were zero. That maybe that
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith needed to play left tackle and Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: needed to play right tackle. We'll see what happens, but
Speaker 1: I think they're they're gonna have to make some decisions.
Speaker 1: But it's not as cut and dry now as it
Speaker 1: once was. And that's a credit to the staff on
Speaker 1: the other side of the building too and grabbing him.
Speaker 1: Because I remember our initial conversation about Terren Steele. I
Speaker 1: was watching film on him at Texas Tech right when
Speaker 1: they signed him, and I was awful in the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: It was really he was not good at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I remember watching this guy and I was hearing
Speaker 1: all of the noise that this staff in the front
Speaker 1: office they loved this dude. Yeah, And I just couldn't
Speaker 1: put my finger on I was like, what is he
Speaker 1: doing that? And I texted you because I was at
Speaker 1: a loss. I had no idea what he was doing
Speaker 1: to where they were able to say and point to
Speaker 1: Terren Steele and say I love this guy. And I
Speaker 1: remember you you kind of talked about his feet, and
Speaker 1: you talked about he's a little top heavy. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you were saying that I
Speaker 1: was seeing on the tape. And then he comes back
Speaker 1: and he's the starter. In twenty twenty, fills In did
Speaker 1: a great job. He really basically, and then he's just
Speaker 1: grown and grown since then. Yeah, you know what he is.
Speaker 1: He deserves a lot of credit because you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you roll your eyes when they say he's the opposite
Speaker 1: of what Lyle Collins was. If you talk about first in,
Speaker 1: last out, reliable, coming to work in, work out, you
Speaker 1: know those things I mean, and coaches sometimes fall in
Speaker 1: love with those guys. What hurt me was Kyle. Let's
Speaker 1: tell you. I never even when he was young, rookie whatever,
Speaker 1: back and forth. Yeah, when you got a guy you
Speaker 1: have big questions, you put in one place and working.
Speaker 1: I hated that back and forth moving him to the
Speaker 1: left tackle, right tackle, Yeah that was that was such
Speaker 1: a hindrance and slowing him down. He's still a C
Speaker 1: pass blocker and a B plus run blocker. He's that guy.
Speaker 1: He's that guy, but he's willing to work. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like it. I think both of your names were fantastic.
Speaker 1: On defense, you could think about thinking Quentin Bohanna. That's
Speaker 1: kind of where I was headed there on the defensive side.
Speaker 1: You talk about a guy who six round pick, not
Speaker 1: a ton of expectation. He's come in and played well.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played off the charts, but he's he's been
Speaker 1: a contributor on defense and he's been in that rotation.
Speaker 1: So that's probably the name I would go with. I
Speaker 1: like that, and then I also wanted to add it
Speaker 1: Peyton Hindershot in there too. You talk about an undrafted
Speaker 1: guy who's come in and found the role. I've I
Speaker 1: did the thing yesterday in wind five three the Fan
Speaker 1: where I had him grade Simil with what we're doing
Speaker 1: right now Gray just to ABC or d on players,
Speaker 1: and I put Hindershot and Ferguson together. I always just
Speaker 1: put him together because yeah, and then like, how would
Speaker 1: you grade Hindershot and and Ferguson together? They kittle? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. They're like, they block really well together,
Speaker 1: they run routes well, they catch the ball win ass yea, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean expectation Hendershot plus Ferguson Eagles kittle. Okay, to
Speaker 1: the point where you like, if you really don't want
Speaker 1: to if you want to move on from Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: and not pay twelve to thirteen million dollars or you know,
Speaker 1: if you could get a deal, you now have that option. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you now have that option. Yeah, both of those guys
Speaker 1: coming in have made an impact and they found a role.
Speaker 1: What's your biggest surprise this season for the Cowboys team?
Speaker 1: Anybody pop up in that how well Cooper Rush played? Okay,
Speaker 1: I was not. I was like in camp, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: Will Greer looks like a better player to me, just
Speaker 1: moving around and throwing the ball, you know. And there
Speaker 1: were a couple of times in practice where I'm watching
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, I'm like, throw it, throw it, throw it,
Speaker 1: and you know, and some of the stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: give him credit because my expectations for him was once
Speaker 1: again zero. I'm thinking, well, maybe Will Greer runs the
Speaker 1: offense a little bit better with what how you play
Speaker 1: with the waggles and the boots and the things like that.
Speaker 1: You know, But Cooper Rush coming in and win in
Speaker 1: four games. You couldn't have drawn it up any better
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Colbert As a matter of fact, I'm
Speaker 1: watching Dallas Stars hockey last night and Daryl Raiser Ray
Speaker 1: the color commentary, says Wedgewood is the the uh uh
Speaker 1: goalie for the Stars. Now he's filling in, and it's
Speaker 1: like he goes, think of this guys, Cooper Rush, you know,
Speaker 1: think of this as you know Cooper Rush, you know,
Speaker 1: and so that's that's kind of where you know, you know,
Speaker 1: that's how great he did for you then because the
Speaker 1: otter is out and that's your Dak Prescott, that's your yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. And then you're bringing in this guy and
Speaker 1: he sees your Cooper Rush. But Rush, he's turned into
Speaker 1: the broadcast. I'm like thinking, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Biggest surprise name, uh coach McCarthy alone with
Speaker 1: the quarterback because they became one hand in hand. He
Speaker 1: had to protect his kid, yeah, you know, and he
Speaker 1: and so he told his office according to don't do
Speaker 1: this to this kid. Yeah, no, don't hang him out
Speaker 1: to dry. And uh so coach your arth along with
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, I think they did a magnificent job. I
Speaker 1: think my name kind of goes along those same routes.
Speaker 1: And and a guy that stepped up to allow Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush to be successful. Noah Brown. That's one of my
Speaker 1: big ones too, because yeah, he was a Cincinnati game.
Speaker 1: He absolutely did. You could go to the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the football, maybe throw Doran's armstrong out there, but
Speaker 1: I had a lot of confidence Mstrong. See I was
Speaker 1: fifty fifty because noa noah, uh, I think, well, Doword's armstrong.
Speaker 1: And then all said Anthony Brown. Yeah, sure, Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: is not played to the level that I thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna play. Let me say this real quick, in
Speaker 1: a bad way, in a negative way. I just think
Speaker 1: he's not I thought he would be a lot better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I give him a pass because look at the guys
Speaker 1: that are eating him up. I mean, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: last week one, but he's normally facing the number two received. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's it ain't a lot of great players in this league.
Speaker 1: He's facing Mike Evans, he's facing Julio Jones. If he no,
Speaker 1: I not a lot and I was. I was over.
Speaker 1: I was over, but he was camp way over hyping
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. Camp I felt like, I'm like, this guy's
Speaker 1: gonna get four interceptions, he's gonna lead the team, he's
Speaker 1: gonna make a lot of tackles, He's gonna knock down
Speaker 1: a lot of balls. Are you pro bowling it? I
Speaker 1: pro bowlded, but I pro bowled Uh door. It's Armstrong too,
Speaker 1: and he has always been my guy coming out of chance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think the last coach of staff knew
Speaker 1: what to do with this kid and didn't allow it,
Speaker 1: but didn't do it. Yeah, they knew what they knew
Speaker 1: what they had, but they couldn't get it done. Yes, uh,
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year Nate. Anybody come to come
Speaker 1: to mind there? Zeke and Tony Poler? Who the run
Speaker 1: game duo? Okay, Zeke and Tony Poler. Look, he's doing
Speaker 1: one of my things, lose tight end together. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you get Henry Zeke versus Zeke plus Pollard equals Henry. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well I think about it. He's not wrong. Twenty seven
Speaker 1: you know that. At a game the other day, I
Speaker 1: keep using these numbers. Twenty seven carries one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty two yards, you know, five point two yards in
Speaker 1: average when you give one back, you know, fifteen carries
Speaker 1: in the other twelve. It's less wear and tear on
Speaker 1: if you give one guy twenty seven carries and let
Speaker 1: him go be. Now, there are people that will argue
Speaker 1: with you, namely the guys I work with from two
Speaker 1: to seven on one oh five three, the fan. They'll say, well, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: give Pollard. All the carries get pollared, all the carries
Speaker 1: and so yesterday I went on a rant like, yeah,
Speaker 1: give him thirty three carries, give him thirty carries. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of number Zeke's had. Zeke's had career days
Speaker 1: where it's thirty three carries, thirty carries, twenty eight carries, Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty seven carries. Tweet, I'm like, yeah, clote him up,
Speaker 1: let's go, you know, let's go, you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: really kind of trolling my guys. But that's they must
Speaker 1: have Pollard in fantasy football. No, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: it's the eye test. Yeah, it's the eye test. It
Speaker 1: really really is. It's zest and the bank tests. You
Speaker 1: say twelve million, it's the oh is he really worked
Speaker 1: twelve Maybe may if you're not worth to wale, But together,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Did you when you guys
Speaker 1: started oh and two that one year when Emmett was
Speaker 1: holding out? Do you think him it was worth every
Speaker 1: pity they paid him? Oh? Yes, this he was. Okay,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that we're on the
Speaker 1: same page here yet carries. Okay, I've never seen a
Speaker 1: team start off O and two and everybody kind of
Speaker 1: looked at you should have, like Jerry get Emmett back
Speaker 1: in here, Get him back in here. Nobody was speaking
Speaker 1: missus Jones. Then everybody's looking at miss walk Away. You
Speaker 1: knew he had old fat Nate baking sound offensive player, Brian,
Speaker 1: what you think? I think. I think Nate is completely
Speaker 1: onto something here with the with the running back situation.
Speaker 1: I mean that to me has been I think that's
Speaker 1: been fabulous that they've been able to And what I've
Speaker 1: learned though, is if you look at all the top
Speaker 1: rushing teams in the league, most of them do have
Speaker 1: a running quarterback, but a lot of them have bad
Speaker 1: offensive lines. Yes, and so what happens is teams that
Speaker 1: run the ball with a bad offensive line usually can't
Speaker 1: protect worth a damp. This team kind of figured out
Speaker 1: how to run the football, learning how to play pass,
Speaker 1: how to pass block too, is what they've done. So
Speaker 1: I think they've gotten better as they've you know, as
Speaker 1: they've gone along here. But I will I will say
Speaker 1: the running backs, but I also kick a vote to
Speaker 1: the to the offensive line, because I think they've gotten
Speaker 1: better since week one. I was gonna do Zach Martin,
Speaker 1: that was gonna be my name, Yeah, just because he's
Speaker 1: he's always been the steady guy. Yeah, on your team,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. You know that when push comes
Speaker 1: to shove, Zach Martin is gonna be the one shoving.
Speaker 1: And he's getting better because he was. He had some
Speaker 1: games where he was he went Zach. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: different offensive line around, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, when you got to pull, when
Speaker 1: you're anchoring, you gotta pull up a shield. It can't
Speaker 1: be even even Hercules can struggle a little bite. He's
Speaker 1: getting that that anchor off the off the ground. All right, offense,
Speaker 1: I mean, defensive player of the Year. Anybody come to mind,
Speaker 1: it's got to be Parsons, right. Yeah. But I mean
Speaker 1: if you if you think about some of the things
Speaker 1: that they've been able to do, they've survived, Like we
Speaker 1: all kind of thought that Curse was going to be Curse,
Speaker 1: God bless him. Man. The poor guy comes off the
Speaker 1: field every third play. If anybody needed a bye week
Speaker 1: more than Curse, I thank you. I don't know who
Speaker 1: it was, but you know, they had guys step in.
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson stepped in for Curse. They've had linebackers that
Speaker 1: have had to step in a little bit and make
Speaker 1: some place. But yeah, Parsons by far for what he's done.
Speaker 1: I think Tank Lawrence has actually played pretty well for
Speaker 1: you too, you mean, And when you ask me like
Speaker 1: who's the best cowboy, who's the best who's the most
Speaker 1: complete cowboy defensive lineman, it's Tank rushed the passer, get
Speaker 1: after the run. You know, that's what that's what you want.
Speaker 1: You love for Armstrong and Fouler and all those guys.
Speaker 1: They were recipients of those two guys and mainly freak
Speaker 1: out there. They're recipients of that. You know, has been
Speaker 1: damn good too. I mean, I know the run the
Speaker 1: run support stuff is not his big cup of tea,
Speaker 1: but man, he when he covers, he covers what are
Speaker 1: you laughing at? Name? Games? And the guy was sweeping
Speaker 1: out of it and he took the running back like
Speaker 1: I don't know how he did it. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get you down, but I don't want you to
Speaker 1: touch me. So he kind of like like against Detroit
Speaker 1: Detroit the fourth and one, if you we all watch
Speaker 1: y'all twenty two, he had a chance to knife in
Speaker 1: there and make the play. They played the run really
Speaker 1: well against Aunt. The ball went towards Anthony Brown and
Speaker 1: he was able to get the guy on the ground
Speaker 1: on the toss sweep and a shame. I mean, you
Speaker 1: get a great defensive call. The guy I'm talking great
Speaker 1: about it kind of goes this decision. Yeah, but you know, man,
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. I'm loving it, man. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: all about his D and I get mad when anything
Speaker 1: don't work. They're way man, you know, so I love
Speaker 1: the whole D like come up with some big plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean back to back. I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: NFL games in my life. I've never seen two better
Speaker 1: plays than in Detroit when Parsons made that tackle in
Speaker 1: the goal line and then Tank knife through there and
Speaker 1: knocked the ball loose. I have never seen. I've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of impactful plays, but back to back like that.
Speaker 1: It changed the way that coach thought, Yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: never stop running. Yeah, but it changed the way coach
Speaker 1: coach like, we threw running, just throw it and he
Speaker 1: gave the game away right then that Micah Parsons stopped
Speaker 1: getting down right at the goal line and able to
Speaker 1: pull him down from behind the amount of space that
Speaker 1: he made up there, it's by far my favorite Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons play he's ever had, and he's had a lot
Speaker 1: of them. He's had a lot of great Oh no,
Speaker 1: you watch him. It's every week he makes one of
Speaker 1: those plays where you're like, going, he can't get there,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he got there. And you know the
Speaker 1: thing about when you watch the like you watch the
Speaker 1: end zone copy, he's running past other defenders. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean like and guys are hustling, but he's just blowing
Speaker 1: past everybody on the way. This is the first time
Speaker 1: that we've had a defensive player in a lot of
Speaker 1: years make plays when they count the most, third down,
Speaker 1: fourth down, it don't matter. He makes the plays when
Speaker 1: we need it. That's a superstar. Other guys are just
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Speaker 1: his extra polo that he brings to wear whenever we're
Speaker 1: in studio watching the game. Did he used to do?
Speaker 1: He never wore a stress shirt. He never wore a
Speaker 1: stress shirt in the game because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: waste food on it. Yeah, that's see, now he's gotten smart.
Speaker 1: He keeps the dress shirt on, but then he brings
Speaker 1: a polo and he puts it over the top of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's got a dress dress shirt on underneath. And
Speaker 1: would he would leave his tie. He would never, he
Speaker 1: would He'd have to do his tie. He'd put it
Speaker 1: on at that yeazz, he had his jacket and his
Speaker 1: tie right and then he but he wouldn't wear his
Speaker 1: dress shirt. He would be sitting there just like in
Speaker 1: the polo and then he would change before we'd go on.
Speaker 1: And here's Lindsay Draper back in the day. She was
Speaker 1: just immaculate. She would never get food on her she
Speaker 1: was always so you know, and me and Nate were
Speaker 1: just red beans and rice were like on our slacks
Speaker 1: and good times. Good times. But uh, but yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: have some fun coming up next week. So before we
Speaker 1: get into our final quick segment, give me thirty seconds
Speaker 1: or less why somebody who watches Talking Cowboys and listens
Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys should also check out the break Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though. The thing about it is
Speaker 1: there's really good conversation. I think Derek does a great
Speaker 1: job of getting everybody involved. I think that's a great
Speaker 1: thing about a host is that, you you know, get
Speaker 1: different opinions involved. And I think Amber Garcia has grown
Speaker 1: so much. Nick and I have fought a lot on things,
Speaker 1: you know, and Nick's always you know, Nick could be
Speaker 1: stubborn in a good way. And so yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing about it is varying opinions, some stubbornness,
Speaker 1: you know, and then some other fresh ideas I think
Speaker 1: are really really good about the show. It is a
Speaker 1: great show. So I came back, no doubt. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's a long running show too. It's got a great
Speaker 1: following a lot of people that watch it. Nate, what
Speaker 1: about Hanging with the Boys. We we quirky man, We
Speaker 1: off the charts and we give you good information but
Speaker 1: you get what we'll we'll, we'll we'll ver off Man
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm that guy at a very off the
Speaker 1: courteins statistician and he gives us all our stats and
Speaker 1: updates and Jerry's let me excuse me, Jesse, I is
Speaker 1: that serious guy. I'm gonna stop breaking in on him
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, because you ship away at him, gonna
Speaker 1: be that serious guy. I'm gonna giving him some tape like, hey,
Speaker 1: you supposed to not talk so much and let me
Speaker 1: do the talking. But it ain't gonna work. But we
Speaker 1: got a good show. We off the charts, we have,
Speaker 1: but we give you a lot of information, plenty of
Speaker 1: time to catch up on both of those shows. Throughout
Speaker 1: the bye week. You can listen back to some of
Speaker 1: their old ones and and then whenever Monday comes around,
Speaker 1: listen to the break, listen to Hanging with the Boys,
Speaker 1: and of course stick here on Talking Cowboys as well.
Speaker 1: But I got one more superlative I want to get to,
Speaker 1: and that's Rookie of the Year. You got a number
Speaker 1: of names that have made impacts. You talk about Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith and Sam Williams and d Ron Bland who's come
Speaker 1: in and Blands a hell of a football player. He
Speaker 1: is Ron Bland with the school at Fresno. He should
Speaker 1: have been playing at UCLA or USC Yep. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe some didn't help him that along that way, but
Speaker 1: they missed him out there on that West Coast kids
Speaker 1: a football player. Tyler Smith. Yeah, there was so much
Speaker 1: unknown about I mean, I've seen him at Tulsa. I've
Speaker 1: seen him play left tackle. I was half like thinking, man,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine. Don't worry about him. He's been
Speaker 1: more than fine to the point where when Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: comes back just to see what they do. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: really am. But Tyler Smith has gone in there and
Speaker 1: done a great job of playing a very difficult position
Speaker 1: in the National Football League and not being a liability
Speaker 1: out there. I have a value asset Inne and Tyrone Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have a value asset. He could play two or
Speaker 1: three positions and you're gonna move him. Hum. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: ain't get my rookie. Yeah, you're you're keeping them there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not playing them. You've always had that, you always
Speaker 1: liked the consistently. See, he just told you about He
Speaker 1: just told you about Steel. He hated the fact that
Speaker 1: they were playing still at left and right, left and right,
Speaker 1: left and right, and just keep him at one spot.
Speaker 1: See your first five guys, you don't play that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your first six guys, you don't play that game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now you the seventh and eighth guy, they got to
Speaker 1: be due all of us. But the first five you
Speaker 1: don't play that game. But anyway, my rookie of the
Speaker 1: year is that kid that nevill got his chance and
Speaker 1: Bland is his name. Yeah, yeah, that's my rookie of year.
Speaker 1: I thought this guy will be star coming out of
Speaker 1: training camp because he was so good. Oh I really did.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and he's gonna prove me right. He's gonna
Speaker 1: shine at that slot position. He's gonna shine. Man. You
Speaker 1: know what's funny about Bland. I think I think he's
Speaker 1: shown you could play him at slot, yes, but you
Speaker 1: could also play him on the outside. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you could do that with Jordan Lewis. I
Speaker 1: think Jordan Lewis is just kind of a slot He's
Speaker 1: slot guy's it and nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. But I think you could play Bland at
Speaker 1: both spots and I think you'd be fine. Well, think
Speaker 1: about it this way. If the Jordan Lewis injury happens
Speaker 1: the way that it did, and that's unfortunate because Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis has been playing well, He's been doing a good job.
Speaker 1: But if that injury happens, are you thinking of this
Speaker 1: cornerback situation a completely different way? I think I would be,
Speaker 1: because then instead you're talking about moving Anthony Brown inside,
Speaker 1: you're putting Kelvin Joseph on the outside, You're playing Nashan
Speaker 1: right on the outside. You're doing so many different things.
Speaker 1: But now you're just like, Okay, here you go to
Speaker 1: Ron Bland, have fun, get after it, and it hasn't
Speaker 1: affected you. I wish I wish Jordan. I wish that
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph was durn Bland absolutely those Yeah, I wish
Speaker 1: I wish that. I wish that we'd be talking Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph like we're talking about durn Bland right now, no doubt.
Speaker 1: You know. That's That's the thing I'm kind of disappointed
Speaker 1: in the question was when he got drafted, everybody say
Speaker 1: it is he sincere about football, and into this bad
Speaker 1: offseason he was not sincere about football. Yeah, yeah, Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph specifically, Yeah, yeah, no doubt expectations for the back
Speaker 1: half of the season. What are you looking forward to
Speaker 1: to see in here over these next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Cowboys return, they'll play the green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: Got three tough games, Yeah, got three tough games, and
Speaker 1: you're on the road against Minnesota. Minnesota's one five straight
Speaker 1: at home. But ye see that. I think Minnesota's playing
Speaker 1: a lot better. We'll see what they're doing defensively, though,
Speaker 1: but their offense is tough to deal with with the
Speaker 1: running game. Kirk Cousins, though, in those those shine the
Speaker 1: Light games, tends to kind of fall apart a little
Speaker 1: bit when he's on that stage. I think Green Bay
Speaker 1: is a wounded, wounded team right now. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: they get a victory against a Cowboy team coming off
Speaker 1: a bye that's six and two that everybody's talking about
Speaker 1: right now, that could turn their season around. And I'm
Speaker 1: not just saying that because they used to work for
Speaker 1: the Packers. I work for the Packers, guys, a long
Speaker 1: long time ago, probably before a lot of you were
Speaker 1: even born that are listening to me right now. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, I always subscribe to the desperate
Speaker 1: team theory, and Green Bay has They've got a game
Speaker 1: against Detroit this weekend, find a way to win that one,
Speaker 1: and then you turn around and beat the Cowboys. Now
Speaker 1: their seasons starting to come back. That's got me a
Speaker 1: little bit nervous about them. It's a desperation back against
Speaker 1: the wall sort of feeling desperate team theory. It's like,
Speaker 1: like I say, they Aaron Rodgers. His demeanor is getting
Speaker 1: worse and worse after every loss. And you know, they
Speaker 1: go out loose to Detroit this weekend, then they're done.
Speaker 1: And the Packers might be done right now. But if
Speaker 1: they if they want to get back into this playoff picture,
Speaker 1: you know, and get the last spot in the tournament,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to start winning some games. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough game for the Cowboys to gonna lambeau Field. Hey,
Speaker 1: oh just something about Lamboys sell? No, just in general, two, one, two, three,
Speaker 1: four or five five road games? Yeah, second half, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out. Do you want to play for
Speaker 1: your defense? Yeah? Because what you have to take on
Speaker 1: the road, especially against these teams that got good defenses
Speaker 1: in good run games, you gotta take on the road
Speaker 1: your run game, your special team's got to be tight
Speaker 1: and your defense gotta be right. Yeah, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: find out about this team. We're gonna find out who
Speaker 1: really wants to play football because you're on the road.
Speaker 1: So but I still got the Cowboys easily winning by
Speaker 1: one about nine of these games. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gotta be easily by one, easily by Hey, last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks he's predicted him to win by three.
Speaker 1: So I mean those are blowout numbers. Yeah, bout all right,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it here for us on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Hope you had some fun with us this week. We'll
Speaker 1: be back on Monday to break it all down for
Speaker 1: you and get you ready for week number ten of
Speaker 1: the NFL season. The Cowboys on the road to take
Speaker 1: on the Green Bay Packers. Brian Nate, it's been absolutely
Speaker 1: last man's been so much fun. Glad to have you
Speaker 1: guys along the ride. Good luck on the break, hey,
Speaker 1: good luck. Look on hanging with the boys for Chris Bean,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Brian brought us some Kyle Yeomans. We'll see
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