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Speaker 1: put two games on tonight to annoy Mark. Welcome to
Speaker 1: another edition of Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansens,
Speaker 1: Scott Mark Sessler.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: It's got Greg Rosenthal and yes, two Monday night football
Speaker 1: games a source of annoyance. Sure, but then the games
Speaker 1: unfold and I have to say, and I'm curious your thoughts, Mark,
Speaker 1: that was the most fun I've had watching football this
Speaker 1: year because of the two games, the quality, the uniqueness
Speaker 1: of them, the endings for both the plot lines. This
Speaker 1: probably means we'll have two Monday night football games for
Speaker 1: the rest of time now because the NFL will think
Speaker 1: this can happen every week. But I really had a
Speaker 1: great time watching football tonight, and now we get to
Speaker 1: talk about it, which is cool as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I told, I told Greg before we got
Speaker 3: on that I had a not even a hot take
Speaker 3: just to take about what this evening, What what had
Speaker 3: unraveled in terms of like a red carpet for the
Speaker 3: rest of our lives is. I think this set the
Speaker 3: table for this happening probably eight weeks a year, if
Speaker 3: not every week.
Speaker 4: Because it worked tonight.
Speaker 3: Let's be real, like I mean, I think you watched
Speaker 3: the end of this Giants game, and we'll get into it.
Speaker 3: And at that point, there was about two two plus
Speaker 3: minutes left in the Dolphins game, which seemed out of reach.
Speaker 3: It's like, of course, one of these will kind of
Speaker 3: be sealed up, and then what unfurled from there was
Speaker 3: complete zaniness. It is an NFL schedule makers and NFL
Speaker 3: masterminds dream, and I think the Dolphins game was was
Speaker 3: one of the craziest endings I've witnessed all season.
Speaker 2: I mean, this was this was a bolt of lightning.
Speaker 1: You get.
Speaker 2: You could put two Monday night games on every Monday
Speaker 2: night for the next five seasons, and you might not
Speaker 2: get a Monday night like Tommy Cutlet's going down the
Speaker 2: field after they coughed up a big lead, followed by
Speaker 2: a team gagging away a lead in a manner that
Speaker 2: literally hasn't been done this century at the exact same time.
Speaker 2: So these were two of the most memorable games of
Speaker 2: the season, and they happened to happen on the exact
Speaker 2: same night. I'm with you, There'll be more of these nights,
Speaker 2: but I don't think there'll be a night quite like
Speaker 2: this one because it was just too freaking crazy.
Speaker 1: And you know, I know, working with Zumwalt on the
Speaker 1: drop today. One of the other kind of angles I
Speaker 1: was going to take was that this was a mistake
Speaker 1: made by the AI bot and they just said, all right, well,
Speaker 1: we didn't realize until it's too late. We sent down
Speaker 1: the schedules, so let's just play two games. And did
Speaker 1: anyone else find it odd and maybe borderline disturbing that
Speaker 1: at halftime of these games it was the same score,
Speaker 1: the same general game script, the same vibe with a
Speaker 1: underdog leading a favorite. It was almost like the simulation
Speaker 1: was exposed Truman. Truman's shows a style that changed in
Speaker 1: the second half, so that was also comforting to me.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I mean, you know we have we do
Speaker 3: text with Zumwalt a little bit during these affairs when
Speaker 3: they're these Island games, and you know, naturally he was
Speaker 3: going nuts over Davito.
Speaker 4: And I like it too. I mean, I'm from the
Speaker 4: Tri State area.
Speaker 3: I think it's a cool story, but like there was
Speaker 3: a part of me it's like if all of this, Sorry,
Speaker 3: I am from multiple places, but I lived like like
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I understand the day that you
Speaker 3: grew up in a like this hard hitting, cold town
Speaker 3: where everyone, like you know, has a lung disease, but
Speaker 3: like we actually grew up like about thirty minutes away
Speaker 3: from each other and like the DeVito thing, like I
Speaker 3: knew a billion people just like that, as did you.
Speaker 4: And it's like to me, it was like.
Speaker 3: Is this this is so surreal at the end of
Speaker 3: the season that it feels like a like someone's coming
Speaker 3: and scripted large chunks of what we experienced with the NFL,
Speaker 3: and both of these things were happening tonight at once.
Speaker 4: Because Will Levis also feels like he.
Speaker 3: Was pulled out of nineteen eighty eight, like WWF Paul Orange.
Speaker 3: So I am I am kind of just like floating
Speaker 3: and wondering what's happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so why don't we dive into it? And I
Speaker 1: find myself like actually feeling as someone who grew up
Speaker 1: in the same area as Tommy Cutlet's I almost feel
Speaker 1: like I'm missing out. And not only I felt like
Speaker 1: this my whole life, to be honest with you, Like
Speaker 1: growing up in a town that everyone was a Giants fan,
Speaker 1: I always felt like I was missing out, And once again,
Speaker 1: it just feels like, it's just fun to be a
Speaker 1: Giants fan, even when there are dark times, they just
Speaker 1: you mix in these like moments and they're having one
Speaker 1: right now with to Vito and having to kind of
Speaker 1: download the whole Tommy DeVito situation to my wife on
Speaker 1: the couch today, and then my kids roll over and
Speaker 1: they get invested in the game like it was. It
Speaker 1: was so much fun. But we got to start. We
Speaker 1: got to start with the game that I had because
Speaker 1: I was kind of distracted because my whole family was
Speaker 1: so into this the Vito situation. That game is twenty
Speaker 1: seven thirteen. Of course, Dolphins and Titans. It's twenty seven
Speaker 1: to thirteen with less than five minutes to play. After
Speaker 1: two monumental gaffes turnovers by the Titans turned a tight
Speaker 1: game into one that Miami was kind of coasting to
Speaker 1: a win, and then things got super weird. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the final play of note here. So he did
Speaker 1: not get out of bounds apparently, and there's the.
Speaker 4: Difference, right, didn't get out of bounds.
Speaker 1: The Titans were getting.
Speaker 5: Out of bounds on a regular basis in their situation,
Speaker 5: and they had the.
Speaker 6: Ball two yards here to keep the dream him alive
Speaker 6: here to in.
Speaker 7: Traffic, he'll be broughted out. At Tennessee. He's going to
Speaker 7: secure an incredible, improbable come back victory and win for
Speaker 7: the road on the first time this year.
Speaker 1: My goodness to a taken down was that Howld Landry
Speaker 1: with the sec Yes, that was the nail and the
Speaker 1: coffin for the Dolphins, who were four minutes and thirty
Speaker 1: four seconds away with a two score lead from taking
Speaker 1: over the top seed in the AFC with four games
Speaker 1: to go. Instead, they watch it all fall apart as
Speaker 1: Tennessee goes touchdown two point conversion, three and out touchdown
Speaker 1: pat Dolphins drive stalls, final score twenty eight to twenty
Speaker 1: seven and one of the more probable comebacks in the
Speaker 1: history of Monday Night football. Greg, we could talk about
Speaker 1: either team here, because the Dolphins obviously are the team
Speaker 1: that are still nine to four and in great playoff
Speaker 1: position and still heavy favorites to win their division, so
Speaker 1: their season is not over here. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: for Miami, it's like, you really want to see how
Speaker 1: the Dolphins react, what kind of stomach they have, how
Speaker 1: they move forward after a game that sucked a lot
Speaker 1: out of their sales I.
Speaker 2: Mean, it is unconscionable, like there is no precedent at
Speaker 2: We got all the researchers out there trying to figure
Speaker 2: it out, but it's believed this is the biggest lead
Speaker 2: anyone's given up in that short of time to lose
Speaker 2: in regulation. You see all these stats out It had
Speaker 2: been seven hundred and sixty seven straight games with a
Speaker 2: fourteen point lead three minutes to go the team wins.
Speaker 2: But most of those when you have the fourteen minutes
Speaker 2: you win in overtime. People are going back. The closest
Speaker 2: they can find is a seventies game with the Steelers
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins, and even that took a little longer
Speaker 2: during this comeback, and it happened because a Levis's huevos
Speaker 2: like the plays he made. I know he didn't have
Speaker 2: a good night overall. But there's a crazy play that
Speaker 2: Taji Spears makes, who is part of a very similar
Speaker 2: comeback for two lane against USC in the final five
Speaker 2: minutes of a huge bowl game that was insane. Then
Speaker 2: there was the best throw he had of the night
Speaker 2: to Westbrook, Akina. The two point conversion might change how
Speaker 2: coaches look at two point conversions forever more they already were,
Speaker 2: but Mike Rabel passed the down by eight, going for
Speaker 2: two point conversion two, which a lot of people all
Speaker 2: season longer like why are they doing this? I don't
Speaker 2: understand why they're doing this. Them getting on the plane
Speaker 2: with a victory is why they did it. They hit
Speaker 2: the two so that they could win in regulation. After
Speaker 2: the Dolphins messed up two offensive positions, they tried to
Speaker 2: run it three times, they dropped back to pass on
Speaker 2: their third down. It ended up being a three and
Speaker 2: out after Tua made a bad decision to scramble and
Speaker 2: then right back down the fields to de hop Tuo conco.
Speaker 2: The defense just felt as much as Tua looked frazzled
Speaker 2: and blew that ending sequence. And we can talk about
Speaker 2: how the Dolphins blew it, the fact that their defense
Speaker 2: had been so good all night and then just watched
Speaker 2: Levis and Hopkins go hero ball in Westbrook, Aquina and Spears.
Speaker 2: It was an amazing defensive collapse from a defense that
Speaker 2: had been playing so well over the last two months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I go back to when, like the DeAndre
Speaker 3: Hopkins decided to go to the Titans, and I know
Speaker 3: he didn't have a billion offers, but it was like
Speaker 3: that feels like an fit. This team feels slightly out
Speaker 3: of it. They don't have a lot going on on offense.
Speaker 3: He dominated tonight. They don't win that game without DeAndre
Speaker 3: Hopkins looking like the Hopkins from years ago. Tajy Spears
Speaker 3: was incredible. The Dolphins defense, which has been you know,
Speaker 3: even without Jalen Phillips, like a total positive in the
Speaker 3: last the last couple of weeks and a reason that
Speaker 3: you believe in them, completely collapse and I part of
Speaker 3: me wonders, like the players just from a human angle,
Speaker 3: think when they're up, by the way they're up historically,
Speaker 3: Greg to your point that no one comes back in
Speaker 3: that situation, did they kind of just collapse and were
Speaker 3: they taken out of the game a little bit? I mean,
Speaker 3: I also I want to, you know, from a Dolphins
Speaker 3: angle real quick, like Tua had plenty of time and
Speaker 3: was put into a situation that if you're a you know,
Speaker 3: a to a believer, you want to see that happen
Speaker 3: for that argument, and if you're too a doubter, you
Speaker 3: want to see what happens for your side of that.
Speaker 3: I think the loss of Connor Williams early in the
Speaker 3: game mattered a lot in this They didn't have toront Armstead.
Speaker 3: We know what happens to Miami's offense when they I
Speaker 3: don't have Toronto Armstead and Tyreek Hill was not present
Speaker 3: for large chunks of the game and not present at
Speaker 3: the end there, and it's like you take a few
Speaker 3: pieces away from the Dolphins and they look completely different.
Speaker 3: And this was a Titans defense that took them down
Speaker 3: at the end without Jeffrey Simmons. I mean, it was
Speaker 3: kind of just like an insane collection of events all
Speaker 3: at once in some of the personnel situations on both
Speaker 3: sides don't make a lot of sense for how that happened.
Speaker 3: And it was kind of like a classic Mike Rabel
Speaker 3: win when you didn't expect what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tyreek Hill suffers the ankle injury early, look
Speaker 1: really bad. Another hip drop tackle and they're gonna, obviously,
Speaker 1: I think, change the rules to protect these guys because
Speaker 1: it's so gnarly every time it happens. And he's out
Speaker 1: of the game for the rest of the half. He
Speaker 1: shows up in the third quarter and just like hits
Speaker 1: the ground running again, like you know, looking like full
Speaker 1: cheetah with some big chunk plays, but he's kind of
Speaker 1: in and out of the lineup, including at the beginning
Speaker 1: of that final drive, and it's it's with two, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that that final drive. You know, that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of money time. You got to find a way
Speaker 1: at home to stop the bleeding, to kind of pick
Speaker 1: up your team, and they just didn't seem to have
Speaker 1: it together. It was almost they were playing a little
Speaker 1: bit like a team that was shell shocked by what
Speaker 1: happened there. And I know Bradley Chubb said after the game,
Speaker 1: according to our own Cameron Wolf, that you know, we
Speaker 1: probably let our foot off the gas a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then when it was time to pick it back up,
Speaker 1: I think there was like a general sense of panic
Speaker 1: and you could even even in the building. You could
Speaker 1: feel it. At hard Rock Stadium, there's just this like, wait,
Speaker 1: what just happened? Just going over it again. So, like
Speaker 1: I said, with four thirty four, there's a touch back,
Speaker 1: it's twenty seven thirteen. Tennessee then goes nine plays seventy
Speaker 1: five yards, ending with a Levis to de Hop touchdown connection.
Speaker 1: They get the two point conversion, as Greg said, and
Speaker 1: that was an expert drive that you know, they got
Speaker 1: out of bounds. They it was just clinical. So Miami
Speaker 1: takes over, but there's still there's still up six with
Speaker 1: two forty to play, and it's just like, get a couple,
Speaker 1: get a.
Speaker 2: Couple four to go that that touchdown, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just get a couple first downs and it's over. Uh.
Speaker 1: And yet they go run a short run gain, short
Speaker 1: run gain. Tennessee burns both timeouts and then to a scrambles.
Speaker 1: They're short of the sticks again, but Eisenberg gets caught.
Speaker 1: Eichenberg gets called for a holding, which is critical because
Speaker 1: it allows the clock to stop. Tennessee gets to keep
Speaker 1: their final time out in their pocket. And then there's
Speaker 1: the punt. So when Tennessee takes over and they go
Speaker 1: sixty four yards and four plays another d hop catch
Speaker 1: was the big play, they have two minutes and fourteen
Speaker 1: to play. So that's the craziest thing greg about all
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 2: They left much time.
Speaker 1: They left so much time, and we hear all these
Speaker 1: stats that we're hearing like, uh that this is the
Speaker 1: one of the greatest comebacks ever, Like they got the
Speaker 1: ball back in good position with good time, and then
Speaker 1: they they took advantage of it. It wasn't even like a
Speaker 1: scramble to score that go ahead touchdown. It went Everything
Speaker 1: went their way.
Speaker 2: And there wasn't anything other than there was a spears
Speaker 2: bobble that he turned into a nice game to start
Speaker 2: the first drive. There wasn't anything fluky or weird. There
Speaker 2: were just incredibly ballsy throws by Levis. I mean the
Speaker 2: touchdown throw. His composure to sort of open up the
Speaker 2: passing lane that he ends up finding Hopkins with was awesome.
Speaker 2: The throw before that was just beautiful. And he had
Speaker 2: an insane night where I can't remember a quarterback taking
Speaker 2: that many big hits early in the game. There was
Speaker 2: one after he had already taken a massive hit and
Speaker 2: they were checking his shoulder out on the sideline where
Speaker 2: he was running it on. I think it was a
Speaker 2: first and ten at like the twelve, and he's got
Speaker 2: a big runway and he's got three defenders in front
Speaker 2: of us him and he does a little hop like
Speaker 2: he's kind of looking at the guys like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get myself momentum here to try to run you over
Speaker 2: on the goal line. And it didn't work. He just
Speaker 2: got blasted and he got knocked down at the two
Speaker 2: and this guy just plays with an incredible aggression. Some
Speaker 2: poor guy got chest bumped out of his out of
Speaker 2: his shoes on the sideline some stafford for the Titans. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Tua absolutely came up small in that final drive. That
Speaker 2: the taking that sack on that final play and the
Speaker 2: quick throw. I know that's where the play call was
Speaker 2: probably going to go over to h Chan who kind
Speaker 2: of saved the play, but not really before Like I
Speaker 2: just didn't. He didn't seem like a quarterback who felt
Speaker 2: calm and knew what he was going to do in
Speaker 2: this situation.
Speaker 1: Here's Tua on how things played out in the end.
Speaker 5: We got to do a better job finishing the game
Speaker 5: with the time that we had while we had the ball,
Speaker 5: not allowing the opposing team's offense to get that opportunity
Speaker 5: to go down and potentially score. It's a team sport,
Speaker 5: can't blame one side, but I would say, I'm an
Speaker 5: offensive standpoint, there's things that we could have done a
Speaker 5: lot better to not have gone through what we've gone
Speaker 5: through tonight.
Speaker 3: What a what a couple of days for the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 3: because we've seen the Chiefs go down the Jaguars go down,
Speaker 3: the Dolphins go down. They now hold a one game
Speaker 3: lead in the AFC. They look like they should too.
Speaker 3: I some of these losses, I can think of a
Speaker 3: couple in the past couple of weeks where it's like, oh, oh,
Speaker 3: this is what the Dolphins playoff loss will look like
Speaker 3: to me. And I felt that way with a couple
Speaker 3: of these Lions defeats. It's like, oh, this is how
Speaker 3: they'll go down in January. It's like there's gonna be
Speaker 3: this moment where we're left talking about a Dolphins team
Speaker 3: that you know in the final moments, like this is
Speaker 3: what they were in, this is how they were incomplete,
Speaker 3: and like, to me, it's like if they if they're
Speaker 3: missing a few people, they're just not the same team.
Speaker 3: And I think Mike McDaniel is an incredible coach and
Speaker 3: has done so much well out of the gate, but
Speaker 3: this was a total collapse and a lot of it
Speaker 3: to me felt kind of neck up. Like we both
Speaker 3: we've also talked about it, like they just seem shell shot,
Speaker 3: they seem lost, they seem to not understand what was
Speaker 3: happening in the final couple of minutes against the team
Speaker 3: that came in with four wins.
Speaker 2: Right, Dan, I think we shouldn't lose for people that
Speaker 2: didn't listen what the first three quarters of this game
Speaker 2: were like, which was the worst offensive game in the
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel era. So I think that's the combination of
Speaker 2: why we're being so hard on them. They didn't have
Speaker 2: a touchdown through three quarters offensively, they had a defensive touchdown,
Speaker 2: and they kept settling for field goals because they refused
Speaker 2: to run the ball at the goal line. It took
Speaker 2: three turnovers, two inside the ten. Yet these points where
Speaker 2: they only got punt return you know, fumbles to get
Speaker 2: these points because Tua was making a lot of bad decisions.
Speaker 2: He fell on one red zone play, he fumbled another
Speaker 2: with a bad snap, which wasn't all him, but it
Speaker 2: was a little on him, like it was just ugly.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said it first, Mark, because you know,
Speaker 1: I've tried to kind of hold my tongue a little
Speaker 1: bit on the Dolphins because I just don't I don't
Speaker 1: believe in them. I don't buy into him. I haven't
Speaker 1: felt that way about them all I felt that way
Speaker 1: about them all year, and and they get hot and
Speaker 1: go nuclear and go through the AFC in January. It's
Speaker 1: certainly possible because listen, you've mentioned the Ravens in a
Speaker 1: great day this was for the Ravens and it was.
Speaker 1: But I'm watching that we did the game rewatch on
Speaker 1: a NFL Plus, which you could check out now the
Speaker 1: Ravens dramatic win over the Rams. I'm not overly like
Speaker 1: impressed by the Ravens either. I mean, this isn't that.
Speaker 2: Feel like two good teams and two good quarterbacks playing
Speaker 2: well and tonight did not feel like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, that's that's true.
Speaker 6: True.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to take away from the Ravens, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, what who is Like, who's gonna
Speaker 1: who wants this conference and who's the team that's gonna
Speaker 1: step up and get it? Because I'm totally with you, Mark,
Speaker 1: like I've seen enough of kind of meltdowns and failures
Speaker 1: by this Dolphins team in this regular season that's been otherwise,
Speaker 1: you know, great nine and four to tell me that
Speaker 1: we're we're gonna see some issues in January as well,
Speaker 1: like you know, make me eat my words, but it
Speaker 1: just I feel like this team is a pretender.
Speaker 2: Well agree, in the injury situation has been massive for them,
Speaker 2: and that has to be said. At one point, that's
Speaker 2: got injuries.
Speaker 1: No, no, I like everybody.
Speaker 2: I get it. But at one point, for most of tonight,
Speaker 2: they were down to the one offensive lineman, one of
Speaker 2: their starters. So Robert hunts out, It's not just arms said,
Speaker 2: Robert hunts out. Connor Williams is now out maybe long term.
Speaker 2: Armstead is out. Austin Jackson is the only one left
Speaker 2: and he's getting beat and Harold Landry had five QB
Speaker 2: hits in this game. Harold lander has been playing great lately,
Speaker 2: coming off in ACL He did not look like himself
Speaker 2: for the first half of the season, and he dominated
Speaker 2: this game. But it wasn't just that. Is Avin Howard
Speaker 2: was in and out of this game. We talked about
Speaker 2: Tyreek in and out of this game. Javon Holland was
Speaker 2: out of this game injured before it. I mean, they
Speaker 2: I think they were missing five starters coming into it.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like when it rains, it pours, and
Speaker 2: they had a couple things, especially on the offensive line,
Speaker 2: that it is not helping them.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up because that's important. And
Speaker 1: you know, if Tyreek kills one hundred percent. Does this
Speaker 1: game and this way, I don't know if it does.
Speaker 1: But to win the Super Bowl, the teams that win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they are the ones that fight through it.
Speaker 1: This is a long season, it's a hard season. It's
Speaker 1: now it's been a grind for all these teams, and
Speaker 1: the teams that can manage these bumps in the road
Speaker 1: and these injuries. I just need to see more kind
Speaker 1: of mental toughness from the Dolphins. And if it hasn't
Speaker 1: shown up by December eleventh, I'm not sure when it will.
Speaker 1: But they still have time to pull together and they're
Speaker 1: still in first place, and they got a nice lead
Speaker 1: over the Bills. But you want to talk about another
Speaker 1: team that had a great Monday Night. The Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: are saying, hmm, we just got the biggest win of
Speaker 1: our season. The Dolphins just gagged away a Monday night
Speaker 1: game at home. We get that team in Week eighteen,
Speaker 1: and now we just need like a couple more things
Speaker 1: to fall our way and we might steal this division.
Speaker 1: So this is in terms of like losses. This is
Speaker 1: about as bad as it gets in terms of going
Speaker 1: from the number one seed and being in the driver's
Speaker 1: seat to everything being up in the air. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot about the Dolphins in the next
Speaker 1: few weeks.
Speaker 2: I think this one hurts more because obviously because of
Speaker 2: how it ended, but also because it felt like, to me,
Speaker 2: was one of their biggest problems. I know, the defense
Speaker 2: collap but the defense play. You know, they didn't have
Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips, they didn't have who's the other safety that
Speaker 2: was out, you know, holland every I think they've played well,
Speaker 2: but Tua was struggling throughout the game, and that to.
Speaker 1: Me is a very worrying sign. Last word mark.
Speaker 3: If you don't have Tyreek Hill, if anything like that lingers,
Speaker 3: if he's dealing with a you know, if he feels
Speaker 3: like when he's hurt, he's still one hundred percent. He's
Speaker 3: a weird player that way to me. But when he's
Speaker 3: simply not able to be on the field, they're not
Speaker 3: the same team. I mean, we kind of keep saying
Speaker 3: it over and over. They feel like like I'm looking
Speaker 3: at the at the AFC right now, real quick, like
Speaker 3: you've got a Jaguars team that has a banged up quarterback.
Speaker 3: Although we didn't look that way entirely. A fifth place
Speaker 3: Browns team that's played with ford different starters at this point,
Speaker 3: a Steelers team without their starter, a Colts team without
Speaker 3: their starter. It's like the whole AFC is going through this,
Speaker 3: but that doesn't matter. A lot of them are like
Speaker 3: flotsam and jetsamen down below. The Dolphins are sitting there.
Speaker 3: They we're our number one seed for a bit, and if,
Speaker 3: like you take one or two pieces away from them,
Speaker 3: they float away. And that's why I lack a little
Speaker 3: bit of trust in to echo what you said, to
Speaker 3: echo what I said before, to echo what you said.
Speaker 4: And I said, I.
Speaker 1: Love the echo echo of fact. James Bomber, the dude
Speaker 1: love James Palmer here at NFL Media. He notes that
Speaker 1: the broadcast noted teams had lost seven hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: seven straight games when down fourteen in the final three minutes,
Speaker 1: and that ended tonight. The AFC is drunk. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and get into the other one,
Speaker 1: because that one was like just as crazy in different ways.
Speaker 1: Football bea back.
Speaker 6: Officially thirty seven yards, behold the cat, the ram for
Speaker 6: the Giants.
Speaker 1: And tell me DeVito and Brian table one three strength,
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's Joe Buck with the call this is
Speaker 1: a night. Yes again twice in one week. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito goes four for four. I mean, it's crazy
Speaker 1: we're talking up to as an MVP candidate. And then
Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito, this undrafted kid out of don Bosco Prep
Speaker 1: in Northern Jersey, says, this is how you handle end
Speaker 1: of game drive. You go four for four, including a
Speaker 1: thirty two yard pass to Wandel Robinson to set up
Speaker 1: big Bone Randy Bullock thirty seven yard field goals. Time
Speaker 1: expires a toning for a miss earlier in the game,
Speaker 1: and the Giants nip the Packers previously red hot Packers
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty two at the Metal ends. And
Speaker 1: what was like, I said, my whole life, I've been
Speaker 1: jealous of Giants fans because it just seems fun. What
Speaker 1: a scene at MetLife Stadium, what a celebration, and a
Speaker 1: lot of it is like you know how like Creed
Speaker 1: the Bad band has become a meme this year and
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of ironically enjoying Creed and it's everywhere. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what this Tommy DeVito thing is in a way,
Speaker 1: like where everyone's ironically enjoying this guy who's not really
Speaker 1: much of a prospect, but they're winning with him. It's
Speaker 1: three in a row, and you have all the memes
Speaker 1: and the crazy family and the agent that looks like
Speaker 1: he's an extra from the Sopranos. But then which on
Speaker 1: YouTube that is on the right is the agent who
Speaker 1: will probably be fired in less than six weeks. But today, tonight,
Speaker 1: I actually saw Tommy DeVito make big time plays in
Speaker 1: this game. And the stat line doesn't jump out at you, Greg,
Speaker 1: but big time plays that helped the Giants win this game,
Speaker 1: like he was a part of winning the game more
Speaker 1: than he had been previously, and just like a fun,
Speaker 1: silly night and a bad loss for Green Bay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the things I love about backup
Speaker 2: quarterbacks now. They all can run like there is no
Speaker 2: such thing as in a mobile quarterback anymore. They literally
Speaker 2: don't exist. So in a worst case scenario, and Dommy
Speaker 2: DeVito is way better than a worst case scenario for
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, he can put his foot in the
Speaker 2: ground and go. And he came into this game knowing
Speaker 2: I am taking sacks at a higher rate than like
Speaker 2: Sam Howell on his worst day, I am taking sacks
Speaker 2: at a rate that is just absolutely insane, and I'm
Speaker 2: fumbling and all this, and I refuse to take sacks.
Speaker 2: And so when he wasn't seeing the open receiver quickly,
Speaker 2: which happened plenty, he was just kind of putting his
Speaker 2: foot in the ground and going and it led to
Speaker 2: some pretty frustrating offense. Early. You were commentating on our
Speaker 2: text threat They're like, this is not fun to watch.
Speaker 2: But he was picking up seven eight yards. He wasn't
Speaker 2: making a mistake, he wasn't turning the ball over. And
Speaker 2: in the second half, they were finding open receivers and
Speaker 2: Wandel Robinson and Isaiah Hodgens made nice catches that throw
Speaker 2: to Robinson who ran a beautiful route. This is what
Speaker 2: this season needs to be about for the Giants. They're
Speaker 2: finding young players that can be part of their future,
Speaker 2: and DeVito is gonna be part of their future. By
Speaker 2: the way. He might not be their starter next year.
Speaker 2: I don't expect that, but he might make it easier
Speaker 2: to move on from Daniel Jones and have him solid
Speaker 2: as a backup for a long time or whatever it's
Speaker 2: gonna be. And seeing Hodgens like standing over the packers
Speaker 2: defender and kind of flexing, and then the fast cut
Speaker 2: to mister DeVito and the agent giving him kisses on
Speaker 2: the cheek. I mean that felt that was from the scriptwriter.
Speaker 2: That was Straat. I couldn't believe this was happening.
Speaker 3: It's very surreal to watch it kind of at one moment,
Speaker 3: like even in terms of physical bodies like hitting Wandie Robinson.
Speaker 3: At one point it looked like it was like Jeff
Speaker 3: Hostetler throwing it downfield to Phil McConkey, like thirty five
Speaker 3: forty years ago for the Giants. It just was a
Speaker 3: very strange evening. But I will say this, like DeVito
Speaker 3: might his numbers don't look flashy, but here's what he
Speaker 3: Here's what you want him to do is not make
Speaker 3: major mistakes, and he didn't. He was seventeen for twenty one.
Speaker 3: I think two of those incompletions came kind of right away.
Speaker 3: He was money down the stretch either one twenty six
Speaker 3: yard run that showed off his speed. And for me,
Speaker 3: it's an argument for Brian Dable in a season where
Speaker 3: he was losing the argument in a big way, where
Speaker 3: you're wondering what Brian Dabele was about after winning Coach
Speaker 3: of the Year. It's like, this isn't someone you'd think
Speaker 3: someone could coach up and turn around and have a
Speaker 3: game like this and do what he did in the
Speaker 3: final couple of minutes and look the way he did,
Speaker 3: and it's just a completely improbable NFL narrative. It feels
Speaker 3: totally surreal to me, but so enjoyable. And I kind
Speaker 3: of think we're at this point now. Whe're always every
Speaker 3: one of these games where an unlikely quarterback does what
Speaker 3: they do, like you're cutting away to the parents, and
Speaker 3: doesn't that just look like the most parental situation ever
Speaker 3: Fordvito Dan, Like I think you mentioned kind of this
Speaker 3: could have been you in another reality, like you know,
Speaker 3: fifteen twenty years from now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a resemblance between me and Timy DeVito's father,
Speaker 1: a more prominent nose on him. I got the smaller
Speaker 1: like Irish nose. He's got the Italian honker. But like otherwise,
Speaker 1: there's definitely some there's some blood there. He might be
Speaker 1: an uncle. It's certainly within the realm of possibility. You know.
Speaker 1: First of all, de Vido on the touchdown throw to Hodgens,
Speaker 1: he reached sixteen miles per hour on the run, which
Speaker 1: is like a top five speed for a quarterback on
Speaker 1: a completion. This season, the run that you mentioned mark
Speaker 1: down to the goal line, which you might have gotten
Speaker 1: in on that they got the touchdown. Anyway, with Barkley,
Speaker 1: that was really I mean, this guy is not like
Speaker 1: rec league basketball fast, like he's legitimately pro athlete fast.
Speaker 1: And he's also making four hundred and sixteen grand this year,
Speaker 1: which is pretty nice. But Daniel Jones on the injured list,
Speaker 1: is making forty six million this year, so that is
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy, and it's kind of a cruel
Speaker 1: irony for me because we all want to be right
Speaker 1: on the show when we go out on a limb,
Speaker 1: and I said, I don't want to fork the Giants
Speaker 1: when they were one and eight or whatever, because they've
Speaker 1: already been through the worst of it. The schedule softens up.
Speaker 1: I think Dable's a good coach. They have to get
Speaker 1: better if they don't blow that ninety nine percent game
Speaker 1: against the Jets. They are in the they're in the
Speaker 1: playoff mix in the NFC. As crazy as that said
Speaker 1: are now they are they're on the fringes still.
Speaker 2: They're they're literally one game out of the playoffs. I
Speaker 2: mean it, granted it's six teams there, I think are
Speaker 2: five teams at six and seven, but that sort of
Speaker 2: blew my mind when they said that. Going into the game,
Speaker 2: they said, well, if they win this game, that knocks
Speaker 2: the Packers down a six and seven, they're only one
Speaker 2: back of the seven spot.
Speaker 1: Good, I mean good for Dable. Obviously, a great story
Speaker 1: with Tovido, who will never buy you know, eggplant parmesan
Speaker 1: in that town ever again because he's already stamped his
Speaker 1: legend now, just kind of seeing he's playing with house
Speaker 1: money almost already in his career, and you just want
Speaker 1: to see where it goes from here. But what a
Speaker 1: fun scene now the Packer side of it, Mark, like
Speaker 1: we and you, you've been as high on the Packers
Speaker 1: as anyone the last few weeks, as they've as they've risen,
Speaker 1: and with good reason, because they've been playing so well.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to kill them because they are
Speaker 1: they got to win this game. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: like it was a a bit of a weird energy
Speaker 1: that they went into on the road on Monday night,
Speaker 1: and then it felt like there was some magic on
Speaker 1: the air in the air while they didn't play at
Speaker 1: a high level and Love came down in the offense
Speaker 1: in general was discombobulated. This they kind of ran into
Speaker 1: a little bit of a sneaky buzz saw. I don't
Speaker 1: want to I'm not going to put him out to
Speaker 1: pasture off this loss. Now you disagree with me, I'd
Speaker 1: love to hear it bad loss, but I don't. I
Speaker 1: still believe in the Packers. I think it was a
Speaker 1: rough night with a little magic in Northern Jersey.
Speaker 3: I think it was just, you know, these NFL moments,
Speaker 3: there is energy to it. I understand that, you know,
Speaker 3: certain people that Patrick Claibun's the world want to believe
Speaker 3: it's just, you know, robots playing against each other. But
Speaker 3: there is something that happens in these stadiums. And I
Speaker 3: just think about the noise in the Baltimore Stadium in
Speaker 3: the game we just reviewed today and the way it
Speaker 3: felt tonight. There is just something going on right. It's
Speaker 3: like if you're pulled into that world, you're part of it.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I think the Packers have grown up
Speaker 3: so quickly that we forget where they were just three
Speaker 3: or four weeks ago, and where Jordan Love was just
Speaker 3: three or four weeks ago.
Speaker 4: So I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I'm not out on them at all. Tonight happened, But
Speaker 3: you've got the Bucks at home, you go to Carolina
Speaker 3: after that, you go to a Vikings team that feels
Speaker 3: kind of floating away a little bit, and then you
Speaker 3: got the Bears. Those are four manageable games. I think
Speaker 3: you probably got to take care of three of those. Probably,
Speaker 3: But what we've seen from green Bay, I mean, we
Speaker 3: were coming off of Matt Laflor's I think two best
Speaker 3: coach games. Tonight arrowed down on all that, but like
Speaker 3: it's not enough for me to think that the whole
Speaker 3: thing was a mirage. And there's a lot to like
Speaker 3: with Green Bay in a really weak NFC with a
Speaker 3: bunch of pretenders vying for wild cards. So I'm not
Speaker 3: out on them either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a game where like, unlike the Titans
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins looked like two teams kind of just
Speaker 2: blowing it back and forth, the Packers just looked like
Speaker 2: the better team for two and a half quarters of
Speaker 2: this game and just kept making mistakes and just handing
Speaker 2: it to the Giants. You know, with the they had
Speaker 2: three turnovers that there was the interception by Love there
Speaker 2: was let me think he had one interception we had also,
Speaker 2: what was it the two fumbles? They had it like
Speaker 2: a punt return, Like the games were like copying each
Speaker 2: other on some level, but they kept setting the Giants
Speaker 2: up in good spots. Love had the fumble and had
Speaker 2: the interception, and the Giants weren't doing anything with it.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Giants had very little offense for three
Speaker 2: quarters and the Packers would move the ball and then
Speaker 2: just blow open receivers. Love was just missing open receivers,
Speaker 2: and I thought Wink Martindale did a good job just
Speaker 2: setting pressure after pressure after pressure, and it made Love
Speaker 2: overthink it. And he was just like a step late
Speaker 2: almost every throw. And it was a rough really three
Speaker 2: and a half quarters for him, until he got the
Speaker 2: ball back a couple times down eight points and had
Speaker 2: two really good drives. One they ended up setting for
Speaker 2: a field goal, and the next he made his three
Speaker 2: best throws of the night and end up getting a
Speaker 2: go ahead touchdown. And that finished by Love for me,
Speaker 2: helped wipe away a lot of what we saw before,
Speaker 2: because if DeVito didn't come up with heroics, we'd be
Speaker 2: talking about how yeah, it wasn't a great game for Love,
Speaker 2: but that he saved his best stuff for the fourth.
Speaker 1: Courter right, and you know the Giants. It should be
Speaker 1: stated that the Giants kind of had this game nearly
Speaker 1: salted away. They have a first and ten at midfield
Speaker 1: with four minutes to play. Barkley bounces off right tackle
Speaker 1: goes thirty four yards, so they're set up inside the
Speaker 1: red zone first and ten with under four minutes to
Speaker 1: play with a twenty one to sixteen lead. But then
Speaker 1: he stumbles and fumbles the ball, which is an outrageous
Speaker 1: turn of events. He's barely fumbled his whole career. And
Speaker 1: then a great job by Valentine who scoops it up
Speaker 1: and returns it fifty yards to the Giants thirty six
Speaker 1: and then the Packers then march thirty six yards on
Speaker 1: nine plays for the go ahead touchdown, and Love made
Speaker 1: big throws. I actually thought he we've had the touchdown,
Speaker 1: the great play at the pylon. I thought it should
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown before that too. I thought he
Speaker 1: got two feet down the possession of the ball. It's like,
Speaker 1: how do they How's that not a touchdown? But they
Speaker 1: got it anyway, So you saw you saw that and
Speaker 1: missing the two point conversion. Man, The Ravens got the
Speaker 1: two point conversion on Sunday and it saved their butt
Speaker 1: when the Rams went down the field. Here's what happens
Speaker 1: when you miss on that two point conversion, because it
Speaker 1: allowed Randy Bullock to beat them with the field goal
Speaker 1: and when the defense couldn't get the stop. And I
Speaker 1: think I've seen some frustration from Packers fans out in
Speaker 1: the Twitter verse about how Joe Barry and the defense
Speaker 1: played that final drive too soft, letting the Giants kind
Speaker 1: of and I kind of this drives me crazy a lot.
Speaker 1: It happens almost every single week where it almost feels
Speaker 1: like the defenses are more worried about getting the clock
Speaker 1: to go down, and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: blink in that team's inside your territory and it happened
Speaker 1: again here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bizarre. You're so worried about trying to
Speaker 2: keep them in bounce that they give up two straight
Speaker 2: I think it was seven yard plays to start it.
Speaker 2: And you were right about comparing Devido in two of there.
Speaker 2: Because Divito wasn't messing around. He got rid of the
Speaker 2: ball right at the back of his drop with those
Speaker 2: first couple throws and with a minute thirty which they
Speaker 2: had in timeouts, there was no need to hurry. And
Speaker 2: on the fourth play he hits the big one and
Speaker 2: then they sit on it like they they had plenty
Speaker 2: of time. They were inside a forty yard field goal
Speaker 2: with like forty seconds to go, because that's the thing.
Speaker 2: You can happily take those six seven yard games and
Speaker 2: then you just have to pop one pass, and they
Speaker 2: did it. And again, I don't think we should underrate
Speaker 2: how well Wandel Robinson played in this game because the
Speaker 2: routes he was running, he's coming off the torny Aco.
Speaker 2: He finishes with six for seventy nine on seven targets
Speaker 2: and also has a thirty two yard run that set
Speaker 2: up their first score. Like those that first score was
Speaker 2: all schemed up plays by Dable and Robinson. He looks
Speaker 2: like he's a player. Like I'm not saying he's going
Speaker 2: to be a number one receiver, but okay, there's one
Speaker 2: receiver we can have. We think we like Jalen Hyatt. Okay,
Speaker 2: like the Packers, maybe we have two young guys that
Speaker 2: are going to be part of a nice rotation moving forward.
Speaker 3: You do get a de Vito versus Jalen Hurts twice
Speaker 3: between now and the end of the season.
Speaker 4: He also plays the ram.
Speaker 1: I mean the way the Eagles are playing, the prize
Speaker 1: of one or both of those games are competitive, right,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Think the defense, to be fair, it's played a lot better,
Speaker 2: including tonight too, that it's giving them a chance to
Speaker 2: win these games.
Speaker 3: I think they're a classic berserker with a very with
Speaker 3: one of the most interesting quarterback situations of the last
Speaker 3: five years. So I am suddenly plugged into watching the
Speaker 3: New York Giants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we got berserkers all over the place.
Speaker 2: The Titans are a classic berserker. I think that's a
Speaker 2: team that could have another weird win here. Giants are
Speaker 2: a berserker, and the Bears have been playing like a
Speaker 2: berserker too, with like a top five type of defense
Speaker 2: and a dangerous key be Like, there is not much
Speaker 2: separating these playoff teams from the four to five win teams.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no I said to my wife, Divito's agent,
Speaker 1: who looks like he's about twenty three. I even, I said,
Speaker 1: he looks like an extra the Sopranos. That's too kind.
Speaker 1: He could be a great guy. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: bury him, but he looks more like a guy from Entourage.
Speaker 1: And I said, he better get a good night's sleep
Speaker 1: because he's got a lot of work to do tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Like he's that the amount of money to be made
Speaker 1: for Tommy DeVito at this moment of time. I just
Speaker 1: hope that he's got his business affairs with the right individual.
Speaker 1: I have my doubts, but I will apologize if de
Speaker 1: Vito is minted by the end of the calendar year.
Speaker 3: He does look a little bit to me like like
Speaker 3: a cousin of Mad Doug Russo. If you if you take,
Speaker 3: if you know, if you go on your own time,
Speaker 3: go and examine it, Like if a cousin of Mad
Speaker 3: Doug Russo were dressed in all black, you know, a
Speaker 3: gold chain and a black fedora.
Speaker 4: There's some Russo asque, but you know.
Speaker 1: It's like So was younger, and it was Halloween and
Speaker 1: the and the Halloween party theme was a gangster party
Speaker 1: from the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't have his name as like the title
Speaker 2: sponsor owner on a Ford dealership in New Jersey, by
Speaker 2: next Tuesday, the agent's not doing his job.
Speaker 1: You gotta move You gotta move on. You gotta get
Speaker 1: somebody else, because you know what else is gonna happen
Speaker 1: with Tommy. Probably his parents are going to get the
Speaker 1: phone call because they are his legal guardians in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. Still, there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: actual like established agents being like you gotta lose, you
Speaker 1: know e, from entourage. We gotta we gotta be serious
Speaker 1: about this, So that will be a test of loyalty.
Speaker 1: And loyalty is a bit I'll tell you what. I'm
Speaker 1: not Italian, but the Italian Americans that in New York,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, it's all about loyalty. Let's see if he
Speaker 1: is loyal to that guy, Dan.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you one question because I was, I was,
Speaker 3: you know, talking with this about somewhat on our text
Speaker 3: like they kept and I look at I get it.
Speaker 4: It's a very East Coast thing. I can already answer
Speaker 4: my own question a little bit.
Speaker 3: But it's like that the de Vito family, that all
Speaker 3: these people are bringing food over to the house, and
Speaker 3: so in general, like you bring food over to the
Speaker 3: house of someone who's you know, no one's able to
Speaker 3: cook because they've lost a close relative, and like there's
Speaker 3: a lot of grieving, and you don't want to make
Speaker 3: someone have to toil and cook for a bunch of
Speaker 3: you bring food or a baby's just been born. But
Speaker 3: it's like, your son is a successful and one of
Speaker 3: the most successful New York sports stories of the last
Speaker 3: you know, two or three decades. So we all bring
Speaker 3: you food. Is it just because we want to be
Speaker 3: part of it? I mean, it's not because you need
Speaker 3: us to cook for you.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good I think there's probably some
Speaker 1: of that because that it gives the excuse to go
Speaker 1: over to the DeVito house right now. But I also
Speaker 1: know that an Italian culture of food and the sharing
Speaker 1: of food is an expression of love and intimacy, so
Speaker 1: that's probably part of it too. And it's it's it's
Speaker 1: very there's something very warm about it. And I love.
Speaker 2: It, and I know it's a cultural thing. But he's
Speaker 2: going to start he's got to start getting antsy about
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a twenty five year old living at
Speaker 2: home with his parents. I know there's the culture thing.
Speaker 2: It's like that. I don't know, it's a tough it's
Speaker 2: got to be a tough spot. I mean, I remember
Speaker 2: I went back. I know He's in a much different
Speaker 2: place and everything's different. I remember spending that one freshman
Speaker 2: summer after I went away to college back at home,
Speaker 2: living at home, and I was like, oh man, I'm
Speaker 2: never going to do this again. This was a mistake.
Speaker 2: Why did I even come home for this one summer.
Speaker 1: There are two types of people in the world, the
Speaker 1: people that cannot wait to get into their own apartment
Speaker 1: after college and the people that are no like great rush,
Speaker 1: I was actually more in the Davido camp. I was
Speaker 1: out of the house. I think right at my twenty
Speaker 1: fourth birthday. I think we moved into Hoboken, which is
Speaker 1: probably like where Tommy DeVito's dad is from, right around
Speaker 1: twenty four. And I didn't mind living at home. I
Speaker 1: didn't have any money. I mean, like it was that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's the thing with DeVito, Like that's what he's saying,
Speaker 1: is like I live rent free, I get my laundry done,
Speaker 1: I get amazing home cooking. Everyone's nice to me. They
Speaker 1: give me some space that I need. My bed is
Speaker 1: made for me, Like it checks out. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people that are like that too.
Speaker 1: Where it's like college is the demarcation line where I
Speaker 1: don't need to be at home ever again.
Speaker 2: It's a great motivation to make that rent money, but
Speaker 2: more just like you want to be you know, you
Speaker 2: want to feel free, you want to get out. But
Speaker 2: it is working for him and I love it.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It is the most fun, giant story that there has
Speaker 2: ever been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well those two forty six.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fun.
Speaker 2: By the way, it gives me a little bit of insanity,
Speaker 2: which I was in New York for. It's totally different,
Speaker 2: and yet it feels like it's of the same piece of.
Speaker 4: That is a good parallel. Like Dan and I just
Speaker 4: started working in NFL.
Speaker 1: Back then.
Speaker 3: We were writing NFL dot Com articles about linz Anity
Speaker 3: for NFL dot com, which makes no senseball.
Speaker 1: I remember we were at the Super Bowl when Lynsanity ended.
Speaker 1: They got blown out when we are an indie Super
Speaker 1: Bowl week and it was kind of like the unofficial end,
Speaker 1: let's give Tommy cutlets the last word?
Speaker 6: Did you have fireworks go off for a non touchdown?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: That was the first time I was like, I was
Speaker 4: on the verge of celebrating on the vergin not I
Speaker 4: was like.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a touchdown, but we got we gotta say
Speaker 3: the guy.
Speaker 4: Who watched the fireworks, so it was a touchdown.
Speaker 6: Appreciate it for that. I appreciate the belief.
Speaker 1: He seems like a nice boy.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Big Bone Randy by the way hitting
Speaker 2: that kick.
Speaker 1: Anybody else think he was going to miss that?
Speaker 2: Troy and said what I think we were all thinking
Speaker 2: was like, he looks like he has a lot on
Speaker 2: his mind right now. Such a good call.
Speaker 1: You can't be number forty six as a kicker especially,
Speaker 1: and also, like listen, I empathize, you know, with Big
Speaker 1: Bone Randy, Like, you know, big guys, we got enough
Speaker 1: to worry about with our appearance, but when you wear
Speaker 1: number forty six, it kind of just it just makes
Speaker 1: you look a little bit thicker. I think he's got
Speaker 1: to go down to a single digit.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's leaning into it, you know, he's comfortable on
Speaker 4: his own.
Speaker 2: You take the lizo of you run out of numbers
Speaker 2: or something. Speaking of Troy, that reminds me when this
Speaker 2: game was less interesting, I was going to give Troy
Speaker 2: a lot of love for the rant he took, which
Speaker 2: I was I was absolutely feeling in my annoyed as
Speaker 2: the end of this first half was interminable and this
Speaker 2: game started falling behind the pace of the Dolphins game
Speaker 2: down in Miami. I think we have that, Eric, don't we.
Speaker 6: I mean, if it is out of bounds, it's ball
Speaker 6: at the forty you've got no timeouts.
Speaker 1: But maybe with.
Speaker 6: Thirteen seconds left you try to get the ball downfield. Well,
Speaker 6: here's a spot. The problem with all this is just
Speaker 6: make a call, you know. I mean, there's thirteen seconds
Speaker 6: in the half they're gonna get you know, just make
Speaker 6: a decision. And this is what offs all these games.
Speaker 6: And the officials, I know they've been they've been talked
Speaker 6: about every week, but this is ridiculous. So we're watching
Speaker 6: right now. I mean, we see something, it takes five seconds,
Speaker 6: it takes them five minutes.
Speaker 1: Troy knows he's got known to answer to, so he
Speaker 1: gets to call it like he sees it. And that's
Speaker 1: why they're the best. Finally, according to Next Gen Stats,
Speaker 1: before the first touchdown of the comeback for the Titans,
Speaker 1: the Dobbins had a ninety six point six percent win
Speaker 1: probability in this game, so zero point four percent for
Speaker 1: the Titans. That is the second most improbable comeback in
Speaker 1: the next Gen stats era, which started in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, do you know what is number one on
Speaker 1: the list?
Speaker 3: I would guess if I really had to last year's
Speaker 3: Jets Brown's game.
Speaker 4: That seems so absurd to me.
Speaker 1: You're right. It was point three. That was the Joe
Speaker 1: Flaco game where the Jets were down thirty seventeen. They
Speaker 1: got a bomb touchdown on side kick recovery Garrett Wilson
Speaker 1: touchdown to steal that game in Cleveland. That is Week
Speaker 1: two of twenty twenty two. And then number three the
Speaker 1: Vikings Week fifteen of twenty twenty two. I think that's
Speaker 1: the thirty three nothing game. They had a zero point
Speaker 1: four percent chance of coming back in that game, and
Speaker 1: they did the Niners, And this one just escapes me.
Speaker 1: Week eighteen, twenty twenty one point four percent also, and
Speaker 1: then the Titans back in Week ten of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Fans of these franchises know exactly the game that I'm
Speaker 1: referring to point five percent chance, So.
Speaker 2: Any in regulation, that's the thing that at seven hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty seven numbers, that's all winning and overtime. I
Speaker 2: think they'll find out. But all indicasions are. This has
Speaker 2: literally never happened to win in regulation.
Speaker 1: Right, relatively speaking, plenty of time to go win the
Speaker 1: game because it happens so quickly. They did it with
Speaker 1: such ease as unbelievable. And I feel although you know,
Speaker 1: Jets fans never feel bad for the Dolphins. I love
Speaker 1: me this one.
Speaker 2: You were enjoying this one.
Speaker 1: I love me some handsome Hank and Henry Hotchen commented
Speaker 1: on X he's a diehard Dolphins fan that he stayed up.
Speaker 1: Let me see it. Hang on, let me check something here.
Speaker 4: It's a tough night.
Speaker 1: What time is it in London?
Speaker 2: Well, that game would have ended around four thirty in
Speaker 2: the morning, round four to forty in the morning.
Speaker 1: Wait, let's see a series got this, Hame. What time
Speaker 1: is it in London?
Speaker 2: You don't believe me.
Speaker 6: It's five am in London, England.
Speaker 1: She just has a little more charisma, Greg no offense. Yes, Syria,
Speaker 1: it's five forty nine right now. So yeah, he and
Speaker 1: that man is a power player Mark in uh in
Speaker 1: all international dealings in the NFL, and in the UK
Speaker 1: and and and now he has to get up in
Speaker 1: the morning. So being a fan sometimes it's a shot
Speaker 1: to the crotch.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, possibly the future Commissioner. I mean, I
Speaker 3: would say in my he'd be in my top three
Speaker 3: lists of legitimate humans that could be the Commissioner right
Speaker 3: currently lives you know, during the week at some points
Speaker 3: in the in the room above a pub in London.
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure what was going on at four
Speaker 3: thirty in the morning in his world, but he could
Speaker 3: not have been pleased with the results.
Speaker 1: All right, good way to close it. Let's get out
Speaker 1: of here. Nice Monday night. Get used to it. Mark.
Speaker 1: I think you're right.
Speaker 4: It's the future.
Speaker 1: We will be back on Wednesday. It's the Connie Connie
Speaker 1: Fox Show, so please be there and like I said,
Speaker 1: NFL plus check that out, Rams Ravens rewatch. We had
Speaker 1: a good time with that until then, Heath the call