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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast knows the NFL ai overlords

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Speaker 1: put two games on tonight to annoy Mark. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansens,

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Speaker 1: Scott Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: It's got Greg Rosenthal and yes, two Monday night football

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Speaker 1: games a source of annoyance. Sure, but then the games

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Speaker 1: unfold and I have to say, and I'm curious your thoughts, Mark,

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Speaker 1: that was the most fun I've had watching football this

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Speaker 1: year because of the two games, the quality, the uniqueness

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Speaker 1: of them, the endings for both the plot lines. This

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Speaker 1: probably means we'll have two Monday night football games for

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Speaker 1: the rest of time now because the NFL will think

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Speaker 1: this can happen every week. But I really had a

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Speaker 1: great time watching football tonight, and now we get to

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Speaker 1: talk about it, which is cool as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I told, I told Greg before we got

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Speaker 3: on that I had a not even a hot take

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Speaker 3: just to take about what this evening, What what had

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Speaker 3: unraveled in terms of like a red carpet for the

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Speaker 3: rest of our lives is. I think this set the

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Speaker 3: table for this happening probably eight weeks a year, if

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Speaker 3: not every week.

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Speaker 4: Because it worked tonight.

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Speaker 3: Let's be real, like I mean, I think you watched

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Speaker 3: the end of this Giants game, and we'll get into it.

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Speaker 3: And at that point, there was about two two plus

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Speaker 3: minutes left in the Dolphins game, which seemed out of reach.

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Speaker 3: It's like, of course, one of these will kind of

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Speaker 3: be sealed up, and then what unfurled from there was

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Speaker 3: complete zaniness. It is an NFL schedule makers and NFL

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Speaker 3: masterminds dream, and I think the Dolphins game was was

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Speaker 3: one of the craziest endings I've witnessed all season.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was this was a bolt of lightning.

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Speaker 1: You get.

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Speaker 2: You could put two Monday night games on every Monday

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Speaker 2: night for the next five seasons, and you might not

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Speaker 2: get a Monday night like Tommy Cutlet's going down the

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Speaker 2: field after they coughed up a big lead, followed by

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Speaker 2: a team gagging away a lead in a manner that

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Speaker 2: literally hasn't been done this century at the exact same time.

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Speaker 2: So these were two of the most memorable games of

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Speaker 2: the season, and they happened to happen on the exact

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Speaker 2: same night. I'm with you, There'll be more of these nights,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think there'll be a night quite like

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Speaker 2: this one because it was just too freaking crazy.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I know, working with Zumwalt on the

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Speaker 1: drop today. One of the other kind of angles I

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Speaker 1: made by the AI bot and they just said, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: we didn't realize until it's too late. We sent down

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Speaker 1: the schedules, so let's just play two games. And did

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Speaker 1: anyone else find it odd and maybe borderline disturbing that

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Speaker 1: at halftime of these games it was the same score,

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Speaker 1: the same general game script, the same vibe with a

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Speaker 1: underdog leading a favorite. It was almost like the simulation

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Speaker 1: was exposed Truman. Truman's shows a style that changed in

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Speaker 1: the second half, so that was also comforting to me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I mean, you know we have we do

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Speaker 3: text with Zumwalt a little bit during these affairs when

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Speaker 3: they're these Island games, and you know, naturally he was

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Speaker 4: And I like it too. I mean, I'm from the

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Speaker 3: I think it's a cool story, but like there was

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Speaker 3: a part of me it's like if all of this, Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I am from multiple places, but I lived like like

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Speaker 4: And it's like to me, it was like.

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Speaker 3: Is this this is so surreal at the end of

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Speaker 3: and scripted large chunks of what we experienced with the NFL,

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Speaker 3: and both of these things were happening tonight at once.

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Speaker 4: Because Will Levis also feels like he.

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Speaker 3: Was pulled out of nineteen eighty eight, like WWF Paul Orange.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so why don't we dive into it? And I

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Speaker 1: so into this the Vito situation. That game is twenty

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Speaker 4: Difference, right, didn't get out of bounds.

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Speaker 6: Ball two yards here to keep the dream him alive

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Speaker 7: Traffic, he'll be broughted out. At Tennessee. He's going to

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Speaker 7: secure an incredible, improbable come back victory and win for

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Speaker 1: My goodness to a taken down was that Howld Landry

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Speaker 2: Mean, it is unconscionable, like there is no precedent at

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Speaker 2: We got all the researchers out there trying to figure

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Speaker 2: But most of those when you have the fourteen minutes

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Speaker 2: during this comeback, and it happened because a Levis's huevos

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Speaker 2: like the plays he made. I know he didn't have

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Speaker 2: but Mike Rabel passed the down by eight, going for

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Speaker 2: understand why they're doing this. Them getting on the plane

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins messed up two offensive positions, they tried to

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Speaker 2: The defense just felt as much as Tua looked frazzled

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Speaker 2: how the Dolphins blew it, the fact that their defense

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Speaker 2: It was an amazing defensive collapse from a defense that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I go back to when, like the DeAndre

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Speaker 3: He dominated tonight. They don't win that game without DeAndre

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Speaker 3: Hopkins looking like the Hopkins from years ago. Tajy Spears

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Speaker 3: me wonders, like the players just from a human angle,

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Speaker 3: that situation, did they kind of just collapse and were

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Speaker 3: I also I want to, you know, from a Dolphins

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Speaker 3: I think the loss of Connor Williams early in the

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Speaker 3: We know what happens to Miami's offense when they I

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Speaker 3: And this was a Titans defense that took them down

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Speaker 3: And it was kind of like a classic Mike Rabel

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tyreek Hill suffers the ankle injury early, look

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Speaker 1: really bad. Another hip drop tackle and they're gonna, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I think, change the rules to protect these guys because

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Speaker 1: Here's Tua on how things played out in the end.

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Speaker 5: We got to do a better job finishing the game

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Speaker 3: What a what a couple of days for the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 2: Right, Dan, I think we shouldn't lose for people that

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you said it first, Mark, because you know,

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Speaker 2: Feel like two good teams and two good quarterbacks playing

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Speaker 1: like I've seen enough of kind of meltdowns and failures

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Speaker 1: No, no, I like everybody.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up because that's important. And

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Speaker 3: but that doesn't matter. A lot of them are like

435
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Speaker 3: flotsam and jetsamen down below. The Dolphins are sitting there.

436
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 3: They we're our number one seed for a bit, and if,

437
00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 3: like you take one or two pieces away from them,

438
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 3: they float away. And that's why I lack a little

439
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 3: bit of trust in to echo what you said, to

440
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: echo what I said before, to echo what you said.

441
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Speaker 4: And I said, I.

442
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Speaker 1: Love the echo echo of fact. James Bomber, the dude

443
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: love James Palmer here at NFL Media. He notes that

444
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 1: the broadcast noted teams had lost seven hundred and sixty

445
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Speaker 1: seven straight games when down fourteen in the final three minutes,

446
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Speaker 1: and that ended tonight. The AFC is drunk. All right,

447
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and get into the other one,

448
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 1: because that one was like just as crazy in different ways.

449
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Speaker 1: Football bea back.

450
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Speaker 6: Officially thirty seven yards, behold the cat, the ram for

451
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Speaker 6: the Giants.

452
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Speaker 1: And tell me DeVito and Brian table one three strength,

453
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Speaker 1: Oh man, that's Joe Buck with the call this is

454
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Speaker 1: a night. Yes again twice in one week. That's pretty good.

455
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito goes four for four. I mean, it's crazy

456
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: we're talking up to as an MVP candidate. And then

457
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito, this undrafted kid out of don Bosco Prep

458
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: in Northern Jersey, says, this is how you handle end

459
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Speaker 1: of game drive. You go four for four, including a

460
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Speaker 1: thirty two yard pass to Wandel Robinson to set up

461
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: big Bone Randy Bullock thirty seven yard field goals. Time

462
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: expires a toning for a miss earlier in the game,

463
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: and the Giants nip the Packers previously red hot Packers

464
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty two at the Metal ends. And

465
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,239
Speaker 1: what was like, I said, my whole life, I've been

466
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: jealous of Giants fans because it just seems fun. What

467
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: a scene at MetLife Stadium, what a celebration, and a

468
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: lot of it is like you know how like Creed

469
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: the Bad band has become a meme this year and

470
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of ironically enjoying Creed and it's everywhere. That's

471
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: kind of what this Tommy DeVito thing is in a way,

472
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Speaker 1: like where everyone's ironically enjoying this guy who's not really

473
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Speaker 1: much of a prospect, but they're winning with him. It's

474
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Speaker 1: three in a row, and you have all the memes

475
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: and the crazy family and the agent that looks like

476
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: he's an extra from the Sopranos. But then which on

477
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: YouTube that is on the right is the agent who

478
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: will probably be fired in less than six weeks. But today, tonight,

479
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Speaker 1: I actually saw Tommy DeVito make big time plays in

480
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: this game. And the stat line doesn't jump out at you, Greg,

481
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: but big time plays that helped the Giants win this game,

482
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: like he was a part of winning the game more

483
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Speaker 1: than he had been previously, and just like a fun,

484
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: silly night and a bad loss for Green Bay.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the things I love about backup

486
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks now. They all can run like there is no

487
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: such thing as in a mobile quarterback anymore. They literally

488
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: don't exist. So in a worst case scenario, and Dommy

489
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: DeVito is way better than a worst case scenario for

490
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, he can put his foot in the

491
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: ground and go. And he came into this game knowing

492
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Speaker 2: I am taking sacks at a higher rate than like

493
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: Sam Howell on his worst day, I am taking sacks

494
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: at a rate that is just absolutely insane, and I'm

495
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: fumbling and all this, and I refuse to take sacks.

496
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: And so when he wasn't seeing the open receiver quickly,

497
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: which happened plenty, he was just kind of putting his

498
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: foot in the ground and going and it led to

499
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 2: some pretty frustrating offense. Early. You were commentating on our

500
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: text threat They're like, this is not fun to watch.

501
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: But he was picking up seven eight yards. He wasn't

502
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 2: making a mistake, he wasn't turning the ball over. And

503
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: in the second half, they were finding open receivers and

504
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: Wandel Robinson and Isaiah Hodgens made nice catches that throw

505
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: to Robinson who ran a beautiful route. This is what

506
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: this season needs to be about for the Giants. They're

507
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: finding young players that can be part of their future,

508
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: and DeVito is gonna be part of their future. By

509
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: the way. He might not be their starter next year.

510
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't expect that, but he might make it easier

511
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: to move on from Daniel Jones and have him solid

512
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: as a backup for a long time or whatever it's

513
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: gonna be. And seeing Hodgens like standing over the packers

514
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: defender and kind of flexing, and then the fast cut

515
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: to mister DeVito and the agent giving him kisses on

516
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: the cheek. I mean that felt that was from the scriptwriter.

517
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: That was Straat. I couldn't believe this was happening.

518
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: It's very surreal to watch it kind of at one moment,

519
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 3: like even in terms of physical bodies like hitting Wandie Robinson.

520
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: At one point it looked like it was like Jeff

521
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: Hostetler throwing it downfield to Phil McConkey, like thirty five

522
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 3: forty years ago for the Giants. It just was a

523
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: very strange evening. But I will say this, like DeVito

524
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: might his numbers don't look flashy, but here's what he

525
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: Here's what you want him to do is not make

526
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: major mistakes, and he didn't. He was seventeen for twenty one.

527
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 3: I think two of those incompletions came kind of right away.

528
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: He was money down the stretch either one twenty six

529
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: yard run that showed off his speed. And for me,

530
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: it's an argument for Brian Dable in a season where

531
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: he was losing the argument in a big way, where

532
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: you're wondering what Brian Dabele was about after winning Coach

533
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: of the Year. It's like, this isn't someone you'd think

534
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: someone could coach up and turn around and have a

535
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: game like this and do what he did in the

536
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: final couple of minutes and look the way he did,

537
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: and it's just a completely improbable NFL narrative. It feels

538
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: totally surreal to me, but so enjoyable. And I kind

539
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: of think we're at this point now. Whe're always every

540
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: one of these games where an unlikely quarterback does what

541
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: they do, like you're cutting away to the parents, and

542
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 3: doesn't that just look like the most parental situation ever

543
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: Fordvito Dan, Like I think you mentioned kind of this

544
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: could have been you in another reality, like you know,

545
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: fifteen twenty years from now.

546
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a resemblance between me and Timy DeVito's father,

547
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: a more prominent nose on him. I got the smaller

548
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: like Irish nose. He's got the Italian honker. But like otherwise,

549
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: there's definitely some there's some blood there. He might be

550
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: an uncle. It's certainly within the realm of possibility. You know.

551
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: First of all, de Vido on the touchdown throw to Hodgens,

552
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: he reached sixteen miles per hour on the run, which

553
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: is like a top five speed for a quarterback on

554
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: a completion. This season, the run that you mentioned mark

555
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: down to the goal line, which you might have gotten

556
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: in on that they got the touchdown. Anyway, with Barkley,

557
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: that was really I mean, this guy is not like

558
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: rec league basketball fast, like he's legitimately pro athlete fast.

559
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: And he's also making four hundred and sixteen grand this year,

560
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: which is pretty nice. But Daniel Jones on the injured list,

561
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: is making forty six million this year, so that is

562
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy, and it's kind of a cruel

563
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: irony for me because we all want to be right

564
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: on the show when we go out on a limb,

565
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: and I said, I don't want to fork the Giants

566
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: when they were one and eight or whatever, because they've

567
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: already been through the worst of it. The schedule softens up.

568
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I think Dable's a good coach. They have to get

569
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: better if they don't blow that ninety nine percent game

570
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: against the Jets. They are in the they're in the

571
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: playoff mix in the NFC. As crazy as that said

572
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: are now they are they're on the fringes still.

573
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: They're they're literally one game out of the playoffs. I

574
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: mean it, granted it's six teams there, I think are

575
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: five teams at six and seven, but that sort of

576
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: blew my mind when they said that. Going into the game,

577
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: they said, well, if they win this game, that knocks

578
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: the Packers down a six and seven, they're only one

579
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: back of the seven spot.

580
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: Good, I mean good for Dable. Obviously, a great story

581
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: with Tovido, who will never buy you know, eggplant parmesan

582
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: in that town ever again because he's already stamped his

583
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: legend now, just kind of seeing he's playing with house

584
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: money almost already in his career, and you just want

585
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: to see where it goes from here. But what a

586
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: fun scene now the Packer side of it, Mark, like

587
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: we and you, you've been as high on the Packers

588
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: as anyone the last few weeks, as they've as they've risen,

589
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: and with good reason, because they've been playing so well.

590
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: I kind of want to kill them because they are

591
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: they got to win this game. But at the same time,

592
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: like it was a a bit of a weird energy

593
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: that they went into on the road on Monday night,

594
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: and then it felt like there was some magic on

595
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: the air in the air while they didn't play at

596
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: a high level and Love came down in the offense

597
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: in general was discombobulated. This they kind of ran into

598
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a sneaky buzz saw. I don't

599
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: want to I'm not going to put him out to

600
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: pasture off this loss. Now you disagree with me, I'd

601
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: love to hear it bad loss, but I don't. I

602
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: still believe in the Packers. I think it was a

603
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: rough night with a little magic in Northern Jersey.

604
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: I think it was just, you know, these NFL moments,

605
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: there is energy to it. I understand that, you know,

606
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: certain people that Patrick Claibun's the world want to believe

607
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: it's just, you know, robots playing against each other. But

608
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: there is something that happens in these stadiums. And I

609
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: just think about the noise in the Baltimore Stadium in

610
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: the game we just reviewed today and the way it

611
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 3: felt tonight. There is just something going on right. It's

612
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: like if you're pulled into that world, you're part of it.

613
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: And I mean, I think the Packers have grown up

614
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: so quickly that we forget where they were just three

615
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: or four weeks ago, and where Jordan Love was just

616
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: three or four weeks ago.

617
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: So I'm with you.

618
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: I'm not out on them at all. Tonight happened, But

619
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: you've got the Bucks at home, you go to Carolina

620
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: after that, you go to a Vikings team that feels

621
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: kind of floating away a little bit, and then you

622
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: got the Bears. Those are four manageable games. I think

623
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: you probably got to take care of three of those. Probably,

624
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: But what we've seen from green Bay, I mean, we

625
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: were coming off of Matt Laflor's I think two best

626
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: coach games. Tonight arrowed down on all that, but like

627
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: it's not enough for me to think that the whole

628
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: thing was a mirage. And there's a lot to like

629
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: with Green Bay in a really weak NFC with a

630
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: bunch of pretenders vying for wild cards. So I'm not

631
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: out on them either.

632
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a game where like, unlike the Titans

633
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins looked like two teams kind of just

634
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: blowing it back and forth, the Packers just looked like

635
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: the better team for two and a half quarters of

636
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: this game and just kept making mistakes and just handing

637
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: it to the Giants. You know, with the they had

638
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: three turnovers that there was the interception by Love there

639
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: was let me think he had one interception we had also,

640
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: what was it the two fumbles? They had it like

641
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: a punt return, Like the games were like copying each

642
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: other on some level, but they kept setting the Giants

643
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: up in good spots. Love had the fumble and had

644
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: the interception, and the Giants weren't doing anything with it.

645
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: I mean, the Giants had very little offense for three

646
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: quarters and the Packers would move the ball and then

647
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: just blow open receivers. Love was just missing open receivers,

648
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: and I thought Wink Martindale did a good job just

649
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: setting pressure after pressure after pressure, and it made Love

650
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: overthink it. And he was just like a step late

651
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: almost every throw. And it was a rough really three

652
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: and a half quarters for him, until he got the

653
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: ball back a couple times down eight points and had

654
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: two really good drives. One they ended up setting for

655
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: a field goal, and the next he made his three

656
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: best throws of the night and end up getting a

657
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: go ahead touchdown. And that finished by Love for me,

658
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: helped wipe away a lot of what we saw before,

659
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: because if DeVito didn't come up with heroics, we'd be

660
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: talking about how yeah, it wasn't a great game for Love,

661
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: but that he saved his best stuff for the fourth.

662
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Courter right, and you know the Giants. It should be

663
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: stated that the Giants kind of had this game nearly

664
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: salted away. They have a first and ten at midfield

665
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: with four minutes to play. Barkley bounces off right tackle

666
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: goes thirty four yards, so they're set up inside the

667
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: red zone first and ten with under four minutes to

668
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: play with a twenty one to sixteen lead. But then

669
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: he stumbles and fumbles the ball, which is an outrageous

670
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: turn of events. He's barely fumbled his whole career. And

671
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: then a great job by Valentine who scoops it up

672
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: and returns it fifty yards to the Giants thirty six

673
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: and then the Packers then march thirty six yards on

674
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: nine plays for the go ahead touchdown, and Love made

675
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: big throws. I actually thought he we've had the touchdown,

676
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: the great play at the pylon. I thought it should

677
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown before that too. I thought he

678
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: got two feet down the possession of the ball. It's like,

679
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: how do they How's that not a touchdown? But they

680
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: got it anyway, So you saw you saw that and

681
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: missing the two point conversion. Man, The Ravens got the

682
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: two point conversion on Sunday and it saved their butt

683
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: when the Rams went down the field. Here's what happens

684
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: when you miss on that two point conversion, because it

685
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: allowed Randy Bullock to beat them with the field goal

686
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: and when the defense couldn't get the stop. And I

687
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: think I've seen some frustration from Packers fans out in

688
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: the Twitter verse about how Joe Barry and the defense

689
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: played that final drive too soft, letting the Giants kind

690
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: of and I kind of this drives me crazy a lot.

691
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: It happens almost every single week where it almost feels

692
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: like the defenses are more worried about getting the clock

693
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: to go down, and then all of a sudden you

694
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: blink in that team's inside your territory and it happened

695
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: again here.

696
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bizarre. You're so worried about trying to

697
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: keep them in bounce that they give up two straight

698
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: I think it was seven yard plays to start it.

699
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: And you were right about comparing Devido in two of there.

700
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: Because Divito wasn't messing around. He got rid of the

701
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: ball right at the back of his drop with those

702
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: first couple throws and with a minute thirty which they

703
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: had in timeouts, there was no need to hurry. And

704
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: on the fourth play he hits the big one and

705
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: then they sit on it like they they had plenty

706
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 2: of time. They were inside a forty yard field goal

707
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: with like forty seconds to go, because that's the thing.

708
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: You can happily take those six seven yard games and

709
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: then you just have to pop one pass, and they

710
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: did it. And again, I don't think we should underrate

711
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: how well Wandel Robinson played in this game because the

712
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: routes he was running, he's coming off the torny Aco.

713
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: He finishes with six for seventy nine on seven targets

714
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 2: and also has a thirty two yard run that set

715
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: up their first score. Like those that first score was

716
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: all schemed up plays by Dable and Robinson. He looks

717
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: like he's a player. Like I'm not saying he's going

718
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: to be a number one receiver, but okay, there's one

719
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: receiver we can have. We think we like Jalen Hyatt. Okay,

720
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: like the Packers, maybe we have two young guys that

721
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: are going to be part of a nice rotation moving forward.

722
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: You do get a de Vito versus Jalen Hurts twice

723
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: between now and the end of the season.

724
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: He also plays the ram.

725
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean the way the Eagles are playing, the prize

726
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: of one or both of those games are competitive, right,

727
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: and I.

728
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: Think the defense, to be fair, it's played a lot better,

729
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: including tonight too, that it's giving them a chance to

730
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: win these games.

731
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: I think they're a classic berserker with a very with

732
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 3: one of the most interesting quarterback situations of the last

733
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: five years. So I am suddenly plugged into watching the

734
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: New York Giants.

735
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we got berserkers all over the place.

736
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: The Titans are a classic berserker. I think that's a

737
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: team that could have another weird win here. Giants are

738
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: a berserker, and the Bears have been playing like a

739
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: berserker too, with like a top five type of defense

740
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: and a dangerous key be Like, there is not much

741
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: separating these playoff teams from the four to five win teams.

742
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no I said to my wife, Divito's agent,

743
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: who looks like he's about twenty three. I even, I said,

744
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: he looks like an extra the Sopranos. That's too kind.

745
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: He could be a great guy. I'm not trying to

746
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: bury him, but he looks more like a guy from Entourage.

747
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: And I said, he better get a good night's sleep

748
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: because he's got a lot of work to do tomorrow.

749
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: Like he's that the amount of money to be made

750
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: for Tommy DeVito at this moment of time. I just

751
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: hope that he's got his business affairs with the right individual.

752
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: I have my doubts, but I will apologize if de

753
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: Vito is minted by the end of the calendar year.

754
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: He does look a little bit to me like like

755
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: a cousin of Mad Doug Russo. If you if you take,

756
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 3: if you know, if you go on your own time,

757
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: go and examine it, Like if a cousin of Mad

758
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: Doug Russo were dressed in all black, you know, a

759
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: gold chain and a black fedora.

760
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 4: There's some Russo asque, but you know.

761
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: It's like So was younger, and it was Halloween and

762
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: the and the Halloween party theme was a gangster party

763
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: from the nineteen twenties.

764
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: There you go.

765
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: If he doesn't have his name as like the title

766
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: sponsor owner on a Ford dealership in New Jersey, by

767
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: next Tuesday, the agent's not doing his job.

768
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: You gotta move You gotta move on. You gotta get

769
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: somebody else, because you know what else is gonna happen

770
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: with Tommy. Probably his parents are going to get the

771
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: phone call because they are his legal guardians in a

772
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: lot of ways. Still, there's gonna be a lot of

773
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: actual like established agents being like you gotta lose, you

774
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: know e, from entourage. We gotta we gotta be serious

775
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: about this, So that will be a test of loyalty.

776
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: And loyalty is a bit I'll tell you what. I'm

777
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: not Italian, but the Italian Americans that in New York,

778
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: New Jersey, it's all about loyalty. Let's see if he

779
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: is loyal to that guy, Dan.

780
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: Let me ask you one question because I was, I was,

781
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: you know, talking with this about somewhat on our text

782
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: like they kept and I look at I get it.

783
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: It's a very East Coast thing. I can already answer

784
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: my own question a little bit.

785
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: But it's like that the de Vito family, that all

786
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: these people are bringing food over to the house, and

787
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: so in general, like you bring food over to the

788
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: house of someone who's you know, no one's able to

789
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: cook because they've lost a close relative, and like there's

790
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: a lot of grieving, and you don't want to make

791
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: someone have to toil and cook for a bunch of

792
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: you bring food or a baby's just been born. But

793
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: it's like, your son is a successful and one of

794
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: the most successful New York sports stories of the last

795
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 3: you know, two or three decades. So we all bring

796
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: you food. Is it just because we want to be

797
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 3: part of it? I mean, it's not because you need

798
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: us to cook for you.

799
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a good I think there's probably some

800
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: of that because that it gives the excuse to go

801
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: over to the DeVito house right now. But I also

802
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: know that an Italian culture of food and the sharing

803
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: of food is an expression of love and intimacy, so

804
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: that's probably part of it too. And it's it's it's

805
00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: very there's something very warm about it. And I love.

806
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: It, and I know it's a cultural thing. But he's

807
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: going to start he's got to start getting antsy about

808
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a twenty five year old living at

809
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: home with his parents. I know there's the culture thing.

810
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: It's like that. I don't know, it's a tough it's

811
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: got to be a tough spot. I mean, I remember

812
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: I went back. I know He's in a much different

813
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: place and everything's different. I remember spending that one freshman

814
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: summer after I went away to college back at home,

815
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: living at home, and I was like, oh man, I'm

816
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: never going to do this again. This was a mistake.

817
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: Why did I even come home for this one summer.

818
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: There are two types of people in the world, the

819
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: people that cannot wait to get into their own apartment

820
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: after college and the people that are no like great rush,

821
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: I was actually more in the Davido camp. I was

822
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: out of the house. I think right at my twenty

823
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: fourth birthday. I think we moved into Hoboken, which is

824
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: probably like where Tommy DeVito's dad is from, right around

825
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: twenty four. And I didn't mind living at home. I

826
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: didn't have any money. I mean, like it was that's great. Yeah,

827
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: And that's the thing with DeVito, Like that's what he's saying,

828
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: is like I live rent free, I get my laundry done,

829
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: I get amazing home cooking. Everyone's nice to me. They

830
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: give me some space that I need. My bed is

831
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: made for me, Like it checks out. But yeah, I

832
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: know a lot of people that are like that too.

833
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: Where it's like college is the demarcation line where I

834
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: don't need to be at home ever again.

835
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: It's a great motivation to make that rent money, but

836
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: more just like you want to be you know, you

837
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: want to feel free, you want to get out. But

838
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: it is working for him and I love it.

839
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: It is.

840
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: It is the most fun, giant story that there has

841
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: ever been.

842
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, well those two forty six.

843
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying fun.

844
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fun.

845
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: By the way, it gives me a little bit of insanity,

846
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: which I was in New York for. It's totally different,

847
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: and yet it feels like it's of the same piece of.

848
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: That is a good parallel. Like Dan and I just

849
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: started working in NFL.

850
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: Back then.

851
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: We were writing NFL dot Com articles about linz Anity

852
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: for NFL dot com, which makes no senseball.

853
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: I remember we were at the Super Bowl when Lynsanity ended.

854
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: They got blown out when we are an indie Super

855
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: Bowl week and it was kind of like the unofficial end,

856
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: let's give Tommy cutlets the last word?

857
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 6: Did you have fireworks go off for a non touchdown?

858
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

859
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: That was the first time I was like, I was

860
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 4: on the verge of celebrating on the vergin not I

861
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: was like.

862
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: It wasn't a touchdown, but we got we gotta say

863
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: the guy.

864
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: Who watched the fireworks, so it was a touchdown.

865
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 6: Appreciate it for that. I appreciate the belief.

866
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Speaker 1: He seems like a nice boy.

867
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: Shout out to Big Bone Randy by the way hitting

868
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: that kick.

869
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: Anybody else think he was going to miss that?

870
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: Troy and said what I think we were all thinking

871
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: was like, he looks like he has a lot on

872
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 2: his mind right now. Such a good call.

873
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: You can't be number forty six as a kicker especially,

874
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: and also, like listen, I empathize, you know, with Big

875
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: Bone Randy, Like, you know, big guys, we got enough

876
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: to worry about with our appearance, but when you wear

877
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: number forty six, it kind of just it just makes

878
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: you look a little bit thicker. I think he's got

879
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: to go down to a single digit.

880
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: Maybe he's leaning into it, you know, he's comfortable on

881
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: his own.

882
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: You take the lizo of you run out of numbers

883
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: or something. Speaking of Troy, that reminds me when this

884
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: game was less interesting, I was going to give Troy

885
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 2: a lot of love for the rant he took, which

886
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: I was I was absolutely feeling in my annoyed as

887
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: the end of this first half was interminable and this

888
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: game started falling behind the pace of the Dolphins game

889
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: down in Miami. I think we have that, Eric, don't we.

890
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 6: I mean, if it is out of bounds, it's ball

891
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 6: at the forty you've got no timeouts.

892
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: But maybe with.

893
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 6: Thirteen seconds left you try to get the ball downfield. Well,

894
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 6: here's a spot. The problem with all this is just

895
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 6: make a call, you know. I mean, there's thirteen seconds

896
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 6: in the half they're gonna get you know, just make

897
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 6: a decision. And this is what offs all these games.

898
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 6: And the officials, I know they've been they've been talked

899
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 6: about every week, but this is ridiculous. So we're watching

900
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 6: right now. I mean, we see something, it takes five seconds,

901
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 6: it takes them five minutes.

902
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Troy knows he's got known to answer to, so he

903
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: gets to call it like he sees it. And that's

904
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: why they're the best. Finally, according to Next Gen Stats,

905
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: before the first touchdown of the comeback for the Titans,

906
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: the Dobbins had a ninety six point six percent win

907
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: probability in this game, so zero point four percent for

908
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: the Titans. That is the second most improbable comeback in

909
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: the next Gen stats era, which started in twenty sixteen.

910
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, do you know what is number one on

911
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: the list?

912
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: I would guess if I really had to last year's

913
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 3: Jets Brown's game.

914
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: That seems so absurd to me.

915
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: You're right. It was point three. That was the Joe

916
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Flaco game where the Jets were down thirty seventeen. They

917
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: got a bomb touchdown on side kick recovery Garrett Wilson

918
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: touchdown to steal that game in Cleveland. That is Week

919
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: two of twenty twenty two. And then number three the

920
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: Vikings Week fifteen of twenty twenty two. I think that's

921
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: the thirty three nothing game. They had a zero point

922
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: four percent chance of coming back in that game, and

923
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: they did the Niners, And this one just escapes me.

924
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: Week eighteen, twenty twenty one point four percent also, and

925
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: then the Titans back in Week ten of twenty nineteen.

926
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: Fans of these franchises know exactly the game that I'm

927
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: referring to point five percent chance, So.

928
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: Any in regulation, that's the thing that at seven hundred

929
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: and sixty seven numbers, that's all winning and overtime. I

930
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: think they'll find out. But all indicasions are. This has

931
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: literally never happened to win in regulation.

932
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: Right, relatively speaking, plenty of time to go win the

933
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: game because it happens so quickly. They did it with

934
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: such ease as unbelievable. And I feel although you know,

935
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: Jets fans never feel bad for the Dolphins. I love

936
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: me this one.

937
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: You were enjoying this one.

938
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: I love me some handsome Hank and Henry Hotchen commented

939
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: on X he's a diehard Dolphins fan that he stayed up.

940
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: Let me see it. Hang on, let me check something here.

941
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: It's a tough night.

942
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: What time is it in London?

943
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: Well, that game would have ended around four thirty in

944
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: the morning, round four to forty in the morning.

945
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: Wait, let's see a series got this, Hame. What time

946
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: is it in London?

947
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: You don't believe me.

948
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 6: It's five am in London, England.

949
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: She just has a little more charisma, Greg no offense. Yes, Syria,

950
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: it's five forty nine right now. So yeah, he and

951
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: that man is a power player Mark in uh in

952
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: all international dealings in the NFL, and in the UK

953
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: and and and now he has to get up in

954
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: the morning. So being a fan sometimes it's a shot

955
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: to the crotch.

956
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, possibly the future Commissioner. I mean, I

957
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: would say in my he'd be in my top three

958
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: lists of legitimate humans that could be the Commissioner right

959
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: currently lives you know, during the week at some points

960
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 3: in the in the room above a pub in London.

961
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure what was going on at four

962
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 3: thirty in the morning in his world, but he could

963
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: not have been pleased with the results.

964
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: All right, good way to close it. Let's get out

965
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: of here. Nice Monday night. Get used to it. Mark.

966
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

967
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: It's the future.

968
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Speaker 1: We will be back on Wednesday. It's the Connie Connie

969
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: Fox Show, so please be there and like I said,

970
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: NFL plus check that out, Rams Ravens rewatch. We had

971
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: a good time with that until then, Heath the call