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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George and no
Speaker 2: Alreay back with Jacob Cooper's. He speaks on lectures on
Speaker 2: wisdom and consciousness, offering meditation and mindfulness seminars to help
Speaker 2: people find purpose and overcome fears of life after death.
Speaker 2: As a clinical social worker, Reiki Master, certified hypnotherapist specializing
Speaker 2: in past life regression, Jacob uses his extensive personal and
Speaker 2: professional experience to empower one soul at a time. His
Speaker 2: latest work is called The Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder and Jacob,
Speaker 2: welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3: Hey George, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: How are you, Ben.
Speaker 3: I've been wonderful.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's just one day at a time, one moment at
Speaker 3: a time, and I hope you've been as well as
Speaker 3: you know as well too.
Speaker 2: Everything's going well. How did you get involved in this area?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, having in your death experience, you know,
Speaker 3: at a very young age, no really influence trajectory of
Speaker 3: my entire life. That put me on, you know, a
Speaker 3: very unique path. You know that that was the biggest influence.
Speaker 3: But I always say, you know, there's givers and takers
Speaker 3: in life, and a lot of people focus on what
Speaker 3: life is giving to them, and some people just understand
Speaker 3: that our life is really about what we give to
Speaker 3: other people and the impacts that we have. And that
Speaker 3: is certainly the family that I come from. That's also
Speaker 3: been installed in me too. That's a young age to
Speaker 3: be a giver.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that new death experience for a moment, Jacob, what.
Speaker 3: Happened to you September of nineteen ninety three at the
Speaker 3: time it was diagnosed with vertussis otherwise known as whipping cough.
Speaker 3: And I went to a playground with family friends of mine,
Speaker 3: and I tried to climb up onto a ladder onto
Speaker 3: a slide, and my body just began to suffocate. I
Speaker 3: was not able to breathe all and every part of
Speaker 3: my body just began to shut down, as if you
Speaker 3: go into your own basement and shut off every power
Speaker 3: breaker one unit at a time. And then slowly I recognized, well,
Speaker 3: my body's not working, so there's no point in me
Speaker 3: being there, As if you're being in a car and
Speaker 3: trying to rive up the engine and the engine's not working,
Speaker 3: so you have to kind of pop the hood, if
Speaker 3: you will. And I was able to become aware of
Speaker 3: my own body but also feel my own brain, and
Speaker 3: I was aware of all the different parts of my
Speaker 3: own brain. It was just fascinating. But due to deprivation
Speaker 3: of oxygen, my entire brain just shut down as if
Speaker 3: a plug was yanked from a wall. And I just
Speaker 3: felt this large crack within my own brain. And once
Speaker 3: my brain cracked open, as the saying goes, that's when
Speaker 3: God in the spirit realm on the other side, just
Speaker 3: came forward. And I just went on an incredible journey
Speaker 3: to a place not outside myself with the deepest part
Speaker 3: of myself, and I encountered my own spiritual guides or
Speaker 3: guardian angels, which we all are assigned before we get
Speaker 3: here in this life, in the pre life planning phase.
Speaker 3: And I was aware of my own of my own
Speaker 3: soul family members. I was aware of angels. God is
Speaker 3: the term that we use that has a religious context
Speaker 3: to it, But to me, that was not a word
Speaker 3: that I could describe in words, but only the energy
Speaker 3: that all of life flows from and comes from in
Speaker 3: the endless apex of reality as we know it, That
Speaker 3: every thought, every action, everything revolving love flows from. And
Speaker 3: I was aware of my own past lives, what I
Speaker 3: did before I got in this life, and I was
Speaker 3: aware of what I would be doing my life's purpose
Speaker 3: in this life. So it was a fascinating panoramic viewpoint
Speaker 3: of myself, not only lifetime, other lifetimes. More importantly, the
Speaker 3: unique purpose that I had in this life, which was
Speaker 3: really to give a piece of the hereafter or the
Speaker 3: after life to the here now for people to really
Speaker 3: remember where they come from, where they're forever connected to,
Speaker 3: and who they really are.
Speaker 2: Jacob, how soon after the near death experience did you
Speaker 2: start developing an interest in past.
Speaker 3: Lives and past lives? Well, you know, it usually takes
Speaker 3: you know, because I was only three years old. So
Speaker 3: I want to preface that consciousness or who we are
Speaker 3: is not produced by our chronological age. It's filtered. We
Speaker 3: know experienced this through our chronological age. But just recently
Speaker 3: my father told me that I came up to him
Speaker 3: and after my near death experience, I said, Dad, remember
Speaker 3: when I was rushed, you know, by the ambulance and
Speaker 3: went to the hospital. Something happened that day. One day,
Speaker 3: it won't it will make sense to you, but right now,
Speaker 3: it will not, and so you've got the experienced. Research
Speaker 3: will tell you that it usually takes two to three
Speaker 3: decades to make sense in process and integrate experience. But
Speaker 3: I've always been fascinated by past lives, and as a kid,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go around saying, oh, this is past life
Speaker 3: or stuff like that, which is kind of happened to
Speaker 3: me and flashing imagery. I'll be playing baseball and I'm
Speaker 3: getting these images of other lifetimes and other different the
Speaker 3: lives that I've lived. And at the time it was cool,
Speaker 3: but there was an intrusiveness to it. I just kind
Speaker 3: of wanted to live my own life, but all these
Speaker 3: things would come forward. It wasn't until I would say,
Speaker 3: probably my later teens early twenties that I went to
Speaker 3: just this intuitive that I saw on the side of
Speaker 3: the road and she was able to tap into exactly
Speaker 3: what I saw in my past life, and that gave
Speaker 3: me evidence I believe. Like my friend and I know
Speaker 3: you've had a Mark Anthony the Psychic Lace great guy,
Speaker 3: but he discusses how really this is about giving pieces
Speaker 3: of evidence, like kind of going into a courtroom, and
Speaker 3: it's not so much about belief. But you need tangible
Speaker 3: pieces of evidence, and so for me, that strengthened my belief,
Speaker 3: to a faith, to a clear knowing that this was
Speaker 3: all real.
Speaker 2: As you got older, Jacob, did it increase your spirituality
Speaker 2: with time?
Speaker 3: You know? It was? You know. I think a lot
Speaker 3: of people look at ner death experiences and they focus
Speaker 3: on the ephoric elements of it. A mess there, but
Speaker 3: for the experiencer themselves, you know, it comes with a
Speaker 3: double edged sword. And not every near death experiencer is
Speaker 3: the same. You know. Many of them have to really
Speaker 3: totally alter their world views and that can make life
Speaker 3: complicated for those around them, or maybe the jobs that
Speaker 3: they're in or the lives that they live. So the
Speaker 3: integration process, as beautiful as it is, you know, and
Speaker 3: when it metamorphosizes, it takes time. But for myself, I
Speaker 3: in order to survive, I almost had to just you know,
Speaker 3: push this away. It was always there to some degree,
Speaker 3: but to thrive I needed to make sense of it.
Speaker 3: I needed to understand really what this was, why I
Speaker 3: was given this? And I always say, if you know
Speaker 3: why why are you going through this? Why are you
Speaker 3: experiencing this? You could determine your how how will I
Speaker 3: make sense of this or what will I do with this?
Speaker 3: Or wise could determine their how and are whats.
Speaker 2: But we all don't need a near death experience to
Speaker 2: experience spirituality.
Speaker 3: No, that's that's a wonderful point, George. Otherwise we'd all
Speaker 3: be needed to have this. But you know what I
Speaker 3: you know, from being an experience for myself and somebody
Speaker 3: who counseled a lot of people with not just near
Speaker 3: death experiences but transformative experiences, you know you don't need
Speaker 3: to have a trauma to your body and go through
Speaker 3: an end to be spiritual. At our core. We are
Speaker 3: all just unique spiritual beings having human experiences. But you know,
Speaker 3: we had labels assigned to these things, like near death
Speaker 3: experiences or out of body experiences, whatever it is. But
Speaker 3: to me, these are all shake up periods. They just
Speaker 3: kind of rock your current comfort level or your consciousness,
Speaker 3: or you're the way that you're perceiving the world, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, there's like the ground you're standing
Speaker 3: on is a little bit shaken, and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you're able to look at life in a
Speaker 3: new way. And I see that with people who lose
Speaker 3: loved ones, for instance, or a grieving you know, they
Speaker 3: just have this trauma to them or this crisis happened
Speaker 3: to them, and that can put them on a quest
Speaker 3: and maybe look at their lives in a new way
Speaker 3: and so questioned what they were through or maybe explore,
Speaker 3: you know, things in a different way. So there's so
Speaker 3: many different shakeup period that one could have, you know,
Speaker 3: to get them back on the core. But you're right,
Speaker 3: at our core, this is all something inside of us
Speaker 3: and it doesn't require death to bring up the awareness
Speaker 3: of the eternal life.
Speaker 2: You mentioned grief for a moment. How does that fit
Speaker 2: into this, Jacob?
Speaker 3: It ties in a lot. You know, I work, like
Speaker 3: I said, you know, as a you know, psychotherapist, So
Speaker 3: I counsel a lot of my clients who are doing
Speaker 3: with grief. But with my seminars and with the work
Speaker 3: that I do, you know, I found that grief could
Speaker 3: be enhanced with a sense of belief.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: You see, I think a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 3: grief is very much a human thing. It's an emotional thing.
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily a thing of the soul. The soul
Speaker 3: doesn't grief because the soul knows it's interconnectiveness, you know,
Speaker 3: to that loved one, you know, but it's an emotional,
Speaker 3: you know process. But I think for people when they're
Speaker 3: able to understand that their loved one isn't under the
Speaker 3: ground or isn't in a place of you know, eternal nothingness,
Speaker 3: they could have a new appreciation. So it's understanding that
Speaker 3: there is life after death. When people are able to
Speaker 3: have that, you know, that could allow them to find
Speaker 3: a life after their death, a life after their loved
Speaker 3: one's death a little bit easier knowing that their loved
Speaker 3: one is okay. That doesn't mean that from their angle
Speaker 3: that they can't still miss their loved one or go
Speaker 3: through their process, but having a sense of knowing that
Speaker 3: their loved one is still around them could enhance a
Speaker 3: gaily experience. So the term death just means an ending,
Speaker 3: and when you're able to have Nellie and understand or
Speaker 3: loved ones are continuing, you could also it's also helpful
Speaker 3: for people to develop a relationship their own ability to
Speaker 3: communicate with their loved ones and still have that continually
Speaker 3: evolving relationship. Except there's twenty four twenty four to seven
Speaker 3: hour access to our loved ones, maybe doesn't have them
Speaker 3: the physical.
Speaker 2: Jacob, where does reincarnation fit into this.
Speaker 3: Reincarnation you know, is closely tied to this, and then
Speaker 3: a bit we'll talk a little bit about past life
Speaker 3: regression too. But you know, I look at reincarnation it's
Speaker 3: almost kind of like the prior chapters of your book,
Speaker 3: and currently everyone's on their current page. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's it helps you understand yourself a little bit more.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a sports guy, so I'll give an example.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people will talk about current
Speaker 3: NBA players, but they'll they won't know who you know,
Speaker 3: the time greats, you know, Bill Russell, Willis Reed, or
Speaker 3: the genesis of the game, Bob Coozy. There you go.
Speaker 3: And so when you're able to understand who came who
Speaker 3: or what came before, you could have a deeper understanding
Speaker 3: of the game of basketball, let's just say, or an
Speaker 3: understanding the development of the genesis of it. And I
Speaker 3: look at that from a soul level. For us to
Speaker 3: understand ourselves, we could be enhanced by understanding some of
Speaker 3: the other lifetimes that came before this this way, you know,
Speaker 3: as I say, messages are repeated and so those greater
Speaker 3: lessons are embraced. So I think it gives us clues
Speaker 3: to why we're here, what's our purpose, and what we've
Speaker 3: done before we got here, and how some of those
Speaker 3: other lifetimes have parallels to this lifetime, you know. So
Speaker 3: I think that will help people to really write a
Speaker 3: better chapter, to write a better page, you know, in
Speaker 3: this lifetime. Also of seeing themselves as eternal, when you're
Speaker 3: able to understand that we don't die, that we have
Speaker 3: other lifetimes we continue that could you know, I look
Speaker 3: at that is no different than hearing a near death experience,
Speaker 3: and there's evidence to it, you know, that we go
Speaker 3: in and out of lifetimes. If there's an eternal nature
Speaker 3: to your soul, no matter what we experience in other lifetimes.
Speaker 3: But it helps people to have a greater sense of
Speaker 3: self awareness. Now as a therapist, like I said before,
Speaker 3: I believe that there's a point of origin behind almost
Speaker 3: anything that we experience. And so for a lot of
Speaker 3: my clients that I see that are uncertain about why
Speaker 3: they're experiencing you know, let's say their phobias, or they're
Speaker 3: you know difficult that's family dynamics, or they want to
Speaker 3: know a little bit why they're here, you know, it
Speaker 3: could help them to really go into the point of
Speaker 3: origin that may be beyond this lifetime, you know, and
Speaker 3: that why, like I said, sure, you know, could determine
Speaker 3: their how how will I move forward? And what will
Speaker 3: I do? You know that will help them move the
Speaker 3: needle of their lives a little bit more effectively.
Speaker 2: Do you recommend, Jacob, that most people, if not all
Speaker 2: of us, do a past life regression.
Speaker 3: I think it could certainly be a benefit to almost anyone,
Speaker 3: you know. I kind of look at past life regression
Speaker 3: as just the higher mind that we all have. And
Speaker 3: some will call that the subconscious mind, the super conscious mind,
Speaker 3: but we all have a mind that's capable of connecting
Speaker 3: to a reality beyond, you know, just this life. We
Speaker 3: have memories storing that database beyond this. So to think
Speaker 3: anyone can benefit from it, the question is, is you
Speaker 3: know one's intentions? You know, I have people who come
Speaker 3: to me they're looking for just curiosity or entertainment, but
Speaker 3: some who benefit a lot. They've tried every modality, they've tried,
Speaker 3: go into their medical doctors, they've tried going to their therapists,
Speaker 3: and they're still stuck and they're trying to break through.
Speaker 3: And so I look at hypnosis, which passive progression really
Speaker 3: is it's a form of hypnotherapy. You're just really tapping
Speaker 3: in to your higher mind, you know, and going back
Speaker 3: to not only you know, earlier life, but for this life.
Speaker 3: And people who do that, you know, can benefit. But
Speaker 3: I think almost anyone can. The question is is that
Speaker 3: it's a readiness and an openness because hypnosis is not
Speaker 3: mind's control. It's mind liberating, you know. And I think
Speaker 3: a lot of media has a lot of just false
Speaker 3: representations of it that it's just in mind control. But
Speaker 3: in a sense, you know, it actually allows people, you know,
Speaker 3: to really break through in their minds, to tap into
Speaker 3: something beyond their fears, beyond their thoughts and awareness, you
Speaker 3: beyond this lifetime. And so I say it allows people
Speaker 3: to really connect to the you beyond you. And I
Speaker 3: think it could also help people's egos. And by ego,
Speaker 3: I mean it's this box that we develop in this
Speaker 3: lifetime and the sense of characteristics that we really attach
Speaker 3: ourselves to these lifetimes. Our age, our cars, our jobs,
Speaker 3: you know, all these things. And when you have passed
Speaker 3: that regression, you could really break that ego. You could
Speaker 3: recognize that all these things of this life are just
Speaker 3: an experience, but they're not the full totality of who
Speaker 3: we are. These things that we associated meaning to oftentimes
Speaker 3: are fleeting, and we recognize what is real and what
Speaker 3: is a temporary experience. But ultimately, people who have passed
Speaker 3: that regressions recognize that love ultimately last, and all these
Speaker 3: other things that we feel are so valuable, you know,
Speaker 3: really in the grand scheme of things, you know, not
Speaker 3: head important.
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