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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all, Welcome to QLs Classic. This is Questlove.
Speaker 1: We did the Bobby Brown episode I believe in the
Speaker 1: summer of twenty and eighteen. This is right before his
Speaker 1: BET two Parts special came on, way after the new
Speaker 1: edition BT Special came on, And of course his story
Speaker 1: alone bananas, and that's putting it lightly, especially the parts
Speaker 1: about Miss Jackson.
Speaker 3: It was nasty anyway. For me.
Speaker 1: I think it was also important not to just focus
Speaker 1: on the salacious, controversial side to mister Brown, Like there's
Speaker 1: other sides to him that people don't know about. So
Speaker 1: for us, it's like a way to humanize him more
Speaker 1: than he normally is in other interviews. And I think
Speaker 1: we did a pretty good job at covering both of them.
Speaker 1: Uh So, this is the Bobby Brown QLs Classic episode.
Speaker 3: I hope you enjoy it.
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Speaker 3: My name is Questloud, that's what they call me.
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Speaker 6: My name is Fante. Yeah, I'm getting my bread. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: Her name is Sugar. Yeah, I'm gonna show you how. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Just stay in this corner. Yeah and cool it now.
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Speaker 7: Here's one thing. Yeah, lost Bill wants to know. Yeah,
Speaker 7: did you ever get that proton pack?
Speaker 3: Yeah? For your little bro.
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Speaker 8: And Bobby so nice. Yeah, I know I'm gonna love you.
Speaker 8: Yeah for most of the Malays.
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Speaker 3: Her name is Bobby. Yeah, he's just Jess. Yeah, here
Speaker 3: chilling with my man, Quest.
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Speaker 1: I'm up I'm up, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another
Speaker 1: episode of Course Love Supreme.
Speaker 3: I am quest Love. What's up Team Supreme?
Speaker 8: Some fucking awesome awesome Sorry this number.
Speaker 6: One like this is this is why we started this
Speaker 6: podcast exactly for moments like this, straight up, straight up,
Speaker 6: ladies and gentlemen, Our guest.
Speaker 3: Today is simply the Kang King. Hey, yeah, the King Inger.
Speaker 9: Stage, King of Rocksbury, Weird Kango fried Chicken. Yes, oh yeah,
Speaker 9: got that, King of Pregatives.
Speaker 6: I want to thank Bobby Brown for introducing the word
Speaker 6: prerogative to the community.
Speaker 3: I did not know what that word was. That word
Speaker 3: you have to really understand something. I didn't know what
Speaker 3: the word was at first. I even spelled the word
Speaker 3: wrong on the record, and the dictionary corrected it in
Speaker 3: the dictionary. Wow, So they rewrote it like I said
Speaker 3: it and like I spelled it, So it was just
Speaker 3: like it was. It was weird for me. I was
Speaker 3: because it's prerogative. It's not perrogative. It's prerogative. That's the
Speaker 3: that's the proper way to say. But they changed it
Speaker 3: in the dictionary to be King of Webster's Brown. Thank
Speaker 3: you for having me, brother sister. Wait a minute, So
Speaker 3: the way I've been spelling prerogative has been wrong, has
Speaker 3: been wrong.
Speaker 8: But the whole world, the whole world.
Speaker 3: He introduced that word to the world. Who knew what
Speaker 3: the proprocative was? What is that?
Speaker 7: But you know what, it's sure as hell came in
Speaker 7: handy when I was had to take the vocabulary test.
Speaker 7: What's his eight year old boy know what a progative is?
Speaker 3: Bobby Brown? Bobby Brown, So you do. I'm wonderful, man,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just I'm just happy today. Last night we
Speaker 3: had the first viewing, the first premier of the Bobby
Speaker 3: Brown Story, and it just went over really good. The
Speaker 3: acceptance from the people that saw it was it was
Speaker 3: out of here. I'm hearing good things about it. What
Speaker 3: McLean is He's Bobby? Is you? Yeah? Yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: gonna sit down in a little while after this tour
Speaker 3: and just let him be Bobby at home with my
Speaker 3: kids and my wife and let him go out on
Speaker 3: the tours. Yeah, send my check back. What's wrong with it?
Speaker 1: What is the process of especially I mean this being
Speaker 1: your second biopick, Like, is there a certain amount of
Speaker 1: time that you have to spend with the person playing
Speaker 1: you do you guys just talk on the phone a lot,
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 3: Like? How long did it take him to well? With
Speaker 3: with with me and Woody? Me and Woody got to
Speaker 3: know each other a lot. And when he was doing
Speaker 3: the biopick for New Edition, and after that, you know,
Speaker 3: we knew that we couldn't find somebody else that could
Speaker 3: play that role that well, you know, for my movie.
Speaker 3: And we called him up and me and him had
Speaker 3: been hanging and you know, just going to lunch and talking,
Speaker 3: and he developed all of my mannerisms. He hung out
Speaker 3: with my kids, so he knew my kids and my
Speaker 3: young one of my daughters, she's three years old, swears
Speaker 3: that wood he's a boyfriend. So you know, I'm just,
Speaker 3: I'm just, you know, I try to keep them far
Speaker 3: away from each other. But no, wood he's just he's
Speaker 3: just a great kid, and he's very extremely talented. And
Speaker 3: I just thought that, you know what, let's get this
Speaker 3: boy another shot at it and and watch him just
Speaker 3: saw and he's about to he's about to saw.
Speaker 2: Now, did you use the same younger guy from the
Speaker 2: New Yeah?
Speaker 3: I had to. I had to keep it. I had
Speaker 3: to keep it real. And Gully you know, it was
Speaker 3: just it was just meant to be. You know, the
Speaker 3: way they play off of each other, you know, the
Speaker 3: way they get together and they and they talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, the role of being Bobby and and knowing
Speaker 3: the the person knowing me and being able to be
Speaker 3: around me and see how I am as a person.
Speaker 3: You know, I think gave them a lot of confidence
Speaker 3: and a lot of insight on who I am and
Speaker 3: how do you play this strange character. And they pulled
Speaker 3: it off because.
Speaker 8: How does the younger how does the younger Bobby? Who
Speaker 8: does he go to?
Speaker 3: He goes to me, He goes to me and my
Speaker 3: youngest son, not my youngest son, but but to little Bobby.
Speaker 3: You know, isn't that my man from a Stranger things? Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No.
Speaker 3: He's good. Yeah, he's really good. He's really good and
Speaker 3: such a cool little dude. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 3: saw him last night and me and him and Woody
Speaker 3: were just sitting there and I was just congratulating, excuse me,
Speaker 3: on the great job that they had did, because you know,
Speaker 3: they just brought the whole they brought the whole Bobby
Speaker 3: across so well. I mean, and I was just I
Speaker 3: was sitting there and I was just like, I was
Speaker 3: almost in tears and sometimes but then I was like,
Speaker 3: pull it back, pull it back, you know, don't don't
Speaker 3: cry in front of all of these people. So what angle.
Speaker 1: Or approach did you take to tell in your life
Speaker 1: story that was different than the new edition biopicking because
Speaker 1: I know when you first came it was like when
Speaker 1: you first met Ralph or whatever like, So this deals
Speaker 1: with your life and your household in Roxbury.
Speaker 3: Yes, this deals with the first time I experienced tragedy,
Speaker 3: the first time that I lost someone in my life.
Speaker 3: When I was young. I was just a child and
Speaker 3: I had lost my grandmother and right after my grandmother,
Speaker 3: right after a funeral, you know, and me, you know,
Speaker 3: not feeling, not feeling anybody. My best friend Jimmy was
Speaker 3: able to, you know, pick me up and was like,
Speaker 3: come on, let's go have some fun because I was
Speaker 3: just I was done, I mean done. Because she was
Speaker 3: the one that turned me onto music.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: She had every record, every album of every artist in
Speaker 3: her house and she would just let me play all
Speaker 3: of the music that I wanted to and listen to
Speaker 3: everything that I wanted to listen to, and she would
Speaker 3: show me different things to listen to, and then she
Speaker 3: taught me how to play piano. And when she passed,
Speaker 3: it was just like, now where do I now, Where
Speaker 3: do I get this this music from? Where do I
Speaker 3: get this passion that I have in my heart? And
Speaker 3: once I once I lost her and me and Jimmy, Uh,
Speaker 3: it's the first scene. So me and Jimmy, we steal
Speaker 3: some bikes, you know, we go riding on the bikes
Speaker 3: and we pull up to a you know, a house
Speaker 3: party and you know, somebody messes with the bikes that
Speaker 3: we just stole, and he got into a fight with
Speaker 3: this spare guy and the guy, you know, Jimmy was
Speaker 3: whooping his you know, whopping his ass, and somebody threw
Speaker 3: the guy and threw the guy a knife, and the guy,
Speaker 3: one of my boys, kicked him in the back and
Speaker 3: he lunged towards Jimmy and and killed him, stabbed him
Speaker 3: in his heart. And that was the second, the second
Speaker 3: you know, tragedy, and that was the that was the point.
Speaker 3: That was the time when I got to the point
Speaker 3: where it wasn't about mourning or anything like that. It
Speaker 3: was about getting myself out of the situation. That I
Speaker 3: was in getting my family out of the projects, getting
Speaker 3: my family to better, better surroundings. And that's when I
Speaker 3: created a new addition and from that point it was
Speaker 3: all history. So you officially created Like, were you the
Speaker 3: the epicenter and the one that gathered them? Yes? Yes.
Speaker 3: I asked Michael Bivens that he wanted to in my
Speaker 3: group because I had been doing talent shows by myself,
Speaker 3: so I knew all of them. We all stayed on
Speaker 3: different sides of the projects. So I talked to Michael,
Speaker 3: you know, asked him did he want to be in
Speaker 3: a group with me. He said, you know, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: as long as it don't interfere with my basketball. But
Speaker 3: it did. And then we asked Ricky and Ricky was
Speaker 3: like he was totally down. And Ricky said, you know,
Speaker 3: I know this kid that could really sing, that could
Speaker 3: really sing. And I was saying to him, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be doing most of the vocals. I'm gonna be,
Speaker 3: you know, the singer, the lead singer. And when I
Speaker 3: heard Ralph singing, I just lost it. I was like, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, that's cool. Can he could do the songs?
Speaker 3: So I eventually put myself in the background a little bit.
Speaker 3: You know, I was okay. I was okay with it
Speaker 3: because he sounded too much like Michael Jackson, and it
Speaker 3: was just like, you know, this is this, this is
Speaker 3: how we're going to get out of here. We're going
Speaker 3: to get out of here by not imitating but being
Speaker 3: the second coming of uh of the finest boy band
Speaker 3: ever in the history, which is the Jackson's, and us
Speaker 3: coming behind them was just everything. Then we met Ronnie
Speaker 3: from our choreographer, Brooke Payne. How did you How did
Speaker 3: you who officially met Brooke Payne? Me, Michael and Ricky. Yeah, me,
Speaker 3: Michael and Ricky went up to him and we was like,
Speaker 3: you know, we was like, we want you, we want
Speaker 3: you to well. Ralph was there also. We was like,
Speaker 3: we want you to check us out. We want you
Speaker 3: to manage us, because he was managing so many groups
Speaker 3: and in our neighborhood. The Untouchables transitions, you know, when
Speaker 3: these boys were shop, I mean were they all singing, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they were singing and dancing and they were just they
Speaker 3: was a lot older than we were, real quick the transitions.
Speaker 7: I was reading your book and I noticed that and
Speaker 7: I believe BIV was in that group, right, No, he
Speaker 7: was involved with them another group called Transitions. Later on,
Speaker 7: I was wondering if it was the same crew.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: No, me and me and BIV worked with a group.
Speaker 3: I forget the name of him, but you know, me
Speaker 3: and Mike danced with this group and.
Speaker 2: We uh.
Speaker 3: When we wanted to leave, they didn't. They wouldn't let
Speaker 3: us leave. So we broke in the house and we
Speaker 3: stole the truth. We broke in the house and stole
Speaker 3: all the trophies that we had won because they wouldn't
Speaker 3: let us take the trophy trophies home with us. So
Speaker 3: we knew we were you know, the reason they want
Speaker 3: those trophies. So they wouldn't let us get the trophies.
Speaker 3: So we broke in the house and took the trophies
Speaker 3: and Mike would let let me have it for a
Speaker 3: week and give it to him and he'd keep it
Speaker 3: at his house for a week. And one of them
Speaker 3: came to you, like, someone talk about trophies. Do you
Speaker 3: know who did it? Nope, Okay, now they didn't. They
Speaker 3: didn't even think. They didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1: I hear a lot about what life was like in Roxbury,
Speaker 1: you know, but usually it's like yo, man, I'll mess
Speaker 1: with Roxbury.
Speaker 3: But what was Roxbury the toughest of the tough like?
Speaker 3: Was that?
Speaker 1: What was it like growing up in a city, especially
Speaker 1: with racial tensions were so high between black and white
Speaker 1: people up there and badly high.
Speaker 3: You know, we couldn't go in their neighborhood at all.
Speaker 3: We couldn't go in South Boston without being jumped or
Speaker 3: bricked or you know, and we had to pass through
Speaker 3: there to get to another project, which which was Columbia Point,
Speaker 3: which most of our most of our people that lived
Speaker 3: in Orchard Park had some family in Colombia Point. So
Speaker 3: it was hard to get through get through South Boston
Speaker 3: to get to Columbia Point. Columbia Point was like where
Speaker 3: the beach was, and you know, all of that type
Speaker 3: of stuff, the clam digging and fishing and all of that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was, it was, it was. It was
Speaker 3: just you know, it's just, I don't know, Boston is
Speaker 3: so diverse, but it's it's still probably the most prejudiced city, yeah,
Speaker 3: in this country still even still even still, but you know,
Speaker 3: since since hip hop has come along, they basically tried
Speaker 3: to be us. You know, and I think that's what
Speaker 3: they was mad about before, because they wanted to be
Speaker 3: us and just didn't have the color for you know,
Speaker 3: the connection is Boston still home for you or you're
Speaker 3: based out here now. I'm based in Los Angeles Woodland
Speaker 3: Hills with my family, and I'm very happy I'm not
Speaker 3: moving back to the East Coast. That cold does not
Speaker 3: agree with me at all at all, not at all.
Speaker 3: Speak on at least with Brooke Payning.
Speaker 1: What I always loved about you guys was that, you know,
Speaker 1: you guys were the fine line between what the Temptations represented,
Speaker 1: but you were also very much what hip hop.
Speaker 3: Was about to be.
Speaker 1: So it was almost like you guys were a thin
Speaker 1: line between Temptations and what Utfo was doing with Houdini
Speaker 1: those early days. But how how many like painstaking hours
Speaker 1: of practice did oh man.
Speaker 3: That take? Oh my god, Let's see. We would get
Speaker 3: out of school like three o'clock, have to be at
Speaker 3: rehearsals by four. We had to go home, do our
Speaker 3: homework and stuff and make it to rehearsals and don't
Speaker 3: be late because you know you're doing push ups or
Speaker 3: you're doing sit ups, or you're you know, you're running
Speaker 3: around the building. You know, Yes, basically that's how it was.
Speaker 3: But we would respected that. Yeah, I mean the group,
Speaker 3: if you made me no, it was it was. It
Speaker 3: was what we felt that he let us know what
Speaker 3: was needed for us to you know, be one of
Speaker 3: the top notch groups. Was you know, to perfect our craft.
Speaker 3: If we perfected our craft, there's nobody that could stop us.
Speaker 3: And that's how we looked at it. That you know,
Speaker 3: all of the all of the you know, long nights
Speaker 3: and and and long days of just dancing and dancing
Speaker 3: and not singing. He wouldn't want you to sing yet,
Speaker 3: but just dancing, like four hours of just straight dancing,
Speaker 3: doing the steps within without the music, and then there'll
Speaker 3: be two hours of us singing, you know, and we
Speaker 3: would be singing, you know, just like regular R and
Speaker 3: B songs. You know, we didn't have music, our own
Speaker 3: music at this point, so we were singing, you know,
Speaker 3: like holding on. Yeah, we got the INTERVIEWE. He was
Speaker 3: so happy about that we were singing, that we were
Speaker 3: singing Jackson songs. We were doing like the medley of
Speaker 3: you know, the Jackson Medley. We would do that like
Speaker 3: maybe four times in a row, just do that whole
Speaker 3: thing four times in a row, and then we would
Speaker 3: just you know, work on other songs, just any song
Speaker 3: that was out there that was popular. We would make
Speaker 3: a routine to it, you know, because we were still
Speaker 3: doing talent shows. But we got we got kicked out
Speaker 3: of doing talent shows because we kept winning. So we
Speaker 3: had to stop being we had to stop being special
Speaker 3: guests of the talent show, like it's a talent show
Speaker 3: with special guests New Edition. Were there were there any
Speaker 3: other notable.
Speaker 1: Uh Boston acts that eventually made it that were in
Speaker 1: no these talent shows, like nobody from liked the Planet
Speaker 1: Patrol or any any of those.
Speaker 3: Guys No Planet Patrol. They were older and all of that.
Speaker 3: But that was Maurice's brothers. But when we when we
Speaker 3: when we lost the competition, we lost the first the
Speaker 3: first competition we ever lost was the Hollywood Talent Night.
Speaker 3: And this was for a recording contract. We were going
Speaker 3: to be able to go into the studio and record
Speaker 3: a record with Marie Starr. And we lost. We lost
Speaker 3: to these these two two goofy goofy rappers and their
Speaker 3: name was New York Rappers. Now that that was their name.
Speaker 3: There was the New York. There was the New York Rappers,
Speaker 3: but they was from Mattapen in Boston. Neither one of
Speaker 3: them had been out of Boston or ever been to
Speaker 3: New York. But they just called themselves the New York Rappers.
Speaker 3: But they beat us, and I haven't heard a peep
Speaker 3: out of them yet. It was rigged. It was really
Speaker 3: they they did it. They were good. No, that was
Speaker 3: the whole thing. They wasn't even doing any and for
Speaker 3: them to beat us, we were just like what. Like
Speaker 3: Maurice came over to us and he was like, he
Speaker 3: was like, I'm just this is just because I want
Speaker 3: to sign y'all. I don't want this other label to
Speaker 3: get y'all. He wanted to record and signed to his label.
Speaker 3: So we were just like, okay, Maurice just put us
Speaker 3: in the studio. Then that Marie's always dressed like that,
Speaker 3: because I've only seen that. The Colonel Prince, how was
Speaker 3: he he? That was him all the time, That was
Speaker 3: him all the time.
Speaker 2: Wow, was he doing old to somebody or he was
Speaker 2: just was he doing old to somebody like his grandpapa
Speaker 2: used to dress like that or not?
Speaker 3: I don't know. He just was that was his foule.
Speaker 3: You know that was just Maurice. What was what was
Speaker 3: Michael Johnson's relation? What was this? Michael Johnson is Marie
Speaker 3: Star's brother. Okay, so together they worked together.
Speaker 1: Because I got admit, when y'all gave a shout out
Speaker 1: on the Candy Girl twelve inch, I thought it was
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: I knew it, knew Michael. I knew it.
Speaker 1: Hey real quick, you said you said that at one
Speaker 1: point James Brown had pulled you up on stage.
Speaker 3: Yes, when I was, when I was younger, I was
Speaker 3: I must have been like seven seven, yeah, about seven
Speaker 3: six or seven. And my mom she knew I liked
Speaker 3: James Brown, and she brought me to the place called
Speaker 3: the Sugar Shack where he was he was performing. Of
Speaker 3: course she snuck me was at your spot. Oh, I
Speaker 3: founded that at the same time. She snuck me in there.
Speaker 3: And James is on stage and he's doing his thing,
Speaker 3: and my mother just put me on the stage and
Speaker 3: I just started cancing. He stopped his band. He was like,
Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, hold on, come out, let me
Speaker 3: see you do that. And he did did his thing,
Speaker 3: and I did the same thing. Right then he did
Speaker 3: something else and I did that, and he was just
Speaker 3: he was in all and I was just looking up
Speaker 3: at this man like, man, I'm gonna be just like
Speaker 3: you one day. One day I'm out. One day I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be just like you did your pasitive across again.
Speaker 3: After that, Yes, yes, a few times. We talked a
Speaker 3: few times because we both were living in Georgia at
Speaker 3: the time and we both did it. We did this
Speaker 3: one concert at the at the Big Field. It's a
Speaker 3: big field that I forget the name of it. It's
Speaker 3: the baseball field where the Braves pay. So we did
Speaker 3: a concert there. It was a big benefit concert and
Speaker 3: I was able to, you know, sit down and talk
Speaker 3: to talk to him at that time, and you know,
Speaker 3: I was. He told me just go stand on the
Speaker 3: side of stage and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I'm standing on the side of the stage and I'm
Speaker 3: just watching, just watching it. And I told him about
Speaker 3: the time in Boston when I was younger, and I said,
Speaker 3: do you remember me?
Speaker 10: He was like, I had a lot of people come
Speaker 10: on my stage, but you know, I don't know if
Speaker 10: I remember you, but I remember this one kid, one
Speaker 10: kid that could do all the dance steps.
Speaker 3: That I was. I was like, that's me.
Speaker 2: So did you always have this confidence? Like you said,
Speaker 2: seven years old, your mother said go ahead, and you
Speaker 2: was just, oh, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah I was. I've never been shy about anything. I
Speaker 3: just think, you know, why be shy when you can
Speaker 3: just be yourself, you know, and just let it go.
Speaker 3: You know, there's no reason to hold anything that God
Speaker 3: has given you back. Yeah, we had we had a babyface.
Speaker 3: He was on the show a while back and he
Speaker 3: said about you specifically. He was like, man, I don't
Speaker 3: seen a lot of acts and I'll produce on everybody,
Speaker 3: and he compared you.
Speaker 6: He was like, man, Bobby was like a prize fighter.
Speaker 6: He was like, he said, Bob will come out. He
Speaker 6: was like he was relentless on stage. That was I mean,
Speaker 6: that was him talking about you, just your your work
Speaker 6: ethicing on stage. He said, man, Bob took no prisoners.
Speaker 6: I don't play I don't play with that. I do
Speaker 6: not play with that.
Speaker 3: When it comes to being our stage, a whole total
Speaker 3: different person.
Speaker 2: That's gonna ask, So your solo career, how did that translate?
Speaker 2: Like all that rehearsals that you used to do when
Speaker 2: you was a little boy and whatnot. What was the
Speaker 2: difference in the rehearsals process for you now that you
Speaker 2: had like your own dancers and whatnot, Like were you
Speaker 2: I haven't had.
Speaker 3: And your dances? What were their names? It was pop?
Speaker 3: So what was what was always part and so and so, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what was called. That was I was like, what
Speaker 3: was the name? I didn't know? So I didn't Black
Speaker 3: Mysteries unlocked right here Bobby's dance and so, okay, did you.
Speaker 8: Turn into in that way?
Speaker 3: Did you way with your yes and no at the
Speaker 3: same time, because you know, I mean when we was
Speaker 3: rehearsing with Brooke, I mean we had to rehearse in
Speaker 3: a really hot, smoke filled room because Brooks chained smoked
Speaker 3: Newports during our whole rehearsal. So it was just like
Speaker 3: and it was like ninety degrees up in there, so
Speaker 3: we were sweating and all we was doing was breathing
Speaker 3: in Newports. And it's a shot that only me and
Speaker 3: Ralph turned out to be smokers. Nobody else but me
Speaker 3: and Ralph turned out, you know, to stop smoking after
Speaker 3: you know, several years of just being in the room
Speaker 3: like hand inhaling all of that. So you know, other
Speaker 3: than that, you know, Brooke was always just He's a
Speaker 3: stickler for you know, perfection. With my guys, I was
Speaker 3: just I was the type to tell them to dance loose,
Speaker 3: but dance but dance tight. You know, always be in
Speaker 3: formation and follow me, you know, because I might do something.
Speaker 3: I might do something slick and out of the step
Speaker 3: of what the actual step is, and I need you
Speaker 3: all to remember it so the next show they will
Speaker 3: remember the slick, build on and build on and build on.
Speaker 3: So it just got it just started growing, and we
Speaker 3: got closer, and it was just we were able to
Speaker 3: read each other when we were on stage, and that
Speaker 3: was a good part. Then we got Mecca and the
Speaker 3: La Connection dancers, which were you know, uh, four girls
Speaker 3: from New York, four girls from l A and we
Speaker 3: put them together. It was a lot of fights though,
Speaker 3: it was like the Bloods and the Cribs. Yeah, Leslie
Speaker 3: was the big less on Facebook occasion.
Speaker 2: Can you just tell me this is always a mystery
Speaker 2: to me. Who was the girl who was always in
Speaker 2: the videos with the short cut, slender brown skin. But
Speaker 2: she was in my prerogative and she had the short hair.
Speaker 8: She was planked.
Speaker 3: Oh that's Cloudsier, Okay, because you used to see her.
Speaker 8: She had an error. I felt like, huh, I felt
Speaker 8: like she had an era like she was she.
Speaker 3: Videos after that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm sure she had an aura.
Speaker 11: But I just I was about to, you know, but
Speaker 11: I hold it back back, you know, but you know,
Speaker 11: you did skip a decade.
Speaker 8: So I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: My mind fast forward. You know, it's good. It's all good.
Speaker 1: So for me, even even though I know what what
Speaker 1: the initial by a pic had depicted, but how well,
Speaker 1: what I want to do is, first of all, what
Speaker 1: was the what's the term he used with Randy? Oh,
Speaker 1: the click? What was the what was as far as
Speaker 1: like your your new addition situation? Who were the clicks?
Speaker 1: Like who was who was your friend in the band
Speaker 1: that you were close to?
Speaker 3: We were all all clicks at certain times, you know,
Speaker 3: at certain times of the day, I would be with
Speaker 3: like Ronnie, you know, playing cards or something like that.
Speaker 3: Then there was certain times that me and Ralph would
Speaker 3: you know, be kicking it and just doing what we do,
Speaker 3: you know, goofing off and stuff like that, going to
Speaker 3: buy water guns and you know, spraying everybody on the tour.
Speaker 3: Then it was me and Mike, who's the who's the thinker.
Speaker 3: He's like a big think tank. So you know, I'd
Speaker 3: like to pick his brain every now and then. You know,
Speaker 3: and then Ricky, Ricky's just Ricky is just Ricky. You know,
Speaker 3: you just get around Ricky and Ricky just he's quiet.
Speaker 3: If you say something, he'll agree with you. And that's
Speaker 3: just how Ricky is. Ricky agrees with, you know, most
Speaker 3: of the things that everybody says. But he's super intelligent.
Speaker 3: He knows what's right and what's wrong. And that's where
Speaker 3: you that's who you go to to tell if there's
Speaker 3: three against two and a vote, you go to Ricky,
Speaker 3: and he's a swing vote. Yeah, he's a swing vote.
Speaker 3: You know, you got to get to him. Ronnie always
Speaker 3: seemed to just be so cool man. He's one of
Speaker 3: the most laid back dudes in the world. I'm so
Speaker 3: proud of him. He just had twins. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just really proud of him. He knows,
Speaker 3: he knows what he wants, and he knows how to
Speaker 3: go get it. You know, he's he's bought so much
Speaker 3: property in Detroit that is incredible.
Speaker 8: I mean, then he's starting Atlanta and he moves he's
Speaker 8: now moving to.
Speaker 3: He started it, he started his his his business in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: But he's yes buying, buying land in different places. And
Speaker 3: I commend him because Detroit is about to get a
Speaker 3: whole big facelift. You know, Japanese, Chinese or I don't know,
Speaker 3: the Japanese are going into. Japanese put like ten billion
Speaker 3: dollars into already Detroit already, and it's like build industries,
Speaker 3: build industries, you know, the Forward Company, all of that,
Speaker 3: all of that's being rebuilt up and there'll be more
Speaker 3: jobs and the homes will shoot up. You know, it's
Speaker 3: almost about to be. So I recommend that for most
Speaker 3: people out there listening, go buy you some property. Go
Speaker 3: buy you some property in Detroit and watch it and
Speaker 3: just sit on it for a little while.
Speaker 8: Out rent the community, you know. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: About gentrification, havitable, It is coming a little at what
Speaker 3: they're selling them houses like five thousand dollars.
Speaker 8: Flip those.
Speaker 3: It's going to be. That's the name of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's business. Let's call it Ronnie right now.
Speaker 1: So when when you guys first started touring and traveling, HM,
Speaker 1: I first saw you guys at I think you're a
Speaker 1: valid for it's music fair. Okay, you did a bunch
Speaker 1: of like these small venues where uh, where the stage
Speaker 1: is always in the center or whatever. I forget, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you're this was? I think there's like eighty three
Speaker 1: eighty four. But how how did that affect you as
Speaker 1: far as like finally making it out of out of
Speaker 1: Boston and did you feel like, Okay, we finally made
Speaker 1: it or yeah, probably so.
Speaker 3: We used to before before Candy Girl became a number
Speaker 3: one record, we would come to New York. We would
Speaker 3: go to New York and we would perform like five
Speaker 3: shows a night. We would play all five bottles, and
Speaker 3: we would start at like eleven at night and we
Speaker 3: would just go to each We used to go to
Speaker 3: each club or each roller skating rin and just play
Speaker 3: from from eleven o'clock all the way to six that morning.
Speaker 3: We will get in We would finally get in bed
Speaker 3: by six that morning and get some rest and do
Speaker 3: it again on Saturday. And then Sunday we would get
Speaker 3: all into this station wag excuse me, the station wagon
Speaker 3: and we would drive back to Boston. How old are
Speaker 3: you at this time? Like fourteen fifteen? Couldn't even drive
Speaker 3: it fourteen damn your homework done in the car. So
Speaker 3: it was required, like tutors and all that stuff. Tutors
Speaker 3: were required. My mom wasn't letting me not, you know,
Speaker 3: get my education. She didn't play that. Yo.
Speaker 2: The way that they they played your moms out in
Speaker 2: the movie amazing.
Speaker 3: Was this where do you see this? The same? Just
Speaker 3: the same. Yes, Sandy McCree was Sandy McCree. And we
Speaker 3: have T. K. Carter playing my father whow where we
Speaker 3: bound him? But he is playing the hell out of
Speaker 3: my father and he knew my father, so you know,
Speaker 3: it was just like it was just like so great
Speaker 3: that he came to that that try out for the movie.
Speaker 3: And when they told us it was T. K. Carter,
Speaker 3: I was like, that's him because I was going I
Speaker 3: was going for a John Witherspoon or somebody like that.
Speaker 3: I was going for John Witherspoon because my father was hilarious.
Speaker 3: I mean just just hilarious. He would do the whole
Speaker 3: coordinate thing. He loved the dress. You know, he was
Speaker 3: just that man. He was just that man that kept
Speaker 3: everybody laughing in the house. Everybody that met my father
Speaker 3: called them pops. Everybody everybody in the projects just called
Speaker 3: them pops.
Speaker 6: When you started working on your first album on King
Speaker 6: of Stage, my man Lavel we were talking off Mike
Speaker 6: Homie Lavell Molten, he's a basketball coach at my alma mater.
Speaker 6: He was telling me that you used to pass out.
Speaker 6: He was passing out tapes like back in the hood.
Speaker 6: Like even though what was that like, man, it was
Speaker 6: tapes in some other things. Anyway, it wasn't just tapes.
Speaker 6: Probably tapes had packages in there.
Speaker 3: But that that was the time when you know, I
Speaker 3: was put out a new addition, and you know, I
Speaker 3: had one chance to you know, do it again. I
Speaker 3: never gave up on myself, but at the same time,
Speaker 3: the only way for me to survive at that time
Speaker 3: was to sell drugs and do what I had to
Speaker 3: do to you know, keep my sanity, you know, from
Speaker 3: not making the little bit of money that we was
Speaker 3: making on the tours. I had to find a way
Speaker 3: to make money to take care of my baby boy.
Speaker 3: I had a baby boy, so I had to you know,
Speaker 3: have some type of income. And yeah, but when Girlfriend
Speaker 3: hit and it was a number one record and I
Speaker 3: was able to tour and stuff, and that just opened
Speaker 3: it opened the door up for me to be able
Speaker 3: to do another record, and then Little Solace Junr introduced
Speaker 3: me to Kenny Babyface Edmonds in La Reid and I
Speaker 3: just was like what. And when you see the movie
Speaker 3: you'll know why I said what, because they were they
Speaker 3: was yeah, they was just totally dress wrong, you know,
Speaker 3: and you know the thing all right hair, they thought makeup,
Speaker 3: and it was just like I was like, dude, I
Speaker 3: was like, come in, guys, right, come in, man, come in,
Speaker 3: please please tell me I don't have to work with them.
Speaker 1: With I know I know where you were trying to
Speaker 1: go because when I purchased King of Stage, I knew
Speaker 1: it's worried that even though I didn't know what a
Speaker 1: new Jack swing was in nineteen eighty six, because technically
Speaker 1: where they had been it yet, right, I kind of
Speaker 1: knew what you were going for because you know, you
Speaker 1: were like be boxing on some of the songs that
Speaker 1: Larry Black, you know, but it was how hard I
Speaker 1: can tell where you.
Speaker 3: Were trying to go with it.
Speaker 1: But either technology or maybe Teddy just had a better
Speaker 1: vision on how to make that shit bund right. So,
Speaker 1: especially like with the title cut, which I thought the
Speaker 1: title cut was like, Okay, that's the closest thing to
Speaker 1: a Houdini or a run DMC sound. Did it ever
Speaker 1: occur to you to ask U who produced yeah, Larry Smith?
Speaker 1: Did it ever occur to you to go to Larry Smith?
Speaker 3: Who you know?
Speaker 1: His work with Houdini and run DMC was like the
Speaker 1: closest thing to an R and B hip hop mess
Speaker 1: that there was Like, did you get a choice in
Speaker 1: saying I want to work with them?
Speaker 3: Them them? Or was Lou Silace just like Nope, you
Speaker 3: can know Black Lou Silas was like this. He was.
Speaker 3: He was basically, if you work with these people, then
Speaker 3: you could work with whoever you wanted to work with.
Speaker 3: And that's what he told me about working with La
Speaker 3: and Face. Okay, so my first my first person, I said.
Speaker 3: I told him, I said, well, I gotta go fly
Speaker 3: to New York and I got to work with Teddy Riley.
Speaker 3: How did you know about Teddy? Because Teddy meuse he
Speaker 3: was he was in a boys group kids kids will
Speaker 3: work and he used to just I used to see
Speaker 3: him all the time walking with this cassio key and
Speaker 3: he used to always I would stop him at Raise
Speaker 3: Pizza right there fifty seven just stop him and just
Speaker 3: be listening to some of the grooves he had, and
Speaker 3: it was just like it was just meant to be,
Speaker 3: you know. And he was telling me he was starting
Speaker 3: up a new group called Guy and you know, he
Speaker 3: had just finished working with this this guy called Keith
Speaker 3: Sweat and he played me that and I was like, okay.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I got some tracks that I
Speaker 3: want you to hear. And I had this one baseline
Speaker 3: that I couldn't I couldn't, couldn't do anything with and
Speaker 3: it was Prerogatives baseline. And Teddy came with this groove man,
Speaker 3: that was just it just it just fits so perfectly.
Speaker 3: And then I met Aaron and me and Aaron just
Speaker 3: just click like this, Yeah, Aaron Hall, we just clicked.
Speaker 3: I went on the subway for the first time in
Speaker 3: New York City with him to Brooklyn and we basically
Speaker 3: wrote the lyrics to Prerogative on that subway. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: I didn't know, though thought y'all did.
Speaker 8: I don't want to seem stupid, But.
Speaker 3: Jene Griffin came and messed that up right. Yeah, took
Speaker 3: all of the credit on the record. Because Teddy was
Speaker 3: in a litigation with I guess two people who whoever
Speaker 3: he had signed He had signed a production deal with somebody,
Speaker 3: and Jeene Griffin put it under his name so that
Speaker 3: Teddy can receive something, you know, from prerogative. And then
Speaker 3: Teddy got his you know, publishing and all of this
Speaker 3: stuff back. So you know, Jean did a great thing
Speaker 3: for him. You know, he held he held him down
Speaker 3: and he helped him, you know, you know, be the
Speaker 3: businessman that he is. Oh. I always thought it was
Speaker 3: a thing where he just jack Yes, No, he didn't
Speaker 3: jock him. He didn't jock him. He was He was
Speaker 3: very much taken care of Teddy as well as he
Speaker 3: possibly could.
Speaker 1: I mean, knowing no one can planned for the phenomenon
Speaker 1: that was, don't be cruel, like nobody saw it coming
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. But did you did you really feel
Speaker 1: as though because even in my mind, like I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking like, okay, there's Michael, there's Prince, no one else,
Speaker 1: and you know, I just thinking like everyone else is underly,
Speaker 1: But it's suddenly like the people that you grow up
Speaker 1: idolizing now you're pushing them to the side a little bit.
Speaker 3: So what was that transition? Like, Like, have you ever
Speaker 3: personally met Michael Jackson and had interaction. What was that like?
Speaker 5: It was?
Speaker 3: It was? It was great. I met him when I
Speaker 3: was with the new audition. He invited a new addition
Speaker 3: to his home and we hung out with him the
Speaker 3: whole day. I mean, it was just it was just crazy.
Speaker 3: All the book and animals. What can you tell the
Speaker 3: story about from the book about him chasing LaToya and
Speaker 3: jennit around? Yeah, wait, what happened? Well, we were all
Speaker 3: running around and we were chasing We were just running
Speaker 3: around and uh, LaToya was, you know, standing somewhere and
Speaker 3: he smacked her on her ass and all of us
Speaker 3: was like, all of us was like, oh, I want
Speaker 3: to smack her, but we didn't. We didn't smack her
Speaker 3: ass like he did. But it was just Oh my god,
Speaker 3: just to be and and you know, I had always
Speaker 3: had a crush on Janet, so it was just like
Speaker 3: just to be in the same room with her at
Speaker 3: that time was you know, it was, oh my god,
Speaker 3: She's standing right next to me. She feel the same
Speaker 3: way she spoke to me. Matter like last week almost
Speaker 3: passed out man. Yeah, well you'll see some scenes in
Speaker 3: my movie about Janet. So what was doing feel different?
Speaker 3: About it.
Speaker 6: Oh, no spoilers. What was you in relationship? Like in
Speaker 6: the studio, man, Like, how did y'all vibe off each other?
Speaker 3: We bobbed really well off each other. You know. It
Speaker 3: wasn't no rush thing. We knew that when we had
Speaker 3: something hot. We knew what we had and we would
Speaker 3: take our time and take our time and get it,
Speaker 3: get it down, get it down perfectly, and then we
Speaker 3: go out, you know, we'll go eat or you know,
Speaker 3: just go chill out, playpool, you know. And then but
Speaker 3: the first time, the first time with Prerogative, he was
Speaker 3: living in the projects. So we in Harlem in the
Speaker 3: projects on the first floor, and you know, the booth
Speaker 3: was a bathroom, you know. So we literally did it,
Speaker 3: and we did and we did. Prerogative recorded it in
Speaker 3: the bathroom in his apartment. That's where we did the vocals.
Speaker 3: What all of them? What did y'all what we all
Speaker 3: recording on like a four track or was six sixteen tracks?
Speaker 3: M yeah, I know his set up was ate that thing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: in the So the vocal we hear today was the
Speaker 3: vocal that you cut. We cut in the in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: So in your mind, whenever you hear those vocals from
Speaker 1: that record you're just thinking of, like there's tooth brush, toothpaste.
Speaker 3: Close up, close up. They don't make close up anymore.
Speaker 3: I don't know that hot ass just hot mouth fans
Speaker 3: close up Dollar General.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: The one thing I remember, you know, about recording that
Speaker 3: song was was just just you know, the kinship you know,
Speaker 3: between me, Aaron him, Big Bub was even there, you know.
Speaker 3: So it was a bunch of singers and you know,
Speaker 3: a bunch of people that love music and love being
Speaker 3: a part of you know, what music was going to become,
Speaker 3: and it was just fun to just be around it,
Speaker 3: you know, and all of us, all of us out
Speaker 3: there giving one hundred and ten percent, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to make it out. I knew that Aaron was a singer,
Speaker 3: but I read somewhere was Aaron a keyboard player as well?
Speaker 3: Eric Can played the piano like yeah, like what's his name?
Speaker 3: With all the jewry wait Erican played the piano like Liberaci,
Speaker 3: I mean, play the piano play You were tracked? You
Speaker 3: did you track the majority of the album in New
Speaker 3: York City? No, the majority of the album was done
Speaker 3: here in silver Lake, Okay, with La and Face and
Speaker 3: me and Teddy did our stuff over there in New York,
Speaker 3: and then I I did some more stuff in the
Speaker 3: Bay Area and then you know, just mostly la though.
Speaker 7: You guys recorded forty songs for the album. Yeah, how
Speaker 7: many of them? Like, did you ever revisit any of
Speaker 7: them later on?
Speaker 3: Or yeah? I still have them in my garage actually, yeah,
Speaker 3: the masters in my garage. Yes, I don't know yet.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think, you know, I'm let my
Speaker 3: son listen to a bunch of them and see what
Speaker 3: he likes and see how you know, he feels about
Speaker 3: him because he's recording his album right now. So so
Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to, you know, helping both of
Speaker 3: my oldest son and my middle son are both you know,
Speaker 3: recording out us. So you know, I'm just trying to
Speaker 3: lay back and let them do what they do. And
Speaker 3: then when I see him, you know, going straight pull
Speaker 3: a coat and you know.
Speaker 6: What's because I feel like most of us, like, what
Speaker 6: was the what was the workflow, like you talk about
Speaker 6: you and Teddy's vibe, what was the difference with Elien Face?
Speaker 3: What were they like in the studio, like in y'all sessions.
Speaker 3: Because of the person that I am they have to
Speaker 3: go with the flow. They had to go with how
Speaker 3: I was this is Bobby Brown session. Wow, you mean
Speaker 3: like I'll be there, you know there there three means
Speaker 3: that I'll be there.
Speaker 8: Always, no matter who you was working with. They had
Speaker 8: to adjust.
Speaker 3: But yeah, basically because you know, it was just sometimes
Speaker 3: I'm late. I mean sometimes you gottes. But but but
Speaker 3: I've learned a new way of living and being late
Speaker 3: is not cool. You know, you need to be on
Speaker 3: time so that you can get your work done and
Speaker 3: be able to do Stop looking at you, stop looking
Speaker 3: at question, you're a little late, looking at it in
Speaker 3: my direction? Whatever.
Speaker 6: Steve once once Don't be Crewe became and the album
Speaker 6: once it becomes that just this months everywhere?
Speaker 3: What how did your life change? Then? What what happens?
Speaker 3: Oh boy? I started touring a lot more. Of course,
Speaker 3: I was torn with heart the Heartbreak tour. I was
Speaker 3: touring with them. I was opening up for I'll Be
Speaker 3: Sure and then Don't Be Crew hit and Prerogative hit
Speaker 3: and we have to switch. And then you know, of course,
Speaker 3: you know, stopped having problems because you know, New Edition
Speaker 3: was you know, kind of hating on me because of
Speaker 3: the success of don't be Crewe, and they didn't want
Speaker 3: me to, you know, film the Roney video on that tour.
Speaker 3: So I told him, Okay, well if they if they,
Speaker 3: if they, if they can Roney, I'll have them film
Speaker 3: y'all show. So I paid for the cameras to film
Speaker 3: the show. And so then I was like I talked
Speaker 3: to Al Hayman, who was the promoter, and I was like,
Speaker 3: that keeps coming up. I was like, dude, I need
Speaker 3: my own tour. I got to go out on my
Speaker 3: own tour. And he said okay. So we went and
Speaker 3: got Lavert and Karen White and we went out and
Speaker 3: just and just smashed, and we toured for over three
Speaker 3: years with that album.
Speaker 7: My sister saw a heartbreak tour and Don't Be Cruel
Speaker 7: tour without me, and I still hate them for it.
Speaker 1: Having technically yet to see the biopic. And you address
Speaker 1: it in the Rooney video. But what was the situation
Speaker 1: with my memories, Foggy? What what arena had a problem with?
Speaker 1: Are you dancing?
Speaker 3: Or was Georgia Georgia. I guess they had heard about,
Speaker 3: you know, my my stage show, but they still you know,
Speaker 3: wanted me to come to Georgia. The police had told
Speaker 3: me right before the concert, no sexual indoors, no getting
Speaker 3: close to the girls. Can't bring girls up on your stage.
Speaker 3: We don't want We don't want to see you pelvic
Speaker 3: thrusting or anything. So they didn't want Bobby Brown. How
Speaker 3: do they know it was coming? Because it's like you've yet.
Speaker 3: They had heard the word had been spreading, you know,
Speaker 3: throughout the country on how I performed. That's why they
Speaker 3: called me bad boy.
Speaker 8: Okay, pumped really hard. I remember you remember watching like I.
Speaker 5: Did.
Speaker 3: Used to get in trouble for you know, Brown, pilvoc
Speaker 3: thrust for me, it got me in trouble. In fourth grade.
Speaker 6: We were doing a talent show and I was gonna
Speaker 6: dance and I opened up with four pervit threast.
Speaker 3: It was over just like down over here. It was
Speaker 3: well fourth grade. Yeah, it was about the same for
Speaker 3: me too. So my little nine year old is pumping down.
Speaker 3: Is it weird for you? Stop?
Speaker 1: Is it weird for your kids to discover that you're
Speaker 1: not dad? You're that guy I'm seeing on television. How
Speaker 1: did they discover?
Speaker 3: No, they basically know. I try to show them as
Speaker 3: much as possible about me. Yeah, trying to show my son,
Speaker 3: my nine year old Cassius. He's a he's a dancer himself.
Speaker 3: He's a ballroom he does ballroom dancing. You know, he's running. Yes,
Speaker 3: Oh my god. You should see his little hips doing
Speaker 3: the tango and doing the chi and all of this.
Speaker 3: I mean, and he's won six competitions by him and
Speaker 3: his little dance partner. It's just a girl. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I mean he has to holds the head up and
Speaker 3: shoulders and the hips I mean straight. So the last
Speaker 3: one he just ended up jumped up in the inn,
Speaker 3: came down to full split.
Speaker 1: I was wow, please wait. This is the thing though,
Speaker 1: What after you did what you did? Did they physically
Speaker 1: come out and stop the show and the rescue.
Speaker 3: No, they waited for me to come off stage. Oh
Speaker 3: so they let the show go on and then they
Speaker 3: had to It's not depicted like that in the movie
Speaker 3: because we didn't have time to you know, technicality checkers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so this is what happened. When I got off stage.
Speaker 3: I had my brother put on my robe and they
Speaker 3: followed him out at first diversion diversion, and I was
Speaker 3: in one of the anvil cases. Oh, they was pushing
Speaker 3: the anvil case up the up the hill and they
Speaker 3: took the thing off of Tommy and realized that it
Speaker 3: wasn't me. So they followed the anvolcase and soon as
Speaker 3: soon as they opened the amvlcase, they were cops. Was
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 8: Wow, the worst way to get caught.
Speaker 3: Yes, trying to evade.
Speaker 8: Police another charge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird, because that's what that's what I remember
Speaker 1: about the show that I saw. You guys used to
Speaker 1: enter in this like this trojan horse sort of vehicle
Speaker 1: where they had to push y'all to the stage inside
Speaker 1: of this wooden device. So girls would attack y'all. So, yes,
Speaker 1: y'all are like the original kings of Anvil case.
Speaker 3: When we would do that, we would do that. That
Speaker 3: was that was one of the tricks of brook Paye
Speaker 3: and just of the trade. You know, we liked being attacked. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we don't wrong. We were younger, but we were We
Speaker 3: was you know, girl crazy, So we loved, you know,
Speaker 3: being able to see all the all of the chicks,
Speaker 3: all of all of the young little hobbies. You know, right,
Speaker 3: we were cool with that. But you know now our
Speaker 3: managers they was like, girls are only gonna get y'all
Speaker 3: in trouble. We was like, well, that's some trouble. We
Speaker 3: would like to give you that trouble man. Please answer
Speaker 3: for us. Who was Jackie? Oh god, yes, who is that?
Speaker 6: Was that?
Speaker 3: Just? I love you Jackie? There was nobody. There was
Speaker 3: no Jackie. We heard that Jackie? Or what did smooth
Speaker 3: be of nicest move? Did he write that rhyme? Was
Speaker 3: it him? Or did you write it? No, he didn't
Speaker 3: write that. He didn't write that one. Okay, no he
Speaker 3: didn't write there. He was wrong. Hey, listen, that's what
Speaker 3: was just a rhyme scheme form I can see see. No,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say we're not gonna do like we
Speaker 3: did the baby Face where we just wrapped the whole thing.
Speaker 1: No, please, don't speaker of Smoothie. I know that your
Speaker 1: your peers are mostly wrapped, like who who was your click?
Speaker 1: As far as like you're you're when you were hanging
Speaker 1: and and it was it.
Speaker 3: Was smooth Bie. It was you know, at times Cougie
Speaker 3: rap at times all times, well whodini? Of course there
Speaker 3: was a bunch. I mean I used to hang out
Speaker 3: with with rappers a lot where in New York, In
Speaker 3: New York, just any particular places quarters we got it.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting, yes, nineteen weeks to finally get a
Speaker 1: Latin quarter story.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. You don't understand. It's like our first
Speaker 3: twenty episodes.
Speaker 1: Everybody in their mother they retired about Latin quarter story stops.
Speaker 3: Finally I got a Latin quarter Tell me. I once
Speaker 3: saw a very well known rapper, very well known, got hat.
Speaker 3: He wears a hat all the time. Llll okay. I
Speaker 3: saw him get his chain, snacks waters and it was
Speaker 3: just it was, oh, it was bad. It was bad.
Speaker 3: It was bad because you know, it was these Brooklyn
Speaker 3: cats and it was just like, oh man, and they
Speaker 3: was like they was for real about it. They was not,
Speaker 3: you know, trying to give him his jewelry back at all.
Speaker 3: And they just bounced with his chain and I was
Speaker 3: like and L was like, you know, l, I didn't care,
Speaker 3: and we'll have another one tomorrow. You know.
Speaker 1: Why, What was the allure of that place? Because all
Speaker 1: I know is that it was dangerous and you could
Speaker 1: get snatched. You know, you can't sign too much.
Speaker 3: The danger part of it was it was one way in,
Speaker 3: one way out. There was no side doors, Latin corns
Speaker 3: in the middle of the block, right It didn't have it, didn't.
Speaker 12: I mean it was next to it was a store
Speaker 12: or this, but Latin Corters was one way in and
Speaker 12: one way out, so and it was hot and all
Speaker 12: of the chicks went there and we were just you know,
Speaker 12: so it's worth risky in life to hear all the
Speaker 12: hip hop that yes, all the hip hop you can
Speaker 12: hear girls and all the girls and bamboo.
Speaker 3: Ear rings at least two pairs. He also wrote that
Speaker 3: and that club because that's all you saw up in
Speaker 3: that club.
Speaker 6: From the time that it was four years I think
Speaker 6: it was four years from the time of Don't Be
Speaker 6: Crewe into Bobby.
Speaker 3: What took so long for the follow up? Just wanting
Speaker 3: to break because Don't Be Crewe tour was grueling, Like
Speaker 3: I said, it was three years of touring you know,
Speaker 3: the world, and when I decided to go back in,
Speaker 3: I really wanted a lot more of Teddy's funkiness on
Speaker 3: the album. You know, I was strained, strained further away
Speaker 3: from the sounds of you know, La and Babyface, and
Speaker 3: so I just took my time with this that one,
Speaker 3: and you know, we came up with what we came
Speaker 3: up with, and I think that's one of the most
Speaker 3: funkiest albums.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: It is my favorite.
Speaker 6: That's my favorite Bobby album. I was One More Night
Speaker 6: and that to play the Game. Yeah, that was just
Speaker 6: jam after jam. Yeah, like what who decided the singles?
Speaker 6: Picking the singles? Because like humping Around, I mean, it
Speaker 6: was a big hit. But when I heard it, I
Speaker 6: was just like, Okay, this is kind of like my prerogative.
Speaker 6: But then when I bought the album, my uncle he
Speaker 6: had it and I would listen to it on his
Speaker 6: big speakers, and man, you had like some sweet fucking
Speaker 6: songs on that album.
Speaker 3: And I was like, man.
Speaker 6: Like, I was like, yo, this is like this is
Speaker 6: it sounded to me it sounded like the next progression.
Speaker 6: It was like, okay, don't be cruel, was bad boy
Speaker 6: Bobby or whatever? And then but Bobby was like it
Speaker 6: sounded like growth and it was. I love that album.
Speaker 3: It was. But you know, with La and Babyface becoming
Speaker 3: such such a popular duo, with with all of the
Speaker 3: music they was doing for everybody else, I think Little
Speaker 3: Silas felt that it should be a Face La and
Speaker 3: Face record that drops first, and I was moving towards
Speaker 3: you know, get away or to complay that game was
Speaker 3: like that's the one right there. I love that, right so,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just creative differences, and you know, I
Speaker 3: went with it, you know. But of course we still
Speaker 3: sold three million copies of that, you know, and it
Speaker 3: was like, I mean, after my first album almost going gold,
Speaker 3: King of Stage and then for Don't Be Crude to
Speaker 3: sell twelve million, I'm just in the States alone. I
Speaker 3: felt that you know, Bobby album, you know, I thought
Speaker 3: it was going to do more. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I appreciated who who bought it, you know, because it
Speaker 3: was it was just it was just a project that
Speaker 3: I was really passionate about, and I had a lot
Speaker 3: of fun doing the tour. That tour was that tour
Speaker 3: was mean for me. That tour was mean because I
Speaker 3: got a chance to go back to all the different
Speaker 3: countries and continents and all of the cities in America
Speaker 3: and and just performed this this funky album, this funky
Speaker 3: just funky music that that that made me feel good,
Speaker 3: you know, and that made others feel good. And I
Speaker 3: was just really proud of that album. No you should
Speaker 3: be Man.
Speaker 6: For the longest time in high school, well it was yeah,
Speaker 6: middle school, going in high school, college girl remained a staple.
Speaker 3: So thank you for that. I used to take that.
Speaker 7: You mentioned like turning all over the world. In your book,
Speaker 7: you mentioned the Bobbyos fan group in Japan. Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: can you tell us about that, because that seems it
Speaker 7: seems about Bobbyos.
Speaker 3: The Bobbyos they would it was guys and girls. They
Speaker 3: would tan their bodies to my complexion and they would
Speaker 3: wear clothes like me and they would all have gumbies. Dog.
Speaker 3: They found a way. There's no questions too.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 3: That was weird to see, like.
Speaker 1: For Orange with these Afros, like they wouldn't pur their
Speaker 1: they were perning their hairs, but it would currently look
Speaker 1: like African.
Speaker 3: American and freaked the ship out. Yeah, man, built in Japan,
Speaker 3: you never had loyal You never find more loyal fans
Speaker 3: in the world. You have never find more loyal fans.
Speaker 3: I mean they come and droves and they'll keep coming.
Speaker 3: Every time you go back there they go again.
Speaker 6: What were some of the other places we were able
Speaker 6: to hit Africa while you were doing anywhere in Africa?
Speaker 3: I played sun City at one time, and that was
Speaker 3: you played sun City, Yes, and that was what wait,
Speaker 3: what year? It was the year that you should have
Speaker 3: played Some City. Yeah I should have. Yeah. Oh it
Speaker 3: was passing the okay, okay, yeah yeah he was home. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So basically in in eighty five, Sylvia and Sopranos, Stephen
Speaker 1: Little Stephen kind of organized uh, kind of a protest record,
Speaker 1: We Are the World Asque protest record called Sun City,
Speaker 1: in which basically he didn't want American artists going over
Speaker 1: there to play, to play South Africa, Yeah, to play
Speaker 1: South Africa.
Speaker 3: The video was weird too. It's like that Miles Davis
Speaker 3: walking Davis for Melli mel Yeah, yeah, it was. It
Speaker 3: was great. I remember that song. It was like King yea.
Speaker 1: And but the thing was is that some artists were
Speaker 1: sort of crossing the protest line, like I know that
Speaker 1: that's why Mylon Williams had left the Commodores ant Thomas McCleary,
Speaker 1: because you know, South Africa will basically offer artists like
Speaker 1: five times the dollars to go over there to play,
Speaker 1: and you know it's either you show solidarity not play it,
Speaker 1: or you sell your soul, and some artists wild cross
Speaker 1: that line. So but yeah, my time ninety two ninety three,
Speaker 1: then it was okay to.
Speaker 3: Play some City. Oh man, we jumped a little bit.
Speaker 6: Ghostbuster, Yeah, we gotta yeah, come on Ghostbusters man, like
Speaker 6: talk about.
Speaker 3: Doing the song and like being in the movie with Ghostbusters.
Speaker 3: They approached me to write a song for the soundtrack
Speaker 3: and I did, and I wrote a song called We're Back, Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah and.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's my Ship. I wrote that first, and
Speaker 3: then I gave them that one and they was like,
Speaker 3: we love it, we love it, We just need one more.
Speaker 3: Can you give us one more? And I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, l and babyfacing right, I ain't got
Speaker 3: no more words that I can say about ghosts, about
Speaker 3: ghosts and evil and ship. I'm not I'm not in that.
Speaker 3: I'm not in that frame of mind right now, you know.
Speaker 3: But the thing was, if I wrote the song, I
Speaker 3: told him I want to be in the movie also,
Speaker 3: you know. So they put that in the contract and
Speaker 3: I and then when I got on our own from
Speaker 3: facing the House like okay, So we dropped it. When
Speaker 3: we put the single out, we put on our Own
Speaker 3: on the B side, and we're back on the on
Speaker 3: the A side. But we did the video for on
Speaker 3: our own, so as many as they sold, I still
Speaker 3: get my publisher back because it's the A side. I
Speaker 3: never knew that on our own was the B side. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know that. I always thought that was the main joining.
Speaker 3: You also did a thin line between.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yo, we gotta talk about that and like and panther.
Speaker 6: But he had he had He had a dope as
Speaker 6: song on the soundtrack to So Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I I love acting. I love being
Speaker 3: a part of you know, just to hurry up and
Speaker 3: wait situation. Yeah, you're just waiting your trailing. You go
Speaker 3: out there, you work for four minutes and go back
Speaker 3: in your trailing. You're in there for three hours. And
Speaker 3: I love that, you know, and you're getting the check too.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just let me chill in my trailer. Man.
Speaker 3: How was and Martin was really cool? We had so
Speaker 3: much fun on that set. Man, It was just like
Speaker 3: I don't know, it was it was. It was basically
Speaker 3: a party because he was directing, you know, he did,
Speaker 3: and it was just a lot of fun, you know,
Speaker 3: the whole cast. You know, we just we just joked
Speaker 3: around all the time.
Speaker 8: That meant for you or was it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wrote it for me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Lynn Whitfield because she played the hell out of
Speaker 6: that role, and yeah, she scared me.
Speaker 3: She scared the ship out of me because she stayed
Speaker 3: in character. Offset Yeah, y'a making jokes. She wasn't she
Speaker 3: wasn't kept she kept that face straight like this, and
Speaker 3: she was just walking around looking at people all weird
Speaker 3: and ship and I was like, wrong, it's crazy, man.
Speaker 13: And then after we rapped, she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 13: oh oh oh, I'm so glad I could come out
Speaker 13: of that.
Speaker 3: I was like, we are too stup out here. Well,
Speaker 3: you did a panther with Mario van Peebles. How did
Speaker 3: that come together? That came together? I went, I met
Speaker 3: with uh Mario at his office and he was like,
Speaker 3: he had this thing for me. He said, I got
Speaker 3: something for you, man, I got something that I really
Speaker 3: think you're gonna you know, you could really come across
Speaker 3: and really good. I'm team you up with Chris Rock
Speaker 3: and you him we're gonna And he explained the characters
Speaker 3: and how we were supposed to be and I was
Speaker 3: just like, I was like, oh ship, this is this
Speaker 3: is gonna be some funny ship. I know you're gonna
Speaker 3: kill me. Chris Rock, Yes, yeah, I remember, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: Hold on, So, since we're talking about acting and you
Speaker 7: just played that I got to ask you about the
Speaker 7: two two seven guest spot. Yes, after that, I was
Speaker 7: sure that I'll be Good to you was gonna be
Speaker 7: the next thing. I was waiting for that. Damn man,
Speaker 7: I just didn't. I didn't at that point.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do any of the you know,
Speaker 3: other songs that everybody normally hears from me. So I figured,
Speaker 3: you know, on on to seven, I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: let me I'll do I'll do this one. And unfortunately,
Speaker 3: fortunately that it came out really, really good. I loved.
Speaker 3: I loved being able to perform it like like I did,
Speaker 3: into the in the classroom and Regina jumping in and
Speaker 3: dancing with me. That was just a lot of fun
Speaker 3: and being on that set. Molly Gibbs is, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: what a gym she's. She's a beautiful, beautiful, one of
Speaker 3: the most kindest women I've ever met in my life
Speaker 3: other than my mom. She is really kind. And I
Speaker 3: got a story about that. She was We were all
Speaker 3: backstage and I'm thinking, you know, I got to go
Speaker 3: to the bathroom and I walk into the wrong room
Speaker 3: and Mala's trying to get was asking her she had
Speaker 3: on she had a stock and she was trying to
Speaker 3: pull address up. She was like, boy, close that door.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's dope.
Speaker 6: When you did After, After Bobby and then Forever, it
Speaker 6: was like five years.
Speaker 3: In between scrapped the record in between there, didn't you.
Speaker 3: I think it was the Forever album that I had scrapped.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to put it out because the record
Speaker 3: was done, so I did it so early, you know,
Speaker 3: and I like to try to space the albums out,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, and it creates, you know, a mystique
Speaker 3: to to the name Bobby Brown. But with Forever, I
Speaker 3: was truly in love, you know, and I just wrote
Speaker 3: songs that were about, you know, love.
Speaker 6: And I loved feeling the side feeling that. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: love that record, feeling inside.
Speaker 3: You like that. I don't don't make me feel like
Speaker 3: I said something wrong now, No, I just couldn't. I
Speaker 3: just couldn't stand the record. I really felt like I like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just don't know. I just too
Speaker 3: close to it. I mean, I don't know. Jeff Wait
Speaker 3: a minute, Jeff Red you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 3: did the record, and you know, at the time, he
Speaker 3: was a and R up at mc A, and I
Speaker 3: was like, dude, we're not We're not dropping that first.
Speaker 3: I don't want to drop that first. And he was like,
Speaker 3: but he had more pull over there, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we should drop this one. I was like,
Speaker 3: because you did, you did it right.
Speaker 7: But I liked it because it was kind of a
Speaker 7: different feel for you, Like yeah, and like the way
Speaker 7: you're saying on that record, you hadn't really kind of
Speaker 7: done things like that before.
Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, I'm with this, thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you. I appreciate it because this is there's so
Speaker 3: many songs that I've recorded that I didn't like, like
Speaker 3: don't be cruel, I didn't like that, I didn't like
Speaker 3: I didn't like every little stat blasphemous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why do I feel that even thirty years after
Speaker 1: the fact, still you're still lukewarm on your working relationship
Speaker 1: with La and Face, Like, no, no, we're good, We're good.
Speaker 1: Me and Me and Face are really good. First of all,
Speaker 1: can you settle this whole that was really Ralph singing
Speaker 1: on every little stuff? Whatever started that rumor or.
Speaker 3: I don't know who started that, but that is definitely
Speaker 3: a lie. Okay, So what did you not like?
Speaker 8: Please don't be cruel.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was too slow. Oh man, I
Speaker 3: thought it was too slow. It's like that's how dam
Speaker 3: Then I started thinking, you know that it sounded like Casanova.
Speaker 3: I can't see that, I can see, but you see
Speaker 3: the jam people the damn too.
Speaker 6: You got it because I was yeah, because that was like,
Speaker 6: well that was eighty eight, so that was like I
Speaker 6: was like third grade, so we would have our dance.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I was always a man of husk. So it's the
Speaker 1: heavy d That was the Yo, the big man. What
Speaker 1: was like eighty seven, that was the Calaway Brothers.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that one you would have made that you on
Speaker 8: a house record.
Speaker 3: I put a little bit more funk on it. But
Speaker 3: as I as it started to grow on me when
Speaker 3: I was on tour, it was just it just grew
Speaker 3: on me, you know, especially when we put the rap
Speaker 3: in it, because first we dropped it, and we had
Speaker 3: to drop it without the rap because radio would not
Speaker 3: play rap at the time, really, no wrap, no version
Speaker 3: without the rep. We put it out the first time
Speaker 3: without the rap, and then the radio was playing it,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't it wasn't really going nowhere. So we
Speaker 3: took we stopped that. We brought that one back and
Speaker 3: put out my prerogative, Like we pulled the pulled Domp
Speaker 3: crew and put out my prerogative and boom, we hit him.
Speaker 3: We got pop radio. We you know, we got started
Speaker 3: getting all the ads and then we put the rap
Speaker 3: on them Won't Be Crew and put it back out
Speaker 3: right after prerogative. So it was like it was like
Speaker 3: a switcher through And what.
Speaker 8: Was the effects of that when you put the rap
Speaker 8: back on?
Speaker 3: What did you what did you say? Number one? That
Speaker 3: was the Yeah, that's the part everyone. That's when they
Speaker 3: started really really playing rap music on the pop radio stations,
Speaker 3: because it was like they had to. I'm really shocked
Speaker 3: that you're this would be cool man? If you didn't
Speaker 3: like it? Did you? Were you hesitant to name the
Speaker 3: title after the record?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: No, I thought I thought, I'm I'm a big Elvis
Speaker 3: Presley fan. It was like that, I'm gonna take Yeah.
Speaker 8: So then every little step, what is the problem?
Speaker 6: Like that?
Speaker 3: Was it the same verse, the same verse? Yeah, it
Speaker 3: took parts of that, parts of that, and then I
Speaker 3: just thought it was bubble gummish. Wait why was it
Speaker 3: just why was it one verse sung twice the same? Now?
Speaker 3: Now I'm doing. Wait, didn't Face already revealed that to us?
Speaker 3: Or am I just discovering that right now? I can't remember?
Speaker 3: So it was.
Speaker 1: No, No, it was the same verse. It was the
Speaker 1: same thing verse. It was just sung sung differently. On Saturday.
Speaker 3: Lewis did the same thing Saturday Love. Yeah. Man, So
Speaker 3: did you like Ronie because that's like I love okay
Speaker 3: all the balance Here.
Speaker 7: Here's a random ass question that probably I'm the only
Speaker 7: one that's interested in. How involved were you with the
Speaker 7: Dance You Note remix album?
Speaker 3: Yes, A very yeah, because I felt, you know, if
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to drop an album right right away,
Speaker 3: that the best thing to do is remix and re
Speaker 3: sell the same songs that we just sold. It was
Speaker 3: it was that was the remixes in the Key of B.
Speaker 3: Was it that?
Speaker 6: No, There was Dance You Note for the Don't Be
Speaker 6: Cruel out and remixes for the Bobby Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had mixed drop it on more. Where is the
Speaker 3: b Brown posse? Everywhere? Everywhere? We're starting to rebuild right now.
Speaker 3: We are definitely starting to rebuild with my sons. And
Speaker 3: I have this other artist. His name is Damn. Did
Speaker 3: I just forget his name's an artist named Frank Stickham's
Speaker 3: and got a guy named Tim Campbell and then we
Speaker 3: still have Styles. Styles are still out there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll keep it going.
Speaker 7: In your book, you were talking about, you know, you
Speaker 7: guys recorded a lot of stuff for the for your
Speaker 7: label that you had. Is any do you ever think
Speaker 7: any of that stuff is going to come out?
Speaker 3: Never know? You know, I just gotta go and and
Speaker 3: I gotta I mean, my my garage is stacked, which
Speaker 3: just just reels and reels and reels, and I just
Speaker 3: gotta find time to you know, go through them. And
Speaker 3: I mean, if you need somebody to help you, volunteer, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I volunteers. Tribute. Yeah, I'd like to know what was the.
Speaker 1: The process of reuniting the group back together for the
Speaker 1: Home the Home Again album? Like, I know it's an
Speaker 1: extension of the Get Back the Remix of Words, but
Speaker 1: how how is that.
Speaker 3: I organized? I just missed my I just missed my crew,
Speaker 3: you know, I missed all the guys. I missed the
Speaker 3: camaraderie that we have. I missed just my friends just
Speaker 3: being out on the road with them. And I was like, man,
Speaker 3: it's time. I think it's time, you know, we get
Speaker 3: together and we do something. What went wrong with it?
Speaker 3: We were all crazy. We were all crazy.
Speaker 1: But did it last at least the full tour? That's
Speaker 1: the only time I didn't get to see I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't get to see him that year either. I
Speaker 3: didn't get to see you guys, I still have. I
Speaker 3: don't know if it lasted the whole tour. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't even know that because I mean, at that time,
Speaker 3: I was in a funk. I was in a real
Speaker 3: bad way, you know, with using drugs and things like that,
Speaker 3: and it was just it was just not a good
Speaker 3: time for me in my life. And I was still rolling,
Speaker 3: you know, I was still on the road and not
Speaker 3: taking care of myself, and it was just it was
Speaker 3: just a bad time, and you know, we ended up.
Speaker 3: I ended up losing my damn mind and you'll see
Speaker 3: it in my film. And I just I snapped, you know,
Speaker 3: and just went crazy for a little while and had
Speaker 3: to come up tour and you know, get some help.
Speaker 3: And I'm grateful that I did.
Speaker 8: Is it always all good?
Speaker 2: With with the introduction of Johnny and I was like
Speaker 2: that if it was, it was great, But I always
Speaker 2: a the fan.
Speaker 3: I was like, was that that easy? Well, me and
Speaker 3: Johnny have never have had a problem since I since
Speaker 3: I found out that he wasn't there to replace me,
Speaker 3: you know, he was there to replace Ralph because Ralph
Speaker 3: was going to go solo. So I was just like, oh, okay, well,
Speaker 3: I mean you got no problems then, because you know
Speaker 3: I was I was Eddie Kane Jr. At that time.
Speaker 8: Well, how long did it take you to get that
Speaker 8: information that looks this.
Speaker 3: Is what it is? Actually? No, they told me Mike
Speaker 3: and Mike, Ricky and Ronnie and and and then told me.
Speaker 3: And then, you know, me being close to Ralph, Ralph
Speaker 3: was telling he had been playing me his his album,
Speaker 3: you know, because me and Ralph was.
Speaker 5: Like this and.
Speaker 3: He had been playing me his music and stuff. And
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's you about to blow more sensitivity. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he had a bomb album that he did with who
Speaker 3: was he working with, you know, the producers just a
Speaker 3: guy named Dwayne, Dwayne in Boston, I forget his name,
Speaker 3: but yeah, they had some hot stuff, man. And I
Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, that's that's what's gonna get. That's
Speaker 3: it's gonna care. They hinted at that in the in
Speaker 3: the New Addition movie. Were they actually using the music
Speaker 3: that Roth had recorded for that record, because they were
Speaker 3: playing some songs? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Did you treat the relations Did y'all treat the relationship
Speaker 2: with new kids on the block the same way as Johnny?
Speaker 3: In that way?
Speaker 2: Like? Well, I guess I should say that it was
Speaker 2: their hostility more toward Maurice in that way then?
Speaker 3: No, no, we we we we really didn't care. We
Speaker 3: was just we were mad that they they cornered the merchant.
Speaker 3: They made more money with their merchandise than the records
Speaker 3: than their records. It was couldn't go to class without
Speaker 3: seeing like eighteen girls and new kids on the block.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the sweat shirts, sweatshirt traffic keepers, traffic keepers, Yeah
Speaker 6: yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Traficet pillows, all kinds of ship wait side questions.
Speaker 1: I'm about to derel into a rabbit hole. But your dad,
Speaker 1: it's almost back to school time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's already bad.
Speaker 1: I haven't already got all the school and I'm not
Speaker 1: a dad, so I got to know the books anymore.
Speaker 1: They don't use traffic keepers anyway, like the traffic keepers done.
Speaker 1: They do have notebooks but what's fly now is that
Speaker 1: they have companies now, uh that you can prepay for
Speaker 1: your your back to school supplies.
Speaker 3: Yeah and l and when your kids get the school,
Speaker 3: the box to just be there, but they name on it.
Speaker 3: So that's what I do. Like I bought, I buy
Speaker 3: like Amazon, your son the school Man.
Speaker 6: Amazon Prime that niggas apply. I'm not going to target
Speaker 6: and spending all that time and there that's so fun.
Speaker 6: I get them and you send him and he gets
Speaker 6: to school the first day, his name is on the
Speaker 6: box and he good.
Speaker 3: To go, all right.
Speaker 7: So I hate to keep referencing things in your book,
Speaker 7: but your book is really good, and I hope people
Speaker 7: can keep it. Like from me asking to tell these stories,
Speaker 7: We'll go out and buy it. There's a story about
Speaker 7: Mike Tyson in the book.
Speaker 3: Is this in the movie? Do you know where I'm going?
Speaker 3: Can you? Can you tell the story about the night
Speaker 3: partying with Mike Tyson and what happened the day after? Well,
Speaker 3: it was we was in Japan and we hooked up
Speaker 3: in Japan. Is this when he lost to Buster Douglas? Yes,
Speaker 3: spoiling the story for us, Well, but you didn't know
Speaker 3: that's what where this was going, I'll take the editor out. Listen.
Speaker 3: We basically stayed up all night partying okay, with like
Speaker 3: maybe twelve Japanese girls and just me and Mike. And
Speaker 3: it was just the funniest night ever. We had a ball,
Speaker 3: but it was just the funniest night ever. I kept
Speaker 3: telling them. I kept telling them, and I kept telling them.
Speaker 3: I was like, Mike, you need to go get some sleep.
Speaker 3: You gotta fight tomorrow. He's like, Bobby, listen, buster douggat is.
Speaker 3: He's an amateur, he said, he said I could. I
Speaker 3: could beat him if I didn't sleep for five weeks,
Speaker 3: he said. He said, watch watch how quick this fight ends.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be one of my quickest fights. And
Speaker 3: I was like, Mike, all right. He was like, don't worry, man,
Speaker 3: you worry so much. I was like, all right, Pride
Speaker 3: Goes before the Fall and what on behold? I had
Speaker 3: to go to Osaka and I couldn't go to the fight.
Speaker 3: I had to go to Osaka and I'm sitting there
Speaker 3: at this this Empress place and he has it on
Speaker 3: this big screen and I'm like, we're watching it and
Speaker 3: looking at Mike and I'm seeing the fatigue in him.
Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh ship, and then them
Speaker 3: punches came boom boom boom, boom boom, and I just
Speaker 3: started crying, like yo, baby, listen cried so bad. You
Speaker 3: don't understand. I was grade Man. Wasn't that She's like
Speaker 3: watching Superman like that. It was hurt. Yeah, that hurt.
Speaker 3: I mean, it hurt me to my core. I was
Speaker 3: just like I couldn't. I couldn't breathe, and I had
Speaker 3: to go on stage. So I was just like I
Speaker 3: think that's when I started having panic attacks, you know,
Speaker 3: and just like I was like, oh my god, he's
Speaker 3: gonna kill me. He's gonna, he's gonna, he's just gonna
Speaker 3: he's just gonna destroy me when he sees me. And
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like yo. But then I
Speaker 3: started thinking about it. I kept telling this, why would
Speaker 3: he be mad at me? What? What was it like?
Speaker 3: At the after after he after the fight, he called
Speaker 3: me on the phone. He said, Bob, he was right.
Speaker 3: He said, you was so like he said, I was
Speaker 3: so sleepy in there, my legs, with my legs with
Speaker 3: mushing there. He said, that's why, he said, that's why
Speaker 3: coustry model told me don't have sex for a fight again,
Speaker 3: you had a lot of sex. You had a lot
Speaker 3: of it was it wasn't just one person. You have
Speaker 3: a lot of oh god, drinking a dragging alkaline alkaline water. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So like what's your life like now? Like on the
Speaker 3: day to day, Like what you my life? What you do?
Speaker 3: My life now was beautiful, I think. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: living my best days coming back for I love shoulders. No,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm so happy as y'all know. I'm I'm married.
Speaker 3: I've been married to my wife, Alicia for for the
Speaker 3: last six years. We've been together for about ten and
Speaker 3: then we have three kids, a two year old, a
Speaker 3: three year old, and a nine year old. And I
Speaker 3: just love you just six six six six, all right.
Speaker 1: I know I have it on good authority as a foodie. Uhh,
Speaker 1: that you're fried chicken? Game is bart nine hands down.
Speaker 3: Look at.
Speaker 1: I saw someone another room like look like I told you,
Speaker 1: And this is not the cocaine chicken.
Speaker 3: This is not the cocaine. Is that really better to
Speaker 3: make you addicted like coke?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I have you know we have a food line, I know,
Speaker 3: Bobby Brownfoods dot com and we make barbecue sauces, all natural,
Speaker 3: gluten free kosha, you know, all all of the all
Speaker 3: of the natural ingredients that we put in there afresh,
Speaker 3: and we we basically make it and bottle it while
Speaker 3: it's hot, so that you know it's it's the real
Speaker 3: it's the real deal, you know. Then we have the
Speaker 3: fried chicken mix which you can cook pork, chicken fish with.
Speaker 3: The fried chicken mixes called brown bagging it we give you,
Speaker 3: give you a bag. You get it comes in a
Speaker 3: bag and you can use that bag to shake it,
Speaker 3: shake your stuff up. The Boston band Boston Boston blenn
Speaker 3: is like a rub or you know, just like an
Speaker 3: everyday pepper, which is which is also all natural.
Speaker 8: Recipes.
Speaker 6: Yes, Bobby's barbecue salmon, yes, yes, vegetarians right.
Speaker 3: Speaking of seafood in the everyday seasoning is also it's
Speaker 3: like a it's like Lowry's, but it's a lot a
Speaker 3: lot less salt, and it's it's it's also you know,
Speaker 3: gluten free and all natural. We're gonna cops, I'm a
Speaker 3: cop some of that. Speaking of seafood, I understand you
Speaker 3: you're big into sushi, is that right? I am? I am?
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to Gero's in Japan.
Speaker 1: That you're right Gero's, Yes, I don't think so he's
Speaker 1: the god of sushi. Oh yeah, since he he's like
Speaker 1: eighty eighty nine years old.
Speaker 3: But you have to check him out. You got to
Speaker 3: see his on a Netflix.
Speaker 1: You gotta see his documentary, Gerald Dreams of Sushi and
Speaker 1: like it's it's a pilgrimage, Like his meals are like.
Speaker 3: Six seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: But it's people. People make pilgrimages over there. It's almost
Speaker 1: like going to confessional just him. Yeah, like it's just
Speaker 1: you and him alone in the room, and he feeds you,
Speaker 1: you know, the best sushi you've ever had in your life.
Speaker 3: Wow. I remember, I remember going when I first ate sushi.
Speaker 3: I ate sushi in Japan at the Empress Palace. He
Speaker 3: invited us over, Me and my whole crew. We had
Speaker 3: just finished doing Tokyo dum for the seventh night and
Speaker 3: he invited us over, and I mean the palace was
Speaker 3: so beautiful and he just we were like skeptical of
Speaker 3: trying sushi, but it was like this was so long ago,
Speaker 3: this was before all of these sushi restaurants started popping
Speaker 3: up here, and man I swear on my life this
Speaker 3: this food was so good. It was oh my god.
Speaker 3: And they had temporas and all of that. They had
Speaker 3: these little white fish that the tempora and I mean, oh,
Speaker 3: I can still taste it right now, that's how good
Speaker 3: it was. And then I tried all of the other
Speaker 3: you know, you know, raw fish and things like that,
Speaker 3: and got my kids into it, you know, my older kids,
Speaker 3: and then I started telling them that the you know,
Speaker 3: the wasabi was dessert and that was the ice cream.
Speaker 3: That's nice. I did it to my brother first, and
Speaker 3: he took a scoop and put it all the way
Speaker 3: in his love and he was and he doesn't like
Speaker 3: anything hot, and his snow started running. I started tearing up.
Speaker 6: I was like, before I forget talk to us about
Speaker 6: how you had Bosstown in Atlanta and then how it
Speaker 6: became thinkni you okay in outcast in that connection, I forgot.
Speaker 3: Well. Bosstown was a place where we did all of
Speaker 3: the recordings for you know, most of my stuff that
Speaker 3: I did with b Brown Posse, and we would rent
Speaker 3: it out, you know track. We would do lots of tracks.
Speaker 3: We had three studios. But I just got I just
Speaker 3: got tired of Atlanta. You know, when I was getting
Speaker 3: ready to get married to Whitney, I was just tired
Speaker 3: of Atlanta. I was tired of being there and tired
Speaker 3: of the whole Atlanta scene. You know, because what years
Speaker 3: were you there from? Ooh, I want to say eighty eight,
Speaker 3: eighty seven.
Speaker 6: To ninety eighty seven, ninety okay, eighty seven to ninety two.
Speaker 6: So that was was Freaknick still run Nick was yeah.
Speaker 6: They canceled Freak Nick back in ninety ninety, yeah, around
Speaker 6: ninety because.
Speaker 3: It was it was wild. It was wild. I have
Speaker 3: never seen so many strip I was on in my life.
Speaker 3: I mean, strip club on every corner, every corner. I
Speaker 3: was like, isn't this the Bible Belt state? Apparently not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Atlanta is just I mean when you know, like
Speaker 6: Atlanta is just like one spec of black people, but
Speaker 6: Georgia like as a whole. Oh yeah, it's yeah, it's real.
Speaker 6: I'm from I'm born and raised North Carolina. So like
Speaker 6: my buddies, my homies were drive down to Freaknick, but
Speaker 6: I never got a chance to go.
Speaker 3: I was too young. But Freaknick was wow. So you
Speaker 3: had the studio there, you had boss Town, I had Bosstown,
Speaker 3: there and I guess you know, I was told to
Speaker 3: La that I wanted to sell it, and he said, well,
Speaker 3: I got some guys that might want to buy it
Speaker 3: off you and go we hold it was outcasts, you know,
Speaker 3: the Dungeon Crew, and I sold it to them and
Speaker 3: moved on, you know, didn't look back. He well, you know,
Speaker 3: brother Brown, We thank you. Thank you. Yell y'all, bro
Speaker 3: like for real, like you are a surviving Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate straight up.
Speaker 7: And I want to thank you for all the sacrifices
Speaker 7: that you and the guys in New Addition made because
Speaker 7: you guys basically gave up your childhood just to entertain us.
Speaker 3: I want to thank you for that. Thank you. You
Speaker 3: made a lot of people very happy. Thanks y'all made
Speaker 3: us got be I mean, y'all didn't have to listen,
Speaker 3: but you did listen. We have what else am I
Speaker 3: going to put on my cake?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: God?
Speaker 3: All right on? Behalf of team Supreme? Uh you fan
Speaker 3: take a little and Sugar Steve you cool Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: cooling it now and then cool.
Speaker 1: Boston on pay Bill quest love. Thank you Bobby once again,
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: You got it. This is quest Love Supreme only on Pandora.
Speaker 3: We'll see you on the next go around, y'all.
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