WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Bobby Brown 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.880 Quest Love Supreme is production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:15.720 was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:16.800 Quest Love Supreme. Ma contained language that some of our 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.040 listeners may find offensive. Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.040 What's up, y'all, Welcome to QLs Classic. This is Questlove. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.280 We did the Bobby Brown episode I believe in the 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.920 summer of twenty and eighteen. This is right before his 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.919 BET two Parts special came on, way after the new 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.840 edition BT Special came on, And of course his story 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:47.080 alone bananas, and that's putting it lightly, especially the parts 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:48.960 about Miss Jackson. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:51.879 It was nasty anyway. For me. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.320 I think it was also important not to just focus 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.520 on the salacious, controversial side to mister Brown, Like there's 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.760 other sides to him that people don't know about. So 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.880 for us, it's like a way to humanize him more 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.880 than he normally is in other interviews. And I think 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.160 we did a pretty good job at covering both of them. 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.400 Uh So, this is the Bobby Brown QLs Classic episode. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:18.600 I hope you enjoy it. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:29.840 Suprema Son Supremo. Roll call, Suprema So Supremo. Roll call 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:37.520 Suprema Son Son Supremo. Roll called Suprema Son Son Suprema. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.920 My name is Questloud, that's what they call me. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:53.080 Yeah, Supremo, Suprema roll Suprema s Suprema roll. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.360 My name is Fante. Yeah, I'm getting my bread. Yeah, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.720 because I made this money. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:06.680 Yeah, you did right there, Son Supremo roll call subpremer 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.440 Son Subpremo roll call. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.360 Her name is Sugar. Yeah, I'm gonna show you how. Yeah. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.639 Just stay in this corner. Yeah and cool it now. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:25.400 Supreme roll call Subprema Son Son Subpremo roll call. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.239 Here's one thing. Yeah, lost Bill wants to know. Yeah, 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:30.839 did you ever get that proton pack? 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.320 Yeah? For your little bro. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:41.320 Supprime up sucking Supreme roll Supreme suck something Supremo roll call. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:43.120 Yeah. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.359 And Bobby so nice. Yeah, I know I'm gonna love you. 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.520 Yeah for most of the Malays. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:57.320 Supprima son Suck Supprimo roll Suprema So Supremo roll call. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:01.639 Her name is Bobby. Yeah, he's just Jess. Yeah, here 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.840 chilling with my man, Quest. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:13.359 Come on, Son Supremo, roll call, Suprema something Supremo roll call, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:20.400 Suprema so so Supprima roll call Suprima Son Supremo. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.440 I'm up I'm up, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.120 episode of Course Love Supreme. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.800 I am quest Love. What's up Team Supreme? 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:41.040 Some fucking awesome awesome Sorry this number. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.880 One like this is this is why we started this 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.920 podcast exactly for moments like this, straight up, straight up, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.560 ladies and gentlemen, Our guest. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:53.480 Today is simply the Kang King. Hey, yeah, the King Inger. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:04:01.640 Stage, King of Rocksbury, Weird Kango fried Chicken. Yes, oh yeah, 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.320 got that, King of Pregatives. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.880 I want to thank Bobby Brown for introducing the word 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.360 prerogative to the community. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.280 I did not know what that word was. That word 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.360 you have to really understand something. I didn't know what 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:19.280 the word was at first. I even spelled the word 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:24.560 wrong on the record, and the dictionary corrected it in 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:29.520 the dictionary. Wow, So they rewrote it like I said 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:34.120 it and like I spelled it, So it was just 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.040 like it was. It was weird for me. I was 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:40.960 because it's prerogative. It's not perrogative. It's prerogative. That's the 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.560 that's the proper way to say. But they changed it 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:56.560 in the dictionary to be King of Webster's Brown. Thank 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:01.760 you for having me, brother sister. Wait a minute, So 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.080 the way I've been spelling prerogative has been wrong, has 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:05.520 been wrong. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.800 But the whole world, the whole world. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.480 He introduced that word to the world. Who knew what 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.080 the proprocative was? What is that? 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:15.760 But you know what, it's sure as hell came in 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.680 handy when I was had to take the vocabulary test. 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.240 What's his eight year old boy know what a progative is? 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.200 Bobby Brown? Bobby Brown, So you do. I'm wonderful, man, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.920 I'm I'm just I'm just happy today. Last night we 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:37.240 had the first viewing, the first premier of the Bobby 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.040 Brown Story, and it just went over really good. The 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:45.680 acceptance from the people that saw it was it was 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.320 out of here. I'm hearing good things about it. What 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:53.720 McLean is He's Bobby? Is you? Yeah? Yeah, I'm I'm 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.839 gonna sit down in a little while after this tour 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.800 and just let him be Bobby at home with my 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.320 kids and my wife and let him go out on 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:07.400 the tours. Yeah, send my check back. What's wrong with it? 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:12.560 What is the process of especially I mean this being 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.960 your second biopick, Like, is there a certain amount of 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.039 time that you have to spend with the person playing 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:21.720 you do you guys just talk on the phone a lot, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:22.480 is it? 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.560 Like? How long did it take him to well? With 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.680 with with me and Woody? Me and Woody got to 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.279 know each other a lot. And when he was doing 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.720 the biopick for New Edition, and after that, you know, 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.360 we knew that we couldn't find somebody else that could 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:43.279 play that role that well, you know, for my movie. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.920 And we called him up and me and him had 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:50.200 been hanging and you know, just going to lunch and talking, 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.600 and he developed all of my mannerisms. He hung out 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.360 with my kids, so he knew my kids and my 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.880 young one of my daughters, she's three years old, swears 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.920 that wood he's a boyfriend. So you know, I'm just, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.480 I'm just, you know, I try to keep them far 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.960 away from each other. But no, wood he's just he's 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:16.440 just a great kid, and he's very extremely talented. And 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.280 I just thought that, you know what, let's get this 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.240 boy another shot at it and and watch him just 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.800 saw and he's about to he's about to saw. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.720 Now, did you use the same younger guy from the 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.080 New Yeah? 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:31.680 I had to. I had to keep it. I had 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:36.320 to keep it real. And Gully you know, it was 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.280 just it was just meant to be. You know, the 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.720 way they play off of each other, you know, the 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.640 way they get together and they and they talk about, 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.600 you know, the role of being Bobby and and knowing 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:52.040 the the person knowing me and being able to be 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:56.440 around me and see how I am as a person. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.760 You know, I think gave them a lot of confidence 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.640 and a lot of insight on who I am and 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:10.040 how do you play this strange character. And they pulled 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:10.960 it off because. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.760 How does the younger how does the younger Bobby? Who 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:13.360 does he go to? 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.520 He goes to me, He goes to me and my 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:22.080 youngest son, not my youngest son, but but to little Bobby. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:28.680 You know, isn't that my man from a Stranger things? Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.920 He's good. Yeah, he's really good. He's really good and 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.280 such a cool little dude. I mean, you know, I 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.080 saw him last night and me and him and Woody 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.120 were just sitting there and I was just congratulating, excuse me, 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.760 on the great job that they had did, because you know, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:49.160 they just brought the whole they brought the whole Bobby 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.439 across so well. I mean, and I was just I 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.199 was sitting there and I was just like, I was 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.079 almost in tears and sometimes but then I was like, 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.880 pull it back, pull it back, you know, don't don't 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.040 cry in front of all of these people. So what angle. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.800 Or approach did you take to tell in your life 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.880 story that was different than the new edition biopicking because 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.360 I know when you first came it was like when 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.160 you first met Ralph or whatever like, So this deals 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.760 with your life and your household in Roxbury. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:29.000 Yes, this deals with the first time I experienced tragedy, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.040 the first time that I lost someone in my life. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.520 When I was young. I was just a child and 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:44.160 I had lost my grandmother and right after my grandmother, 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.559 right after a funeral, you know, and me, you know, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:53.839 not feeling, not feeling anybody. My best friend Jimmy was 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.800 able to, you know, pick me up and was like, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.360 come on, let's go have some fun because I was 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.559 just I was done, I mean done. Because she was 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.320 the one that turned me onto music. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:05.160 You know. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:11.079 She had every record, every album of every artist in 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.760 her house and she would just let me play all 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.679 of the music that I wanted to and listen to 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.880 everything that I wanted to listen to, and she would 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.559 show me different things to listen to, and then she 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.520 taught me how to play piano. And when she passed, 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.920 it was just like, now where do I now, Where 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.599 do I get this this music from? Where do I 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:35.839 get this passion that I have in my heart? And 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.800 once I once I lost her and me and Jimmy, Uh, 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:47.120 it's the first scene. So me and Jimmy, we steal 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.320 some bikes, you know, we go riding on the bikes 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.360 and we pull up to a you know, a house 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:56.439 party and you know, somebody messes with the bikes that 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.400 we just stole, and he got into a fight with 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.360 this spare guy and the guy, you know, Jimmy was 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.440 whooping his you know, whopping his ass, and somebody threw 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.079 the guy and threw the guy a knife, and the guy, 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:13.599 one of my boys, kicked him in the back and 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:18.800 he lunged towards Jimmy and and killed him, stabbed him 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:23.319 in his heart. And that was the second, the second 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:27.960 you know, tragedy, and that was the that was the point. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.320 That was the time when I got to the point 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:35.079 where it wasn't about mourning or anything like that. It 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.679 was about getting myself out of the situation. That I 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.839 was in getting my family out of the projects, getting 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.280 my family to better, better surroundings. And that's when I 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.480 created a new addition and from that point it was 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.719 all history. So you officially created Like, were you the 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.880 the epicenter and the one that gathered them? Yes? Yes. 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.280 I asked Michael Bivens that he wanted to in my 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.040 group because I had been doing talent shows by myself, 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.760 so I knew all of them. We all stayed on 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.560 different sides of the projects. So I talked to Michael, 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.839 you know, asked him did he want to be in 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.199 a group with me. He said, you know, yeah, you know, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.079 as long as it don't interfere with my basketball. But 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.319 it did. And then we asked Ricky and Ricky was 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.480 like he was totally down. And Ricky said, you know, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.720 I know this kid that could really sing, that could 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.640 really sing. And I was saying to him, you know, 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.079 I'm gonna be doing most of the vocals. I'm gonna be, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.000 you know, the singer, the lead singer. And when I 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:43.679 heard Ralph singing, I just lost it. I was like, okay, okay, okay, 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.120 all right, that's cool. Can he could do the songs? 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:54.480 So I eventually put myself in the background a little bit. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.520 You know, I was okay. I was okay with it 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.040 because he sounded too much like Michael Jackson, and it 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.439 was just like, you know, this is this, this is 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.160 how we're going to get out of here. We're going 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:10.720 to get out of here by not imitating but being 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:16.880 the second coming of uh of the finest boy band 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.880 ever in the history, which is the Jackson's, and us 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.840 coming behind them was just everything. Then we met Ronnie 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:30.440 from our choreographer, Brooke Payne. How did you How did 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:36.280 you who officially met Brooke Payne? Me, Michael and Ricky. Yeah, me, 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.319 Michael and Ricky went up to him and we was like, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.040 you know, we was like, we want you, we want 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.679 you to well. Ralph was there also. We was like, 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.439 we want you to check us out. We want you 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.040 to manage us, because he was managing so many groups 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:53.800 and in our neighborhood. The Untouchables transitions, you know, when 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.840 these boys were shop, I mean were they all singing, Yeah, 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.880 they were singing and dancing and they were just they 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.880 was a lot older than we were, real quick the transitions. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.920 I was reading your book and I noticed that and 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.839 I believe BIV was in that group, right, No, he 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.480 was involved with them another group called Transitions. Later on, 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:14.920 I was wondering if it was the same crew. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:15.520 No. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.520 No, me and me and BIV worked with a group. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.080 I forget the name of him, but you know, me 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.720 and Mike danced with this group and. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:27.000 We uh. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.560 When we wanted to leave, they didn't. They wouldn't let 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.440 us leave. So we broke in the house and we 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:37.320 stole the truth. We broke in the house and stole 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.880 all the trophies that we had won because they wouldn't 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.240 let us take the trophy trophies home with us. So 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:47.600 we knew we were you know, the reason they want 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.440 those trophies. So they wouldn't let us get the trophies. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:54.160 So we broke in the house and took the trophies 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.280 and Mike would let let me have it for a 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.640 week and give it to him and he'd keep it 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.440 at his house for a week. And one of them 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.600 came to you, like, someone talk about trophies. Do you 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.320 know who did it? Nope, Okay, now they didn't. They 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.200 didn't even think. They didn't even think about that. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.560 I hear a lot about what life was like in Roxbury, 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.280 you know, but usually it's like yo, man, I'll mess 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:16.920 with Roxbury. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.640 But what was Roxbury the toughest of the tough like? 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:20.960 Was that? 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.520 What was it like growing up in a city, especially 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.360 with racial tensions were so high between black and white 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.640 people up there and badly high. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.800 You know, we couldn't go in their neighborhood at all. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.000 We couldn't go in South Boston without being jumped or 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.040 bricked or you know, and we had to pass through 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.760 there to get to another project, which which was Columbia Point, 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.280 which most of our most of our people that lived 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.680 in Orchard Park had some family in Colombia Point. So 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:56.080 it was hard to get through get through South Boston 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.440 to get to Columbia Point. Columbia Point was like where 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.360 the beach was, and you know, all of that type 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.800 of stuff, the clam digging and fishing and all of that. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.080 But yeah, it was, it was, it was. It was 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:15.280 just you know, it's just, I don't know, Boston is 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:22.160 so diverse, but it's it's still probably the most prejudiced city, yeah, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:27.520 in this country still even still even still, but you know, 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:32.000 since since hip hop has come along, they basically tried 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.480 to be us. You know, and I think that's what 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.600 they was mad about before, because they wanted to be 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.120 us and just didn't have the color for you know, 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.640 the connection is Boston still home for you or you're 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.000 based out here now. I'm based in Los Angeles Woodland 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.440 Hills with my family, and I'm very happy I'm not 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.240 moving back to the East Coast. That cold does not 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.840 agree with me at all at all, not at all. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.880 Speak on at least with Brooke Payning. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.639 What I always loved about you guys was that, you know, 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:10.200 you guys were the fine line between what the Temptations represented, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.400 but you were also very much what hip hop. 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:15.760 Was about to be. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.479 So it was almost like you guys were a thin 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:21.920 line between Temptations and what Utfo was doing with Houdini 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.919 those early days. But how how many like painstaking hours 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.920 of practice did oh man. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:34.439 That take? Oh my god, Let's see. We would get 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.679 out of school like three o'clock, have to be at 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.760 rehearsals by four. We had to go home, do our 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.440 homework and stuff and make it to rehearsals and don't 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.639 be late because you know you're doing push ups or 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.639 you're doing sit ups, or you're you know, you're running 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:57.879 around the building. You know, Yes, basically that's how it was. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.240 But we would respected that. Yeah, I mean the group, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.399 if you made me no, it was it was. It 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.639 was what we felt that he let us know what 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.800 was needed for us to you know, be one of 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:14.399 the top notch groups. Was you know, to perfect our craft. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.520 If we perfected our craft, there's nobody that could stop us. 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.480 And that's how we looked at it. That you know, 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.720 all of the all of the you know, long nights 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:28.320 and and and long days of just dancing and dancing 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.920 and not singing. He wouldn't want you to sing yet, 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.800 but just dancing, like four hours of just straight dancing, 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.720 doing the steps within without the music, and then there'll 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.520 be two hours of us singing, you know, and we 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.200 would be singing, you know, just like regular R and 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.840 B songs. You know, we didn't have music, our own 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.359 music at this point, so we were singing, you know, 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:57.560 like holding on. Yeah, we got the INTERVIEWE. He was 0:18:57.600 --> 0:18:59.600 so happy about that we were singing, that we were 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.920 singing Jackson songs. We were doing like the medley of 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.720 you know, the Jackson Medley. We would do that like 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.080 maybe four times in a row, just do that whole 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.720 thing four times in a row, and then we would 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.960 just you know, work on other songs, just any song 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.320 that was out there that was popular. We would make 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.760 a routine to it, you know, because we were still 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.719 doing talent shows. But we got we got kicked out 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.600 of doing talent shows because we kept winning. So we 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.479 had to stop being we had to stop being special 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:39.200 guests of the talent show, like it's a talent show 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:43.480 with special guests New Edition. Were there were there any 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:45.040 other notable. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:50.399 Uh Boston acts that eventually made it that were in 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.840 no these talent shows, like nobody from liked the Planet 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:56.480 Patrol or any any of those. 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.399 Guys No Planet Patrol. They were older and all of that. 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:05.399 But that was Maurice's brothers. But when we when we 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:12.080 when we lost the competition, we lost the first the 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.000 first competition we ever lost was the Hollywood Talent Night. 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.320 And this was for a recording contract. We were going 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.800 to be able to go into the studio and record 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:26.400 a record with Marie Starr. And we lost. We lost 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:37.000 to these these two two goofy goofy rappers and their 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:42.160 name was New York Rappers. Now that that was their name. 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.840 There was the New York. There was the New York Rappers, 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.920 but they was from Mattapen in Boston. Neither one of 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.639 them had been out of Boston or ever been to 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.679 New York. But they just called themselves the New York Rappers. 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.880 But they beat us, and I haven't heard a peep 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.200 out of them yet. It was rigged. It was really 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:07.680 they they did it. They were good. No, that was 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.760 the whole thing. They wasn't even doing any and for 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.000 them to beat us, we were just like what. Like 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.800 Maurice came over to us and he was like, he 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.280 was like, I'm just this is just because I want 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.320 to sign y'all. I don't want this other label to 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:27.520 get y'all. He wanted to record and signed to his label. 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.480 So we were just like, okay, Maurice just put us 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.119 in the studio. Then that Marie's always dressed like that, 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:37.879 because I've only seen that. The Colonel Prince, how was 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:39.720 he he? That was him all the time, That was 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:40.680 him all the time. 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.960 Wow, was he doing old to somebody or he was 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.120 just was he doing old to somebody like his grandpapa 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:48.359 used to dress like that or not? 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:52.200 I don't know. He just was that was his foule. 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.520 You know that was just Maurice. What was what was 0:21:55.680 --> 0:22:01.320 Michael Johnson's relation? What was this? Michael Johnson is Marie 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.359 Star's brother. Okay, so together they worked together. 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.240 Because I got admit, when y'all gave a shout out 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.320 on the Candy Girl twelve inch, I thought it was 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:12.040 Michael Jackson. 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:16.560 I knew it, knew Michael. I knew it. 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.479 Hey real quick, you said you said that at one 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.439 point James Brown had pulled you up on stage. 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:24.840 Yes, when I was, when I was younger, I was 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:29.119 I must have been like seven seven, yeah, about seven 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.480 six or seven. And my mom she knew I liked 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:37.200 James Brown, and she brought me to the place called 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.800 the Sugar Shack where he was he was performing. Of 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.760 course she snuck me was at your spot. Oh, I 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:49.000 founded that at the same time. She snuck me in there. 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.400 And James is on stage and he's doing his thing, 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.000 and my mother just put me on the stage and 0:22:56.080 --> 0:23:00.240 I just started cancing. He stopped his band. He was like, 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.480 hold on, hold on, hold on, come out, let me 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.760 see you do that. And he did did his thing, 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.760 and I did the same thing. Right then he did 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.440 something else and I did that, and he was just 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.320 he was in all and I was just looking up 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.359 at this man like, man, I'm gonna be just like 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.120 you one day. One day I'm out. One day I'm 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:24.000 gonna be just like you did your pasitive across again. 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.800 After that, Yes, yes, a few times. We talked a 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.560 few times because we both were living in Georgia at 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.720 the time and we both did it. We did this 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:38.240 one concert at the at the Big Field. It's a 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.600 big field that I forget the name of it. It's 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:44.600 the baseball field where the Braves pay. So we did 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.080 a concert there. It was a big benefit concert and 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.680 I was able to, you know, sit down and talk 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.920 to talk to him at that time, and you know, 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:55.879 I was. He told me just go stand on the 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.800 side of stage and I was like, oh my god, 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.000 I'm standing on the side of the stage and I'm 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.760 just watching, just watching it. And I told him about 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.160 the time in Boston when I was younger, and I said, 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:09.879 do you remember me? 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.919 He was like, I had a lot of people come 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:19.120 on my stage, but you know, I don't know if 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.000 I remember you, but I remember this one kid, one 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.480 kid that could do all the dance steps. 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:25.480