1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: was produced by the team at Pandora. 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: Quest Love Supreme. Ma contained language that some of our 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: listeners may find offensive. Listener discretion is advised. 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: What's up, y'all, Welcome to QLs Classic. This is Questlove. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: We did the Bobby Brown episode I believe in the 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: summer of twenty and eighteen. This is right before his 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: BET two Parts special came on, way after the new 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: edition BT Special came on, And of course his story 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: alone bananas, and that's putting it lightly, especially the parts 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: about Miss Jackson. 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: It was nasty anyway. For me. 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: I think it was also important not to just focus 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: on the salacious, controversial side to mister Brown, Like there's 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: other sides to him that people don't know about. So 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: for us, it's like a way to humanize him more 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: than he normally is in other interviews. And I think 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: we did a pretty good job at covering both of them. 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: Uh So, this is the Bobby Brown QLs Classic episode. 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: I hope you enjoy it. 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: Suprema Son Supremo. Roll call, Suprema So Supremo. Roll call 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: Suprema Son Son Supremo. Roll called Suprema Son Son Suprema. 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: My name is Questloud, that's what they call me. 24 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, Supremo, Suprema roll Suprema s Suprema roll. 25 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 6: My name is Fante. Yeah, I'm getting my bread. Yeah, 26 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 6: because I made this money. 27 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you did right there, Son Supremo roll call subpremer 28 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: Son Subpremo roll call. 29 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: Her name is Sugar. Yeah, I'm gonna show you how. Yeah. 30 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: Just stay in this corner. Yeah and cool it now. 31 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: Supreme roll call Subprema Son Son Subpremo roll call. 32 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 7: Here's one thing. Yeah, lost Bill wants to know. Yeah, 33 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 7: did you ever get that proton pack? 34 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? For your little bro. 35 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: Supprime up sucking Supreme roll Supreme suck something Supremo roll call. 36 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 37 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 8: And Bobby so nice. Yeah, I know I'm gonna love you. 38 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 8: Yeah for most of the Malays. 39 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: Supprima son Suck Supprimo roll Suprema So Supremo roll call. 40 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: Her name is Bobby. Yeah, he's just Jess. Yeah, here 41 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: chilling with my man, Quest. 42 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 4: Come on, Son Supremo, roll call, Suprema something Supremo roll call, 43 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: Suprema so so Supprima roll call Suprima Son Supremo. 44 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm up I'm up, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another 45 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: episode of Course Love Supreme. 46 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: I am quest Love. What's up Team Supreme? 47 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 8: Some fucking awesome awesome Sorry this number. 48 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 6: One like this is this is why we started this 49 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 6: podcast exactly for moments like this, straight up, straight up, 50 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: ladies and gentlemen, Our guest. 51 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: Today is simply the Kang King. Hey, yeah, the King Inger. 52 00:03:53,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 9: Stage, King of Rocksbury, Weird Kango fried Chicken. Yes, oh yeah, 53 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 9: got that, King of Pregatives. 54 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 6: I want to thank Bobby Brown for introducing the word 55 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 6: prerogative to the community. 56 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: I did not know what that word was. That word 57 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: you have to really understand something. I didn't know what 58 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: the word was at first. I even spelled the word 59 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: wrong on the record, and the dictionary corrected it in 60 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: the dictionary. Wow, So they rewrote it like I said 61 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: it and like I spelled it, So it was just 62 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: like it was. It was weird for me. I was 63 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: because it's prerogative. It's not perrogative. It's prerogative. That's the 64 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: that's the proper way to say. But they changed it 65 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: in the dictionary to be King of Webster's Brown. Thank 66 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: you for having me, brother sister. Wait a minute, So 67 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: the way I've been spelling prerogative has been wrong, has 68 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: been wrong. 69 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 8: But the whole world, the whole world. 70 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: He introduced that word to the world. Who knew what 71 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: the proprocative was? What is that? 72 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 7: But you know what, it's sure as hell came in 73 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 7: handy when I was had to take the vocabulary test. 74 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 7: What's his eight year old boy know what a progative is? 75 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: Bobby Brown? Bobby Brown, So you do. I'm wonderful, man, 76 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: I'm I'm just I'm just happy today. Last night we 77 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: had the first viewing, the first premier of the Bobby 78 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: Brown Story, and it just went over really good. The 79 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: acceptance from the people that saw it was it was 80 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: out of here. I'm hearing good things about it. What 81 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: McLean is He's Bobby? Is you? Yeah? Yeah, I'm I'm 82 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: gonna sit down in a little while after this tour 83 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: and just let him be Bobby at home with my 84 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: kids and my wife and let him go out on 85 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: the tours. Yeah, send my check back. What's wrong with it? 86 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: What is the process of especially I mean this being 87 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: your second biopick, Like, is there a certain amount of 88 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: time that you have to spend with the person playing 89 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: you do you guys just talk on the phone a lot, 90 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: is it? 91 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: Like? How long did it take him to well? With 92 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: with with me and Woody? Me and Woody got to 93 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: know each other a lot. And when he was doing 94 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: the biopick for New Edition, and after that, you know, 95 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: we knew that we couldn't find somebody else that could 96 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: play that role that well, you know, for my movie. 97 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: And we called him up and me and him had 98 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: been hanging and you know, just going to lunch and talking, 99 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: and he developed all of my mannerisms. He hung out 100 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: with my kids, so he knew my kids and my 101 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: young one of my daughters, she's three years old, swears 102 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: that wood he's a boyfriend. So you know, I'm just, 103 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: I'm just, you know, I try to keep them far 104 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: away from each other. But no, wood he's just he's 105 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: just a great kid, and he's very extremely talented. And 106 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: I just thought that, you know what, let's get this 107 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: boy another shot at it and and watch him just 108 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: saw and he's about to he's about to saw. 109 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: Now, did you use the same younger guy from the 110 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: New Yeah? 111 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: I had to. I had to keep it. I had 112 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: to keep it real. And Gully you know, it was 113 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: just it was just meant to be. You know, the 114 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: way they play off of each other, you know, the 115 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: way they get together and they and they talk about, 116 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: you know, the role of being Bobby and and knowing 117 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: the the person knowing me and being able to be 118 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: around me and see how I am as a person. 119 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: You know, I think gave them a lot of confidence 120 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: and a lot of insight on who I am and 121 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: how do you play this strange character. And they pulled 122 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: it off because. 123 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 8: How does the younger how does the younger Bobby? Who 124 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 8: does he go to? 125 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: He goes to me, He goes to me and my 126 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: youngest son, not my youngest son, but but to little Bobby. 127 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: You know, isn't that my man from a Stranger things? Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. 128 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: He's good. Yeah, he's really good. He's really good and 129 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: such a cool little dude. I mean, you know, I 130 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: saw him last night and me and him and Woody 131 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: were just sitting there and I was just congratulating, excuse me, 132 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: on the great job that they had did, because you know, 133 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: they just brought the whole they brought the whole Bobby 134 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: across so well. I mean, and I was just I 135 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 3: was sitting there and I was just like, I was 136 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 3: almost in tears and sometimes but then I was like, 137 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: pull it back, pull it back, you know, don't don't 138 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: cry in front of all of these people. So what angle. 139 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: Or approach did you take to tell in your life 140 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: story that was different than the new edition biopicking because 141 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: I know when you first came it was like when 142 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: you first met Ralph or whatever like, So this deals 143 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: with your life and your household in Roxbury. 144 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: Yes, this deals with the first time I experienced tragedy, 145 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: the first time that I lost someone in my life. 146 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: When I was young. I was just a child and 147 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: I had lost my grandmother and right after my grandmother, 148 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: right after a funeral, you know, and me, you know, 149 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 3: not feeling, not feeling anybody. My best friend Jimmy was 150 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: able to, you know, pick me up and was like, 151 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: come on, let's go have some fun because I was 152 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: just I was done, I mean done. Because she was 153 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: the one that turned me onto music. 154 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 6: You know. 155 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 3: She had every record, every album of every artist in 156 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: her house and she would just let me play all 157 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 3: of the music that I wanted to and listen to 158 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: everything that I wanted to listen to, and she would 159 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: show me different things to listen to, and then she 160 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: taught me how to play piano. And when she passed, 161 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: it was just like, now where do I now, Where 162 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 3: do I get this this music from? Where do I 163 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 3: get this passion that I have in my heart? And 164 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: once I once I lost her and me and Jimmy, Uh, 165 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: it's the first scene. So me and Jimmy, we steal 166 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 3: some bikes, you know, we go riding on the bikes 167 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: and we pull up to a you know, a house 168 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: party and you know, somebody messes with the bikes that 169 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: we just stole, and he got into a fight with 170 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: this spare guy and the guy, you know, Jimmy was 171 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: whooping his you know, whopping his ass, and somebody threw 172 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 3: the guy and threw the guy a knife, and the guy, 173 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 3: one of my boys, kicked him in the back and 174 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: he lunged towards Jimmy and and killed him, stabbed him 175 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 3: in his heart. And that was the second, the second 176 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: you know, tragedy, and that was the that was the point. 177 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: That was the time when I got to the point 178 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: where it wasn't about mourning or anything like that. It 179 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: was about getting myself out of the situation. That I 180 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 3: was in getting my family out of the projects, getting 181 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: my family to better, better surroundings. And that's when I 182 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: created a new addition and from that point it was 183 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 3: all history. So you officially created Like, were you the 184 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: the epicenter and the one that gathered them? Yes? Yes. 185 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: I asked Michael Bivens that he wanted to in my 186 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: group because I had been doing talent shows by myself, 187 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: so I knew all of them. We all stayed on 188 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: different sides of the projects. So I talked to Michael, 189 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 3: you know, asked him did he want to be in 190 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: a group with me. He said, you know, yeah, you know, 191 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 3: as long as it don't interfere with my basketball. But 192 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 3: it did. And then we asked Ricky and Ricky was 193 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: like he was totally down. And Ricky said, you know, 194 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: I know this kid that could really sing, that could 195 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: really sing. And I was saying to him, you know, 196 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be doing most of the vocals. I'm gonna be, 197 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: you know, the singer, the lead singer. And when I 198 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: heard Ralph singing, I just lost it. I was like, okay, okay, okay, 199 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: all right, that's cool. Can he could do the songs? 200 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: So I eventually put myself in the background a little bit. 201 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: You know, I was okay. I was okay with it 202 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: because he sounded too much like Michael Jackson, and it 203 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 3: was just like, you know, this is this, this is 204 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: how we're going to get out of here. We're going 205 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: to get out of here by not imitating but being 206 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: the second coming of uh of the finest boy band 207 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: ever in the history, which is the Jackson's, and us 208 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: coming behind them was just everything. Then we met Ronnie 209 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: from our choreographer, Brooke Payne. How did you How did 210 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: you who officially met Brooke Payne? Me, Michael and Ricky. Yeah, me, 211 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 3: Michael and Ricky went up to him and we was like, 212 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: you know, we was like, we want you, we want 213 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 3: you to well. Ralph was there also. We was like, 214 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: we want you to check us out. We want you 215 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: to manage us, because he was managing so many groups 216 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: and in our neighborhood. The Untouchables transitions, you know, when 217 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: these boys were shop, I mean were they all singing, Yeah, 218 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: they were singing and dancing and they were just they 219 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: was a lot older than we were, real quick the transitions. 220 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 7: I was reading your book and I noticed that and 221 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 7: I believe BIV was in that group, right, No, he 222 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 7: was involved with them another group called Transitions. Later on, 223 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 7: I was wondering if it was the same crew. 224 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 5: No. 225 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: No, me and me and BIV worked with a group. 226 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: I forget the name of him, but you know, me 227 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: and Mike danced with this group and. 228 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: We uh. 229 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: When we wanted to leave, they didn't. They wouldn't let 230 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: us leave. So we broke in the house and we 231 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: stole the truth. We broke in the house and stole 232 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: all the trophies that we had won because they wouldn't 233 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: let us take the trophy trophies home with us. So 234 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: we knew we were you know, the reason they want 235 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: those trophies. So they wouldn't let us get the trophies. 236 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: So we broke in the house and took the trophies 237 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: and Mike would let let me have it for a 238 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: week and give it to him and he'd keep it 239 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: at his house for a week. And one of them 240 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: came to you, like, someone talk about trophies. Do you 241 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: know who did it? Nope, Okay, now they didn't. They 242 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: didn't even think. They didn't even think about that. 243 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: I hear a lot about what life was like in Roxbury, 244 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, but usually it's like yo, man, I'll mess 245 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: with Roxbury. 246 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: But what was Roxbury the toughest of the tough like? 247 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: Was that? 248 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: What was it like growing up in a city, especially 249 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: with racial tensions were so high between black and white 250 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: people up there and badly high. 251 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: You know, we couldn't go in their neighborhood at all. 252 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: We couldn't go in South Boston without being jumped or 253 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: bricked or you know, and we had to pass through 254 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: there to get to another project, which which was Columbia Point, 255 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: which most of our most of our people that lived 256 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: in Orchard Park had some family in Colombia Point. So 257 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: it was hard to get through get through South Boston 258 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: to get to Columbia Point. Columbia Point was like where 259 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: the beach was, and you know, all of that type 260 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: of stuff, the clam digging and fishing and all of that. 261 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was, it was, it was. It was 262 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: just you know, it's just, I don't know, Boston is 263 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: so diverse, but it's it's still probably the most prejudiced city, yeah, 264 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: in this country still even still even still, but you know, 265 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: since since hip hop has come along, they basically tried 266 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: to be us. You know, and I think that's what 267 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: they was mad about before, because they wanted to be 268 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: us and just didn't have the color for you know, 269 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: the connection is Boston still home for you or you're 270 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: based out here now. I'm based in Los Angeles Woodland 271 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: Hills with my family, and I'm very happy I'm not 272 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: moving back to the East Coast. That cold does not 273 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: agree with me at all at all, not at all. 274 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: Speak on at least with Brooke Payning. 275 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: What I always loved about you guys was that, you know, 276 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: you guys were the fine line between what the Temptations represented, 277 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: but you were also very much what hip hop. 278 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: Was about to be. 279 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: So it was almost like you guys were a thin 280 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: line between Temptations and what Utfo was doing with Houdini 281 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: those early days. But how how many like painstaking hours 282 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: of practice did oh man. 283 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 3: That take? Oh my god, Let's see. We would get 284 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 3: out of school like three o'clock, have to be at 285 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: rehearsals by four. We had to go home, do our 286 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: homework and stuff and make it to rehearsals and don't 287 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: be late because you know you're doing push ups or 288 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: you're doing sit ups, or you're you know, you're running 289 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: around the building. You know, Yes, basically that's how it was. 290 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: But we would respected that. Yeah, I mean the group, 291 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 3: if you made me no, it was it was. It 292 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: was what we felt that he let us know what 293 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: was needed for us to you know, be one of 294 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 3: the top notch groups. Was you know, to perfect our craft. 295 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: If we perfected our craft, there's nobody that could stop us. 296 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: And that's how we looked at it. That you know, 297 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: all of the all of the you know, long nights 298 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: and and and long days of just dancing and dancing 299 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: and not singing. He wouldn't want you to sing yet, 300 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: but just dancing, like four hours of just straight dancing, 301 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: doing the steps within without the music, and then there'll 302 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: be two hours of us singing, you know, and we 303 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: would be singing, you know, just like regular R and 304 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: B songs. You know, we didn't have music, our own 305 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: music at this point, so we were singing, you know, 306 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: like holding on. Yeah, we got the INTERVIEWE. He was 307 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: so happy about that we were singing, that we were 308 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: singing Jackson songs. We were doing like the medley of 309 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: you know, the Jackson Medley. We would do that like 310 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: maybe four times in a row, just do that whole 311 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: thing four times in a row, and then we would 312 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: just you know, work on other songs, just any song 313 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: that was out there that was popular. We would make 314 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: a routine to it, you know, because we were still 315 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 3: doing talent shows. But we got we got kicked out 316 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: of doing talent shows because we kept winning. So we 317 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 3: had to stop being we had to stop being special 318 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: guests of the talent show, like it's a talent show 319 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: with special guests New Edition. Were there were there any 320 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: other notable. 321 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: Uh Boston acts that eventually made it that were in 322 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: no these talent shows, like nobody from liked the Planet 323 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: Patrol or any any of those. 324 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 3: Guys No Planet Patrol. They were older and all of that. 325 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: But that was Maurice's brothers. But when we when we 326 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: when we lost the competition, we lost the first the 327 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: first competition we ever lost was the Hollywood Talent Night. 328 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: And this was for a recording contract. We were going 329 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: to be able to go into the studio and record 330 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: a record with Marie Starr. And we lost. We lost 331 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 3: to these these two two goofy goofy rappers and their 332 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: name was New York Rappers. Now that that was their name. 333 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: There was the New York. There was the New York Rappers, 334 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: but they was from Mattapen in Boston. Neither one of 335 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: them had been out of Boston or ever been to 336 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: New York. But they just called themselves the New York Rappers. 337 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: But they beat us, and I haven't heard a peep 338 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: out of them yet. It was rigged. It was really 339 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: they they did it. They were good. No, that was 340 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: the whole thing. They wasn't even doing any and for 341 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: them to beat us, we were just like what. Like 342 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: Maurice came over to us and he was like, he 343 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: was like, I'm just this is just because I want 344 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: to sign y'all. I don't want this other label to 345 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: get y'all. He wanted to record and signed to his label. 346 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: So we were just like, okay, Maurice just put us 347 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 3: in the studio. Then that Marie's always dressed like that, 348 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: because I've only seen that. The Colonel Prince, how was 349 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: he he? That was him all the time, That was 350 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: him all the time. 351 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: Wow, was he doing old to somebody or he was 352 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: just was he doing old to somebody like his grandpapa 353 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: used to dress like that or not? 354 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. He just was that was his foule. 355 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: You know that was just Maurice. What was what was 356 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: Michael Johnson's relation? What was this? Michael Johnson is Marie 357 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: Star's brother. Okay, so together they worked together. 358 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: Because I got admit, when y'all gave a shout out 359 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: on the Candy Girl twelve inch, I thought it was 360 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. 361 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: I knew it, knew Michael. I knew it. 362 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: Hey real quick, you said you said that at one 363 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: point James Brown had pulled you up on stage. 364 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: Yes, when I was, when I was younger, I was 365 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: I must have been like seven seven, yeah, about seven 366 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: six or seven. And my mom she knew I liked 367 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: James Brown, and she brought me to the place called 368 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: the Sugar Shack where he was he was performing. Of 369 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: course she snuck me was at your spot. Oh, I 370 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: founded that at the same time. She snuck me in there. 371 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 3: And James is on stage and he's doing his thing, 372 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: and my mother just put me on the stage and 373 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: I just started cancing. He stopped his band. He was like, 374 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, hold on, come out, let me 375 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: see you do that. And he did did his thing, 376 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: and I did the same thing. Right then he did 377 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: something else and I did that, and he was just 378 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: he was in all and I was just looking up 379 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: at this man like, man, I'm gonna be just like 380 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: you one day. One day I'm out. One day I'm 381 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: gonna be just like you did your pasitive across again. 382 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: After that, Yes, yes, a few times. We talked a 383 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: few times because we both were living in Georgia at 384 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: the time and we both did it. We did this 385 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: one concert at the at the Big Field. It's a 386 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: big field that I forget the name of it. It's 387 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: the baseball field where the Braves pay. So we did 388 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: a concert there. It was a big benefit concert and 389 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: I was able to, you know, sit down and talk 390 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: to talk to him at that time, and you know, 391 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: I was. He told me just go stand on the 392 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: side of stage and I was like, oh my god, 393 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: I'm standing on the side of the stage and I'm 394 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: just watching, just watching it. And I told him about 395 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: the time in Boston when I was younger, and I said, 396 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: do you remember me? 397 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 10: He was like, I had a lot of people come 398 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 10: on my stage, but you know, I don't know if 399 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 10: I remember you, but I remember this one kid, one 400 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 10: kid that could do all the dance steps. 401 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: That I was. I was like, that's me. 402 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: So did you always have this confidence? Like you said, 403 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: seven years old, your mother said go ahead, and you 404 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 2: was just, oh, yeah. 405 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah I was. I've never been shy about anything. I 406 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: just think, you know, why be shy when you can 407 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 3: just be yourself, you know, and just let it go. 408 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: You know, there's no reason to hold anything that God 409 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: has given you back. Yeah, we had we had a babyface. 410 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: He was on the show a while back and he 411 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: said about you specifically. He was like, man, I don't 412 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 3: seen a lot of acts and I'll produce on everybody, 413 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: and he compared you. 414 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 6: He was like, man, Bobby was like a prize fighter. 415 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 6: He was like, he said, Bob will come out. He 416 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 6: was like he was relentless on stage. That was I mean, 417 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 6: that was him talking about you, just your your work 418 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 6: ethicing on stage. He said, man, Bob took no prisoners. 419 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 6: I don't play I don't play with that. I do 420 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 6: not play with that. 421 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: When it comes to being our stage, a whole total 422 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: different person. 423 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: That's gonna ask, So your solo career, how did that translate? 424 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: Like all that rehearsals that you used to do when 425 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: you was a little boy and whatnot. What was the 426 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: difference in the rehearsals process for you now that you 427 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: had like your own dancers and whatnot, Like were you 428 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: I haven't had. 429 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: And your dances? What were their names? It was pop? 430 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 3: So what was what was always part and so and so, Yeah, 431 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: that's what was called. That was I was like, what 432 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: was the name? I didn't know? So I didn't Black 433 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: Mysteries unlocked right here Bobby's dance and so, okay, did you. 434 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 8: Turn into in that way? 435 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 3: Did you way with your yes and no at the 436 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: same time, because you know, I mean when we was 437 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: rehearsing with Brooke, I mean we had to rehearse in 438 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: a really hot, smoke filled room because Brooks chained smoked 439 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: Newports during our whole rehearsal. So it was just like 440 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: and it was like ninety degrees up in there, so 441 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: we were sweating and all we was doing was breathing 442 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: in Newports. And it's a shot that only me and 443 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 3: Ralph turned out to be smokers. Nobody else but me 444 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: and Ralph turned out, you know, to stop smoking after 445 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: you know, several years of just being in the room 446 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: like hand inhaling all of that. So you know, other 447 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: than that, you know, Brooke was always just He's a 448 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: stickler for you know, perfection. With my guys, I was 449 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: just I was the type to tell them to dance loose, 450 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: but dance but dance tight. You know, always be in 451 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: formation and follow me, you know, because I might do something. 452 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: I might do something slick and out of the step 453 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: of what the actual step is, and I need you 454 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: all to remember it so the next show they will 455 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: remember the slick, build on and build on and build on. 456 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 3: So it just got it just started growing, and we 457 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: got closer, and it was just we were able to 458 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: read each other when we were on stage, and that 459 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: was a good part. Then we got Mecca and the 460 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: La Connection dancers, which were you know, uh, four girls 461 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: from New York, four girls from l A and we 462 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 3: put them together. It was a lot of fights though, 463 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: it was like the Bloods and the Cribs. Yeah, Leslie 464 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 3: was the big less on Facebook occasion. 465 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: Can you just tell me this is always a mystery 466 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: to me. Who was the girl who was always in 467 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: the videos with the short cut, slender brown skin. But 468 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: she was in my prerogative and she had the short hair. 469 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 8: She was planked. 470 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 3: Oh that's Cloudsier, Okay, because you used to see her. 471 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 8: She had an error. I felt like, huh, I felt 472 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 8: like she had an era like she was she. 473 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: Videos after that. 474 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm sure she had an aura. 475 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 11: But I just I was about to, you know, but 476 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 11: I hold it back back, you know, but you know, 477 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 11: you did skip a decade. 478 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 8: So I'm sorry. 479 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: I was. 480 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: My mind fast forward. You know, it's good. It's all good. 481 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: So for me, even even though I know what what 482 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: the initial by a pic had depicted, but how well, 483 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: what I want to do is, first of all, what 484 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: was the what's the term he used with Randy? Oh, 485 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: the click? What was the what was as far as 486 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: like your your new addition situation? Who were the clicks? 487 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: Like who was who was your friend in the band 488 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: that you were close to? 489 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: We were all all clicks at certain times, you know, 490 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: at certain times of the day, I would be with 491 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: like Ronnie, you know, playing cards or something like that. 492 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: Then there was certain times that me and Ralph would 493 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: you know, be kicking it and just doing what we do, 494 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: you know, goofing off and stuff like that, going to 495 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: buy water guns and you know, spraying everybody on the tour. 496 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: Then it was me and Mike, who's the who's the thinker. 497 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: He's like a big think tank. So you know, I'd 498 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 3: like to pick his brain every now and then. You know, 499 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: and then Ricky, Ricky's just Ricky is just Ricky. You know, 500 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: you just get around Ricky and Ricky just he's quiet. 501 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: If you say something, he'll agree with you. And that's 502 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: just how Ricky is. Ricky agrees with, you know, most 503 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: of the things that everybody says. But he's super intelligent. 504 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: He knows what's right and what's wrong. And that's where 505 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: you that's who you go to to tell if there's 506 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 3: three against two and a vote, you go to Ricky, 507 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 3: and he's a swing vote. Yeah, he's a swing vote. 508 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: You know, you got to get to him. Ronnie always 509 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: seemed to just be so cool man. He's one of 510 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: the most laid back dudes in the world. I'm so 511 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: proud of him. He just had twins. Yeah, yeah, I mean, 512 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: you know, I'm just really proud of him. He knows, 513 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: he knows what he wants, and he knows how to 514 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: go get it. You know, he's he's bought so much 515 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: property in Detroit that is incredible. 516 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 8: I mean, then he's starting Atlanta and he moves he's 517 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 8: now moving to. 518 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: He started it, he started his his his business in Atlanta. 519 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: But he's yes buying, buying land in different places. And 520 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: I commend him because Detroit is about to get a 521 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: whole big facelift. You know, Japanese, Chinese or I don't know, 522 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: the Japanese are going into. Japanese put like ten billion 523 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: dollars into already Detroit already, and it's like build industries, 524 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: build industries, you know, the Forward Company, all of that, 525 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: all of that's being rebuilt up and there'll be more 526 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 3: jobs and the homes will shoot up. You know, it's 527 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: almost about to be. So I recommend that for most 528 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: people out there listening, go buy you some property. Go 529 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: buy you some property in Detroit and watch it and 530 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: just sit on it for a little while. 531 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 8: Out rent the community, you know. You know what I'm saying. 532 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: About gentrification, havitable, It is coming a little at what 533 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: they're selling them houses like five thousand dollars. 534 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 8: Flip those. 535 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: It's going to be. That's the name of it. Yeah, 536 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: that's business. Let's call it Ronnie right now. 537 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: So when when you guys first started touring and traveling, HM, 538 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: I first saw you guys at I think you're a 539 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: valid for it's music fair. Okay, you did a bunch 540 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: of like these small venues where uh, where the stage 541 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: is always in the center or whatever. I forget, Yeah, 542 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: what you're this was? I think there's like eighty three 543 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: eighty four. But how how did that affect you as 544 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: far as like finally making it out of out of 545 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: Boston and did you feel like, Okay, we finally made 546 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: it or yeah, probably so. 547 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: We used to before before Candy Girl became a number 548 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: one record, we would come to New York. We would 549 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: go to New York and we would perform like five 550 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: shows a night. We would play all five bottles, and 551 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: we would start at like eleven at night and we 552 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: would just go to each We used to go to 553 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: each club or each roller skating rin and just play 554 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 3: from from eleven o'clock all the way to six that morning. 555 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: We will get in We would finally get in bed 556 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: by six that morning and get some rest and do 557 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: it again on Saturday. And then Sunday we would get 558 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 3: all into this station wag excuse me, the station wagon 559 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: and we would drive back to Boston. How old are 560 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: you at this time? Like fourteen fifteen? Couldn't even drive 561 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: it fourteen damn your homework done in the car. So 562 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: it was required, like tutors and all that stuff. Tutors 563 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: were required. My mom wasn't letting me not, you know, 564 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 3: get my education. She didn't play that. Yo. 565 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: The way that they they played your moms out in 566 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: the movie amazing. 567 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: Was this where do you see this? The same? Just 568 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: the same. Yes, Sandy McCree was Sandy McCree. And we 569 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: have T. K. Carter playing my father whow where we 570 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: bound him? But he is playing the hell out of 571 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 3: my father and he knew my father, so you know, 572 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 3: it was just like it was just like so great 573 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: that he came to that that try out for the movie. 574 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: And when they told us it was T. K. Carter, 575 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 3: I was like, that's him because I was going I 576 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: was going for a John Witherspoon or somebody like that. 577 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: I was going for John Witherspoon because my father was hilarious. 578 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 3: I mean just just hilarious. He would do the whole 579 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 3: coordinate thing. He loved the dress. You know, he was 580 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: just that man. He was just that man that kept 581 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: everybody laughing in the house. Everybody that met my father 582 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: called them pops. Everybody everybody in the projects just called 583 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: them pops. 584 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 6: When you started working on your first album on King 585 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 6: of Stage, my man Lavel we were talking off Mike 586 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 6: Homie Lavell Molten, he's a basketball coach at my alma mater. 587 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 6: He was telling me that you used to pass out. 588 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 6: He was passing out tapes like back in the hood. 589 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 6: Like even though what was that like, man, it was 590 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 6: tapes in some other things. Anyway, it wasn't just tapes. 591 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 6: Probably tapes had packages in there. 592 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: But that that was the time when you know, I 593 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 3: was put out a new addition, and you know, I 594 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 3: had one chance to you know, do it again. I 595 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: never gave up on myself, but at the same time, 596 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: the only way for me to survive at that time 597 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: was to sell drugs and do what I had to 598 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 3: do to you know, keep my sanity, you know, from 599 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: not making the little bit of money that we was 600 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 3: making on the tours. I had to find a way 601 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: to make money to take care of my baby boy. 602 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: I had a baby boy, so I had to you know, 603 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 3: have some type of income. And yeah, but when Girlfriend 604 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: hit and it was a number one record and I 605 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: was able to tour and stuff, and that just opened 606 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 3: it opened the door up for me to be able 607 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: to do another record, and then Little Solace Junr introduced 608 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 3: me to Kenny Babyface Edmonds in La Reid and I 609 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 3: just was like what. And when you see the movie 610 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 3: you'll know why I said what, because they were they 611 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: was yeah, they was just totally dress wrong, you know, 612 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 3: and you know the thing all right hair, they thought makeup, 613 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: and it was just like I was like, dude, I 614 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: was like, come in, guys, right, come in, man, come in, 615 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 3: please please tell me I don't have to work with them. 616 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: With I know I know where you were trying to 617 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: go because when I purchased King of Stage, I knew 618 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: it's worried that even though I didn't know what a 619 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: new Jack swing was in nineteen eighty six, because technically 620 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: where they had been it yet, right, I kind of 621 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: knew what you were going for because you know, you 622 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: were like be boxing on some of the songs that 623 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: Larry Black, you know, but it was how hard I 624 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: can tell where you. 625 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: Were trying to go with it. 626 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: But either technology or maybe Teddy just had a better 627 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: vision on how to make that shit bund right. So, 628 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: especially like with the title cut, which I thought the 629 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: title cut was like, Okay, that's the closest thing to 630 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: a Houdini or a run DMC sound. Did it ever 631 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: occur to you to ask U who produced yeah, Larry Smith? 632 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: Did it ever occur to you to go to Larry Smith? 633 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: Who you know? 634 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: His work with Houdini and run DMC was like the 635 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: closest thing to an R and B hip hop mess 636 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: that there was Like, did you get a choice in 637 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: saying I want to work with them? 638 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: Them them? Or was Lou Silace just like Nope, you 639 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 3: can know Black Lou Silas was like this. He was. 640 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 3: He was basically, if you work with these people, then 641 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 3: you could work with whoever you wanted to work with. 642 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 3: And that's what he told me about working with La 643 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 3: and Face. Okay, so my first my first person, I said. 644 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 3: I told him, I said, well, I gotta go fly 645 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 3: to New York and I got to work with Teddy Riley. 646 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: How did you know about Teddy? Because Teddy meuse he 647 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 3: was he was in a boys group kids kids will 648 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 3: work and he used to just I used to see 649 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 3: him all the time walking with this cassio key and 650 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: he used to always I would stop him at Raise 651 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: Pizza right there fifty seven just stop him and just 652 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 3: be listening to some of the grooves he had, and 653 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 3: it was just like it was just meant to be, 654 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 3: you know. And he was telling me he was starting 655 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 3: up a new group called Guy and you know, he 656 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 3: had just finished working with this this guy called Keith 657 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 3: Sweat and he played me that and I was like, okay. 658 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I got some tracks that I 659 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 3: want you to hear. And I had this one baseline 660 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 3: that I couldn't I couldn't, couldn't do anything with and 661 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 3: it was Prerogatives baseline. And Teddy came with this groove man, 662 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: that was just it just it just fits so perfectly. 663 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 3: And then I met Aaron and me and Aaron just 664 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 3: just click like this, Yeah, Aaron Hall, we just clicked. 665 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 3: I went on the subway for the first time in 666 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 3: New York City with him to Brooklyn and we basically 667 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: wrote the lyrics to Prerogative on that subway. Yes, yes, 668 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know, though thought y'all did. 669 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 8: I don't want to seem stupid, But. 670 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 3: Jene Griffin came and messed that up right. Yeah, took 671 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 3: all of the credit on the record. Because Teddy was 672 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 3: in a litigation with I guess two people who whoever 673 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: he had signed He had signed a production deal with somebody, 674 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 3: and Jeene Griffin put it under his name so that 675 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 3: Teddy can receive something, you know, from prerogative. And then 676 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 3: Teddy got his you know, publishing and all of this 677 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 3: stuff back. So you know, Jean did a great thing 678 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 3: for him. You know, he held he held him down 679 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 3: and he helped him, you know, you know, be the 680 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 3: businessman that he is. Oh. I always thought it was 681 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: a thing where he just jack Yes, No, he didn't 682 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 3: jock him. He didn't jock him. He was He was 683 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: very much taken care of Teddy as well as he 684 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 3: possibly could. 685 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: I mean, knowing no one can planned for the phenomenon 686 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: that was, don't be cruel, like nobody saw it coming 687 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: thirty years ago. But did you did you really feel 688 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: as though because even in my mind, like I'm just 689 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: thinking like, okay, there's Michael, there's Prince, no one else, 690 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: and you know, I just thinking like everyone else is underly, 691 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: But it's suddenly like the people that you grow up 692 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: idolizing now you're pushing them to the side a little bit. 693 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 3: So what was that transition? Like, Like, have you ever 694 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 3: personally met Michael Jackson and had interaction. What was that like? 695 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 5: It was? 696 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 3: It was? It was great. I met him when I 697 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 3: was with the new audition. He invited a new addition 698 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: to his home and we hung out with him the 699 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 3: whole day. I mean, it was just it was just crazy. 700 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 3: All the book and animals. What can you tell the 701 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 3: story about from the book about him chasing LaToya and 702 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 3: jennit around? Yeah, wait, what happened? Well, we were all 703 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 3: running around and we were chasing We were just running 704 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 3: around and uh, LaToya was, you know, standing somewhere and 705 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: he smacked her on her ass and all of us 706 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 3: was like, all of us was like, oh, I want 707 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 3: to smack her, but we didn't. We didn't smack her 708 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 3: ass like he did. But it was just Oh my god, 709 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: just to be and and you know, I had always 710 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 3: had a crush on Janet, so it was just like 711 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: just to be in the same room with her at 712 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 3: that time was you know, it was, oh my god, 713 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 3: She's standing right next to me. She feel the same 714 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: way she spoke to me. Matter like last week almost 715 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 3: passed out man. Yeah, well you'll see some scenes in 716 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 3: my movie about Janet. So what was doing feel different? 717 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 3: About it. 718 00:42:53,040 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 6: Oh, no spoilers. What was you in relationship? Like in 719 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 6: the studio, man, Like, how did y'all vibe off each other? 720 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 3: We bobbed really well off each other. You know. It 721 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 3: wasn't no rush thing. We knew that when we had 722 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 3: something hot. We knew what we had and we would 723 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: take our time and take our time and get it, 724 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 3: get it down, get it down perfectly, and then we 725 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 3: go out, you know, we'll go eat or you know, 726 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 3: just go chill out, playpool, you know. And then but 727 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 3: the first time, the first time with Prerogative, he was 728 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 3: living in the projects. So we in Harlem in the 729 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 3: projects on the first floor, and you know, the booth 730 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 3: was a bathroom, you know. So we literally did it, 731 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 3: and we did and we did. Prerogative recorded it in 732 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 3: the bathroom in his apartment. That's where we did the vocals. 733 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 3: What all of them? What did y'all what we all 734 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 3: recording on like a four track or was six sixteen tracks? 735 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 3: M yeah, I know his set up was ate that thing. Yeah, yeah, 736 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 3: in the So the vocal we hear today was the 737 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 3: vocal that you cut. We cut in the in the bathroom. 738 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: So in your mind, whenever you hear those vocals from 739 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: that record you're just thinking of, like there's tooth brush, toothpaste. 740 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: Close up, close up. They don't make close up anymore. 741 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 3: I don't know that hot ass just hot mouth fans 742 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 3: close up Dollar General. 743 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 5: You know. 744 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 3: The one thing I remember, you know, about recording that 745 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 3: song was was just just you know, the kinship you know, 746 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 3: between me, Aaron him, Big Bub was even there, you know. 747 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 3: So it was a bunch of singers and you know, 748 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 3: a bunch of people that love music and love being 749 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 3: a part of you know, what music was going to become, 750 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 3: and it was just fun to just be around it, 751 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 3: you know, and all of us, all of us out 752 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: there giving one hundred and ten percent, you know, trying 753 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 3: to make it out. I knew that Aaron was a singer, 754 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 3: but I read somewhere was Aaron a keyboard player as well? 755 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 3: Eric Can played the piano like yeah, like what's his name? 756 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 3: With all the jewry wait Erican played the piano like Liberaci, 757 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 3: I mean, play the piano play You were tracked? You 758 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 3: did you track the majority of the album in New 759 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 3: York City? No, the majority of the album was done 760 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 3: here in silver Lake, Okay, with La and Face and 761 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 3: me and Teddy did our stuff over there in New York, 762 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 3: and then I I did some more stuff in the 763 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 3: Bay Area and then you know, just mostly la though. 764 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 7: You guys recorded forty songs for the album. Yeah, how 765 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 7: many of them? Like, did you ever revisit any of 766 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 7: them later on? 767 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 3: Or yeah? I still have them in my garage actually, yeah, 768 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 3: the masters in my garage. Yes, I don't know yet. 769 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think, you know, I'm let my 770 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 3: son listen to a bunch of them and see what 771 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: he likes and see how you know, he feels about 772 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 3: him because he's recording his album right now. So so 773 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to, you know, helping both of 774 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 3: my oldest son and my middle son are both you know, 775 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 3: recording out us. So you know, I'm just trying to 776 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 3: lay back and let them do what they do. And 777 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 3: then when I see him, you know, going straight pull 778 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: a coat and you know. 779 00:46:53,760 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 6: What's because I feel like most of us, like, what 780 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,479 Speaker 6: was the what was the workflow, like you talk about 781 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 6: you and Teddy's vibe, what was the difference with Elien Face? 782 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 3: What were they like in the studio, like in y'all sessions. 783 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 3: Because of the person that I am they have to 784 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 3: go with the flow. They had to go with how 785 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 3: I was this is Bobby Brown session. Wow, you mean 786 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 3: like I'll be there, you know there there three means 787 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 3: that I'll be there. 788 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 8: Always, no matter who you was working with. They had 789 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 8: to adjust. 790 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, basically because you know, it was just sometimes 791 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: I'm late. I mean sometimes you gottes. But but but 792 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 3: I've learned a new way of living and being late 793 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 3: is not cool. You know, you need to be on 794 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 3: time so that you can get your work done and 795 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 3: be able to do Stop looking at you, stop looking 796 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 3: at question, you're a little late, looking at it in 797 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 3: my direction? Whatever. 798 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 6: Steve once once Don't be Crewe became and the album 799 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 6: once it becomes that just this months everywhere? 800 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 3: What how did your life change? Then? What what happens? 801 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 3: Oh boy? I started touring a lot more. Of course, 802 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 3: I was torn with heart the Heartbreak tour. I was 803 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 3: touring with them. I was opening up for I'll Be 804 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: Sure and then Don't Be Crew hit and Prerogative hit 805 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 3: and we have to switch. And then you know, of course, 806 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 3: you know, stopped having problems because you know, New Edition 807 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 3: was you know, kind of hating on me because of 808 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 3: the success of don't be Crewe, and they didn't want 809 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 3: me to, you know, film the Roney video on that tour. 810 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: So I told him, Okay, well if they if they, 811 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 3: if they, if they can Roney, I'll have them film 812 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,479 Speaker 3: y'all show. So I paid for the cameras to film 813 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 3: the show. And so then I was like I talked 814 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 3: to Al Hayman, who was the promoter, and I was like, 815 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 3: that keeps coming up. I was like, dude, I need 816 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 3: my own tour. I got to go out on my 817 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 3: own tour. And he said okay. So we went and 818 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 3: got Lavert and Karen White and we went out and 819 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 3: just and just smashed, and we toured for over three 820 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 3: years with that album. 821 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 7: My sister saw a heartbreak tour and Don't Be Cruel 822 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 7: tour without me, and I still hate them for it. 823 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: Having technically yet to see the biopic. And you address 824 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: it in the Rooney video. But what was the situation 825 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: with my memories, Foggy? What what arena had a problem with? 826 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 1: Are you dancing? 827 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 3: Or was Georgia Georgia. I guess they had heard about, 828 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 3: you know, my my stage show, but they still you know, 829 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,439 Speaker 3: wanted me to come to Georgia. The police had told 830 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 3: me right before the concert, no sexual indoors, no getting 831 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 3: close to the girls. Can't bring girls up on your stage. 832 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 3: We don't want We don't want to see you pelvic 833 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 3: thrusting or anything. So they didn't want Bobby Brown. How 834 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 3: do they know it was coming? Because it's like you've yet. 835 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 3: They had heard the word had been spreading, you know, 836 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 3: throughout the country on how I performed. That's why they 837 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:39,919 Speaker 3: called me bad boy. 838 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 8: Okay, pumped really hard. I remember you remember watching like I. 839 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 5: Did. 840 00:50:53,400 --> 00:51:00,760 Speaker 3: Used to get in trouble for you know, Brown, pilvoc 841 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 3: thrust for me, it got me in trouble. In fourth grade. 842 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 6: We were doing a talent show and I was gonna 843 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,439 Speaker 6: dance and I opened up with four pervit threast. 844 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 3: It was over just like down over here. It was 845 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 3: well fourth grade. Yeah, it was about the same for 846 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 3: me too. So my little nine year old is pumping down. 847 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 3: Is it weird for you? Stop? 848 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: Is it weird for your kids to discover that you're 849 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: not dad? You're that guy I'm seeing on television. How 850 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: did they discover? 851 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 3: No, they basically know. I try to show them as 852 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 3: much as possible about me. Yeah, trying to show my son, 853 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 3: my nine year old Cassius. He's a he's a dancer himself. 854 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 3: He's a ballroom he does ballroom dancing. You know, he's running. Yes, 855 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god. You should see his little hips doing 856 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 3: the tango and doing the chi and all of this. 857 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 3: I mean, and he's won six competitions by him and 858 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 3: his little dance partner. It's just a girl. Oh my god. 859 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 3: I mean he has to holds the head up and 860 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 3: shoulders and the hips I mean straight. So the last 861 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 3: one he just ended up jumped up in the inn, 862 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 3: came down to full split. 863 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: I was wow, please wait. This is the thing though, 864 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: What after you did what you did? Did they physically 865 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 1: come out and stop the show and the rescue. 866 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 3: No, they waited for me to come off stage. Oh 867 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 3: so they let the show go on and then they 868 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 3: had to It's not depicted like that in the movie 869 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 3: because we didn't have time to you know, technicality checkers. Yeah, 870 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 3: so this is what happened. When I got off stage. 871 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 3: I had my brother put on my robe and they 872 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 3: followed him out at first diversion diversion, and I was 873 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,760 Speaker 3: in one of the anvil cases. Oh, they was pushing 874 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 3: the anvil case up the up the hill and they 875 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 3: took the thing off of Tommy and realized that it 876 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 3: wasn't me. So they followed the anvolcase and soon as 877 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 3: soon as they opened the amvlcase, they were cops. Was 878 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 3: right there. 879 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 8: Wow, the worst way to get caught. 880 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 3: Yes, trying to evade. 881 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 8: Police another charge. 882 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird, because that's what that's what I remember 883 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: about the show that I saw. You guys used to 884 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 1: enter in this like this trojan horse sort of vehicle 885 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: where they had to push y'all to the stage inside 886 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: of this wooden device. So girls would attack y'all. So, yes, 887 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: y'all are like the original kings of Anvil case. 888 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 3: When we would do that, we would do that. That 889 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 3: was that was one of the tricks of brook Paye 890 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 3: and just of the trade. You know, we liked being attacked. Yeah, 891 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 3: we don't wrong. We were younger, but we were We 892 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 3: was you know, girl crazy, So we loved, you know, 893 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 3: being able to see all the all of the chicks, 894 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 3: all of all of the young little hobbies. You know, right, 895 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 3: we were cool with that. But you know now our 896 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 3: managers they was like, girls are only gonna get y'all 897 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 3: in trouble. We was like, well, that's some trouble. We 898 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 3: would like to give you that trouble man. Please answer 899 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 3: for us. Who was Jackie? Oh god, yes, who is that? 900 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 6: Was that? 901 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 3: Just? I love you Jackie? There was nobody. There was 902 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,280 Speaker 3: no Jackie. We heard that Jackie? Or what did smooth 903 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 3: be of nicest move? Did he write that rhyme? Was 904 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 3: it him? Or did you write it? No, he didn't 905 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 3: write that. He didn't write that one. Okay, no he 906 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 3: didn't write there. He was wrong. Hey, listen, that's what 907 00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 3: was just a rhyme scheme form I can see see. No, 908 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say we're not gonna do like we 909 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 3: did the baby Face where we just wrapped the whole thing. 910 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,399 Speaker 1: No, please, don't speaker of Smoothie. I know that your 911 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 1: your peers are mostly wrapped, like who who was your click? 912 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: As far as like you're you're when you were hanging 913 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: and and it was it. 914 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 3: Was smooth Bie. It was you know, at times Cougie 915 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 3: rap at times all times, well whodini? Of course there 916 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 3: was a bunch. I mean I used to hang out 917 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 3: with with rappers a lot where in New York, In 918 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 3: New York, just any particular places quarters we got it. 919 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: I've been waiting, yes, nineteen weeks to finally get a 920 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 1: Latin quarter story. 921 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 3: Oh my god. You don't understand. It's like our first 922 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 3: twenty episodes. 923 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: Everybody in their mother they retired about Latin quarter story stops. 924 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 3: Finally I got a Latin quarter Tell me. I once 925 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 3: saw a very well known rapper, very well known, got hat. 926 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 3: He wears a hat all the time. Llll okay. I 927 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 3: saw him get his chain, snacks waters and it was 928 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 3: just it was, oh, it was bad. It was bad. 929 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 3: It was bad because you know, it was these Brooklyn 930 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 3: cats and it was just like, oh man, and they 931 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 3: was like they was for real about it. They was not, 932 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 3: you know, trying to give him his jewelry back at all. 933 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 3: And they just bounced with his chain and I was 934 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 3: like and L was like, you know, l, I didn't care, 935 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 3: and we'll have another one tomorrow. You know. 936 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: Why, What was the allure of that place? Because all 937 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: I know is that it was dangerous and you could 938 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: get snatched. You know, you can't sign too much. 939 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 3: The danger part of it was it was one way in, 940 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 3: one way out. There was no side doors, Latin corns 941 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 3: in the middle of the block, right It didn't have it, didn't. 942 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 12: I mean it was next to it was a store 943 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 12: or this, but Latin Corters was one way in and 944 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 12: one way out, so and it was hot and all 945 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 12: of the chicks went there and we were just you know, 946 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 12: so it's worth risky in life to hear all the 947 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 12: hip hop that yes, all the hip hop you can 948 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 12: hear girls and all the girls and bamboo. 949 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 3: Ear rings at least two pairs. He also wrote that 950 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 3: and that club because that's all you saw up in 951 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 3: that club. 952 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 6: From the time that it was four years I think 953 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 6: it was four years from the time of Don't Be 954 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 6: Crewe into Bobby. 955 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 3: What took so long for the follow up? Just wanting 956 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 3: to break because Don't Be Crewe tour was grueling, Like 957 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 3: I said, it was three years of touring you know, 958 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 3: the world, and when I decided to go back in, 959 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 3: I really wanted a lot more of Teddy's funkiness on 960 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 3: the album. You know, I was strained, strained further away 961 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 3: from the sounds of you know, La and Babyface, and 962 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 3: so I just took my time with this that one, 963 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 3: and you know, we came up with what we came 964 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 3: up with, and I think that's one of the most 965 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 3: funkiest albums. 966 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 2: I know. 967 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 3: It is my favorite. 968 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 6: That's my favorite Bobby album. I was One More Night 969 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 6: and that to play the Game. Yeah, that was just 970 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 6: jam after jam. Yeah, like what who decided the singles? 971 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 6: Picking the singles? Because like humping Around, I mean, it 972 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 6: was a big hit. But when I heard it, I 973 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 6: was just like, Okay, this is kind of like my prerogative. 974 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 6: But then when I bought the album, my uncle he 975 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 6: had it and I would listen to it on his 976 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 6: big speakers, and man, you had like some sweet fucking 977 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 6: songs on that album. 978 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 3: And I was like, man. 979 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 6: Like, I was like, yo, this is like this is 980 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 6: it sounded to me it sounded like the next progression. 981 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 6: It was like, okay, don't be cruel, was bad boy 982 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 6: Bobby or whatever? And then but Bobby was like it 983 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 6: sounded like growth and it was. I love that album. 984 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 3: It was. But you know, with La and Babyface becoming 985 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 3: such such a popular duo, with with all of the 986 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 3: music they was doing for everybody else, I think Little 987 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 3: Silas felt that it should be a Face La and 988 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 3: Face record that drops first, and I was moving towards 989 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 3: you know, get away or to complay that game was 990 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 3: like that's the one right there. I love that, right so, 991 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 3: you know, it's just creative differences, and you know, I 992 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 3: went with it, you know. But of course we still 993 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 3: sold three million copies of that, you know, and it 994 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 3: was like, I mean, after my first album almost going gold, 995 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 3: King of Stage and then for Don't Be Crude to 996 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 3: sell twelve million, I'm just in the States alone. I 997 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 3: felt that you know, Bobby album, you know, I thought 998 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 3: it was going to do more. But at the same time, 999 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 3: I appreciated who who bought it, you know, because it 1000 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 3: was it was just it was just a project that 1001 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 3: I was really passionate about, and I had a lot 1002 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 3: of fun doing the tour. That tour was that tour 1003 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 3: was mean for me. That tour was mean because I 1004 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 3: got a chance to go back to all the different 1005 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 3: countries and continents and all of the cities in America 1006 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 3: and and just performed this this funky album, this funky 1007 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 3: just funky music that that that made me feel good, 1008 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 3: you know, and that made others feel good. And I 1009 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 3: was just really proud of that album. No you should 1010 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 3: be Man. 1011 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 6: For the longest time in high school, well it was yeah, 1012 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,959 Speaker 6: middle school, going in high school, college girl remained a staple. 1013 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 3: So thank you for that. I used to take that. 1014 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 7: You mentioned like turning all over the world. In your book, 1015 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 7: you mentioned the Bobbyos fan group in Japan. Oh yeah, 1016 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 7: can you tell us about that, because that seems it 1017 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 7: seems about Bobbyos. 1018 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 3: The Bobbyos they would it was guys and girls. They 1019 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 3: would tan their bodies to my complexion and they would 1020 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 3: wear clothes like me and they would all have gumbies. Dog. 1021 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 3: They found a way. There's no questions too. 1022 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 12: Man. 1023 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 3: That was weird to see, like. 1024 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: For Orange with these Afros, like they wouldn't pur their 1025 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: they were perning their hairs, but it would currently look 1026 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 1: like African. 1027 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 3: American and freaked the ship out. Yeah, man, built in Japan, 1028 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 3: you never had loyal You never find more loyal fans 1029 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 3: in the world. You have never find more loyal fans. 1030 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 3: I mean they come and droves and they'll keep coming. 1031 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 3: Every time you go back there they go again. 1032 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 6: What were some of the other places we were able 1033 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 6: to hit Africa while you were doing anywhere in Africa? 1034 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 3: I played sun City at one time, and that was 1035 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 3: you played sun City, Yes, and that was what wait, 1036 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 3: what year? It was the year that you should have 1037 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 3: played Some City. Yeah I should have. Yeah. Oh it 1038 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 3: was passing the okay, okay, yeah yeah he was home. Yeah, okay. 1039 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: So basically in in eighty five, Sylvia and Sopranos, Stephen 1040 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:15,959 Speaker 1: Little Stephen kind of organized uh, kind of a protest record, 1041 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: We Are the World Asque protest record called Sun City, 1042 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: in which basically he didn't want American artists going over 1043 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: there to play, to play South Africa, Yeah, to play 1044 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: South Africa. 1045 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 3: The video was weird too. It's like that Miles Davis 1046 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 3: walking Davis for Melli mel Yeah, yeah, it was. It 1047 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 3: was great. I remember that song. It was like King yea. 1048 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: And but the thing was is that some artists were 1049 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: sort of crossing the protest line, like I know that 1050 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: that's why Mylon Williams had left the Commodores ant Thomas McCleary, 1051 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: because you know, South Africa will basically offer artists like 1052 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 1: five times the dollars to go over there to play, 1053 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: and you know it's either you show solidarity not play it, 1054 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: or you sell your soul, and some artists wild cross 1055 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 1: that line. So but yeah, my time ninety two ninety three, 1056 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 1: then it was okay to. 1057 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 3: Play some City. Oh man, we jumped a little bit. 1058 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 6: Ghostbuster, Yeah, we gotta yeah, come on Ghostbusters man, like 1059 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 6: talk about. 1060 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 3: Doing the song and like being in the movie with Ghostbusters. 1061 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 3: They approached me to write a song for the soundtrack 1062 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,919 Speaker 3: and I did, and I wrote a song called We're Back, Oh. 1063 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 5: Yeah and. 1064 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's my Ship. I wrote that first, and 1065 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 3: then I gave them that one and they was like, 1066 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 3: we love it, we love it, We just need one more. 1067 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 3: Can you give us one more? And I was like, 1068 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 3: you know what, l and babyfacing right, I ain't got 1069 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 3: no more words that I can say about ghosts, about 1070 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 3: ghosts and evil and ship. I'm not I'm not in that. 1071 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 3: I'm not in that frame of mind right now, you know. 1072 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 3: But the thing was, if I wrote the song, I 1073 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 3: told him I want to be in the movie also, 1074 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 3: you know. So they put that in the contract and 1075 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 3: I and then when I got on our own from 1076 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 3: facing the House like okay, So we dropped it. When 1077 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 3: we put the single out, we put on our Own 1078 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 3: on the B side, and we're back on the on 1079 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 3: the A side. But we did the video for on 1080 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 3: our own, so as many as they sold, I still 1081 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 3: get my publisher back because it's the A side. I 1082 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 3: never knew that on our own was the B side. Yeah, 1083 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 3: I know that. I always thought that was the main joining. 1084 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,920 Speaker 3: You also did a thin line between. 1085 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, yo, we gotta talk about that and like and panther. 1086 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 6: But he had he had He had a dope as 1087 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 6: song on the soundtrack to So Yeah. 1088 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. I I love acting. I love being 1089 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 3: a part of you know, just to hurry up and 1090 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 3: wait situation. Yeah, you're just waiting your trailing. You go 1091 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 3: out there, you work for four minutes and go back 1092 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 3: in your trailing. You're in there for three hours. And 1093 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 3: I love that, you know, and you're getting the check too. 1094 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just let me chill in my trailer. Man. 1095 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 3: How was and Martin was really cool? We had so 1096 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 3: much fun on that set. Man, It was just like 1097 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, it was it was. It was basically 1098 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 3: a party because he was directing, you know, he did, 1099 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 3: and it was just a lot of fun, you know, 1100 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 3: the whole cast. You know, we just we just joked 1101 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 3: around all the time. 1102 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 8: That meant for you or was it? 1103 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he wrote it for me. 1104 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, Lynn Whitfield because she played the hell out of 1105 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 6: that role, and yeah, she scared me. 1106 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 3: She scared the ship out of me because she stayed 1107 01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 3: in character. Offset Yeah, y'a making jokes. She wasn't she 1108 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 3: wasn't kept she kept that face straight like this, and 1109 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 3: she was just walking around looking at people all weird 1110 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 3: and ship and I was like, wrong, it's crazy, man. 1111 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 13: And then after we rapped, she was like, oh my god, 1112 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 13: oh oh oh, I'm so glad I could come out 1113 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 13: of that. 1114 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 3: I was like, we are too stup out here. Well, 1115 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 3: you did a panther with Mario van Peebles. How did 1116 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 3: that come together? That came together? I went, I met 1117 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 3: with uh Mario at his office and he was like, 1118 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 3: he had this thing for me. He said, I got 1119 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 3: something for you, man, I got something that I really 1120 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 3: think you're gonna you know, you could really come across 1121 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 3: and really good. I'm team you up with Chris Rock 1122 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 3: and you him we're gonna And he explained the characters 1123 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 3: and how we were supposed to be and I was 1124 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 3: just like, I was like, oh ship, this is this 1125 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 3: is gonna be some funny ship. I know you're gonna 1126 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 3: kill me. Chris Rock, Yes, yeah, I remember, I'm sorry. 1127 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 7: Hold on, So, since we're talking about acting and you 1128 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 7: just played that I got to ask you about the 1129 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 7: two two seven guest spot. Yes, after that, I was 1130 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 7: sure that I'll be Good to you was gonna be 1131 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 7: the next thing. I was waiting for that. Damn man, 1132 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 7: I just didn't. I didn't at that point. 1133 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 3: I didn't want to do any of the you know, 1134 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 3: other songs that everybody normally hears from me. So I figured, 1135 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 3: you know, on on to seven, I was just like, yeah, 1136 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 3: let me I'll do I'll do this one. And unfortunately, 1137 01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 3: fortunately that it came out really, really good. I loved. 1138 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 3: I loved being able to perform it like like I did, 1139 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,600 Speaker 3: into the in the classroom and Regina jumping in and 1140 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 3: dancing with me. That was just a lot of fun 1141 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 3: and being on that set. Molly Gibbs is, Oh my god, 1142 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 3: what a gym she's. She's a beautiful, beautiful, one of 1143 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 3: the most kindest women I've ever met in my life 1144 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,640 Speaker 3: other than my mom. She is really kind. And I 1145 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,000 Speaker 3: got a story about that. She was We were all 1146 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,600 Speaker 3: backstage and I'm thinking, you know, I got to go 1147 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,599 Speaker 3: to the bathroom and I walk into the wrong room 1148 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 3: and Mala's trying to get was asking her she had 1149 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,600 Speaker 3: on she had a stock and she was trying to 1150 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 3: pull address up. She was like, boy, close that door. 1151 01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's dope. 1152 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 6: When you did After, After Bobby and then Forever, it 1153 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 6: was like five years. 1154 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 3: In between scrapped the record in between there, didn't you. 1155 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 3: I think it was the Forever album that I had scrapped. 1156 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 3: I didn't want to put it out because the record 1157 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 3: was done, so I did it so early, you know, 1158 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 3: and I like to try to space the albums out, 1159 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, and it creates, you know, a mystique 1160 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 3: to to the name Bobby Brown. But with Forever, I 1161 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 3: was truly in love, you know, and I just wrote 1162 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 3: songs that were about, you know, love. 1163 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,560 Speaker 6: And I loved feeling the side feeling that. Yeah, I 1164 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,720 Speaker 6: love that record, feeling inside. 1165 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 3: You like that. I don't don't make me feel like 1166 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,400 Speaker 3: I said something wrong now, No, I just couldn't. I 1167 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 3: just couldn't stand the record. I really felt like I like, 1168 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, I just don't know. I just too 1169 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 3: close to it. I mean, I don't know. Jeff Wait 1170 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 3: a minute, Jeff Red you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, he 1171 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 3: did the record, and you know, at the time, he 1172 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 3: was a and R up at mc A, and I 1173 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 3: was like, dude, we're not We're not dropping that first. 1174 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to drop that first. And he was like, 1175 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 3: but he had more pull over there, and he was like, yeah, 1176 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 3: I think we should drop this one. I was like, 1177 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 3: because you did, you did it right. 1178 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 7: But I liked it because it was kind of a 1179 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 7: different feel for you, Like yeah, and like the way 1180 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 7: you're saying on that record, you hadn't really kind of 1181 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 7: done things like that before. 1182 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, I'm with this, thank you, 1183 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,560 Speaker 3: thank you. I appreciate it because this is there's so 1184 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 3: many songs that I've recorded that I didn't like, like 1185 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 3: don't be cruel, I didn't like that, I didn't like 1186 01:11:54,400 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 3: I didn't like every little stat blasphemous. 1187 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, why do I feel that even thirty years after 1188 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 1: the fact, still you're still lukewarm on your working relationship 1189 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 1: with La and Face, Like, no, no, we're good, We're good. 1190 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 1: Me and Me and Face are really good. First of all, 1191 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:21,719 Speaker 1: can you settle this whole that was really Ralph singing 1192 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 1: on every little stuff? Whatever started that rumor or. 1193 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,920 Speaker 3: I don't know who started that, but that is definitely 1194 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,720 Speaker 3: a lie. Okay, So what did you not like? 1195 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 8: Please don't be cruel. 1196 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 3: I just thought it was too slow. Oh man, I 1197 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 3: thought it was too slow. It's like that's how dam 1198 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 3: Then I started thinking, you know that it sounded like Casanova. 1199 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 3: I can't see that, I can see, but you see 1200 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 3: the jam people the damn too. 1201 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 6: You got it because I was yeah, because that was like, 1202 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 6: well that was eighty eight, so that was like I 1203 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 6: was like third grade, so we would have our dance. 1204 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:04,560 Speaker 3: You know. 1205 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: I was always a man of husk. So it's the 1206 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 1: heavy d That was the Yo, the big man. What 1207 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: was like eighty seven, that was the Calaway Brothers. 1208 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, that one you would have made that you on 1209 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 8: a house record. 1210 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 3: I put a little bit more funk on it. But 1211 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 3: as I as it started to grow on me when 1212 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 3: I was on tour, it was just it just grew 1213 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 3: on me, you know, especially when we put the rap 1214 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 3: in it, because first we dropped it, and we had 1215 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,600 Speaker 3: to drop it without the rap because radio would not 1216 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 3: play rap at the time, really, no wrap, no version 1217 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 3: without the rep. We put it out the first time 1218 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 3: without the rap, and then the radio was playing it, 1219 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 3: but it wasn't it wasn't really going nowhere. So we 1220 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,560 Speaker 3: took we stopped that. We brought that one back and 1221 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 3: put out my prerogative, Like we pulled the pulled Domp 1222 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 3: crew and put out my prerogative and boom, we hit him. 1223 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 3: We got pop radio. We you know, we got started 1224 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 3: getting all the ads and then we put the rap 1225 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 3: on them Won't Be Crew and put it back out 1226 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 3: right after prerogative. So it was like it was like 1227 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 3: a switcher through And what. 1228 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 8: Was the effects of that when you put the rap 1229 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:21,240 Speaker 8: back on? 1230 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 3: What did you what did you say? Number one? That 1231 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 3: was the Yeah, that's the part everyone. That's when they 1232 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 3: started really really playing rap music on the pop radio stations, 1233 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 3: because it was like they had to. I'm really shocked 1234 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,439 Speaker 3: that you're this would be cool man? If you didn't 1235 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 3: like it? Did you? Were you hesitant to name the 1236 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 3: title after the record? 1237 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 5: No? 1238 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 3: No, I thought I thought, I'm I'm a big Elvis 1239 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 3: Presley fan. It was like that, I'm gonna take Yeah. 1240 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 8: So then every little step, what is the problem? 1241 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 6: Like that? 1242 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,760 Speaker 3: Was it the same verse, the same verse? Yeah, it 1243 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,000 Speaker 3: took parts of that, parts of that, and then I 1244 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 3: just thought it was bubble gummish. Wait why was it 1245 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 3: just why was it one verse sung twice the same? Now? 1246 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 3: Now I'm doing. Wait, didn't Face already revealed that to us? 1247 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 3: Or am I just discovering that right now? I can't remember? 1248 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 3: So it was. 1249 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,560 Speaker 1: No, No, it was the same verse. It was the 1250 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,799 Speaker 1: same thing verse. It was just sung sung differently. On Saturday. 1251 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 3: Lewis did the same thing Saturday Love. Yeah. Man, So 1252 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,639 Speaker 3: did you like Ronie because that's like I love okay 1253 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 3: all the balance Here. 1254 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 7: Here's a random ass question that probably I'm the only 1255 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 7: one that's interested in. How involved were you with the 1256 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 7: Dance You Note remix album? 1257 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 3: Yes, A very yeah, because I felt, you know, if 1258 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 3: I wasn't going to drop an album right right away, 1259 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,720 Speaker 3: that the best thing to do is remix and re 1260 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 3: sell the same songs that we just sold. It was 1261 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 3: it was that was the remixes in the Key of B. 1262 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 3: Was it that? 1263 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,519 Speaker 6: No, There was Dance You Note for the Don't Be 1264 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,599 Speaker 6: Cruel out and remixes for the Bobby Yeah. 1265 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,840 Speaker 3: I had mixed drop it on more. Where is the 1266 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:22,640 Speaker 3: b Brown posse? Everywhere? Everywhere? We're starting to rebuild right now. 1267 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,920 Speaker 3: We are definitely starting to rebuild with my sons. And 1268 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 3: I have this other artist. His name is Damn. Did 1269 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,520 Speaker 3: I just forget his name's an artist named Frank Stickham's 1270 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 3: and got a guy named Tim Campbell and then we 1271 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:46,599 Speaker 3: still have Styles. Styles are still out there. Yeah, yeah, 1272 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 3: I'll keep it going. 1273 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 7: In your book, you were talking about, you know, you 1274 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 7: guys recorded a lot of stuff for the for your 1275 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 7: label that you had. Is any do you ever think 1276 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 7: any of that stuff is going to come out? 1277 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 3: Never know? You know, I just gotta go and and 1278 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 3: I gotta I mean, my my garage is stacked, which 1279 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 3: just just reels and reels and reels, and I just 1280 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 3: gotta find time to you know, go through them. And 1281 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,720 Speaker 3: I mean, if you need somebody to help you, volunteer, Yeah, 1282 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 3: I volunteers. Tribute. Yeah, I'd like to know what was the. 1283 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,680 Speaker 1: The process of reuniting the group back together for the 1284 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 1: Home the Home Again album? Like, I know it's an 1285 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 1: extension of the Get Back the Remix of Words, but 1286 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 1: how how is that. 1287 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 3: I organized? I just missed my I just missed my crew, 1288 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,280 Speaker 3: you know, I missed all the guys. I missed the 1289 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 3: camaraderie that we have. I missed just my friends just 1290 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:54,120 Speaker 3: being out on the road with them. And I was like, man, 1291 01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 3: it's time. I think it's time, you know, we get 1292 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 3: together and we do something. What went wrong with it? 1293 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 3: We were all crazy. We were all crazy. 1294 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,720 Speaker 1: But did it last at least the full tour? That's 1295 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 1: the only time I didn't get to see I didn't. 1296 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 3: I didn't get to see him that year either. I 1297 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 3: didn't get to see you guys, I still have. I 1298 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 3: don't know if it lasted the whole tour. I don't know. 1299 01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,960 Speaker 3: I don't even know that because I mean, at that time, 1300 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,080 Speaker 3: I was in a funk. I was in a real 1301 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,760 Speaker 3: bad way, you know, with using drugs and things like that, 1302 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 3: and it was just it was just not a good 1303 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 3: time for me in my life. And I was still rolling, 1304 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 3: you know, I was still on the road and not 1305 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,720 Speaker 3: taking care of myself, and it was just it was 1306 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 3: just a bad time, and you know, we ended up. 1307 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,200 Speaker 3: I ended up losing my damn mind and you'll see 1308 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 3: it in my film. And I just I snapped, you know, 1309 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 3: and just went crazy for a little while and had 1310 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 3: to come up tour and you know, get some help. 1311 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 3: And I'm grateful that I did. 1312 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 8: Is it always all good? 1313 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 2: With with the introduction of Johnny and I was like 1314 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 2: that if it was, it was great, But I always 1315 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 2: a the fan. 1316 01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,240 Speaker 3: I was like, was that that easy? Well, me and 1317 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 3: Johnny have never have had a problem since I since 1318 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,840 Speaker 3: I found out that he wasn't there to replace me, 1319 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 3: you know, he was there to replace Ralph because Ralph 1320 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:24,000 Speaker 3: was going to go solo. So I was just like, oh, okay, well, 1321 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 3: I mean you got no problems then, because you know 1322 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 3: I was I was Eddie Kane Jr. At that time. 1323 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 8: Well, how long did it take you to get that 1324 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:36,280 Speaker 8: information that looks this. 1325 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 3: Is what it is? Actually? No, they told me Mike 1326 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,280 Speaker 3: and Mike, Ricky and Ronnie and and and then told me. 1327 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 3: And then, you know, me being close to Ralph, Ralph 1328 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 3: was telling he had been playing me his his album, 1329 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 3: you know, because me and Ralph was. 1330 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 5: Like this and. 1331 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,680 Speaker 3: He had been playing me his music and stuff. And 1332 01:19:54,760 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's you about to blow more sensitivity. Yeah. Yeah, 1333 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 3: he had a bomb album that he did with who 1334 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,600 Speaker 3: was he working with, you know, the producers just a 1335 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 3: guy named Dwayne, Dwayne in Boston, I forget his name, 1336 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 3: but yeah, they had some hot stuff, man. And I 1337 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, that's that's what's gonna get. That's 1338 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 3: it's gonna care. They hinted at that in the in 1339 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 3: the New Addition movie. Were they actually using the music 1340 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 3: that Roth had recorded for that record, because they were 1341 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,320 Speaker 3: playing some songs? I don't think so. 1342 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,439 Speaker 2: Did you treat the relations Did y'all treat the relationship 1343 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 2: with new kids on the block the same way as Johnny? 1344 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:36,240 Speaker 3: In that way? 1345 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,640 Speaker 2: Like? Well, I guess I should say that it was 1346 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,080 Speaker 2: their hostility more toward Maurice in that way then? 1347 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 3: No, no, we we we we really didn't care. We 1348 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:50,639 Speaker 3: was just we were mad that they they cornered the merchant. 1349 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,400 Speaker 3: They made more money with their merchandise than the records 1350 01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,679 Speaker 3: than their records. It was couldn't go to class without 1351 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 3: seeing like eighteen girls and new kids on the block. 1352 01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:09,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, the sweat shirts, sweatshirt traffic keepers, traffic keepers, Yeah 1353 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:10,839 Speaker 6: yeah yeah. 1354 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 3: Traficet pillows, all kinds of ship wait side questions. 1355 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm about to derel into a rabbit hole. But your dad, 1356 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,120 Speaker 1: it's almost back to school time. 1357 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's already bad. 1358 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,720 Speaker 1: I haven't already got all the school and I'm not 1359 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: a dad, so I got to know the books anymore. 1360 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,720 Speaker 1: They don't use traffic keepers anyway, like the traffic keepers done. 1361 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 1: They do have notebooks but what's fly now is that 1362 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 1: they have companies now, uh that you can prepay for 1363 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: your your back to school supplies. 1364 01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah and l and when your kids get the school, 1365 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 3: the box to just be there, but they name on it. 1366 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 3: So that's what I do. Like I bought, I buy 1367 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 3: like Amazon, your son the school Man. 1368 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 6: Amazon Prime that niggas apply. I'm not going to target 1369 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 6: and spending all that time and there that's so fun. 1370 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 6: I get them and you send him and he gets 1371 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,800 Speaker 6: to school the first day, his name is on the 1372 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 6: box and he good. 1373 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 3: To go, all right. 1374 01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,679 Speaker 7: So I hate to keep referencing things in your book, 1375 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 7: but your book is really good, and I hope people 1376 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,040 Speaker 7: can keep it. Like from me asking to tell these stories, 1377 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,920 Speaker 7: We'll go out and buy it. There's a story about 1378 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 7: Mike Tyson in the book. 1379 01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 3: Is this in the movie? Do you know where I'm going? 1380 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,439 Speaker 3: Can you? Can you tell the story about the night 1381 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,800 Speaker 3: partying with Mike Tyson and what happened the day after? Well, 1382 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 3: it was we was in Japan and we hooked up 1383 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 3: in Japan. Is this when he lost to Buster Douglas? Yes, 1384 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 3: spoiling the story for us, Well, but you didn't know 1385 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,320 Speaker 3: that's what where this was going, I'll take the editor out. Listen. 1386 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:50,000 Speaker 3: We basically stayed up all night partying okay, with like 1387 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:55,680 Speaker 3: maybe twelve Japanese girls and just me and Mike. And 1388 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:01,559 Speaker 3: it was just the funniest night ever. We had a ball, 1389 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,519 Speaker 3: but it was just the funniest night ever. I kept 1390 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 3: telling them. I kept telling them, and I kept telling them. 1391 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 3: I was like, Mike, you need to go get some sleep. 1392 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 3: You gotta fight tomorrow. He's like, Bobby, listen, buster douggat is. 1393 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,560 Speaker 3: He's an amateur, he said, he said I could. I 1394 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,240 Speaker 3: could beat him if I didn't sleep for five weeks, 1395 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,880 Speaker 3: he said. He said, watch watch how quick this fight ends. 1396 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 3: This is gonna be one of my quickest fights. And 1397 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 3: I was like, Mike, all right. He was like, don't worry, man, 1398 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 3: you worry so much. I was like, all right, Pride 1399 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,960 Speaker 3: Goes before the Fall and what on behold? I had 1400 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,559 Speaker 3: to go to Osaka and I couldn't go to the fight. 1401 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 3: I had to go to Osaka and I'm sitting there 1402 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,560 Speaker 3: at this this Empress place and he has it on 1403 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,920 Speaker 3: this big screen and I'm like, we're watching it and 1404 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 3: looking at Mike and I'm seeing the fatigue in him. 1405 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,879 Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh ship, and then them 1406 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 3: punches came boom boom boom, boom boom, and I just 1407 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 3: started crying, like yo, baby, listen cried so bad. You 1408 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 3: don't understand. I was grade Man. Wasn't that She's like 1409 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 3: watching Superman like that. It was hurt. Yeah, that hurt. 1410 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,439 Speaker 3: I mean, it hurt me to my core. I was 1411 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 3: just like I couldn't. I couldn't breathe, and I had 1412 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,519 Speaker 3: to go on stage. So I was just like I 1413 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 3: think that's when I started having panic attacks, you know, 1414 01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 3: and just like I was like, oh my god, he's 1415 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,240 Speaker 3: gonna kill me. He's gonna, he's gonna, he's just gonna 1416 01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,600 Speaker 3: he's just gonna destroy me when he sees me. And 1417 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,360 Speaker 3: I was like, I was like yo. But then I 1418 01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 3: started thinking about it. I kept telling this, why would 1419 01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,680 Speaker 3: he be mad at me? What? What was it like? 1420 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 3: At the after after he after the fight, he called 1421 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 3: me on the phone. He said, Bob, he was right. 1422 01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,600 Speaker 3: He said, you was so like he said, I was 1423 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,680 Speaker 3: so sleepy in there, my legs, with my legs with 1424 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,160 Speaker 3: mushing there. He said, that's why, he said, that's why 1425 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 3: coustry model told me don't have sex for a fight again, 1426 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:27,960 Speaker 3: you had a lot of sex. You had a lot 1427 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 3: of it was it wasn't just one person. You have 1428 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 3: a lot of oh god, drinking a dragging alkaline alkaline water. Yeah. 1429 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 3: So like what's your life like now? Like on the 1430 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 3: day to day, Like what you my life? What you do? 1431 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 3: My life now was beautiful, I think. I mean, I'm 1432 01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:06,680 Speaker 3: living my best days coming back for I love shoulders. No, 1433 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm so happy as y'all know. I'm I'm married. 1434 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,000 Speaker 3: I've been married to my wife, Alicia for for the 1435 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:19,720 Speaker 3: last six years. We've been together for about ten and 1436 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 3: then we have three kids, a two year old, a 1437 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,400 Speaker 3: three year old, and a nine year old. And I 1438 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:35,120 Speaker 3: just love you just six six six six, all right. 1439 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,120 Speaker 1: I know I have it on good authority as a foodie. Uhh, 1440 01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:44,720 Speaker 1: that you're fried chicken? Game is bart nine hands down. 1441 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:46,320 Speaker 3: Look at. 1442 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 1: I saw someone another room like look like I told you, 1443 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,120 Speaker 1: And this is not the cocaine chicken. 1444 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,240 Speaker 3: This is not the cocaine. Is that really better to 1445 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,439 Speaker 3: make you addicted like coke? 1446 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:02,880 Speaker 6: No? 1447 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 3: I have you know we have a food line, I know, 1448 01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 3: Bobby Brownfoods dot com and we make barbecue sauces, all natural, 1449 01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,360 Speaker 3: gluten free kosha, you know, all all of the all 1450 01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,440 Speaker 3: of the natural ingredients that we put in there afresh, 1451 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,840 Speaker 3: and we we basically make it and bottle it while 1452 01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,240 Speaker 3: it's hot, so that you know it's it's the real 1453 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,720 Speaker 3: it's the real deal, you know. Then we have the 1454 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:36,360 Speaker 3: fried chicken mix which you can cook pork, chicken fish with. 1455 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,840 Speaker 3: The fried chicken mixes called brown bagging it we give you, 1456 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 3: give you a bag. You get it comes in a 1457 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,680 Speaker 3: bag and you can use that bag to shake it, 1458 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 3: shake your stuff up. The Boston band Boston Boston blenn 1459 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,400 Speaker 3: is like a rub or you know, just like an 1460 01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,760 Speaker 3: everyday pepper, which is which is also all natural. 1461 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:01,760 Speaker 8: Recipes. 1462 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:06,400 Speaker 6: Yes, Bobby's barbecue salmon, yes, yes, vegetarians right. 1463 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:11,200 Speaker 3: Speaking of seafood in the everyday seasoning is also it's 1464 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:15,600 Speaker 3: like a it's like Lowry's, but it's a lot a 1465 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,960 Speaker 3: lot less salt, and it's it's it's also you know, 1466 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,280 Speaker 3: gluten free and all natural. We're gonna cops, I'm a 1467 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,600 Speaker 3: cop some of that. Speaking of seafood, I understand you 1468 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,479 Speaker 3: you're big into sushi, is that right? I am? I am? 1469 01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,920 Speaker 3: Have you ever been to Gero's in Japan. 1470 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 1: That you're right Gero's, Yes, I don't think so he's 1471 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,920 Speaker 1: the god of sushi. Oh yeah, since he he's like 1472 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,880 Speaker 1: eighty eighty nine years old. 1473 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,960 Speaker 3: But you have to check him out. You got to 1474 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:43,960 Speaker 3: see his on a Netflix. 1475 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,080 Speaker 1: You gotta see his documentary, Gerald Dreams of Sushi and 1476 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 1: like it's it's a pilgrimage, Like his meals are like. 1477 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:53,640 Speaker 3: Six seven hundred dollars. 1478 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 1: But it's people. People make pilgrimages over there. It's almost 1479 01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 1: like going to confessional just him. Yeah, like it's just 1480 01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,800 Speaker 1: you and him alone in the room, and he feeds you, 1481 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, the best sushi you've ever had in your life. 1482 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,599 Speaker 3: Wow. I remember, I remember going when I first ate sushi. 1483 01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,880 Speaker 3: I ate sushi in Japan at the Empress Palace. He 1484 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 3: invited us over, Me and my whole crew. We had 1485 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:23,680 Speaker 3: just finished doing Tokyo dum for the seventh night and 1486 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,960 Speaker 3: he invited us over, and I mean the palace was 1487 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:32,640 Speaker 3: so beautiful and he just we were like skeptical of 1488 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,439 Speaker 3: trying sushi, but it was like this was so long ago, 1489 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:39,320 Speaker 3: this was before all of these sushi restaurants started popping 1490 01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 3: up here, and man I swear on my life this 1491 01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,240 Speaker 3: this food was so good. It was oh my god. 1492 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,680 Speaker 3: And they had temporas and all of that. They had 1493 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:57,360 Speaker 3: these little white fish that the tempora and I mean, oh, 1494 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,679 Speaker 3: I can still taste it right now, that's how good 1495 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 3: it was. And then I tried all of the other 1496 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,680 Speaker 3: you know, you know, raw fish and things like that, 1497 01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,160 Speaker 3: and got my kids into it, you know, my older kids, 1498 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,800 Speaker 3: and then I started telling them that the you know, 1499 01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,439 Speaker 3: the wasabi was dessert and that was the ice cream. 1500 01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:29,880 Speaker 3: That's nice. I did it to my brother first, and 1501 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,080 Speaker 3: he took a scoop and put it all the way 1502 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,680 Speaker 3: in his love and he was and he doesn't like 1503 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:43,439 Speaker 3: anything hot, and his snow started running. I started tearing up. 1504 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,719 Speaker 6: I was like, before I forget talk to us about 1505 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,280 Speaker 6: how you had Bosstown in Atlanta and then how it 1506 01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:54,719 Speaker 6: became thinkni you okay in outcast in that connection, I forgot. 1507 01:30:55,400 --> 01:31:00,160 Speaker 3: Well. Bosstown was a place where we did all of 1508 01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 3: the recordings for you know, most of my stuff that 1509 01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:08,720 Speaker 3: I did with b Brown Posse, and we would rent 1510 01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,400 Speaker 3: it out, you know track. We would do lots of tracks. 1511 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,800 Speaker 3: We had three studios. But I just got I just 1512 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,559 Speaker 3: got tired of Atlanta. You know, when I was getting 1513 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 3: ready to get married to Whitney, I was just tired 1514 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,920 Speaker 3: of Atlanta. I was tired of being there and tired 1515 01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,320 Speaker 3: of the whole Atlanta scene. You know, because what years 1516 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:35,040 Speaker 3: were you there from? Ooh, I want to say eighty eight, 1517 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:36,360 Speaker 3: eighty seven. 1518 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:43,400 Speaker 6: To ninety eighty seven, ninety okay, eighty seven to ninety two. 1519 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,400 Speaker 6: So that was was Freaknick still run Nick was yeah. 1520 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:54,679 Speaker 6: They canceled Freak Nick back in ninety ninety, yeah, around 1521 01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:55,680 Speaker 6: ninety because. 1522 01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,720 Speaker 3: It was it was wild. It was wild. I have 1523 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,360 Speaker 3: never seen so many strip I was on in my life. 1524 01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,760 Speaker 3: I mean, strip club on every corner, every corner. I 1525 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,360 Speaker 3: was like, isn't this the Bible Belt state? Apparently not. 1526 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Atlanta is just I mean when you know, like 1527 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,400 Speaker 6: Atlanta is just like one spec of black people, but 1528 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,920 Speaker 6: Georgia like as a whole. Oh yeah, it's yeah, it's real. 1529 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,000 Speaker 6: I'm from I'm born and raised North Carolina. So like 1530 01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,519 Speaker 6: my buddies, my homies were drive down to Freaknick, but 1531 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:27,400 Speaker 6: I never got a chance to go. 1532 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,120 Speaker 3: I was too young. But Freaknick was wow. So you 1533 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 3: had the studio there, you had boss Town, I had Bosstown, 1534 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:37,320 Speaker 3: there and I guess you know, I was told to 1535 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:42,240 Speaker 3: La that I wanted to sell it, and he said, well, 1536 01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 3: I got some guys that might want to buy it 1537 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,320 Speaker 3: off you and go we hold it was outcasts, you know, 1538 01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:52,280 Speaker 3: the Dungeon Crew, and I sold it to them and 1539 01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:57,760 Speaker 3: moved on, you know, didn't look back. He well, you know, 1540 01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:02,599 Speaker 3: brother Brown, We thank you. Thank you. Yell y'all, bro 1541 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,800 Speaker 3: like for real, like you are a surviving Yeah, thank you. 1542 01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:07,559 Speaker 3: I appreciate straight up. 1543 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,400 Speaker 7: And I want to thank you for all the sacrifices 1544 01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,479 Speaker 7: that you and the guys in New Addition made because 1545 01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,760 Speaker 7: you guys basically gave up your childhood just to entertain us. 1546 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,439 Speaker 3: I want to thank you for that. Thank you. You 1547 01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,360 Speaker 3: made a lot of people very happy. Thanks y'all made 1548 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,800 Speaker 3: us got be I mean, y'all didn't have to listen, 1549 01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 3: but you did listen. We have what else am I 1550 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:27,920 Speaker 3: going to put on my cake? 1551 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:32,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 1552 01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:32,519 Speaker 6: God? 1553 01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:36,800 Speaker 3: All right on? Behalf of team Supreme? Uh you fan 1554 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,080 Speaker 3: take a little and Sugar Steve you cool Yeah, I'm 1555 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:40,439 Speaker 3: cooling it now and then cool. 1556 01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,360 Speaker 1: Boston on pay Bill quest love. Thank you Bobby once again, 1557 01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:46,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. 1558 01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,599 Speaker 3: You got it. This is quest Love Supreme only on Pandora. 1559 01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,360 Speaker 3: We'll see you on the next go around, y'all. 1560 01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:08,400 Speaker 1: Court Love Supremest production of iHeartRadio. 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