1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: All right, here we go spreading the corn. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Ten seconds remaining, we just go throw up to the basket. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: Under the basket, it's the throut for the wind God. 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: By a miracle, I. 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Chuck the water hit. 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: That one from the parking lot. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: Bet MGM. I am your host, Kai McEwan, joined by 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: the rest of the three man Weave crew, Jim Root 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: and Matt Cox. If you're not familiar with the show, 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: you ought to be. We go through the college basketball slate, 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: focusing on the Wednesday and Thursday games, maybe a touch 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: of the weekend, but fellas last week. We started off 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: as we always do with our moneyline specials. Our live 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: dog of the week is what we call our section. 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Where's mine? 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: Oh, Where's mine? 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: And we did pretty well. Army came through for us, 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: beating Sienna outright in overtime. Cash. Let's go cash cash 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: for Jim and Kai. Hooray hurrah. But the other teams 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: we picked, hey, they covered. If you bet him on 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: the spread, you did well. Not me though, I took 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: air Force against Portland did not work out. But Jim 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: and Matt both took Delaware State. They covered against Columbia 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: and then Matthew Cox. Your Missouri State Bears covered against 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: by you. Congratulations, oh State, thank you. Uh proud proud 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: uh child offspring up too, Missouri State. Lomness is go Bears, 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: no Bears, Jim. We have some good options for this 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: week as well. I will say, though, the matchups are 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: kind of tricky with the mtes going on. Your MAOIs, 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: your PK eighty five's your battle for Atlantis's and that 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: last one is where I want to start off. Let 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: me pitch this at you. Butler plus twelve per Ken 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: pots selling. We don't we don't know the actual spread 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: quite yet, but they played Tennessee, a very dangerous team, 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: one that we really like this year. But remember Tennessee 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: dropped one to Colorado, and Jim, we think this Butler 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: team might be underrated. 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: Oh, they are definitely underrated, Kay, I will say it's 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: strongly these Bulldogs are. They're still outside the top one 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: hundred and a couple of the computer rankings, and that's crazy. 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: They're nowhere near that they've become that we talked about 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 2: kind of a trustworthy favorite. They've blown out some really 46 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: bad teams. That's not how I thought about them in 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: the past, but they've been really solid this year now 48 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: against Tennessee. If it's twelve, I mean, it's crazy. I 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: don't think it will be. I think it'll be like 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: ten or nine. But there still might be value on 51 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: the money line here. Manny Bates is a dominant chot 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: bocker in the interior. Tennessee may or may not have 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: euros Plov switch back. They're big, towering center. Without him, 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: they're a little bit thin up front. They have to 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: kind of go small. I think there's a decent chance 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: that Bay excuse me, Butler competes here. Matthew. I don't 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: know if they're going to win, but I will almost 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: certainly bet them to cover, and so for that reason, 59 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: I'll make them a live dog here. 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna split my between money line spread. I 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: just think this Tennessee thing. They smash Florida Gulf Coast 62 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: after they lost to Colorado, I don't know if all 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: of their issues are resolved because they beat a team 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: they should beat in an angry spot. So I'm hoping 65 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: maybe those cracks start to reappear here in paradise, and 66 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I think Butler is a team that can exploit it 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: as well as any kind of underrated power conference team 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: as well coach as they are as well connected as 69 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: they play now. They're not deep. They're also a little 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: bit banged up themselves, but they had enough bodies to 71 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: compete in this game. So I'm looking at like a 72 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: plus three hundred and three to one price are better 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: for moneyline, That's kind of my target range. We'll see 74 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: where the line opens up. But well, Matt, how about 75 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: lipscumb going to Chattanooga A little offshoot? Disagree from it? 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Int you love Nyuga. We do love Dan Earl, coach 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: of Chattanooga. He is a genius, but Lipscumb's very experienced. 78 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: They have no slouch at the head coaching position themselves 79 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: with Lenny Acuff, and they beat Belmont took no Name 80 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: to the wire. But you know you don't buy the 81 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: Lipscumb buy. I'm taking Nuga now, I'm taking I'm taking Nuga. 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: I know they're not a full strength right now, but 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: dannyrols like maybe the best coach at college basketball right 84 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: now that no one knows about. Okay, he's up there, He's. 85 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: That no one knows about I'll I'll allow it. 86 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my fault. 87 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: Maut here. 88 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: And I think Lipscom is a little bit overrated at 89 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: this point. I think Earl's a master game divisor and 90 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: he'll have a good game plan to stop mister Sogula 91 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: up front. 92 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 2: Lipson has got a little more versatility to their scoring 93 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: repertoire this year. It's not just a sodula and prayers anymore, 94 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: which is which is rather impressive. But man, yeah, Chattanooga 95 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 2: is so solid. Not a team I'm looking to fade 96 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: in any way and losing out right as a big dog, 97 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: I got to stay away from here Kai this one. 98 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: This one's not for me. 99 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: Fair enough, guys and Jim, I'll just give you a 100 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: three pack. Here. One's a short dog, So I'm kind 101 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: of not really counting this one. But I'm looking at 102 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Jacksonville against Campbell. They're going to be a short dog 103 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: against the Camel's. Jacksonville's very tough. I think they could 104 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: win this game out right pretty easy. I will be 105 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: on this spread guaranteed. 106 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that game's going to have like fifty seven possessions, 107 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: right to be hideous. 108 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely hideous. Not the trash Man pick of the week. 109 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: We will get to that one, but Jim, how about 110 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: a two for on Thursday Army plus ten for Kimpom 111 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: against Princeton. This game's in London, and the ground troops 112 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: did cover for us and went out right against Sienna. 113 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: Hey, we set up ground troops abroad. They're always solid, 114 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: always solid, especially as any that's right and Sienna, Jim 115 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: as well. The team Army beat out right. They're playing 116 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: Florida State and I'm just writing down, Hey, why not? 117 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: Why not fade flores State right now? They are dysfunctional. 118 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: Those seminoles. They did manage to get a win over Mercer, 119 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: but I remain unconvinced that they're fixed or even remotely fixed. 120 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: I'm with you. Sienna is absolutely worth a shot here, 121 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: and the troops probably are too. Army in Princeton is 122 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: going to be a really erratic Matt. You love a 123 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: high variance underdog here. There's gonna be a ton of 124 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: threes taken in that game. Princeton is not any sort 125 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: of scary defensive team. I think Army can get theirs. 126 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 2: I think these are both worth a shot. Kai Sienna 127 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: I like more, though, Matt, where do you stand. 128 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: I like the Dog because I think there's a it 129 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: correlates with the under, and I love the under if 130 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: I like it for one reason only. The venue. If 131 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: this game is at Copper Box Arena, it looks like 132 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: the old Copper Box, like a dystopian like jail cell 133 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: from the outside, and the lighting in the inside from 134 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: the picture looking at it looks really weird. I'm sure 135 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: they have some like steel rims or something like. There's 136 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna be something off of this game, not just the 137 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: fact that it's in London, which is weird, and it 138 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: would have self body clocks probably off. I'm just all 139 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: over the under. If you like the under, typically lean 140 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: the dog, so I'm all in on leaning the dog 141 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: as well. 142 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: I'll throw one thing out, Matt. There were four games 143 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: played in Dublin, Ireland as part of the ad Act Challenge, 144 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: and three of them went over and the fourth one 145 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: I think stayed under by like a point. So, I mean, 146 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's like defenses don't travel, but 147 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see that's true. 148 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: You kind of forget like if you're a sluggish that 149 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: also applies on defense, which can also good both ways. Yeah, Okay, 150 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: so quick recap for the live dog of the week. 151 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: I am going to be on Sienna and Army taking 152 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: two shots here, Jim, what are you want? 153 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: I will also be on Siena. I think you talked 154 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: me into at least taking a small piece of Army. 155 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: I'll mean on Butler to cover. Again. I don't think 156 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: they'll win out right, but I think that number will 157 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: be too big, and hey, that means you have a 158 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: chance of winning out right, So off to you if 159 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: you want to split and put on the money line there. 160 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: This is a short dog too, Kai because Villanova's banged up, 161 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: but I think Iowa State beats Villan Nova in their MTE. 162 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Villanova's not figured out offensively, they don't have a point guard, 163 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: and they're taking on an Iowa State team who's looked 164 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: really good right now. Their defense is swarming. Now we 165 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: talked about that kind of the way they are defensively intimidating, 166 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: like that's really good in the non con and they 167 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: were awesome. They're like the best non con team in 168 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: the country last year. I think the Cyclones will be 169 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: a nice short dog winner there. 170 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel bad for baby Arch at point 171 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: guard already get a lot ton of shade as being 172 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: the worst Power Conference point guard in Maria Kenn. You 173 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: have to go against that Iowa State pressure. I do 174 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: wish you look young, young buck Kai. I'm taking Butler cover, 175 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: money line split and Army to cover, but I'm too 176 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: soft to take moneyline. So sorry, Yes, who are we 177 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: all go? Why not enjoy the goal with Charman Ultra 178 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Blowout City is the next section we're going to do. Hey, 179 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: last week, the boys did pretty good. We were three 180 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: for three, three and zero on our calling out of 181 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: our blowouts, UAB beat Presbyterian by thirty one, Marquet beat 182 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: LU by thirty seven, and Alabama Matt Special beat Jacksonville 183 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: State by forty two. The tide extended late. There, guys. 184 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: A couple I'm looking at this week. On Wednesday, North 185 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: Florida is going to Kentucky. That spread is around twenty 186 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: six per kim Pum. Little Rock is going to Matt's 187 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: alma mater, Indiana, spread around thirty one, And McNeese State 188 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: is going to Baylor spread around thirty four. Boy, I 189 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: think all three could be blowout. So but Matt, I 190 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: will say, North Florida did impress me a little bit 191 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: s ducane. Yeah, and Kentucky hasn't impressed us, right, Like 192 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: everyone's talking about how Kyle Party is doing this weird 193 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: throw whatever at the wall and see what sticks with 194 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: his rotations. I mean, I think the athleticism and Seize 195 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: mismatch could make this a bloodbath. But of the options here, 196 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: I think Indiana is by far the best one. Baylor's 197 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: good because Baylor's Baylor, but Little Rock's disaster. God, this 198 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: team's awful. They play fast, they try and kind of 199 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: speed you up. It's just right for a complete beat down. 200 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you worry about maybe a sleepy spot gym for 201 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: any of these guys, but I just think Indiana is 202 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: built to play well as a large favorite this season, 203 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: which has not been true in years past. 204 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: I thought there was a chance of a sleepy spot 205 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: for Indiana after the win at Xavier and they beat 206 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio by thirty, Like. 207 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: They are pretty sleepy in the first ten minutes, but 208 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: then it just went on a yeah flurry and then 209 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: it was done. Yeah. Yeah. 210 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: They've got a great home environment. I think even during 211 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving week they'll get a solid crowd there because I you, 212 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: being good is so exciting for the Hoosier Faithful Little 213 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: Rock is terrible. Like you said, I think they're going 214 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: to be very easily blown out. I use deep so 215 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: even when they are playing like their second unit, they're 216 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 2: they're like eleven through thirteen scholarship guys. They're pretty touted 217 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: incoming freshmen or guys that were touted in the past, 218 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: trying to prove themselves too, trying to prove themselves. Yeah, 219 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: so the foot doesn't come off the pedal for them. 220 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: I like you a ton here, Kai. 221 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did too. I will say Baylor McNeese gets 222 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: blown out a lot over the past couple of years 223 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: and these non con games, and Baylor can certainly do it. 224 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: I also just really wanted to quick mention Duke is 225 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: playing Oregon State in the one hundred percent Duke Oregon 226 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: State around twenty has spread. No way it'll be higher. 227 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: They're going to destroy the Beavers. Unfortunately for the Oregon 228 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:41,359 Speaker 1: State fans. 229 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: Duke's been awesome, is a big favorite this year, except 230 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: against Bellerman, who is this weird, tough to figure out offense, 231 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: slows it down, shortens the game fifty eight possessions. They 232 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: were able to limit that to Oregon State won't be 233 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: able to do that. I think Matt that has blow 234 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: out written all over it. 235 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Youke will have like double of fans of Oregon State 236 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: has there despite it being in Oregon Dates backyard, and 237 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: that both you will be in attendance, and since you're 238 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: backing Dud, just expect you to be cheering loud. It's 239 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: just Kay Sorry, sorry, Jim, Wow, you're. 240 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: Just gloting to them not going and bruthering it in 241 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: they can. I'm with you. 242 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm stuck. I'm stuck back in the miserable winter of 243 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: Chicago as well. 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Promotional offers not available in 277 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: Nevada and New York. 278 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: And now we get to the power game of the week. 279 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: Oh I could feel it touch on the marquee matchups 280 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: we're looking at this week. Now, we don't know the 281 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: Maui matchups yet for Wednesday, so caveat here, guys. Okay, 282 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: we're recording this in the past. Give us a break. 283 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: But on Thursday, we know the opening matchups for PK 284 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: eighty five, and that's what we're going to focus here. 285 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: Matt Alabama and Michigan State is probably the best game 286 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: of the day. Alabama looks unstoppable, sparty, better than advertised. 287 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: Excited about this one? Who you got very excited? Even 288 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: more excited about Alabama because I'm not all the way, 289 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: A believer in the Michigan State start, which people have 290 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: sort of raised an eyebrows, like, oh, Michigan staying decent 291 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: the Kentucky game. I don't really give them a ton 292 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: of credit for that. I think we've sort of know 293 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: that that Kentucky is a major work in progress. Some credit, well, okay, 294 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: I'll get partial, I'll get partial credit. Sure, I'm given 295 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: all the credit and extra credit to Alabama for what 296 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: they've done so far, and it's been nothing short of magnificent. 297 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: They're playing defense, they're kind of re embodying this physical 298 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: toughness brand of basketball on top of running up and down, 299 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: playing blazing fast shooting, getting to the rim, the rim 300 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: and three rate. It's so obviously through the roof, as 301 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: it always will be under Oa's I just think Alabama 302 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: is a different tier than Michigan State talent wise. I 303 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: think they have a different year and it'll come to 304 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: come to pass in this tilt on the neutral up 305 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: there in the pack northwest of Yep. 306 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: I'm on the Crimson tide with you, Matt. I so 307 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: impressed with them so far. They went on the road 308 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: to South Alabama, a talented in state mid major that's 309 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: looking to get their their shots in at Big Brother, 310 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: and they demolished them completely, took care of business. They're 311 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: number one in the country in two point percentage defense, Wow, 312 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: which is like to me, the ultimate sustainable defensive stat Like, 313 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: if you're taking away the rim, making shots really difficult 314 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: on opponents, that carries forward. I'm so impressed with Alabama 315 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: and we just haven't seen them take on a power 316 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: conference folle yet, so they don't have like the national love. 317 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: This is where they're coming out party against a team 318 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: that we've seen be really tough so far, and to 319 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: have Alabama take care of business against them like I 320 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: think they will, then that'll really open people's eyes. So 321 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: tied for me, Kai. 322 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, major egg on my face for my preseason doubt 323 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: of Alabama so far like Denny's Grand Slam breakfast egg 324 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: on my face. Currently, I agree for the Tide two 325 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: more Here Florida plays Xavier, that spread is about a 326 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: pick most likely, both teams very much need of signature wins. 327 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: And then Yukon plays Oregon. Ken Braum's got this Yukon 328 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: minus four. Honestly, I don't know how the Duck fans 329 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: are going to travel to Portland. They probably should travel 330 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: a lot. But I know Pack twelve fans, Jim, they 331 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: don't really exist, So I don't know what to think 332 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: about this one. 333 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: I think there'll be a decent amount of duck faithful. 334 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: Can I talk Florida Xavier? Is that all right with maybe? 335 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? I just want to see you with both up there. 336 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,119 Speaker 2: Beautiful Florida Xavier two teams we were high on preseason 337 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: because of coaching changes. We thought big time upgrades. We 338 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: like the rosters in both. I have a hard time 339 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: cracking this one, but Matt, I think I leaned towards Xavier. 340 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: Florida has been solid but not great. They lost at 341 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: home to Florida Atlantic. They were down and half toime. 342 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm big to that terrible Florida State team we just 343 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: made fun of and live Dog of the week. They're 344 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: not fully figured out yet. They're they're still sorting out rotations, 345 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Xavier I thought actually looked really 346 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: good against Indiana. They didn't win, but they had a 347 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: banged up Colby Jones. We didn't even know if he 348 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: was going to play until the day of, and they 349 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: hung with them. You know, Haymaker for Haymaker with the Hoosiers. 350 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: I kind of like Xavier here. I just think they're 351 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: a little more proven, a little more ready. Do you 352 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: have a take on that one matter or the other 353 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: matchup that Coy alluded to. 354 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: I have a stronger Yukon lean. I'd stay away from 355 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: the Florida zavior thing. I still stubbornly believe in Florida, 356 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: even though it hasn't looked as great as we thought 357 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: to start so far. Oregon getting both their guards back 358 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: Hawkins and other guy. Oregon, they have two guards, you 359 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: cut you kind of put Yeah, the two guys, just 360 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: get Jordan Hawkins and insert other guard. I just came 361 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: back and blake on his name, Joy Jackson, Jackson, thank you, 362 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean you. Kuiny hasn't really had their backward all season, 363 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: and I think they can compete with Oregon up front. 364 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: I means, bigs are monstrously long, and Dante looks like 365 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: a different vast this year. Finally he's kind of hit 366 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: that next level. But Yukon's got Snogo and a lot 367 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: of length and size up front two so they can 368 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: combat that, and a slide edge to Yukon's guards now 369 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: at their healthy time, So I like the Huskies. Yeah, 370 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: I leaned towards Xavier like Jim, and I agree on Yukon. 371 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: They're quietly killing everybody. They haven't played the best competition, 372 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: but they're smoking guys and they have three or four 373 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: guys out of the lineup. So I kind of agree 374 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: with you on the Huskies here. It's still not a 375 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: huge believer in Dan Hurley, if I'm being honest, but 376 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: I like the. 377 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: The under in Oregon Yukon. We've seen Yukon play pretty 378 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: fast so far. I think maybe that slows a bit 379 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: against the Power Conference team and Oregon's gonna zone them. 380 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: One of the few teams that can really control their 381 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: defensive possession length is our zone teams, and Organs is 382 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: really really slow. I think they'll pump the brakes on 383 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: some of the Yukon's up tempo action in that gamele 384 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: slow to a crawl and a big man brawl in 385 00:17:58,680 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: the paint. 386 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: Like that angle. And with that, we moved to Mid 387 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: Major Game of the Week just two. With the MTES 388 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: the nature of them, we have more power marquee matchups. 389 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: But on Wednesday we have a great one with Kent 390 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: State going to Charleston, Ken Palm's got around to pick 391 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: boy Charleston. Jim has at large aspirations. It's conceivable they 392 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: make the field is that large, and it's also feasible 393 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: for Kent State because they do have road games against 394 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: drum Roll, Gonzaga, and Houston this year. Crazier things have happened. 395 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Who do you like in this matchup? 396 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? You steal one of those and suddenly you're feeling 397 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, Kai, I think I kind of like 398 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: Kent State here. Charleston might have a bit of a 399 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 2: not a hangover, but they won their tournament with an 400 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: awesome crowd backing them throughout the Charleston Classic, first time 401 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: that they've ever won it as the home team. But 402 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if that going to carry into Holiday week. 403 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 2: Is maybe people got hyped for that tournament and then 404 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: went home or aren't going to be around as much. 405 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: And Kent State is really really good. They're backcourt is 406 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: super solid. They had a couple injuries early, but they 407 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: got healthy and they're right back full strength. Now, Matt, 408 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: I like the Golden Flashes. But if you want to 409 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: bet this, wait because the market has bet Charleston three 410 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: to five points in every single game so I think 411 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: they will probably take money again here and you can 412 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: get a little better value in Kent State if you wait. 413 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: Jimy and my market mob will be at the gates 414 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: waiting to hammer Charleston. So once we're done with, once 415 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: we're picking off, done picking off our value, you're welcome 416 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: to come back in. But yeah, I will be on 417 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Charleston here again. I agree with you, it's kind of 418 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: a dead spot. I like Kent State. I mean, not 419 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: even a great matchup really for Charleston. Can't say it's 420 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: got more physicality than that could be a kryptonite for 421 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: the Cougars. But I just still believe there's a lot 422 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: of upside left on the Charleston team. It's deep, it's 423 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: a lot more talented than meets the eye. I think 424 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: the Pat Kelsey's ingenuity is finding guys that are just 425 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: perfect fits for his system, untap value in the D 426 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: two landscape. They're really good. They're a lot better than 427 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: the roster looks. I'm still in on the Charleston things. 428 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: So we're coming for the doors baby, and then Friday 429 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: we have San Francisco at Davidson. This one is more 430 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: of a higher mid major matchup. We should say two 431 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: teams that are still kind of figuring it out. I 432 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: think Davidson Jim a lot of turnover. Obviously, San Francisco 433 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: a lot of turnover as well. Just quick thoughts on 434 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: this game from both of you. I don't even know 435 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: WHOI leen. This is a toss up for me. 436 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: I am not a fan of this Davidson version. I 437 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: just haven't loved what I've seen. They've had a couple 438 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: solid performances. It's not like they're over against the spread 439 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: or anything, but their defense is at bysmal. They have 440 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: no athleticism, and last year I think they covered from 441 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: that by being a little longer on the wings. They 442 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: were really smart. They packed it in, forced you to 443 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: shoot over the top. Now they're just kind of getting 444 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: beat off the balance and they can't keep you out 445 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: of the lane. I have some real worries with them 446 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. They've got talent many they've got Tyroll. 447 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: Roberts came from Washington State. Marcus Williams the old Mountain 448 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: West Freshman of the Year. He was at Texas A 449 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: and M last year. Khalil Shabaz is an NCAA tournament guard. 450 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: We saw him help San Francisco get there last year 451 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: and their front court is deep. I just think San 452 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: Francisco is better and Davidson isn't. They haven't solved it 453 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: yet with their coaching change. Matthew, I agree. 454 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: I I'm torn on this one, to be honest, Like 455 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: I look at San Francisco, but they've done so far, 456 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: and they've played some tough teams, like kind of feisty 457 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: trip to the trip to the dentist type teams. I 458 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: still believe in their talent I believe they haven't quite 459 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: hit their stride yet. There's a little more room to 460 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: fly for the Dons while coach still under the Todd 461 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: Golden Tree, Chris co Lopson. Like you said, there's talent there, 462 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: there's depth. I think it's actually more size up front, 463 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: which is shocking to think in a Sanrancisco Vers which 464 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: tall matchup. But I do like Don's. 465 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: There's a revenge j angle for Davidson because they lost 466 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: out in San Francisco last year to the Dons. 467 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: Maybe, oh, yeah, that's true. At the game now the 468 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: Don's got him because they played him at a Steph 469 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: kurtr at the Yeah, that's right game, the not so 470 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: home they're not so neutral neutral, yes exactly, yeah, Aline Davidson, 471 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: but I'm skeptical of both teams. All right, trash man 472 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: pick of the week on the trash Just throw me 473 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: the trash, your garbage, and you know it. Totally unreliable, undependable. 474 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 3: That's it. 475 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: You've been told off. 476 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: How do you like that? Good? 477 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: Hey? 478 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: Last week's was actually kind of efficient elon North Dakota 479 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: only sixty six possessions but over one point one points 480 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: per possession for each team. Not as trashy as we expected. 481 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: This week we got a real doozy. We got Mississippi 482 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: Valley State argue with the worst team in the country 483 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: traveling to air Force. It's a sixteen point spread and 484 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: it's featuring two of the worst offices in the country. 485 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: Missisippi Valley State three hundred fifty ninth, air Force three 486 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: hundred and ninth per km pum and sixty five possessions. 487 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Is the projection here, Matt, this is a trash trash 488 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: pic of the week. Yeah, it's gross. I kind of 489 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: think Missie Valley State mptes here like they're not going 490 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: to be our athletics sized. It's not a word, but 491 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: it is now by air Force, and I think they 492 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: just can maybe have one of those games where as 493 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: you just witnessed as Mzoo fans Terry Collins goes completely ballistic. 494 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: They got a couple other guys that I mean, I'm 495 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: not going to say they have talent, it's Missie Valley State, 496 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: but they have guys that can get hot, and this 497 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: is sort of a matchup where they'll be comfortable playing 498 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: against air Force's defense and maybe they can't get hot. 499 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: And in sixteen is just a big number for an 500 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: air Force team that isn't electric offensively and that plays 501 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: really slow. 502 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, in Missisipi Valley State's playing slow. George Iriver has 503 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: totally slowed them down, tried to hit the brakes, and 504 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: we've seen year after year the Lindsay Hunter teams get 505 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: smashed because they try to play seventy five possession games 506 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: with teams with way better talent, and at least they're 507 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: playing smarter. I don't know if that team can solve 508 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: the matchup zone that Joe Scott's going to throw at them, 509 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: or if they can defend Princeton, But in a game 510 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: that's going to be as slow as I expected to be, 511 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: kind I would lean towards the dog. Also, like Matt mentioned, 512 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: air Force not a big favorite crusher in my perception 513 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: of them. 514 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm torn. Air Force just beat Upstate by 515 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: twenty seven. I didn't even know they could do that. 516 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: But they are hurt a little bit. I guess i'd 517 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: belave Missippi Valley. I probably won't bet it again. Folks, 518 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: don't watch this game. Just don't watch this game. Okay. 519 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna end this section with our spotlight section, where 520 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: we try to highlight trends or stuff of that ilk 521 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: around college basketball. This week's trend is over Kings and 522 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: under Darlings. That's right, teams that are really good going 523 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: over the point total and teams are really good going 524 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: under the point total. There are two teams in college 525 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: basketball currently that are five and zero to the over. 526 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: They are Fairley Dickinson, who's playing faster this season, perhaps 527 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: faster than expected under their new coach, and Baylor, the 528 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: defense has not been quite as sharp as expected currently. Also, 529 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: Jim playing at the fastest tempo ever under Scott Drew. Surprised. 530 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so guard heavy. I guess it makes sense. 531 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 2: I am a little surprised by it just because it's 532 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: you know, it's a out of the ordinary for them, 533 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: but they're playing to their strengths, and that's kind of 534 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: what we think of in a good coach who adapts 535 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: his system to the roster at hand. His best lineups 536 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: have two six to one guards out there with Flagler 537 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: and cry running around Barrion triples County George is a 538 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: difference maker, especially in transition. I think that's relatively sustainable 539 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: with Baylor. Matt. I'm sure you'll harp on their defensive 540 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: foibles as being a big part of it too. I 541 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: know you're skeptical of the Bears defensively, but I buy 542 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: that and fairly, Dickinson, that's a small team. They brought 543 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: like a five eight and a five to nine guard 544 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: from the Vision two level. I'm not surprised that they're 545 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: bad defensively, but potent on offense. I think that's also 546 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: going to carry forward. 547 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't love Baylor's defense as like the 548 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: dynamite destructive perimeter pressure version that we've seen the last 549 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: two years. It's good, it's just not great. So I 550 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: think this they have a really high standard in the market. 551 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: Is baking in their defense is like a top ten, 552 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: top twenty unit, and I think it's trending closer to like, 553 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, top fringe, top fifty ish. I guess two 554 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: more notable undefeated over teams, both four and OHO, the 555 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: mac Fireballs of Toledo and UAB, and I believe Toledo 556 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: continued that trend today against East Carolina. Had to check 557 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: this the total score on that one. And then Oakland, 558 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: a team that's basically, hey, we don't defend and we 559 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: love to score. So I would say no surprises there 560 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: for those three teams. Nodding an agreement our gym and Matt, 561 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: I sure. 562 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 2: Am, yes, yeah, they fit the bill. Kai they fit 563 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: the bill. It's not usually when I hunt for over 564 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: or under teams it's very tempo based because I find 565 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: pace to be more predictive. But there's always a few 566 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: teams that are so bad defensively and so much more 567 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: focused on the offense that you can find overs. And 568 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: that's like exactly what I think of with Oakland. That 569 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: team has not shown any interest in playing defense this year, 570 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: even though they're playing zones sometimes defensively to try to 571 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: slow teams down. Doesn't matter. They're going to give up points. 572 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: Points indeed, but these teams do not give up points, 573 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: or rather than don't score points, or they just don't 574 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: play very fast. These are the under darlings of college basketball. 575 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: There are five teams in the zero to five club, 576 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: that is five and zero to the under Minnesota no 577 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: Jamison battle for the first few games here clearly affected 578 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: has affected their scoring. Boise State one of the grossest 579 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: teams to watch right now, Matt lockdown defense, slow pace, 580 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: bad offense. Wyoming without their center gram Y k Maybe 581 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: a bit counterintuitive. Utah one of Matt and Jim's favorite teams, 582 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: although we're going to talk about them maybe a little 583 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: bit more because their opponents have been I think a 584 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: little bit misleading. And the Mississippi State under Chris jians 585 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: new leadership there has them playing at a top ten 586 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: defense currently per Ken Pump. Matt, those five teams, pick 587 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: one out and tell me about Mississippi State's my favorite 588 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: of this bunch. Like, if you want to back one 589 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: of these teams in the next three to four games, 590 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: just blindly betting their unders, I think that's the one 591 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: I would choose. They just have a lot more of 592 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: momentum from defense. Is awesome, tempo is slow, but actually 593 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: maybe even inflated by the fact and they just played Marquette, 594 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: for example, they played at South Dakota game before that 595 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: they held them to sixty six to sixty possessions. I 596 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: think they're going to crawl even more. Look at James's history. 597 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: We're not cheting a ton of threes this year because 598 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: they don't have many shooters on that roster, so I 599 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: think offensively, they're going to struggle to score. I guess Marquette, 600 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: their offensive was really cramped. It's heavily execution reliant. I 601 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: just go down the line. There's a lot of things 602 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: working in Missisby State's favor from an under perspective, and 603 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: as they play higher competitive, closer games, I think that'll 604 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: even compress the pace more so. Missiby State unders are 605 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: probably a good look going forward. 606 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: I was super impressed with how they slowed down Marquette, 607 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: Like Marquette wants to go, go go, and that was 608 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: a sixty six possession game that a bunch of possessions 609 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: in the final minute where they like traded back and forth. 610 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: It was even slower than that from a normal, normal, 611 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: lized sense of it. Kyle, I'll leave Utah to you, 612 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: Wyoming is the one that's really strange to me. I 613 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: thought they would hit the gas without Ek and they 614 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: kind of tried to. Their possession length was really short 615 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: for a while, but then their MTE they played really slow, 616 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: and recently Hunter Maldonado hit his head on the ground 617 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: I think, and has a concussion issue, didn't play most 618 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: of their last game, and they can't score without him 619 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: and grahamy k out an extended period of time. I 620 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: know they've got those three Pac twelve transfers, but those 621 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: guys aren't very good. They weren't good. They weren't good 622 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve. They just kind of had the 623 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: shiny USC slash UCLA label coming into the Mountain West. 624 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: And that team is really really dire scoring the basketball 625 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: right now, not living up to preseason expectations at all. 626 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: And I think, especially if Maldo continues to be out 627 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: for a while, then they're going to be. 628 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: Under city, under city, maybe even a fade target as well. Yeah, 629 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: I will end on Utah here. They've played Bakersfield, Idaho State, 630 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: and sam Houston, three of the slowest offensive teams in 631 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: the country, also pretty good at slogging games up They've 632 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: played l i U, who is one of the worst 633 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: offenses in the country and all around worst teams. And 634 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: they've played Georgia Tech, who is also very tough on offense, 635 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: and it's gross. Yep. So they're a little misleading, I 636 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: think because Utah does play a little quicker on offense. However, 637 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: they also slow teams down on defense. We'll see if 638 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: that trend continues forward. I tend to think it'll bounce back, 639 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: so be cautious on Utah and not just blindly follow 640 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: that trend. 641 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: I'll say final lesson here. If you're listening to this 642 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, when it's out today, You've got Mississippi State 643 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 2: against Utah. Yeah, that game could be disgusting, slow, very 644 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: defense heavy, a lot of bigs, very little shooting on 645 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: either side of the ball. That might be worth the 646 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: UH in the auto under bet there. 647 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had endorse that as well. Speaking up, just 648 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: a final bet recap before we sign off. I'm taking 649 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: Army and Sienna on the money line. I am going 650 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: to ride with the Tide in PK eighty five against 651 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Michigan State, and I'm taking Davidson the Wildcats against San 652 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: Francisco in one of our mid major games of the week. 653 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: Those are my picks. Jim, going to. 654 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: You taking Butler to cover against Tennessee up to you 655 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: if you want to sprinkle the money line. I think 656 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: Siena is worth the money line against Florida State taking that. 657 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: Also going to be on Iowa State against Villanova in 658 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: their MTE. I think that's a good wager. I'm going 659 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: to participate in the Fade Oregon State Fade the Bad 660 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: PAC twelve with the first game of the PK eighty five. 661 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: I think Duke blows them out with Kai on Alabama. 662 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: In that game, I think they take down Michigan State. 663 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: And then in the mid major game of the week, 664 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: it sounds like Matt and I are head to head. 665 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: I'll be on the Golden Flashes of Charleston assuming it 666 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: gets up to in state, Charleston right in state, assuming 667 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: gets still like three and a half or four after 668 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: it gets bat. 669 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: I think I'll nix Charleston just because I feel like 670 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: it's going to end up being like Charleston minus three 671 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: or four given the market. I just don't really want 672 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: to endorse that at a at a bad number from 673 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: my angle. Now, if you're a gym believer in Jim Backer. 674 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: Then right with the flashes Kai Official plays for me 675 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: Butler money line and against the number. I'm going to 676 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: take Army the troops over across the pond against the number, 677 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: and then also Duke to smash Oregon State. So love it, folks. 678 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on the Big Bets on 679 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: Campus podcast again thanks to bet MGM. Good luck on 680 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: your bets this week and we will see next week. 681 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: H