Speaker 1: Hello, sexy people.
Speaker 2: It is Lala Kent and Randall and this is to
Speaker 2: give them Lala with Randall podcast.
Speaker 1: How you doing Baby, I'm good, Hunt.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't complain.
Speaker 4: We're out here in Puerto Rico liv in a pretty
Speaker 4: good moment.
Speaker 2: We're literally on a yacht right now in the bedroom
Speaker 2: doing this podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty unique.
Speaker 4: I gotta say, I didn't think I'd ever be on
Speaker 4: a boat in the uh waters off of San Juan.
Speaker 2: This is why I love Randal, because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's pretty unique. I'm like, this is pretty fucking bad
Speaker 2: at It's pretty unique.
Speaker 3: Guys, it's pretty dope. I gotta say.
Speaker 4: I I you know, I when I came up with
Speaker 4: the idea because I knew we were like limited for time.
Speaker 4: You're only out here visiting me for like this week.
Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, when can we fit this in.
Speaker 4: I've got my kids here. Yeah, you I'm making a movie.
Speaker 4: It's a little busy, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 4: let's just do it boat.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: We had no other choice because Randall's here in Puerto
Speaker 2: Rico making a movie until the end of March. I
Speaker 2: am literally flying out tonight to Miami so that Randall's
Speaker 2: mom can help me register for the wedding.
Speaker 4: Then you go back and after that you have to
Speaker 4: do your bridle shower, you have to do your fitting,
Speaker 4: you have to do your bachelor party.
Speaker 1: You got all the fitting of my wedding dress. Yep, yep,
Speaker 1: you got to You got a full skill, you got
Speaker 1: a full schedule, plus all.
Speaker 4: Your other business that you run with your brands and stuff.
Speaker 4: So I'm very impressed.
Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmed, to say the very Let me ask you
Speaker 1: a better.
Speaker 4: Question, ask me, how are you really doing? I think
Speaker 4: because I've seen you have a few meltdowns in the
Speaker 4: last twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling a lot of anxiety. I'm feeling like I'm
Speaker 2: under a lot of pressure. There's just things that go
Speaker 2: into a wedding and then maintaining your normal life like
Speaker 2: business that you have to run.
Speaker 1: It's a lot.
Speaker 3: It's overwhelming.
Speaker 4: I kind of have like gone down a path where
Speaker 4: I've immersed myself into this movie. And then I get
Speaker 4: about four hundred a day between you, my mother, your mother,
Speaker 4: and the wedding pointer.
Speaker 3: So you're on the firing line right now. So I
Speaker 3: give you a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also stressful having my partner gone until literally
Speaker 2: eighteen days before we walked down the aisle.
Speaker 1: If that had to rips me the fuck out.
Speaker 3: Would I would feel that way too, But I got
Speaker 3: to pay the bills.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about something mindless and fun like vander
Speaker 2: Pump Rules for tonight?
Speaker 4: I think I think that. I think Fander Will Tim.
Speaker 4: Don't you think Fanner Pump Rules has some depth to it?
Speaker 2: I do, absolutely yes, it has depth, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Just something where it's like easy and if
Speaker 2: we talk.
Speaker 1: Shit and okay fun.
Speaker 3: Why don't you tell Tim?
Speaker 4: Tim has to seen a frigging episode, So why don't
Speaker 4: you tell us about last Weekay? Well, let's talk about
Speaker 4: last Weekcause Tim, you know what last week was, right?
Speaker 4: It was a big Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was your premiere on the.
Speaker 4: Show, which which I thought after four years of never
Speaker 4: ever thinking this is going to happen, Lalla manipulated me
Speaker 4: at the highest level. And by the way, after seeing it,
Speaker 4: I really do love fucking fried chicken sandwiches.
Speaker 3: And anybody has a problem with that.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone had a problem with it.
Speaker 3: I love fried chicken sandwich.
Speaker 4: I'm glad they gave close ups I mean, if I
Speaker 4: was making a movie, I wouldn't have focused on the
Speaker 4: fried chicken.
Speaker 3: But I guess that was exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, random was like they did me so dirty? Why
Speaker 1: would they?
Speaker 2: They didn't show any of us ordering except Randall because
Speaker 2: you got the stuff fried chicken.
Speaker 6: I mean that's pretty fucked up.
Speaker 3: I mean, Tim, there's a lot of other shit the
Speaker 3: sea besides the fed. Nobody else ate, only you were
Speaker 3: the only person that ate.
Speaker 4: That's my point, babe. How come what did you guys
Speaker 4: have a Well?
Speaker 2: You know why they did that, right, because it stirs
Speaker 2: up the controversy. At one point, James body shamed you,
Speaker 2: so they zoned in on the fact that you ordered
Speaker 2: double fried chicken.
Speaker 1: It's fucked up.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: Welcome to it.
Speaker 3: If I ever filmed this.
Speaker 4: Show again, I'm gonna order six desserts because I'm just mad.
Speaker 6: You should just not eat one of the desserts and
Speaker 6: just give them to everybody else, right, see it, sit
Speaker 6: in satisfaction while everybody else enjoys the totally.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 4: I think I got screwed. I mean there were close ups.
Speaker 4: I mean they should have just gone to slow motion.
Speaker 4: Why don't we just go to slow motion with the
Speaker 4: chicken going in my mouth?
Speaker 1: Right? Well, they couldn't do that because they had to
Speaker 1: fit newbies in.
Speaker 3: Oh here we go. Here, I was about to light
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 2: So many people have been dming me, like, how do
Speaker 2: you feel about.
Speaker 1: Sena bullying Dana because you were once in that spot.
Speaker 1: I fucking wish it was Shina that was bullying me.
Speaker 1: That's fucking child's play, Like row ro row your fucking belt.
Speaker 3: Man, you know boy, Oh here we go.
Speaker 2: I'm like you guys like, yes, not cool what Shina
Speaker 2: does to Dana. But like I had pit bulls after me,
Speaker 2: Katie and Stossey are no joke.
Speaker 1: Like if they were coming for Dana then I'd be like,
Speaker 1: this is not cool. But Sheina, Like.
Speaker 3: Okay, I just want to say she and I do
Speaker 3: like you. I'm just gonna put it out.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying Gina's a nice person with a
Speaker 2: kind heart. So when she tries to bully people, that's
Speaker 2: all it is is she's trying to It doesn't really
Speaker 2: work out that well.
Speaker 3: Are we done with the Vanderpunt segment? You don't like
Speaker 3: it too, But I just think.
Speaker 1: Like I make you feel uncomfortable, yeah, very.
Speaker 3: But can I say what thing though? Because because people
Speaker 3: have asked.
Speaker 4: Me a lot, and when I premiered that episode with you,
Speaker 4: I just want to tell you something. I really was
Speaker 4: so uncomfortable going into this to do this and to
Speaker 4: show this part of our life. And I will tell
Speaker 4: you that being with you, you're obviously very comfortable in
Speaker 4: front of the camera, and you made me very comfortable.
Speaker 3: And I think that.
Speaker 4: It's nice that people do get to see us the
Speaker 4: way we are, you know, a little slice, a small slice,
Speaker 4: and I didn't mind it, and people were very kind
Speaker 4: in the comments. I was shocked because I thought it
Speaker 4: was just going to be a you know, a beheading.
Speaker 2: No. But I also think that because the podcast happened
Speaker 2: a little bit before the episode, people really got to
Speaker 2: see what you were like as a person, you know,
Speaker 2: because no one knew what you were like and how
Speaker 2: we are together until we did the podcast, and then
Speaker 2: it kind of broke people into it prepared them.
Speaker 1: It prepared them.
Speaker 4: Okay, I dig that, and actually that's nice and I
Speaker 4: and I think it's nice. I think I want to
Speaker 4: tell you something now that I'm looking out the.
Speaker 3: Hatch of this bedroom at the ocean.
Speaker 1: You're mad.
Speaker 4: No, I just think it's pretty dope, like it is
Speaker 4: pretty cool, Like it's I think if our you know
Speaker 4: what we should do? What we should do a giveaway
Speaker 4: where we invite like five or ten of your fans
Speaker 4: to a trip to Miami on the yacht where we
Speaker 4: podcast live.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we need to pass a background check?
Speaker 3: Why, Alex? Why?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just.
Speaker 1: Invite five people that we don't know to Miami.
Speaker 4: These are your favorite I think faith, I have faith.
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid, Alex. Do you think, Alex, you will
Speaker 4: need Okay, our producers are here on the boat with us.
Speaker 3: Alex.
Speaker 4: Do you think we would really need to pass a
Speaker 4: background Honestly, I.
Speaker 8: Think just for the sport of it all, we should
Speaker 8: not do a background. That's saying do they giveaway on Instagram? General? All,
Speaker 8: all people are welcome, no questions asked. Then you've got
Speaker 8: a show and mind.
Speaker 2: These boys, these producer Tim and producer Alex are about
Speaker 2: seven to ten drinks deep.
Speaker 3: That's not true. There twelve twelve and.
Speaker 1: I encourage it. Let's talk about this.
Speaker 2: So last week's episode, you know how we asked our
Speaker 2: listeners to call and tell us we are taking up
Speaker 2: the anchors, y'all.
Speaker 3: Do you hear that the background?
Speaker 1: The anchors are coming up.
Speaker 3: It'll be up in a minute.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So last week we asked our listeners to call in
Speaker 2: because you and I were battling about one kid or two.
Speaker 1: Well, the callers have voted.
Speaker 3: Oh they have.
Speaker 1: They say, were you present last week for the podcast?
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was like you were going to
Speaker 3: really take it to this level?
Speaker 1: Of course I did.
Speaker 3: There's some missions going on with this podcast.
Speaker 2: So out of all of the voicemails we got, which
Speaker 2: were a lot, you only got five people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bullshit, what I tell you. They're all your fans.
Speaker 3: Of course I was gonna get it.
Speaker 2: No, you did get Listen though, Listen to this voicemail
Speaker 2: from one of the five, from one of the five
Speaker 2: that had your back.
Speaker 7: Hey, Lala and Randall, this is Emily Friend, Kingsport, Tennessee.
Speaker 7: I love y'all podcast. It's so interesting to just tear
Speaker 7: your dynamic and learn more about you. But I'm calling
Speaker 7: to vote on how many kiss you.
Speaker 9: Should have because you know it's completely my business.
Speaker 7: But La La, I want you to know I was
Speaker 7: the kid who had the two step siblings and on Christmas,
Speaker 7: you know, so they would leave. We would have to
Speaker 7: split every holiday. And it's probably the selfish bitch inside me,
Speaker 7: but I loved it when my step siblings left and
Speaker 7: then it was just me and my mom and dad.
Speaker 7: And you know it sounds bad, but I was about
Speaker 7: that last So sorry, I'm team Randall.
Speaker 9: One kid. Bye, guys.
Speaker 4: Okay, I need a response to that, right o, Emily,
Speaker 4: I've never even heard of Kingsport, Tennessee. But I'm gonna
Speaker 4: tell you something great great, great town, great town, good people. Emily.
Speaker 4: You're with me for life. I'm your biggest fan Kingsport, Tennessee.
Speaker 4: I'm coming hot. I'm gonna come check that place out, Laala.
Speaker 4: Emily has spoken and she is She's the boss. How
Speaker 4: do you want to respond to that, Lalla?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna respond this way.
Speaker 2: If I decide I want two kids, I will be
Speaker 2: getting two kids. So yes, I will be getting two
Speaker 2: kids if I want two kids, Lalla.
Speaker 3: However many kids you want, you can have a I
Speaker 3: love you very much.
Speaker 1: That is a great answer. There we go.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Emily from Kinnning Sport, I'm with you, but Lala,
Speaker 4: at the end, of the day.
Speaker 3: She's the boss.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't want to come home to an unhappy Lalla.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody does, including myself. You have to
Speaker 2: live with yourself, which is even more tortuous answer. You know,
Speaker 2: we had an exciting guest today.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So what makes today amazing is that my friend of
Speaker 4: like fifteen years, Jesse Terrero, who is an incredible filmmaker,
Speaker 4: one of the biggest music video directors in the business,
Speaker 4: directed a movie. And here's what's cool, Tim, producer. Tim
Speaker 4: was producer's assistant on the movie that jessere Jesse directed.
Speaker 6: The second one he directed, the second one he directed
Speaker 6: ten years ago.
Speaker 4: Tim was my assistant and now Tim's producer Tim both
Speaker 4: on movies and on the podcast. So we are both
Speaker 4: excited because it's like memory late. So, Jesse Guerrero, I.
Speaker 6: Was fired on his movie.
Speaker 3: I did fire.
Speaker 6: I was fired on Jesse's Here.
Speaker 1: We Go and then brought back because.
Speaker 6: The next day I was rehired and promoted. But I
Speaker 6: was I was fired for real.
Speaker 4: No, I sent us home. I said, you're fired, it's
Speaker 4: over because he was a horrible You were horrible.
Speaker 3: Where was this?
Speaker 1: Where was this?
Speaker 3: We were well new Orleans, New Orleans. We were filming,
Speaker 3: but in LA I sent him home. He goes back
Speaker 3: to LA.
Speaker 4: He's fired, and then I wake up and I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know what, the guy is so good with script
Speaker 4: and he's so good. It's like, you know, a really
Speaker 4: good material driven guy. He's very good with writers. And
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna promote him.
Speaker 4: I fired him so I could promote him. Can I
Speaker 4: promoted him to develop executive?
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: I mean it was bittersweet because when I was fired,
Speaker 6: I was like, oh yeah, really, Oh, I was so relieved.
Speaker 6: But then, you know, my ultimate goal obviously was to
Speaker 6: grow in the industry, so you know, I didn't even
Speaker 6: have to think about it, and I promoted.
Speaker 4: I said, Tim, you know, I know your strengths are
Speaker 4: with script and I really need somebody that knows script
Speaker 4: in and out.
Speaker 3: And I promoted him.
Speaker 4: Twelve years later, now he's producing the movie I'm directing
Speaker 4: out here in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3: Is that amazing? Which is an honor?
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, that movie was it that Jesse
Speaker 1: Treir was.
Speaker 4: Jesse directed a very small budgeted film that we had starring.
Speaker 6: Fifty Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer's the first one, yeah, right,
Speaker 6: and then Freelancers, which was De Niro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had Robert de Niro fifty cent it was
Speaker 4: it was actually a great film and it was a
Speaker 4: great experience.
Speaker 3: And that was one of the first times we have
Speaker 3: to work with ni Forest Whitaker and Forrest Whitaker.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Justin directed two good movies for us. Jeff
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna say something. Jesse has become, like you know,
Speaker 4: he is incredibly influential in the music scene. He'll he'll
Speaker 4: get into his resume with us and how he started.
Speaker 4: But I just want people to know, like when on
Speaker 4: this podcast, that we're also going to have people behind
Speaker 4: the scenes like myself. I think it's really exciting and
Speaker 4: interesting to hear. And Jesse's a big personality and a
Speaker 4: great guy, so I think we should we should bring
Speaker 4: him out here.
Speaker 1: Let's bring him out.
Speaker 3: We'll bring him down to the Let's bring him.
Speaker 2: Down to this tiny ass yacht bedroom.
Speaker 3: All right, we are back, law. Are you ready for Jesse?
Speaker 1: I'm ready for Jesse.
Speaker 4: All right, Let's welcome my buddy and an incredible filmmaker,
Speaker 4: Jesse Crrero.
Speaker 3: Welcome, buddy.
Speaker 5: What's up? What's up? What's going on.
Speaker 4: So here's the crazy thing, Jess, I invited you on
Speaker 4: a yacht today to come chill with us, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: you also got to be on our podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we hustled out of here.
Speaker 5: This is the best invitation to a podcast. Every think
Speaker 5: anybody got the yacht invitation to record?
Speaker 4: All right, So Jess, tell fans like they don't know, like,
Speaker 4: you know, your history, how you started came up with
Speaker 4: music videos and et cetera. Why don't you just tell them,
Speaker 4: like you know, how you just start directing and kind
Speaker 4: of you know, ledg.
Speaker 3: You to where you are today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean for me, it sort of happened by accident,
Speaker 5: because you know, I grew up in the neighborhood where
Speaker 5: we didn't dream about being filmmakers. And my mother worked
Speaker 5: that night, my father worked in the day, and there
Speaker 5: was a gap of time where nobody was home. So
Speaker 5: my mother bought a camera and she said, while she's
Speaker 5: on her way from work and my father's on the
Speaker 5: way to work, nobody could go into the streets. And
Speaker 5: we were like thirteen twelve, eleven ten, and we started
Speaker 5: making movies in those two hours. Wow, as my parents
Speaker 5: are coming home, and my father actually worked in the
Speaker 5: mainenance department in CBS, so you know, my father came
Speaker 5: from the Dominican Republic. My mom as well, didn't speak
Speaker 5: the language, and my father got a maintenance job, but
Speaker 5: he would get things and he would bring home, like
Speaker 5: soundtracks from like movies and TV shows, and we started
Speaker 5: using that in these little urban movies we were doing.
Speaker 5: And my brother Ulysses personality is much bigger than mine,
Speaker 5: so he always wanted to start in the movies, so
Speaker 5: it forced me to have to. So every movie had
Speaker 5: like his title, like Julie on Elm Street Super and
Speaker 5: then you know, somebody had to manage the camera. So
Speaker 5: you know, I was always like the you know, the
Speaker 5: guy that got killed quick. But I learned how to.
Speaker 5: You know, we started making movies young, and.
Speaker 3: That how you transition into the know.
Speaker 5: We used to watch this video program called Video Music
Speaker 5: Box and it was like the first channel that showed
Speaker 5: music videos. And one day they made an announcement that
Speaker 5: they were casting a film. Now, all we had was
Speaker 5: our ghetto acting that we did at the house, so
Speaker 5: we thought it was a good idea. Maybe there'll be
Speaker 5: a lot of hot girls there. So we went to
Speaker 5: the casting and a lot of Latin kids didn't show
Speaker 5: up to the casting, so the casting director was like, look,
Speaker 5: we're looking for kids your type. And the movie was
Speaker 5: called Juice with Tupac Shakur, so we were part of
Speaker 5: the Latin gang that had beef for Tupac in the movie.
Speaker 5: And that was the first time I really stepped on
Speaker 5: the movie set.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was me and my brother Vincent Aureska played
Speaker 5: like the lead.
Speaker 3: I loved Eddie because a place.
Speaker 5: Poker and that I signed up any videws. I loved
Speaker 5: it in together. And after that, I saw like a
Speaker 5: bunch of people that you know, I thought were cool,
Speaker 5: that looked like me working on film, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 5: you know, some people can really do this. And when
Speaker 5: I met Vinnie and those guys, they all went to
Speaker 5: the school of Performing arts. Like in my neighborhood, I
Speaker 5: grew up with Jamaica queens. Like people weren't going to
Speaker 5: the performing arts school. So I was like, wow, this,
Speaker 5: you know this, you know, I didn't know anybody like that.
Speaker 5: And then I, you know, switched my major in college
Speaker 5: and started studying theater and then you know, directing and
Speaker 5: shot a short film my junior year in school, and
Speaker 5: because the people I met on Juice, they offered me
Speaker 5: an internship on the Columbia Pictures project. In the third
Speaker 5: year in college, I dropped out to do that and
Speaker 5: then I never stopped working.
Speaker 4: Wow, okay, what was the first because was it music videos,
Speaker 4: TV or features?
Speaker 3: When you first started?
Speaker 5: When I worked on features? So you know, so I
Speaker 5: interned and I did everything. I ran around, getting people coffee,
Speaker 5: picking up the direct everything that that I needed to
Speaker 5: to sort of and be on set and soak up
Speaker 5: a bunch of things. And then the music video thing
Speaker 5: started to happen in New York, and because we interned
Speaker 5: on the film, we would get jobs and opportunities. And
Speaker 5: now look, Tupac, who was a good friend of minees
Speaker 5: became a huge star.
Speaker 3: Oh Tupac was your friend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I still run around with Pac and you know,
Speaker 5: and then Tretch from Naughty by Nature was one of
Speaker 5: his best friends, and he's an extra and Juice too.
Speaker 5: He was part of the gang with us. So all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, by the time Juice is getting ready
Speaker 5: to come out, you know, Pok didn't have no music out.
Speaker 5: He had one little song when we did Juice, so
Speaker 5: by the time the movie came out a year later,
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you know, this kid becomes the
Speaker 5: biggest artist in the world. And then Tretch invites us
Speaker 5: to a music video. Never heard the kid rap, and
Speaker 5: we show up to his music video as a song
Speaker 5: called opp Then and this kid becomes like gigantic, and
Speaker 5: then you know, now I'm like seeing the music video
Speaker 5: thing happen. I'm around it. It's like, you know, an
Speaker 5: incredible experience, is surreal, you know, wow. And I met
Speaker 5: some directors along the way, and we started getting working
Speaker 5: behind the scenes on some music videos and.
Speaker 3: Who gives you your first break.
Speaker 5: What I didn't though, is I didn't know that some
Speaker 5: directors didn't write their concepts. So I was around this
Speaker 5: one director and I heard her complaining that Puffy didn't
Speaker 5: like the concept from Hype Williams or this director, Dan
Speaker 5: Marteau and a bunch of people, and I saw that
Speaker 5: when I heard the conversation, I knew what Puffy probably meant.
Speaker 5: So you know, I made a comment. I was like,
Speaker 5: I think I know what he wants. And then she
Speaker 5: was like, oh, you're so smart. When did you write
Speaker 5: the concept? So I did and she got the job.
Speaker 5: So then she was like, Okay, maybe he does know
Speaker 5: what's going on. So for the next couple of years,
Speaker 5: I was behind a lot of concepts and music videos,
Speaker 5: so everybody knew me as a creative guy, and even
Speaker 5: artists will send me their songs and I would write
Speaker 5: the concept I just didn't get credit for doing it.
Speaker 5: I would get five hundred bucks and the directors. These
Speaker 5: were million dollar videos. So at some point I was like,
Speaker 5: the math didn't that up. I was like, and the
Speaker 5: one director I worked with it she told me, she goes, look, man,
Speaker 5: you write great ideas, but you don't write them well,
Speaker 5: like you need to learn how to write the treatments.
Speaker 5: And then she showed me a bunch of better creatives
Speaker 5: and I learned how to write the treatments better. And
Speaker 5: then I sort of took off in that space. And
Speaker 5: then there was a Chris Robinson who was a young
Speaker 5: black director coming out as one of those bags. He
Speaker 5: was coming up and his reps found out that I
Speaker 5: was writing for Dan Martell, and they said, hey, why
Speaker 5: don't you start being on Chris's team? And when I
Speaker 5: met Chris, he was doing one hundred and fifty thousand videos,
Speaker 5: and we used to sit in a room together and
Speaker 5: just christ yeah yeah, and then we just his career
Speaker 5: started taking off. I was part of that wave. Chris
Speaker 5: showed me a lot. I was part of his creative team,
Speaker 5: and then ultimately he signed me.
Speaker 3: As a director, and that's how it happened. That's how it happened.
Speaker 3: What's the first video you do?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: I started doing some small videos in Canada. First, these
Speaker 5: Canadian artists. Canada gives you like free money to make videos.
Speaker 3: Budgets were good.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, they weren't good. They were like ten grand.
Speaker 5: But you know, they would get the money for free,
Speaker 5: like they would get these grants from the government. So
Speaker 5: these kids would make me write these treatments for them
Speaker 5: because they knew I wrote treatments, But then nobody understood
Speaker 5: them because they were like Wu tang idea is. But
Speaker 5: Canada was not hard then, so they were like, whoa, no,
Speaker 5: but it's more urban now. You know, I'm not knocking Canada.
Speaker 1: You know that's pretty hard.
Speaker 5: But you know, back then, the you know, I was
Speaker 5: writing stuff that felt like Wu tangle mob deep and
Speaker 5: some of the directors there didn't understand it at the time.
Speaker 5: So the kids were like, hey, why don't you direct it?
Speaker 5: And that sort of becan how it became. And then
Speaker 5: you know, I did a ten thousand dollars video that
Speaker 5: got nominated for Much Music Video of the Year.
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 5: And then after that huge and after that, I was
Speaker 5: because I'm king hot in Canada. But and I was
Speaker 5: sent an assistant in the US.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 5: So I would drive nine hours by myself because you know,
Speaker 5: most of my friends didn't believe in the directing thing.
Speaker 5: Popping no, those pills, driving myself to Canada. You know, Fuck,
Speaker 5: this is you know, hustling.
Speaker 4: You know what was the first big video job you
Speaker 4: got that really you knew when you showed up? Like
Speaker 4: I remember my first movie I produced.
Speaker 5: You know, the first when I signed with Chris Robinson.
Speaker 5: He brought me an artist by the name of Jill Scott.
Speaker 5: And Jill Scott at the time, you know, she she
Speaker 5: she wrote a song with the that the roots in Erkabo.
Speaker 5: Dude recorded that one and won a Grammy. They took
Speaker 5: her off the song because she wasn't popular and the
Speaker 5: record lay would put eric about Duke because they were like,
Speaker 5: who is Joe Scott? Like, they took her right off
Speaker 5: her record, you know, but she won the Grammy. When
Speaker 5: I went to meet in Philadelphia, her album was titled
Speaker 5: who Is Joe Scott? And she was like, Yo, this year,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna crush it, and so she wanted to do
Speaker 5: something different. I wrote two videos. We did them back
Speaker 5: to back and got caught a nomination Ride Out the
Speaker 5: Gay f M TV, and then I started yeah. And
Speaker 5: then then then, you know, because Jill Scott was so
Speaker 5: pro black and the female and my Jesse's written with
Speaker 5: a y, I guess they thought I was a female.
Speaker 5: And from that point I was Jill Scott, Kelly Price,
Speaker 5: Angie Stone. I was doing all the girls, and I
Speaker 5: was like, yo, I'm a hip hop guy, you know,
Speaker 5: I want to get back to hip hop, and.
Speaker 7: You know, and.
Speaker 5: You'll said, they were like, okay, this is not what
Speaker 5: we expected. So so now you run through that thing.
Speaker 5: So when when I was, you know, writing treatments, it
Speaker 5: was a pretty girl that moved in next door to
Speaker 5: me and my and my little, you know, shitty apartment
Speaker 5: in Hollywood, and uh she you know, she had this
Speaker 5: boyfriend that was like a thug. So this was my
Speaker 5: first introduction to gang bang life, right, so she would
Speaker 5: go to work and then he would hang around the building.
Speaker 5: So sometimes I would see him and he'll throw up
Speaker 5: a side like what up, cuz, and I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't really know what that was about.
Speaker 5: And then he was and then his name was Little
Speaker 5: Half Dead, right, so I'm like this guy, this guy
Speaker 5: became my friend. Right, so now he's telling me, you know,
Speaker 5: crib Long Beach. So so Little Half Dad becames my friends.
Speaker 5: So he comes over every day because he does have
Speaker 5: a job, comes over. He's like on tour, supposed he
Speaker 5: was Snoop and Nate and all these guys. So we're
Speaker 5: rocking with him. When my cruising down Melrose, some guys
Speaker 5: look over. He's throwing crip signs. I'm like, yo, Dug,
Speaker 5: I just moved to This is not how in New York.
Speaker 5: Is not like this. But one day he brought he said, Yo,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna bring some of my friends over. And he
Speaker 5: brings Snoop Dogg and the dog to my crib. I
Speaker 5: got my television on the milk crk and he brings
Speaker 5: Snoop Dogg to my house and all Snoop Dogg walks
Speaker 5: in talks mad Ship we played PlayStation, smokes a lot
Speaker 5: of weed, beats me and fucking because he kills in
Speaker 5: all those games, Snoop. And then my whole building's in my lobby,
Speaker 5: I mean in the hallway. And then he leaves. This
Speaker 5: is this is like right after the chronicle.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is as big as it cats.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Then he leaves and I never see him again, Snoop.
Speaker 5: And then Little Half dead ends up going to prison.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So I see Snoop at the MTV Awards when I
Speaker 5: get the nomination, and he sees him, goes, yo, chess,
Speaker 5: little Half that always ask about you, man, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: And I tell Snoop, I said, man, I need to
Speaker 5: get on this urban thing again these videos. He goes,
Speaker 5: call me tomorrow, I got a video for one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty grand. Let's go now, and he put me
Speaker 5: right into that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then right after what song was that?
Speaker 3: What song was that?
Speaker 5: It was a song that MTV ended up like banning
Speaker 5: the video that I did it because you know how
Speaker 5: they put the black lines. I put like the crip
Speaker 5: band Dan.
Speaker 3: It's hardcore.
Speaker 5: It was super against you know. It was my party shot.
Speaker 5: I went super d Okay, show them you know, wait,
Speaker 5: let me ask it.
Speaker 4: So Jesse just cut cup fast forward. Give us some
Speaker 4: of the artists, especially the fans. Tell us some of
Speaker 4: the artists that you have done videos for it, because
Speaker 4: I know you've worked with everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know I worked with you know, Cameron
Speaker 5: or styles p or h. Fifty was my biggest client, right.
Speaker 5: I did twenty five videos with fifty right from the beginning.
Speaker 5: So he grew up in my neighbors so I always
Speaker 5: heard his music. That's how that happened when so he
Speaker 5: was always hot in the neighborhood. And then he got
Speaker 5: shot and everybody kind of knew the stories. And then
Speaker 5: when he signed to Interscope, I told Jimmy Ivan's nephew DJ,
Speaker 5: I said, hey, I want to do fifty cent when
Speaker 5: the project comes around, and he was like, yeah, it's
Speaker 5: probably gonna come around in like a year, and I
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, but I want to do it as
Speaker 5: he's from my neighborhood. And then a year later he
Speaker 5: kept his word, and during that time I was already
Speaker 5: excelling now doing videos that were like four hundred and
Speaker 5: five were so for me at that time, nobody the
Speaker 5: big directors want to get to touch a video for
Speaker 5: new artists like that, So it kind of gave me
Speaker 5: a path into fifty. Wangster was already out for like
Speaker 5: a year and a half.
Speaker 1: It was already first ring tone on the first phone
Speaker 1: I ever got.
Speaker 5: So I did that video, and because of the violence
Speaker 5: around fifty, we couldn't get permits to shoot in New
Speaker 5: York City. So I wrote a concept and fifty was like,
Speaker 5: whoever wrote this concept had to be from the neighborhood
Speaker 5: because the way the intricacies.
Speaker 3: The way he knew that you knew the same thing.
Speaker 5: And then I was like, look, I can make LA,
Speaker 5: because they were concerned to do his first video in LA,
Speaker 5: and I said, I can make it look like New York.
Speaker 5: Don't worry. I know this one block and as long
Speaker 5: as I shoot the right angles, it's gonna feel like
Speaker 5: we're in New York City. And we shot Wangster in LA.
Speaker 1: Such a fucking bad ass.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I want to be you, But I'll
Speaker 4: tell you I made two movies with Jesse on very
Speaker 4: limited budgets, and I will tell you Jesse is a
Speaker 4: creative motherfucker. He made the ship work. He does a
Speaker 4: complain he does a bitch. He just he's like, yo,
Speaker 4: we'll find a path forward. And that's what makes you
Speaker 4: a great director, is that you're one of those guys
Speaker 4: that can, you know, overcome really tough circumstances on a budget.
Speaker 3: So I'll give you a lot of props.
Speaker 2: I want to hear more. Let's take a short break.
Speaker 2: I just want to pick your brain all day, Jess.
Speaker 2: All right, we are back with the epic Jesse Cuerrero's.
Speaker 3: Let's keep it.
Speaker 1: Mind is blown.
Speaker 3: No, it's so funny because I made two movies with Jess.
Speaker 3: I forget how how awesome you are because I'm your boy.
Speaker 3: But then you know, I hear you talk, you know,
Speaker 3: from this, I forget the history you have, you know,
Speaker 3: in music.
Speaker 4: So what I want to know, and I think Lon
Speaker 4: are both a little oblivious to this, is that the
Speaker 4: Latin culture right now, the Hispanic music scene is what
Speaker 4: hip hop and pop music was over the last twenty years,
Speaker 4: Latin music today.
Speaker 3: These artists are the stars.
Speaker 5: Of worldwide, gigantic gigant So how's that?
Speaker 3: Because I know you know all of them. I know
Speaker 3: you do videos, I know you produce them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know for me, for me being Dominican, it
Speaker 5: was always part of my culture, you know. And when
Speaker 5: I started doing music videos, I used to complain all
Speaker 5: the time because the Land videos, I felt were just
Speaker 5: looked weak and they look cheap, you know, and it
Speaker 5: used to bother me that they didn't look like the
Speaker 5: general market videos. And then when MTV did me TRL,
Speaker 5: which was their Spanish version, they started putting like en
Speaker 5: sync videos next to like countdowns with Aventuda or the
Speaker 5: Land groups. We see the indel against like a Destiny's child,
Speaker 5: and then you're like, whoa. You can see sort of
Speaker 5: the difference in the level of the videos. So I
Speaker 5: was telling a friend of minees complaining, and he said,
Speaker 5: you know what, you can continue to complain and you
Speaker 5: could be part of the change, but you got to
Speaker 5: make that decision. So I was like, man, I'm about
Speaker 5: to take a Picatla my mother and Mercedes in a
Speaker 5: bowl on it and I inside my rims with twenty six.
Speaker 5: I was killing the gang. I was like, time to
Speaker 5: bring the chains back. But I did. I. You know,
Speaker 5: I took a step back and I said, you know what,
Speaker 5: I felt that they weren't getting the respect and and
Speaker 5: the sort of the at least the visuals that they
Speaker 5: deserved because they were superstars in my eyes. So I
Speaker 5: sort of ingratiated myself in the Latin culture. When Daddy
Speaker 5: Yankee got signed to Interscope, he was the first artist
Speaker 5: I have a general, a general market record deal. Someone
Speaker 5: that Interscope said, hey, you know, Jesse's Dominican, and they
Speaker 5: put me on the phone with Yankee, and then I
Speaker 5: did two videos for him, a song called Gangsters on
Speaker 5: with Snoop and then the song called Rompe, which was
Speaker 5: one of his like big songs that broke into the
Speaker 5: American market. And then from that on that moment, a
Speaker 5: lot of the Latin artists started knowing that I was Dominicans,
Speaker 5: so they were calling me like, hey, I'm Dominican too,
Speaker 5: can you do me this solid and blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: And then I started just you know what, I figured
Speaker 5: out a way for a lesser budget to create a
Speaker 5: bigger a big image, and then I just focused on
Speaker 5: my energy and that and as I saw the decline
Speaker 5: in music videos on the American side, I saw that
Speaker 5: on the land side they were going up little by little,
Speaker 5: and I was like, you know what, most these kids
Speaker 5: live in countries where the record sales are not really
Speaker 5: being counted or they're selling out arenas, like but you know,
Speaker 5: it's like they live in poor countries where their bootlegging
Speaker 5: your song, so nobody's going to the store and buying
Speaker 5: your song. The tours, but the tours are gigantic, right,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Fifty thousand seas you told me the other day.
Speaker 5: I did a movie on Ken named Maluma for YouTube,
Speaker 5: and we shot the main concert of his tour in
Speaker 5: Israel in Tel Aviv, thirty thousand people himself, not another acts.
Speaker 5: It was no, like fifty guys hit by himself, thirty
Speaker 5: thousand people in singing Spanish songs.
Speaker 3: That's that's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It is a beautiful mind that and that's how it
Speaker 1: is all over.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean these artists, I mean are opening
Speaker 4: in the US too. I mean, I mean that crushed
Speaker 4: the New Year's Eve. Lalla and I a year ago,
Speaker 4: we're in Miami at at the Fountain, Blue Daga, Grutman, had.
Speaker 3: Jave, Elvin, Jay Belden.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, it's it's a phenomenon, and I think
Speaker 4: it's just amazing that you're on the forefront of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting because I think what happened a streamers
Speaker 5: have connected everyone is so because it's streaming and because
Speaker 5: of YouTube and things like that, now everybody is able
Speaker 5: to view the same thing. So the Spanish prob was
Speaker 5: always there, except I was the guy going telling people like, yo,
Speaker 5: these kids are big, or telling fifty yo, these kids
Speaker 5: are big. You should do a song with them. They
Speaker 5: sold that Madison Square Garden and he'd be like, didn't
Speaker 5: sell out the garden. Then ten minutes later he'd like, Yo,
Speaker 5: they sold that Man Guarden. I'm like, yes they did.
Speaker 5: And four Knights at Staples and Miami Arena and they're
Speaker 5: crushing it, Like I just went and did the Forum.
Speaker 5: Four nights at the Forum. Nobody knows about it because
Speaker 5: it's like their call audience is wait, who was it?
Speaker 5: A group called?
Speaker 7: You know how?
Speaker 3: I know that because Frankie del got on my buddy.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I saw him.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, if I miss a concert.
Speaker 4: Like I love, I love to go and hang out
Speaker 4: and learn, right, And you're a laws always like you
Speaker 4: know knows what's up with music.
Speaker 3: I'm a little older, so it takes.
Speaker 5: Me a little longer. Male, who's my friend? Who's ahead
Speaker 5: of that? Group. It's like he returned to go back
Speaker 5: on tour with his group, but he did a solo show.
Speaker 5: Like he's like the Justin bieber I mean, not the
Speaker 5: Justin Timberlake of like the insane of that group.
Speaker 3: Okay, right, so he just.
Speaker 5: Did MetLife seventy thousand people.
Speaker 1: That is insane to me.
Speaker 3: Seventy thousand people, this is insane.
Speaker 5: He did two nights at Yankee Stadium a couple of years.
Speaker 5: I'm on by himself. So what I'm saying is that
Speaker 5: the tour potential of the artist. So since I came
Speaker 5: up in the world where Tupac and I saw those
Speaker 5: guys become movie stars, and I saw the music matched
Speaker 5: the content, I decided to focus on my energy because
Speaker 5: I'm like, the music was getting so big. In the Landmark,
Speaker 5: they have no content, No one movie, not one TV show,
Speaker 5: nothing that goes against the level.
Speaker 4: You were really there at the beginning. And that's why here,
Speaker 4: because I see you all over the world. I see
Speaker 4: you on jets Jesse, I see you falling out with
Speaker 4: all the artists.
Speaker 3: I see a backstage with thirty like what is going on?
Speaker 4: So now that's interesting, I mean because I always see
Speaker 4: you at the forefront of music and film and television.
Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 2: Right now we have him today with his daughter and
Speaker 2: he's playing dad and all that stuff kind of goes
Speaker 2: out the window and you're just focused on taking care
Speaker 2: of the baby.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's the most important thing to me right now.
Speaker 4: I give a lot of respect because being you know,
Speaker 4: because you know you're you're you're a single dad, you know,
Speaker 4: and we're girl dads, girl dads.
Speaker 3: That's a Jesse and I girl dad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're like, we're both we like we act like
Speaker 3: we try to act like we're a little hard.
Speaker 4: It's tough in our business. And then our girls come
Speaker 4: around and it's like we we I see us.
Speaker 3: We're both like butter. We melt like butter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're woz is when it comes to our children.
Speaker 4: So Tim's a girl dad too.
Speaker 1: Tell us about your part on Soul Plane.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so soul Playing. Soul Playing happened because I shot.
Speaker 5: I got into this program my Fox Searchlight called a
Speaker 5: search Lab, and they take twenty direct and everybody wrote
Speaker 5: and directed a short film. Out of the twenty directors,
Speaker 5: the three of us made Sundance and I made Sundance
Speaker 5: and was like an urban Latin comedy that I shot
Speaker 5: in my neighborhood about a young kid who like you know,
Speaker 5: sleeps with a girl and then catches something and it's
Speaker 5: like it's trip to the clinic. It was super crazy
Speaker 5: and funny because they used to be this clinic in
Speaker 5: my neighbor and we used to just make fun of
Speaker 5: who came in and out of it. So so anyway, yeah,
Speaker 5: so so basically when I did that, you know, they
Speaker 5: my agents, Charles King and the people Willie Morris started
Speaker 5: understanding that I was like good at comedy. I had
Speaker 5: an idea that was about like an urban airline, and
Speaker 5: then they told me, hey, there's a script at MGM
Speaker 5: called soul Plane. You should probably go take a meeting
Speaker 5: on it. I took a meeting on it. During that time,
Speaker 5: I flew to Brazil with Snoop to do a video
Speaker 5: called Beautiful that Chris Robinson director. So we all went
Speaker 5: to Beauty onto Brazil together, Me, Snoop, Farrell, Chris Robinson
Speaker 5: and when we were there and like you know, weed session,
Speaker 5: Snoop said, he turned to me and goes, yo, I
Speaker 5: want to fly the plane.
Speaker 3: Man. Stop.
Speaker 5: He was like I want to fly the plane that story.
Speaker 5: I was like, Steve, you know you don't really fly
Speaker 5: the plane though, but he was like, yo, man, I
Speaker 5: want to fly the plane. And when I went back
Speaker 5: to the studio was ready for older guy. They were like, oh,
Speaker 5: we don't know if he can be funny. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 5: Snoop is the fun that's Amazing'll show you picture from
Speaker 5: him online when he looks like like super hard and
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, Snooper is a thug, but he's also
Speaker 5: funny onniest guy. So I brought the studio execus to
Speaker 5: Snoop's house to meet him and then that was it
Speaker 5: to the church now his house and his family. He
Speaker 5: has another place to callse the church, so they got
Speaker 5: there's like twenty crips in there. They searched him on
Speaker 5: the way and they thought it was the coolest shit ever.
Speaker 5: Gym was the coolest. Is amazing was Snoop? After that
Speaker 5: they were like, he could be the pilot. Sorry, hold
Speaker 5: on and soul Plane. You had a little actor in
Speaker 5: that movie. It became somewhat of a superstar named Kevin Hart.
Speaker 5: Kevin Hart, and you put Kevin Hart in this movie.
Speaker 3: How Big is his role.
Speaker 5: He was the star of the Oh, he was a star.
Speaker 5: Kevin was the star of the movie. Yeah, it's his movie.
Speaker 5: He's a star, he's the lead.
Speaker 3: So Jesse, you were in there early.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so faverite goddess.
Speaker 3: First start, you had everybody.
Speaker 1: I wrote it.
Speaker 5: I wrote it. You know, I wrote a Spanish I
Speaker 5: needed to write some Spanish characters because I felt there
Speaker 5: were no lanin characters. So I wrote a couple of
Speaker 5: characters in the studio only liked, of course, the Spanish
Speaker 5: girl and she and she had one line and when
Speaker 5: they were doing the casting, they said, what are you thinking?
Speaker 5: And I knew her from Latin America, so I said,
Speaker 5: you know, I want like a Sophia guy of type.
Speaker 5: And then she walked in the room and I was like, Sophia,
Speaker 5: it's one line. I said, you want to do this movie,
Speaker 5: I'll write you in the whole thing. And I just
Speaker 5: kept rewriting. Wow, became one of the stars.
Speaker 3: All right, So hold on, I just want to say something.
Speaker 4: First of all, not only have you discovered some of
Speaker 4: the biggest artists, some of the biggest musicians, and then
Speaker 4: you've made your movie with Kevin Hart and Sofia Vigaro, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, what what a visionary for casting and
Speaker 4: to be your friend and made movies with you.
Speaker 3: I'm very honored to have had you on this podcast
Speaker 3: and long it doesn't really know you now you do?
Speaker 2: No now, my little starstruck I all that stuff before
Speaker 2: you see this is you know, Timbo.
Speaker 1: Good job on slacking with the bio.
Speaker 3: Tim has become like a real producer backyard. I want
Speaker 3: to say this is probably the first.
Speaker 4: This is probably one of the first podcasts in the
Speaker 4: history of podcast that's been done on a yacht, and
Speaker 4: I think it's the.
Speaker 3: Best one because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about like his days with Tupac and
Speaker 2: like how you put Kevin Hart.
Speaker 3: We could go on for like three hours so much.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys having on the podcast and the yacht.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: But hi there, Lala and Randall.
Speaker 9: I wanted to say your podcast is a highlight of
Speaker 9: the podcast that I listened to weekly, and I think
Speaker 9: the dynamics between the two of you is extremely genuine
Speaker 9: and endearing.
Speaker 10: The best part.
Speaker 9: About the podcast is giving us insight into what I.
Speaker 10: Think is the best part of your relationship, and you
Speaker 10: two seem to be genuine fans of each other. You
Speaker 10: really are fans of each other, and you're really friends,
Speaker 10: and being friends to root for each other who also
Speaker 10: love one another is really the best way to go
Speaker 10: in this world, I think, with your partners. So all
Speaker 10: the very best, all love, thanks.
Speaker 1: So much, thank you, my loves. To everyone who has
Speaker 1: already left us epic messages.
Speaker 3: And keep them coming because we love hearing from you.
Speaker 4: Guys.
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