1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're wondering 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: if we too can get free flights on Delta if 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: we just wear WNBA gear and stand up real straight. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: On today's show, we're going to talk with Indie star 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: reporter Chloe Peterson about the Indiana fevers ascension and Caitlin 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Clark's continued improvement and record breaking throughout the summer, plus 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: more WNBAT in a review that doubles as a backsaving recommendation. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this welcome back slices. 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Here is what you need to know today. Some exciting 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: news yesterday, the WNBA announced that Delta Airlines is now 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: the official airline partner of the league. The multi year 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: partnership is in addition to Delta's existing charter program for 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five seasons, though 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: charter flights for the long term are still up in 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: the air. Through the expanded agreement, Delta now carries all 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: twelve teams throughout the regular season and the playoffs. Some 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: more w news in Vegas on Sunday night, after we 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: finished recording, Becky Hammond made some interesting postgame comments. Okay, 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: so the Aces beat the Los Angeles Sparks. On the 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Sparks now is Deerica Hamby, former Aces player, who is 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: currently suing the WNBA and the Aces organization on claims 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: of discrimination and retaliation in federal court. So after the game, 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: Becky Hammond responded to a question from a reporter about 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: her integrity as a coach and Dereka Hamby. 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Here's a little of what she had to say. Here's 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: some facts. 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: I've been in either the WNBA or the NBA for 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: now twenty five years. 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: I've never had an HR complaint. Never, not once. 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: I still didn't actually because Dereka didn't file any she 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: didn't file with the players Union, she didn't file with 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: the WNBA. 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: Those are facts. 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: It's also factual that nobody made a call about trading 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: her until Atlanta called us in January. That's a fact, okay, 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: And so to me, I mean, there's it just didn't happen. 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: I'm sorry the bullying. I spoke with her every day. 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: If she wanted to practice, she practiced. If she didn't, 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: she didn't over the top care, actually over the top care. 40 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: That's the facts. 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: Also, it's a day that ends in why so you 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: know what that means Angel Reese has broken another record. 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Yesterday we told you about how Rees broke the Chicago 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Skis franchise record for most offensive rebounds in a single season, 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: while on Sunday, the twenty two year old rookie recorded 46 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: her twentieth double double in her twenty seventh game, becoming 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: the fastest in WNBA history to reach twenty double doubles. 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: In soccer, the USL Super League made its debut over 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: the weekend and all three matchups were sold out. Carolina 50 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Asset FC versus DC Power FC, Spokane Zephyr FC versus 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale United FC, and Tampa Bay Sun FC versus 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: Dallas Trinity FC. If you remember from a previous show, 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: the USLU League. 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: Is that brand new eight team pro league. 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: It aligns with the international soccer calendar, so just started 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: up this month and it's sanctioned by the US Soccer 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Federation on equal footing to the NWSL as the highest 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: level of pro play in the US, so an option 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: for players to play in in addition to the NWSL 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: here in. 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: The States at the pro level. 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: Also in soccer, the inaugural edition of the konkakaff W 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: Champions Cup began last week. The international competition allows NWSL 64 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: teams to play the best clubs from North America, Central 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: America and the Caribbean and will crown a regional women's 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: club champion. The Champions Cup final will take place in 67 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: May twenty twenty five. This tournament is distinct from the 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: NWSL times Lega Mxfeminial Summer Cup, which will hold its 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: final in October. If you're as confused as we are, 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: don't worry. We're going to talk about all the different 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: NWSL involvement on another show on the Diamond. Athletes Unlimited 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: Pro Softball is entering the last week of the season. 73 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: The league is composed of teams that are drafted by 74 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: captains each week and it uses this special scoring system 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: designed to reward points for both team and individual performance. 76 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: So outfielder Amanda Lawrence has the most points heading into 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: Week five, sitting two hundred and thirty points ahead of 78 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: pitcher Georgina Cork and two hundred and thirty six points 79 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: ahead of pitcher Alicio Ocasio. Last year, pitcher Odyssey Alexander 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: won it all with a total score of nineteen hundred 81 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: and ninety four points. And let's close the Books on 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Athletes Unlimited Pro Lacrosse, which wrapped up their season last week. 83 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: In an exciting finale, Attacker sam Apuzo was finally crowned 84 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: champ after finishing the top three for three straight seasons 85 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: of play. 86 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: Finally a champ. 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: Apuzo, who also serves as an assistant coach at Boston 88 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: College and is one of the most decorated athletes in 89 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: the school's history, scored three goals in her final game 90 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: and secured the top spot on the leaderboard with an assist. 91 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: Also something to look forward to four years from now, 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: lacrosse will be one of the new sports contested at 93 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: the LA Olympics in. 94 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty eight. 95 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: So Apuso has previously represented Team USA in international competition, 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: helping the US win gold at the twenty twenty two 97 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: World Championship. I'm guessing she's got her eyes set on 98 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Volleyball League One Volleyball abbreviated as l OVB 99 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: but pronounced like Love announced that single match tickets are 100 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: live and available for purchase now. Love Volleyball begins its 101 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: first season in January, with preseason getting started in November. 102 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: We got to take a quick break, but when we 103 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: come back. We've got a fever and the only prescription 104 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: is Indie Star reporter Chloe Peterson it's coming up. 105 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: Next joining us now. 106 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: She writes about the Indiana Fever, IU women's basketball and 107 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: other sports for The Indie Star. She's a graduate of 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: the University of Iowa, where she was the sports editor 109 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: for the Daily Iowen, the student newspaper there. She rescued 110 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: her cat from a shelter where he was named Davy Jones. 111 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: She dropped the Jones, I. 112 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Presumed because she's never heard of The Monkeys, and then 113 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: me said, wait, isn't Davy Jones from SpongeBob? And I 114 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: was reminded yet again that I am old. As also 115 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: fun fact about me, I once went to dinner with 116 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Mickey Dolan's from The Monkeys. 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: Young people google him. 118 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: It was a nice dinner, It wasn't creepy at all, 119 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: and he didn't even try to hit on me. All right, 120 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: Chloe Peterson, that's who we're talking to. 121 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: Chloe. I still cannot get. 122 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: Over the fact that you guys think Davy Jones' reference 123 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: is just about SpongeBob. 124 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: I've never felt older in my life. 125 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: I want to talk about University of Iowa because you 126 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: worked for the Daily Iowan. You covered Caitlin Clark, and 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: you have been for quite some time, well before you 128 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: even got to. 129 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: This job with the Fever. So we're with the indie 130 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Star covering the Fever. 131 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty, you actually wrote a story about 132 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark headline freshman. Caitlin Clark poised to make immediate impact. 133 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: So tell us what it was like watching her as 134 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: a freshman and then develop into the player she became 135 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: at Iowa. 136 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was interesting you mentioned that story. I don't 137 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: even know if I remember writing that. It was very 138 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: long ago, but I kind of came on to sports 139 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: my freshman year at Iowa, so I guess I was 140 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 4: a year ahead. So I started Iowa the year before 141 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: Caitlin declared, and I remember when she committed. I was 142 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 4: working at the TV station DV at the time, and 143 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: I was like, does this really matter that much for 144 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 4: like Iowa women's basketball, and our sports director at the 145 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: time she was like, this is probably the biggest thing 146 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: that could have ever happened for Iowa. And I then 147 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: switched over to writing and I started covering the women's 148 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: basketball team and I was like, Wow, this is actually 149 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: a really big deal. 150 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's. 151 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: Been interesting to kind of see it come on for 152 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: the three years I covered her at Iowa because the 153 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: first year was COVID, so we had a bunch of 154 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: cardboard cutouts in the stands with us and there were 155 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: like maybe two hundred fans that were all like family, 156 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: So we didn't really get any of that fan stuff 157 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: until she started kind of making a name for herself, 158 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: and I think it was her sophomore year where she 159 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: kind of started making more national headlines than just kind 160 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: of Iowa Midwest. So it's been really interesting to see 161 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: that kind of come from COVID and just you know, 162 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: people from Iowa really knowing about her a lot to 163 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: her becoming just like a national phenomenon. 164 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting thing now to see the coverage 165 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: of her at the Fever because of what it's done 166 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: for the team as a whole. You are now a 167 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: beat reporter for the team, which I don't think even 168 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: existed before you took over. Do you know if there 169 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: was a Fever beat reporter at the Indie Star before 170 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: you took the gig? 171 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: There was not. 172 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: They used interns before I came along and that checks us. 173 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: It was funny because I was supposed to be an 174 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: intern when I first started back in May of twenty 175 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: twenty three. I was originally going to be a summer intern, 176 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 4: but then they had an entry level job open up 177 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: and I kind of reached out to my editors and 178 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: I was like, hey, you know is can I have 179 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: this job? 180 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: And a step yeah. 181 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: Well, so what's cool about it is, you know, obviously 182 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: you were a year ahead of Caitlin in getting to Indy, 183 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: so you covered the team for a season before she 184 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: arrived and didn't even know that you'd get this through 185 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: line of covering her from college through the pro. 186 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: So tell me about what it was like to learn 187 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: that she was. 188 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Indeed declaring for the WNBA Draft and was going to 189 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: go to the Fever and you would get the chance 190 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: to keep covering her. 191 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: It was interesting because we've been talking about it kind 192 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: of at Indie Star for a while. With the way 193 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 4: the Fever season had been going, they weren't going to 194 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 4: make the playoffs. We knew last year, so they had 195 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: a draft lottery party in December as well, and it 196 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 4: was kind of everybody just screamed when they got the 197 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: number one pick because they knew who it possibly could be. 198 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: And you know, using my journalistic ways back when we 199 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: could still look at Twitter likes and went to look 200 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: at the Twitter likes that she had, and there were 201 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: multiple of her like, you know, with a fever jersey 202 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: on being on the fever, and I was like, you 203 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: know what, she might come here. Yeah, And eventually a 204 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 4: couple months later she declared, and I was like, well, 205 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: this is actually going to become a big thing. 206 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: So how big of a difference was that first year 207 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: for you covering the Fever without Kitlin to this season. 208 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of been a stark difference. I'm 209 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: traveling to Fever games now, so I've been to all 210 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 4: of their away games. I'm going to go to all 211 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: of the rest of them. They only have five left, thankfully, 212 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: But last year I didn't travel to any of their 213 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: away games. At some points they would have me do 214 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: you know, high school football at the end of the 215 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: season instead of Fever games, which kind of at that 216 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: point they were mostly out of the playoffs already anyway, 217 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: but that probably wouldn't even be thought of. 218 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: This season. 219 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been surprisingly sticky trying to talk about Kaitlyn's 220 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: rookie season because of the culture wars and the whole 221 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: Caitlyn versus Angel narratives that began near the end of 222 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: their college careers and have carried through the start of 223 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: their w seasons and careers. How have you navigated that 224 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: in your coverage? Because she has brought a ton of eyeball. 225 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: She is a massive draw, but there's also some pushback 226 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: on her being made to seem like a savior to 227 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: a league that was already coming up. 228 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: The ways I've been kind of trying to do that 229 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: is to make sure like I'm not a Caitlin Clark 230 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: Beat reporter, I'm the Indiana Fever Beat report. So you 231 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: still talk about Eliah Boston, who was the twenty twenty 232 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: three number one pick. Still talk about Kelsey Mitchell, who 233 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: was their leading scorer for a while this season, still 234 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 4: with Caitlin on the team, Like all of them have 235 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 4: obviously very meaningful contributions, and it's kind of a disservice 236 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: to not talk about them just because Caitlin's on the 237 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: team and Caitln's the one making the national headlines. 238 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Have you seen those conversations changing as the season has 239 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: gone on. Or people still stuck on the you're not 240 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: covering her enough, or you're covering her too much, Like 241 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine your mentions on social media when 242 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: you say anything about her. 243 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of been either way. Like sometimes people 244 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: are like, there are other people on the team, you 245 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: talk about them, and other ones are just like, oh, 246 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: what about what Caitlin did? I remember I messed up 247 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: a story the other day that I said Caitlin got 248 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: twenty seven points instead of twenty nine in my story, 249 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: and someone emailed me and they're like, you need better 250 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 4: attention to detail. If you don't do that, you'll be 251 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: looking for a job back in Iowa. And I was like, 252 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: is that supposed to be a threat. 253 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: I love that they did their intel for their trolling. 254 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 2: I love that. 255 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, some people have understandably been kind of frustrated 256 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: that it took Caitlin Clark to attract this much attention 257 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: to the league when it's featured so many great players, 258 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: many of them black, many of the members of the 259 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: LGBTQI plus community, and earlier this summer, Clark was actually 260 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: asked about her name being weaponized by people looking to 261 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: push certain agendas. Do you have a sense of how 262 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: aware she is about being used to push narratives that way. 263 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she's kind of she's pretty aware, but 264 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: she's also kind of trying to stay out of it. 265 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: As much as she can. 266 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: I would think she seems to be the type of 267 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: person that, you know, she likes to play basketball, as 268 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: she said, she likes to She was at the Colts 269 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: game the other night, their preseason game. She likes to 270 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: go watch other games. She likes to go to Pacers 271 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: games when they'll be in season. Like, she doesn't seem 272 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: to try and talk about different things, even on social media. 273 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: Everything she really talks about is basketball. When I know 274 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: a lot of other people or a lot of other 275 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 4: WNBA players say, you know, look to talk about other things, 276 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 4: but that's just not what Caven wants to do. But 277 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: it seems like she's aware of what's been going on, 278 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: and she obviously spoke out against it when she was 279 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: asked a month or two ago now about like her 280 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: name being weaponized, and she kind of made it clear 281 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: it wasn't something she approved of. 282 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like she's so young and is so 284 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: obsessed with basketball and being great and sports that it's 285 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: a lot to ask for her to also have nuanced 286 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: adult points of view on certain things. At the same time, 287 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: I think that's a skill she's going to have to 288 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: learn if she continues to be a focal point for 289 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: those conversations, because there are so many isms that intersect 290 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: with women's sports in particular and especially the w that eventually, 291 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: if she wants to say she doesn't see it, or 292 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: that she just cares about basketball, it will end up 293 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: reading as a tacit support of her being used in 294 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: that way, even if that might be unfair, that's just 295 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: kind of the way the world works. So it'll be 296 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: interesting to see as she matures and has more time 297 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: to focus on everything, not just the basketball and not 298 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: just adjusting to a new league, how she decides to 299 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: respond to that stuff. Can you put what we've seen 300 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: from her in context on the basketball court this year? 301 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: The records being broken, you know, are there other records 302 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: that are within reach before the end of the season 303 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: that she's now got her site set on. It's been 304 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: pretty incredible to watch her develop so quickly from the 305 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: start of the season to what she looks like now. 306 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like she never like sets her site 307 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: specifically on any record. I remember last night against the Storms, 308 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: she broke the rookie records. She got two hundred and 309 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: twenty five assists, which broke the WNBA rookie record for 310 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: assists in a season, and she kind of barely even 311 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: talked about it, even when she was directly asked, and 312 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: she just said she didn't expect to be leading the 313 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: league in assists, especially as a rookie. But one record 314 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: she could break really is the overall WNBA assists record, 315 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: because that one is three hundred and sixteen I believe, 316 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: and I did the math on it yesterday, and she 317 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: would need to average seven point five assists per game 318 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 4: for the rest of the season, and she's averaging I 319 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: think eight point two right now. So it's very in 320 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: reach for her, whether you know she kind of makes 321 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: it a point to try and do that or not, 322 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: we'll see. 323 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: Now we've got something. We should have a ticker on 324 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: our show as she nears that record. That's so cool. 325 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Fever as a team. 326 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Sunday game against the Storm, a career 327 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: high for Lexi Hall, Liliah Boston had nine points, fifteen boards. 328 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: They beat a very good Storm team, and India has 329 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: looked strong in the couple games after the Olympic break. 330 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: How much does it feel like that rest and time 331 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: to continue jelling together help them out. 332 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Olympic break was probably a turning 333 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: point for them, and it probably ended up being good 334 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: that Caitlin and you know, Leah Boston who was in 335 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: contention for the Olympic team as well, but kind of 336 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: neither of them ended up being on the team because 337 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: they got time to get rest and it was kind 338 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: of crucial, especially for Caitlan because she hadn't had time 339 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: off since like probably October of last year, so she 340 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: finally got a little bit of time off, a little 341 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: bit of time to rest, and then they had three 342 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: weeks just to work on defense, work on different offensive sets, 343 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: and kind of just gel as a team with eleven 344 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: of their twelve players for those weeks of practice. So 345 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: I think that's really showing now, especially beating the Mercury 346 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: who had three Olympians who were less than a week 347 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: out of being in Paris, and then the Storm as well, 348 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: who are a very veteran and good team. 349 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 350 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a cute moment caught in that game 351 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: on the micd up segment with Caitlin hyping up Aliyah 352 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: before the game started. 353 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: We'll take a listen to it here. Really amazing too. 354 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: So after the game, Aaliyah actually pointed out that this 355 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: is a typical pregame ritual for the two of them. 356 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: I would love for you to take us behind the 357 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: scenes for their relationship. What do you see from them 358 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: in practice before and after games? How quick has this 359 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: duo that's obviously very good on the court become sort 360 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: of tight beyond that in the relationship they have together. 361 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 4: I think they've bonded really over kind of similar experiences. 362 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: Alea was able to give her advice of being the 363 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 4: number one pick and the expectations that come with them, 364 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: the expectations of being good right away, and she really 365 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 4: helped Caitlin through. You know, when they were struggling at 366 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: the beginning of the season. It wasn't obviously what Caitlin 367 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 4: was expecting or hoping for. So yeah, it wasn't what 368 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: she was hoping for because obviously with all the success 369 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 4: she had at Iowa. It was kind of the same 370 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: thing with Aliah. Last year. Aliah lost like five or 371 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: six games her entire four year South Carolina career that 372 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: she lost twenty seven in her first year as a 373 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: Fever player, So I think they really bonded over helping 374 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 4: each other manage expectations, especially as number one picks, and 375 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: Olio will also try to help Caitlin kind of manage 376 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: her emotions as well. Sometimes when Kitlyn, you know, she 377 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 4: always is very passionate, she gets a little bit hot. 378 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: That's one of the things that I think Oli is 379 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 4: good at kind of helping her calm down as well. 380 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: Definitely you could tell there's a calming presence there before 381 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: we let you go. 382 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: What does Indy need to fix? 383 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Do add the trade deadline, improve on to get a 384 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: playoff spot and potentially upset some higher seated teams come 385 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: playoff time. 386 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: So I don't know if the Fever are going to 387 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: make any trades this season, but I think what they 388 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: really need to do, just kind of as a unit 389 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: themselves is really locked down on defense. They were kind 390 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: of a defensive liability last year. I think they were 391 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: last in the league in defensive efficiency, and they're improving 392 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: a little bit this year, but if they could really 393 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: kind of lock down, kind of like they with the Storm, 394 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 4: a very good team then that can help them secure 395 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: a playoff spot. 396 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we certainly have seen them evolve offensively. That defensive 397 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: side needs to keep up with what we're seeing on 398 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: the offensive side. 399 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: Chloe, thanks so much for making time for us and 400 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: continue to enjoy the season. 401 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. 402 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Chloe for hopping on with us. 403 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: If you want to follow her on social media, she's 404 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: on Twitter or Extra, whatever the hell you're calling it 405 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: these days. At Chloe Peterson sixty seven, we got to 406 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: take another break when we come back. We're shipping Bam 407 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: out of Bayo and Asia Wilson, which means we're going 408 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: to need a celebrity couple name. 409 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: It's coming up next. 410 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back, my little orange slices. We love that you're listening, 411 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: but we want you to get in the game every 412 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: day too. So here's our good game play of the day, 413 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Aces, Asia Wilson and the MNBA Miami 414 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: Heats Spam out of Bio. We're spotted together in Paris 415 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: a few times, including enjoying a special handshake after Asia's 416 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: gold medal win, and now he's commenting on social media 417 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: about her noticeably wrinkled white t shirt he posted. Do 418 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: people still iron their clothes or did it stop after COVID? 419 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: Have they officially announced that they're dating. No, but that's 420 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: not stopping us. 421 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: We're all in on this super tall, super talented couple, 422 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: and now we need to give them a name to 423 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: the ship. 424 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: Name Generator. 425 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: Bejia am the Mejia Asia Bio. 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