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Speaker 1: This is Gavin Newsom, and these are your questions.

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Speaker 2: You and New York Governor Kathy Hochel have been considering

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Speaker 2: redistricting in your blue states in order to pick up

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Speaker 2: seats in the twenty twenty six midterms because of what's

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Speaker 2: been happening in Texas. Have you spoken to Governor Hokele

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Speaker 2: and is there a national plan for redistricting that the

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Speaker 2: DNC has been a part of.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate the question. It is the existential question

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Speaker 1: of our time. What do I mean by that? If

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Speaker 1: Donald Trumpe wants to rig the system, he wants to

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Speaker 1: change the game because he can't win the game by

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Speaker 1: playing by the traditional rules, period full stop. He made

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Speaker 1: a phone call, just like he made a phone call

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Speaker 1: in Georgia after he lost the election, after he tried

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Speaker 1: to destroy our democracy lighted on fire after January sixth

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Speaker 1: as he tried to steal the election, and he asked

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Speaker 1: for twelve thousand votes from the Secretary of State in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: He is now asking governors like Greg Abbott who are complicit.

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Speaker 1: He knew Greg Abbot would say yes, sir, and what

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Speaker 1: more can I do for you? Says I need five

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Speaker 1: seats in fact he said on National TV this week.

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Speaker 1: He said he's entitled to five seats because he won

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Speaker 1: the election by such a large margin in Texas that

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Speaker 1: they're now his seats. Make no votes about it. This

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Speaker 1: is next distential moment as it relates to the core

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Speaker 1: principles of our founding fathers. They are trying to change

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Speaker 1: the rules because they cannot win by the traditional rules

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Speaker 1: and the traditional game. Donald Trump knows who will lose

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Speaker 1: the election and into facto, his presidency ends in eighteen months.

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Speaker 1: Sure he'll be fire and fury and he'll be playing

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Speaker 1: on true's social but will finally have a speaker. Jeffries.

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Speaker 1: We will finally have a system that the founding fathers

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Speaker 1: design of checks and balances and oversight. And he knows

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Speaker 1: that it's over in less than eighteen months. So if

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Speaker 1: we want to allow that to happen, I guess California,

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Speaker 1: New York, Gady Hoko and other state governors can roll

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Speaker 1: over and act holler than now and say, well, we

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Speaker 1: really believe in independent redistrict and we're against quote unquote

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Speaker 1: jerrymandering these districts, which is another fancy way of saying

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Speaker 1: picking our voters as opposed to voters picking them by

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Speaker 1: changing the maps of who can vote and where they

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Speaker 1: can vote. And in California, we choose to do the opposite.

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Speaker 1: We choose to fight fire with fire. We choose to

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Speaker 1: stand up. We choose to support the principles of our

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Speaker 1: founding fathers. We choose to support you, all of you,

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Speaker 1: so you're can have a voice and choice going forward.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is trying to deconstruct America. It's a serious moment.

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Speaker 1: In all of the distractions, nothing is more important than this.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to rig the games how elections are done

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Speaker 1: mid census, and so California is going to step up.

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Speaker 1: They're talking about five seats in Texas. We will take

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Speaker 1: those five seats in California. We have an independent redistricting

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Speaker 1: commission that should be a national model. I support a

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Speaker 1: national model for independent redistricting. I'm not for Jerry mannering

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Speaker 1: in blue states anymore than I am for red states.

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Speaker 1: But this is a new moment in American history. The

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Speaker 1: facts are new. He's rigging the game. So we have

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Speaker 1: to fight fire with fire, and that's what we choose

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Speaker 1: to do in California, and I hope other governors do

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Speaker 1: the same. Blue state governors. They're going to export this

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Speaker 1: as well. We just heard JD. Vance is being sent

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Speaker 1: by Donald Trump into Indiana to get them to rig

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Speaker 1: the Indiana ballot. Same thing in Florida with DeSantis. But California,

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Speaker 1: we punch above our weight. Remember with size of twenty

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Speaker 1: one state populations combined. So we can do the five seats,

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Speaker 1: and we could take other seats that are very competitive.

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Speaker 1: There are us up and through the gerrymannering process that

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Speaker 1: is well established in these red states, we can make

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Speaker 1: those easier districts for a Democratic party. This should not

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Speaker 1: be the model for the country, but it's the new reality.

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Speaker 1: And so as a consequence, we have to act anew

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Speaker 1: and we have to, as Lincoln said, disenthrall ourselves with

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Speaker 1: the way things have been done in the past. And

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Speaker 1: so we're asking the legislature will require two thirds of

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Speaker 1: our legislature put this on the ballot. We're hoping it

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Speaker 1: gets on the ballot on the November fourth election. We're

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Speaker 1: going to do it in a transparent way by putting

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Speaker 1: the maps on the ballot, so the voters will know

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Speaker 1: what they're doing, and we'll do it for a temporary

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Speaker 1: period of time for the twenty six, twenty eight, and

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Speaker 1: thirty ballots congressional ballots only. We'll keep our independent redistrict

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Speaker 1: and commission and we'll revert back to our original form

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Speaker 1: once this threat has passed, and will do so only

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Speaker 1: if triggered by the actions in Texas. They drew first blood.

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Speaker 1: We will fight fire with fire. We will preserve and

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Speaker 1: protect our democracy and all that is at stake in

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Speaker 1: this country. And we're going to punch this bully right

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Speaker 1: back in the mouth, and we're going to save our democracy.

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Speaker 2: After last week's job report, President Trump said he thought

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Speaker 2: the numbers were wrong. After that, Trump fired the head

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Speaker 2: of the Bureau of Labor and Statistics. How concerned should

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Speaker 2: we be that the president is firing people who report

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Speaker 2: information he doesn't like. And shouldn't the business community be

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Speaker 2: standing up against this?

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Speaker 1: Well, the Business meeting should certainly be standing up. But

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Speaker 1: let's also put this in perspective. The economy is slowing down.

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Speaker 1: The impact of Donald Trump's tariffs taxes on American consumers

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Speaker 1: is starting be felt. We're not creating the jobs like

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Speaker 1: we created during the Biden administration. It's Trump's policies that

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Speaker 1: have slowed the growth and as a consequence, now a

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Speaker 1: lot of folks are concerned that not only is unemployment rising,

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Speaker 1: but we're seeing price pressures once again, inflation starting to

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Speaker 1: creep back up, and the word stagflation is coming back

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Speaker 1: in to the conversation. So that's number one. And as

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Speaker 1: a consequence of that, Donald Trump now wants to kill

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Speaker 1: the messenger, wants to fire the person that puts this

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Speaker 1: information together with a team of people in a nonpartisan,

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Speaker 1: a political way, and that should scare the hell out

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Speaker 1: of everybody. That's what authoritarian regimes do. It's about truth

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Speaker 1: and trust. The coin of the realm is trust. And

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Speaker 1: the one institution that the world has long looked to

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Speaker 1: for trust is the Bureau of Labor Statistics. It's foundational

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Speaker 1: from a global perspective, not just from an American perspective,

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Speaker 1: and it is completely consistent. And this is why it's

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Speaker 1: so alarming that Donald Trump is going after what he

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Speaker 1: refers to as the deep state, which are competent bureaucrats.

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Speaker 1: Politicians come and go, but there are people that maintain,

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Speaker 1: through competency and character, the distinction of being professionals that

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Speaker 1: outlived administrations or outlive administrations. And what Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: doing is politicizing every single position. He's eliminated oversight by

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Speaker 1: eliminating inspector generals. He's eliminating auditing functions so that there

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Speaker 1: are no recourse for actions he takes. He's got immunity

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Speaker 1: printed by the Supreme Court in terms of any actions

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Speaker 1: he possibly could take. These are all all signs of

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Speaker 1: interiorating democracy. But this perhaps is the most alarming of

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Speaker 1: all the actions so far by the Trump administration because

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Speaker 1: this is about, as Tom Freeman wrote today in The

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Speaker 1: New York Times, the deconstruction of the American system. And

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Speaker 1: he will put in a crony. He will put in

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Speaker 1: someone that by definition now people can't trust, and that

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Speaker 1: foundation of trust is all we have. So this is

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Speaker 1: code read. This is another reason we all need to

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Speaker 1: step up and share our voice. This is another reason

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Speaker 1: we all need to stay focused and not get distracted

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Speaker 1: by the latest true social or tweet or whatever today's

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Speaker 1: headline is, and continue to focus on the essential nature

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Speaker 1: of the architecture that holds up this system. That's why

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Speaker 1: redistricting and all the conversations that are being had are

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Speaker 1: on Texas and what states like California can do to

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Speaker 1: counter that are so important. Making sure that architecture of

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Speaker 1: truth and trust is maintained, and we call out Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's tyrannical well forgive me authoritarian tendencies. If you want

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Speaker 1: your questions answered, reach us at This is Gavin Newsom

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