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Speaker 1: the Afterlife with Satra Champlain.
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Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 2: Each episode will discuss the reasons we now know that
Speaker 2: our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. As I talk to
Speaker 2: you today, it's October. It is pouring rain outside. Rain
Speaker 2: drops are hitting the roof. It's cool going into the fall,
Speaker 2: and I just had a memory that came flooding back.
Speaker 2: It was nineteen years ago this month that I got
Speaker 2: my first EVP electronic voice phenomena. There I was in
Speaker 2: a cabin at a retreat center in Rhinebeck, New York.
Speaker 2: The course was on electronic voice phenomena with Tom and
Speaker 2: Lisa Butler, who wrote the book There Is No Death
Speaker 2: and There Are No Dead. After hearing many examples of
Speaker 2: electronic voice phenomena that is, loved ones speak looking through
Speaker 2: recordings on digital tape recorders, I retreated to my cabin
Speaker 2: on the Saturday night of the class. Sunday was to
Speaker 2: be our final day. At that point, I had studied
Speaker 2: enough about the afterlife and had taken a medium course
Speaker 2: to know the reality of the afterlife. But nineteen years
Speaker 2: ago I didn't have the evidence I needed to go
Speaker 2: public with this. So there I was in my cabin
Speaker 2: alone in the rain, holding my digital tape recorder. I
Speaker 2: pressed record. I imagined my aunt, uncle, grandmother, and grandfather,
Speaker 2: who were all deceased, standing at the foot of my bed.
Speaker 2: I said to them, if this is real and you
Speaker 2: guys are still alive, and if I'm supposed to help
Speaker 2: people believe in the afterlife. I need you to try
Speaker 2: to talk very loud. I'll let this record one minute,
Speaker 2: and then I'll say good night. I held my recorder
Speaker 2: in my hand, recording the sound of raindrops, and after
Speaker 2: a minute, I said good night. In the class, we
Speaker 2: had learned that our loved ones on the other side
Speaker 2: can rearrange the sounds that are recorded and make them
Speaker 2: into voices. As much as I believed this, I needed
Speaker 2: my own recording. I hadn't brought my computer or any
Speaker 2: programs where I could turn up the volume or loop
Speaker 2: the recording over and over, trying to listen for words.
Speaker 2: But as I pressed the play button on the recording,
Speaker 2: and around second number forty six on the replay, I
Speaker 2: heard something that gave me chills. I stopped it, rewound it,
Speaker 2: and played it again and again. A man's voice says
Speaker 2: good night Sandra. Two women whisper good night, good night,
Speaker 2: and another male voice came in saying good night. Wow.
Speaker 2: That moment changed my life. I went from believing in
Speaker 2: the afterlife to knowing also. I'm not proud to say this,
Speaker 2: but I got a little freaked out and a little scared.
Speaker 2: You see, it started making sense that there's this veil
Speaker 2: between our world and the next, and I questioned, are
Speaker 2: people always around? Do I have privacy? It may sound silly,
Speaker 2: and in the past episodes I spoke of a great
Speaker 2: book called do dead people watch Me in the shower?
Speaker 2: The answer is they don't. We do have our privacy.
Speaker 2: The good news is I went to class the next
Speaker 2: day and played my EVP for the group. My classmates
Speaker 2: all had lost someone significant to them, and I saw
Speaker 2: in a minute how hearing a voice from an EVP
Speaker 2: can help those grieving. It was that moment that I
Speaker 2: decided to do lots of recordings and experiment with other people,
Speaker 2: and eventually here we are, nineteen years later on Shades
Speaker 2: of the Afterlife, with now over two hundred episodes discussing
Speaker 2: the many reasons to believe in the afterlife. But as
Speaker 2: I contemplate this episode today, I think of the many
Speaker 2: things that our loved ones can do in time and space,
Speaker 2: turning on and off televisions, leaving voices on tape recorders,
Speaker 2: sending text messages, emails, and even phone calls from the deceased.
Speaker 2: So if it's okay with you, I want to share
Speaker 2: some of these stories, some from fellow listeners, some from
Speaker 2: stories I've heard along the way, talk to you about
Speaker 2: some experts who have actually studied this and create the
Speaker 2: possibility as I'm sure our loved ones are listening as well,
Speaker 2: of how they can work with us and give us
Speaker 2: more signs that they live on. A few weeks ago,
Speaker 2: you heard some words from listener Kathy who received an
Speaker 2: email after her son had passed. It came from an
Speaker 2: email address of a person she didn't know, and it
Speaker 2: simply had one word in the body of it, Sean,
Speaker 2: which is her son's name. Doing a little research, she
Speaker 2: found the person who sent it had been long dead.
Speaker 2: I also recall the story of one listener who told
Speaker 2: me that her son had newly passed. She had purchased
Speaker 2: a smart TV, one that had all the video apps
Speaker 2: on it as well as being able to connect to
Speaker 2: cable television. She lived alone, ran out to do a
Speaker 2: few errands. When she returned to her house, not only
Speaker 2: was the television on, but it was on YouTube. And
Speaker 2: what YouTube was playing was a replay of one of
Speaker 2: my Sunday gatherings. And if you're new to the show,
Speaker 2: Every Sunday, two pm New York time on Zoom, we
Speaker 2: do a live gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included.
Speaker 2: So she watched the replay. It opened her mind to
Speaker 2: the possibility of her son living on, and she's joined
Speaker 2: our community. But who turned on that television? Who tuned
Speaker 2: it to YouTube and found a Sunday gathering? A few
Speaker 2: years back, I got a wonderful email from a man
Speaker 2: whose three year old child had recently passed. He wasn't
Speaker 2: interested in the afterlife, but to distract him, he picked
Speaker 2: up his phone and simply said, Siri, play some news.
Speaker 2: Siri did not turn on a news channel. She started
Speaker 2: playing an episode of our podcast. That man told me
Speaker 2: he listened to almost every episode, giving him hope and
Speaker 2: faith that his daughter lives on. How these things happen,
Speaker 2: we may never or until we get to the other side,
Speaker 2: but they're real. They do happen, and I want to
Speaker 2: share with you some incredible stories, Carol says. I've had
Speaker 2: several signs, but this one is the first and the best.
Speaker 2: My brother died in two thousand and I had a
Speaker 2: picture of him on my dresser. Only a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks after he died. I was in my room and
Speaker 2: I had been looking a long time at his picture.
Speaker 2: I said out loud, I can't believe you're gone, and
Speaker 2: I miss you so much. Right Ben, My ceiling light
Speaker 2: slowly dimmed and went back to normal, not once, but
Speaker 2: three times in a row. It was slow and deliberate.
Speaker 2: I remember looking at my light switch on the wall
Speaker 2: and thinking I don't even have a dimmer switch. I
Speaker 2: was filled with a huge adrenaline rush and never felt
Speaker 2: anything like it. To make it even more validating, my
Speaker 2: brother was an electrician. I knew he heard me, and
Speaker 2: he was telling me he's still here with me. From
Speaker 2: that moment on, I went from feeling utter pain and
Speaker 2: despair to peace and hope. Jeanne says. My wife and
Speaker 2: I met at a large electronics store that we both
Speaker 2: worked at back in the nineties. I ran the computer
Speaker 2: upgrades department. She worked in music and movies. The store
Speaker 2: didn't last long. It went out of business and the
Speaker 2: building was sold to a local community college and converted
Speaker 2: to a campus. The area she worked in was turned
Speaker 2: into the college auditorium. When she died unexpectedly last year,
Speaker 2: I went to the college to ask if we could
Speaker 2: hold a celebration of life in the auditorium. They said yes,
Speaker 2: and I planned out an event in her honor. I
Speaker 2: stood on the stage telling everyone the story of how
Speaker 2: we met and the significance of the building we were in.
Speaker 2: Just as I was telling the story, a set of
Speaker 2: stage lights started going on and off without skipping a beat.
Speaker 2: I looked up at the lights and said, let me
Speaker 2: finish telling this story, Becky, How could I ever forget
Speaker 2: how I met you? And then the lights stopped blinking
Speaker 2: and just stayed on. There was laughter and smiles because
Speaker 2: I was one hundred percent confident that she was there
Speaker 2: and she wouldn't have missed it. Susan says, my dad
Speaker 2: recently passed and he reached out to me hours after
Speaker 2: he passed, and I was still with him at the time.
Speaker 2: He had no technoledge, but his name Dad kept showing
Speaker 2: up among my text messages. He had never texted me before,
Speaker 2: and he never even had a phone that did text.
Speaker 2: I know Britt helped him from the other side, and
Speaker 2: he now understands technology. I love the amazing contexts I
Speaker 2: have received from most of my family who have passed
Speaker 2: over the years. This dad says. My son was twenty
Speaker 2: years old and passed away on April fifteenth last year,
Speaker 2: which was my birthday, he passed in a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 2: Later that day, I was using my phone to watch
Speaker 2: some old videos on YouTube. I put my phone down
Speaker 2: on the arm of the chair and stood up. I
Speaker 2: looked down at my phone and had a thought my
Speaker 2: son was trying to contact me in some way without
Speaker 2: me touching it. The screen started to scroll down on
Speaker 2: its own at a frantic pace and stopped at a
Speaker 2: James Dean video about his death from a road accident,
Speaker 2: dying in his car. I looked at my girlfriend. She
Speaker 2: saw it all happen too, so I wasn't imagining it.
Speaker 2: Ten minutes later, my son's picture fell off the sideboard
Speaker 2: and onto the floor. We were both semi spooped, but
Speaker 2: I also felt kind of easy about him coming to
Speaker 2: see me and giving me this sign. Thank you, Christopher.
Speaker 2: I think about you every day and I love you Dad.
Speaker 2: Prior to my own dad's death, I had given his
Speaker 2: nurse my cell phone number, and she had given me
Speaker 2: hers in case of an emergency. We never did exchange
Speaker 2: phone calls, and I forgot that her number was stored
Speaker 2: on my phone. Many times after my dad passed, when
Speaker 2: I was in deep grief or was dealing with something troubling.
Speaker 2: My phone would ring just for a couple of rings,
Speaker 2: and it said Dad's nurse. If I answered the phone,
Speaker 2: no one was there. Of course, it's possible that it
Speaker 2: is a famous butt dial accidentally being dialed by her. However,
Speaker 2: why would I be the last phone number dialed and
Speaker 2: why would it happen so many different times? To me,
Speaker 2: they were just gentle reminders of my dad saying I'm
Speaker 2: still here and everything will be okay. It's time for
Speaker 2: our first break and we'll be back with more stories
Speaker 2: and more phone calls from the dead. You're listening to
Speaker 2: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Speaker 2: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of
Speaker 2: the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and today we're talking about
Speaker 2: phone calls from the dead and other interesting things that
Speaker 2: they can do with technology, electricity, etc. How about another story.
Speaker 2: This one is from Mandy. She says, my mom had
Speaker 2: died in December of twenty fourteen, and in the spring
Speaker 2: of twenty fifteen, I got a text message from her phone.
Speaker 2: I was with my friend in the carped up mom
Speaker 2: and it was one of those inspirational messages in the
Speaker 2: form of a meme. I'm glad my friend was there
Speaker 2: to witness that we had disconnected mom's phone. A few
Speaker 2: weeks after she had passed. I tried to call the
Speaker 2: number back, assuming it was assigned to another person, and
Speaker 2: I got the message that the phone number was not
Speaker 2: in service. It was very strange, yet very comforting. I
Speaker 2: do believe it was from my mom. Ari says. I
Speaker 2: was in my living room in my house and my
Speaker 2: mom was doing something in her room. My grandfather passed
Speaker 2: in mid November, and my mom had kept his phone.
Speaker 2: My mom had left her phone on the couch right
Speaker 2: next to me, and it suddenly began to ring, and
Speaker 2: it flashed that my grandfather's phone was calling her. I
Speaker 2: ran to my mom and showed her the ringing phone.
Speaker 2: She opened the drawer and my grandfather's phone was indeed
Speaker 2: calling her. Just as she picked it up, the phone
Speaker 2: stopped ringing. We believe it was my grandfather saying hello.
Speaker 2: Barry says, my best friend killed himself in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: and I received a call from his number. His mom
Speaker 2: had left his phone active just so she could replay
Speaker 2: his voicemail messages and hear his voice. On that day,
Speaker 2: I saw his name flash across my phone, and my
Speaker 2: stomach dropped as I went to answer it. When I did,
Speaker 2: all I heard was my name spoken in his voice,
Speaker 2: plain as day. I was so spooked I hung up
Speaker 2: immediately and I cried. It felt like he was calling
Speaker 2: me as if it was a normal day to tell
Speaker 2: me about something that had just happened. But in retrospect,
Speaker 2: I find it really comforting now. Jacob says, my dad
Speaker 2: died of cancer over ten years ago. A little less
Speaker 2: than a month after I got on my knees and
Speaker 2: prayed for some type of a sign that there is
Speaker 2: something after this life and that Dad was still alive.
Speaker 2: At three ten in the morning, I got a voicemail
Speaker 2: from a private number. Through the static, my dad's voice
Speaker 2: emerged and said Hello, Jacoby, which was a name only
Speaker 2: my dad called me by. I still have that recording,
Speaker 2: and I let my family and friends listen to it,
Speaker 2: and we all agree that it is definitely my dad's voice.
Speaker 2: In their nineteen seventy nine book Phone Calls from the Dead,
Speaker 2: parapsychologists Raymond Bayliss and d Scott Rogo examine this phenomena
Speaker 2: and great depth. They say, for as long as there
Speaker 2: have been methods of electronic communication between the living, there
Speaker 2: have been reports of the departed and how they are
Speaker 2: somehow able to access these devices and make contact with
Speaker 2: us from beyond the grave. Having looked at numerous examples
Speaker 2: of this, the authors noted several common themes. The majority
Speaker 2: of such contacts occurred within the first twenty four hours
Speaker 2: of the deceased caller having passed away, although in a
Speaker 2: limited number of cases this period could be extended for
Speaker 2: up to two years or more. A significant number of
Speaker 2: the callers seemed to be almost confused or disoriented for
Speaker 2: the duration of the call, discussing subjects which were either
Speaker 2: cryptic or irrelevant with the recipient. Quite often. The witnesses
Speaker 2: involved report that the quality of the line was very poor,
Speaker 2: with the words being spoken difficult to distinguish because of
Speaker 2: static or white noise. In addition, it was common for
Speaker 2: the voice of the speakers to be described as muffled
Speaker 2: or metallic, sometimes sounding as if they were standing some
Speaker 2: distance from the handset. Eventually, after analyzing and assessing the
Speaker 2: various reports they had managed to unearth, the two scientists
Speaker 2: formed the opinion that such calls could be divided into
Speaker 2: two categories. The first of these classifications involves receiving a
Speaker 2: call from someone who has passed away, although the caller
Speaker 2: does not speak when the phone is answered. The second
Speaker 2: presents as a seemingly innocuous call from a loved one,
Speaker 2: where it is later discovered that the conversation should have
Speaker 2: been impossible, as the friend or relative in question had
Speaker 2: recently passed on. In the spring of nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 2: a young man named Carl had rented a cottage for
Speaker 2: a weekend vacation. Upon arriving to the cottage, Carl was
Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised to find an old fashioned telephone handset sitting
Speaker 2: on the bedside table. But on the first evening of
Speaker 2: his trip, he had been drifting off to sleep when
Speaker 2: he was unexpectedly awoken by the sound of the phone
Speaker 2: ringing insistently beside him. Half asleep and glancing at his wristwatch,
Speaker 2: Carl could see that it was eleven fifteen pm, which
Speaker 2: led him to believe that the call must be important.
Speaker 2: Lifting up the handset, he was somewhat bewildered to hear
Speaker 2: his father's voice on the other end of the line,
Speaker 2: informing him that his mother needed to speak with him.
Speaker 2: When he tried to ask what the issue was, his
Speaker 2: father had continued to speak, almost as if he was
Speaker 2: not hearing Carl's reply. The young man had become increasingly
Speaker 2: concerned and frustrated as he was repeatedly urged to call her.
Speaker 2: He demanded to know why his father could simply not
Speaker 2: pass the phone over to his mother, as she should
Speaker 2: have been there with him by his side. After a
Speaker 2: minute or two, having made no progress, his father had
Speaker 2: suddenly made reference to the fact that he was in
Speaker 2: a beautiful place and then hung up, replacing the receiver.
Speaker 2: Carl had then tried to call his parents several times
Speaker 2: at their home phone number, only to find that the
Speaker 2: phone on the night stand seemed unable to make outgoing calls. Irritated,
Speaker 2: he got out of bed and searched the rest of
Speaker 2: the cottage for another phone, only to discover that the
Speaker 2: one in the bedroom appeared to be the only phone
Speaker 2: inside the premises. Having struggled to sleep that night, Carl
Speaker 2: had risen early the next morning and made his way
Speaker 2: into the nearest town so he could place a call
Speaker 2: to his parents. Upon locating a public phone booth, he
Speaker 2: was shocked to discover from relatives that his mother was
Speaker 2: unable to speak to him at the time, as she
Speaker 2: was still far too upset. She had been lying in
Speaker 2: bed with his father the previous evening when he suddenly
Speaker 2: began to convulse, dying of a heart attack. A short
Speaker 2: time later, on making further inquiries with the family, he
Speaker 2: was even more unnerved to discover the time of his
Speaker 2: father's death, which had been recorded by the attending paramedics
Speaker 2: at exactly eleven fifteen pm. It was only afterwards, as
Speaker 2: he had quickly packed his things back at the cottage,
Speaker 2: that the bewildered and traumatized Karl discovered that the phone
Speaker 2: by his bed was purely ornamental and had never been
Speaker 2: connected to a working phone line. During the course of
Speaker 2: some of these exchanges, the caller demonstrates a definite purpose
Speaker 2: or agenda as they speak, determined to ensure that the
Speaker 2: reason for their call is fully understood by the recipient.
Speaker 2: It is during these incidents that authors Bayliss and Rogo
Speaker 2: noticed the highest percentage of distorted or robotic speech patterns
Speaker 2: reported by witnesses. It's interesting, as I told you my
Speaker 2: EVP story in the last segment, hearing that word robotic.
Speaker 2: When you listen to electronic voice phenomena and our deceased
Speaker 2: loved ones rearrange the sounds of rain drops or a
Speaker 2: fan in the background, or whatever white noise it is,
Speaker 2: the voices do seem distorted and robotic. Could it be
Speaker 2: the same intelligence when they're making one of these phone calls.
Speaker 2: When examining these cases, it seems easy to dismiss the
Speaker 2: idea of people being contacted by the dead. Often it
Speaker 2: is alleged that the person receiving the call must have
Speaker 2: been tired or mistaken about what they heard on the line.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're explained as dreams or the product of an
Speaker 2: overactive imagination. The fact that in most cases there's no
Speaker 2: tangible evidence to prove the call ever took place offers
Speaker 2: no lead and find out the truth of this matter.
Speaker 2: Witnesses have reported that the dead have phoned them from
Speaker 2: withheld or private numbers, sometimes from phone numbers they recognize
Speaker 2: or already saved in their device, but examination of call
Speaker 2: histories and phone bill files never show any record of
Speaker 2: these communications, which only further undermines the testimony of those
Speaker 2: reporting them. But this does not necessarily prove that the
Speaker 2: witness didn't experience something strange. Authors Baylis and Rogo say
Speaker 2: that in these occurrences, although no real phone call takes place,
Speaker 2: the spirits of the dead may merely be manipulating communication
Speaker 2: devices to give the impression that a call was received.
Speaker 2: Some commentators have attempted to tie these experiences to other phenomena.
Speaker 2: For instance, a middle aged woman traveling through Nebraska one
Speaker 2: evening observed a strange object in the skins eyes. Just
Speaker 2: as she returned home, her phone began to ring. The
Speaker 2: man who spoke to her on the other end of
Speaker 2: the line had a metallic, robotic toned to his voice
Speaker 2: and identified himself as Roger. When she informed him that
Speaker 2: she didn't know anybody by that name, he told her
Speaker 2: that he was her brother and then hung up. The woman,
Speaker 2: who was an only child, shrugged the incident off as
Speaker 2: a wrong number, but some years later she learned, long
Speaker 2: before she was born, her mother had given birth to
Speaker 2: a stillborn baby boy. His name was Roger. If the
Speaker 2: spirits of the dead can manifest themselves physically to their
Speaker 2: loved ones using ADC's after death communications that we so
Speaker 2: often talk about, leaving no trace of their appearance, then
Speaker 2: why should they not be able to do the same
Speaker 2: utilizing our current technology. Recipients received comfort as if it's
Speaker 2: one final chance to speak with their love ones and
Speaker 2: give them hope that they survive after death. Now, if
Speaker 2: you're anything like me, when I see a phone call
Speaker 2: from an unidentified number, I tend to think it's spam
Speaker 2: or somebody who's solicitor. But could it just be from
Speaker 2: someone we don't expect calling from across the veil. It's
Speaker 2: time to go into our next break and then we'll
Speaker 2: be back with some more stories. You're listening to Shades
Speaker 2: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
Speaker 2: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain, continue to explore phone calls from the deceased.
Speaker 2: This story is from Bonnie. My grandparents died in a
Speaker 2: fire in their home this past Thanksgiving. I was very
Speaker 2: close with my grandmother and it had been very traumatizing
Speaker 2: for us all. Several weeks later, my mom received a
Speaker 2: call on her cell phone from my grandparents' house phone
Speaker 2: while she was at work, and unfortunately she couldn't answer.
Speaker 2: That very same night, I received a call from my
Speaker 2: grandmother's cell phone. It disconnected after twenty five seconds. I
Speaker 2: started calling it often, and usually nothing happened. Recently, I
Speaker 2: was having a particularly hard time when I got the
Speaker 2: urge to call her cell phone. This time it connected.
Speaker 2: I heard static, but then it disconnected after twenty five seconds.
Speaker 2: I was holding the phone and staring at it in
Speaker 2: disbelief when I began to receive text messages from her
Speaker 2: cell number. The first text simply said my name, and
Speaker 2: a few blank messages were sent. Then she said she
Speaker 2: had no voice, couldn't speak, and loved me very much.
Speaker 2: No more messages came through. It was then I had
Speaker 2: a full blown crying meltdown. It was shocking. My grandmother
Speaker 2: never texted. She was unable to. She had an old
Speaker 2: flip phone that was destroyed in the fire. The number
Speaker 2: was still hers, it was not disconnected. I ended up
Speaker 2: finding a medium to connect with my grandmother, and the
Speaker 2: medium told me, not knowing any information, that my grandmother
Speaker 2: was trying to reach me on the telephone. My mom
Speaker 2: and my family can't seem to accept that this is possible,
Speaker 2: but in my world, I believe she has contacted me,
Speaker 2: and my life is definitely better for it. Stacy says,
Speaker 2: less than a week after my mom passed, I was
Speaker 2: driving and my cell phone rang and I saw Mom
Speaker 2: on the screen. It was a call from her cell phone.
Speaker 2: I stared at it for a bit and thought maybe
Speaker 2: my dad or my sister had the phone, so I
Speaker 2: picked it up and said hello. There was only silence
Speaker 2: and kind of a crackly static for around three minutes
Speaker 2: before the call ended. Neither my dad or sister had
Speaker 2: touched the phone. Although I never heard her voice, I
Speaker 2: really believe it was Mom reaching out from the other side.
Speaker 2: Kent says my best friend's boyfriend overdosed in his sleep,
Speaker 2: and for the next three months she received phone calls
Speaker 2: from his canceled phone number, and although the first call
Speaker 2: was super soul crushing to her, the more they came
Speaker 2: in the more comfort they brought her. Eventually these phone calls,
Speaker 2: but she came to the conclusion that he was safe
Speaker 2: and happy in his new home in Heaven. Kay says,
Speaker 2: my grandmother's phone called me three times the week after
Speaker 2: she died. My family just brushed it off as maybe
Speaker 2: it was the cat stepping on the phone, as Grandma
Speaker 2: had me on speed dial. But I was so close
Speaker 2: to my grandmother. I felt in my heart it was
Speaker 2: her giving me a sign. Mike says, after my oldest
Speaker 2: brother died, I really wanted to talk to him, and
Speaker 2: I called out to him. That night, which was about
Speaker 2: a month after his death, he came to me in
Speaker 2: a dream. It was very dark, but I could still
Speaker 2: see him clearly, and the first thing I noticed was
Speaker 2: all of his tattoos were gone. He was smiling, told
Speaker 2: me he was okay, and to let my grandmother know
Speaker 2: he was okay. My grandmother died around three months after
Speaker 2: this dream. I asked him if he could see us,
Speaker 2: and he said sometimes. We exchanged a few other words,
Speaker 2: and suddenly everything got darker and I felt like he
Speaker 2: had to go. I told him that I love him
Speaker 2: and I really miss him, and he replied, I love
Speaker 2: you too, boy, but I'm always with you. And when
Speaker 2: I woke up, I saw a mist hovering over me
Speaker 2: that suddenly vanished. Vivian says, a few months after my
Speaker 2: father died, one night, I felt like I spoke with
Speaker 2: him on the phone. At the time, I thought I
Speaker 2: had been dreaming, but I remember it so well as
Speaker 2: if it happened yesterday. My father was the only person
Speaker 2: who called me viv in this dream that wasn't a dream.
Speaker 2: The phone rang and answered it and said hello, Hello, VIVI,
Speaker 2: my father's voice said to me. But I knew that
Speaker 2: it couldn't be him. He was dead. Who is this talking?
Speaker 2: I said, viv you know who this is, don't you?
Speaker 2: He said, who is this? I asked again. I couldn't
Speaker 2: bear to say his name, as I missed him so much. Now, VIVI,
Speaker 2: you know who this is? He said again, Daddy? Can
Speaker 2: that really be you? I finally called him daddy, And
Speaker 2: when I said his name, I didn't hear another word,
Speaker 2: as if I had acknowledged who it was, and that's
Speaker 2: all I needed to hear. I don't recall hearing the
Speaker 2: phone click, but there was silence. I believe, just as
Speaker 2: sure as I am standing here, that my father was
Speaker 2: talking to me. You and I know that death and
Speaker 2: loss are highly significant events, and these can affect our dreams.
Speaker 2: We're so used to having these people in our life
Speaker 2: that when we get to the dream world, we interact
Speaker 2: with them. However, from our past episodes on dreams, including
Speaker 2: lucid dreaming, most dreams of our loved ones simply fade away.
Speaker 2: We wake up and we don't remember our dreams. I believe,
Speaker 2: as well as many experts, that those dreams that you
Speaker 2: can still recall to this day are actual dream visitations,
Speaker 2: not unlike near death experiences that are as crystal clear
Speaker 2: to the experiencer as if they just happened today. Tracy
Speaker 2: lost her husband, Luke, from a pulmonary embolism while he
Speaker 2: was undergoing treatment for lung cancer. Luke was in the
Speaker 2: habit of phoning his wife often during his stay in
Speaker 2: the hospital. Sometimes he even rang her in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night because the prospect of dying scared him.
Speaker 2: His wife would reassure him that he was being well
Speaker 2: looked after in the hospital and that he would be
Speaker 2: home soon. Unfortunately, Luke lost his battle with the illness
Speaker 2: and passed away suddenly. They buried him on the thirteenth
Speaker 2: of December. One of the possessions they placed in the
Speaker 2: coffin with him was his cell phone. Around two weeks
Speaker 2: after Luke died, Tracy says, I began to receive missed
Speaker 2: calls in the middle of the night, apparently from Luke.
Speaker 2: Something always made me wake up to see my phone
Speaker 2: screen flashing miss call Luke. I rang the number back
Speaker 2: straight away, knowing full well that his phone was buried. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the phone went direct to a message saying this phone
Speaker 2: is switched off, Please try later. I was able to
Speaker 2: show several witnesses at the time these mist calls, and
Speaker 2: they probably thought I was crazy. However, on Christmas Day,
Speaker 2: the last missed call came in in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night. Following this call, all the Luke mist call
Speaker 2: data that it's automatically stored on my phone disappeared, despite
Speaker 2: me having shown other people the record of it. Tiffany says,
Speaker 2: I got a dream call, perhaps the most lucid dream
Speaker 2: I have ever had. It was one day after my
Speaker 2: best friend from high school passed away from a car accident.
Speaker 2: We were eighteen and had just graduated. My cell phone
Speaker 2: rang I answered and heard Hey. I knew it was
Speaker 2: his voice. He said, tiff do you know who this is?
Speaker 2: I said, yes, but it can't be you. You're dead.
Speaker 2: How are you doing this? He said, I'm using your grandparents' landline.
Speaker 2: That's exactly where I was living at the time. So
Speaker 2: I jumped out of bed, opened my bedroom door, expecting
Speaker 2: to see the phone being used in some capacity, but
Speaker 2: it sat there motionless on the receiver while I talked
Speaker 2: to my dead best friend. I said to him, Chad,
Speaker 2: you're scaring me, at which point he said to me,
Speaker 2: don't be scared. I'm just using my energy to call
Speaker 2: you through their phone because I need you to know
Speaker 2: that I am okay, I am not hurting, and you
Speaker 2: need to keep an eye on Heather, who was our
Speaker 2: mutual best friend, because she's not handling this very well
Speaker 2: and you have to keep her from getting messed up
Speaker 2: with that boy she's dating. Then he said, do you
Speaker 2: have any questions for me? I said, I love you.
Speaker 2: He said, I love you too. You don't want to
Speaker 2: ask me anything, So I asked, what's it like? He answered,
Speaker 2: sometimes it's really cool and sometimes it's really warm, but
Speaker 2: for the most part, it's perfect. Then we said I
Speaker 2: love you one more time. And even after I woke up,
Speaker 2: the dream was so clear I swear it really happened.
Speaker 2: Although it might have been a dream, I am convinced
Speaker 2: that it was a visit from Chad. Junior says, my
Speaker 2: dad's cell phone rang one week after he passed. He
Speaker 2: was on my cell phone account and I hadn't gotten
Speaker 2: around to canceling the line. I heard the phone ringing.
Speaker 2: I followed it into my mom's room, then to her dresser,
Speaker 2: and on top of the dresser there were two small
Speaker 2: drawers to keep small things like rings and jewelry, and
Speaker 2: Mom had placed Dad's phone in there. I opened the
Speaker 2: drawer with the phone that was ringing. I picked it
Speaker 2: up and it was still lit. It was an old
Speaker 2: Motorola flip phone. And what's so weird is it showed
Speaker 2: the number as the same phone I was about to answer.
Speaker 2: When I picked it up. It hung up immediately. Nothing
Speaker 2: else happened around my father's death except that one incident
Speaker 2: a week after he died, but that was more than
Speaker 2: enough for me to know he was still around. Katie says,
Speaker 2: after my favorite Aunt Pat died, my phone kept getting
Speaker 2: FaceTime calls from her phone number, and every single time
Speaker 2: the phone would ring, I would see a hummingbird. This
Speaker 2: happened maybe five or six times, and I believe that's
Speaker 2: the sign that Aunt Pat is still with me. Hadley says,
Speaker 2: ten hours after my mom passed, I received a text
Speaker 2: from her cell phone. All it said was I love you,
Speaker 2: proud of you. I immediately knew everything was good with her.
Speaker 2: We'll be heading off into our next break, but when
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll have some more stories telephone calls
Speaker 2: from the deceased, and also some words from some of
Speaker 2: our favorite people, including thoughts on the afterlife from inventor
Speaker 2: Thomas Edison. Will be right back. You're listening to Shades
Speaker 2: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
Speaker 2: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain and we're talking about phone calls with
Speaker 2: the deceased. Let's go back in time. You know the
Speaker 2: name Thomas Alva Edison. Born in eighteen forty seven, passed
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty one. He is probably the most famous
Speaker 2: inventor in history, holding almost eleven hundred patents from the
Speaker 2: early inventions of the light bulb and the phonograph, the
Speaker 2: motion picture camera, electric power. But did you know he
Speaker 2: was working on a death machine. It sounds far fetched,
Speaker 2: but it's a way to communicy with people here on
Speaker 2: earth from loved ones in the spirit world. It was
Speaker 2: not far fetched at the time. You see. Edison lived
Speaker 2: in a time when spirituality was a big thing. There
Speaker 2: was this spiritualist movement, there was ghost photography featuring ectoplasm
Speaker 2: ouiji boards, seances, floating tables, tapping, and knocks and bangs
Speaker 2: coming from around the room. In the twenties, there may
Speaker 2: have been eight million people interested in spiritualism, especially following
Speaker 2: the horrors of World War One and the great loss
Speaker 2: of life. It's totally understandable that people were looking for
Speaker 2: ways to communicate with their loved ones. Unfortunately, this also
Speaker 2: gave rise to so many phony mediums trying to profit
Speaker 2: off those grieving. Edison hypothesized that if we do indeed
Speaker 2: survive death, then the instrumentation which is designed to establish
Speaker 2: contact with the dead must be compiled of extremely sensitive
Speaker 2: components to help these subtle electrons which the dead are
Speaker 2: made of, to manipulate or tap into the physical matter
Speaker 2: of this world in order for communication to be established.
Speaker 2: Here's some words by Thomas Edison. The electron theory gives
Speaker 2: us a reply which is wholly satisfactory. I have had
Speaker 2: the matter roughly calculated, and have at hand the data
Speaker 2: of the calculation. I am sure that a highly organized
Speaker 2: entity consisting of millions of electrons, yet still remaining too
Speaker 2: small to be visible through any existing microscope, is possible. Now,
Speaker 2: he said that in nineteen twenty when asked on his
Speaker 2: views of life in death. A telephone requires electricity in
Speaker 2: order for it to function. Therefore, if we do survive
Speaker 2: death and manage to call the living by some means,
Speaker 2: then the electrons inside the telephone would need to be
Speaker 2: manipulated to enable the telephone to ring in order for
Speaker 2: someone to answer it. Although Thomas Edison never completed his
Speaker 2: machine to communicate between life and death, and one hundred
Speaker 2: years later no one has perfected it doesn't mean it's
Speaker 2: not possible. In the past, we've heard from doctor Mark
Speaker 2: Pittstick on the board of the Soul Phone, also the
Speaker 2: great Sonia Ronaldi, who captures voices and pictures of those
Speaker 2: in the afterlife. It's just a matter of time, my
Speaker 2: friend and I think they'll be more communication with the
Speaker 2: other side. Remember, energy cannot be destroyed. Most of the
Speaker 2: things in this universe are invisible to our eyes, but
Speaker 2: very real, and two or more forms of energy can
Speaker 2: be living at the same place at the exact same
Speaker 2: time as you sit, or stand or walk, listening to
Speaker 2: shades of the afterlife right now now around you could
Speaker 2: be cell phone signals, GPS signals, Wi Fi signals, music,
Speaker 2: television signals, and so much more. Yes, it's one hundred
Speaker 2: percent possible that our loved ones exist in this same space,
Speaker 2: invisible to our eyes, but very very real. Next two
Speaker 2: more of my favorite people, which are Coast to Coast
Speaker 2: AM's host George Nori and the late great author Rosemary
Speaker 2: Ellen Guiley. Together in twenty twelve, they published a book
Speaker 2: called Talking to the Dead, which you may enjoy adding
Speaker 2: to your library. In it, they talk about technology, strange
Speaker 2: signals that come from the other world, Edison's telephone to
Speaker 2: the spirit world, the birth of electronic voice, phenomena, spiricom
Speaker 2: life in the afterlife, and much more. I want to
Speaker 2: read just a little bit talking about phone call from
Speaker 2: the deceased. Imagine George Nori reading this to you now.
Speaker 2: Nighttime radio is the perfect confessional. Every night as host
Speaker 2: of Coast to Coast AM, I hear it all. Meetings
Speaker 2: with the dead, out of body journeys, encounters with aliens
Speaker 2: and entities, prophetic dreams, miracles, you name it, about the strange,
Speaker 2: we get it nightly. One of the most popular topics
Speaker 2: that people cannot seem to hear enough about or talk
Speaker 2: enough about, is contact with the dead. Almost everyone has
Speaker 2: a story about a time when they felt visited or
Speaker 2: contacted by someone who had passed over. Perhaps the experience
Speaker 2: was comforting, perhaps it was unsettling. Either way, it was
Speaker 2: definitely unforgettable and maybe even life changing. On this night,
Speaker 2: Rosemary Ellen Guilee has joined me in the studio to
Speaker 2: talk especially about communication with the dead, and take calls
Speaker 2: on open life lines. We know it's going to be
Speaker 2: an active night. Some nights are just like that. You
Speaker 2: can feel a charge in the air, like the coast
Speaker 2: to coast audience has linked up in a particular energized group. Mind.
Speaker 2: My producer Tom dan Heiser can feel it too. Tom
Speaker 2: screens the calls. Sometimes the phone lines are hot even
Speaker 2: before we start taking the calls. After we talk for
Speaker 2: a few minutes about Rosemary's latest research in spirit communications,
Speaker 2: we open the lines. They are already full with people
Speaker 2: wanting to tell their stories about talking to the dead.
Speaker 2: Beth East of Rockies I said to the first caller,
Speaker 2: you're on the air, George. Beth sounded hesitant. Go ahead, Beth,
Speaker 2: You're on the air. Yes, okay, thank you. I'm so
Speaker 2: glad you're doing this subject and I want to tell
Speaker 2: you and Rosemary, what happened to me. There is a
Speaker 2: brief pause, and we can almost hear Beth taking a
Speaker 2: big breath to plunge ahead on what must be a
Speaker 2: difficult topic. Beth continued, my dad died several years ago
Speaker 2: in a car accident. It was a big shock to
Speaker 2: everyone in our family, and her voice broke with emotion.
Speaker 2: I had a hard time dealing with it. She took
Speaker 2: a moment to compose herself. But here's the weird part.
Speaker 2: She says, about three weeks after he was gone, I
Speaker 2: think he called me on the phone. Rosemary nods to
Speaker 2: me in the studio. We've both heard these types of
Speaker 2: stories many times. He called you on the phone. I
Speaker 2: said to Beth, tell us what happened. I was at
Speaker 2: home by myself one day. It was in the afternoon.
Speaker 2: The phone rang, and I thought it sounded strange. I mean,
Speaker 2: it didn't have its usual ring. It sounded kind of distorted.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe there was something going wrong with the
Speaker 2: phone line. When I picked up the receiver and said hello,
Speaker 2: I could hear a lot of static. It reminded me
Speaker 2: of how long distance calls used to sound, you know,
Speaker 2: like they were coming from very far away with lots
Speaker 2: of interference on the line. I didn't hear any voices
Speaker 2: at first, and I said hello two or three times,
Speaker 2: and then this voice called out, Beth, Beth, is that you?
Speaker 2: And it sounded just like my dad. I'm not making
Speaker 2: this up. I'd know his voice anywhere. What did you
Speaker 2: say back, I asked. I was so shocked I couldn't
Speaker 2: say anything. He repeated, Beth, is that you? I said, Dad,
Speaker 2: is that you? I was practically shouting. He just kept repeating, Beth, Beth, Beth.
Speaker 2: The static sound got worse, and his voice fainter and fainter,
Speaker 2: and then it just stopped. I kept shouting into the
Speaker 2: phone for him to come back, and there was nothing
Speaker 2: but static, and the line just went dead, like someone
Speaker 2: pulled the chord out of the wall. I hung up
Speaker 2: the phone and then picked it up again, and the
Speaker 2: dial tone was normal. I was pretty shook up for
Speaker 2: the rest of the day. In fact, I still am
Speaker 2: if I think about it. I keep telling myself it
Speaker 2: was a fluke, a wrong number, and it was a
Speaker 2: man who sounded just like my dad, but he called
Speaker 2: me by name, Rosemary. What do you make of this?
Speaker 2: I said, Do you think Beth might have really talked
Speaker 2: to her father and was he calling from the other side.
Speaker 2: It's quite possible, she answered. There is a phenomena literally
Speaker 2: called phone calls from the dead or anomalous telephone contacts,
Speaker 2: and it has been documented just about as long as
Speaker 2: the telephone has been in existence. Under certain circumstances, the
Speaker 2: dead seemed to be able to access our phone technology
Speaker 2: and make calls to the living. Many of them are
Speaker 2: just like Beth described. They are full of static, but
Speaker 2: the voice of the dead person is recognizable. Most phone
Speaker 2: calls from the dead are very short, less than a minute,
Speaker 2: although a few longer ones have been documented, and I
Speaker 2: can think of one from parapsychology literature that was reported
Speaker 2: to last about thirty minutes. There are so many stories
Speaker 2: in this book that's called Talking to the Dead by
Speaker 2: George Nori and Rosemary Ellen Guiy. Do you find that
Speaker 2: these stories help you, let you see what's possible, perhaps
Speaker 2: make you want to answer an unknown phone call. You
Speaker 2: too may have a story, and I welcome your stories.
Speaker 2: You don't need to be famous, you don't need to
Speaker 2: have a book published, just you being a real human
Speaker 2: being with your experiences, your signs. Perhaps you've received some
Speaker 2: communication through a text or a phone call. Perhaps you've
Speaker 2: had something interesting happen with electricity or some other sign
Speaker 2: from your loved one. If you have a story, I'd
Speaker 2: love to hear it, and I'd love to share it
Speaker 2: with fellow listeners. We have a Facebook group. If you
Speaker 2: go to my website, we Don't Die dot com, just
Speaker 2: click on Facebook group. You can share your experience there. Also,
Speaker 2: while you're there, don't forget to sign up for our
Speaker 2: free Sunday gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included. But
Speaker 2: if you feel more comfortable emailing me Easy to remember
Speaker 2: Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com. I hope you never
Speaker 2: forget that there's more to life than meets the eye,
Speaker 2: and there's more to you than you know. Here's some
Speaker 2: words by Albert Einstein. When something vibrates, the electrons of
Speaker 2: the entire universe resonate with it. Everything is connected. The
Speaker 2: greatest tragedy of human existence is the illusion of separateness.
Speaker 2: Our separation from each other is an optical illusion. If
Speaker 2: you're an afterlife warrior, you can take my challenge. Listen
Speaker 2: to all episodes of Shades of the Afterlife and see
Speaker 2: if that changes your view a bit about life, death,
Speaker 2: the afterlife, and who you really are a divine soul
Speaker 2: having a human experience. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the
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