1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: And you're here. Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: to Ghost d A and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained ends here. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: They invite you to enjoy all our shows we have 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: on this network, and right now, let's start with Chase 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: the Afterlife with Satra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: to Coast AM employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Each episode will discuss the reasons we now know that 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we. 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. As I talk to 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: you today, it's October. It is pouring rain outside. Rain 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: drops are hitting the roof. It's cool going into the fall, 20 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: and I just had a memory that came flooding back. 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: It was nineteen years ago this month that I got 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: my first EVP electronic voice phenomena. There I was in 23 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: a cabin at a retreat center in Rhinebeck, New York. 24 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: The course was on electronic voice phenomena with Tom and 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: Lisa Butler, who wrote the book There Is No Death 26 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: and There Are No Dead. After hearing many examples of 27 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: electronic voice phenomena that is, loved ones speak looking through 28 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: recordings on digital tape recorders, I retreated to my cabin 29 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: on the Saturday night of the class. Sunday was to 30 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: be our final day. At that point, I had studied 31 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: enough about the afterlife and had taken a medium course 32 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: to know the reality of the afterlife. But nineteen years 33 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: ago I didn't have the evidence I needed to go 34 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: public with this. So there I was in my cabin 35 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: alone in the rain, holding my digital tape recorder. I 36 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: pressed record. I imagined my aunt, uncle, grandmother, and grandfather, 37 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: who were all deceased, standing at the foot of my bed. 38 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: I said to them, if this is real and you 39 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: guys are still alive, and if I'm supposed to help 40 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: people believe in the afterlife. I need you to try 41 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: to talk very loud. I'll let this record one minute, 42 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: and then I'll say good night. I held my recorder 43 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: in my hand, recording the sound of raindrops, and after 44 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: a minute, I said good night. In the class, we 45 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: had learned that our loved ones on the other side 46 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: can rearrange the sounds that are recorded and make them 47 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: into voices. As much as I believed this, I needed 48 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: my own recording. I hadn't brought my computer or any 49 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: programs where I could turn up the volume or loop 50 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: the recording over and over, trying to listen for words. 51 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: But as I pressed the play button on the recording, 52 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: and around second number forty six on the replay, I 53 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: heard something that gave me chills. I stopped it, rewound it, 54 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: and played it again and again. A man's voice says 55 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: good night Sandra. Two women whisper good night, good night, 56 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: and another male voice came in saying good night. Wow. 57 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: That moment changed my life. I went from believing in 58 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: the afterlife to knowing also. I'm not proud to say this, 59 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: but I got a little freaked out and a little scared. 60 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: You see, it started making sense that there's this veil 61 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: between our world and the next, and I questioned, are 62 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: people always around? Do I have privacy? It may sound silly, 63 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: and in the past episodes I spoke of a great 64 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: book called do dead people watch Me in the shower? 65 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: The answer is they don't. We do have our privacy. 66 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: The good news is I went to class the next 67 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: day and played my EVP for the group. My classmates 68 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: all had lost someone significant to them, and I saw 69 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: in a minute how hearing a voice from an EVP 70 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: can help those grieving. It was that moment that I 71 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: decided to do lots of recordings and experiment with other people, 72 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: and eventually here we are, nineteen years later on Shades 73 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: of the Afterlife, with now over two hundred episodes discussing 74 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: the many reasons to believe in the afterlife. But as 75 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: I contemplate this episode today, I think of the many 76 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: things that our loved ones can do in time and space, 77 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: turning on and off televisions, leaving voices on tape recorders, 78 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: sending text messages, emails, and even phone calls from the deceased. 79 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: So if it's okay with you, I want to share 80 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: some of these stories, some from fellow listeners, some from 81 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: stories I've heard along the way, talk to you about 82 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: some experts who have actually studied this and create the 83 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: possibility as I'm sure our loved ones are listening as well, 84 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: of how they can work with us and give us 85 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: more signs that they live on. A few weeks ago, 86 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: you heard some words from listener Kathy who received an 87 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: email after her son had passed. It came from an 88 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: email address of a person she didn't know, and it 89 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: simply had one word in the body of it, Sean, 90 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: which is her son's name. Doing a little research, she 91 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: found the person who sent it had been long dead. 92 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: I also recall the story of one listener who told 93 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: me that her son had newly passed. She had purchased 94 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: a smart TV, one that had all the video apps 95 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: on it as well as being able to connect to 96 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: cable television. She lived alone, ran out to do a 97 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: few errands. When she returned to her house, not only 98 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: was the television on, but it was on YouTube. And 99 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: what YouTube was playing was a replay of one of 100 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: my Sunday gatherings. And if you're new to the show, 101 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: Every Sunday, two pm New York time on Zoom, we 102 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: do a live gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included. 103 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: So she watched the replay. It opened her mind to 104 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: the possibility of her son living on, and she's joined 105 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: our community. But who turned on that television? Who tuned 106 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: it to YouTube and found a Sunday gathering? A few 107 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: years back, I got a wonderful email from a man 108 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: whose three year old child had recently passed. He wasn't 109 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: interested in the afterlife, but to distract him, he picked 110 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: up his phone and simply said, Siri, play some news. 111 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 2: Siri did not turn on a news channel. She started 112 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: playing an episode of our podcast. That man told me 113 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: he listened to almost every episode, giving him hope and 114 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: faith that his daughter lives on. How these things happen, 115 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: we may never or until we get to the other side, 116 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: but they're real. They do happen, and I want to 117 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: share with you some incredible stories, Carol says. I've had 118 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: several signs, but this one is the first and the best. 119 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: My brother died in two thousand and I had a 120 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: picture of him on my dresser. Only a couple of 121 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: weeks after he died. I was in my room and 122 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: I had been looking a long time at his picture. 123 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: I said out loud, I can't believe you're gone, and 124 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: I miss you so much. Right Ben, My ceiling light 125 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: slowly dimmed and went back to normal, not once, but 126 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: three times in a row. It was slow and deliberate. 127 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: I remember looking at my light switch on the wall 128 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 2: and thinking I don't even have a dimmer switch. I 129 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: was filled with a huge adrenaline rush and never felt 130 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: anything like it. To make it even more validating, my 131 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: brother was an electrician. I knew he heard me, and 132 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: he was telling me he's still here with me. From 133 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: that moment on, I went from feeling utter pain and 134 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: despair to peace and hope. Jeanne says. My wife and 135 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: I met at a large electronics store that we both 136 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: worked at back in the nineties. I ran the computer 137 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: upgrades department. She worked in music and movies. The store 138 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: didn't last long. It went out of business and the 139 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: building was sold to a local community college and converted 140 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: to a campus. The area she worked in was turned 141 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: into the college auditorium. When she died unexpectedly last year, 142 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: I went to the college to ask if we could 143 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: hold a celebration of life in the auditorium. They said yes, 144 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: and I planned out an event in her honor. I 145 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: stood on the stage telling everyone the story of how 146 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: we met and the significance of the building we were in. 147 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: Just as I was telling the story, a set of 148 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: stage lights started going on and off without skipping a beat. 149 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: I looked up at the lights and said, let me 150 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: finish telling this story, Becky, How could I ever forget 151 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: how I met you? And then the lights stopped blinking 152 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: and just stayed on. There was laughter and smiles because 153 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: I was one hundred percent confident that she was there 154 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: and she wouldn't have missed it. Susan says, my dad 155 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: recently passed and he reached out to me hours after 156 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: he passed, and I was still with him at the time. 157 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: He had no technoledge, but his name Dad kept showing 158 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: up among my text messages. He had never texted me before, 159 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: and he never even had a phone that did text. 160 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: I know Britt helped him from the other side, and 161 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: he now understands technology. I love the amazing contexts I 162 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 2: have received from most of my family who have passed 163 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: over the years. This dad says. My son was twenty 164 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: years old and passed away on April fifteenth last year, 165 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: which was my birthday, he passed in a motorcycle accident. 166 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: Later that day, I was using my phone to watch 167 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 2: some old videos on YouTube. I put my phone down 168 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: on the arm of the chair and stood up. I 169 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: looked down at my phone and had a thought my 170 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: son was trying to contact me in some way without 171 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: me touching it. The screen started to scroll down on 172 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: its own at a frantic pace and stopped at a 173 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: James Dean video about his death from a road accident, 174 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: dying in his car. I looked at my girlfriend. She 175 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 2: saw it all happen too, so I wasn't imagining it. 176 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: Ten minutes later, my son's picture fell off the sideboard 177 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: and onto the floor. We were both semi spooped, but 178 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: I also felt kind of easy about him coming to 179 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: see me and giving me this sign. Thank you, Christopher. 180 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: I think about you every day and I love you Dad. 181 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: Prior to my own dad's death, I had given his 182 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: nurse my cell phone number, and she had given me 183 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 2: hers in case of an emergency. We never did exchange 184 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: phone calls, and I forgot that her number was stored 185 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: on my phone. Many times after my dad passed, when 186 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: I was in deep grief or was dealing with something troubling. 187 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: My phone would ring just for a couple of rings, 188 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: and it said Dad's nurse. If I answered the phone, 189 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: no one was there. Of course, it's possible that it 190 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: is a famous butt dial accidentally being dialed by her. However, 191 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: why would I be the last phone number dialed and 192 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: why would it happen so many different times? To me, 193 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: they were just gentle reminders of my dad saying I'm 194 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: still here and everything will be okay. It's time for 195 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: our first break and we'll be back with more stories 196 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: and more phone calls from the dead. You're listening to 197 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 198 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of 199 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and today we're talking about 200 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: phone calls from the dead and other interesting things that 201 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: they can do with technology, electricity, etc. How about another story. 202 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: This one is from Mandy. She says, my mom had 203 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: died in December of twenty fourteen, and in the spring 204 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: of twenty fifteen, I got a text message from her phone. 205 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: I was with my friend in the carped up mom 206 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: and it was one of those inspirational messages in the 207 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: form of a meme. I'm glad my friend was there 208 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: to witness that we had disconnected mom's phone. A few 209 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: weeks after she had passed. I tried to call the 210 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: number back, assuming it was assigned to another person, and 211 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: I got the message that the phone number was not 212 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: in service. It was very strange, yet very comforting. I 213 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: do believe it was from my mom. Ari says. I 214 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: was in my living room in my house and my 215 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: mom was doing something in her room. My grandfather passed 216 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: in mid November, and my mom had kept his phone. 217 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: My mom had left her phone on the couch right 218 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: next to me, and it suddenly began to ring, and 219 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: it flashed that my grandfather's phone was calling her. I 220 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: ran to my mom and showed her the ringing phone. 221 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: She opened the drawer and my grandfather's phone was indeed 222 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: calling her. Just as she picked it up, the phone 223 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: stopped ringing. We believe it was my grandfather saying hello. 224 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: Barry says, my best friend killed himself in twenty fourteen, 225 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: and I received a call from his number. His mom 226 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: had left his phone active just so she could replay 227 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: his voicemail messages and hear his voice. On that day, 228 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: I saw his name flash across my phone, and my 229 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: stomach dropped as I went to answer it. When I did, 230 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: all I heard was my name spoken in his voice, 231 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: plain as day. I was so spooked I hung up 232 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: immediately and I cried. It felt like he was calling 233 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: me as if it was a normal day to tell 234 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: me about something that had just happened. But in retrospect, 235 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: I find it really comforting now. Jacob says, my dad 236 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: died of cancer over ten years ago. A little less 237 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: than a month after I got on my knees and 238 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: prayed for some type of a sign that there is 239 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: something after this life and that Dad was still alive. 240 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,239 Speaker 2: At three ten in the morning, I got a voicemail 241 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: from a private number. Through the static, my dad's voice 242 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: emerged and said Hello, Jacoby, which was a name only 243 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: my dad called me by. I still have that recording, 244 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: and I let my family and friends listen to it, 245 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: and we all agree that it is definitely my dad's voice. 246 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: In their nineteen seventy nine book Phone Calls from the Dead, 247 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: parapsychologists Raymond Bayliss and d Scott Rogo examine this phenomena 248 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: and great depth. They say, for as long as there 249 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: have been methods of electronic communication between the living, there 250 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: have been reports of the departed and how they are 251 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: somehow able to access these devices and make contact with 252 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: us from beyond the grave. Having looked at numerous examples 253 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: of this, the authors noted several common themes. The majority 254 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: of such contacts occurred within the first twenty four hours 255 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: of the deceased caller having passed away, although in a 256 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: limited number of cases this period could be extended for 257 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: up to two years or more. A significant number of 258 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: the callers seemed to be almost confused or disoriented for 259 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: the duration of the call, discussing subjects which were either 260 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: cryptic or irrelevant with the recipient. Quite often. The witnesses 261 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: involved report that the quality of the line was very poor, 262 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: with the words being spoken difficult to distinguish because of 263 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: static or white noise. In addition, it was common for 264 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: the voice of the speakers to be described as muffled 265 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: or metallic, sometimes sounding as if they were standing some 266 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: distance from the handset. Eventually, after analyzing and assessing the 267 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: various reports they had managed to unearth, the two scientists 268 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: formed the opinion that such calls could be divided into 269 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 2: two categories. The first of these classifications involves receiving a 270 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: call from someone who has passed away, although the caller 271 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: does not speak when the phone is answered. The second 272 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: presents as a seemingly innocuous call from a loved one, 273 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: where it is later discovered that the conversation should have 274 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: been impossible, as the friend or relative in question had 275 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: recently passed on. In the spring of nineteen sixty nine, 276 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: a young man named Carl had rented a cottage for 277 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: a weekend vacation. Upon arriving to the cottage, Carl was 278 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised to find an old fashioned telephone handset sitting 279 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: on the bedside table. But on the first evening of 280 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: his trip, he had been drifting off to sleep when 281 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: he was unexpectedly awoken by the sound of the phone 282 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: ringing insistently beside him. Half asleep and glancing at his wristwatch, 283 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: Carl could see that it was eleven fifteen pm, which 284 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: led him to believe that the call must be important. 285 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: Lifting up the handset, he was somewhat bewildered to hear 286 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: his father's voice on the other end of the line, 287 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: informing him that his mother needed to speak with him. 288 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: When he tried to ask what the issue was, his 289 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: father had continued to speak, almost as if he was 290 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: not hearing Carl's reply. The young man had become increasingly 291 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: concerned and frustrated as he was repeatedly urged to call her. 292 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: He demanded to know why his father could simply not 293 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: pass the phone over to his mother, as she should 294 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: have been there with him by his side. After a 295 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: minute or two, having made no progress, his father had 296 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: suddenly made reference to the fact that he was in 297 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: a beautiful place and then hung up, replacing the receiver. 298 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: Carl had then tried to call his parents several times 299 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: at their home phone number, only to find that the 300 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: phone on the night stand seemed unable to make outgoing calls. Irritated, 301 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: he got out of bed and searched the rest of 302 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: the cottage for another phone, only to discover that the 303 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 2: one in the bedroom appeared to be the only phone 304 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: inside the premises. Having struggled to sleep that night, Carl 305 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: had risen early the next morning and made his way 306 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: into the nearest town so he could place a call 307 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: to his parents. Upon locating a public phone booth, he 308 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: was shocked to discover from relatives that his mother was 309 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: unable to speak to him at the time, as she 310 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: was still far too upset. She had been lying in 311 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: bed with his father the previous evening when he suddenly 312 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: began to convulse, dying of a heart attack. A short 313 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: time later, on making further inquiries with the family, he 314 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: was even more unnerved to discover the time of his 315 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: father's death, which had been recorded by the attending paramedics 316 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: at exactly eleven fifteen pm. It was only afterwards, as 317 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: he had quickly packed his things back at the cottage, 318 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: that the bewildered and traumatized Karl discovered that the phone 319 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: by his bed was purely ornamental and had never been 320 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 2: connected to a working phone line. During the course of 321 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: some of these exchanges, the caller demonstrates a definite purpose 322 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: or agenda as they speak, determined to ensure that the 323 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 2: reason for their call is fully understood by the recipient. 324 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: It is during these incidents that authors Bayliss and Rogo 325 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: noticed the highest percentage of distorted or robotic speech patterns 326 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: reported by witnesses. It's interesting, as I told you my 327 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: EVP story in the last segment, hearing that word robotic. 328 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: When you listen to electronic voice phenomena and our deceased 329 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: loved ones rearrange the sounds of rain drops or a 330 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: fan in the background, or whatever white noise it is, 331 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: the voices do seem distorted and robotic. Could it be 332 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: the same intelligence when they're making one of these phone calls. 333 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 2: When examining these cases, it seems easy to dismiss the 334 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: idea of people being contacted by the dead. Often it 335 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: is alleged that the person receiving the call must have 336 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 2: been tired or mistaken about what they heard on the line. 337 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: Sometimes they're explained as dreams or the product of an 338 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 2: overactive imagination. The fact that in most cases there's no 339 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: tangible evidence to prove the call ever took place offers 340 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: no lead and find out the truth of this matter. 341 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: Witnesses have reported that the dead have phoned them from 342 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: withheld or private numbers, sometimes from phone numbers they recognize 343 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: or already saved in their device, but examination of call 344 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: histories and phone bill files never show any record of 345 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: these communications, which only further undermines the testimony of those 346 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 2: reporting them. But this does not necessarily prove that the 347 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: witness didn't experience something strange. Authors Baylis and Rogo say 348 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: that in these occurrences, although no real phone call takes place, 349 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: the spirits of the dead may merely be manipulating communication 350 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: devices to give the impression that a call was received. 351 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: Some commentators have attempted to tie these experiences to other phenomena. 352 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: For instance, a middle aged woman traveling through Nebraska one 353 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: evening observed a strange object in the skins eyes. Just 354 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: as she returned home, her phone began to ring. The 355 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: man who spoke to her on the other end of 356 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: the line had a metallic, robotic toned to his voice 357 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: and identified himself as Roger. When she informed him that 358 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: she didn't know anybody by that name, he told her 359 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: that he was her brother and then hung up. The woman, 360 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: who was an only child, shrugged the incident off as 361 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: a wrong number, but some years later she learned, long 362 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: before she was born, her mother had given birth to 363 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: a stillborn baby boy. His name was Roger. If the 364 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: spirits of the dead can manifest themselves physically to their 365 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: loved ones using ADC's after death communications that we so 366 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 2: often talk about, leaving no trace of their appearance, then 367 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: why should they not be able to do the same 368 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: utilizing our current technology. Recipients received comfort as if it's 369 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: one final chance to speak with their love ones and 370 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: give them hope that they survive after death. Now, if 371 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: you're anything like me, when I see a phone call 372 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: from an unidentified number, I tend to think it's spam 373 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: or somebody who's solicitor. But could it just be from 374 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 2: someone we don't expect calling from across the veil. It's 375 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: time to go into our next break and then we'll 376 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: be back with some more stories. You're listening to Shades 377 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 378 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 379 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain, continue to explore phone calls from the deceased. 380 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: This story is from Bonnie. My grandparents died in a 381 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: fire in their home this past Thanksgiving. I was very 382 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: close with my grandmother and it had been very traumatizing 383 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: for us all. Several weeks later, my mom received a 384 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: call on her cell phone from my grandparents' house phone 385 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: while she was at work, and unfortunately she couldn't answer. 386 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: That very same night, I received a call from my 387 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: grandmother's cell phone. It disconnected after twenty five seconds. I 388 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: started calling it often, and usually nothing happened. Recently, I 389 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: was having a particularly hard time when I got the 390 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: urge to call her cell phone. This time it connected. 391 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: I heard static, but then it disconnected after twenty five seconds. 392 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: I was holding the phone and staring at it in 393 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 2: disbelief when I began to receive text messages from her 394 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: cell number. The first text simply said my name, and 395 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: a few blank messages were sent. Then she said she 396 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: had no voice, couldn't speak, and loved me very much. 397 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: No more messages came through. It was then I had 398 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: a full blown crying meltdown. It was shocking. My grandmother 399 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: never texted. She was unable to. She had an old 400 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: flip phone that was destroyed in the fire. The number 401 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: was still hers, it was not disconnected. I ended up 402 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: finding a medium to connect with my grandmother, and the 403 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: medium told me, not knowing any information, that my grandmother 404 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: was trying to reach me on the telephone. My mom 405 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: and my family can't seem to accept that this is possible, 406 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: but in my world, I believe she has contacted me, 407 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: and my life is definitely better for it. Stacy says, 408 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: less than a week after my mom passed, I was 409 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: driving and my cell phone rang and I saw Mom 410 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: on the screen. It was a call from her cell phone. 411 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: I stared at it for a bit and thought maybe 412 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: my dad or my sister had the phone, so I 413 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: picked it up and said hello. There was only silence 414 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: and kind of a crackly static for around three minutes 415 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: before the call ended. Neither my dad or sister had 416 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 2: touched the phone. Although I never heard her voice, I 417 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: really believe it was Mom reaching out from the other side. 418 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: Kent says my best friend's boyfriend overdosed in his sleep, 419 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: and for the next three months she received phone calls 420 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: from his canceled phone number, and although the first call 421 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: was super soul crushing to her, the more they came 422 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: in the more comfort they brought her. Eventually these phone calls, 423 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: but she came to the conclusion that he was safe 424 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: and happy in his new home in Heaven. Kay says, 425 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: my grandmother's phone called me three times the week after 426 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: she died. My family just brushed it off as maybe 427 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: it was the cat stepping on the phone, as Grandma 428 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: had me on speed dial. But I was so close 429 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: to my grandmother. I felt in my heart it was 430 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: her giving me a sign. Mike says, after my oldest 431 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: brother died, I really wanted to talk to him, and 432 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: I called out to him. That night, which was about 433 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: a month after his death, he came to me in 434 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: a dream. It was very dark, but I could still 435 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: see him clearly, and the first thing I noticed was 436 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: all of his tattoos were gone. He was smiling, told 437 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: me he was okay, and to let my grandmother know 438 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: he was okay. My grandmother died around three months after 439 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: this dream. I asked him if he could see us, 440 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: and he said sometimes. We exchanged a few other words, 441 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: and suddenly everything got darker and I felt like he 442 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: had to go. I told him that I love him 443 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: and I really miss him, and he replied, I love 444 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: you too, boy, but I'm always with you. And when 445 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: I woke up, I saw a mist hovering over me 446 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: that suddenly vanished. Vivian says, a few months after my 447 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: father died, one night, I felt like I spoke with 448 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: him on the phone. At the time, I thought I 449 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: had been dreaming, but I remember it so well as 450 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: if it happened yesterday. My father was the only person 451 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: who called me viv in this dream that wasn't a dream. 452 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: The phone rang and answered it and said hello, Hello, VIVI, 453 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: my father's voice said to me. But I knew that 454 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: it couldn't be him. He was dead. Who is this talking? 455 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: I said, viv you know who this is, don't you? 456 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: He said, who is this? I asked again. I couldn't 457 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: bear to say his name, as I missed him so much. Now, VIVI, 458 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: you know who this is? He said again, Daddy? Can 459 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: that really be you? I finally called him daddy, And 460 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: when I said his name, I didn't hear another word, 461 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: as if I had acknowledged who it was, and that's 462 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: all I needed to hear. I don't recall hearing the 463 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: phone click, but there was silence. I believe, just as 464 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: sure as I am standing here, that my father was 465 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: talking to me. You and I know that death and 466 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: loss are highly significant events, and these can affect our dreams. 467 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 2: We're so used to having these people in our life 468 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: that when we get to the dream world, we interact 469 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: with them. However, from our past episodes on dreams, including 470 00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: lucid dreaming, most dreams of our loved ones simply fade away. 471 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: We wake up and we don't remember our dreams. I believe, 472 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: as well as many experts, that those dreams that you 473 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: can still recall to this day are actual dream visitations, 474 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: not unlike near death experiences that are as crystal clear 475 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: to the experiencer as if they just happened today. Tracy 476 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: lost her husband, Luke, from a pulmonary embolism while he 477 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: was undergoing treatment for lung cancer. Luke was in the 478 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: habit of phoning his wife often during his stay in 479 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: the hospital. Sometimes he even rang her in the middle 480 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: of the night because the prospect of dying scared him. 481 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: His wife would reassure him that he was being well 482 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: looked after in the hospital and that he would be 483 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: home soon. Unfortunately, Luke lost his battle with the illness 484 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: and passed away suddenly. They buried him on the thirteenth 485 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: of December. One of the possessions they placed in the 486 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: coffin with him was his cell phone. Around two weeks 487 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: after Luke died, Tracy says, I began to receive missed 488 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: calls in the middle of the night, apparently from Luke. 489 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: Something always made me wake up to see my phone 490 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: screen flashing miss call Luke. I rang the number back 491 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: straight away, knowing full well that his phone was buried. Obviously, 492 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: the phone went direct to a message saying this phone 493 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: is switched off, Please try later. I was able to 494 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: show several witnesses at the time these mist calls, and 495 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: they probably thought I was crazy. However, on Christmas Day, 496 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: the last missed call came in in the middle of 497 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: the night. Following this call, all the Luke mist call 498 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: data that it's automatically stored on my phone disappeared, despite 499 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: me having shown other people the record of it. Tiffany says, 500 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: I got a dream call, perhaps the most lucid dream 501 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: I have ever had. It was one day after my 502 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: best friend from high school passed away from a car accident. 503 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: We were eighteen and had just graduated. My cell phone 504 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: rang I answered and heard Hey. I knew it was 505 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: his voice. He said, tiff do you know who this is? 506 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: I said, yes, but it can't be you. You're dead. 507 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: How are you doing this? He said, I'm using your grandparents' landline. 508 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 2: That's exactly where I was living at the time. So 509 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: I jumped out of bed, opened my bedroom door, expecting 510 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: to see the phone being used in some capacity, but 511 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: it sat there motionless on the receiver while I talked 512 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: to my dead best friend. I said to him, Chad, 513 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: you're scaring me, at which point he said to me, 514 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: don't be scared. I'm just using my energy to call 515 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: you through their phone because I need you to know 516 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: that I am okay, I am not hurting, and you 517 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: need to keep an eye on Heather, who was our 518 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: mutual best friend, because she's not handling this very well 519 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: and you have to keep her from getting messed up 520 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: with that boy she's dating. Then he said, do you 521 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 2: have any questions for me? I said, I love you. 522 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: He said, I love you too. You don't want to 523 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: ask me anything, So I asked, what's it like? He answered, 524 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: sometimes it's really cool and sometimes it's really warm, but 525 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: for the most part, it's perfect. Then we said I 526 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: love you one more time. And even after I woke up, 527 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: the dream was so clear I swear it really happened. 528 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: Although it might have been a dream, I am convinced 529 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: that it was a visit from Chad. Junior says, my 530 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: dad's cell phone rang one week after he passed. He 531 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 2: was on my cell phone account and I hadn't gotten 532 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 2: around to canceling the line. I heard the phone ringing. 533 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 2: I followed it into my mom's room, then to her dresser, 534 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: and on top of the dresser there were two small 535 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: drawers to keep small things like rings and jewelry, and 536 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: Mom had placed Dad's phone in there. I opened the 537 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: drawer with the phone that was ringing. I picked it 538 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: up and it was still lit. It was an old 539 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: Motorola flip phone. And what's so weird is it showed 540 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: the number as the same phone I was about to answer. 541 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: When I picked it up. It hung up immediately. Nothing 542 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 2: else happened around my father's death except that one incident 543 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: a week after he died, but that was more than 544 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 2: enough for me to know he was still around. Katie says, 545 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 2: after my favorite Aunt Pat died, my phone kept getting 546 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 2: FaceTime calls from her phone number, and every single time 547 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: the phone would ring, I would see a hummingbird. This 548 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: happened maybe five or six times, and I believe that's 549 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: the sign that Aunt Pat is still with me. Hadley says, 550 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 2: ten hours after my mom passed, I received a text 551 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: from her cell phone. All it said was I love you, 552 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 2: proud of you. I immediately knew everything was good with her. 553 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 2: We'll be heading off into our next break, but when 554 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: we come back, we'll have some more stories telephone calls 555 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: from the deceased, and also some words from some of 556 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: our favorite people, including thoughts on the afterlife from inventor 557 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 2: Thomas Edison. Will be right back. You're listening to Shades 558 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 2: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 559 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 560 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain and we're talking about phone calls with 561 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: the deceased. Let's go back in time. You know the 562 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: name Thomas Alva Edison. Born in eighteen forty seven, passed 563 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty one. He is probably the most famous 564 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: inventor in history, holding almost eleven hundred patents from the 565 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 2: early inventions of the light bulb and the phonograph, the 566 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 2: motion picture camera, electric power. But did you know he 567 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: was working on a death machine. It sounds far fetched, 568 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: but it's a way to communicy with people here on 569 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 2: earth from loved ones in the spirit world. It was 570 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 2: not far fetched at the time. You see. Edison lived 571 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: in a time when spirituality was a big thing. There 572 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 2: was this spiritualist movement, there was ghost photography featuring ectoplasm 573 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 2: ouiji boards, seances, floating tables, tapping, and knocks and bangs 574 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: coming from around the room. In the twenties, there may 575 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: have been eight million people interested in spiritualism, especially following 576 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: the horrors of World War One and the great loss 577 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 2: of life. It's totally understandable that people were looking for 578 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: ways to communicate with their loved ones. Unfortunately, this also 579 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 2: gave rise to so many phony mediums trying to profit 580 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 2: off those grieving. Edison hypothesized that if we do indeed 581 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 2: survive death, then the instrumentation which is designed to establish 582 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: contact with the dead must be compiled of extremely sensitive 583 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: components to help these subtle electrons which the dead are 584 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 2: made of, to manipulate or tap into the physical matter 585 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: of this world in order for communication to be established. 586 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 2: Here's some words by Thomas Edison. The electron theory gives 587 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 2: us a reply which is wholly satisfactory. I have had 588 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 2: the matter roughly calculated, and have at hand the data 589 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 2: of the calculation. I am sure that a highly organized 590 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 2: entity consisting of millions of electrons, yet still remaining too 591 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: small to be visible through any existing microscope, is possible. Now, 592 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: he said that in nineteen twenty when asked on his 593 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 2: views of life in death. A telephone requires electricity in 594 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: order for it to function. Therefore, if we do survive 595 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: death and manage to call the living by some means, 596 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 2: then the electrons inside the telephone would need to be 597 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: manipulated to enable the telephone to ring in order for 598 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: someone to answer it. Although Thomas Edison never completed his 599 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 2: machine to communicate between life and death, and one hundred 600 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 2: years later no one has perfected it doesn't mean it's 601 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: not possible. In the past, we've heard from doctor Mark 602 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: Pittstick on the board of the Soul Phone, also the 603 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: great Sonia Ronaldi, who captures voices and pictures of those 604 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: in the afterlife. It's just a matter of time, my 605 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: friend and I think they'll be more communication with the 606 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 2: other side. Remember, energy cannot be destroyed. Most of the 607 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 2: things in this universe are invisible to our eyes, but 608 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: very real, and two or more forms of energy can 609 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 2: be living at the same place at the exact same 610 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 2: time as you sit, or stand or walk, listening to 611 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 2: shades of the afterlife right now now around you could 612 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 2: be cell phone signals, GPS signals, Wi Fi signals, music, 613 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: television signals, and so much more. Yes, it's one hundred 614 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 2: percent possible that our loved ones exist in this same space, 615 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 2: invisible to our eyes, but very very real. Next two 616 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 2: more of my favorite people, which are Coast to Coast 617 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 2: AM's host George Nori and the late great author Rosemary 618 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 2: Ellen Guiley. Together in twenty twelve, they published a book 619 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 2: called Talking to the Dead, which you may enjoy adding 620 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: to your library. In it, they talk about technology, strange 621 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 2: signals that come from the other world, Edison's telephone to 622 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: the spirit world, the birth of electronic voice, phenomena, spiricom 623 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 2: life in the afterlife, and much more. I want to 624 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: read just a little bit talking about phone call from 625 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 2: the deceased. Imagine George Nori reading this to you now. 626 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: Nighttime radio is the perfect confessional. Every night as host 627 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: of Coast to Coast AM, I hear it all. Meetings 628 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: with the dead, out of body journeys, encounters with aliens 629 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: and entities, prophetic dreams, miracles, you name it, about the strange, 630 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 2: we get it nightly. One of the most popular topics 631 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: that people cannot seem to hear enough about or talk 632 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: enough about, is contact with the dead. Almost everyone has 633 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 2: a story about a time when they felt visited or 634 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: contacted by someone who had passed over. Perhaps the experience 635 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: was comforting, perhaps it was unsettling. Either way, it was 636 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 2: definitely unforgettable and maybe even life changing. On this night, 637 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 2: Rosemary Ellen Guilee has joined me in the studio to 638 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 2: talk especially about communication with the dead, and take calls 639 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: on open life lines. We know it's going to be 640 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 2: an active night. Some nights are just like that. You 641 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 2: can feel a charge in the air, like the coast 642 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 2: to coast audience has linked up in a particular energized group. Mind. 643 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,479 Speaker 2: My producer Tom dan Heiser can feel it too. Tom 644 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 2: screens the calls. Sometimes the phone lines are hot even 645 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: before we start taking the calls. After we talk for 646 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 2: a few minutes about Rosemary's latest research in spirit communications, 647 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: we open the lines. They are already full with people 648 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 2: wanting to tell their stories about talking to the dead. 649 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 2: Beth East of Rockies I said to the first caller, 650 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 2: you're on the air, George. Beth sounded hesitant. Go ahead, Beth, 651 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: You're on the air. Yes, okay, thank you. I'm so 652 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 2: glad you're doing this subject and I want to tell 653 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 2: you and Rosemary, what happened to me. There is a 654 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 2: brief pause, and we can almost hear Beth taking a 655 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 2: big breath to plunge ahead on what must be a 656 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 2: difficult topic. Beth continued, my dad died several years ago 657 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: in a car accident. It was a big shock to 658 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: everyone in our family, and her voice broke with emotion. 659 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: I had a hard time dealing with it. She took 660 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 2: a moment to compose herself. But here's the weird part. 661 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 2: She says, about three weeks after he was gone, I 662 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 2: think he called me on the phone. Rosemary nods to 663 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 2: me in the studio. We've both heard these types of 664 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 2: stories many times. He called you on the phone. I 665 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: said to Beth, tell us what happened. I was at 666 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 2: home by myself one day. It was in the afternoon. 667 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 2: The phone rang, and I thought it sounded strange. I mean, 668 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 2: it didn't have its usual ring. It sounded kind of distorted. 669 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: I thought maybe there was something going wrong with the 670 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 2: phone line. When I picked up the receiver and said hello, 671 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 2: I could hear a lot of static. It reminded me 672 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 2: of how long distance calls used to sound, you know, 673 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 2: like they were coming from very far away with lots 674 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 2: of interference on the line. I didn't hear any voices 675 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 2: at first, and I said hello two or three times, 676 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 2: and then this voice called out, Beth, Beth, is that you? 677 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,240 Speaker 2: And it sounded just like my dad. I'm not making 678 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 2: this up. I'd know his voice anywhere. What did you 679 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: say back, I asked. I was so shocked I couldn't 680 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 2: say anything. He repeated, Beth, is that you? I said, Dad, 681 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 2: is that you? I was practically shouting. He just kept repeating, Beth, Beth, Beth. 682 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 2: The static sound got worse, and his voice fainter and fainter, 683 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: and then it just stopped. I kept shouting into the 684 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 2: phone for him to come back, and there was nothing 685 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 2: but static, and the line just went dead, like someone 686 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 2: pulled the chord out of the wall. I hung up 687 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 2: the phone and then picked it up again, and the 688 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 2: dial tone was normal. I was pretty shook up for 689 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 2: the rest of the day. In fact, I still am 690 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 2: if I think about it. I keep telling myself it 691 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: was a fluke, a wrong number, and it was a 692 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 2: man who sounded just like my dad, but he called 693 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: me by name, Rosemary. What do you make of this? 694 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 2: I said, Do you think Beth might have really talked 695 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 2: to her father and was he calling from the other side. 696 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: It's quite possible, she answered. There is a phenomena literally 697 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 2: called phone calls from the dead or anomalous telephone contacts, 698 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 2: and it has been documented just about as long as 699 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 2: the telephone has been in existence. Under certain circumstances, the 700 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 2: dead seemed to be able to access our phone technology 701 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 2: and make calls to the living. Many of them are 702 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: just like Beth described. They are full of static, but 703 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 2: the voice of the dead person is recognizable. Most phone 704 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 2: calls from the dead are very short, less than a minute, 705 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 2: although a few longer ones have been documented, and I 706 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,240 Speaker 2: can think of one from parapsychology literature that was reported 707 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 2: to last about thirty minutes. There are so many stories 708 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 2: in this book that's called Talking to the Dead by 709 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 2: George Nori and Rosemary Ellen Guiy. Do you find that 710 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 2: these stories help you, let you see what's possible, perhaps 711 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 2: make you want to answer an unknown phone call. You 712 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 2: too may have a story, and I welcome your stories. 713 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 2: You don't need to be famous, you don't need to 714 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 2: have a book published, just you being a real human 715 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 2: being with your experiences, your signs. Perhaps you've received some 716 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 2: communication through a text or a phone call. Perhaps you've 717 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 2: had something interesting happen with electricity or some other sign 718 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 2: from your loved one. If you have a story, I'd 719 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: love to hear it, and I'd love to share it 720 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 2: with fellow listeners. We have a Facebook group. If you 721 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: go to my website, we Don't Die dot com, just 722 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 2: click on Facebook group. You can share your experience there. Also, 723 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: while you're there, don't forget to sign up for our 724 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 2: free Sunday gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included. But 725 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 2: if you feel more comfortable emailing me Easy to remember 726 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 2: Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com. I hope you never 727 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 2: forget that there's more to life than meets the eye, 728 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 2: and there's more to you than you know. Here's some 729 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 2: words by Albert Einstein. When something vibrates, the electrons of 730 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 2: the entire universe resonate with it. Everything is connected. The 731 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: greatest tragedy of human existence is the illusion of separateness. 732 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 2: Our separation from each other is an optical illusion. If 733 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 2: you're an afterlife warrior, you can take my challenge. Listen 734 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 2: to all episodes of Shades of the Afterlife and see 735 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 2: if that changes your view a bit about life, death, 736 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 2: the afterlife, and who you really are a divine soul 737 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 2: having a human experience. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so 738 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 2: much for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the 739 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast a paranormal podcast network. 740 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 741 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: Day and paranormal podcast network. Make sure and check out 742 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,439 Speaker 1: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 743 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio dot com.