1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Once upon a time I just thought about giving up 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: on everything. But once he put that fight up and 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: showed me, it's like, hey, like I can make it 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: here anything I want to do. I'm all excited things 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna come back home and you know, I'm 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna tell him the good news. And like the same 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: day I signed, like, you know, like my mom called me, like, hey, 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: like your brother just passed. I always been told I 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: was too small, being called it has been. I end 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: up going to Pitch State. He ended up transferring schools, 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: and you know, I showed him it was the has 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: been when we played him again. Welcome into the lounge 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: for another week with another great guests. Yeah, this is 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: a guy that's been blowing up the practice field. Everyone's 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: excited to talk to him, score a touchdown, and most 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: recent preseason game against the Colts, all arrows are pointing 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: up on this guy. Wide receiver John Brown. Yeah, I 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: thought I didn't know if you're gonna say drive round 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: keep saying this guy, Well, people know what it is. 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: You know, I don't need to like it, says the 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: headline on the actual podcast. So there's not really like 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: this big surprise moment. So let's go ahead and jumping 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: into our interview with wide receiver John Brown. Well, we 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: are thrilled to have the toast of the town. Everybody's 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: talking about this guy Brown. But you know everybody wants 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: in one of this on their fantasy team, myself included. 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: My draft is coming up. John. I'm just saying you 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: are my mid round guy, all right, And I only 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: say mid round last because you're a bargain. Nobody's I 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: take you in the first, but you know, I feel 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: like I can probably get you late. But that's it. 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: Here's our mission today. Okay. Because you're a pretty quiet guy, John, 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: that we've noticed this your little self spoken, so we 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: want to get you to open up during this interview, 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: have a little fun. Do you think that we will 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: be successful in our mission? Yes? All we like that. 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: All right, So we'll start with an easy one. What 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: do you think of Baltimore? I mean, I'm enjoying it. 39 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean I haven't been anywhere really, but just the organization. 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it and I'm having fun. Where. Why haven't 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: you been around town? I've just been focusing on making 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: plays right now, alright, I mean I guess that's a 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: pretty good. Exist, that's pretty good. Are you are your 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: seafood guy? There? Are you gonna? Oh? Yeah, of course. 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm big on sea crabs. You know how to pick 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: a crab? No, I don't, but I tried. I've been struggling. 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: I went to Jimmy. Um yeah, I kind of scruggle 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: with did you have someone teaching you? Because that's the 49 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: first thing when I did it for the first time, 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: Like the waiter actually came and like showed me the ropes. 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Did you have anybody to give you a trial? They 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: showed me. But I'm still scruggling, so I'll get Well, 53 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: here's the thing, too, is you don't want to cut 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: your hands. I mean, your your livelihood is your hands. 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: You started getting the cuts with the old bay in 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: there starts to sting a little bit. And here's a 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: here's a difference, Son, John is tougher than you are. Well, 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: that's true. So John, we want to you know, there's 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: always uncertainty and free agency, you know, in picking the 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: team teams. What was it did you feel like in 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: the end that made you say, you know what, I 62 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: want to come to Baltimore. Um, well, maybe decide Baltimore. 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: You know, great friends with Tony Jefferson. We played in 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Arizona together. You know, he had a lot of great 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: things to say about, you know, this organization and also 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, looking at the Super Bowl MVP, most people 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: don't get the chance to play with a quarterback like that. 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: So you know, I just took advantage of the opportunity. 69 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Was it? You know, I kind of want to dive 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: into that process for you, like, was it. It's easy 71 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: when you have a friend that says, hey, I'll vouch 72 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: for this team in this organization and all that in Tony, 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: but were you struggling with the decision? It's moving from 74 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: one part of the country to the other. Um, just 75 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: take to that like thought process. How many teams were 76 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: you talking to at that time? Yeah, it was kind 77 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: of a scruggle. You know, I was only talking, uh 78 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: three teams, well two at the time. I was talking 79 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: to Buffalo Bills and the Oakland Raiders. And you know, 80 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: as soon as I was about this side to go 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: with Oakland, that's when Baltimore called. So we just yeah, 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: so you know I kind of like held back, and 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: you know I thought about it was kind of tough, 84 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: what decision I wanted to make and you know, also 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: they basically got rid of the whole receiving room, so 86 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like it'll be a fresh start 87 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: and you know, like a fair opportunity. So you've talked 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: a little bit before about the one year deal and 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: wanting to do that. I'm curious, like when you started 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: free agency, did you say one year deal wherever you go? 91 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: What's wherever you go, it's gonna be a one year deal, 92 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: or did you or when teams started throwing out multi 93 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: year deals, like, you know what, I don't like that deal. 94 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for the one year. I mean we've 95 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: met my age and talked about it even in the 96 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: middle of the season last year, and you know, like 97 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, he was honest with me, like, you know, 98 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: most teams are gonna off for a one year deal 99 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: because of the situation, and I was totally fine with that. 100 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: But you know, actually looked up and you know, Buffalo 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: off of me a three year but I turned it down. Wow, 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Like I didn't want it because you just felt like 103 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: long term will be better to do the one year 104 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: play here cash in after you go off the season, 105 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: like we're already we like that. So I'm as curious 106 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: as to you know what happened with Arizona, because I 107 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: look at it. You know, you put up a thousand yards, 108 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, and then and then it gives the five 109 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: seven teams like, how are you not a starter after 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: a thousand? I don't get it. How did that happen? Uh? 111 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's just tough. You know that 112 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: the situation I rather not talk about. I rather just 113 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: leave it where is that? You know, it's different reasons. 114 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: How much you how much does that motivate you now 115 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: to show you know, by all, you know you're gonna 116 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: be a starter here right, you're gonna be a top 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: one of the top guys here. You and Crab and Willie, 118 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna be the top of the How 119 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: much does it motivated you to say to the league, 120 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a starting caliber guy. Oh? You know, 121 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: like I've always been the underdog. You know, It's always 122 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: been something you know, people try to figure out and 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: try to say, always too small, he can't do this, 124 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: he can't do that, you know, And you know I 125 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: was just you know, like I said, like I wanted 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: to bet on myself and you know, show people and 127 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned me crab Willie, and you know 128 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: you can't forget about Chris Moore to do, who made 129 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: a lot of plays in this camp too. So it's 130 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: just it's all exciting. So you talk about your basically 131 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: kind of being down for fans that don't know your 132 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: path to the NFL. You went from Morris Hill, then 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: you went to coffee Ville Community College, and at coffee 134 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: though you weren't actually in playing the games, you were 135 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: playing in practice. And then from there you got noticed 136 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: and practice and went to Pittsburgh State. Do you ever 137 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: think about that path. There's not too many guys that 138 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: went from the There's not the Morris Hill, coffee Ville 139 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Community College coffee at the community college you were getting 140 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: in games. Hold on a second, that that part is true. 141 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: He wasn't lying that word. I did my research research, 142 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: and um the thing with that was, you know, back 143 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: then when I was out there, it was um only 144 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: a twelve man out of state rule, okay, And you 145 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: know they broke down the towel man out of state 146 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: rule and the coach told me like, oh, we we 147 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: got ninety people already, and you know, I was still confident, 148 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm gonna make the team. Like I 149 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: knew I was gonna make the team. I came to practice, 150 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: I worked every day, even though I felt like I 151 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: didn't get my fear shot out. I know I was 152 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: supposed to make the team. You know, I was the 153 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: third team guy. I got cut. I was the last 154 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: person to get cut. But you know, I continued to 155 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: steal practice, you know, just because I was going through 156 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: the situation at the time. My brother was still living, 157 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, after the gunshot wounds whatever, he was still living, 158 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I just wanted to get something to 159 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: keep me motivated. And then, you know the time Pittsburgh 160 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: State came to practice and they've seen what I was doing, 161 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, like we're want to offer 162 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: you a full scholarship. And you know, at the time, 163 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, oh, I want to go to Vision one. 164 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: And then you know, it's actually funny because the coach. 165 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: I knew this coach wanted me bad. But you know, 166 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: like my trust was so messed up at the time. 167 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: Like he was driving when it was like two inches 168 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: or snow, like forty five minutes away. He would drive 169 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't come out of the room. He came 170 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: like three times and I just won't show up, but 171 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: like for some reason, he wouldn't never give up. And 172 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: then you know, like I'm still thankful to that. You 173 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: know that he put his trust in me. He is 174 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: persistent us in this interview, right, this is your coach 175 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: at coffee who is yes and we um we had 176 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: a coach. Coach Garman was the recruiter and you know, 177 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: like coach Gorman is he's at the age he's like 178 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: seventy something, and you know, in the back of my head, 179 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, you believe somebody that's old, like you know, 180 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: like give me a poor scholarship and you know, like, 181 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: but it was crazy, but you know, they believed in 182 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: me and they trusted in me, and when I came 183 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: to I did everything I was supposed to do. Is 184 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: there anyone else you played with any of those spots 185 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL? Um at Coffeeville, Quinn Pattam, he's in 186 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. My best friend DeVante Boss we played with 187 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Now he went with me with Pitt State. Yeah, 188 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: and you know that's it. So how much did you 189 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: say that that's still drives you today? Like do you 190 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: eventually outgrow that or is it something that stills in 191 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: the back of your mind, like, you know what, I 192 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: gotta kind of I gotta show people. I gotta fight 193 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: for it, you know, always you know, like I got 194 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: a daughter to take him. You know, it's been. You know, 195 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: I always been told I was too small, been called 196 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: the has been, you know, like has been? How old 197 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: are you? How do you get it has at least stage? 198 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: I was old, he's old, he told Yeah, you know, 199 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: the coach at Caffrevielle he called me a has been. 200 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I end up going to Pitch State. 201 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: He ended up transferring schools, and you know I showed 202 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: him who was the has been when we played him 203 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: again like that. I feel like that is just going 204 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: to come out. You know, we play some teams this year. 205 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: I like to see that. You also say, you know, 206 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: the two small thing. I feel like people have also said, 207 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: you know, well he's a burner. You know, it's just 208 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: easy when you're really fasten you run what you did 209 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: in the forty combine, uh to just say, well he's 210 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: a speed guy, that's it. And I feel like training 211 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: camp here, you've shared a lot more than that. I mean, 212 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: when you like went up and made a play over 213 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: like Jimmy Smith, and I'm like, wait a second, he 214 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: was too small? Is this tall and he's going over 215 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: top of him to make plays? I was like, wow, 216 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: Like you've showed me a lot and coaches here. Just 217 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: is that something that you feel like is also something 218 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: that you've had to prove the peoples that always been there. 219 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: Have you developed it moreover your career or what I mean? 220 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: It's always been there. I mean even when you played 221 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: the Arizona film, the college film, high school film, Like 222 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: I was always a guy that tries to get up 223 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: and attack the ball, you know, I try to play 224 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: bigger than what I am and you know like that 225 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: that's always been my mindset. So you grew up in Hampstead, Florida. 226 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: We want to talk about you personally, homestead home set. 227 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: I did my resource, I got all right, and your 228 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: family didn't grow up with much of whole story. You 229 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: wrote a great place piece of the players tribute about 230 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: you and your brother James, when you were kids playing 231 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: ball for a little bit of money. Tell us this story, 232 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: oh man, Like we we got plenty of stories, you know, 233 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, we was just young at the time. And 234 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's where I kind of like 235 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: grew my heart. You know. We had fifteen at the time, 236 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: playing against guys like one years old, and you know, 237 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: like you know, my brother will be like, hey, like 238 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: we need to make some money, like we need some 239 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: food in the house. And you know, like I used 240 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: to come to a time I'm like who we're playing, 241 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: Like you know, I always wanted to know who he 242 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: was playing first, and then like he named these people 243 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh no, like I think, like I'm 244 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: just chill out on this one. Yeah, there was up 245 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: the age. But then you know, like he always had 246 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: this talk, and you know, it's still stick with me 247 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: the day, like man, like listen, like we need you 248 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: like no matter what, like we can't win without you. 249 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: So like we go out there like we played and 250 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: like we're playing like tim doll ahead, so everybody putting 251 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: ten dollars in like whoever win, and there wasn't no 252 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: time only but we're just alright, the first one, the 253 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: thirty five points and sometimes the game will go on 254 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: for five hours, like five hours great like and we're 255 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: playing in like concrete in the middle of the rope, 256 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: and you know, we're playing touch. So I mean we 257 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: were playing until like it was pitch black, and like 258 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: we'll leave, you know, just get the money back. We'll 259 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: leave and then when school was out, we'll come back 260 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: and we'll finish the game. And you know, like we 261 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: took a couple of losses and you know we wanted 262 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: a lot too though, but you know, I think that 263 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: what built me to this day. Also. But if you say, 264 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: you know one thing I think it's so cool is 265 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: basically like a lot of your friends would get the 266 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: money and they would go by candy or whatever it was. 267 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: But you guys were literally bringing home and say basically 268 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: like here's our contribution to the family. Oh yeah, you 269 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: know we would do that. You know most of our 270 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: like most of our friends already you know they was living, 271 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, good enough, so you know they'll put their 272 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: money in to shoes and stuff like that. You know, 273 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: most of them had calls. But you know we were 274 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: like investing, like trying to help the family. But you 275 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: know it was it was all worth there and you know, 276 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: if I could do it again, I'll do it all 277 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: a little. So your brother James tragically when you're twenty 278 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: years old, and you mentioned this with just a little 279 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: bit earlier, he's shot and dies. Um obviously the traggy. 280 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are so close. How does that 281 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: moment at that time, when you're twenty years old shape 282 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: you and just completely alter your entire life? You know, 283 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: actually know me at the time because you know that 284 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: was somebody I was real close with, and you know, 285 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: just being at the wrong place at the wrong time, 286 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: and you know, like we had dreams and stuff, you know, 287 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: like to go to the NFL and things like that, 288 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: and you know, just like seeing him put up a 289 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: fight for nine months, you know, not able to walk talk, 290 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: and you know, like if he could do that, like 291 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I didn't made it through anything. And 292 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: so you know, like once upon the time I just 293 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: thought about giving up on everything, But once he put 294 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: that fight up and showed me, it's like, hey, like 295 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: I can't make it anything I want to do. So 296 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, like that's what gave me that extra push, 297 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: you know when I'm out there tied, that what motivates 298 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: me and keep me going. Do you remember what you 299 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: were saying to him at that time. I mean you 300 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: were still i'm sure talking to him as much as 301 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: he could to communicate, Like what were you telling him? Look, man, 302 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it big. Oh yeah, I used to 303 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: tell him all the time. You know, I'm like listen, like, 304 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: I know we promised, op Mom, I know what I 305 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: said we was gonna do. You know, I'm gonna do 306 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: it for the both of us. And you know, I 307 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: told him I was gonna go back to school, and 308 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: you know I did it even though times were tough. 309 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: And you know that that's another reason what made me 310 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: pick on Pitch State. You know, I wanted to be 311 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: far away from everybody, you know, just to clear my head. 312 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: And then you know, once I went to Pitch State, 313 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: I found a second home. M how much of the 314 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: conversation when you would talk with him was about football? Oh? 315 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: It was always about football. That's the That's the only thing. 316 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: He wanted to talk to me about football. Like everything 317 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: was football. If he didn't want me to play with him, 318 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: it was like football, you know, like, oh, like, man, 319 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait we make it to the NFL. Or 320 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, like every time we played against each other 321 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: it was an argument or something like, you know, we 322 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: played like we didn't even know each other. So so 323 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: when all this is going on, and he is for 324 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: nine months basically hanging on. You were back at for 325 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: part of that time. You went back to to coffee though, 326 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: and so you know how difficult was that time and 327 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: where you actually I mean, is that what you're thinking about? 328 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: Basically saying, if he's there, I gotta keep pushing for 329 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: the opportunity, cause I gotta believe that a lot of 330 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: people in that situation would have just said I'm done 331 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: with ball No at the um at the time, it was, um, yeah, 332 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: I was at Cafe Real, you know, so I was 333 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: barely like seeing them. You know, I would come home 334 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: and embrace the see him, but you know, I was 335 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: just trying like so much like the you know, make 336 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: it through. I end up losing like thirty pounds, you know, yeah, 337 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: I lost a lot of weight. And then you know, 338 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: like I guess he hung on. And once I decided 339 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: to sign my country with Pits State, you know, like 340 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm all excited things like I'm gonna come back home 341 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm telling the good news. And like 342 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: the same day I signed, like you know, like my 343 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: mom called me, like, hey, like your brother just passed, 344 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, like and you know, I'm telling my mom 345 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: like I just signed my country at whatever, Like I 346 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: just signed the scholarship, you know and stuff like that. 347 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: And you know she was happy. She was on her 348 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: way up there to go tell them. So when she 349 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: ended up going, that's when she got the bad news. Wow. 350 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: So I mean described to that. I mean that's like 351 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: the ultimate high and ultimate Well, yeah, what did you 352 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: do when when she told you that? What can you 353 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: take us into that day? A little bit? I didn't, 354 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't believe it though. You know, I 355 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: had like some great friends, you know, like Travunny Homes. 356 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: You know, they took good care of me. You know, 357 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: like they made sure like my head was leveled. And 358 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, at the time, like we didn't have the money, 359 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: so my mom was trying to like find money, you know, 360 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: to get me home. So you know, like they took 361 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: care of me. And then you know, I called the 362 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: coach from Pitt State and you know, I let him 363 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: know and then I'm telling him like listen, like I'm 364 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: not coming up Pitch State unless I get number five. 365 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: And you know that was my brother's favorite number. So 366 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: he was like, hey, like I'll call you back, and 367 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: you know, he called me back in like two minutes 368 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: and like, hey, number five years. And then I get 369 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: on Facebook and then like all these players from Pitt 370 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: State they're writing me like, oh, like were family, but 371 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: like I never met these dudes yet, so you know, 372 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: like they made me feel comfortable. And you know, that 373 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: same year we end up winning the national champion ship. 374 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: And the first time he touched the ball pit State 375 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: where number five is a punt return, and he took 376 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: it to the house. It's pretty special. And that's a 377 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: that's a funny story because when I first got the 378 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: pit doing training camp, I was talking to Zach Dickie, 379 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and you know, like I told him like 380 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: the first time I'm like the first time I touched 381 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: the ball on my score and he's looking at me like, 382 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't really know me, so he looking 383 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: at me and stuff. So you know, we fast forward 384 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: to the first game whatever, and you know, like I'm 385 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: looking at pictures of my brother, I'm crying and he's 386 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: like you're all right. I'm like, yeah, I'm good, and 387 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm like I just know, like you're not getting on 388 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: the field first. And I patted him on the back 389 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: and like he was laughing and I'm like, I'm like, 390 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm serious, like I'm not playing, and like they pointed 391 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: the ball and I ran the back and he was like, 392 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: man like I can't believe it. Like so, you know, 393 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: it was like a miracle. It was crazy. Do you 394 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: really look at it that way? Like does it feel 395 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: like it's actually like a god given miracle like that 396 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: the whole thing? Oh, yeah, you know, And I just 397 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm just a person. I believe. Yeah, And you know, 398 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: so that was a you know, greatest perence. And you know, 399 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm still continuing my journey to keep him happy. I thought, 400 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: and again I keep referencing this piece that you wrote. 401 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: For anybody listening, they should definitely go and read this 402 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: piece of the players from you, and you did a 403 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: fantastic job with it. John wad put us out of 404 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: work if he was seriously right too much? Um no, 405 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: But in all honesty you wrote in there, which I 406 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: thought was so powerful, but that basically your brother held 407 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: on until they you signed your contract, and you felt 408 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: like he knew that that was basically the time that 409 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: he could let go. Like that kind of talk about 410 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: that and basically knowing that he was pushing you even 411 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: though we could say anything. But he was pushing you 412 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: during that entire time. And when you finally got with 413 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: both of you talked about for so long, that's when 414 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: he finally felt like this is the time. Um. You know, 415 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: every time I went back, you know, like my mom 416 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: would like he would have his days. You know, he 417 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: would try to talk, he would move his mouth, but 418 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: you used to have to try to like look hard 419 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: to try to see what he was saying, but you 420 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: really can't understand. So my mom like most days like 421 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: when they go, like he wasn't talk but every time 422 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: I went in the room, like he just trying to 423 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: like start talking, and you know, like it was like 424 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: hard to understanding. You know. It used to break me down, 425 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: you know because I used to try to figure out 426 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: what he was saying, and you know that it was 427 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: just it was just I guess that's what he was 428 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: trying to tell me. So once I made the decision, 429 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: I just feel like he was like, Okay, like I 430 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: can rest now, you know, just take care of the family. 431 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: And because you know, like we're real family origin and 432 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, I still take care of my family to 433 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: this day. And he called you the secret weapon. Yeah, 434 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: that's what they called it, but you know, like yeah, 435 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: you could basically say yeah. Like he always felt like 436 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: I can do anything, like he felt like versus anybody. 437 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: He just felt like I was the world, like I 438 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: can do it. Because he had friends that came to 439 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: the funeral and they was like, man, like your brother 440 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: talked about you like you God, and you know, like 441 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: his girlfriend came up to me like, oh, your brother 442 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: always talking about you, you know, like this and that. 443 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: So you know that's what you know, kept me lifted 444 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: right Well, the secrets out on you now, John, in 445 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: terms of football on the football field, made that ridiculous 446 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: catch up Monday night football gets the Colts. I think 447 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: people have started to read our reports about how good 448 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: you've looked in practice, the secrets starting to get out 449 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: trying to draft. How has that been like for you though, 450 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: Like like all this kind of hype, like what how 451 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: do you kind of handle it off? I mean, you know, 452 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: it's it's all talk, but you know, at the end 453 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: of the day, I'm just I'm trying to better myself 454 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: every day. I'm trying to get better at what I 455 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: do every day. You know, like like that catch I made, 456 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: that's something like I practice all the time, Like I 457 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: practice it before practice, I do it at the practice, 458 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: and you know, like I try to do it when 459 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: we're working together against the Gods or even the other teams. 460 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: So you know, like I just continue to work and 461 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: I just block out all the hype and you know, 462 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: trying to control what I can control. And one thing 463 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: I find also interesting is that you, Willie and Crabtree 464 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: all kind of are coming from a similar place where 465 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: you've all had big time production, but you're coming off 466 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: years that of lower production. How much of you three 467 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: talked about that and kind of the mission of like 468 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: all right, you know what we're all gonna get back? Yeah, 469 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: we all we all talk about it. What you know, 470 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: at the same time, we understand, you know, it's all 471 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: part of God God's plans, and you know, we just 472 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: continue to work and try to better each other every day. 473 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: Hey man, Well we look forward to that. We look 474 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: forward to all three of you guys. You have a 475 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: big season in both those guys as well. So so 476 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time today, and thanks for 477 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: being so open and this conversation appreciated. App Yeah, absolutely cool. 478 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: Well do you think we were successful? Yeah, we we 479 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: set out on our mission to get John to open up. 480 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: He said he would play ball. He did, and we 481 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: are very appreciative for that. What round are you taking 482 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: him in fantasy? One round before you do. You're not 483 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: even playing the league this year because you're scared, you're 484 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: scre way. I heard you're not playing in the league either. 485 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm playing. That's not what I heard. I'm play. But here, 486 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: let me, just for the listeners out there, break this down. 487 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: Karen's terrible fantasy football. Okay, I've never won the championship, 488 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: but I'm the Buffalo Bills of fantasy football. I get 489 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: to the championship every year. I just can't win it. 490 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: Every year something happens, somebody gets hurt, somebody just it 491 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: is terrible. In Week seventeen, whatever it is, I can 492 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: never win it. But you you can't really get to 493 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: the dance you're bad at. And I've said this many 494 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: times on the podcast, and I'll reference it again today. 495 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: I could not care less about this league that we have. 496 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't spend any time half of half of the weeks. 497 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't even set my lineup. It's like I do 498 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: it just because you need to. We need a twelfth guy. 499 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: We need a twelth guy, I'm like, sure, I'll do it, 500 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: and then I don't. I don't do a live draft. 501 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't set you do every single year and more 502 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: pizza than your share than your five dollars. That's here's 503 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: the difference. I used to care when we would do 504 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: the live draft in person and you would a pizza. 505 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: Lately though, there has not been an in person draft, 506 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: and I don't care the pizza. I'm here for the pizza. 507 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: So that's it for us. As always, you guys can 508 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: email us at the lounge at Ravens on NFL dot nets. 509 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: Next week we're going to be back with our full 510 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster predictions. It's one of our favorite 511 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: podcast of the year. Also, it's a good time to 512 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: listen because if you're doing that, you pick the team contest, 513 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: which the prizes. Do you know what the prizes are? Yeah, 514 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: they're a heck of a prize, a pair of tickets 515 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: though in a game against the Bills, you get sideline 516 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: passes before that game and get signed Hayden Hurst jersey, 517 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: so it's a heck of a prize. Pack Um again, 518 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: go to Baltimore Ravens dot com Slash you picked the team, 519 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: and we will also do our pay three minute roster 520 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: predictions next week. The best part of that prize is 521 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: to sign and passes because you might get a chance 522 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: to shake our hand. Yeah, and who needs to sign 523 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Hayne Hirst Jersey When you get to feed that that, 524 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: that's that's the incentive to not do it. My running 525 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: to turn everybody off. But yeah, thanks for listening. As always, 526 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: you can reach us at the lounge at Ravens dot 527 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: NFL dot net. Make sure you know what. We haven't 528 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: had a call for reviews ratings yep. I still need 529 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: to get those ratings up. We need to spread the 530 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: lounge a little bit more Gillot promotion. We got the 531 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: big billboard up in the stadium. Yeah, we look good, right, 532 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: we look great, we look something, So we look pretty good. 533 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: We're like King Kong size, so watch out for that 534 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: in the games too. But anyway, thanks for listening. We'll 535 00:26:52,960 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: be back to be next week. Stent situates the Spence 536 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: at Inspans Paspaspa