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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a Monday edition of Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: John Harris. Now, usually Monday is a Mark and John adventure,

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Speaker 1: but Mark is out running his golf tournament, so he's

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Speaker 1: got plenty going on today. So I got the show,

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Speaker 1: and I got plenty for you. In our next segment,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk with Chris Level, you know, like Chris

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Speaker 1: Level tonight in fact, in about oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of hours. Texas Tech's playing for the national

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Speaker 1: championship for the first time ever, and Chris Level is

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Speaker 1: a good buddy of mine. He is the color analyst

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Speaker 1: for the basketball team. He's also a silent reporter for

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Speaker 1: the football team. So we're gonna have Chris on. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the experience. So he's joining me. He

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Speaker 1: joined me earlier this afternoon, but I know that he

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Speaker 1: is getting ready and amped up for the game tonight,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk to him a little bit. We'll

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Speaker 1: have Drew in the last segment as well. But to

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Speaker 1: kick off the show, to my good friend Deep, Deep,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing. I'm great, Johnny can't wait to

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Speaker 1: hear that interview. By the way, yeah, Chris is the

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Speaker 1: best we've been. When we started a fifteen sixty long

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Speaker 1: time ago, we did a thing called cod Football Wednesdays,

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Speaker 1: and so we were of fine guys from all different

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Speaker 1: local teams, and so somebody from Texas Tech suggested Chris

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Speaker 1: Level from Red Raider Sports. I'm like, yeah, okay, we

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Speaker 1: didn't know Chris at the time, and so we did

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Speaker 1: radio with him forever. Whenever he came to Houston do something,

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Speaker 1: you know, we would go see him. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: just he's fantastic. And I kept thinking about him because

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Speaker 1: they made him the color analyst for basketball a few

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Speaker 1: years ago, and I can only imagine what he's going through,

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Speaker 1: like what the day must be like to think about

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Speaker 1: and because I think about that about the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Like what if we were in the Super Bowl, Like

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Speaker 1: what would that day like leading up to the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Like what would it be like the week leading up

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Speaker 1: to it? All that? I mean, like what would that

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Speaker 1: be like? I mean, at least, you know, they played

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Speaker 1: on Saturday and played really well in the second half

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Speaker 1: in particular, but I mean just calling a Final Four

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Speaker 1: game two, I can imagine the days leading up to

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Speaker 1: that must have been unbelievable as well. So we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Chris. I'm pretty excited to talk to him. And

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Speaker 1: of course they've got a new football coach and new

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Speaker 1: football programs, so will kind of get his thoughts to

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Speaker 1: keep it football orient, if you will. But looking forward

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Speaker 1: to Texas Tech and Virginia tonight, uh, I know Virginia

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Speaker 1: took out your pretty boy the makers. What you're said,

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Speaker 1: Oh those games who are heartbreakers, Johnny, It's like back

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Speaker 1: to the Tennessee game went into overtime, um, and then

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Speaker 1: the Virginia Just the Virginia game just felt like deja vu.

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Speaker 1: I just really thought Perdue was going to pull it out,

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Speaker 1: and I was just it was I was really demist.

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Speaker 1: I was actually cheering from Michigan's day because you know,

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Speaker 1: a cheer for Big Tens. Yeah, I'm equally happy for

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Speaker 1: the Big ten family. I do. But then you know,

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Speaker 1: I've lived in Texas long enough that I you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm mildly. It keeps you interested, at least what's your

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Speaker 1: team's out A thought? The best thing was produced best

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Speaker 1: players from a Taska Ceda. I know Edwards, who was unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: you know, My husband totally took credit for that for

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Speaker 1: some reason. He's like, well, it's because our best players

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Speaker 1: from Texas from you know, he said, from Houston. I

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Speaker 1: said a task ca ceda Houston. He's like, it's like

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Speaker 1: a subur house. It's like, I mean, you know, when

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Speaker 1: when you get outside the state a little bit, you

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Speaker 1: start claiming everything. It was like passing, that's just greater Houston.

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Speaker 1: This is the outermost play all that. All right, DP,

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Speaker 1: We've had a lot of the Texas have had a

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Speaker 1: lot a lot of changes. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: the right way of saying it. Changes, editions, movements, all

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Speaker 1: kinds of things this offseason. So I figured you and

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Speaker 1: I could do we could kind of take those changes

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Speaker 1: in totality in some sense and kind of rate the

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Speaker 1: impact of those changes. For example, Texas made Tim Kelly

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Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator this offseason. A scale a one to ten,

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Speaker 1: ten being this is earth shattering, this is going to

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Speaker 1: little to no impact. It is, you know, a gnat

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna look at some of these individual changes

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Speaker 1: and maybe there's one that I don't hit on that

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Speaker 1: let's start with that one. Okay, you rank on a

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Speaker 1: When when ranking things, I'm one of those people that

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Speaker 1: I hardly ever picked neutral, and I don't. I think

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Speaker 1: that's just my personality. But I feel like this game

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Speaker 1: just because I think Tim Kelly's been here. I don't

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Speaker 1: other aspects of the game because now he's got an

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a one hundred percent gonna be

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Speaker 1: Tim Kelly week one. You know, maybe they'll be like

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Speaker 1: maybe it'll be percentage that as the season goes along,

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Speaker 1: it'll gradually become more and more. But I think week one,

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Speaker 1: But Bill O'Brien's gonna have a little bit more capability

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Speaker 1: And I think he's needed that because he's been shouldering

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Speaker 1: George Godsey left not hiring someone. So yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: where I would put that. I didn't agree with you

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Speaker 1: point he does become the play caller, Ben, then then

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Speaker 1: now week one, that's not going to happen. Now, I

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Speaker 1: if when, and if that does transpire, when does he

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Speaker 1: give him the opportunity to call coach O'Brien give Tim

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Speaker 1: Kelly the opportunity to call the plays. That that to

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Speaker 1: me is when the impact is going to be felt. Like,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's see all those years are dueling on

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Speaker 1: an appkin. You know that's you always say, Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: here's another world standard coaching realm. Carl Smith is named

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Speaker 1: thought I thought he did a great job. So this

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Speaker 1: more impactful, I think seven to eight because just he's

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Speaker 1: just had so much experience. I think he just sees

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Speaker 1: things differently having come from you know, world of coaching

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Speaker 1: can apply to Deshaun Watson. And I think Deshaun is

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Speaker 1: even more talented, has even more raw talent than Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: know that. When that was announced, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: lot of different quarters, absolutely a lot, and that was

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Speaker 1: all different types. He's that guys in college. He's had

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Speaker 1: it for a while. You worked for Russell Wilson may

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Speaker 1: Like I did when I was coaching Chuck. You've seen

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Speaker 1: got all that experience that I think ends up making

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Speaker 1: a sight out of mind thing, especially now in our society,

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Speaker 1: Shantrew Henderson resigning with the Texans one to ten. What's

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Speaker 1: the impact of that, you think, Well, I think it.

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Speaker 1: if he gets hurt again, obviously, And that's the worry

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Speaker 1: obviously after two years. I mean, he was back healthy

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Speaker 1: obviously gets hurt in twenty seventy. But he's had a

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Speaker 1: history of being banged up, and I think that's that's

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Speaker 1: put him at a six or a seven. And just

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Speaker 1: because I know in OTAs in camp how much they

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Speaker 1: really liked what they saw from him on the field.

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Speaker 1: His footwork he's been I mean, he's humongous. But then

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Speaker 1: he also the way he moved, Yeah, and it moves

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Speaker 1: But I think that if he is healthy, if you've

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Speaker 1: to Seantrel Henderson. Would they call him Big Trell? Big

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Speaker 1: Troll had a sense of humor, he's you know, experiences,

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Speaker 1: he's looking to make that shot. I think that based

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Speaker 1: Mike Dylan, coach O'Brien, you know he could make an impact.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's really going to depend on his health.

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Speaker 1: between two and a six, but I think it's right.

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Speaker 1: Culver shot Chris, And when I was watching the game

427
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Speaker 1: and I'm seeing, like man Culvert King Dennis had watched.

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Speaker 1: If he's the player I think he is, he'll do

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Speaker 1: something near the end of his game when that shot

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Speaker 1: goes in. What are your emotions, knowing at that point

431
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna win that game. What are you feeling

432
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Speaker 1: right there at courtside when that shot goes through from

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Speaker 1: Culvert for the three don't don't say something stupid microphone,

434
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Speaker 1: but because that's when that's when it starts to think

435
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Speaker 1: in And then the seconds later tom Izzo subbing guys

436
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Speaker 1: from the end of his bench into the game. And

437
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: then the game's over and you're I'm still in shock

438
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: at some level that that we're here, um, and that

439
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 1: they have a chance to do this. But but it's

440
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: these moments have just been so special, and you get

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Speaker 1: a little emotional because Jared, I mean, Jared's a local kid.

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Speaker 1: His dad is a team chaplain. You know when when

443
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Speaker 1: Beard got the job, but the first thing he did

444
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: is culture his family and he robbed the staff together

445
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 1: and that Beard's that's first that next Sunday morning, and

446
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Speaker 1: you know, it's just like it's kind of stuff a

447
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: fairy tale, right, I mean it's not, it's just it's

448
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 1: just cure, if that makes sense. And for him to

449
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Speaker 1: at least have a moment like that, because he's carried

450
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Speaker 1: this team so many nights, John and people to watch

451
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Speaker 1: this thing. He's gonna be able to free pick. But

452
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Speaker 1: but he's so selfless and I was glad for him

453
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Speaker 1: that he had that moment. But yeah, it takes your

454
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Speaker 1: breath away a little bit, if I'm being honest, I

455
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Speaker 1: was just trying not to talk yourself, like you don't

456
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Speaker 1: have something profound to say, Just keep your mouth. The

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Speaker 1: crowd do the talking. Yeah, the crowd definitely did some talking. Chris,

458
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Speaker 1: Where does where does this rank? I remember we talked

459
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Speaker 1: to you the Wednesday after Graham Herald of Michael Crabtree

460
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Speaker 1: against University of Texas and that was just an unbelievable

461
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Speaker 1: ball games, unbelievable moment that so many in Lubbick. In fact,

462
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: Drew Dohrdy was telling me the story off the air,

463
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Speaker 1: but all the people that were in Lubbick that all

464
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Speaker 1: went partying after that game. This is a different this

465
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Speaker 1: is a different animal. First of all, it's basketball. Second

466
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Speaker 1: of all, it's in Minneapolis, but it's on such a

467
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Speaker 1: grand national stage. Where does this rank in in kind

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Speaker 1: of your lifetime? And you know, following Texas Tech? Is

469
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Speaker 1: this number one? Is this right up there at the

470
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Speaker 1: top or is this right there with that two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight Texas game? No? I think this is this

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Speaker 1: is big, bigger and probably the biggest one in the

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Speaker 1: unlet purpose history, just because you know that that year

474
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Speaker 1: in football, you know, you came away with no hardware,

475
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Speaker 1: but basically and there was no conference championship, there was

476
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Speaker 1: no you share the division title with two other teams,

477
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Speaker 1: but this one, I mean your conference champion. You go

478
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Speaker 1: to the final four and there's two teams playing the

479
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Speaker 1: sport right now and you're one of them. And then

480
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Speaker 1: regardless of what happens against Virginia, I mean, this team

481
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Speaker 1: stands alone. As you know, and you've gone to College

482
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: World Series and three on the last lot of years

483
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: haven't been able to too much when you've gotten there.

484
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Speaker 1: This is just different and because of the way the

485
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Speaker 1: postseason is laid out, it's very difficult to get this done.

486
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Speaker 1: But you know, and you mix in all of the

487
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Speaker 1: things that you go with it. I mean Beard being

488
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: a lovely guy for thirteen years as a long time assistant,

489
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Speaker 1: then come to take the head coach and being led

490
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Speaker 1: by the local kid and Jared Colver men on and

491
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Speaker 1: on it goes. But uh, I mean, I just uh,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what happens, I know, love will want to

493
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Speaker 1: give these kids a big hug when they get back,

494
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: and they deserve it because this has been very special

495
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Speaker 1: in quite the journey. It's been very cool. Well, and

496
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Speaker 1: obviously you're my buddy, so I'm concerned about you in

497
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Speaker 1: some sense and concerns about the right word. But how

498
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Speaker 1: are your emotions right now? I mean, you're a few

499
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Speaker 1: hours away from being able to call it national championship

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00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 1: basketball game for your university. What are your emotions right now?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to stay focused, and you're trying

502
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Speaker 1: not to let your mind wander a little bit, and

503
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: you're trying to you know, be prepared. Um, So like

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Speaker 1: I've read over my game notes and just my my

505
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: prep you know, six different times, and you know, I

506
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: just need to get into the stadium and just kind

507
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Speaker 1: of settle down a little bit and just kind of focus.

508
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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I'm looking forward to it. It's

509
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: an honor to get to do what we can, you know,

510
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: guys like us do and broadcasting and being part of

511
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: special things and they're rare, as we talked about. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I just trying not to let

513
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Speaker 1: my mind wander too much from from the possible result

514
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: either way, just because uh, you know, I just got

515
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Speaker 1: back from the last year round the US MAKE Stadium

516
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Speaker 1: and which is the last few round of the season,

517
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Speaker 1: and you know there'll be a lot of emotions one

518
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Speaker 1: way or the other tonight, But I just, yeah, I

519
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Speaker 1: don't even know what to think if they're able to

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Speaker 1: pull this thing off. Chris level Color, analyst for Texas

521
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Tech basketball. You're hear him tonight on the call. He's

522
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Speaker 1: also a silent reporter Protectas Tech football in real quick

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Speaker 1: Chris wall I got you, Matt Wells, head coach. I

524
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Speaker 1: know you've been involved in basketball, but what's the feeling

525
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: and loveick about Matt taking over the program? Yeah, and

526
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Speaker 1: he's here, John, he was here Saturday. He stayed over there.

527
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Speaker 1: They actually adjusted one of those spring practices and moved

528
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Speaker 1: it to tomorrow, so he's going to be at the

529
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Speaker 1: title game to night too. Great guy. Um, he's he's

530
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Speaker 1: very fiery, very family oriented. It's very clear on how

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Speaker 1: they were able to be so successful up in Utah State,

532
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: which is not an easy place to recruit. To big

533
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Speaker 1: fan of his that they know they just have to

534
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Speaker 1: start winning some recruiting battles. If they get that done,

535
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Speaker 1: I mean, they'll be right there in the thicket things

536
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Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve Conference. And as long as they

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Speaker 1: keep Alan bowmanhealthy. That'll happened soon as in later Chris

538
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Speaker 1: level you ye tonight on the broadcast, my brother, Keep

539
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Speaker 1: hope alive and hopefully get a chance to talk to

540
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Speaker 1: you when you guys are bringing home a trophy later on,

541
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Speaker 1: my man, I appreciate it. We'll be happy to do it.

542
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: And just forty more minutes then where people can get

543
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Speaker 1: it done. So glad to have Chris join me from

544
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Speaker 1: Minneapolis about the game and night talk a little bit

545
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: about Matt Wells and the football program. Great stuff going

546
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: on and a great guy there. Keep hope alive. Speaking

547
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Speaker 1: of one of Lubbick's former sports analysts, it's Drew Dorty.

548
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Speaker 1: He's gonna join me next right here in Texas Access one,

549
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Speaker 1: final segment of Texans All Access from the Hunday Texans

550
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Speaker 1: Radio studio. I'm your host, John Harrison. I've saved Drew

551
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: Dougherty for last. It's going on. Like the Vanessa Williams song,

552
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: sometimes the snow comes, Yeah, that one. What does that

553
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Speaker 1: have to do with you? Go and save the best

554
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Speaker 1: for last. I love that song. I love I love

555
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Speaker 1: Vanessa Williams. I love that song. Actually, I like a

556
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Speaker 1: song that she did better with Brian McKnight, which was

557
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Speaker 1: very very good. But yeah, I should have I should

558
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Speaker 1: have known that. Ye yeah, I should are gone from yeah,

559
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: miss USA to disgrace, Miss USA to Pop's top superstar

560
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Speaker 1: to actress. She's kind of done at all. Yep, it's

561
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: kind of done at all. We just had on or

562
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Speaker 1: I just had on last segment. My buddy Chris Level

563
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: and a good buddy of yours, good friend of mine

564
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: man from my lobbic days five to oh nine. Chris

565
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: and I did a lot of TV, a lot of

566
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: radio together, ate a lot of Ruby Tequila's Mexican food

567
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: lunches together. He's a good dude, he is. He's a

568
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: great dude. And since you were out there, how I

569
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Speaker 1: don't want to use the word implausible, but when how

570
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 1: impossible is this to be championship in about an hour

571
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Speaker 1: and a half. It is wild. When I was out there,

572
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Speaker 1: it was the last three years of Bob Knight and

573
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Speaker 1: the one year of his son Pat Pat, and I

574
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: was there for the last There was the last tournament

575
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: team that Bob Knight ever coached, and they got bounced

576
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Speaker 1: in the first round by BC. I goes seven around

577
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: there before that he'd taken with the Sweet sixteen, but

578
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: that was as far as Tech had ever gotten was

579
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: a Sweet sixteen. Yeah, you know, and I mean Chris

580
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: Beard who was there as an assistant, he was with

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Speaker 1: night Right. Did you cannot underscore enough how amazing this

582
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: guy is. I mean, he is a hell of a coach.

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Speaker 1: He was an impressive guy back then. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I could have seen this coming though. Yeah, I mean,

585
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: but golly, what they've what he's got them doing, it's wild. Wild.

586
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Speaker 1: I mean to be playing friends Michigan State the other night,

587
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: the last, the last time now, not counting Baylor's runs

588
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: in the UH and the women's championship. Congratulations to the

589
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: Baylor Bears because the women won a national championship yesterday,

590
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: so I'm sure John mcclaimed, very very excited about that.

591
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: But just staying on the men's side in football and basketball,

592
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I can't remember a team from the state of Texas

593
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Speaker 1: playing for a championship. The only one I could think

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Speaker 1: of Texas and Texas and O nine. Yeah, when they

595
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: played Alabama, Colt McCoy got hit in the arm and

596
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: missed the rest of the game. That's the last time

597
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Speaker 1: I remember a school from the state of Texas playing

598
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: for a national championship. Yeah. In basketball, you gotta go.

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Speaker 1: What back to you of h H? Yeah, Fi slam

600
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Speaker 1: a jama you have h And then the only Texas

601
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: school to have won was Texas Western. I mean, it's

602
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: incredible to think about that. He's gotten that this program

603
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: to that point where they're playing for a national championship

604
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: and it's astounding. It's not a band of misfits, but

605
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: one of their best players is from South Dakota transferred

606
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: from South Dakota. The other one transferred from Saint John's.

607
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: That was I think Texas the third or fourth school

608
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: he's been at. You get the Italian guy. Yeah, when

609
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: they announced him the other day, I always just thought

610
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: it was David MURRETTI. I didn't think much of it.

611
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: And then when Jim Nance pronounced his name and what

612
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: and they said he was from Italy and it's like, oh,

613
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: that makes sense. It makes total sense. Jared Culver a

614
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: local kid. I mean, it's really kind of interesting. What

615
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: he what Chris Beard has built there amazing, But to

616
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: see them playing a national championship and nice it's gonna

617
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: be I want to make sure you say this right,

618
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be surreal. It's gonna be surreal. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just watch him in the Final four game. Was surreal, like, hey,

620
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: that's Michigan State, Like, you know, here's your participation trophy,

621
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Speaker 1: Like you made it to the Final four, great Michigan State.

622
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: And then they just locked Michigan State up. Yeah, I

623
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: mean they just locked them up. I mean when I

624
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: was there, I was the last team that I covered

625
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: was that oh eight, you know Crabtree Graham Herald team

626
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: that all you know, they they were a game or

627
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: two away from playing for a national title. They got

628
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: smoked by Oklahoma when they were ten and oh and

629
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: then they lost their bowl game to Old Miss, but

630
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: they were that was a really good team, and you know,

631
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: baseball and basketball kind of scuffled and struggled. Now it's

632
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: a flip. I mean, baseball has been in the College

633
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: World Series the last few years, and then you got

634
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: what's going on with the basketball team tonight. It's it's wild.

635
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: I almost see. I almost texted Chris after the win

636
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 1: over Gonzaga and just is this the greatest win in

637
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: Tech athletic history? And then I immediately thought of two

638
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: thousand and eight they win over Texas, because yes, that

639
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: was not for a national championship, that was not to

640
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: get to the final four, but that was such a

641
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: and let me that was such a foundational win. And

642
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: then let me set it up again like a little

643
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: bit more so. That was yet Friday night was Halloween. Yeah,

644
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: and then no, no, Thursday night was Halloween. Friday game

645
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: day was there, and then Saturday night it was a

646
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: night game. Both teams were undefeated at ten and oh

647
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 1: and Tech wins. But then they win and in like

648
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: it seats what sixty seventy thousand that stadium that night

649
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: though there were one hundred and fifty thousand people in

650
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: like within a quarter mile radius of that stadium, people tailgating,

651
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: just having fun. So all those people after they win,

652
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: they gout in party and it was daylight savings time,

653
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: so they got an extra hour at the bars. So

654
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: they were living it up, having an awesome time that

655
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: It was just like the perfect storm weekend, you know.

656
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I would think that's the that's gotta be

657
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: the greatest football win they've had. I would, yeah, I

658
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: would think. So, I mean, I don't I'm not going

659
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: to profess myself to be a Techi Storian. But we win.

660
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: If they win the national championship tonight, that's gotta take

661
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: doesn't take precedence. Yeah, yeah, I would think so. Yeah,

662
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: it's a national title, I would think yeah. I mean

663
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: the women won one with Cheryl Swoops was just dominating.

664
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: But that was that was back in the days when

665
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: I was in college. It's a long time ago when

666
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: that was going on. This is It's good hearing Chris

667
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: Level on the radio. I love Sea Level having him all.

668
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: We'll have them on a little bit more, just talking ball.

669
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: They've got a new football We talked about that, just

670
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, talking about football. I know he's so

671
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: locked in on basketball right now, but he's a silent

672
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: reporter for football, as we mentioned, so we talked a

673
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: little bit about that as well. We're also going to

674
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: talk about Mark Vanomuir. He's not here, so he can't

675
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: defend himself, so this is the best time to talk

676
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: about it. He came out with Vandermeer's view, his vandermock

677
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: two dot. Oh, now you have been looking at the

678
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: mock draft servey. You've been at what version are you on? Now? Nine?

679
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: It's up in the dozens now, man yeah, it's like

680
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: in the teens. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people

681
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: obviously have the Texans taken offensive linemen to start last

682
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: mock Vandermock, he Mark had the Texas taken Greedy Williams,

683
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: which at the time I was like, Mark, if that happens,

684
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: I will be so excited. Drew. I've seen more and

685
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: more people having Greedy Williams moving down draft boards, and

686
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: I find the timing of it to be interesting because

687
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: the people that are good at doing these mock drafts,

688
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: they get a lot of information from NFL people, and

689
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: this is that time of the year where the coaches

690
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: have gotten involved in this. So I wonder if the

691
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: coaches have looked at it and said, now, man, he's

692
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: just not my cup of tea, and sort of that

693
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: that that feeling is maybe filtering out to some media members.

694
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: So when I said that to Mark, you know, a

695
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: month ago, or whenever we talked about Vandermock number one,

696
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: I didn't think Greedy Williams was gonna be there. I

697
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: think that he might be there. I think he might

698
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: be there at twenty three. You know, you say that,

699
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: and he's on five mock drafts right now. They have

700
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: the Texans taking Greedy Williams out of fifty but five

701
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: of them have and there's some prominent ones that have

702
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: him there some that didn't have any I think, I think,

703
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that he's gonna slide that far,

704
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: but I think the reason these mock drafters are thinking

705
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: he might slide that far is just his stature. Yeah,

706
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, they they kind of compare him to Kevin Johnson.

707
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: Maybe different player, but they think he might be a

708
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: little slight. So I guess. But you know, if you

709
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: can cover a guy, that's really matter. How I'm with

710
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: you on that now, vander Mock two point zero, it's

711
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: a difference. No Greedy this time, No Greedy. He actually

712
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: went back to the offensive lineman stayed with the same

713
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: last name. Though. Yeah, Jonah Williams, that's cool with me.

714
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: I'd be totally fine with that. I don't think it's

715
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen. In fact, I would be if his first

716
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: three picks hit two of them in particular. But if

717
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: his first three picks hit in the Vandermock. So he's

718
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: got Jonah Williams number one in the second round with

719
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: back to back picks fifty four and fifty five. He's

720
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: got Isaiah Johnson, a corner from University Houston, and he's

721
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: got Caleb McGarry with pick number fifty five the right

722
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: time from University of Washington, who I spent some time

723
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: with the Senior Bowl and have watched And in fact

724
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: wasn't probably a week or so ago that I went

725
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: back and I watched the Rose Bowl again. I was like, Okay,

726
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: he's starting, he's starting to kind of he's kind of

727
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: made his way up. People are starting to think about him,

728
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: maybe not at the back end of the first round,

729
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: they're starting to think about him in that top forty

730
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: rain he's been on a mock draft in the first

731
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: round of the Texans. Yeah, I'm not gonna be surprised.

732
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: I watched it again and you can see some of

733
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: the things that are issues right now, but I think

734
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: it's things that he can be coached out of. But

735
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: you also see the athleticism he has. You also see

736
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: the strength that he has and some of the things

737
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: that he does two guys when he gets his hands

738
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: on him, it's pretty pretty incredible. But Jonah Williams Kla McGarry,

739
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: like cauld very well be your tackle tandem for for

740
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: a long time. If you're able to get if you're

741
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: able to draft those two guys. Now the question he

742
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: comes for a Jonah does he end up moving to

743
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: guard at some point? I would think if the Texans

744
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: were able to draft Jonah Williams, they would want him

745
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: to compete at left tackle at least to start. That's like,

746
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: he seems more than capable of competing a left tackle,

747
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: and he held his own against the good pass rushers

748
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: of the SEC. He can move, and he can move

749
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: like a guard, you know, I mean you see him

750
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: doing all that stuff. But yeah, I understand how people

751
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: want to move them inside of guard, But I think

752
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: he's more than capable of playing left tackle and you know,

753
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: helping you out there. Yeah, I think so too. Isaiah

754
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: Johnson's a corner from University Houston's so interesting pick. What

755
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: was his rationale there? I don't know. I mean, just

756
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: the Texas needed to get a corner and that was

757
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: probably about the right way to go. So he said

758
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: about Isaiah Johnson, just because I really end jo going

759
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: to Cook's hoops games this year and actually purchased some

760
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: gear doesn't mean I'm pandering to their fans. Johnson is

761
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: a really good player. It seemed like the entire and

762
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: Fell showed up at Prote. It did to see at Oliver,

763
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: but Johnson was far more on the side. Show he

764
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: got he's got size. He's six two two o eight

765
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: and runs a four. Four sounds good to me. He does.

766
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: He runs very, very well, and he's aggressive. He stood

767
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: from about meeting you about three feet away, and as

768
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: I was there at the at pro day, I was like,

769
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: whoa he this is a corner. Wow. I mean, he

770
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: makes you makes you think back to the Seattle Corners

771
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: and they had Richard Sherman and Brandon Brown. I mean,

772
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: those guys looked like, you know, they were their shooting

773
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: guards in the NBA. That's kind of how they were built.

774
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: But I thought of all the and they were at

775
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Houston prote. Oh my gosh, the luminaries that were there.

776
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean it was incredible. I've never seen even at

777
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: Johnny's protect Yeah, I mean we saw we saw scouts,

778
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: but I don't remember seeing that many gmsa GM head

779
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: coaches like in tandem. There not just one or the other.

780
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: They're not just a GM from this team and head coach.

781
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: He saw the GM and the head coach from one

782
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: team what three to four or five times over. Yep, absolutely,

783
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: which is not that's not a normal thing. And I

784
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: saw one defensive coordinator. There might have been others, but

785
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: I recognized one and that was Chris He's not defensive coordinator.

786
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: He's a secondary coach, but he's the defensive play caller

787
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. And as Chris Richard, and he coached

788
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: the Seattle Corners, he was a secondary coach up in Seattle.

789
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: And apparently he was part of the workout for Isaiah Johnson.

790
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: Had to come back here and do ready with you.

791
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: So I missed that that part of the workout because

792
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: that was at the very very end. Yeah, And so

793
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: I missed that. But apparently Richard ended up working out

794
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: Isaiah Johnson. And I'm like, Man Dallas has picked the

795
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: second round and that's probably about where. But I'm thinking

796
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: Man Dallas has spent a lot of draft capital on

797
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: defensive backs lately. But that was the one guy that

798
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: ended up working on Isaiah Johnson. But I could see

799
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: us absolutely being interested in six two two o eight

800
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: running a full sure. I mean, I would think that's

801
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: absolutely somebody we would we would be excited about so

802
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams second round, Isaiah Johnson, Kayla McGarry. Third round.

803
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: It's got Miles Sanders from Penn State. Running back. Yeah,

804
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: I could see a running back going in the third

805
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: round of it. I don't know if it'll be that guy,

806
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: but I can see the text in spending draft capital

807
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: and kind of significant draft capital on one because you've

808
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: only got two right now. You've got Lamar Miller and

809
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: you've got Foreman. The other guys that you have under contract. Yeah, guys,

810
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: those guys mainly played teams and have limited experience, right, buddy,

811
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: how I'll never played off It's a snap last year.

812
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: It's hugely important to you because he ended up playing

813
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: on special teams. Miles Sanders would be a very interesting prospect,

814
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: very interesting. I think when my third version of the

815
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Harris one hundred comes out, he'll probably be He'll probably

816
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: be in the high sixty low seventy range, probably back

817
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: into the second round. I think right now I've got him.

818
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: I think I got him like eighty eighty one, something

819
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: like that, but he probably he probably should be high.

820
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: Kind of gone back my buddy, who's a who's an

821
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: agent in town. He kind of got in my head

822
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: about the running backs a little bit in his draft,

823
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: and I was kind of saying to him, I kind

824
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: of liked some guys and maybe I was bound to

825
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: pressure that had one guy rady ahead of other guys.

826
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: And he was like, ah, no, man, you know, go

827
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: with your gut on this, and I was like, you

828
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: know what, You're right. So I went back to running

829
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: backs in particular and kind of looked at it, just

830
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: reassessed where I had everybody. And I know I'm Lawan Sanders,

831
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: but he is a really good player. He backed up

832
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley, so I know everybody said, well, you know,

833
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: he did it for one year. He was a really

834
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: good player when Barkley was there as well. He just

835
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: didn't get the opportunity with Barkley, which is a bit

836
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: of a It can be a bit of a positive.

837
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: There's as much trend on the time, so maybe that's

838
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: a bit of a good thing. Yeah. Absolutely, So in

839
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: those first four picks, they come away with two tackles

840
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: or a tackle on a guard depending on how you

841
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: look at John Williams, a corner and a running back.

842
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: Is that about right? I could see that. I could

843
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: see that I think if you were to get that,

844
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: that'd be great. I don't think it'll be in that order. Yeah,

845
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I could see maybe one

846
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: of those guys going to Texans, but uh yeah, I'd

847
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: take that. Do you think Jonah Williams, I think that's

848
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Speaker 1: a the rest of it's just like a win, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I think the one thing about

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Speaker 1: Jonah Williams drew that and and we've talked about this

851
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but Jonah Williams is our kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: You think about the locker room and you think about

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Speaker 1: what they want to have, what the what the Brass

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00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: wants to have, Brian Gama, Bill O'Brien want to have

855
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Speaker 1: in this locker room, what Jamas McNair and Cal McNair

856
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Speaker 1: want to have in this locker room. Jonah Williams is that.

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Speaker 1: And then some like he is a film guy, like

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00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: he wants to go study film. He is first in

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Speaker 1: last to leave, like he is the perfect Texan from

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Speaker 1: that particular angle, So it would be kind it would

861
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Speaker 1: be nice to have him in the building. And McGarry

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Speaker 1: is gary stored like diversity he's gone through to get

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Speaker 1: where he is it's unbelievable. And you've you've talked with

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Speaker 1: me off the air about what he's doing to get

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Speaker 1: ready or how he was getting ready for the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I noticed I didn't say the combine, said the NFL,

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Speaker 1: because he's not done the typical you know, pre combined

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Speaker 1: prep that a lot of these guys, most of these guys,

869
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Speaker 1: almost all these guys doo. Yeah, exactly, he's going to

870
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: learn how to be an NFL player, not to go

871
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Speaker 1: learn how to master the combine, if you will. So

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Speaker 1: later picks for Mark and his vander Mock. He's got

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Speaker 1: a fifth round Gary Jennings, widercier from West Virginia. He's

874
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: got Ken Webster, really fast corner from Ole Miss. And

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Speaker 1: he's got Nick Scott, a safety who was also a

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Speaker 1: special teams captain at Penn State. I like Gary Jennings

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Speaker 1: in the fifth round for sure. If we ended up

878
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Speaker 1: looking at wide receiver, I just I mean, I know

879
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: that people talk about wide receivers. I think if there

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00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: was any change, I would have in the first four picks.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of started with this and then and

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Speaker 1: then we kind of got on something else. But Dre

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Speaker 1: Howe retiring how much do you think that changes. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that a possible safety goes in those top

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Speaker 1: four picks the top one day, maybe like the second,

886
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: second round or maybe the third. I could see that, Yeah,

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00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: I could definitely see that. Yeah, but it's kind of

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00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: I think if you were to upgrade two offensive tackle

889
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: positions like that and that in his mock draft, I

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Speaker 1: think you could do that. That'd be cool. Yeah, corner

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Speaker 1: and running back. I wouldn't be surprised if the corner,

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Speaker 1: if it's not a guy like Isaiah Johnson, that the

893
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: defensive back taken is kind of does it all? You know,

894
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: like a Darnell Savage type from Maryland who his position,

895
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Speaker 1: as I say an air quotes, is safety, but he

896
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: can do Buddy can play nickel. Yeah. Yeah, you'd probably

897
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: even bump out the corner if you needed to in

898
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: a pinch, kind of like Kareem could something like that.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if that type of player. That's

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Speaker 1: a guy that maybe they add in addition to a

901
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: perimeter corner. I think they walk out of There were

902
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: at least two defensive backs out of this draft, and

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Speaker 1: you think they'd look good in the New Texans Jersey yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they would new brand spanking Well, it's not

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Speaker 1: really that new, it's yeah, I mean, technically it is

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00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: gonna be new. It's new, it's gonna be a little different.

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00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: We can't tell you exactly what the difference is, but

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00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: it's nothing drastic, friends, But yeah, they will have new jerseys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I kind of think of a nice

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00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: analogy for it. But it's tweaked, just teens tweaked. Yeah,

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00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: that's the best way of saying it. Tweaked, not full on.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna go buy a brand new jersey. You'll

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Speaker 1: see them at the draft. They're gonna they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: You'll see them at the draft when the players put

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Speaker 1: them on mild change. Mild change. That's all Drew appreciated, brother,

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Speaker 1: and that is your show in the books. Big thanks

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Speaker 1: to dep to Drew, and of course to our guy

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Speaker 1: at Chris level. See you tomorrow. It's always go Texans.