1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Cliff Kingsberry Ware's shorts. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: I know it's a look we have not seen before, 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: but we have the picture to prove it. More on 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: what's happening at the annual League meeting in Florida. First though, 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: there is a new right guard and maybe a new 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: starting right guard. Welcome Will Hernandez. It's Cardinals cover two, 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: Episode five forty eight, and it starts now. Welcome to 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts, visit asy Cardinals 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash Podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Catchet a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Well, 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: we got a new name added to the roster. Everyone 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: likes those, as you like to say, MJ. Shiny new toys. 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: The Cardinals have a new toy. It's a big toy. Fact. 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: Six foot three, three hundred thirty two pounds. Will Hernandez 17 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, specifically guard and the Cardinals do have a 18 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: need at that position, but that signing made official on Monday, 19 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: So welcome Will Hernandez the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, I remember 20 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: when he was coming out. He was a high second 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: round pick, matter of fact, thirty fourth overall. He spent 22 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: the last four years with the Giants. He was at 23 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: U Tap and obviously you know you look at you 24 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: tap and Sean Coogler, the Cardinals offensive running game coordinator 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: and offensive line coach, was the head coach there, So 26 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: there's a relationship that matters. You know. I think he'd 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: be the first attean. Maybe he needs to play a 28 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: little bit better than the previous year, but you look 29 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: at a guy he's played in sixty two games, fifteen starts. 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: He started all seventeen games a year ago at right guard, 31 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: and he gives you, obviously a chance to start. Now 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: we know at the end of the day, Sean Kugler 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: is going to start the best five players. There's a 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: big difference between Hernandez and Josh Jacobs. Hernandez is more 35 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: like he looks like a revenge Jones Josh Schoen, Sorry, yeah, 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Josh Jones. He looks like a refrigerator, where Josh Jones 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: is more athletic, and we know he's gone through his 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: struggles and then justin Murray, so you know, you all 39 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: whos want to have depth, and I think they're looking 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: to go too deep there. But I think it's a 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: good signing. You know how I feel about twenty six, 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: twenty seven year old guys, and he's gonna be twenty 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: seven when the seasons start. Normally these guys don't reach 44 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: free agency. Obviously, when you're bringing a new general manager, 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: a new head coach with the New York Giants, they 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: want to maybe change the roster, get some more different 47 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: players in there. So really it was a good sign 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. And I do like the age, and 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: I like the fact that working with Kugler, he does 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: have a relationship with a couple of players on the team. 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: The only guy he doesn't know his DJ Humphrey. So 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: the fact that they got him at this point and 53 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: free agency, it's a really good signing. By the way, 54 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: speaking of hump by the time Bird Gang, you have 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: a chance to listen to this edition of Cardinals covered 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: to presented by Honday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to take a stab a wild guess that 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: those two will have connected via text, brief phone call, 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: because if there's anyone in that offensive line room that 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: is easy to connect with and get to know, it's 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys. There's no doubt about it. And that's what 62 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: you do when another player comes in because it's really 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: a fraternity at the end of the day, in the 64 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: off season, they're all in the same fraternity being an 65 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: offensive line And you know, Hernandez is flying out on 66 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: a Monday afternoon, he's head it back to Dallas. He's 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: working out with an offensive line coaches, our offensive line technician. 68 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: So he made a comment to Rolando Canto that he's 69 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: already missed one day and the guy who says, you 70 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: better be back here tomorrow. So that's good news because 71 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to come into offseason workouts with a 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: new team out of shape. And I'm not saying he's 73 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: gonna be out of shape. So I really think it 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: settles things down. You know, you got you got you 75 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: got your veterans there guys that are at thirty plus 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: and then you've got a couple of young guys in 77 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: hump and hopefully when you look at Hernandez, a couple 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: of different angles here, and we keep bringing up Sean Kugler, 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: and I want to start there because it was Coogs 80 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: who coached Hernandez at uteph And while they were together. 81 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: In fact, Hernandez was a second team AP All American 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: about twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen with Kugler as the 83 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: head coach. Now they're reunited, and that does mean something 84 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: because now for the second time in what three seasons 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: four seasons, we've heard an offensive linement specifically mentioned. I'm 86 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: here in large part because of Sean Coogler, not because 87 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: of the head coach, not because of the general manager, 88 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: not because of the location. Yeah, maybe money as a factor, 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: but because of who I get to work with on 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: a daily basis once the season begins. About Sean Kugler quote, 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: I feel like he's one of the main reasons why 92 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: even made it in the NFL in the first place. 93 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Me and him have a very strong connection, very good relationship. 94 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: That was well her Nandez earlier on Monday. We always 95 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: talk about relationships and when a player becomes available in 96 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: free agency or going back to the draft, is there 97 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: a connection did they cross pass before meeting up here 98 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals. And you could just tell listening 99 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: to Hernandez just how much of an influence and an 100 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: impact Sean Kugler has made on his not only career, 101 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: but probably even bigger than that, his life. Well, that 102 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: was one of the first questions just about his relationship, 103 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: and he basically was quite Frankie said, I wouldn't be 104 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL without him, And there's a trust factor. 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Now you don't want to let him down. So he 106 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: comes in here, and you know, I like the fact 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: that you know, it wasn't like they signed a guy 108 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: that only has five starts and you look at his upside. 109 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: This guy was a high pick and everyone's going to 110 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: go look at Pro Football Focus. Again, it's a tool. 111 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: It's not the Bible. But I can't tell you he 112 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: went through forwarded front offensive line coaches. They fired an 113 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and Jason Garrett during the season, Daniel Jones, 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: he was running for his life half the time. Se 115 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: Quon Barkley he was playing on one leg and a kickstand. 116 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, so there are factors, and you know the 117 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: fact that he can play both guard spots is and 118 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: appealing to me. Now it is a one year deal. 119 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: It's probably one year proved deal, and he knows what's 120 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: at stake and he said, if I play well, I'm 121 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: gonna be here. In other words, you would look at 122 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: the guy twenty six. He obviouslyees from Vegas, so you 123 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: know he's a West Coast guy. So there's a lot 124 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: of the fact that he was able to pick where 125 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: he wanted to go, and it makes sense based on 126 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: the relationship. This is a win win for both parties. Now, 127 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: all that being said, we've been here before. Craig Brian 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Winters last year, good signing. He played with Calvin Beach 129 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: and with the Jets fifty five starts and then you know, 130 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: obviously he decided he was going to step away from football. 131 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: So I don't want to temper it because to me, 132 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: this guy could be a starter, but we need to 133 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: see it during the season. Looks great on paper right 134 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: now and that's all we can judge it on. But 135 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: you look back at last season and right guard was 136 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: a revolving door. Josh Jones nine stars, Max Garcia seven stars. 137 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Justin Murray started one game Week three and then went 138 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: down with a back injury. You look at those three names, 139 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: Max Garcia, by the way, according reports, is maybe for 140 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, replacing Hernandez because Garcia is now 141 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: a New York Giants and her Nandez going back four 142 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: years ago his first time with the Giants, replaced Justin Pugh. 143 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: So now Hernandez and pure teammates here in Arizona. But 144 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: just try to get some continuity along that offensive line 145 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: with DJ Humphries, Justin Pugh, Rodney Hudson, Will Hernandez, and 146 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: Kelvin Beacham. If you can have those five guys and 147 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: the sum total being greater than the individual parts individual pieces, 148 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: and have some continuities, you're not having different offensive line 149 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: combinations like this team was going through a year ago, 150 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: specifically at right guard. He's got to win the job. 151 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: Talking about Will Hernandez, but I do like the fact 152 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: that he has experience at right guard and recently at 153 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: right guard, starting all seventeen games last season. Yeah, well said, 154 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: that's a that's a valid point. Now, this is no 155 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: disrespect to Max Garcia, because you know he kind of 156 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: bailed his team out. Initially, he was going to be 157 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: a backup. He's never played center before. Out of necessity 158 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: he played center. I give us a lot of credits 159 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: to Seanna Harlowe. But there were times when you know 160 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Max was playing right guard and he was just getting beat. 161 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: And again, you're going against Aaron Donald and you play 162 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: in the NFC West, You're going against these really good 163 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: front sevens, and so no disrespect. But Will Hernandez is 164 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: an upgrade over Max Garcia body wise and age wise. 165 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: And again credit to Max Urc. He's carved in a 166 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: nice career for him, a great guy in the locker room. 167 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: He's battle injuries. So hopefully he gets an opportunity to 168 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: play with the Giants younger than Garcia. Hernandez twenty six 169 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: will be twenty seven when the season begins. And then 170 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: there's just a size sixty three, three hundred thirty two pounds. 171 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean this, he is massive. Had a chance to 172 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: meet him earlier, and you shake hands with the man 173 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: and his hand just envelopes your right hand, and you know, 174 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: nice guy, and it certainly sounds like he has one 175 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: of those switches, like you know, very respectful, well mannered 176 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: polites off the field, and then when the game kicks off, 177 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: it's like a different mentality and I'm ready to go 178 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: to work and I don't care who you are lining 179 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: up against me, I am going to beat you. And 180 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: that is just the mentality that you have to have 181 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: that winning those one on one battles man, you're on 182 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: point today. That's a good observation because I just talked 183 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: to A Scott before I came down here. He told 184 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: me he has violent hands. Violent hands. Well, they were 185 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: soft when he shook my hand, but you don't want 186 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: to be but their meat hooks, Yes they are. He 187 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: does have short arms, and that's okay. Playing inside. You 188 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: want to have thirty three inch arms when you're playing 189 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: on the outside because as a left tackle, you can 190 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: get in your in your pro set and you can 191 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: utilize it inside. Sometimes small or shorter hands are better 192 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: or you don't let the guy get inside of you. 193 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: But I think if you had a project, I would 194 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: think he's probably more of a run blocker. He's a maler. 195 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: He's got the size to maul you and you run 196 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: behind him, and then eventually he's gonna have to figure 197 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: out Kyler Murray. And he was excited to say playing 198 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. But we know it takes a little 199 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: bit of adjustment. Even for Rodney Hudson D Hump or 200 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: humphreeze because you just don't know he's gonna take off. 201 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: You got to you gotta hold your set or if 202 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: it's pass prol you gotta make sure you protect so 203 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, that that's exact. He's got violent hands. By 204 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: the way, I tell a Q Shipley about short arms, 205 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: that was to knock on Aq. They'd always try to 206 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: bring in something, you know what. He wanted him out 207 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: and he just kept winning. He was an under overachiever. 208 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: He looked like a bowling ball and he didn't take 209 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: crap from anybody. He was very determined and he would 210 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: go after Aaron Donald. He may have lost, but I 211 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: guarantee Aaron Donald after that game said, you know what, 212 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: you gave me a fight, even though you may not 213 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: won five out of ten times. And you keep bringing 214 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: up Pro Football Focus and I know there's a love 215 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: hate relationship with offensive lineman and it might be more 216 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: hate when you talk about that with Justin Pugh in 217 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: the locker room, but yeah, it's all his His Pro 218 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: Football Focus grade was not great last season. Now, I 219 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: just gave a lot of different reasons why you're transpired. Yeah, 220 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: and then you're like, okay, well, what as you're watching 221 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: the game. You don't know what the individual assignment is 222 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: you pection exactly, so it's very it's very difficult to 223 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: kind of know all of a sudden grade good player, 224 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: bad player. Listen, analytics a big part of the game. 225 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to sit here and just throw dirt 226 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: on pro foot. They listen. They always told they watch 227 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: film diligently. The problem is that they know what they're 228 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: watching and they should hire former head coaches or coordinators. 229 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: And they tried and gun. Their cutting had passed away. 230 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: Bruce Katkowski was there. He's a quarterback. You take a 231 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: former defensive coordinack Wade Phillips and put him in there. 232 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: He knows how to watch film. But again, it's a tool. 233 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: All thirty two teams use it and they cross track 234 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: the coaches film with their films. It's not the Bible, though, 235 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: It's a tool. Guy like that term tool. It's much 236 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: like when you're talking about the NFL draft and how 237 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: much information can you get. It is the combine. It 238 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: is your pro day, but the biggest tool is your 239 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: game film. What you did on Saturday or Friday or 240 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: Thursday night on the college ranks. So all parts of 241 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how you can best utilize Will 242 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: Hernandez within this offense. And as large as he is, 243 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: I do think he's fairly movable as far as athleticism, 244 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: and he understands with Kyler Murray back there, you're gonna 245 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: have to be a little bit more mobile than you 246 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: were last season with Daniel Jones or even Colton McCoy. 247 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: And that's another thing the connection. Twenty Hernandez and Colt 248 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: McCoy teammates had another teammate, Marcus Golden. They spent a 249 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: season and a half together with the Giants. So here's 250 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: someone that is new to the team, but he already 251 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: knows when he walks into the locker room there will 252 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: be familiar faces looking back at him. So where it's 253 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: not the transition is going to be overwhelming. He's gonna 254 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: know one what is expected and two and he's actually 255 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: bring up from Las Vegas. He mentioned during his Zoom 256 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: press conference he visited Phoenix quite a bit, had family 257 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: growing up that lived in Arizona, Sea, is familiar with 258 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: the roundings. So I don't think the transition is going 259 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: to be a big deal whatsoever. No, and and the 260 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: fact that he wanted to be here. Now. He did 261 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: say that, you know, the Giants sounded like with a 262 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: new regime, new head coach and a new general manager, 263 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: they really probably didn't kick the tires and they got 264 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: they had the same scouts and ability, and they say, listen, 265 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: it's time to move on. His rookue contract expired. But 266 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: he did say if possibly, if if they would have offered, 267 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: he would have considered it. But it worked out this way. 268 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: And sometimes you know, I would say the grass isn't 269 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: a greener, but here there's a relationship and he could 270 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: win the starting job, and I think that's the plan, 271 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: but he's got to earn it first. All right, let's 272 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: touch on that because right now, I think the offensive 273 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: line and you're starting five is sets. And if you 274 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: want some question marks, that's fine, because you maybe put 275 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: a question market right guard. And I know there's some 276 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: thought process that Josh Jones. Is he a guard? Is 277 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: he a tackle? If you move him to tackle? Can 278 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: he beat out Kelvin Beacham this upcoming season that is 279 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say the wild card, but what this team 280 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: decides to do with Josh Jones, former third round pick, 281 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: this is a huge offseason and a huge season ahead 282 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: for one Josh Jones. Cliff Kingsbury at the end of 283 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: the season asked about Jones, quote, we need him next 284 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: year to really step up end quote question is though 285 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: at what position? Can he be? Starting guard? Can he 286 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: be starting tackle? You got to figure it out sooner 287 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: rather than later, because there might be another offensive lineman 288 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: drafted or several offensive lineman drafted and the next month 289 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: or so, well, he's not going to beat Calvin Beachham out. 290 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: I think Beacham was one of their better offensive lineman 291 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: last year. And going back to Pro Football focus came 292 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: the Rodney Hudson. There were some low snaps. He's playing 293 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: with broken ribs, but look at how many pressures he 294 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: gave up. And he doesn't have the greatest grade, but 295 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: look at the pressures he gave There was the U 296 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: in the pocket. Unfortunately towards the end, when you're shuffling 297 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: the line nine different times, there's going to be pressure 298 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: and they're coming up the middle and they're coming off 299 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: the edge. So yeah, to me, I would have him 300 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: compete at right guard with Hernandez and then if he 301 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: doesn't win the job, then you have you know the 302 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: address eight on game day, he could play right guard, 303 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: he could play right tackle. But the Cardinals also if 304 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: if they want to bring Justin Murray back, he could 305 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: play four different positions. We don't talk about Josh Mouse. 306 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean last year beat him got a chance to 307 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: start when Hump was out in the Cowboys game and 308 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: he held the Marcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory shut him out. 309 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean, so Justin Murray's kind of well. But I 310 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: would think when camps, when it really when they put 311 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: the pads on, you're gonna see Hernandez line up. But 312 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: they could alternate, rotate, and then Josh Jones should get 313 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: a ton of time in the preseason, a ton of 314 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: time at both positions, or you just early on that decision. 315 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: All right, we don't see him as a guard, he's 316 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: a tackle. No, I would if he's well, something happens 317 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: to Hernandez, he's the first guy in then unless Justin Murray. 318 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna play him at guard in 319 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: the first half and then in the second half if 320 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: Josh Miles as backup left tackle, and I'm gonna play 321 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: him at right tackle, just to get him experience because 322 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: once the season starts you're one play away. You also 323 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: have Danny Azidora and Kulda Martin on the roster as 324 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: far as guard play now tackles, Josh Miles, the seventh 325 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 1: round pick in twenty nineteen, and then Justin Murray who 326 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: played some right tackle for the Cardinals in twenty nineteen 327 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: as well, and Josh Jones. So you do have enough bodies, 328 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: just just a matter of trying to figure out all right, 329 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: well future wise after this season, and we don't like 330 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: to look too far ahead, but as we talk about, 331 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: the only offensive lineman that is under contract past this 332 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: season is Rodney Hudson. So you're gonna have a hole 333 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: at left tackle, gonna have a little hole at right tackle, 334 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: and potentially a hole at left guard and right guard 335 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: this time a year from now. And you know just 336 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: and so that's why I bring up Josh Jones. You 337 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: have to figure out what you have, otherwise you need 338 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: to cut bait and go in another different direction. I 339 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: would think they would try to extend Humphries. He's the 340 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: perfect age. We knew this was going to happen. He's 341 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: got to play better. He didn't play as well as 342 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: he had in previous years, and you needed to have 343 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: COVID and you know, obviously he didn't have his right 344 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: hand man and Justin Pugh out there every week, so 345 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: that that's in a factor because now you're trying to 346 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: cover for someone. This could be Justin Pugh's last year, 347 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: just based on his contract and possibly you know, just 348 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: getting up there in age. I think he would still 349 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: like to play and finish his career in Arizona. I 350 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: don't know for sure. I think if Hernandez plays well, 351 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: he's definitely a guy you would like to extend. I 352 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna try to go out there and 353 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, break the bank. And Calvin Beecham, he's got 354 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot going on off the field. He's still playing 355 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: at a high level. I would try to retain him. 356 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: But again, when you look at twenty three, people are 357 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: and say, well, if you've got a draft a guy 358 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: at twenty three better play, right, Well, there's a lot 359 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: of good offering tackles, so you'd be set up if 360 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Beecham decides to retire. But I think you can get 361 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: a tackle. It's so deep at offensive tackle. I think 362 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: you can a tackle on a third or fourth round. 363 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: But you're right, you gotta start planning for the future. 364 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: It's interesting you bring up offensive lineman, offensive guard, or 365 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: even offensive tackle at number twenty three because you know, 366 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: when you look at this year versus years down the road, 367 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: this is the last year we think of that quote 368 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: unquote cheap contract salary for Kyler Murray to where now 369 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: is the time if you want to really make some 370 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: moves as you get closer to free excuse me, closer 371 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: to training camp, or something should happen in your need 372 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: to acquire somebody during the season, you can fit them 373 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: under the salary cap. Because Kyler Murray's not making what 374 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: we anticipate him to be making in a year or 375 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: two from now. So that first round pick play Week one, 376 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: wide receiver, cornerback, pass rusher, pass rusher, or is it 377 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: someone drops to you and you've got an offensive guard 378 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: or an offensive tackle that you're like, our grades are 379 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: so high, we need to take him. And if it 380 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: means that we've got DJ Humphries all over again to 381 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: where we don't see him on the football field at 382 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: all in twenty twenty two, it's gonna be a pr 383 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: hit and you're gonna take some slings and arrows. But 384 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: the hope is that that person becomes your starter for 385 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: the next seven eight years after this season. Now, that's 386 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: that's what they talk about now and will up until 387 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: draft day, and those as Bron Whippley likes to say, 388 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: the long rectangle table. Again, though they've drafted two guys 389 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: in the first round over the last couple of years, 390 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: you got to hit on these guys. So again, I 391 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: think you can find Lyneman in the second, third, or 392 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: fourth round. I think if you don't get a number 393 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: two receiver, and even if they sign ag green receivers 394 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: on the board, there could be eight receivers off the board. 395 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: Cornerbacks there could be six or seven. I guess when 396 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: you look at the wide receivers, edge rushers. So again, 397 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: I understand, but I this guy better be like Jonathan Ogden, 398 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna get him at twenty three. But 399 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: there are really Now, I like the green guy from 400 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: Texas A and M. I mean, he would be the 401 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: perfect fit. But I just think by signing Hernandez, it 402 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: gives you a little flexibility. I still want the Cardinals 403 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: to draft someone, but I don't know if I want 404 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: that to be alignment in the first round. Well, so 405 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: far as we look at mock drafts, and everyone has 406 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: a mock draft. I paid attention to four. Really, at 407 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: least for me, you're a smart man. Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, 408 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: mel Kiper Junior, and Todd McShay. I mean, those are 409 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: the four that I look at, and I know there's 410 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: like forty four, fifty four, sixty whatever. I'll throw in 411 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, okay, because he actually he's a smart guy 412 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: and he found a former coach that showed him how 413 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: to watch film, so he's really done a nice job 414 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: with the athletic I got a chance to sit down 415 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: with him at the combine watching the forty times. So 416 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: he's a guy up and coming. Obviously he's not on 417 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: the network or he's not on NFL dot com. But again, 418 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: you don't have to go that what I'm saying, he's 419 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: he's actually like Jeremiah, he studies film, Jeremiah was a 420 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: former scout. Kuyper obviously studies film, Mshay obviously talks to 421 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: gms and personnel guys. But yeah, I would agree with 422 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: that with those four. So far, with these mocks that 423 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: I follow, offensive Lineman has not been mocked to the 424 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals it's been a wide receiver, edge rusher, cornerback, defensive end, 425 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. So offensive lineman is not something that many 426 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: out there. Again, you're kind of doing this. What does 427 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: a team need? Who's available? So offensive line? Right now, 428 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: amongst those four names, have not put an offensive lineman 429 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: next to the aarro was on a cardinal's name. Okay, 430 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: so let's say hypothetically they were able to retain aj 431 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Green and Robert Alford. Now, Alfred shouldn't affect your your 432 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: or Green affect your status in the future. So on 433 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: the offense, they basically need probably another offensive line, which 434 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: you can get in the mid rounds, and then they 435 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: need a wide receiver, whether he's three or two or 436 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: three or four. Right, Okay, defense, d lineman, edge rush, 437 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: your corner. So they're probably gonna go heavy on defense 438 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: in the early rounds of this draft. It wouldn't surprise 439 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: me if they took a running back. They wouldn't surprive anything. 440 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: They drafted a quarterback in the seventh round. Really, oh 441 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: boy boy, that'll be an interesting story. Are you gonna 442 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: have three on the roster and some teams do take 443 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: four to camps? Well, and if they have a rookie 444 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: Mini Camp. I mean, I don't know the situation with 445 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: Trace McSorley, but I know that they worked out or 446 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: talked to a couple. There are guys they You'd have 447 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 1: to be a scout to know who they are. By 448 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: the way, as we speak here on Cardinals Covered two 449 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: presented by Honday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, it 450 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: is Monday, March twenty eighth. We are exactly one month 451 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: away from the twenty twenty two NFL Draft in Las Vegas. Yeah, 452 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: we were walking through the lobby and they had the 453 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and I'm like, that was so long ago. Okay, 454 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: NFL network needs content, just like they got the owner's meetings. 455 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: That's true. We'll get to that in a moment. But 456 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: also on the draft, if you're planning ahead, again, it's April, 457 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: the end of April, but if you really want to 458 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: get ahead of yourself, MJ next year's draft, Kansas City, 459 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: April twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty ninth, two years from now. 460 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: The NFL at the annual League Meeting in Florida, announcing 461 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: that the twenty twenty four NFL Draft will be in Detroit. 462 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: No dates given yet, but if you're looking and you 463 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: plan to follow along, Detroit biggas Kansas City, Detroit are 464 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: the Detroit outbid Washington. Yeah, I can't remember how many 465 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: teams were interested, but this has become a thing, much 466 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: like the super Bowl. It's gonna it's gonna rote it. 467 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think the Draft, though, is gonna 468 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: be more not too much like the super Bowl to 469 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, ten eleven cities because you 470 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: want warm weather. I do think they'll be more open 471 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: and free moving. I think every team is getting an 472 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: opportunity if they want to host the NFL. Well, I mean, 473 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: if you just said that the combines in Detroit, which 474 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the difference of Indianapolis, it's it's I mean, 475 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: let's I know, Detroit's a blue collar town and they're 476 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna be on hard knocks, yes, and I'm looking forward 477 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 1: to Dan Campbell. They're gonna break any kneecaps anyways. They 478 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: can showcase it. I mean it's a motor city. I 479 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: mean there's a lot, they have a lot of nice 480 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: things there. People just look at Detroit because it's gloomy. 481 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: But I'm happy for Detroit because that's a franchise that 482 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: obviously hasn't won a lot of games, but hopefully they're 483 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: heading in the right direction. So that was a now earlier. 484 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: The annual league meeting going on through Wednesday in Palm Beach, Florida. 485 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Really a tough gig if you could make your way. 486 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: Some of the screenshots, some of the pictures leaders. Yet 487 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: it's not but this way, there are worse places to 488 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: be than Palm Beach, Florida, if you are it's not 489 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: the biltmore. It is not. Though that was a lot 490 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: of fun. A couple of years back. They'll be back. 491 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: What was that? How long ago was that the last? 492 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: That was the last time that everyone gathered together? Correct? 493 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen been Kingsbury's first year. Kingsbury's first year, that's right. 494 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: Remember he had breakfast with us? Yes, did he eat? 495 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: I don't think he did. I think there was just 496 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: a play of food next to him and it just 497 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: sat there for an hour as he uh as he 498 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: answered questions for an hour. Speaking of Cliff Kingsbury, did 499 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: you happen to catch the head coaches group photo? Yeah, 500 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm always fascinating with this. Not every head coach photographed. 501 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh front and center, as to be expect sunglasses. 502 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: You win the Super Bowl season that the tallest guy. No, 503 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: well yeah, but okay because a height or because he 504 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Well look look at the guy 505 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: standing in the back. They're taller. Well, Cliff in the 506 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: back next to Pete Carroll, Well he's not very tall. 507 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: But Cliff wearing shorts. First time I've ever seen the 508 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: Cardinals head coach wearing shorts. I didn't notice it. I 509 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: noticed he was wearing sunglasses. So he's always rocking sunglasses. 510 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: You see Belichick was wearing shorts today, but we've seen 511 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: Belichick in shorts. BA used to wear shorts in practice. Kingsbury, No, 512 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: it's always long sleeve. You know. That's right. He's always 513 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: got those h's always covered. He's always got those tight 514 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: pants on. I mean it was I mean even walking 515 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: around the facility, Kingsbury, You're right, we don't see him. 516 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: He's always got sweats on. I don't know. You know, 517 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: they say you do a self scouting the end of 518 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: the season. Maybe this is part of his self Was 519 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: he wearing because he doesn't wear socks? Right? I did 520 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: not could not see that. But yeah, he doesn't typically 521 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: wear a socks. Now, this is by far the most 522 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: we've ever talked about Cliff Kingsbury's wardrobe here on Cardinals Coups. Well, okay, 523 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: so two thousand and seventeen, right, I posted on Facebook 524 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: so I could always get these memories. So I looked 525 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: at it in twenty seventeen, the picture twenty coaches are 526 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: no longer head coaches in the National Football League. They 527 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: were only twelve. And in that picture there was no 528 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Belichick and Pete Carroll. And I thought to myself, 529 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: all three of those guys won Super Bowl. They need 530 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: to show up an arian, Yeah, an Arians, but yeah, 531 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: Craig twenty. I mean that was to Steve Wilkeshire. Yes, 532 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean he Doug Morone and Pat Shermer and Anthony Lynn. 533 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: It's like, wow, And that's that's only four years go. 534 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: Twenty coaches aren't a longer head coaches in the league. 535 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: And then you got Andy Reid and all these guys 536 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: that are lessed for a long Sean McDermott. Now you know, 537 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: you look at Mike Tomlinka, the NFL stands for not 538 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: for long exactly. All I have to dude, is look 539 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: at that group photo of head coaches at the annual 540 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: league meeting and go, okay, well a lot of changes there, uh. 541 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: Speaking of head coaches, the AFC head coaches met the 542 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: media on Monday. My guess is the NFC will meet 543 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: the media on Tuesday. We'll see if anything comes out 544 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: of that. But there is actually some breaking Cardinals news 545 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: as announced by an AFC head coach, Titans head coach 546 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: Mike Rabel telling reporters that the Buccaneers and the Cardinals 547 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: will be holding joint practices the third week of training camp. 548 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: Now I don't know if he meant like all three 549 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: teams like, but the third week of training camp going 550 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: into that third game Titans, Buccaneers and Cardinals. Now, I 551 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: know this is something that you've long want to see 552 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: and it's just not feasible here in Arizona based off 553 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: of weather and then space. But the Cardinals to be 554 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: able to do what they did back in twenty sixteen 555 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: practice with the Chargers, and I'll get to the last 556 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: time that they were in Nashville for joint practices in 557 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: a moment because some history there as well. But the 558 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: fact that this team is going to hold joint practices. 559 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't going to happen in Cliffs first year, but 560 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: after that first year, it has been on this team's 561 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: radar because I do think it gives you a better 562 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: gauge and you can get better in a joint practice 563 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: than you can during the preseason game. Yeah. I think 564 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: it was because the pandemic too. Even though you know 565 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: the Rams and Cowboys they're proximite Dallas Is and Ox 566 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: and Art and then now and the Chargers. You know 567 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: obviously they train in southern California. Yeah, this is ideal 568 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: for me because you got to assume it's going to 569 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: be the second or third preseason game. Last year, the 570 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals played the Cowboys in Chiefs and then the Saints 571 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: game got canceled because obviously the weather and the plane 572 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: had to turn around. So you but to me, I 573 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: always mentioned this, I can put my number one receiver 574 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: against your number one corner. I can think there's individual 575 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: drills where your pass rusher against goal against the left 576 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: tackle d lineman. You can you can just line up 577 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: your ear go seven out of seven where you can 578 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: just have your receivers and running backs going against their 579 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: their their seven seven out of seven. So and you 580 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: won't get that in the preseason game. Normally that you 581 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: don't see starters playing that third preseason game. They may 582 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: play a series. We know that Kyler Murray last year 583 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: and as a whole, played eleven snaps against the Chiefs 584 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: and it caused a you know, people were yelling flare 585 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: and why didn't we analyze those eleven snaps for weeks 586 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: on end three and out and all that other stuff. 587 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: And we can talk about the drop, but Christian Kirk, 588 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why I remember this stuff. But anyways, yeah, 589 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: I think it's good. And you know, in fairness, you 590 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: really couldn't do it on clips first year. He was 591 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: installing a new offense. But it's always good. And when 592 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: those actice has happened. Now you can scout the other 593 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: team when those guys become free agents, because they will 594 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: not play the Titans that share more information. As we 595 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: talk about, it's all about information gathering. You don't think 596 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: Belichick schedules two or three every year. Now, he had 597 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: a relationship with Matt Patricia, so he would do the Lions. Now, 598 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: some of those there's a gentleman's agreement no fighting, although 599 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: there was a fight that did impact one of those 600 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: joint practices last year between the Buccaneers and Titans. So well, 601 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: things do get a little bit well. At first, everyone's 602 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: excited because you know the old saying, I want to 603 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: look at another jersey in the helmet and logo and 604 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: see another face and I want to go up against 605 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: that guy because he's so postly one of the top 606 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: corners in football. It's just the second day you start 607 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: to get under somebody's skin and then you know, and 608 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: there's referees out there, and what you want don't want 609 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: to do is you don't want anybody to throw a 610 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: punch and break his bak, his wristers, his hand. But 611 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: then you also want to you don't want to have 612 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: anybody on the ground because that's where guys could take 613 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: angled up. So it's going to be a gentleman's agreement 614 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, let's put the work 615 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: in and hopefully nobody gets injured. Now full disclosure, the 616 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals haven't confirmed any of this, but if one head 617 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: coach says it's going to happen, perhaps maybe the other 618 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 1: head coach I e. Cliff Kingsbury will acknowledge it at 619 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: some point sooner rather than later. It's just a matter 620 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: of the timing of this. Do the Cardinals play at 621 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: the Titans in that second preseason game and just stay 622 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: there for some joint practices or is it joint practices 623 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: leading into that third preseason game? And the Cardinals will 624 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: have two road games in the preseason, just one home game. 625 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: Last year it was the opposite. Two home games, one 626 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: road game, And that's something that the league is going 627 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: to alternate back and forth. Some years you'll get two 628 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: and then the next year you'll get one. Yeah, and 629 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: we mentioned Cowboys in Chiefs and then they got the game. 630 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Can normally it happens before the game, So depending on 631 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: the schedule, do they do they play on a Friday, Saturday, 632 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: or Sunday. You'll go in there at least two or 633 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: three days early. Usually that first day you're kind of 634 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: just getting set up and then you'll probably get in 635 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: three to four or five practices against the Titans or 636 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: the opponent. Here's what Mike Rabel had to say. Quote, 637 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw what Arizona did us the first 638 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: week of the season. This is a talented team, a 639 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: fast team. End quote. Ye also had some nice things 640 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: to say about the Buccaneers as well. But it's Mike 641 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: Rabel looking at his team and looking all right, how 642 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: can we get better. Let's go for a son former 643 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion team in Tampa Bay. Let's look at 644 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals who beat us thirty eight to thirteen in 645 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: Week one. We obviously talking about the Tans. Weren't ready. 646 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 1: Let's get ready for the start of the season. Yeah, 647 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good tune up because you know, 648 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: people going into that game, people thought they were gonna 649 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: be in the Super Bowl contention, and they were in 650 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: a number one seed. Unfortunately, they just turn the ball 651 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: over three times. And if they don't turn it over, 652 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: maybe they're playing it in the AFC Championship game. It 653 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: would have been tough probably to beat the Bengals, well 654 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: they would have knocked him out, but maybe the Chiefs 655 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: or the Bills. But yeah, yeah, I mean, and again 656 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: they after that game, Derrick Henry ran wild. So you 657 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: got to give the Cardinals a ton of credit because 658 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: they planned for that for about three to four months 659 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: and that was the goal. Acquiring J. J. Watt and 660 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: obviously having a health they ran their Jones and Marcus 661 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: Cold and everyone else that they wanted to go in 662 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: there and send a message that was the biggest two 663 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: things with leadership and physicality this year that more filling 664 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: out retain their own players because they have those guys 665 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: on the roster. Now, I did mention this is will 666 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: not be the first time that the Cardinals have held 667 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: joint practices with the Titans in Nashville. I know you're 668 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: familiar with this, MJ. You've got a rock solid memory 669 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: when it comes the Arizona Cardinals. But twenty ten, the 670 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals held a week of training camp practices in Nashville 671 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: against the Titans. Twenty ten. That was also the time 672 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: in which Matt Leinert Well, he was benched in a 673 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: preseason game prior to that, and he would ultimately get 674 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: released a few weeks later. He was not happy about 675 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: getting replaced by Derek Anderson. There was some was an 676 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: impromptu press conference by a tree in Nashville. I know 677 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: Paul Paul Calvci was out there, but that's something that 678 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: that joint practice is remembered for the end of the 679 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: Matt Linered era and to a lesser extent, at the 680 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: beginning of the Derek Anderson era. Yeah, I guess you know. 681 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the first day, but 682 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: maybe it was the second day. The Titan players were 683 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: calling him out, calling him mister checkdown. He would not 684 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. That's when you try it. Yeah, 685 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: he was the chances in. Dave Brown always told me. 686 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: He always told his young quarterbacks, when you come in, 687 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: you see a guy open, throw it to him. Don't 688 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: worry about it. Well, here's a tenth overall pick in 689 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: the draft. I don't want to see it a nood alarm, 690 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: but a lot of times his ball would float. It's 691 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: a little bit different coming out of the left hand, 692 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: but he would. He would not. At that point, he 693 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: was playing scared, to be honest with you, because he 694 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: didn't want to lose his job, and he's just like, 695 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: I just want to get through these practices. No, take 696 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: some chances. That's the only way you're going to get better. 697 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: I could guarantee one thing again, if this does happen, 698 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: and there's no reason to discount what Mike Rabel is saying, 699 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: I am willing to wager that the Cardinals will not 700 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: have any quarterback controversy come out of that joint practice. 701 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is not going to be losing a job, 702 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: not gonna get benched, and that's gonna hold some press 703 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: conference and speak up, speak out, speak against. So I 704 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: think the things will be like smoother, Craig if Rabel 705 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: come out with this. Don't you think there's some planning 706 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 1: involved here? Oh? I'm sure, right, but just nothing confirmed 707 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals. But I mean, who knows. Sounds like 708 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: they're playing the Titans in the preseason. Can we say that? Oh? Yeah, 709 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying it's a trip to Nashville 710 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: at some point, and you don't play him during the season. 711 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: Usually he started dre Geographically, they played the Cowboys and 712 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs usually always end up with the Broncos. There's been 713 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: times they've gone cross country. It would have been New Orleans, 714 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: would have been I guess, you know, the South. But yeah, 715 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: that's an interesting because you try to keep teams close 716 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: because of travel. But in this case it makes total sense. 717 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: Cardinals do play the Buccaneers though, And I don't think 718 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: this is three again. I don't know, maybe maybe I'm 719 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: miss speaking here, but I don't think it's three teams. No, 720 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: you can't practice, No, No, it's it's one week against 721 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers and then one week against the Cardinals. This 722 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: isn't matter of the timing asks. Yes, and maybe they 723 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: play the Bucks in the first or second preseason game, 724 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: or the card to play the Cardinals, but the Bucks 725 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: are coming to State Farm Stadium. Yes, Tom Brady will 726 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: have a regular season game final State Farm Stadium for 727 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: the first time, only because he came out of retirement. Hey, 728 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: one last note on the annual league meeting, because there's 729 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: not expected to be a lot of news when it 730 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: comes to the competition committee and rules and everything, but 731 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: it does sound and again, maybe there's nothing that happens 732 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 1: with overtime, but it is certainly a hot button issue 733 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: and a talking point this week that there are teams 734 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: Colts and Eagles have both submitted proposals of changing so 735 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: we don't get another one and done, meaning you win 736 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: the coin toss, you get the possession, you score touchdown 737 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: games over and the other team never gets an opportunity 738 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: to touch the football. There's a good segment out there. 739 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's twenty four owners that will 740 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: vote to change that, but there is a sentiment that 741 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: we are getting closer and closer to where overtime will 742 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: be tweaked. Maybe not this year, but eventually. Yeah. Well 743 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: was the Chiefs game. If they would have went down 744 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: and scored, then people would have went nuts. Yeah. I 745 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: was listening to Belichick today and he's like, they're asking 746 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: him and he was in mid season. For him, it 747 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: was Jara Bell from the USA Today who was covered 748 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: the league for a long time. He goes, what are 749 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Well, we talked about it yesterday. 750 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? He goes on, I haven't changed 751 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: my thoughts, And he said, well, what are your like 752 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: if you haven't changed your thoughts, what are your thoughts? 753 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: And he's he wouldn't answer them. So it sounds like 754 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: Belichick's old school. Now there is one two both teams 755 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: touched the ball. The Colts and Eagles would like to 756 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: see both teams possessed the ball, and then the Titans 757 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: also would like to see both teams possessed the ball 758 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: unless the team with the first possession scores a touchdown 759 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: and a successful two point try. So those are the 760 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: two proposals that are being discussed, and maybe there's something 761 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: that comes out that it is completely different than those. 762 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: Those are the two proposals that are out there. Yeah, 763 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: the competition committee meets throughout the year. Those the owners 764 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: can come up with their own if they choose to. True. Right, 765 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: but you were thought we'd hear something by now. True. 766 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: The by laws are these. This is what they're the 767 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: twenty four votes you need seventy five out of one hundred. 768 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: I still think you got to play defense. I'm an 769 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: old school I guess. I mean, it's just I understand 770 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: if you don't win the coin toss, it's I mean, 771 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: I get it, but you gotta play defense. I mean 772 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: it's special teams. I don't know. I mean, you kick 773 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: a field goal, then they get an opportunity to get 774 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: on to score. I get it. But it's above my 775 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: pay grade. And those are like champagne problems. Mike Tomlin, 776 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: the Steeler's head coach, likes to what you said. He 777 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: likes the current format. This is what he told reporters 778 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: on Monday. Quote, I don't fear sudden death. I don't know. 779 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: Maybe he's talking about just life in general. I don't know. 780 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: But the reason why this is so up in arms 781 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: is because it's not what happens in the regular season. 782 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: It's what happens in the postseason, and I found this 783 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: interest in the NFL research and there have been one 784 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three games including the plasts, but there 785 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: have only been eleven playoff games that have gone into 786 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: overtime under this current system. Eleven games. Well. Ten of 787 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: those eleven games, the team that won the coin toss 788 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: won the game, meaning they do well. Ten teams that 789 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: won the coin toss won the game. Seven of those 790 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: ten teams scored a touchdown on the opening drive. So 791 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: that's you're looking when you're looking at the percentages, and 792 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: it's a small sample size, and that's what they want. 793 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: They don't want another Chiefs Bill's moments where you see 794 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Josh Allen on the sideline, didn't even get a chance, 795 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, you forced overtime, lose the coin toss, or 796 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Patriot Storm all the way back against the 797 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: Falcons won the coin toss and Matt Ryan sitting there 798 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: on the bench going, what the heck? Play defense? All right? 799 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this regular season no overtime. I 800 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: like that, and I can't remember who mentioned it, but 801 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: I would have you're fine with ties because there's seventeen games. 802 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: If you have, if you have, if you you can't. 803 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: You can't have ties in the postseason. No, And if 804 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: you if you're worried about players safety, then just and 805 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: I can't remember who it was, just play the regular 806 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: season as is, end of regulation, the games tied, it's 807 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: a tie. Okay, to tie, get to the postseason. End 808 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 1: of regulation, it's a tie. Ten minutes on the clock. 809 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: You play a full quarter, play a fifth quarter for 810 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: a full ten minutes, and if it's still tied after that, 811 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: then you play a sixth quarter. Even if I go 812 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: down and score correct, I want I will sell ten minutes. 813 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: You're asking these guys to play seventy minutes in January. 814 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean their bodies. Oh, I get it. I mean 815 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: they put it this way. There is no easy solutions 816 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: to us where everyone is going to be happy. I 817 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: mean it's but it's not like we have like ten 818 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: teams coming up with these rule change. I mean they've 819 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: changed rules every single year. Yeah, it's always you know, 820 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: it's all geared towards offense. You can't touch the guy, 821 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: can't hit the quarterback anymore. It's okay that they want scoring, 822 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: and I get it. We'll see, but you still got 823 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: to play defense. Yeah, defense wins championships, right, we think 824 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, Yes, s S Joe Burrow. So 825 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: we'll see if something transpires this week. Again, they are 826 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: meeting through Wednesday. But the only real news we think, 827 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe there's a surprise would be over time 828 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: and whether there's a tweak to that. Yeah, and I'm 829 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: curious to see. Um. I think they may have a 830 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: fourteen man practice squadron of if it's going to be 831 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: sixteen again, it could be fourteen, but that's good because 832 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: usually that was for COVID, So that allows you to 833 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: have your fifty three man roster. And then I think 834 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: you have four evaluations where if you've been in the 835 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: league forever you can still play. So two things here. 836 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: You can go to easy Cardinals dot Com and our 837 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: social platforms. They do have the Draft day hats out. 838 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: I did see that. That's nice and nice looking at 839 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: very nice. Every year they kind of changed up a 840 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: little bit. And then also if you're somebody that stud 841 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: as analytics and you want to take a shot, the 842 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals are offering season tickets. You can go to easy 843 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com and there's a simulator and you have 844 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: to project the schedule. I'm gonna say good luck. You 845 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: gotta pick your bye week. You gotta pick. You gotta 846 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: pick every single game, homer away, all seventeen games plus 847 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: the bye week. If you are perfect, you win season tickets. Yes, okay, 848 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: I hope somebody wins. I posted on Facebook and I 849 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: had a couple of guys and it looked it looked normal, 850 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 1: like starting off on a m against a division of poem. 851 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: Maybe it is the Monday night Lake game. Um, they 852 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: had the bye week. In week ten, they had his 853 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: finishing um um against the Rams. It was interesting, but 854 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: they did. They do this like four hundred million times, 855 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: so you know when they figure it out. It's like 856 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: the mock draft thirty two picks, and how many are 857 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: actually correct, whether it's the prospect and the right slot 858 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: or the right team is like less than thirty. Yeah, 859 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: it's less than twenty. And the interesting thing is we 860 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: know over the next couple of years which teams or 861 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna be playing except for three right, yes, 862 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: the ninth game and then a team that finishes in 863 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: the same same standing as you in a different conference. 864 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: And we know we know home and away, yeah, things 865 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: to the order. We don't know the dates most difficult 866 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,439 Speaker 1: part is the order. Yeah, so that'll be fun asy 867 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com. See if you can't win some season tickets, 868 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: maybe that's something that maybe that's an exercise that you 869 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: and I should try. I was gonna I was gonna 870 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: say we try it. We'll try and see how see 871 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: how accurate we are. What do you think the over 872 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: and under? Like three? Yeah? Probably see seventeen. Yeah, well 873 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: I shoot for four. Well we got six division games, 874 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: so I shoot for every more and more every fourth 875 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: week scheduled a division game. Bird Gang, try a hand 876 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: and let us know how it all shapes that when 877 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 1: that schedule gets released sometime in May. And on that note, 878 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals 879 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,720 Speaker 1: Covered two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 880 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Momandro 881 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: for Mike Drecky, I'm Greig Riel Loup. We'll talk to 882 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: you next time you're on Cardinals Scovered two