1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: It's Week twelve and the conference is under attack. Part 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: of it internal, part of it external. But Larry Scott 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: must do something about it. Do you think he'll do it? 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: What's going on with all the recruiting rankings, who's moving up, 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: who's moving down? And we're gonna go over all the games. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: I'm George Rice Stir with Ralph Amston and this is 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve Apostles. Thank you guys for listening to 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve Apostles. This podcast is for Pack twelve people. 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: You guys, make sure that you gotta share the feed. 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: Tell a friend about the podcast, and always leave a comment. 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: Engage send us an email to I'm mad. I am 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: am a d at Unafraid show dot com. Ralph, the 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: conference is under attack right now. There's an internal attack 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: and there's an external attack. We'll start with the internal 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: attack first. That is the Pack twelve referee. I mean, 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: I can't get over what is going on. So this 17 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: week we find out that there was a referee suspended 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: and an entire crew was downgraded, whatever the hell that means. 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: And the reason why is because in the Washington State 20 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: versus Cow game, the UH after a kickoff Washington State 21 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: returned the kickoff to the fifty yard line, and then 22 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: there was a personal foul penalty assessed to a guy 23 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: who wasn't even on the field, to a number of 24 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: a player who wasn't even on the field, and then 25 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: it was given to the penalty was awarded in Cal's favor. 26 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: So and they were saying the penalty was way back. 27 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Was was way back? It was a fifteen yard penalty. 28 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: And so Washington State started the ball on their own 29 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: eight yard line, but where the ball was actually supposed 30 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: to be spotted was Cal's thirty five yard line. So 31 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: this is a fifty seven yard difference. Washington State goes down, 32 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: kicks a field goal. What do you think it would 33 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: have been much easier to score a touchdown if you 34 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: start on the other team's thirty five. So the referee 35 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: was suspended, the crew was downgraded. And this is just 36 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: literally Ralph one week after, one week after Larry Scott 37 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: made the comments saying that, yeah, I know, I know. 38 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: I sit down with David Coleman, the head of our officiating, 39 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: and I can tell you there's a significant number of 40 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: mistakes every week. Okay, so what are you gonna do 41 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: about it? I don't even know what to make it 42 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: is Ralph Pack twelves in a really weird place right now. 43 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: As far as they're officiating, you there's will and their skill. 44 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Is that that the Pack twelve refs don't want to 45 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: be better? Or is it that they can't be better? 46 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: So they've tried the carrot. The carrot is you get 47 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: better games if you do better, and that hasn't necessarily 48 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: worked out, and so now they're trying to stick. And 49 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how officiating crews react to 50 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: a suspension and a downgrading for something that could have 51 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: probably been doled out for any number of severely missed 52 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: calls across several Pack twelve games this year. This one 53 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: was egregious and it was really bad. Um. You know 54 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: last year, Um, Washington State, you know, got screwed against USC. 55 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: A couple of years before that, Washington State got a 56 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: fifth down, fifth down. You know, it's a quote Dave 57 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: Chappelle one three five and uh yeah and uh and 58 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: use that to score what ended up really being a 59 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: backbreaking touchdown against Arizona State. Um, that's not the only 60 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: weird thing that's going on in officiating right now. You know, 61 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: there's a Pack twelve replay official named Jim Fogel Chance. 62 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew this, George, but let 63 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: me paint you a picture. I just want to see 64 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: how you would feel about it. I want, I want 65 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: your gut reaction to this. What if there was a 66 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: replay official and you went to Oregon? It writes, So, 67 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: what if there was a replay official who was a 68 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: donor to University of Washington's athletic program and he was 69 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: put in charge of ultimately making serious replay decisions for 70 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: the University of Oregon? Would you feel uncomfortable with someone 71 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: who is an active donor to Washington's athletic program making 72 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: decisions about University of Oregon. Okay, Yes, people go to 73 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: their schools, they're proud of their schools, and we have 74 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: to assume that people have some integrity in these situations. 75 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you are an active donor, 76 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: I think that there needs to be some distance between 77 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: you and the university when you are when you are 78 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: in a position to adjudicate matters, because there's a big difference. 79 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, because imagine if this dude was making a 80 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: call that ended up you know, you know, like a game, 81 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: like a replay call. I think when when zach Ertz 82 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: was playing, when Stanford was playing against Oregon, zach Ertz 83 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: that controversial touchdown the end the game when Andrew Luck 84 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: was there. I imagine if he were making that call, 85 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: I'd be piste the hell off because that was that 86 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: That was sketchy. Okay, So what about last year's Arizona 87 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: State Oregon game where Frank Darby caught that two point 88 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: conversion inbounds and it went to replay and it wasn't overturned. 89 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: What if I told you that that replay officials name 90 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: is Jim fogel Chance, that he works a bunch of 91 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: Arizona State games, and that he has two degrees from 92 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: the University of Arizona and he's a donor to their 93 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: athletic program. Out. Oh oh, that looks really bad. That 94 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: looks really bad, bro. I mean, so I'm telling you 95 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: this right now while we have this other issue playing 96 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: out in public with what happened in cal versus Washington 97 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: State Ray Anderson and Arizona State President Michael Crowe have 98 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: been on Larry Scott. They've been I mean, this is 99 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: this is out there. They have been calling him for 100 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: the last two weeks to try to get Jim fogl 101 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: chants off of Arizona State games. He was the one 102 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: that was responsible for making the decision at the end 103 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: of the game that Christian Rector actually kept possession of 104 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: the interception the end of the the the USC victory 105 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: over Arizona State, and he's set to be up in 106 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: the booth for Arizona State Oregon in two weeks, so 107 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: it's there are issues of keeping keep them up there 108 00:07:54,920 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: for two more weeks. But I'd just so there's this 109 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: there's this battle that's playing out in public right now, 110 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you there's also another battle that's playing 111 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: out in in private that that you know, at least 112 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: Arizona State. And I think that anybody can be sympathetic 113 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: to that that just as a fan, what if somebody 114 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: who donated to your rival was responsible for making critical 115 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: calls um for your team. So there's this other thing 116 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: that's playing out in private that while Larry Scott is 117 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: publicly posturing that Pack twelve officiating needs an adjustment and 118 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: he's out here publicly suspending one person, in private, he's 119 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: he's he's turning around and telling Ray Anderson and Michael 120 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Crow Hey, tough titties, guys, and so you know. I 121 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: what it makes me wonder is how much of the 122 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: punishment that's going to be going on for officials who 123 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: blow calls is just to get some of the heat 124 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: off of himself. How serious is Larry Scott about cleaning 125 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: up some of the officiating in the Pact twelve? Oh 126 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: my lord, Ralph, this is okay. So when you put 127 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: it like you put it, see, here's the here's the thing. 128 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: There's no controversy until there's a controversy. So if if 129 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: he were not making weird calls or something against Arizona State, 130 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: nobody would notice. So it's one of those things that 131 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: if you do your job properly, with integrity and and objectively, 132 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: if you're if you are a person who can do that, 133 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: then yes you can be in that job. But if not, 134 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: then you gotta go like if there's any hint of 135 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: impropriety when it comes to replay officials referees. I mean, 136 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: you have seen the NFL and Soccer take people off 137 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: of games because they have a Facebook picture from five 138 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: years ago with a St tadd on or with the 139 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: Man United hat on. You got and it just makes 140 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: sense because you because the integrity of the game is 141 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: probably one of the most important things, like the actually 142 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: probably the most important thing when it comes to sports. 143 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: Fans need to feel like it's fair and Larry Scott's 144 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: not doing anything about it because think about this. John 145 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: John Kenzano wrote a cool article about it, and he 146 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: talked about we we both were at Pack twelve media day. 147 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: That's actually how to pack twelve apostles for those who 148 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: don't know how to pack twelve apostles podcast started. Me 149 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: and Ralph were just talking and all of a sudden 150 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: it was it was a podcast. Um so. At the 151 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: media day, Commissioner Scott talked. He was at the stage 152 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: at the ballroom, um and he said that Woody Dixon 153 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: would no longer act as the Pack twelve supervisor of football. 154 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't qualified all of this. He's the guy who 155 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: over who called from his house. He called from his 156 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: house and overruled the instant replay officials during the Washington 157 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: State USC game with that, with that hit on Gardner 158 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: Mitchew from his house. What in God's name, come on, man, 159 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: um So, And it's not it's it's not new it's 160 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: not new. Check this out. I found an archived article 161 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: from the l A Times dating back to two thousand 162 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:44,479 Speaker 1: two saying that saying that at one point the conferences 163 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: coordinator of football officiating was UH. Let's see, was a 164 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: USC graduate and that was something that that u c 165 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: l A had a massive issue with at one time. 166 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: And also, Jim focal Chance has been part of UH 167 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: of officiating Pack twelve slash Pack ten games for so 168 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: long that before Utah was part of the Pack twelve, 169 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: back when they were with the Mountain West, Utah coach 170 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: Ron McBride filed an official complaint that Jim focal Chance 171 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: was a big University of Arizona guy because he lived 172 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: in Tucson and had two degrees from there. So none 173 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: of these complaints are new. They've been going on for 174 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: almost two decades, and it's not just Arizona State University 175 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: complaining about I think that you you should probably make 176 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: sure that everybody is free of any type of biases 177 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: when they are officials. You're gonna have to have people 178 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: who graduated from you know, Mountain West schools who were 179 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: officiating Pack twelve games. Yep, and okay, so and then 180 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: when Larry Scott said that Dixon was being removed from 181 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: the equation and announced that David Coleman, the Act twelve 182 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: head of officiating, would answer to Scott himself. You know, 183 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: closing the distance. Um, guess where Dixon was. He was 184 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: in the back of the room, see it, right next 185 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: to David Coleman. So the guy you said you were 186 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: removing from the equation was sitting right back there. I mean, 187 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: and like, it's so ridiculous that Larry Scott has been 188 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: able to con not only the old presidents but the 189 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: new presidents. You're you're sitting here, Oh yeah, yeah, we're 190 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: acknowledging the mistakes. Stop stop acknowledging and do something, dude, 191 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: like you are destroying the integrity of the game. You 192 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: are affecting outcomes of games. This is bull births, this 193 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: is UH Conference championships, these things. These are people's jobs. 194 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: People get fired over not winning enough games, and you're 195 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: sitting here affecting it. And then here is Larry Scott's 196 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: biggest con job is that, Um he's been So there's 197 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the PET PET twelve presidents and CEO 198 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: s um and chancellors that have been that have been 199 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: UM had a lot of turnover the last few years. 200 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: Here's his biggest con job is that he's making five 201 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: point three million dollars a year, which is more than 202 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: the Big ten and SEC Commissioner combined, and they're the 203 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: two most popular conferences. His contract is up in two. 204 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: But what does he spend all his time talking about 205 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: Ralph officiating? No? No, no no, no no. What is Larry 206 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: Scott's biggest thing? He always talks about the future and 207 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: the twenty four media rights deal when it's up in 208 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: Since his contract is up in two, isn't that real 209 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: convenient timing? Hey, guys, I really got a plan. I 210 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: really got a plan, and I think it's of the 211 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: smartest thing that he's done. Dude, Tomorrow, I'm talking on 212 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: a podcast I'm talking about I'm interviewing Corey Deborah, who 213 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: is Google's head of communication global Communication, well sorry, the 214 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: vice president of Global Communication. So he is like like 215 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: super high up, I mean like top twenty and uh 216 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: at Google, top at Google, a near trillion dollar company. 217 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: He's a huge Oregon guy, and he's in charge of 218 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: global communication PR all of these things. And I'm like, 219 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: I wonder I'm going to ask him specifically about the 220 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Pack twelves. Since he does messaging for a near trillion 221 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: dollar company, I'm wondering how this works out. I'm gonna 222 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: ask him specifically about Pack twelve messaging and the integrity 223 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff, because this is ridiculous, dude. Um, Okay, 224 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: So so that that's the internal but okay, is there 225 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: Do you believe Larry Scott will do anything about this, Ralph? 226 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess he's already started. Um, it's just 227 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: a matter of how referees are gonna gonna react. You 228 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: know what, what was better for them the reward of 229 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: being able to get better games if you grade out better, 230 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: or the fear of getting suspended or downgraded if you 231 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: seriously screw up. But not very many calls are that 232 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: black and white, George like, for for the most part, 233 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: it's not something that you can get outright punished for 234 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: because you called the penalty on somebody who isn't even 235 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: on the field, which changes possession by fifty something yards. Um, 236 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: Usually the mistakes aren't that well, they're that obvious, but 237 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: they're not that black and white as to what should 238 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: be done about it. So, um, I would say that 239 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: he's made it look like he's trying, because I think 240 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: that this is the biggest threat to not his legacy, 241 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: but his job status. If officiating keeps a road in 242 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: the institution and people stop having fun and people continue 243 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: to not go to games, there's not really a reason 244 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: to keep him around because that's gonna be something that 245 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: gets brought to the negotiating table when anybody says that 246 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: they want to give them money to broadcast these games. Hey, Larry, 247 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: what are you doing about the officiating? Because we're gonna 248 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: broadcast these games, we want to make sure that people 249 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: at least watch them on TV. And if and if 250 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be you know, uh, something that's not 251 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: even fun because it continually gets screwed up, Like if 252 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: people aren't gonna stream it or whatever in future town 253 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: wherever these games are being broadcast, then that's the biggest problem, 254 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think. So, I think that the people 255 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: who bring the money to the table are the ones 256 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: that he really has to answer to, and they're gonna 257 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: have questions about the officiating as well. It's bad, dude, 258 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: it's bad, And maybe you should train them better, maybe 259 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: you should maybe make full time employees because there's money 260 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: to do that. Um, if you do that, you will 261 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: improve the quality. And if they don't step up, then 262 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: you fire them. I mean it's it's super super bad. 263 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: It's really really bad. Um, so there's packed twelve reps. 264 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Oh and the external threat. The external threat is coming 265 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: squarely from Paul Findbomb and the idea that you have 266 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: so many analysts college football analysts talking about, oh, how 267 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve is dead all of these things. But 268 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: here's what Paul Findbomb said yesterday on the Top on 269 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: the Top twenty five Committee Rankings show, and then set 270 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: it again this morning on Get Up. Because Rob Mullins, 271 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: Oregon Athletic Department at Oregon Athletic Director is in the 272 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: is the chair of the committee, and he keeps and 273 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: Paul find Bomb keeps saying that the Pack twelve deserves 274 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: no credit and Rob Mullins basically is a fraud if 275 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: Oregon makes it into the playoffs. And he keeps saying 276 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: how if it comes down to Oregon in Alabama, that 277 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: they'll have a conflict and that, um, yeah, basically question 278 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: Rob Mueller's integrity. And I just thought that this was 279 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: very very interesting because because like this is not the 280 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: only time that somebody has been a chair like you, 281 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: like you had or Oklahoma's athletic director I believe who 282 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: was on the committee last year when Oklahoma got in 283 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: as a one lost team. But they're set up to 284 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: recuse themselves when their teams are being talked about. So 285 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: that means that the comp that the other committee members 286 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: chose this person. You've had Barry Alvarez on the committee. 287 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Who's now, um, I mean we are who is Wisconsin's 288 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: athletic director. This is total garbage. This is propaganda by 289 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: by ESPN. This is horrible. This is an attack on 290 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: the conference. And Larry Scott he's probably gonna put out 291 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: a statement because people are making enough noise about this. Oh, 292 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, Paul fine Bombs comments were very unfortunate. They 293 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, we do not while we do not agree 294 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: with them with respectials opinions. And the committee has a 295 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: very tough job in Oregon and Alabama are both very 296 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: fine football teams. That's probably what he'll say, if he 297 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: says anything. And we're just happy to be mentioned with 298 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: with the great teams in the world. Well, Paul fine 299 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: Bombs a dork, Like, let's just get that out of 300 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: the way, Like he's got an enormous platform. He's got 301 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: an enormous stage. He talks SEC football. He's done it 302 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: longer than anybody, but there's a million people who do 303 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: it better than him. He's just got a large platform, 304 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: and when he's not talking football specifics, he has a 305 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: very large tendency to stick his size for foot to 306 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: his mouth. So there's not there's not, really, you know, 307 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: anything that you can do about the fact that he's 308 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: going to continue to say dumb stuff. The committee has 309 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: built so that anybody who is involved in any voting 310 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: process that might involve their team has to recuse themselves. 311 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: I know this because a colleague of mine has been 312 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: named to that committee. One of the best writers that 313 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: we ever had down here in Arizona. Her name is 314 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: Paula Boyvan. She is a professor at Arizona State, and 315 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: on all things Arizona State, she can't even be in 316 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: the room. Right. So they've got a system in which 317 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: they are addressing these things. And so for paul find 318 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: bomb to say that like it's corrupt in some way, Man, 319 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: shut up. They've taken two SEC teams multiple times, like 320 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: it's fine, it's gonna be fine. Stop crying you pocket mouse, 321 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: balding weirdo. Dude. It is a shame. I mean, it 322 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: is a shame that nobody stands up for the conference, Like, 323 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: who is going to stand up and be a voice? 324 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: I guess it's gotta be me. I guess it's gotta 325 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: be be me. It's gotta be you, Ralph, It's got 326 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: to be the people listener to the podcast, because at 327 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: some point in time, people keep just bullying you. And 328 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: this is indicative of not just a college football playoff. 329 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: It's indicative of TV time slots because when the new 330 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: contract is up, you've kept accepting all that, you kept it, 331 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: all these Thursday night games, Friday night games, bad time slots. 332 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: What do you think they're going to offer you in 333 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: what do you think that you know? I mean, if 334 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: you try to go if you try to go to 335 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: Chapple TV plus, what do you think they're going to 336 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: give you? Hey? Days of Our Lives is just stopped production, 337 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: So maybe we can get some packed twelve games on 338 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: at noon on a weekday since they won't have to 339 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: battle with with Days of Our Lives anymore. Yeah, yeah, 340 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: and then they'll be telling us, hey, hey guys, hey, 341 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna put put some Tuesday night games on to 342 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: compete with the MAC because we'll be the only thing on, 343 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: will be the biggest game in town. I actually tweeted 344 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: that the other day because this whole Chase Young thing 345 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: of like, you know, suspending a guy for for you know, 346 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: taking a loan that he then paid off right away, 347 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, the n C Double A. 348 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: They're just trying to protect these student athletes because they 349 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: know that the moment that you take money from somebody, uh, 350 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: it won't just be for nothing. They're gonna start asking 351 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: you to schedule games that that was d n C 352 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: Double A. They are they are absolutely experts in this 353 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: quid pro quos stuff and uh, and doing stuff is 354 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: not great for the student athlete. And so yeah, I 355 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: mean I think that that you're not gonna have a 356 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: ton of people come out and defend um the Pack 357 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: twelve because you know, everybody is motivated by money, and 358 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: if there's no money in the defense of the of 359 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve and having a backbone here and starting 360 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: a war between the conferences, you're not gonna see anybody 361 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: step up and do It would be nice for Larry 362 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Scott to step out there and say like, hey, wait 363 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: a minute, Paul, fine mom, like you don't, you don't, 364 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: you don't dictate any of this. And if we get 365 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: somebody in, it's going to be because we play nine 366 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: conference games, uh, and because we you know, we we 367 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: have a decent out of conference schedule and we're not 368 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: playing and losing to Appalachian State in week eleven like 369 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: SEC teams are, like, it would be nice if if, 370 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: if you had a little bit of bite there, But 371 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: everybody's kind of las fair and and say like, oh, 372 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: it'll work out the way it works out, and um, 373 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: until it doesn't, right, and then you have all the 374 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: complaining at the end of the year when when you're 375 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: in a New Year's six Bowl instead of the uh, 376 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: instead of the college football playoffs, sitting at twelve and one, 377 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: somebody has to defend the conference. Somebody has to do. 378 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: It's bad. Um. In In other news, Ralphie five is gone, Ralphie, Ralphie, 379 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: he is gone, ralph No, I'm joking, And I know 380 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: that Ralphie is a girl, but will they replace with 381 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: with a boy? And and Ralphie is going to go 382 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: live off on a farm in in a pasture They say, 383 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: with a with a mate, right, with a companion. Yeah, 384 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: they got Ralphie a man, and they got they got 385 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: they got ralphiel Field the graves. And they're really making 386 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: it sound like the farm that my dog supposedly went to. 387 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: Who told you that? To the farm? My dad? My dad. 388 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: So we had a we had an American eskimo and 389 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: it was like it would bite people. We had it 390 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: until it was probably like six years old, and um, 391 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: and he wasn't neutered. And then one day he was gone. Um, 392 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: And I asked my parents. I was like, you know 393 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: what what happened? That Murphy was the dog's name, And 394 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: they said that a breeder from Colorado came down and 395 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: got him because he wasn't neutered. So he's actually gonna 396 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: go like live a live a really really good life 397 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: in area where he's not going to bite neighborhood kids anymore. 398 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: And then like and then I grow up and I 399 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: hear all these stories of people telling their kids that 400 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: their dog went off to a farm. And to this 401 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: day I cannot get my parents to admit that like that, 402 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: that that dog is anywhere but a farm in Colorado. 403 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: It's been, it's been twenty years. And yeah, but they 404 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: haven't broken ranks on the story. So I'm still holding 405 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: out hope that that my my skittish American eskimo that 406 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: would bite the neighborhood kids actually got to spend the 407 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: rest to his life. Uh, don't don't believe it. Um, 408 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: Florida and a s U have scheduled home and homes 409 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: in they're playing in Tempe and thirty one they are 410 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: playing in Florida. I love this. I love home and 411 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: home matchups as you just had one with Michigan State 412 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: turned out to be a little more of a dud 413 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: when it was in too Tucson, but but it was 414 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: good this last year. Jade Daniels played really well. And 415 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: what did they win their game? Like ten six or 416 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: something like ten seven? Um, And uh yeah, so like 417 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: like that, that's great news UM around the conference. Though 418 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: Chase Garber's cow quarterback has been cleared. He may start 419 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: this weekend UM against USC which would be a big 420 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: boost for Actually, I don't know, we'll we'll talk about 421 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: that when we go about games. And Tyler Helensky will 422 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: be honored at Senior Night at Washington State. He is 423 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: the brother of the Helensky brother who plays at South Carolina. 424 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: Now and if you know the story, what a year 425 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: and a half ago, Uh, yeah, about a year and 426 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: a half ago, he committed suicide when he was going 427 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback at Washington State. And it was, 428 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, sad and tragic, and yes, it's it's just 429 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: a horrendous story. Um. But they're gonna be honoring him 430 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: at senior night. UM. And we wanted to go over 431 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: recruiting now. We we wanted to go over some recruiting 432 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: news because there have been some big changes in the 433 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: pack twelve. So now I believe Washington overtook Oregon for 434 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: the top recruiting spot in the pack twelve. They have 435 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: won five star, which is uh savelle small as I believe, um, 436 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: and a bunch of four stars and a bunch of 437 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: three stars. And then Oregon is in second place. UM, 438 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: Stanford third, Arizona State four U c l A has 439 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: bumped all the way up to five, Colorado six, Cal seven, 440 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: Washington State eight, Oregon State nine. Wait wait wait Arizona 441 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: ten uh uh Ralph, I'm I must have missed U 442 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: at usc in it right, I gottall way to ten? 443 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: It just has to be a typo, right usc USC 444 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: at eleven. Yeah, not only that, they just they just 445 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: they just finished beating Arizona State. And right after the game, 446 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: Jack Yarry, a six ft six, two fifty pound tight 447 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: end who saw the writing on the wall from them 448 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: running the air raid, decides to decommit and he might 449 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: turn around. It's very possible that he might give his commitment. 450 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's a it's a small chance, but it's 451 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: a chance that he might give his commitment to the 452 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: team that USC just beat because SQ doesn't really have 453 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: any tight ends and so um, things are not looking 454 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: great for USC right now. But how about the last 455 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks And I can't know what I'm saying this, 456 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: but how about the last couple of weeks for U C. 457 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: L A and Colorado. They're they're tearing it up on 458 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: the recruiting trail. I mean, we've got uh um, we 459 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: got Colorado got a four star running back on the 460 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: eleventh in a shod Clayton out of New Orleans, Louisiana. 461 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: This is a kid who's six ft tall, hundred ninety pounds. 462 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: He had offers from past CC and he's bring by 463 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: rebels as the numb seven recruit in the entire country 464 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: and number nine running back. We're looking at his other offers. 465 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: He commits to Colorado over Ala, Hima, Arkansas, Auburn, Georgia 466 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: l s U Like, what is what is Colorado got 467 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: going on? He also it offers from Nebraska and Texas 468 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: and he chooses to go play too in Boulder. That 469 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: that's a huge pickup. Same thing with with Brendan Rice, 470 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: the kid who transferred from Alabama. Uh, Mail tuckers pulling 471 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: pulling in a and uh and s m U. They must, 472 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: they must got some name image likeness. They got some 473 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: money flowing through both Boulder. Buddy, No, I'm joking, like 474 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying, you know, he's he's he's 475 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: he's got the juice. I mean, he's whatever the Colorado 476 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: coaches are selling. Whatever Mail Tucker is selling. I need 477 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: to I need to talk to one of these recruits. 478 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: If you have a chance to talk to one of 479 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: the Colorado commits, figure out what what Mail Tucker selling, 480 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: because because that's what I want to know. What his 481 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: recruiting right now got Brendan Brendan Rice. This week we'll 482 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: have him on the podcast because I know Brendan pretty well. Okay, 483 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: because it's gotta be early playing time. Um, you know, 484 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: like opportunity, that's gotta be what he's selling. Um. But 485 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about u c l A. This is wild 486 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: because we all know about Chip Kelly's recruiting process right 487 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: like it goes, it goes deep, like they're they're you know, 488 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: they're drawn blood and doing the whole twenty three and 489 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: me thing before they before they'll take your commitment. Um. 490 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: And just in the last two weeks so since October, 491 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: they landed six players and it almost looks like a 492 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: Stanford class. And that You've got a player from Lehigh, 493 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: Utah in Joeholani Ross defensive end. Um, You've got two 494 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: players out of bell Flower, California, including four star wide 495 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: receiver Logan Lawyer. And then you've got a North Across 496 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: a Georgia linebacker in chow Bryant Strutter, and another Georgia 497 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: commit in Miles Jackson. And then they got somebody out 498 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: of Oakdale, Connecticut, Kenny Mestador, sixty pound defensive ends. So 499 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they land three defensive ends, a 500 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: linebacker and athlete, and a wide receiver in the last 501 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: two weeks, and it's all coming on the heels of 502 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: their success. So you might look at this and say, oh, 503 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: u c l A is winning, and so the recruits 504 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: are coming along. But if you know anything about u 505 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: c l A recruiting, you know that these guys have 506 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: probably been waiting to commit three or four weeks. Uh, 507 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: they're just waiting to get that thumbs up from Chip Kelly. 508 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: That's crazy because his recruit his approach to recruiting is 509 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: completely different than everybody else's. Everybody wants to be the 510 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: kids best friend. They want them to they want them 511 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: to commit, They wanted to feel good. Chip Chip Chip 512 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: is like he's sitting in the room like they like Godfather. Yeah. 513 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: And you know what's you know what's crazy is like 514 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: the so Colorado and u c l A had huge week, right, 515 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: but the biggest commitment belongs to another school that that 516 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 1: we wouldn't necessarily consider, you know, a top flight pack 517 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: twelve football school, Oregon State. Oregon State lands a a 518 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: transfer from the number six defensive end in the twenty 519 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: nineteen class in Charles Moore Rivals had him as the 520 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: number seventy nine player in the country. He he didn't 521 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: sign until late at Auburn, and he only lasted a 522 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: couple of months on campus and then all of a 523 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: sudden he's headed out there to Corvallis and Corvallis also 524 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: hosted I believe Jack Sears and a couple of other 525 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: players and that they're really trying to corner the market 526 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: on the whole transfer poor thing. And uh, what is 527 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: it the Oregon State's got going on that all of 528 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: these big time recruits are are looking to start fresh 529 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: out there. You know, I know that Mike Riley played 530 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: a big factor in some of those um, but I mean, 531 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: what what is it right now? Yep, yep, and um, 532 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: I think that they see early playing time, they see 533 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: that they're selling. You can compete with with the big boys, 534 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,959 Speaker 1: you can knock them off. We can build something special here. Yeah, 535 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of opportunity for that. I mean, 536 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: even like us said, Jack Jack Sears visited there from 537 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: usc um Charles Moore, this is whatever Jayson Smith and 538 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: Mail Tucker are doing is absolutely working at this point 539 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: in time. Like they're not just going after the French 540 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: kids who you know would go to the Mountain West School, 541 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: but are happier at a PAC twelve because they got 542 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: a bigger offer. Note these are kids who who have options. Um, 543 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: now we can get to the games this week. So 544 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: uh two, only two PAC twelve teams are not in 545 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: action this week, So we can start with the Washington 546 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: car the Washington Cardinal, the Stanford Cardinal go to uh 547 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: they go to the police. They're going to go play 548 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: Washington State. And it's it's crazy to me that you 549 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: have Mike Leach. As you have Mike Leach everybody, including us, 550 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: I remember that you mentioned it on the last podcast. 551 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: Everybody keeps mentioning him with all these big time jobs 552 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: and and they love the quirky stuff that he does 553 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: at his press conferences. But not that long ago he 554 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: called his team fat, dumb, happy, and entitled. And now 555 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: he's basically saying that his leaders are frauds. And I'm 556 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: and and I think I was always taught that teams 557 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: are reflecting to the head coach. So if his team 558 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: is all these bad things, what is the head coach? Ah? Yeah, 559 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I said, I don't. I can't. I'm 560 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: not gonna go as far as calling Mike Leach a 561 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: fraud because we know what Washington State was before he 562 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: got there, and we've seen Texas Tech struggle since he left. 563 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,959 Speaker 1: It's obvious that that he knows the secret sauce Um, 564 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 1: and I just don't think that he He's not really 565 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: somebody who is built to handle losing with with grace. 566 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: He's not one of those people that that's a trust 567 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: the process type guy. If if you're failing to trust 568 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: the process, he doesn't really feel like it's it's it's 569 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: his need to convince you it's just your fault for 570 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: not doing the right things, because the right things are 571 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: so obvious and so um does this work as a 572 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: motivational tactic. We're gonna find out. Um. I think it 573 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: helps that they've got Stanford this week, and again Stanford 574 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: is gonna win because I'm gonna pick against them. Stanford 575 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: graduates has have been making me feel dumb my entire wife. 576 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: Stanford football has been the thing that has made me 577 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: feel dumb in the year nineteen because without Stanford football, 578 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: I feel like every single week I'm rolling in the dope. 579 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: Like if I was betting on these games, I'd be 580 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: getting paid every week. If it wasn't for Stanford. There's 581 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: no way that I'm maybe gotten. I may be called 582 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: one of their games correctly twice this year. Uh, you 583 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna get with them, and I'm 584 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: just I'm I'm sick of even trying to depend on them. 585 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: And I expect Washington State absolutely, I totally agree with you. 586 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: Oh oh and um uh the corners out number eleven 587 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: um for or a. Stanford are a really good one. 588 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: Why why what's my name? Blanking? Uh? Oh? Oh lord? 589 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: So anyways, oh the kid that had multiple interceptions against Yeah, 590 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: I know you're talking about Hold on one second, the 591 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: worst thing in the whole world. When you know somebody's name, like, 592 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: you know their name, you've seen it, you said it 593 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: fifty times, no less than you're like, yeah, what the 594 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: else is going on? Pulses so um And when you 595 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: look at the defense, Stanford's defense is ranked in terms 596 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: of scoring defense six in the conference. They're given up 597 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: twenty six points a game and a Debo is one 598 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: of the best dbs, not only in the conference but 599 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: in the country. And yeah, this is a huge loss 600 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: for them, especially going again the air raid And on 601 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: the last podcast, we talked about how to stop the 602 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: air raid offense. From from Pack twelve coaches how to 603 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: stop the air raid, how to stop the air raid, 604 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 1: and it works. So so Stanford is going to be 605 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: potentially in trouble. But the biggest concern is their offense. 606 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: They're only scoring twenty four points a game. There is 607 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: a problem when you're scoring twenty four points a game 608 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: and you're giving up twenty six points a game. And 609 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: Stanford's uh rushing offense is slowly climbing their ninth in 610 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: the conference hundred thirty one yards a game, ninth in 611 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: the conference ralph and then their passing offense is fifth 612 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: in the conference. That almost two hundred and fifty yards 613 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: a game. But it's not turning into points and intellectual 614 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: brutality that we used to know. It is broken. I 615 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: do not believe that it that Stanford is, you know, 616 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: a couple of healthy bodies, oh from being a ten 617 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: win team. This there's nothing about this team. It looks 618 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: like that they are going to threaten for the Pac 619 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: twelve championship next year at all Stanford. Stanford has to 620 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: go too and one in their next three games to 621 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: make a Bowl, and those opponents include playing at Washington 622 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: State and then home against Cal and Notre Dame. Will 623 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: they will they even get the five wins. Oh, it's 624 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: so many people that have Stanford in their bowl projections 625 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, are you sure about that? Are you sure? 626 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: But but the way the conference has been been going, 627 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: you know that they will win. You know that they 628 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,439 Speaker 1: will win and get bowl eligible. But then Washington State 629 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: they need this win to to get bowl eligible. I 630 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: am taking the Cougars in this game. I have kind 631 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: of turned my stance on Mike Leach. I think it's 632 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: a great football coach, but he seems like kind of 633 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: a jerk, Like so he he is really struggle he losing. 634 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: Mike Leach is a whole different Mike Leach in that 635 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: he is exactly the same, only only it's he's takes 636 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: some of his time that he's talking about like what 637 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: the best thing to do on a hay ride is, 638 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: and he dedicates some of that time to making fun 639 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: of his own players. Other than that, everything is pretty 640 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: much the same. Like if if Washington State came out 641 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: next year with this same exact makeup for the most part, 642 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, just a new quarterback, and they went ten 643 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: and two, I would not be shocked at all. Oh yeah, 644 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: I would agree with that, but not another note. So 645 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: all the pack twelve games, there's a one thirty start, 646 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: a four thirty start, five o'clock starts, seven thirty, and 647 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: eight o'clock start. I mean, I mean, put put some 648 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: games on during the time people will freaking watch them. Dude. 649 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: At least at least Utah is getting a nationally televised 650 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: game for it for a change. Um, so you got 651 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: Arizona State traveling to Oregon State. Jade Daniels is back, 652 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: and with the results that have been happening, I have 653 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: no idea how to pick this game. I mean, I 654 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: feel like this is a pickup. I like the fact 655 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: that Jade Daniels is back for Arizona State, but Arizona 656 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: State has done nothing to it to give me like 657 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 1: hope and confidence. Because in the first quarter of the 658 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: uc USC game last week, they gave up twenty eight 659 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: points eight points, and then they battened down the hatches 660 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. And then Oregon State, whose offense have 661 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: been playing really well against everybody except for Utah, got 662 00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: absolutely blanked against Washington. And Washington has started a bunch 663 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: of freshman people have been able to score on Washington 664 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: except Oregans. They could barely move the ball. The The 665 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: only reason why they even scored is because off a 666 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: pick six. I think this game is first to thirty five, UM, 667 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: which is a little bit of a change of tune 668 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: for me. Um. You know, with all the time that 669 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: I spent talking about Arizona State's defense, right when it 670 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: comes down to it, man, if you can't get a 671 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 1: pass rush, none of it matters, none of it. Keith 672 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: and Slovis could have been back there making subway sandwiches, 673 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: changing gloves between each ingredient and still had time to 674 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 1: throw in the first quarter. That was I mean, yeah, 675 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: keithan Slovis through for two seven yards in one quarter, 676 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: but he had all of the time in the world 677 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: to do it. And that's a huge, huge, huge problem. Um. 678 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 1: The thing about Oregon State is they have everything, every 679 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: single thing that you need to be a thorn in 680 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 1: airs on the State side. They have it patients UM 681 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: in the running game, multiple effective running backs who can 682 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: also catch the ball out of the backfield if you 683 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: need them to, uh, and then a very accurate quarterback. 684 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: And if the running games working, then that sets up 685 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: the pass for them. Now, if Arizona State can load 686 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 1: the box the way that Washington did and shut down 687 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: the running game and then just say like, hey, just 688 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: for today only, guys, we're gonna put you out on 689 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: an island against against Oregon State's wide receivers and they 690 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: match up Chase Lucas or Jack Jones on Isaiah Hodgens 691 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 1: and hope and pray for the best. Then you might 692 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: be able to repeat the performance that Washington put out there. 693 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: You're not going to shut them out, but you you 694 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: might be able to repeat that performance just as far 695 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: as not allowing them to use the run to set 696 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: up the past. That's Arizona State's best hope in this game. Defensively, Uh, 697 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: Oregon State's not good and they're not gonna all of 698 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: a sudden start being good. But when you have hamilcar 699 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 1: Rochette who is leading the country and tackles for loss 700 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: and leading the pack twelve in sacks, and he's gonna 701 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: get to go up against the seventeen year old of 702 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: his choice, Um, that's that's not gonna be a whole 703 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: lot of fun. And then you're gonna run into another 704 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: situation for the second week in a row where you're 705 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 1: talking about an Arizona kid that Arizona State didn't offer. 706 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: Who is getting off against? Uh, who's getting off against 707 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: the sun Devils. So you know, that's the last thing 708 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: in the world they want to see. Is hamilcar Rochette 709 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: get like three sacks and then have the local media 710 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: be like, why didn't a SU offer him? He went 711 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: to the same high school with Mikil Harry um, And yeah, 712 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: so that's the last thing in the world that a 713 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: SU want. So hopefully they put a tight end on 714 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: him to chip him or something like that. Uh, this 715 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: doesn't feel good coming out of my mouth, but I 716 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: am gonna go with Arizona State in this game only 717 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: because I think Washington laid out the blueprint for how 718 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: you get this done, and um, if a SU can't, 719 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: then it's a skill issue, UM or potentially coaching issue 720 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: that they didn't follow suit and just stacked the box 721 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 1: and make make Jake Luton try to beat them. Um. 722 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: But again, Arizona State doesn't like to play in Corvallis 723 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: because they were on the path to the College Football 724 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: Playoff in two thousand and fourteen and they went up 725 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: there and just got stumped in twenty degree weather. So 726 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: that's that's not something that a SU was really looking 727 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: forward to is playing up there. So I think it'll 728 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: be a close game, and I think that Arizona State 729 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: squeaks it out, and I think having Jade Daniels back 730 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: will be a big part of that. I totally agree. 731 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 1: I'm picking Arizona State in this game as well. They 732 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: are towards the bottom of the rankings in total offense. 733 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: They're eleventh in the conference in in total offense. But 734 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is a you know, necessarily 735 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: a bad team because when you look at their opponent, 736 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: first down is allowed their fourth in the conference. Like 737 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: they're doing a good job of getting people off the field, 738 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: and they're the thing that Arizona States not doing well. 739 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: It's third down conversions. They are only um uh come 740 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 1: well sorry getting first down of the time, which puts 741 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: them kind of I guess that puts you middle of 742 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: the road in the conference. That puts them eight. And 743 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: they're allowing a ton of sacks, like two and a 744 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: half a game. So like when you have a young quarterback, 745 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: the whole goal is to keep them clean. And you 746 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: just mentioned hamilcar for shed. If if you're going against 747 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: the third worst team, in the conference in sex only 748 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: Arizona and cow are worst. How does Arizona get sacked 749 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 1: almost so much? F y would an athletic quarterback? But whatever, Um, 750 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about Um. Yeah, so, so 751 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: this is a team that and Arizona State. Though, while 752 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: they don't give up a ton of first downs, they 753 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: are eleventh in the conference in getting first downs. So 754 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 1: they have to do a better job of not having 755 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: three and outs continuing to move to football football. If 756 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: they can do that, they can beat I'm going to 757 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: go with you and pick them to beat Oregon State. 758 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: Uh U c l A the U c l A Bruins, 759 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: who who are officially my team, but I may gift 760 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: them to Ralphie pie keeps being nice. Um is playing 761 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: at Utah because I will mention again Ralph said they 762 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: were only gonna win one one game. Now he's got 763 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: to put him in his top five in the Pack 764 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: twelve power rankings. Did I say one game or or 765 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: or did I say one game? I don't remember. Yeah, so, um, 766 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: uh Utah's favorite in this game by twenty one point 767 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: bro twenty one? Okay, Can I just say there's no 768 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: way in hell that Utah is winning by three touchdowns? 769 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? There's no way they are looking 770 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: at it. They are like the Utah like the Oregon 771 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: State game apparently, or the or the Ana is the 772 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 1: over under is it is? It is? It is it 773 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: Utah is favored by twenty one points with an over 774 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: under of four because no, the over under is. You 775 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: got to be kidding me, so that so that's thirty 776 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: one points for them to be. Yes, So they're saying 777 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,280 Speaker 1: that you is gonna score like sixteen, sixteen points, fifteen 778 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: or sixteen points. George, There's no way there's fifty two 779 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: combined points in this game, right, I mean you you 780 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: see l A has been playing better defense. Uh u 781 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: c l A's defense has stepped up. Yeah, but it 782 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,959 Speaker 1: feels like a trap. I would definitely with what's part 783 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: of it. It just feels like guaranteed money. It feels 784 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: like free candy, like a stranger handing you free candy 785 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: from a windowless van. Of course I'm gonna take this 786 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 1: free candy stranger. There's no way fifty two points are 787 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: scored in this game. There's no way if they're both, 788 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 1: if they're both just hammering the ball with Joshua Kelly 789 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:56,240 Speaker 1: and Zack Moss respectively. I don't see fifty two points. 790 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: That's an that's that would be high for some a 791 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of NF selling games, right. I mean, just because 792 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: this is pequot football doesn't mean that either one of 793 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 1: these teams knows how to score touchdowns against each other. 794 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't. And it's in it's in Salt Lake, am 795 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: I am I wrong about that? So it's not like 796 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a great weather game. Yes the game is, 797 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: and it's not like, oh man, yes it is gonna be. 798 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: It is gonna be insalt like the It's supposed to 799 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: be fifty five degrees and clear, I believe. So yeah, 800 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to score as many points 801 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 1: as the temperature. I'm just gonna go ahead throw that 802 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: out there. I hate telling people what to do with 803 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 1: their money, but I mean, empty the kids college fund 804 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: and throw it on this under and then sweat it 805 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 1: out for a couple of hours and then profit. Dude, 806 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: I am so scared of of of unders h I've like, 807 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: if you look at the worst thing I've ever seen 808 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: in my in my entire life, was there was this 809 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: last week TCU was playing Baylor. The under was forty eight. 810 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: At the end of regulation, there were seventeen points I'm sorry, um, 811 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 1: eighteen points scored because um it was nine to six, 812 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: and then Baylor kicked the fifty one yard field goals 813 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: to send it into overtime and then the over, and 814 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: then they ended up crushing that forty eight and it 815 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 1: was only seventeen point scored in regulation. That's probably one 816 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,760 Speaker 1: of the worst things I've ever seen in my life. 817 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 1: That is, there's just like a special stomachache that's designated 818 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: for betting unders. Like it's just it's it's a it's 819 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 1: a feeling that can only be called upon if you 820 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: bet the under in a basketball game that ends up 821 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 1: a free throw mess towards the end. I just it's 822 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely the least fun that you can do 823 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: in gambling is betting under, but when you hit it, 824 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: you feel like an absolute genius. And uh and I 825 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 1: know I know that people. What's that whole saying life 826 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: is too short to bet the under? Um? Because you know, 827 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: you actually make your life shorter by betting unders and 828 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 1: by giving yourself ulcers. But I don't know there's two 829 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way that these two teams 830 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 1: get together and score fifty two points in a game. 831 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: You watched a s U Utah. You watched that game, right, Like, 832 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: there's I don't know, I don't know. I feel better 833 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 1: about U c l a's defense in recent weeks. Um, 834 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 1: And I just don't think that a banged up Tyler 835 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 1: Huntley is gonna I just I don't. I don't think 836 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. I might put my money where my 837 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: mouth is. All all right, So, and and how are 838 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 1: you feeling about those twenty one points? It seems ridiculous. 839 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: It seems ridiculous. I mean, why why can't we all 840 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,439 Speaker 1: disagree this is gonna be a seven to three Utah win? Ralph, 841 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: I am vehemently against you in this one. I'm I'm 842 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: taking the over in the game. I think that this 843 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 1: just ends up a high scoring affair, probably thirty five seven. Okay. 844 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: But but there is the caveat that Utah knows that 845 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: they have to put up a good performance because all 846 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: the committee is watching. The Committee is watching Utah, they 847 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: are watching Oregon. And but yeah, that they need to 848 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 1: dominate U c l A. They must dominate U c 849 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: l A. So I am going to take Utah and 850 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: for even though I know the game's gonna end up 851 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 1: thirty five, I'm gonna take U c l A. I'm 852 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take Utah on the twenty one points. 853 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna to lay the twenty one point with with 854 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,879 Speaker 1: Utah because I saw what they did to Arizona State 855 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: and I saw what they did to Oregon st They 856 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it knowing that I that I'm an Eatian. 857 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,800 Speaker 1: I am going to take it knowing that Tyler Huntley 858 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: is probably gonna have its best game, Zack Moss is 859 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: gonna go off, and their defense is going to like 860 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: eat Dorian Thompson Robinson alive. So so there's that I 861 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: did see somebody one of the I saw and it's 862 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: always leave it to Utah fans to make things weirdly racial. Uh. 863 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: But like someone said that we're we're gonna destroy U 864 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: c l A because Dorian Thompson Robinson is just uh 865 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: is just a thicker Jadeen Daniels, And I'm like, well, 866 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: like let's just let's just back off of those those 867 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: comparisons for for a moment. I think they're you know, 868 00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: they're they're different enough. Um, Dorian Thompson Robinson is much 869 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: more of like a creator from behind the line of scrimmage. 870 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: Um and uh. And Jane Daniels is actually a pocket 871 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 1: passer just is forced to use his athleticism because the 872 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: offensive line is bad. So UM, I think that Dorian 873 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson will maybe have a little bit of success 874 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: in just how well he is able to move around. 875 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: But I still don't think that means his receivers are 876 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 1: going to get open. Oh for sure, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. 877 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: And j Jalen Johnson, all the guys, they are going 878 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: to be like Lecky fold to these guys gonna be 879 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: living in the backfield. Uh. Next game up, the Arizona 880 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: Wildcats traveled to Eugene, a game I will be at 881 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: or his favorite by twenty seven and a half points. 882 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: The over is sixty five and a half. Rom Um Oregons. 883 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: Like you look at Oregon stats, it's very very interesting 884 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: because when you look at their team stats, they do 885 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 1: not have a thousand yard rusher they. Um. Justin Herbert 886 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: has been kind of tame in the fact that even 887 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: though he's having a really good season, twenty three hundred 888 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: yards twenty four touchdowns, two picks. Uh. There, leading receiver 889 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: hasn't played in two games. The leading receiver on Oregon's team, 890 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: except for in touchdowns, has not played. No, no, actually 891 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 1: it might might might be three games. In terms of 892 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: yards that Jacob Brelan the tight end. Here's how Oregons 893 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 1: receptions go thirty one, thirty nine, thirteen, thirteen, fourteen, twelve, eight, 894 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: eleven nine. I mean, they have so many dudes with 895 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: reception and touchdowns that is crazy. They have one, two, three, 896 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: four or five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, eleven. 897 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Eleven different people have caught touchdown passes. Let let alone rushing. 898 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Eleven of people have caught touchdown passes. This is a 899 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: team that is evenly distributed, and it feels more like 900 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: an L s U old L s U football team 901 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 1: where they um where you would have star wide wide 902 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: receivers like Odell Beckham Jr. Jarvis Landry who can't catch 903 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: for a thousand yards Except for the receivers. Aren't that good? Yeah? Well, 904 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, if I was if I 905 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: was an NFL scout and I saw the way that 906 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert was spreading the ball around, I would put 907 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: that as a tick in the wind column for him. 908 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm trying very, very very hard to ignore because we've 909 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 1: we've sort of entered We're halfway through the NFL season, right, 910 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: so we know which teams are gonna be picking in 911 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 1: the top ten, We know which teams are probably gonna 912 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: need a quarterback, and so draft Twitter is getting louder 913 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: and louder, and I like draft Twitter, and there's a 914 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: time and a place for it. Um in the middle 915 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: of the college football season, it's very distracting. And ever 916 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: since they kept me from enjoying Josh Allen's redshirt junior 917 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: season at Wyoming, I've done my best to ignore. You 918 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: know what all of these prognosticators say, because if you're 919 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: just trying to enjoy some Oregon football and you're reading 920 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 1: all of the content that's relevant to your team, and 921 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: you're listening to all the content that's relevant to your team, 922 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: and anytime somebody mentions Justin herbert Is to talk about, 923 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, how he's gonna fail five years from now 924 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL, that is extremely distracting. It takes away 925 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: from the fun of being a college football fame. You're 926 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: not just sort of allowed to enjoy it in the moment. 927 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 1: And this week it just got ratcheted up to eleven 928 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 1: with uh, with people starting to talk about Joe Burrow 929 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: and two of versus Justin Herbert. And I mean, somebody, 930 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: someone out there had just the absolute dumbest taken the 931 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 1: entire world that you have to go with Herbert because 932 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 1: he's he's the actual, like only NFL prototypical size guys. 933 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 1: So now we're talking about size again when you know 934 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is six ft four, two fifteen pounds. Uh. 935 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: And then you had Desmond Howard say that Justin Herbert 936 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 1: is not capable of winning a locker room. Um. And 937 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: it's just like, man, I just want to enjoy college 938 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: football through the end of the season and then we 939 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: can beat this to death and we can start to 940 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: hate the people that we used to love. Just give 941 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: us this moment to enjoy college football. And I'm loving 942 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 1: what Justin Herbert doing this year. My favorite thing about 943 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is that you can name his interceptions because 944 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: there's so few of them. I have more children than 945 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 1: he has interceptions. It's easier for me to remember which 946 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: interceptions he through than it is for me to not 947 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 1: mix up my kids and my dogs names. So you know, 948 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 1: I love what Herbert's doing this year, and uh and 949 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: I think the NFL scouts probably should too. But all 950 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: I see every time I go to read anything about 951 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 1: Oregon football anytime I pull up like the recent news, 952 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 1: is people wanting to rip Justin Herbert for something he 953 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 1: hasn't even done wrong yet for the Cincinnati Bengals in 954 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 1: the year. This is kind of what happens with senior quarterbacks, though, 955 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, how many times have we seen 956 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 1: senior quarterbacks come back even once they are end up 957 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: very successful in the NFL when they're when they're juniors, Oh, 958 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: they're they're hot, everybody loves them. And then when they 959 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: come back your senior year, everybody knows they're really good, 960 01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: and everybody's saying, oh wait, hold up, let's figure out 961 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: what's wrong with him. There has to be something wrong 962 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: with him that we're that we're missing. I mean, just 963 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: is the same thing is going to happen. The same 964 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 1: thing is happening to Trevor Lawrence right now. The same 965 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: thing is gonna happen to Trevor Lawrence next year when 966 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 1: he's draft eligible. They're gonna be trying to figure out 967 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: what's what's wrong with him instead of what what's right 968 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: with him? Like if Joe Burrow were to have another 969 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 1: year at l s U, guess what people would be 970 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: picking him apart. But but but he's a new pretty 971 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: girl running around the pretty you know, he is the 972 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 1: new hot girl on on campus. I remember when I 973 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: was at Oregon there was a young lady that ended 974 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: up dating and uh when she first showed up on campus, 975 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: every single player on the football team was like, Yo, 976 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: there's this new girl on campus. Have you seen her? 977 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah? And I was like no, because I 978 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 1: didn't have any classes with any of the other football players, 979 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: and boy, I must have saw her. I waited outside 980 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: of her her class where I knew her class got 981 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 1: out for two days because I didn't know which day 982 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 1: she had it, whether it was a Monday Wednesday class 983 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: or Tuesday Thursday class. Waited sorry, and the rest was history. Uh. 984 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: So that's kind of what's going on with Joe with 985 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow whole side, No, I digress. Um, So who 986 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 1: do you have in this game? Ralph Arizona, Oregon? So, 987 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean the choice is obvious, right, But as long 988 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: as you have the memory of a goldfish, the choice 989 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: is obvious. Uh, what what happened last year? What was it? What? 990 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: What was it that happened last year that caused Oregon 991 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: to get blown out by Arizona coaching? It was no, no, 992 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Arroyo was horrendous calling plays in that game. He was, 993 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: and the Oregon defense didn't do him any favors either. 994 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: It was a It was a disaster on both sides 995 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 1: of the ball. They made Colins Schooler looked like he 996 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 1: was Ray Ray Lewis. They made um, you know, Khalil 997 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 1: Tate looked like he was Michael Vick. J J. Taylor 998 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: looked like he was Michael James. It was a train wreck. 999 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 1: And then the wide receivers, I mean, you thought it 1000 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: was you know, J. J. Stokes and and and Freddie 1001 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 1: Mitchell or farmer or farmer on the side it was. 1002 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 1: It was terrible, dude, Alright, So how do well, how 1003 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: do I chalk up that result? Do I treat it 1004 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 1: like an NBA playoff game where like one team wins 1005 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: by thirty because the other team knows that it's a 1006 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 1: long series. And in the second quarter, when it looked 1007 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 1: like the tide was turning, they sort of shut it 1008 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: down so they could focus on tomorrow. Or do I 1009 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: treat it like last year's results, last year's roster, this 1010 01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 1: year's roster pretty much the same, um, Um, You have 1011 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 1: to treat it like that, because Oregon got absolutely housed 1012 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:13,439 Speaker 1: by Washington State last year two absolutely demolished. Yeah and yeah, 1013 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I know that Braxton Burmeister was quarterbacking 1014 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 1: at the at the time. But but still it that 1015 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: should never happen. I mean they got no, no, no, no, 1016 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 1: he was not it was it was Herbert in that game. Yeah, 1017 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: not to no, it was Herbert because because uh, because 1018 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 1: that was that was his what the fun game? Where you? 1019 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: So here's here's what confused me, um, and what continues 1020 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 1: to confuse me is Kevin. Someone came out this week 1021 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: and he said, whoever has the best week of practice 1022 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 1: gets to start at quarterback. And I just like, I 1023 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 1: felt like I was gonna have a stroke. He's George. 1024 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 1: This quarterback situation is mad name. It's like he hates 1025 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 1: them both. Are you gonna play? I mean he needs 1026 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 1: to choose between Grant Nail and uh and Coliltate. You 1027 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 1: can't have both because if you play both you he 1028 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:20,639 Speaker 1: is angling to get himself fired with this. If if 1029 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 1: he were trying to get himself fired, this is exactly 1030 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: what what he would do. What's he doing is he 1031 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: sees Chad Morris and Willie Tagger get paid off to 1032 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: not work, and he's like, Hey, whoever has the best 1033 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: week of practice? Like, let's let's forget the fact that 1034 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: like that, like calil Tate had success against Oregon last year, 1035 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: Oregon is actually the team that figured Cliltate out, by 1036 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: the way, when he was in when he was in 1037 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 1: the middle of his sophomore year and he was tearing 1038 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 1: it up against everybody, it was Oregon that was able 1039 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,800 Speaker 1: to figure out the defensive scheme to limit his ability 1040 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 1: to do both. Um that that set the blueprint for 1041 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 1: everybody else. And then so Arizona went back last year 1042 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, you're gonna worry about Cliltate where 1043 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 1: We're just gonna run the ball down your throat all 1044 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: game longed and uh and Oregon was so worried about 1045 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 1: Cliltate that all the running backs got off. UM. This year, 1046 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,759 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different because Oregon has no idea 1047 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 1: what they're going to see at quarterback, like, are they 1048 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: going to basically face um Normozoni's version of the air 1049 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 1: raid or are we going to be back with with 1050 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 1: Khalil Tate again where it's sort of just a guessing 1051 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 1: game and a chess match. So maybe ultimately it's the 1052 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 1: smart thing to do, and it's the thing that gives 1053 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 1: Arizona the best chance to win is by by keeping 1054 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Oregon on their toes. Or maybe you end up and 1055 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 1: that God forbid this happens. Maybe you end up with 1056 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: a situation where at the end of the year, both 1057 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are like, yeah, by and you have Cliltate never 1058 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 1: repped University of Arizona ever again and anything he ever does, 1059 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 1: and Grant Ganell move on to some other school where 1060 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 1: he's going to be able to know what to expect. 1061 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: And while that might sound ridiculous, to remember that Kyle Allen, 1062 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for the Carolina Panthers, and Kyler Murray, 1063 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals, both simultaneously walked 1064 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 1: away from Kevinn someone instead of either one seizing the 1065 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 1: starting job at Texas A and m knowing the other 1066 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,640 Speaker 1: one was leaving, That's how bad that situation ended up 1067 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 1: being And I'm just afraid that we're moving towards maybe 1068 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: that same thing happening. Grant Gannel knows that he's the future, 1069 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 1: but this coaching staff doesn't seem to know that he's 1070 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 1: the future. Um, they should just play him, They should 1071 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 1: just play him. I just I don't understand why they 1072 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 1: won't just put him in the game. He is their future. 1073 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 1: They don't know how to use cliltate. They don't even 1074 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 1: like caliltate. Why are we still having common This is 1075 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 1: like I've never watched it, but uh, I see every 1076 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: week on Twitter, like when people are watching The Bachelorette, 1077 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 1: the producers keep that one character that everybody hates around 1078 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: just to keep people engage in the show. And and 1079 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 1: all of the normal people watching the Bachelorette are like, 1080 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,719 Speaker 1: why don't they get rid of this dude? He's a psycho? 1081 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Like why don't they get rid of him? It's obvious 1082 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: he's not gonna win. And it goes week after week 1083 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 1: after week until he's in the final three, and then 1084 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 1: finally it happens. Like that's how I feel about Arizona's 1085 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 1: treatment of clote Tate, Like you don't like him, you 1086 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 1: don't know how to use him. It's just causing problems. 1087 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: Why are you flirting with starting him? That's I don't know, 1088 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Start drinking, noll, lose the game, come 1089 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 1: back next year, try to win. Bro Kevin Sumlin is 1090 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 1: trying to get himself fired. May mean there's no other way. 1091 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 1: But I like Oregon obviously in his game, Oregon is 1092 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: playing at home to it. It's not like they're playing 1093 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 1: in Arizona, where the Arizona crowd is going to get 1094 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,719 Speaker 1: into it. There's no chance that there's a shocker on 1095 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,040 Speaker 1: on the road. Oregon's favored by twenty seven and a 1096 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 1: half points. They've they're probably gonna win by twenty seven 1097 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,680 Speaker 1: and I mean, I uh, they're probably gonna cover this too. 1098 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 1: Because Arizona's defense, Just just in case you, in case 1099 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 1: you were wondering how this chakes out, Arizona's defense gives 1100 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 1: up for well almost forty points a game, thirty eight 1101 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: points a game, they give up thirty eight, and they 1102 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 1: give up the most yards out of any defense. Their 1103 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 1: past defense is the worst in the pack twelve, the worst. 1104 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: The rushing defense is ninth in the Pack twelve. There 1105 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,639 Speaker 1: is no chance that they don't give up fifty points 1106 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: in this game. It's that is going to happen. If if, 1107 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: if they even though that they're coming off a by 1108 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 1: if Oregon doesn't score fifty points. Marcus Arroyo, he needs 1109 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: to he need he would need to go because this 1110 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:53,719 Speaker 1: team is prime employs. Yeah, they fired, Uh they're Marcelle Yates. 1111 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,320 Speaker 1: They were worse. Yeah, this is gonna be a disaster. 1112 01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: The last game of the week, though, USC at cal 1113 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 1: USC is favored by six and a half points, and 1114 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,720 Speaker 1: to me, they have chased Garber's back. This is a 1115 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 1: sucker bet to me, buddy, This is a sucker bet 1116 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: to me. I in terms of usc being being favorite, 1117 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,719 Speaker 1: cal is going to win this game. They proved last 1118 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: week against Washington State that they still had fighted them. 1119 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 1: They're still want to go to a bowl game. They're 1120 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,519 Speaker 1: gonna win this game, and this is the one that's 1121 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: going to make them Bowl eligible. And then they're going 1122 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 1: to UH and then they're gonna I think they're gonna 1123 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: lose the u c l A their last game of 1124 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: the season, but they're gonna end up. We're probably and 1125 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,439 Speaker 1: then they're gonna beat Stanford next week. They're gonna end 1126 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 1: up seven and five and including this game at with 1127 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 1: USC coming to town, Ralph. I'm with you. I just 1128 01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:03,759 Speaker 1: watched USC up close, Um, I've after watching them up close, 1129 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 1: I like Keaton Slovis always have. I look at that 1130 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 1: offensive line and I and I look at their receivers, 1131 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,599 Speaker 1: and this should be I don't know if this team 1132 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: is built for the air raid. I think that this 1133 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:23,760 Speaker 1: should be essentially like a pro style power running team 1134 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 1: that that uses Keaton Slovis's accuracy and the talented receiver 1135 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 1: to their advantage after establishing the run. I think that's 1136 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 1: what give them the most success. But I don't think 1137 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 1: that they fully understand what it is they are and 1138 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 1: if they go there out there and and try to 1139 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 1: do the hybrid air raid stuff against Cal, they're going 1140 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 1: to get embarrassed. I mean, Arizona State shut them down 1141 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: for three plus quarters after they had their trouble. So 1142 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you, I'm with um. I don't even 1143 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,040 Speaker 1: have much to say about this game. I just think 1144 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 1: that with with Chase Garber's back, UM, I think that 1145 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,600 Speaker 1: that's going to give a huge infusion of confidence to 1146 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:10,200 Speaker 1: a CAL team that was already playing well enough without him. 1147 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 1: And um, and as long as as long as CAL 1148 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 1: can established the run, I think that they're gonna probably 1149 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 1: control this game. This is a this is a really 1150 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,479 Speaker 1: really good defense that doesn't have the same amount of 1151 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,720 Speaker 1: trouble getting to the quarterback that an Arizona State does. 1152 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 1: And so I don't think you're gonna see Keaton Slovia's 1153 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 1: go crazy um early on in this game. And he's 1154 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,879 Speaker 1: a little bit banged up to It's a long season, 1155 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 1: um for a for a true freshman to have to 1156 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 1: go through like this. He missed some time UM against 1157 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,360 Speaker 1: Arizona State, he got knocked out for a series. So uh, 1158 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,679 Speaker 1: I do like I do like Cal in this game, 1159 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if USC wins, because again, 1160 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 1: talent lined up against talent. If the coaching staffs don't 1161 01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,760 Speaker 1: get in the way, then USC should be winning all 1162 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 1: of these games. Um. But it's not versus talent. Really 1163 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 1: does come down to coaching, and I trust Justin Wilcox 1164 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: in that entire cow staff a little bit more than 1165 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: what they have going on in USC. Okay, So my 1166 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:13,040 Speaker 1: other question to you is this is, how about the 1167 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: fact that USC runs the air raid. Now they run 1168 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,800 Speaker 1: the air raid and we saw what they did to 1169 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,200 Speaker 1: an air raid team last week in Washington State. They 1170 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 1: completely strangled them. I mean they just put a yeah, yeah, 1171 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 1: they just put them in a serious head headlock. And 1172 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 1: I think even though USC's receivers are way way way 1173 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:40,680 Speaker 1: better and their quarterbacks better too. Yeah, this this is 1174 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 1: going to be a low scoring affair. The under is 1175 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 1: forty eight and a half points, which is twenty it's 1176 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:54,559 Speaker 1: less than ul you tell what the hell? Yep, yep, 1177 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling you because because cal is not going to 1178 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 1: allow but a butt of points, they don't get hit 1179 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 1: over the head with with ninety five yard touchdowns like 1180 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 1: like Arizona State did with wh who's that uh st 1181 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:18,320 Speaker 1: st Brown and went and the and the bbs bumped 1182 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 1: into each other like the over the top in the 1183 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,000 Speaker 1: triple coverage yard touchdown. It was it was a thing 1184 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 1: of beauty. Yeah, he looked like Michael Vick split in 1185 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings uh defenders and they just ran into each 1186 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 1: other like the Bad News Bears or the three students. Yeah, yeah, sorry, 1187 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 1: is the question that you're asking me? Would they would 1188 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 1: would would they drop the hammer on Clay Hilton if 1189 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 1: if they got handled the way that Washington State got handled. 1190 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Is that what you're getting at, Dude, Look, if you 1191 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 1: as he loses this game, he's getting fired after the game. 1192 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think. I don't think that. 1193 01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,360 Speaker 1: I think that they should let him finish, Beau. As 1194 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 1: you pointed out when we started this podcast, they've got 1195 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 1: any regular schedule that has them getting a week off 1196 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, that would be the 1197 01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 1: right time to do it. Let this staff finish because 1198 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 1: they because they have u c l A next week exactly. Yeah, 1199 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 1: so just let him, let him finish, Like yeah, but 1200 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 1: if you look for Lane, duck him because didn't. Didn't 1201 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 1: Todd Graham coach the game after he was already fired. 1202 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 1: You've had other coaches coach games after they get fired. 1203 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,599 Speaker 1: So you could, you could break the news that you're 1204 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 1: getting rid of Clay Helton and the whole staff. They 1205 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,640 Speaker 1: on the condition that they get to stay for the 1206 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 1: u c l A U l A. They cannot, you, dude, 1207 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 1: if they lose to Cal you have to cut it 1208 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 1: off because they can't lose to u c l A 1209 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 1: with their head coach. They cannot. They can they can 1210 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 1: always have that caveat. Oh, we have fired Clay. Clay 1211 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,599 Speaker 1: heldon that's why, that's why we lost. Yeah, you can't 1212 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 1: lose to u c l A next next week. I 1213 01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,240 Speaker 1: don't know. Like Clay Holton is a good dude, and 1214 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 1: I think that he would do what Todd Graham did, 1215 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: which is know that he's gonna get fired, go out there, 1216 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 1: coach against UM University of Arizona, win the game, get 1217 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 1: fired immediately after the game, and then even agreed to 1218 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 1: stay on through the bowl so that they could transition 1219 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 1: into the her meed Words era. I think that I 1220 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 1: think that you could probably get Clay Hilton to agree 1221 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:34,040 Speaker 1: to something like that UM. And I think that maybe 1222 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 1: for college kids it would be the best thing if 1223 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 1: you could say like, hey, Clay, look we're moving in 1224 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 1: another direction. It didn't work out, but we want to 1225 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 1: give you the opportunity to stick around, not only to 1226 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 1: coach against u c l A. You know, let him 1227 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 1: know now if they lose to cal let him know 1228 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 1: and say like and and you know, depending on the bowl, 1229 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,720 Speaker 1: if we end up in Las Vegas and it's a 1230 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 1: pre Christmas Bowl, would you stay on, stay with the 1231 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 1: team and possibly end on a positive note which can 1232 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,640 Speaker 1: go a long way to sort of rehabilitating, rehabilitating a 1233 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 1: coach's image within that alumni base as well as you know, 1234 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 1: prospects for a potential future gig um. Of course that's 1235 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 1: not out work for Todd Graham. They got wrecked by 1236 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 1: North Carolina State and he hasn't worked since. But but 1237 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 1: I think that I think that it's better. It's it's 1238 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 1: better to maybe keep everybody together, or maybe there's somebody 1239 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,559 Speaker 1: on the staff that you do want to give a 1240 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 1: shot to to say, like, oh, how would you if 1241 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,240 Speaker 1: you are looking at an internal higher which I don't 1242 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,880 Speaker 1: think they should, you know, giving somebody the reins for 1243 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 1: just a week to see how that might look. But 1244 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody on this USC staff that 1245 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,679 Speaker 1: would even come within ten miles of being a candidate. 1246 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that the USCS coaching search is gonna be 1247 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 1: much harder than people believe that that. I mean, I 1248 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,960 Speaker 1: know that James Franklin may want to come out here, 1249 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 1: that there are some other big name guys, but I 1250 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,639 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be as smooth as people think 1251 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be, especially if they don't hire Erban Meyer. 1252 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 1: Uh you guys, thank you guys for listening to the 1253 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,920 Speaker 1: Pack twelve Apostles podcast. 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